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I think that was the guys in the jackets and the dark glasses trying to prevent us from talking, Jason Burmes.
I don't know that, but I do know that we were talking just a moment before you said, let's go live, and then there was a harsh shriek, the likes of 2001, a Space Odyssey and the monolith, and we were disconnected.
Yeah, I don't know what happened there.
My apologies.
That does happen sometimes in here, and I don't know why.
And yeah, but anyway, it's time to go deep in the weeds of Jason Burmese, brought to you by River Cities Reader.
And I got to admit, I look forward to this segment now every week just because we only do the one hour.
And so there's always a lot to cover.
There's always a lot in the press.
And there's just, it's just fun to get your take on stuff.
Of course, Jason's got a YouTube channel Making Sense of the Madness is his show.
Make sure you check that out.
Documentary Filmmaker.
Check out some of those films.
Amazing stuff.
A lot of research.
This guy sources everything, which I absolutely love.
And let's just get into it, man.
I saw earlier this week, Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, was asked about the possibility of alien or extraterrestrial life or if it's a possibility.
And she said, yes.
But I had thought, like last year, we had some Senate panel committee deals testifying and all that.
And I thought they had already said that something does exist.
And of course, last week we talked about Area 51 and the fact that it's not really an alien storage shed, but more like a nuclear testing site.
And it all kind of balls together in this one big, you know, NASA space outer space bubble.
And there's just so much around all of this.
You know, I don't know.
I've seen some stories on NASA too, and I'm sure you have too.
What's your take on what Gabbard said and how does that kind of flow into all the other things?
Well, just because you brought up Area 51 and we were talking about the quote-unquote nuclear testing and such, it's also a place for propulsion systems outside of nuclear energy, weapon systems, and I believe craft that we have not seen.
As we know, it has been documented that you had a ton of different craft from Oxcart to the Blackbird all developed there.
And one of the interesting things is that the Department of Energy, something that sounds extremely innocuous, is very involved in these type of, I would say, black projects.
So as far as Gabbard talking about extraterrestrial life and the possibility of it existing, that's kind of been the open talking point.
Even as the director of national intelligence, I would be shocked if she was even close to read in on not only the full UFO file, but the full file on what kind of defense systems that we are currently using and even military programs.
You know, Trump coined the term and I guess the agency, quote unquote, space force.
But the truth of the matter is the Air Force and NASA had that covered for some time.
And much of that is still classified to this day.
So when I see those headlines and I hear those kind of things, unfortunately, I think that it is a lot of distraction.
We've been kind of conditioned, whether we realize it or not, to look at the whole of the quote-unquote UFO phenomenon as not only aliens, but a certain type of alien that has been sold to us time and time again.
And much more recently, really starting with our parents' generation and kind of the new age movement that came with it, the idea that there are gods, ancient aliens, is one of the most ridiculous shows on television, Aaron.
The guy with the crazy hair.
I mean, it's not just a crazy hair guy.
Here's the thing.
And I know a lot of people don't get this.
That's TV.
Okay, now I remember late 90s, the History Channel did, instead of just that show, they did one small documentary called Ancient Aliens.
And Eric von Donnegan and his research was very big into it.
It was about an hour and 45 minutes.
And at the time, very interested.
I mean, for me, really UFOs and aliens and things like that pre-internet era is what really sparked my imagination and the idea that the government wasn't telling the truth, et cetera, et cetera, and led me down all these other rabbit holes that I would take much more seriously post-9-11.
And I came to the realization that as far as meat on the bone, after reading as many documents are out there, there's really no hard evidence of EBEs.
And this current UAP movement is absurd.
And I tell everybody to be extra skeptical of any kind of biological entity they would ever roll out.
Because at this point, one of the other things that has been occurring in black sites for an extremely long time is the creation of quote-unquote chimeras.
And chimeras are simply biological entities that are spliced together through genetic engineering and bioengineering.
Okay.
And when we talk about humanoid chimeras, anybody can type that in.
That's C-H-I-M-E-R-A.
And they'll find out that universities have been doing studies and experimentations openly with this technology now for decades, let alone what is underground.
So with that being said, I think there is a much greater possibility that the vast majority of the craft that we have seen over the years is man-made.
It deals with physics that the public is not privy to for many reasons, including the fact that you would create energy systems that were possibly cheaper and abundant.
Well, then that really disrupts the entire control system, not just the United States, but the entire world.
And it creates weapon systems and transportation systems, again, that the public is largely not aware of.
Now, what I found to be a much more interesting admission, if you will, and I'm not even going to call it an admission, an announcement, because I think there's a lot of hefty Johnny nonsense here, is that you had the transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, you know, ex-reality star from our generation, Aaron.
He was on the real world back in the day, I think one of the first few seasons.
And while he was at a conference basically talking about the modernization of drone technology and its consumer availability here in the United States about to explode because of deregulation.
