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Feb. 9, 2025 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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The Malones EXPOSE The LIES Of The NWO!!!
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Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
We've got a great show lined up for you today.
We've got both Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Jill Glasspool Malone to talk about the book Psywar Enforcing the New World Order.
We're going to get into the new Donald Trump administration, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and beyond.
You're not going to want to miss it.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
And we are back.
We are now joined by the Malones.
A pleasure to have you both with us.
Now, I think the vast majority of what has already happened with this Trump administration is in a positive direction.
Taking away the security clearances of people like John Brennan, Michael Hayden, and beyond.
Big smile on my face.
Leaving the World Health Organization.
Sounds great.
Can't wait.
Let's get out.
Let's make it the United Nations as well.
Defunding some of these operations and organizations.
All positive stuff.
But then on the other end of the spectrum, we have things like Larry Ellison.
Sam Altman, the Stargate Project, and even something that I haven't really seen anybody in the alternative media hit on really early on in the administration, whether or not it was through Trump or not, because it obviously started before that.
We just gave Moderna another over half billion dollars to accelerate this quote-unquote bird flu vaccine.
So I'm going to stop with my rant and rave, and I'm going to allow you guys to tell me what you think of the first couple weeks of this administration.
Again, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and where you think we're headed.
Go ahead.
So what is today?
Is today day 11 or what?
Today's the fourth survey.
Two weeks exactly.
It's a full 14 days.
And just to say it, that Moderna, $590 million.
That contract was meted out, I want to say, two days before the inauguration.
That was done under the Biden administration at the very last minute, so you can't pin that on Trump.
Yeah, that was akin to the Fauci pardon and those other nefarious activities.
They rushed it out the door.
And there's about another 400 million that went to all sorts of other companies to develop an mRNA vaccine also.
All right.
In December.
But on the bird flu story, we've done our best to put a stake in the heart of that vampire, even by the CDC's own recognition.
This is a low-risk pathogen.
And Jill has done a deep dive into the literature.
She was originally an avian science major at UC Davis, which means she knows all about chicken houses, among other things, and the whole poultry industry.
She's done a deep dive into what is the peer-reviewed literature.
On the lethality of this bird flu strain that's currently circulating, H5N1. And Jill, why don't you talk a little bit about what you found?
Yeah, so you have low pathogenic and high pathogenic.
And they define that in a laboratory setting by giving birds avian flu and then seeing how many die, basically.
And when you actually look at what's been done in terms of...
Defining this particular variant, there hasn't been a lot that's in the literature.
That doesn't necessarily mean it hasn't been done, but there's not a lot there as to what the pathogenicity of this actually is.
And of course, it's really important to remember, let me just say, that pathogenic avian bird flu is not pathogenic human anything.
It's bird flu.
So, Jill, how lethal is bird flu to birds, to chickens?
Oh, it's 100% because we killed them all.
Exactly.
All right, hold on.
Let's pull that back just for a moment.
I've been in this game for a long time, almost two decades at this point.
I remember 2008, 2009. The hype around not only H1N1 and bird flu, but then it morphed into piggy flu as well.
And even then, the WHO went into, I believe it was pandemic level six.
At that time, they were also advocating for multiple shots.
I remember on the Today Show, Meredith Vieira is like, wait a minute, we're not talking about one vaccine.
We're talking about two or maybe more.
That's a lot for the American public.
And at that time, The public certainly...
It was not fully integrated into the web through this little magic device.
This is when the first iPhones are coming out.
Most people have a flip phone.
You would still hear the talking point, oh, where did you read that on the internet?
The internet wasn't the source of quote-unquote mainstream information for most people.
And I feel like that was a dry run for obviously what we would see during the COVID-1984 nightmare, especially on the prop.
So, to bring it back, we have a chapter on psychological bioterrorism that is derived from a lecture in large part or an interview that was given by a former Soviet Intelligence
Specialist in Biowarfare, Alexander Kozumov.
And Kozumov used the term information bioterrorism to describe this.
In 2017. And he gave this interview in 2017 before the COVID crisis.
And he lays down a series of steps and he speaks that this is normal spycraft.
This is well-known spycraft.
