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Dec. 17, 2025 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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Why Rob Reiner Matters

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It's showtime.
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Hey, everybody, Jason Burmes here.
And we're going to be talking about Rob Reiner in a lot of respects.
Now, obviously, out of the gates, I want to address the horrific, brutal murder of Reiner.
And really what bothered me most about it, first of all, I don't like seeing death.
We've discussed this before.
And with somebody like Rob Reiner, who over the years, not only has brought great joy via entertainment to myself, politically, prior to the Trump administration, in many regards, I would have aligned with the guy.
Very anti-war guy, represented a lot of the types of civil rights that I think are important to this day.
I mean, all in the family.
By the way, of course, Carl Reiner's son, you know, generational nepotistic Hollywood.
And for the most part, prior to TDS, couldn't be more with them, right?
The meathead days, I know a lot of the younger audience out there, of which I have little, may not be familiar with All in the Family, but I was really on that cusp, that tail end in the early 80s as a young child where seeing that and then seeing it in reruns, it very much reflected a lot of the things as a kid I was seeing and hearing around me, all over the place.
And, you know, that was whether I was, you know, in a family or a public place, or even, you know, when you start going to school, a lot of these issues that were tackled in All in the Family were ones, I mean, that now have kind of made a resurgence, right?
Traditional roles in family versus quote-unquote, what people would call progressive.
And, you know, just as a caveat before we really get going on Reiner and his legacy, you know, I had mentioned in a previous broadcast talking about, you know, women's rights.
And there seems to be this resurgent idea that women should not be able to vote.
Okay.
Let me lay down why Jason Burmes thinks that's the most ludicrous thing he has ever heard in his life.
Okay.
I don't know how you expect to have any type of an actual free society, free human society, if you are literally going to relegate half the human population to subservience, to having no say in their day-to-day.
That's nuts to me.
I mean, on a human level, we'll start there.
Okay.
Now, number two, if you're telling me that there are some women that shouldn't be able to vote, I can assuredly tell you there are some men that shouldn't be able to vote either.
Right?
Just because they don't align with your belief system doesn't mean you generalize this and then just take out, again, half the human population.
Just unbelievably ridiculous.
I'd also point out that obviously there are very politically astute and intelligent women that are in the arena and have been for a very, very long time.
A very long globally.
I mean, you know, I always go back to, you know, the idea of rule by bloodline because that's still really a thing in our society, right?
And you look at someone like Queen Elizabeth before Prince Charles, do you think she was any less politically astute or even ruthless than her son is right now?
What do you think she was just being led around?
It's just a massively losing argument.
And it should be, right?
I mean, I'll even go to my audience.
You know, there have been times via the quote-unquote analytics where my audience is like 35% women.
And now, is my male audience going to say that the women watching my show shouldn't be able to vote?
That's just nuts, right?
And look, as far as traditional values go, I'm a big believer in that in a lot of respects, okay?
But the idea of, you know, a woman should stay home and cook and clean and all this other stuff.
First of all, no.
I'm not saying, you know, I wouldn't want my wife or significant other to be home with the kids as much as possible.
But I like to cook.
I'm not big on the cleaning, but I certainly do the dishes if need be.
And we can share those responsibilities and roles.
And the other idea, especially in today's world, where there is a huge, hugely less reliance on physical strength, okay, via the workplace.
Like, you could argue, especially, you know, when you're settling across the land, when you're in the Industrial Revolution, et cetera, you know, certain gender roles in specific places where manual labor is going to be over the top, right?
And you want to get, and I, you know, the owner wants the most bang for the buck.
But once again, I mean, I can go to any arena outside of even geopolitical.
I've seen extremely talented graphic artists, editors, film directors.
We're going to be talking about Hollywood that are women.
And, you know, it's just an insane idea to say, men are it.
That's crazy town.
Oh, well, women are too emotional.
What?
I've been around some really emotional dudes.
And the other idea is, at this point, where they've confused an entire generation and beyond, a lot of people are on psychotropic drugs and medications.
Okay.
So that was a little side rant.
It is time to get into Reiner and all the cultural aspects of Reiner because I think that's really the important issue.
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There he is.
Meathead.