So keep an eye out for that technology.
That's one that I certainly do updates on.
But Politico had put out a story, I think, a day before saying that they planned, and when I say they, the United States government is planning on putting nuclear reactors on the moon by 2030.
And it's going to be on the dark side of the moon.
And Pink Floyd influence, huh?
Well, I mean, when you're on the dark side of the moon, it's away from those prying eyes.
And for those that don't know, it's now been admitted that in many of those areas of the moon, there is water on the moon.
And even Duffy, talking about that, said that that is going to be essential for these nuclear reactors because, you know, although not only do you need water, I mean, that's really where you're creating the energy, which also, you know, really creates so many questions on how this would even be possible because you're supposedly in this very low gravitational atmosphere.
Nuclear power itself is fission, but the power is coming from the water that is turning into steam.
Okay.
Now, I want really people to think about this.
And he described what they would do is that essentially, first of all, he talked about the Artemis missions, which are supposedly going to be the manned missions back to the moon.
But for those that end up watching this after the fact, and I'm going to give you guys the link afterwards for the embed.
But here they talk about this plan.
This is four and a half years away, where they're going to send prefabbed parts for this to happen and essentially robots to do it because even these manned missions that are supposedly going to the moon, Aaron, they're planned for, I believe, not this year, but next year where they're going to stay for a whole six days.
The record according to the Apollo missions, which, again, I would remain extremely skeptical of, and I'll talk about that in a moment.
They only stayed for three hours.
Okay, so at a cliff, then there were several Apollo missions.
Remember, 13 is the only one that does not land.
Now, what they plan on doing next year, which is what they said they were going to do last year, Aaron, is that they were going to send a rocket with human beings, with four humans on it, around the moon.
Okay.
Now, this truly would be a great achievement.
And why do I say that?
Aaron, how high up is the ISS, the International Space Station?
Ballpark.
I mean, 254 miles.
Very close.
And you may have searched that and be right on the money.
But yes, it is in that 250-mile range in low Earth orbit.
Now, that is a manned space station.
Our astronauts and obviously others from around the world go up there and study.
Now, what is the record for the Russian cosmonauts?
Okay, because remember, the Russians were kicking our arnus in just about everything in the space program.
In fact, the Russians are really the reason that ARPA, the Advanced Research Project Agency, which becomes DARPA, is created via their Sputnik technology, which is the first satellite in low Earth orbit.
And that was above 300 miles, but of course, unmanned.
So how far have the Russians gone in space?
Man, I don't know.
Well, that's a good question.
They were the first ones to start messing with the weather back in the 30s.
It seemed like they were the first ones into space.
Quick side note, have you ever seen So I Married an Axe Murderer?
Big fan of that film with Michael Myers.
Yeah, so Michael Myers also plays his own dad, and then he's making fun of the little brother.
Sputnik is his head.
Whenever I hear Sputnik, that's what I think of is Mike Myers as an old guy making fun of the red-haired kid in that movie.
But anyway, good movie.
Very fun movie.
And move head now, and he's going to cry himself to sleep on his big pillow.
But that's a whole other topic.
I'm glad I found someone else that knows our lines from So I Married an Axe Murder.
We're here now.
Yes, we are there.
Getting back to the absurdity of this for a moment.
So the Russians have really only been as far as the ISS.
They haven't even been 300 miles.
Now, there was a Polaris Dawn launch, okay?
And this was last year, just less, or a little over a year ago, in September of 2024.
This is the furthest that humans and women ever have gone in space.
How far did they go?
And this was a SpaceX mission, but SpaceX is really just a rebranding of NASA and obviously doesn't do anything without NASA.
How far did they go?
I don't know.
If you give me a second, I can look it up, though.
I can tell you.
It is 870 miles.
So now, and this is the first time, again, women have ever been this far.
And also the first time that human beings since Apollo have reached the Van Allen radiation belts, although they did not go through the quote-unquote Van Allen radiation belts.
Now, remember I told you that they were supposed to send humans around the moon, 250,000 miles, and then 250,000 miles back.
Okay?
So we're only short about, you know, what would that be?
499,000 plus miles for the full trip.
You know who they did send, apparently, on a rocket ship around the moon?
And color me skeptical that we could even control rocket technology in that manner.
We sent Snoopy.
Yeah, we sent Snoopy in a custom.
And again, if you're watching this, folks, after the fact, he's in a custom NASA suit, and he was the zero gravity indicator that replaced the four human beings.
So they just sent a stuffed cartoon animal to the moon.
Look, here's the deal.
I actually do believe that we've been lied to in a lot of regards around space.
I do not think it is this uniform thing of a vacuum.
When you look at the differences in what we know about our atmosphere, our stratosphere, our ionosphere, there are so many vast differences.
And even what we publicly know on what they do experimentation-wise on the ISS has everything to do with microgravity and its effects on science.