In the former Soviet Union, in the current Russia, in the United States, across the world by various intelligence, let's say, agencies.
And what he describes is a process of gradually introducing a fear narrative having to do with infectious disease into the public awareness through lower-level corporate media, places like Politico.
And then gradually, quote, heating the issue, raising its profile, getting more and more high-profile, frontline corporate media like The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, CNN, to start pushing out stories about this,
and then miraculously coming out with some sort of a rescue special thing that is supposed to resolve all of this.
And then he talks about how this can be used to disrupt economies, disrupt nation states, how the economic damage associated with this type of information or psychological bioterrorism is far greater than actual bioterror events, maybe a hundredfold or a thousandfold greater in terms of the economic damages.
And he speaks of this all as standard operating procedure, just standard spycraft.
This is what we do.
And when I read that, having been at the forefront of the COVID crisis and, you know, receiving the slings and arrows and Ebola and I don't know how many flu outbreaks, I was just stunned because it completely paralleled the series of steps that are performed and that we were seeing deployed, for instance, with monkeypox.
We started to see it deployed about leprosy in an effort to discredit the governor of Florida.
This is standard psychological warfare spycraft to weaponize the fear of infectious disease.
And I argue, Jill and I argue in the book, that this is profoundly amoral.
This is something that we don't advocate for censorship.
Other people that do this, having been censored.
We're a little sensitive to that issue.
But we do suggest that these people should not be part of—they shouldn't be celebrated.
They shouldn't be allowed to be part of the national dialogue.
They should be shunned.
This is grossly unethical behavior, and it happens in cycles.
And they tried to play that hand in the United States, and it's largely fizzled out.
I flatter myself to think that we had a role in that, in calling basically bullshit.
On what was being done, we referred to it as fear porn, just like we did with the monkeypox outbreak.
And I think calling it out really helps to discredit these people and to get them to crawl back in their box.
But now it's being socialized in the UK in exactly the same way.
But the damage done is going to last a long time.
You just don't hatch chickens overnight and have them start laying eggs.
The price of eggs is going to be high for a long time.
And it's also going to put a real supply shortage on vaccines.
The traditional vaccines are made in flu vaccines, which is going to drive the mRNA product into the market even further.
He spoke over you right there.
You're talking about the fact that many of these traditional vaccines are used with eggs, correct?
Yes. - Yes, yes. - They're actually grown in chick embryos. - Yeah, yeah.
So if you get a vaccine shortage, then all of a sudden what's on the shelf?
It's mRNA vaccines.
So again, you know, is this intentional?
Who knows, but it sure feels...
It reeks to high heaven.
Yeah, yeah.
And just to say it, there is peer-reviewed studies.
One, I believe it was Belgium, on chickens, where they actually looked in a chicken house at birds that were infected with flu.
And many of them have no symptoms.
So the pathogenicity is really not known.
And we don't have birds flying out of the sky and dropping dead from flu.
We're not seeing bird carcasses around, which says that it's not as pathogenic as they're implying.
And remember, bird flu is endemic in migratory waterfowl.
There is no way that we are going to eliminate bird flu.
Unless we extinguish and make extinct all the migratory waterfowl in both continents, both the U.S. And again, the propaganda.
We've never gone out and massively tested our livestock and our pets and our wildlife.
And our cows.
Our cows, the livestock, yeah, for avian flu.
So what a surprise.
We're finding it.
You know, we're going out and...
We're repurposing diagnostic testing facilities to test for avian flu from the COVID vaccine debacle.
And we're finding it.
We don't know if it was around in the last outbreaks or not because we were testing for it then.
So to say that this is something new and different, they really don't know.
If I can close on one thought regarding bird flu topic.
What you need to watch for with any of these outbreaks.
Is sustained human-to-human transmission and evidence of death or severe disease in humans.
If you don't see either of those two things, then it's a nothing burger as far as risk to human health.
Which you're not seeing with this outbreak.
Both those conditions fail in the case of bird flu current.
We're going to take a break in a moment, but one of the things that disturbs me about all these virus and pathogen outbreaks...
Is the fact that isn't it a reality that when you have these type of viruses, eventually those that they attack, well, number one, the lethality seems to dissipate.
