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July 26, 2025 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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Is The Golden Dome Just A Star Wars Update?
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Hey, everybody, Jason Burmes here.
And I think it's long overdue that we did a reality check on this idea of the militarization of space and Trump's quote-unquote announcement of a golden dome, of a golden dome.
And really, as soon as I heard about this golden dome, immediately, immediately, I said to myself, this is a simple rebranding, if you will, of the Star Wars program literally over 40 years ago.
Now, was Star Wars operational 40 years ago when it was announced in, I believe it was 1982?
No.
At least I don't believe so.
I do believe it was a real program.
I believe space is real.
And on top of that, not only do we have the documentation of these weapon systems, but we've got both them admitting in public to the general success of this program in a rather short period of time, right?
To also out of the other side of their mouth saying it's not operational and it didn't work.
Now, I often discuss, and we're really not going to discuss too much of Robert Bowman, but Robert Bowman, someone very, very high up in the U.S. military, the Air Force, et cetera.
He, during his 9-11 truth period, when he was one of the few men to question 9-11 at that capacity, good for him, by the way.
We needed more of him.
Had there been 100 more Robert Bowmans, maybe we wouldn't be in the spot we're in right now, where we truly are living in this world of perpetual warfare where it seems like the executive, even if they want to get out of these wars, they can't.
And it's very difficult for me when Trump talks about getting us out of these conflicts and wars because he says the right things, but what is the reality behind it, number one?
And then number two, what are the results going to be?
And we're going to discuss some of the things he has been saying out in the Middle East.
He's been talking about these weapons that nobody knows about.
I mean, again, in one respect, he's not lying to you.
We have plenty of classified weapons.
In fact, we're going to show you this clip of Reagan when he announces, I think in 83, this is 83, what exactly they're trying to do with this program, right?
He gives a big fallacy there.
And I want to jump on that as well.
Because you always have to be skeptical.
Who we are going to focus on here is Edward Teller, who if you're looking at the thumbnail, you know that Ed Teller is one of those guys that is almost mythological, especially in regards to the UFO community.
Okay.
And, you know, Lazar talked about Teller.
There's plenty of documentation that Teller, of course, not only was a mouthpiece for this, but was at the very, very heights, very heights of, I would say, classified technologies, black programs.
I mean, Teller to me seems like one of those scientific elites that is an overseer.
And of course, he is also the quote-unquote godfather of the H-bomb.
But like Reagan, for instance, when we play this short clip, says that we haven't developed any long-range bombers since the B-52.
No.
No, we were working on that stealth aircraft that we deployed during the Gulf War for some time.
Now, the question is, was Reagan privy to that?
I don't know.
You know, Reagan didn't really seem to be running the country or that sector of the military-industrial complex.
He seemed compromised out of the gates.
And George H.W. Bush would have been the one that you really were looking at during that.
So here's the deal.
We got a lot to go over.
This is going to be a watch-along, mostly, mostly with Edward Teller in 1990, where we kind of talk about the time period.
And, you know, Teller's a big anti-communist.
I don't think that's a front.
I think even the most brilliant of men have their, I'd say, blindsides, right?
They don't really see the bigger picture.
I don't know that Teller saw himself as a globalist.
He certainly discusses collectivism in this speech from 1990.
But what he does that I think is important is that he does confirm in 1990 that for the most part, this program of the Strategic Defense Initiative, aka Star Wars, aka the weaponization of space, this defense system that Trump is now talking about again for some reason under new technology.
But you wonder, again, not only what we've had in the past, how much maintenance goes into that and where we are right now, what he's talking about for the future.
Okay, so there's just so much to go over here.
So much to go over.
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Like I said, we're going to do it Edward Teller style.
This is 1957.
Cover of Time magazine.
Looks a lot different in the footage that we're going to show you.
But again, Teller is a very intelligent guy.
And, you know, to me, I think he's intricate in all this.
Just putting that out there.
All right.
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Let's go.
What do we got here?
Trump's Golden Dome.
Okay.
New era of weapons in space.