So, number one, I do question whether or not the moon is actually 250,000 miles away.
I also think that there is ample evidence, and especially video evidence presented by an individual who goes by Crow 777.
And this guy essentially in the 90s bought this super high-powered telescope and started filming it through a DSLR camera.
And I mean, he's got a lot of footage, which appears to be craft moving around on the moon.
Moon Mysteries Revealed00:10:18
And again, I don't believe this is alien technology.
I think that this is something else.
There's been a lot of talk over the years of a secret space program, et cetera.
Gary McKinnon famously hacked into our defense department and NASA, and he found this document giving a list of quote-unquote off-world officers.
I don't necessarily know that that proves anything.
I think the possibilities are there.
But when I hear quote-unquote whistleblowers of the secret space program, I hear a lot of lunatic stuff.
I hear a lot of stuff that I don't think that can be proven.
I think is misinformation and disinformation.
And quite frankly, the vast majority of what NASA and others are doing in space is the weaponization of space.
Mars is a whole other issue.
But in regards to rocket technology taking humans to the moon, I really think that that is fairy tales.
Even what was it?
Are you saying you don't think the moon landing was real, like back in 1968?
Which when I think about it now, I'm like, man, that was so long ago, 60 years almost.
And did we really have the technology to go?
I didn't realize the moon was that far away.
And I didn't realize that the International Space Station was so close.
I thought it was farther away also.
I didn't realize 250 miles doesn't seem like a big deal.
I mean, that's like Des Moines.
You know, like, okay, but 250,000 miles, that's crazy.
By the way, we are deep in the weeds with Jason Burmese right now.
If you're just joining us, deep in discussion here about the moon stuff.
So Mike, who is my sometime co-host, when he's got time, he comes in and hangs out.
He listened last week, loves the segment we're doing.
But he's like, what about the moon landing?
Because he was alive when that happened or allegedly happened.
So are you saying right now you don't think the moon landing ever happened back in 1968?
I will say this.
I am extremely skeptical of not just the moon landing, but again, there are several.
And I am somebody that's literally spent hours and hours and hours with the Apollo footage, et cetera.
I think there is the possibility that humans have been to the moon.
I do not believe that rocket technology can get us there, especially human beings, and back.
Because again, remember, the rockets that we're putting to get there, first of all, they don't go up in a straight manner.
I want that to be extremely clear.
When they are taking these trips, they have to go around the Earth to exit low Earth orbit in like this slingshot pattern before they even start going up past low Earth orbit and into this arena literally of not tens of thousands, but hundreds of thousands of miles.
And then, you know, you can watch the relaunch from a remote camera of just the pod that is at the top of this rocket.
I think it is extremely dangerous.
Now, do I think those astronauts were in space?
Yep.
I absolutely think that they were in space.
And I do think there's a possibility, again, they're lying to us about how far away the moon is for whatever reason.
But really just based on how advanced Russia was at the time and how they were our neck and neck competitor and never, ever, ever got even close.
And over the years, there has been a merging, especially after the SDI project, which is the Strategic Defense Initiative or Star Wars program.
And, you know, you were talking about aliens, et cetera, and we were talking about nuclear power.
Well, you want to get into the realm of UFOs and nuclear power and propulsion systems.
There's no better place to get deep in the weeds than a guy named Ed Teller.
And Edward Teller was basically the head of SDI and the Star Wars program.
And on my show, I've gone to C-SPAN and gone into some of the archives where he talks about basically where SDI was a couple of years after it was announced.
Now, I know that a lot of people are familiar with Bob Lazar and his claims of being at a sub-base on Area 51.
I'll say this: Lazar, in some respects, does seem somewhat credible.
There are certainly questions about his character and literal criminal activity after the fact and holes in his story.
But one of the things that Lazar really got, in my opinion, was that, you know, when he was talking about these black sites and these programs and the reverse engineering aspects of it, he was really able to name how the compartmentalization worked and how he was only privy to so much.
Others were only privy to so much.
There's even video of Lazar out there at the site, you know, taking people to the site, filming quote-unquote UFOs in the desert and being chased down.
All of this starts with a story where Lazar meets Ed Teller and Teller brings him into that black program.
And there is plenty that's been written on Teller.
I imagine many years from now, 10, 20 years from now, at least if we start getting to more and more of the truth and don't fall for the psyops and are able to free up some of this technology to empower humanity, I think we're going to learn a lot about Teller and really that era where post-World War II, we embraced the model of the Manhattan Project.
And that model is one of compartmentalization and really, unfortunately, technological repression in that the public is not privy or able to utilize so much of this tech.
Just to give you an example again of NASA and what they're really up to.
So in 2019, NASA and Google achieved quantum supremacy together.
Now, why is that important?
I don't even know what that means, to be honest with you, Jason Berman.
Well, what it means is that, first of all, without NASA and DARPA, Google don't become what they are.