And at the same time, the populace seems to adapt greater, giving it a lower lethality rate with each and every variation of this.
Yet...
Constantly, we are hyped that these viruses are getting more deadly, more prevalent, and more contagious.
And especially in the case of the COVID-1984 nightmare, I think that that was really hyped and really reality in so many ways was turned on its head when we were supposed to fear things like the Delta.
Or the Omicron variant.
So I want to highlight that in the next segment.
The book is Enforcing the New World Order Psywar by Dr. Robert Malone.
You are not going to want to miss that one, of course, with Jill as well.
And The Forward by Michael Flynn.
We're going to take that break.
We're going to come back.
We're going to talk about...
Not only the lethality of these viruses, but now the Central Intelligence Agency catering to the idea this was a quote-unquote lab leak out of Wuhan.
on that and much, much more when Making Sense of the Madness returns.
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So I know I said a mouthful there, but I have never been a proponent that this leaked out of a lab.
I think if you even look at the paperwork and the depositions, you look at Daszak, for instance.
You know, you guys mentioned all those pardons.
I was actually surprised that the pardons didn't go further than Fauci to people like Francis Collins, Barrick, Daszak, others.
Yeah, I would have thought that it did.
It didn't.
Now, when you look at just the paperwork and not Daszak's deposition, they had Chapel Hill in there.
They had universities out of New York.
You've now had the former CDC director come out and actually mention the Chapel Hill thing that myself and others like yourself were probably talking about, what, four or five years ago?
Because it was all public.
And I still maintain...
I don't believe that this thing was leaked out of anywhere.
This looks like a virus that was not only released but seeded multiple times and then a narrative created around it, number one, to up its lethality and then suppress the actual data that the World Health Organization would later admit, I think, in late 2020 that you had what?
A 99.7% or more percent chance of survival when they were talking about an actual 3% to 4% lethality rate.
So again, instead of a 99.7% chance of survival with this virus, they were saying somewhere between 96% and 97%, which is light years away, correct?
Yeah.
Yes.
So they were projecting between three and four out of every 100 people infected would be dead.
From this.
And you'll remember the propaganda.
We now know it was propaganda coming out of the CCP early on with people dropping dead on the streets.
But do you know the name of the person who really first demonstrated through empirical research and data that, in fact, the case fatality rate was a fraction of a fraction of 1%?
Maybe, but I'm probably not going to get it right.
His name is Jay Bhattacharya, newly appointed director of NIH. So, good to know.
Credit where credit's due.
Jay did something very brave.
Now, he didn't come out against the vaccines.
His position has been that they are good and useful for high-risk individuals, the elderly and the very young.
That's his position.
I disagree with it, but that's been his consistent position.
But he absolutely made two huge contributions during the COVID crisis that went against the narrative.
One was this study that I was referencing centered in Northern California, Palo Alto area.
And the other was the Great Barrington Declaration, for which he was vilified by the likes of Tony Fauci and Francis Collins that you mentioned.
In fact, let me stop you.
We actually have the emails where Collins and him talk about a swift And just to say,
Senator Ron Johnson has now subpoenaed...
The rest of Fauci's emails, because Fauci did not release, the NIH did not release all of his emails.
They only released a fraction of them.
And he did not have subpoena power as a minority member of the committee that he was on.
So now he's got, I'm forgetting the committee, it's an investigations, subcommittee on investigations, right?
Yes, subcommittee on investigations.
So we are going to have a...
More data coming in on Fauci and his role in all of this and in the cover-up, because there's clearly a cover-up.
It was, you know, propaganda, coordinated, truly incredible.
And just to say, I've spoken to Ron directly.
He's another one that I consider a friend and colleague.
What a wonderful opportunity we've had, Jill and I, to get to know these important people through the last four years.
But Ron...
Emphasizes that moving ahead with legislation in the absence of public support is a fool's errand.
His strategy that he is trying to get the medical freedom community and others to recognize is that we have to move carefully and purposefully.
To raise public awareness and to elicit a broad-based public support for legislative change before we can actually implement successfully legislative change.
So that's his focus.