Now, when I look at this photo and I look at that wallpaper and I look at those outfits, this is very much what I remember, you know, if I can remember a lot from that five, six, seven-year-old range.
And a lot of it would be the grandparent aspect of it.
You look at the, you know, traditional parents, Archie Bunker, who obviously, you know, they portrayed as a lovable misogynist, bigot, rapist, or rapist.
I'm sorry, guys.
Didn't mean to say that.
Racist?
My goodness.
Way, way too much right there.
Okay.
And then the counterpart was Meathead, right?
And, you know, he's married to their daughter.
Archie's not in love with them.
And they're constantly yelling and screaming at each other.
But the social issues that he was bringing up there had a huge impact.
And I mentioned the grandparents thing is because I can see my grandpa in that same shirt, my grandmother in that same outfit.
She had that same hair, only it was all white, similar face.
Just A lot of like reflection of America at the time.
And I often say this, and I truly believe it to this day.
In the 80s, there was a lot of the misogyny, racism, specific gender role thing out there, hardcore.
And the racism stuff, especially when it bled into the early 90s, that's when it started to end for me.
Like, not end, you'd still see it here and there, but on the level that it used to be.
More and more generationally, you saw people getting beyond that.
And I think, obviously, popular culture, talented people like Eddie Murphy, for instance, in the 80s that were not, you know, not only wildly popular on SNL, but he was doing stand-up that was in movie theaters that tackled a lot of those racial issues and was able to have fun with it, right?
Like I'll never forget the Italian bit he did with this black man at a grocery store and candy bar.
If you haven't seen the bit, it's gold.
Okay.
So in that regard, with Rob Reiner and his early career, very impactful, something in my eyes to be commended.
Now let's look at his movies.
Okay.
We're going to go down the line.
And I haven't seen all of them.
Everybody's seen Spinal Tap getting a sequel right now.
Really gave birth to the parody mockumentary.
If there's one before 1984, let me know in the comments, guys.
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It still gets parodied to this day 40 plus years later.
That's how significant it is.
Stand by me.
The ultimate, the ultimate and ultimate kids' movie of the 80s to me, where, you know, in 1986, I was like seven years old.
I probably saw it in 87, 88.
Wasn't quite 10 yet.
And again, we talk about kind of like something that you can relate to early on.
Yes, it was going back in time a bit, but it would, you know, it was basically being told modern day by a character played by Richard Dreyfus, who they go to at the end.
But it was you and your buddies on this crazy journey, like getting away from your parents, that kind of fantasy.
And like, you know, all the stereotypes of like the modern day American kids were there.
Amazing movie.
Totally holds up to this day.
Will say this.
Tried to show it to my nieces when they were younger.
Didn't have the magic.
The Princess Bride has the magic to this day.
Again, one of the most quoted movies of all time to this day.
Andre the Giant.
I mean, if bringing that in, and especially during that era, 1987, WrestleMania 3, wrestling really taking off in pop culture.
It's hard, again, for young people to understand, but when you only had like, you know, 10 to 12 channels on the television and only so many movies coming out each year, Princess Bride was it.
And Fred Savage, Wonder Years, he's, you know, got the story being told to him.
Just chefs kissed, right?
When Harry met Sally, 1989, kind of tackled that progressive nature that people were getting upset about in the 80s, away from traditional roles, right?
Funny to this day.
Yeah, Billy Crystal.
I like Billy Crystal.
What is it?
Meg Ryan?
Yeah.
Again, very watchable, very reflective of the times.
Okay.
Misery.
He goes horror on this one.
And it is awesome.
I remember watching this, you know, as a kid.
And again, a big movie buff.
Misery is a great movie.
Again, holds up to this day.
Really made Kathy Bates' career.
Put her from like character actor to like superstardom at the time, where she was just getting every role in every movie in the 90s.
A few good men tackling on military corruption.
Something I think is a worthy cause to this day.
Right?
I mean, again, culturally significant to this day.
You can't handle the truth.
Still out there, Tom Cruise.
Come on.
Come on, guys.
Like, the impact this guy had on everybody, whether they realize it or not, he had a huge impact.
North was like his big bomb.
And I remember watching North and not hating it as much as everybody said, but certainly not something that's in the zeitgeist other than his first big failure after hit after hit after hit after hit.