So Google really gets its start and is a military industrial complex company, make no mistake about it.
In the late 90s, through what's known as the National Library Initiative.
So DARPA and NASA get together and they realize this internet thing is about to go from the ARPANET, which was around in the 70s, which was digital communications, email, but only through a network of Defense Department, private contractors, academics, etc.
What are you talking about?
Al Gore invented the internet.
He said so himself.
Yes, it's a series of tubes.
So in reality, that's going on.
And so they're looking at these upstarts.
And Sergey Brin and Larry Page are Google.
So DARPA gives them the initial, what you could call an algorithm today for a search engine.
Okay.
And they win the competition.
There's a thank you letter from Larry Page and Sergey Brin to DARPA and ARPA.
As that happens, and they essentially say, hey, these are going to be our guys, Incutel comes in.
And Incutel is the investment arm of the Central Intelligence Agency.
All right.
So the next move is to bring a very like defense contractor CEO in.
That would be Eric Schmidt.
And through all this stuff, you get all sorts of Defense Department contracts.
And one of those contracts is with NASA.
So quantum computing, for those that don't know, is different than traditional computing in the sense that we basically have a language called binary code.
And we've had that language for some time.
It is a language of machines.
And it is a series of zeros and ones.
And each character in that must be a zero or a one.
And because of that, let's say you had a password word, right?
You might be able to find that password using brute force software that can go through every series of that password and after a certain time period get there.
With quantum computing, it can be a zero and a one at the same time.
And then it has something called entanglement where it can be a third thing, which is completely different, but linked to something that's not even close.
And I know that sounds super confusing.
Yeah, it does.
Yep.
But because of that, it is able to solve problems much quicker.
And it is essential in the new realm of artificial intelligence.
Now, if anybody knows what has been said, you know, by heads of state, the Defense Department, Intel communities, those that control the artificial intelligence in the future are going to control the world.
So right now, you literally have Google in a partnership with NASA in this techno-fascistic manner that nobody questions, trying to vie for total and complete AI supremacy.
And that's behind the scenes, but really behind the scenes in the sense it's right in front of your face.
There is no bigger outward technopoly, as I like to call them, than Google.
All right, let's talk about it, Aaron.
Google's Immortality Division00:08:54
Google is the number one search engine in the world.
Okay, and that's even where parts of it are banned.
People will VPN in.
Also, remember, Google created Dragonfly, which was the censored internet that is used in the vast majority of China.
So it's really a subsidiary of that anyway.
The second largest search engine in the world happens to be YouTube, which is owned by Google.
So they own the first two search engines.
Yeah, isn't that lovely?
And then the first largest video platform in the world is YouTube.
Now, they also happen to own the largest operating system platform in the world, which is Android.
And then, of course, they have a subsidiary of that that is known as Chrome OS that is embedded in our education system throughout the country as the vast majority of children learn on Chromebooks.
Does that not just, and it is a tool of total and complete narrative control, right?
Even YouTube itself, with its standards and practices, it openly vies to the World Health Organization and the United Nations and other global entities as their authoritative sources.
So you really have this company that's not a company.
It's just traded on the stock exchange.
And one of the other lovely things about Google is when you get into these type of techno arenas, they're always obsessed with immortality.
And that's a good thing because Google has an immortality division where it's not just about living forever.
It's about de-aging and reverse aging as well.
It's called calico with a C.
Okay.
Wow.
That took a sudden turn.
Well, I know Bezos is really into that, right?
He's spending a lot of money, or that's the word out there, is that he's spending a lot of money on this de-aging thing.
You know, I always thought immortality, in my mind, was short of being a vampire, you do enough during your actual life that you're never forgotten.
You know, we have people like that, certainly, you know, Shakespeare, Jesus, you know, people like that, Moses, that were even thousands of years later, we know who they were because they did big stuff while they were here.
That's being immortal in my mind, but you're talking about legit, hey, I'm alive forever.
That would be correct.
And if you really think about it, it's been a quest for human beings, especially human beings with complete hubris and power, to deny their mortality and to search for that immortality, whether it be stories of the fountain of youth or the tree of life.
Now they are trying to technologically bring this into fruition.
And even somebody like the Kush Kush, Jared Kushner, a couple years back when he was on television, he started talking about staying in good health because he believes that his generation will either be the first to live forever or the last ones to die.
But at the same time, as we push forward and, you know, GPT-5 is about to be put out and we're seeing more and more humanoid robots.
The real push is to acclimate the vast majority into this idea that we can merge with machines and even upload our consciousness while this other class of humans really try to experiment on us biologically and then try to really create that tree of life or fountain of youth and biologically live forever here.
Do you think, or where are they in that technology as far as pausing aging or even reversing aging?
I mean, does anyone even know what that looks like?
That's a really good question.
And here's the thing: I am really of the belief that I do not believe it's possible to biologically live forever.