His focus is going to be on holding hearings, subpoenaing information, subpoenaing individuals for hearings and getting the truth out so that people can see what was done.
In the case of the COVID crisis and the collusion between pharma and the U.S. government in general.
But if this stuff is not referred to the Department of Justice and if Fauci is not persecuted, prosecuted, it will happen again.
That's the truth.
Unless there's accountability for what happened and there's something to bring these people to justice.
And it's not just Fauci.
It is a ton of NIH employees that need to go down in this.
If I could do one thing, though.
And the current acting director of NIH, Matt Memoli, who's a MDMS like myself, is somebody who has acted with integrity throughout this history.
He's objected to the ethical breaches that have gone on.
He's basically acted as one of the only people at NIAID. To oppose Tony Fauci during this period.
And I just want to make the point that there are good people in the government that act with integrity.
Not everybody is compromised.
And Matt Memoli is one example of a good person that is within the system and doing what he can to try to make it act with and behave with more integrity.
Well, let me just say this.
I totally and completely agree with you.
Unless there is some kind of criminal accountability, you leave the door open for a similar operation, right?
Because unfortunately, as much as we talk about the deep state and these criminals, number one, we just had unprecedented...
Pre-pardons go on, not only right in front of our face, but at the last minute, talk about psychological warfare.
You know, the Hunter Biden one was bad enough, but then when it was in the news, they were going to do all these other ones.
And I thought to myself, come on.
They're going to pardon all the J6 committee.
They're going to pardon people like me.
This doesn't sound like this is a pardon.
The Biden family, it didn't sound like it was real.
And then it happens.
Whether or not that stands up or whether or not our Supreme Court even looks at it, I don't know because the Supreme Court on a federal level sucks.
And a lot of people aren't talking about that.
But for instance, we want criminal accountability.
We can't even get our federal Supreme Court to look at the Missouri versus Biden case that clearly not only saw but ruled that there was government collusion and narrative censorship around COVID and other things, right?
Our federal Supreme Court steps in.
Says, we don't necessarily love that ruling.
We'll take a look at the case when we want.
I, being a moron, thought, hey, the state Supreme Court actually looked at the evidence.
That means our federal Supreme Court will have to look at the evidence.
Nope.
We got a system where they voted 4-3 to say that it was no standing, therefore none of the evidence had to be looked at.
Huge issue.
In October, I had Giuliani on.
Giuliani's got a book out there talking about the Biden crime family, listing all their crimes.
They're going to jail.
I had to stop Michael Rudy.
That's imagination land.
You and I both know nobody's going to jail.
And again, you have to go all the way back to the Iran-Contra affair to get any type of accountability within the executive level.
Most of those guys slaps on the wrist, pardons, commutes afterwards.
They made the face of it Oliver North.
He becomes a millionaire with TV shows and radio shows.
That's how you deal with corruption.
And then you go on this 20-plus year span where really the only person at the executive level that gets prosecuted is Scooter Libby to take the brunt of the Enron crimes away from Cheney, and Trump pardons him.
So you've got to show me an example of where we've got real criminal investigations and accountability.
Was it Trump that pardoned Scooter?
No.
Oh yeah, he pardoned him in 2017. He said it was very unfair what happened to Scooter.
Going back to Nixon.
Hold on, we're having a...
What's that about Nixon?
I'm sorry?
Sorry, so if you look at the blanket pardon, it started with Nixon.
Okay.
And then the Vietnam War draft dodgers got blanket pardons for that particular crime.
But since then, there really haven't been any...
Listen, I'm all for Trump and the J6 pardons, right?
That's one of those things.
Thank God he did that.
The Ross Ulbricht pardon was a big thing for me if we're going to talk about freedom of speech.
The J6 pardons were not blanket pardons.
But, I mean, they did do 1,500.
You can pardon someone retroactively.
Oh, no, no.
They weren't pre-pardons.
I understand.
You're talking about pre-pardons.
I understand.
This is why I think the DOJ could go after those pardons, and I think it needs to be done.
Well, I guess we'll see what happens in the future, whether or not there's going to be criminal accountability.
I think there needs to be.
I think we are seeing somewhat of a restructuring of the administration.