Look, when Reagan talks, and you're going to see it in a moment, he's talking about ICBMs, but we already have certain types of laser and electromagnetic technology.
Now, what exactly they utilize with the Strategic Defense Initiative, we know directed energy weapons exist, rods of God, offensive weapons that are non-nuclear, that are launched from space, that aren't even necessarily a warhead, you know, just a literal rod that becomes so kinetic, it does a multitude of damage.
Okay.
So Trump recently just, you know, talked about, you know, these secret weapons, weapons people can't imagine.
And when he was out in the UAE and talking to military personnel, I noticed the media didn't pick up on it.
That's why we didn't really get a headline from there.
But I watched some of those speeches.
Although he's very friendly with the Middle East, he talked about the military again and again and again.
And he's like, well, we don't want to use it, but it's the greatest military in the world.
He again and again and again went with his military prowess.
And don't think for one minute that isn't one of the main reasons we are at the top of the heap is that military power that has been manifested in the United States of America.
So we're going to go to C-SPAN.
This is the 25th anniversary.
I think this is in May of 2008, somewhere in there.
25th anniversary of the SDI.
And we're really not going to spend that much time on this video because, quite frankly, what he says in the very beginning lets you know that, yes, this thing has been successful.
But we'll get there.
So let's check it out right here, C-SPAN style.
To have a discussion on the 25th anniversary of the Strategic Defense Initiative with Lieutenant General Henry Obering.
But first, we want to show you a clip from President Reagan's speech introducing the concept of Star Wars.
This is a speech he gave back in 1983.
The United States introduced its last new intercontinental ballistic missile, the Minuteman III, in 1969.
And we're now dismantling our even older Titan missiles.
But what has the Soviet Union done in these intervening years?
Well, since 1969, the Soviet Union has built five new classes of ICBMs and upgraded these eight times.
As a result, their missiles are much more powerful and accurate than they were several years ago.
And they continue to develop more, while ours are increasingly obsolete.
The same thing has happened in other areas.
Over the same period, the Soviet Union built four new classes of submarine-launched ballistic missiles and over 60 new missile submarines.
We built two new types of submarine missiles and actually withdrew 10 submarines from strategic missions.
The Soviet Union built over 200 new backfire bombers, and their brand new blackjack bomber is now under development.
We haven't built a new long-range bomber since our B-52s were deployed about a quarter of a century ago, and we've already retired several hundred of those because of old age.
Indeed, despite what many people think, our strategic forces only cost about 15% of the defense budget.
Let's just stop it right there for a second.
Again, he just said that we don't have a long-range bomber and haven't developed one since the B-52.
That's bullsnap.
Okay?
Now, again, there's levels of classification, but that lets you know that everything here is tongue-in-cheek.
But when we are talking about technology and warfare, what do we really see most of the time?
We see that they are, in fact, more advanced and they are holding back.
And again, that's what Trump just alluded to.
We are joined now by Lieutenant General Henry Obering, the director of the Missile Defense Agency.
Sir, welcome to the program.
Thank you very much.
Tell us what was President Reagan's intent with the Strategic Defense Initiative, and has that intent been met over the last 25 years?
Well, I believe his intent was to stop and take a look at this idea of mutually assured destruction and whether or not that really made sense.
And of course, I think he had the vision to see that as we moved in the future, that concept may not hold, because you may run into an adversary or even non-state organizations which are not deterrable.
And therefore, this equation of mutual assured destruction would not hold.
And so I think it was his intent was to try to build defenses that would basically make the nuclear missiles obsolete.
And that was his intent.
Now, what has happened is we've made incredible progress in these last 25 years.
And the investments that were made beginning in the 80s up to about the mid-90s and then the ensuing transition of those into real capabilities has begun to allow us to achieve President Reagan's initial vision.
So right there, okay, this is in 2008, 2008, 17 years ago, closer to 20 years ago.
He's saying by the mid-90s, okay, they were able to achieve that initial vision of space weapons to knock out nukes on a mass scale.
On a mass scale, because what we're going to do now is we're going to go to Teller, okay, and this is from 1990.
And this tracks, again, Teller here in this conversation, again, we're going to do a watch-along for a while.