I think that that is maybe possibly what some of these people have been promised in closed-door sessions from scientists or companies or governments or whatever.
You know, there are some people out there.
Alex Jones likes to talk about interdimensional demons and beings.
I don't know any of that.
I do know I have read their white papers and I have seen what they've done with the experimentation on other mammals.
And certainly when you look at the science regarding mice in particular, which share, I believe, about 94% of our genetics, they have been successful in not just making their lives longer, but also de-aging them.
Now, making them immortal?
No, that has not happened.
At least not in public.
However, we are now, you know, in the real world of gene editing, of CRISPR technology, of mRNA being a mainstream word and technology, despite the fact that, you know, you just had RFK Jr. literally put the kibosh on over 20 of those programs.
And those programs, by the way, if you watch his statement on that and his speech, those programs were with BARDA, which you guessed it.
That is the biological advanced research defense agency.
So that is the medical DARPA, okay?
So so many of those things are connected.
That's right.
So BARDA is really the ones that pushed the mRNA tech through.
And even Moderna, and we should pull that up for the audience here.
When they were going full force with the mRNA technology, it was through a $25 million grant and partnership with DARPA.
Let's pull that up.
And that's on their own site.
So here you go.
It's right there.
in the article, which really makes it disturbing for me that people don't get this.
Moderna Therapeutics to grant up to $25 million to develop messenger RNA therapeutics.
And this is October 2nd, 2013.
This is on their own website.
And it tells you right here that this is, of course, a gene therapy.
By the way, at this point and up to the point of the COVID-19 4 nightmare, Moderna has no products.
They have absolutely no products.
They're a zombie company with the Defense Department.
I need that to sink in for people.
So let's see if we can find gene therapy right in this.
Maybe not.
Certainly a therapist, right?
Oh, maybe not.
Well, let's read this one part right here so you can find out how it was part of a militarized program.
The grant is part of a DARPA program called Adept and Protect, Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics, Prophylactic Options to Environmental and Contagious Threat.
The goal is to develop platform technologies, and that's what that is.
It's a platform because it can be programmed and that it is digitally printed through bio-nanotech folks.
So to develop platform technologies that can be deployed safely and rapidly to provide the U.S. population with near immediate protection against emerging infectious diseases and engineered biological weapons, even in the cases when the pathogen or infection agent is unknown.
And then it says, for more information about DARPA, visit DARPA.mils.
We'll just tell you everything.
I mean, again, I hope that folks that are even listening to this go back and just check out the video.
I read it word for word.
Anybody can do what I just did.
And, you know, we talked about the Department of Energy.
They were heavily, heavily involved in not only this program, but every other one.
And when Peter Dazik was taken behind closed doors for his depositions, the Department of Energy was named in the paperwork of which they would be discussing during that deposition.
Wow.
Yeah.
Why They Push Flat Earth00:07:11
I feel like we're in like a weird circle maze where it all kind of circles back.
It all kind of circles back.
By the way, we're deep in the weeds of Jason Burmes right now.
We've kind of been all over the place.
And we're kind of deep in the secrets of space here within our government and all the things that kind of go with it.
And how do you, Jason Burbis, how do you keep track of all these organizations?
And like, the way your mind works is crazy.
And how you're able to remember all this stuff off the top of your head blows my mind.
Because I am like, I'm sorting through my head different DARPAs and ARPAs and like all the different stuff right now.
And like, you're just like, yep, here it is.
Here it is.
And I don't know.
That's crazy stuff.
I mean, I'm still thinking about the moon thing because you got me.
So, I mean, we allegedly went to the moon in 1968.
The International Space Station only being 250 miles away casts serious doubt, more doubt than I've ever had on the moon landing, considering it's 250,000 miles away.
Or, like you said, whether or not you think maybe they're lying about that, because the Apollo missions only took three days to reach the moon.
How the hell did they go 250,000 miles in three days in 1968?
Again, I question it.
And, you know, as far as the recall, I did pull out lines from So I Married an Axe Murderer, which I think came out in like 1995 or maybe four.
So I don't know.
I've always kind of been blessed with that, I guess.
Yeah.
The ability to memorize those type of things.
And plus, you know, just like, you know, I remember my favorite bands.
If I want to have an intellectual discussion with somebody about these topics, I damn well better know the ins and outs.
It's funny, I just got tapped.
I wasn't able to do it because they were literally filming tomorrow in Los Angeles.
And they contacted me, I think, Wednesday, and they didn't say whether or not they wanted to do it until yesterday afternoon.
But this show called Surrounded, and it was going to be quote-unquote 25 conspiracy theorists versus one mainstream journalist.
And here's even the problem with that because I went and I looked at the forum and I thought it was actually pretty interesting and good.
But whereas I'm sitting here and we're talking about real things and real numbers and things people can verify, out of the four topics, two of them were complete nonsense and one of them was a little bit of spin.