Don't believe I ever watched the American president.
And maybe I did, Michael Douglas.
I think I probably did.
Probably one of his more forgettable ones for me.
I do remember Ghost of Mississippi.
Again, civil rights, murder case, 60s, culturally significant, something that stands up in my mind to this day.
Story of Us, no.
Alex and Emma, no.
Rumor has it, no.
The bucket list, 2007, watched that one.
I don't know if I'm quite old enough to even appreciate it to this day, but it is notable.
It was a fun movie.
It is notable that, you know, this was made in 2007 with Nicholson and Morgan Freeman.
And obviously, they probably shot it well before that.
So, like 20 years later, both those guys are still kicking.
Just point it out.
Flipped the magic bell of Isle, and so it goes.
Being Charlie and LBJ shock and all.
I'll be honest.
I haven't watched a lot of movies in the last 10 years.
Like, you saw where I did watch a ton.
I haven't seen any of those.
I don't know how much they've actually bled into popular culture.
But Shock and Awe, I mean, that goes into the Bush administration, Iraq, etc.
All stuff that I can get down with.
Now, here's the shift politically for me.
Okay.
I think along the way, he got caught up with the wrong people and went in the wrong direction.
Thought he was doing the right thing.
For instance, right here, the real story on Reiner is he was a Russian colluder ringnet leader.
I think he bought into the TDS immediately.
I think he'd already been around so much of the intelligence community and he thought were the good guys that were admitting the truth to him.
And here you see a dinner hosted by Rob Reiner at which both John Brennan and James Clapper spoke under off-the-record conditions in front of Welter of West Coast elites, including Barbara Streisand, Larry David, and the mayor of Los Angeles, Eric Gariotti.
I think, again, Larry David's a great guy, very funny.
I think he gets it politically wrong.
Okay.
Now, shout out to Mike Benz.
I just want to say Mike Benz is the man.
Every time I, first of all, I don't like watch Mike Benz all the time.
People send me Benz's stuff.
I'd seen some of the clips on Rogan.
I should probably watch the whole thing.
I did watch, I think, like the first half of it.
But he actually played a segment of my interview with, well, an interview with Peter Dale Scott, the man who coined the term deep state.
But it's in my film Invisible Empire, A New World Order Defined.
And it is the segment on Zbigniew Brzezinski, the Mujahedin, and really the Le Monde article where Brzezinski admits that he goaded Russia into that conflict.
Okay.
Benz is like the only mainline guy I've seen or semi-mainline guy that is talking about the Iran-Contra, Jeffrey Epstein connection.
He goes beyond all the stereotypes, man.
He's the dude.
So shout out, Mike.
You're the man.
So what he has here is that, and this is a 2023 tweet.
He didn't put this out, by the way, right after the murder of Reiner, which he condemned.
He thought was horrific, just like me.
But like I said, Leon Panetta, okay.
If you don't know Panetta, he is essentially, you know, a longtime spook that's held the most prestigious positions within the Intel apparatus and then led the way with this TDS, Johnny nonsense, you know, Russia disinfo Hunter Biden campaign.
Okay, so check this out.
This is a, first of all, there's a thread here, but this is an advisory board of people like James Clapper, Michael Hayden, you know, former director of the CIA, another terrible person, Michael Morrell, accounting director of the CIA, Panetta, here it is, Secretary of Defense, former director of the CIA and former White House chief of staff, okay?
And then Rob Reiner is part of this, actor activist.
So he got tied up with these people for sure for a very long time.
And then, you know, again, what's really sad is when he says something like this, because he's been so misled and those talking points that were out there that got this channel, right, demonetized for five and a half years and taken down many times, taken down many times.
The idea of misinformation and disinformation and words are violence, and we need to curb this.
And, you know, he called, in this clip, he talks about the media and he praises the mainstream media.
And then he says, thank God that he gets taken, that Alex Jones got taken off of Facebook promoting censorship.
So let's get into it.
That is the biggest problem I see with, because I think of it as two mainstream medias.
You have, you know, Washington Post, New York Times, all the networks except for Fox working very hard to get the truth out.
To be fair, there are some really genuinely, very good journalists at Fox who's some genuinely good journalists.
Yes, they're, you know, look at Ed Henry's interview with Scott.