But at the same time, you know, Dr. Robert Malone, you've worked with these organizations.
I don't know if you're going to rein in DARPA. I don't know if you're going to rein in the rest of the military-industrial complex and their contractors.
And obviously, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Department of Defense, etc., they have big problems.
So if you were in charge...
How would you deal with those so that we can start to get criminal accountability?
Not just hearings or investigations, but so we can actually get into a court system and not international law.
I know a lot of people have talked about Nuremberg 2.0, but I often think that that was a big failure.
You know, how many of the Nazis actually went to jail and how many actually got integrated into our own systems of the CIA and NASA through Operation Paperclip and beyond.
If you're in charge right now, what are the steps that we take to get that criminal accountability to ensure this doesn't happen again?
In terms of the DOD, one of the first steps is a comprehensive audit.
That'll reveal a lot of things.
The selective elimination of various departments, such as the ongoing controversy right now about USAID, I think is very encouraging.
The position that was taken of basically providing federal employees the opportunity to resign and continue to receive payouts until the end of the year is apparently certainly motivating a number of federal employees who aren't very committed to their jobs to leave the federal government.
That's a good step.
In terms of holding accountable One of the things that is necessary is to have people who are in the position of providing legal oversight and accountability.
So there's various terms for these people that sit within an agency and are supposed to be Basically representing the interests of the Justice Department within those agencies.
And in many cases, these people that are appointed are toothless.
They're not doing their job.
They're not pursuing wrongdoers.
They, in many cases, aren't very experienced.
They don't really understand the political dynamics.
We need to have people in there as federal investigators with teams.
That are ready to act aggressively to identify the wrongdoers and to hold them accountable.
That's another big thing is legal accountability for these people.
So I think we have to have a financial baseline.
I think that we need to move, as Doge is, to eliminate redundant and poorly functioning sectors of these various agencies.
I think we need to look at...
Fundamental things like, for instance, the CDC is not actually a chartered agency.
So unlike many of the others which were chartered by Congress, the executive branch can act unilaterally to eliminate the CDC or to merge it into the NIH and the FDA. I think we can act by splitting some of these agencies and moving them back into other branches of the federal government.
But I think the biggest thing is the bully pulpit.
I think establishing leadership, as Donald Trump is doing right now, that is very clearly committed to productivity, to openness and transparency, to accountability, and to providing value for cost to the American.
We need to transform the culture into one in which these people recognize that they are truly public servants, rather than the public being their servants.
I was listening to Captain Patel, an interview with him yesterday, and he was talking about setting up an office of declassification.
The classified document system is being used to hide corruption and to hide malfeasance on the part of government officials and employees.
And that basically the government just needs to go through and start declassifying everything because almost nothing needs to be classified.
And that this is just a great big way of hiding corruption.
Sunlight.
First of all, let me just say this.
I've had my problems with Donnie T in the past.
But if I had believed that they were actually going to declassify, say, everything on 9-11, I would have been going door to door.
Now, all of a sudden, I think that that may actually be a reality with these executive orders concerning JFK, RFK, MLK. I would have loved to see Malcolm X thrown in there as well.
However, you've got a multitude of other institutes.
And if you really want to go back, I mentioned Paperclip.
You know, Annie Jacobson wrote a book in 2013 entitled The Same Thing, Operation Paperclip.
And at that time, I don't know how much they've declassified since then.
They literally had...
500 million documents.
Let me repeat that.
500 million documents still classified in an area that is just post-World War II. And I understand...
Joe, can you talk about the CIA declassified documents website?
Wait one second.
We've got to take a break.
That'll be a great intro.
So when we come back...
We're not just going to be talking Cywar enforcing the New World Order.
We're going to be talking about declassification, the CIA, and beyond.
We are with the Malones.
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So you were about to talk about the Central Intelligence Agency and the declassification process.
Robert just wants me to mention that the CIA Reading Room, I think it's CIAReadingRoom.gov, is a site where you can search their declassified documents.
It is a fun rabbit hole to go through.
There's all sorts of stuff there.
Of course, the search engine isn't very good, and it's hard to get...