We're probably not going to do the whole thing.
But Teller tells you, this is 1990, okay, so now they've had less than a decade in this, that on a small-scale attack, it works to perfection.
Now, I think he mentions at the time there's something like 5,000 of these bad boys in the supposed hands of the enemy.
He basically says certain parts of the United States would still be able to withstand that type of attack.
This is 1990.
Okay?
So when Trump's talking about all this, I think that there's just a push for a bigger update or replacement.
I will say this, I can't imagine what the wear and tear or the lifespan of these things are in space.
I doubt they are quote unquote forever.
You know, the ISS is one of those things that right now we're seeing, even with the maintenance, you know, not going to make it.
And this is the stuff that they're showing you.
And this is a reason that we're going to show you Teller himself in his own words.
Because for instance, you know, there's the guy in 2008 saying, all the way through the mid-90s, you know, we've now achieved, you know, everything that, you know, we've made that vision a reality.
Teller is a little more apprehensive here, but this is 18 years before this guy talks.
All right.
But we have to acknowledge the fact that we should know more about this.
I understand levels of classification.
And we also have to acknowledge that Teller was a guy that when we're talking about weapon systems and technologies and propulsion, there probably is not a bigger name.
So let's get into it.
This is, I'm going to let this guy actually introduce Teller in 1990.
You know, one of the other things I want to talk about quickly is the advancement in technology.
You remember Giordano, if you just watched the Demiurge video, he talked about how from concept to when, I guess the Defense Department began working in the bio-nano space, concept to reality was like 35 years.
Okay, let's say that that was the strategic defense initiative.
I don't think it took 35 years, probably a lot less than that, probably more along that 15 to 25 year length.
He said that has now been compressed, and that was back in 2011.
It's three years after what you just saw there, to a five-year period.
Because technologies scale upward at a very odd pace.
It's not like do, do, do, do, do, do.
No, woo!
Woo!
Kurzweil's a smart guy.
So let's get into it.
Here's Edward Teller talking about the Strategic Defense Initiative.
For me to introduce again to you Dr. Edward Teller.
As you know, he's Director Emeritus of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and a senior research fellow at the Hoover Institution.
Dr. Teller is best known for his work on the development of nuclear explosives.
He's a noted physicist with more than 100 technical publications, several books, a number of patents, numerous articles in the popular media.
He's currently a member of the General Advisory Committee of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission, of the United States Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, and he serves on the Board of Defense Intelligence School and is chairman of the Nuclear Reactor Safeguard Committee.
In 1982, he was appointed to the White House Science Council.
It's a tremendous honor to introduce to you this great American, this man that has literally changed the defense strategies of the world in the last 40 years.
And at this particular moment, it's most timely that he's with us because as the cry throughout Congress and across the country is, where's the peace dividend?
And is SDI outmoded?
Is defense outmoded?
Is the Cold War over?
And are we now in the age of the cuddly communists?
Is Gorbachev going to receive the Mother Teresa Political Science Award?
I mean, you've got to understand the time period.
This is 1990.
This is the tail end, the tail end of guys like this that fought World War II, that saw the communists as the total enemy, that not only had looked at Russia but been through Vietnam.
I mean, they went through hardcore anti-Russia stuff.
So they're not clued in that Gorbachev is there to push globalism.
And he really did.
Like, that's what he was.
You know, that Putin decided.
You know, I'm not here to get into all Russian politics, but Putin is a guy that was there during the Cold War and saw what happened via Reagan and Gorbachev up close.
You can actually see him in one of those pictures, like disguised as a journalist.
You know, he's Secret Service or KGB at the time.
And Gorbachev did a lot to destabilize, quote-unquote, Mother Russia.
And whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing, I'm against collectivism.
Who knows how it would have moved.
They tried to bring in Yelsin.
He was a joke.
And really that Putin movement is kind of born out of this.
And now Russia has become the enemy again, all these years later.
But that really didn't happen again until the Trump era.
Let's continue.
Shall we now look to other options in this country?