So, you know, this is a good example on how the mainstream will try to lump things together and stack the deck.
So the topic I would have gone on about was 9-11.
And essentially, you know, the journalist is going to take the line that 9-11 is a terrorist attack by Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, and there is no inside job.
There is no conspiracy.
I obviously have a lot to say and dispute on that.
I've made several films about it.
But then you have two that are totally ridiculous.
And one of them would be the flat earth conspiracy.
I hope there's not a whole bunch of ice wallers out there.
A lot of people will point to some of the things that I've pointed to and say, oh, well, this is all proof of a flat Earth.
I don't think it's proof of a flat Earth.
I think it's proof that NASA lies a lot.
In fact, when people often, you know, first of all, the way they sold NASA, especially to my generation post-Apollo, you know, remember there was Space Camp and you really wanted to be involved.
And there was this very long line of you'd want to be involved in this agency.
It was used as a recruiting tool for black ops.
So when you read Andy Jacobson's book, Area 51, a lot of those people that end up working on those sites and those projects thought they were going to be working for NASA.
So although they do, you know, end up intertwining a bunch, NASA's kind of a front for that agency.
So they want to talk flat Earth.
They want to, you know, muddy the waters there.
They want lunatics there.
They want people talking about the firmament, blah, blah, blah.
Second one is the QA nonsense, the Q movement.
Now, I've told people before, I've actually dug into that.
It looks to me like a few internet trolls in the very beginning met at DEF CON, Gentlemen by the name of quote-unquote Microchip Defango, aka Emmanuel Chavez and dream catcher James Brower, and that there are no superheroes and white hats behind the scenes, and that coded messages on the internet aren't giving you some inside info.
I know that's tough for people to deal with, but so they stack the deck that half the show is going to be ridiculous.
And then the third one that they put in there was the Hunter Biden laptop.
And although there is a lot of meat on the bone of Hunter Biden and the corruption with him and his drug use and the prostitutions and even maybe some inappropriate relationships with family members, I mean, for God's sakes, he had his father in his phone and his contact information as Pedo Peter, everybody.
You can't make that up.
You brought that up last week, too.
That's a little eyebrow raise on that one for sure.
Yeah, and as it should be.
But they wanted to stick to the crimes of Joe Biden on that laptop.
And really, the crimes of Joe Biden on that laptop.
There are some communications where he is referred to as the big guy, et cetera.
But really, when you talk about the criminal activity and the damning communications between Joe Biden, Burisma, and Hunter, they would come from the WikiLeaks 2016 DNC dumps.
That's really where it was.
So even that one was rigged in a way.
And, you know, I might have gotten five minutes in there.
You know, at first, they wanted me to pay my way, and then there was somewhat of a stipend and all this other stuff.
I just, I couldn't do it for maybe five minutes against a mystery mainstream journalist.
I told the Marin that I would like to be the person in the middle.
I'd like to be the conspiracy theorist.
I got plenty of topics, and I would like to take on 25 mainstream journalists.
I think I go 25-0.
I'd put my money on you, Jason Burmes, for sure.
Thanks.
We are deep in the weeds with Jason Burmese and kind of an array of topics today.
We're a little bit all over the place, but I'm yeah, it's funny the way they put these programs together.
And, you know, like you said, a lot of things that we see, a lot of things that are put out there are just distraction, you know, for what's really going on behind the curtain.
Musk's Space Conjectures00:11:50
And I don't know.
Again, my head is, I'm still spinning on the moon.
I didn't, you know, the moon being 250,000 miles away just blows my mind.
I mean, think about Mars.
How far away is Mars?
I mean, it varies.
And you have to do, I think there's a certain time that they would have to do it.
And then they say we could do it in like what should we call it?
We could do it in six months.
But I'm, again, extremely skeptical altogether.
But let's see.
Length away from planet.
Let's see.
Away from Earth.
Well, 140 million miles.
It's 33.9 million miles to 250 million miles.
See how that works?
Yes, depending on what the orbit is.
So Musk thinks he's going to send people to Mars and it's 33 million miles away on the short side.
It's not real, folks.
Again, unless there are different types of propulsion technologies or they are lying about the length or they have literally figured out quote-unquote warp speed from Star Wars or Beam Me Up Scotty from Star Trek.
That makes no sense.
You know, I did a big expose on it and I actually show individuals at the heart of NASA admitting that none of that is real.
But at the same time, you know, NASA claims, as far as that is away, that back in the 70s, you know, they were able to send satellites out there and take these pictures and send them back.
And look, I'm not saying they didn't do that.
In fact, I know that they build these satellites.
I've watched them build it.
I've watched them send them up.
But it really does speak to the question because, again, you're 33 million miles out in space.
How do you have the maintenance on that?
How are you even communicating with that for any type of information or control systems?
I think that we have to remain pretty skeptical on all of it.