Exactly what you want, but it's still a lot of fun.
And for instance, you can go find the original 1974 Kissinger report on population control.
You know, so for anybody, go to the CIA reading room and have at it because there's some good stuff there.
And I think that with Kash Patel leading the FBI, we're going to get a lot more information coming up.
So, you know, you just mentioned Kash Patel.
And look.
I like Cash.
You know, I know that you've also spoken on the Reawaken America tour.
You know, my biggest thing with Cash is I had him on the program, and this is, I don't know, probably seven, eight months ago.
And we talked about all these issues and government censorship and narratives, etc.
And I think some of that has come to light.
But at the same time, we have a secret military operation known as signature reduction in this program that when I brought up to him...
He acted like he didn't know about it.
And then he walked off my program when we went to commercial break saying that it was too much QAnon sense stuff.
And I'm thinking to myself, well, this is a government program that has been placed now over a decade.
I've only seen Newsweek do a report on it.
It's an extensive report.
There's 60,000 of these people.
They're running domestic operations.
In the first paragraph, they tell you that they are embedded in consultancies and companies, some of them household names.
So if you don't think they're in the Googles of the world, the Xs, the Facebooks, I think you're being very naive.
Obviously, they're also in the Raytheons, the Lockheed Martins, the Boeings, the SpaceXs.
If we don't even know what's going on and they're not accountable, how do you stop this type of corruption?
Maybe they're doing that on the back end, but let's acknowledge it for the American people, just like you said, with mass declassification.
And what do you think comes with mass declassification?
Because I had Rudy Giuliani on the program.
I asked him a couple tough questions about 9-11, and he's like, look, after what's been happening to me, I'm open to all the conspiracy theories.
He said, Let's declassify it all and see what comes out.
And I'm of agreement.
Now, I don't think that those documents are necessarily going to say, oh, the government did this or that.
But they are going to present evidence by investigations of government agencies that completely and totally contradict the narrative that we're sold.
And I think the same thing is going to happen with JFK, RFK, MLK. What do you expect to happen?
And you talked about that cultural change.
Is that what we need to trigger that cultural change?
Because I would argue that is it.
So I just I first would like to mention a similar I don't know what you want to call it.
It's not an agency.
So in 2021-2022, Scott Gottlieb, who used to be head of the FDA and is now Pfizer, on their board, he went on a speaking tour talking about how the CIA needed A way to measure pandemics around the world.
And that Congress needed to step in.
And he went all over the place talking about this, wrote editorials, and obviously he was working for someone.
Congress stepped in and made a new office under the Director of National Intelligence for a pandemic response, giving it, we think, to the CIA. They passed this legislation that's classified, okay, so you don't know what they're doing.
And then he went away radio silent.
That was it.
Like, you can't find anything else.
They got what they wanted.
Likewise, the military has been involved in transhumanism, the cyborg soldiers, okay?
And that was all over the place.
From 2016 to 2020, there was all sorts of stuff.
And then all of a sudden, public caught on to it.
And people started writing about it, and then boom, radio silence.
Whatever they're doing now since 2020, they have hardly published anything.
So we really do not know what they're up to with that program.
Well, and also, just to throw another log on the fire, there's a new NIH agency called ARPA-H that has a dark budget that is clearly intelligence-based.
And there is zero information about what that mission is.
Their budget is so dark, it bypasses the Secretary of NIH and is funded directly from Congress.
And their budget is a single line item.
Of course it is.
So how do you get transparency when you can't even find out what the organization is doing, called, who they're hiring?
What their purpose is, what their mission is.
Well, I would argue that that is correct.
And, you know, you mentioned, first of all...
Just because I always like to back up my stuff, just so everybody can read the article I was referring to about the secret military and signature reduction, it's extensive.
It utilizes DARPA technology.
You know, you scroll all the way down, take you a good 40 minutes.
You think that's a hand?
No, that's a DARPA-driven skin glove that literally can emit human oils and have anybody's biometrics on it.
It's in the thing.
You talk about transhumanism.
NASA, a huge part of that, put out that Future Strategic Warfare document, 2025, all the way.
We're in 2025 now.
This was in 2001. It lays out everything.