I think there could be no more appropriate speaker today on this issue than Dr. Edward Taylor.
Dr. Taylor.
Thank you very much, Ambassador.
I am afraid that in introducing me, you exaggerated here and there.
I will not go into that and will try not to exaggerate myself.
I talked here two years ago about SDI.
SDI is now in a state that, in comparison with what it was yesterday, or two years ago, really, is hardly recognizable.
Particularly to you.
At that time, I told you and could not prove it that SDI is feasible.
Today it is obviously feasible.
When I talked to you two years ago, components of the objects that we want to deploy, a component may have weighed three pounds.
That same component now weighs less than one pound.
What's even more important, you know, every ounce counts when you have to go into space.
Furthermore, what happened in weight happened even more in cost.
And finally, at that time it was secret and I couldn't talk about it.
Today I can tell you that I think is the most important difference.
What I am telling you, that an object, we call it brilliant pebble, weighing about 100 pounds can be put into space for approximately a million dollars.
Plus minus 50%, but not plus 1,000%.
Million dollars it is.
So let me just Stop there really quickly.
What he's telling you is, in a two-year period, they were able to downsize the costs and the weight, which is huge in space.
I know all you people that don't think space is real, weight in space and getting it there, read the literature.
Okay?
I'm not that smart of a guy.
But it's the same thing, you know, when I talk about NASA and the Transformers Conference and CubeSats and mini sats.
And, you know, he talks about how long they've had a lot of this technology, but it wasn't being made en masse.
And now because things like cell phones have commercialized a lot of these chipsets, et cetera, and made it ever more cheap, okay, that's how it gets expanded into the market.
So in two years' time, they've made these systems a third of the weight, which is huge.
He talks about how they're about 100 pounds at that time in 1990.
All right.
And the cost have come down.
Now, of course, a million dollars then is a lot more than a million dollars today.
But he also talks about, you know, the upside and down.
Some maybe can make half a million, maybe a million, five, but never, you know, 10 million, 100 million.
Let's continue.
And we are talking about 5,000 of these to be put into space and doing everything that we have been asked for.
Not a perfect shield that does not exist, but something that will make it very likely that even in the strongest attack, the essential parts in America will survive.
And most certainly, the Soviets cannot count on accomplishing their objective.
Aha!
But in the meantime, the Soviets have no longer any objectives.
The Cold War is over.
So why do we do it?
For two reasons.
The Cold War may come again.
Let me tell you, I don't think it will.
Gorbachev, in my opinion, is the most clever leader the Soviets ever had.
And he has a lot of power.
And talking about things about which you know more than I, my private prediction is he will stay and succeed.
Succeed in what?
In a good thing he's doing.
In divesting communism of all the horrible heritage of Stalin.
It hadn't been done until recently.
For instance, in Romania, Ceausescu was a very worthy successor of Stalin.
He is no more, and Govachev played a role in that.
He may succeed in making communism honorable.
I'm not going to be a communist, no matter how honorable it becomes, because I happen to believe, together with those who introduced the American Revolution, that government is bad, necessary, but bad.
The less of it, the better.
Perhaps I shouldn't say that in Washington, but I'm saying it.
So let me just say that.
Like, let's take off for a second.
Teller's obviously like a really smart guy.
He talks about a small government, and yet he's part of some of the most compartmentalized black programs out there in government abuse and secrecy you can imagine.
And look, I get it.
I know we need a military, but we also have to be cognizant of the fact that these are the people that are developing the systems that are not just taking a life or not, and I'm sure they look at it on the other perspective, like they're not just protecting a life, but they can take many lives.
Or are they protecting many lives?
You know, there's a 60 Minutes piece on AI weapons and this new like tech bro billionaire guy and flip-flops and all the autonomous weapons that he's now building, you know, for the military industrial complex and air and sea and how they're AI driven.
And he's making the same arguments for AI.
I'm a small government guy.
I agree with Teller on this.
However, what?
I see the irony.
You know, I'm not a part of the system that Teller is a part of.
Let's continue.
And if government is bad, world government is worse.
And Gorbachev is a communist.