And, you know, from the photographs on Mars, where we supposedly had what, the face image and all that controversy, which again sold us on the idea of possible aliens and life on Mars, etc.
I say remain skeptical of all of it.
Think about how hard it is to prove things that we can actually see with our own eyes, touch with our own hands, hear with our own ears, right?
We can't do any of that with Mars and the moon, Aaron.
I agree.
And again, I love math, or I don't love math, but I love when there's questions, there's controversy, whether it's just a political issue or it's something like this, you get back to the math.
So for the Apollo missions in 1968, they would have had to travel 3,500 miles an hour to make it to the moon in three days.
Yeah.
And that's, I don't even know if people can go that fast.
You know what I mean?
Like, that just seems.
But I don't know.
I still, again, didn't realize the moon was that far away.
I've just never really stopped to think about this.
And because it takes them 15 hours to get to the International Space Station, and it's only 250 miles away.
Yep.
How's that?
You know what I mean?
And maybe you're taking like a, you take the slow rocket when you go up to the International Space Station, I suppose, or whatever.
But that's, you know, 15 hours, 250 miles, and then you're going to get 250,000 miles in 72 hours.
And I want to remind people that human beings in space, really biological life as we know it and space, they don't mix very well.
If you look at how banged up these astronauts and cosmonauts are after any kind of extended stay, again, only 250 miles up in the air on the ISS, it physically wears them down to the point where then when they do re-enter, the majority of them are taken away on a stretcher.
Okay?
Don Pettis.
Yeah, I've seen that.
Yeah, they kind of can't even walk.
Yeah, I mean, they're in rehab for months.
It is so disorientating.
So, once again, I ask the question: why we think it wouldn't be even more disorientating so much farther away.
Unfortunately, the public, again, has been extremely naive, mostly because technologically, many people can't grasp just the basics of this thing.
But at the same time, we've been sold on this.
I mean, it's not just, you know, I said Star Wars and Star Trek.
Go back to the Disney era of the wonderful world of Disney.
And when you would watch somebody like, I don't know, Werner von Braun, ex-Nazi and head of NASA, brought into the United States during paperclip, showing you space stations and rockets.
And remember, Von Braun really is the godfather of that rocket technology in the sense that even his Saturn V, which we were using in the 60s, is supposedly still the most powerful rocket we got.
Is that true?
That's what they tell us.
I don't know.
I'm kind of, I've got like that emoji guy with a hole outside of his head right now.
So it feels like, you know, based on what we've been discussing, looking at some of this math, really stopping to think about this for a minute, it sure feels like, you know, NASA, you're doing some space stuff, but more of a front for all the other stuff they got going on.
1,000%.
And I'll give you a great example about how they do it.
I had Greg Autry of NASA on my program probably a little bit over a year ago now.
And when I had Autry on the program, I told him his book was called Red Moon Rising, because, again, the big talking point was not only is China going to beat us to the moon, and that's why we've got to beat them there and put the nuclear sites on the moon, is they're going to beat us to China.
And he actually wrote that book with Peter Navarro of the Trump administration, the one that actually went to prison.
So we start talking.
I go, listen, I got to be honest with you.
I'm not really interested in this whole Mars mission.
I don't really know how plausible it is and where it would be in the future.
I go, I really want to talk about the technologies, the ISS, the stuff that you're doing on there, including 3D organ printing, organoid creation.
And, you know, they do quantum computing up there.
They build hydrogels, all sorts of stuff.
So I said, you know, I want to talk more about maybe some of the classified stuff.
And he goes, oh, we don't do classified programs with NASA.
Okay.
So about five minutes later, I start discussing Elon Musk and SpaceX.
And one of the things that SpaceX is doing, other than putting up Starlink satellites, which are really the commercial version of that Star Wars or SDI program, the Defense Department has a total backdoor into every Starlink satellite, make no mistake about it.
And the highest concentration of the receiver dishes are in Ukraine because it's not only the Ukraine military's communication systems, but they directly hook into the ghost and sidewinder drones that they're a part of.
So you have that, but then you also have the DARPA program called Blackjack.
Okay.
And DARPA's Blackjack, they've toned it down because people started talking about it.
But that's their classified system.
So Musk is putting that up there.
And we'll put that right in the background for people to see here.
It's on DARPA's page as well, the Blackjack program.
It's one of the artificial skins, as they call it, that they put it around the planet.
But Musk has been tapped now to build the next spy satellite network.
So I brought that up.
And I go, hey, well, what about the reports that Musk is building the next spy satellite program?
And Greg Autry goes, well, I can't talk about classified programs.
Well, he didn't have any classified programs, though.
But he can't talk about that classified program.
Okay.
My goodness.
Put them on the spot and they squirm.
He was actually a really nice guy, and he was impressed with what I knew and thanked me at the end because, again, I think that he probably does get sick and tired of saying the same thing over and over and over again, knowing so much of it is just public relations talking points and really trying to shape the narrative rather than talk about the reality of the technologies they're currently working with.