Absolutely.
And, you know, we've got Shepard Smith.
I mean, there are good journalists there.
But this is the first time that you have mainstream media essentially divided into two halves so that you have, you know, Fox, Breitbart, Sinclair, and Alex Jones, which has now been taken off of Facebook, thank God, you know, trafficking in another narrative.
And so, you know, when shock and awe, these guys, the four journalists who got the truth out during the run-up to the war, they were facing headwinds of patriotism, the trauma of 9-11, but they weren't facing the headwinds that real journalists who are working very hard now to get the truth at, which is this cement block, a wall that they cannot penetrate with the truth.
And that's the scary part.
The scary part is the way that he framed that, because he's right on the shock and awe part, right?
On how hard it was to get out in these stories of the idea there were chemical weapons factories and weapons of mass destruction, et cetera.
I don't think he ever looked into 9-11 enough, right?
That's for sure.
That's a big fault.
But again, that's because he's been on the inside for so long.
That's literally what limited hangout is, and then that type of manipulation.
Okay.
So before we play this clip of Reiner talking about the Kirk murder, and again, saying the exact right thing about that murder.
You know, he is not one of the people that went out there and basically said disgusting things and things that upset me to this day.
That being said, we're not going to read it here.
You can read it and make of it what you want.
But the Trump post, unnecessary.
Unnecessary.
And this is one of those issues I have because obviously, on one end, Rob Reiner had super TDS, so much so that he, in my opinion, was manipulated into all these things.
Okay.
But, I mean, the guy got his throat slit with his wife in bed, like brutally murdered.
Okay.
Now, it wasn't a public murder like Kirk's, thank God, but allegedly his kid, just horrific, horrific.
And that's another thing people don't understand.
Like, a lot of these type of killings, you know, we never talk about this, are usually in family stuff.
Like, I read horror stories all the time.
Oh, I read something about, you know, some ex-husband killing his wife on a couch next to their four-year-old daughter while they were together.
Like, okay.
And with the drug addiction stuff, like, why are you weighing in at all if you're going to weigh in like that?
Not everything is about Donnie T.
And then you had some people that defended it.
Okay, whatever.
But I am glad that some people did call it out.
Okay.
Like this is John Kennedy.
And at the very least, he should have just said nothing.
That's bare minimum.
But with people like Massey and MTG, who, I mean, they're showing their true colors.
And MTG had a lot to say about it yesterday and a lot to say about why she was leaving Congress.
And I understand why.
I mean, she talked about the real death threats against her and her family.
And she's like, do I have to die for this?
Does my kid have to die for this?
That's a great question.
She's like, I've worked hard here.
And, you know, there are people that are, I mean, she called the Senate the Uniparty.
She said, forget about the presidency or any of that stuff.
You know, people want me to run for Senate.
She seems like she's out.
And that's, you know, sad for people like you and me that do need honest brokers in government that go beyond the left-right paradigm.
But right here, again, I want to give Reiner his due.
This is him discussing the Charlie Kirk murder.
And I think that he discussed this with class.
When you first heard about the murder of Charlie Kirk, what was your immediate gut reaction to it?
Well, horror.
Absolute horror.
And I unfortunately saw the video of it.
And it's beyond belief what happened to him.
And that should never happen to anybody.
I don't care what your political beliefs are.
That's not acceptable.
That's not a solution to solving problems.
And I felt like what his wife said at the service at the memorial they had was exactly right.
Totally, I believe, you know, I'm Jewish, but I believe in the teachings of Jesus, and I believe in doing to others, and I believe in forgiveness.
And what she said to me was beautiful and absolutely, you know, she forgave his assassin.
And I think that that is admirable.
So there you go.
I think he was very genuine there.
I think you look at the look on his face.
I think the fact obviously that he saw it with his own eyes, you know, like, again, I avoided it.
Good for him.
Good for him.
And I know that that is still something that is highly controversial via everybody at this point.
But we'll probably have to do a follow-up chat about that whole situation.
What I will say is this.
It seems after the meeting between Erica Kirk and Candace Owens, narratives have shifted a little bit.
I'm all for conversations.
I'm glad they talked.
I think that's actually a good thing.
I think it's a positive thing to engage those that you would disagree with.
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