Because together, or rather, following all of Russian history, not only Soviet history, centralized power, as honorable as possible, but centralized power.
And what follows from That?
Guess.
You guess.
I won't.
The fact is that he seriously introduced not only openness, a good dose of it, not sufficient, but a good dose.
He also started to reduce Soviet massive military expenditures in the conventional field, but not in rockets, not in nuclear, not in the really modern field.
He is very intelligent and we don't know his plans.
Under these conditions, I need it a little cooler, thank you.
Under these conditions, for us not to pursue the defenses that make the continuing and the developing Soviet arms less and less effective would be complete folly.
Because I claim we don't know the future, we don't know that the Cold War is over, and we might consider all kinds of collaboration with the Soviets as long as it does not interfere with the safety of the United States.
And now here comes the second point.
As long as it does not interfere with the safety of the world.
So if we're talking about safety of the United States, safety of the world, and collaboration, I often talk about the ISS.
And I often talk about Russia, the United States, China, etc.
And that alliance.
And, you know, you have to realize that those nations being part of that, they have also weaponized space to a certain extent.
I also want to talk about that argument that's constantly being made of, well, the other guy's doing it.
And look, real argument, right?
It's the same one, not just in quote-unquote space weapons, but AI, biowarfare, etc.
Let's continue.
While we have been moderately successful in limiting the growth of nuclear weapons, the spreading of nuclear weapons.
We have been unsuccessful, hardly tried, to limit the spread of rockets.
Now there are 15 or more governments which possess rockets, short range, medium range, long range, and therewith the possibility of aggression is extended, particularly of sudden aggression, into unknown quarter.
And that proliferation continues.
30 or more governments will be involved by the year 2000.
And here I want to tell you something.
STI, as I have already told you, is not 100% effective shield against an all-out nuclear attack.
So again, this is like one of those big reveals.
It's like, at this point, yeah, it's not perfect.
Even in the beginning, he said there is no such thing as a perfect system.
But, and look, on a micro scale, the Israelis have kind of demonstrated this with the quote-unquote Iron Dome, right?
It may be, I hope it will be, 100% effective in detailing such an attack.
But if it comes, there will be leakage, I believe.
But against a small attack coming from any of the 15 or 30 governments, it will be a perfect shield.
Provided we find agreement in the world how the new defensive technologies can be used to stop war anywhere.
You notice how agreement.
It's that same agreement I was just talking about, you know, with these quote-unquote nuclear nations, the ones with the space weapons, the ones with that technology.
And this now is the military problem.
And now I ask our chairman to extend my talk for five hours.
And then I will give you a complete report on my incomplete ideas how to accomplish this.
If he does not happen to give me right away this permission.
No.
No.
Well, in that case, I told you what you have to do.
Because the instruments are there.
If we can agree that all rocket launching should be announced.
And agree what we do if an agreement is broken.
And do it not for us, but for everybody.
We can do great things.
But instead, since our chairman unkindly did not allow me to talk for Five hours.
I therefore will talk a little bit.
Can I talk for five or ten minutes about the peace dividends?
And on that, I think I can give you a better answer.
And that is one more reason why I should concentrate on that.
Because now that we have methods worked on in Livermore, but worked on elsewhere as well, and I talk more about Livermore mostly because I know more about it.
Because day before yesterday, I held in my hand some of these new developed light components and incidentally saw the vice president put it in his hand.
Was visibly impressed, vocally impressed.
Now that we can do that, we can do marvelous things in space.
And I now want to cut the ties 100%.
I will not talk now, I could, but I won't, about military-related subjects.
I will talk about peaceful applications, the peaceful dividend of what has been accomplished and what is being further accomplished if and as brilliant pebbles, go ahead.
Again, he's talking about the development of materials that will make their way out into fields outside of the military.
I mean, you look at Teller there.
He's got the crazy eyebrows, still sharp as a tech in the twilight.
But again, folks, you know, we're talking about the Golden Dome, talking about space weapons.
Space has been militarized for a very, very long time.
The only question is how effective it is, what exactly the technologies that are being utilized are, all right, and what the enemy has as well.
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