And really, that's what I try to focus on.
Hydrogel technology may be the future of medicine.
RFK Jr. Jester, although he was condemning the mRNA technology, was literally talking about a vaccine that is now being worked on that is supposedly going to be a cure-all for all viruses.
And you can't make that up.
The entire phylum of viruses, he said, color me skeptical.
Okay, I think that we have to remain skeptical on all this technology, but at the same time, we have to acknowledge its existence and really try to push for that tech to be utilized to empower and not enslave technology or enslave humanity, which unfortunately, if you really look at it, the vast majority has been utilized for.
A cure-all, huh?
That sounds, yeah.
You can color me skeptical too, Jason Burmes.
I'm not getting in line for that.
You know, give it to some other guy first because I can't even imagine.
How would that even be possible scientifically?
It's a great question, but again, with bio-nanotech, and you remember, we just discussed the idea of de-aging, of genetic modification.
Even when I talk about NASA, one of the things that has been openly talked about in the realm of NASA with Dennis Bushnell, who is the ex-chief scientist there, and he was around literally prior to Apollo, during the Gemini phase of their space exploration at NASA.
He talks about genomic engineering, and he talks about possibly doing that to the human species in which we would create ourselves more adaptive to whatever we do to the earth.
So if they're planning on just literally Dr. Moreauing our entire species, I don't know whether or not it's going to be possible.
I do believe that they will try.
Okay.
And who knows?
You know, I want to believe in fairy tales and unicorns sometimes too.
But if you truly had that type of technology that would be able to combat all viruses altogether, you would probably be able to extend life.
Kubrick's Odyssey and Moon Landings00:02:59
And quite frankly, that just does not seem to be the goal of those in charge and those in the predator class, Aaron.
That predator class, that's something you've brought up every show so far here.
We've been deep in the weeds of Jason Burmese here for the last hour.
Folks who do this every Friday from 9 to 10 brought to you my River Cities Reader.
And yeah, I mean, I've got a lot to think about and talk about right now.
You know what I mean?
Like in my head, my head just kind of swirly gating around like a washing machine, just trying to, I don't know.
This happened last week, too, where I was just like, wow.
Yeah.
Let me say this, Aaron.
I wonder if there's some fun stuff.
Fun stuff on that.
Okay.
We'll give you some fun stuff and some fun stuff for the viewers out there to watch.
Now, I want to make sure everybody knows.
Okay.
Everybody knows I'm not necessarily endorsing everything in these documentaries or films.
But if you want to watch A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, Bart Sobrell's classic on the moon landing and why he believes that they are not genuine and hoaxed.
He also has Astronauts Gone Wild, where he went around and tried to find astronauts who would swear on the Bible that they had went to the moon.
That's the one where Buzz Aldrin punches him in the face.
And then for those that buy into the conspiracy theory or maybe are interested in the conspiracy theory that it was actually Stanley Kubrick that faked the Apollo missions, there are two documentaries on that, one of which is called Kubrick's Odyssey, which really is about an hour long and takes you through the theory that not only that he faked the moon landing, but that the confession is actually hidden in the shining.
And then there's room 237, which, although it's not fully about the Kubrick moon landing part, it gets into that aspect of it.
Wow.
Well, I got to check that out now, too.
You know what?
Before I even do that, I do want to say this.
There's also a mockumentary out there in the late 90s that is shot just like a documentary.
And I believe it has Donald Rumsfeld in it and even Henry Kissinger before he died, although Kissinger lasted for a long time after that.
And in that documentary, or mockumentary rather, it's them admitting that they faked the moon landing because they were part of that Nixon administration while it was going on.
And then you realize it's a scripted gag when the last shot is Stanley Kubrick's license on the surface of the moon, but also worth a watch for the fun of it.
Outstanding.
Defying Gravity: Moon Landing Debates00:00:58
I got some more homework to do now.
And, well, many thanks to you, Jason Burmes.
We're deep in the weeds with Jason Burmese. Brown to be my River Cities Reader.
Again, we're doing this every Friday.
And I definitely have some stronger opinions about the moon landing and all the things.
And I definitely want to get into, you know, well, maybe next week, one of the things I wonder about with some of the technology, et cetera, is China and what they're doing inside of some secret mountain or whatever they might be doing.
Because I feel like they're more radical than we are, but maybe that's because that's what I've been fed by the media.
I don't know.
But, well, we'll scratch the surface on lots more great topics next Friday, Jason.
Thanks so much.
Now, where can folks go to watch this video?
Because you've got a video version of you.
Yeah, you can go to my YouTube, which, if you just type in Jason Burmese, B-E-R-M-A-S, but maybe you guys are going to be able to embed it.
I will send you guys the YouTube link and put it.
I know you have the audio version on the show, but you can also find this on X.