And if you want to talk about cyborgs, plenty of that in there.
In fact, the subverse of that is the bots, borgs, and humans of 2025 welcome you.
And, you know, you look at Google.
For instance, you know, a lot of people are aware of the seed funding from the Central Intelligence Agency through In-Q-Tel.
What they don't know is that Larry Page and Sergey Brin's initial funding, the initial funding of the search engine, is NASA and DARPA. Like, they literally got them.
So you're telling me that's not a Trojan horse?
They were giving the military contracts for the Google Maps.
They were given that portion of IP early on in Google.
Like the year after they started it, they were given the IP for Google Maps.
A hundred percent.
And you even look at somebody like Ray Kurzweil because you brought up the cyborg stuff.
This is a guy that's integrated into Google, starts working for them very early on in the 2000s.
Google also has an immortality division known as Calico.
But I don't know if you've seen the recent Marc Andreessen.
There's the one where he talks about, oh, there's two big ones.
So there's one where he discusses the meeting in May with the Biden administration on artificial intelligence where they tell him it's going to be a walled garden.
And he goes, yeah, he basically says, well, how are you going to?
Wall off the math.
And he goes, oh, we'll just do the same thing we did post-Cold War with all of physics.
And you're just like, okay, so now the last 70 years of physics we can't trust.
That's why.
Erick Weinstein has a fascinating podcast where he talks about this.
He thinks that string theory is basically a ruse.
Of course it is!
Of course it is.
Listen, the whole metaverse, multiverse, Johnny nonsense is nothing but bullshit.
I talk about it all the time.
They're trying to detach you from your biological and physical reality and think that everything is possible and you're just zeros and ones and everything's inconsequential.
It's totally Johnny.
I wonder why they can't perpetrate that.
And the whole transhumanism thing is what you've got is a bunch of aging tech bros.
That are afraid of their own mortality, and they've come up with this thesis and storyline, which is remarkably similar in structure to the old story of Freeze Your Head.
Remember, Walt Disney is in cryogenic storage.
So it's Ted Williams.
They had to knock that tuna can off his head.
A lot of people missed that part, but go ahead.
Yeah, so I think, you know, to be blunt, this is a bunch of godless, ultra-rich.
Techies that have invented a storyline to help them confront or deal with their own mortality, which they're having difficulty with.
And it is profoundly narcissistic.
And it is also profoundly anti-human.
This logic that we have to allow evolution into a new machine intelligence.
And my opinion is that Stargate is actually a Trojan horse to enable this super intelligence or general AI capability to develop.
So let's just talk about that for a second because, number one, I think you're right.
First of all...
The quest for immortality is a very old one.
You can go back to stories of the Tree of Life, the Fountain of Youth.
It has been something that basically the power elite have tried to grasp throughout history.
Now, in transhuman in general, I think there is Two baselines.
It's a multitude of things.
But I think when you talk about the predator class, they're talking about two things.
They want to biologically live forever, piggybacking off and experimenting on all of us, but then convince all of us that we can live forever digitally by uploading our consciousness to some kind of metaverse, which is essentially a multiverse of possibilities, right?
So let's euthanize yourself and then some kind of zeros and ones model.
That isn't you is going to live on forever.
No, thank you.
I'm going to back out of that one.
Now, the big proponent of that is Ray Kurzweil.
And Kurzweil, again, hired by Google really early on.
One of the things that I've seen Andreessen say that is just mind-blowing and I don't think people have grasped yet.
Kurzweil, when he wrote The Age of Spiritual Machines, also invented or released Drag-On.
The very first text-to-speech software.
And back then, on a Windows 98 machine, that's pretty darn impressive.
I didn't have to type up my paper.
I could dictate to it.
It got most of the words right.
Andreessen just talked about how they got LAMA, the meta-large learning model, or the large language model, running on a Windows 98 machine.
The Defense Department has large language models, which are just software, which is just numbers, since the 90s.
He's like, if they wanted to, they could have released that.
We could have all been talking to our computers the last 30 years.
Unless, instead, we've been on this path that we've waited 30 years, and guys like Kurzweil have slowly put this technology out.
We've got to take one more break.
I could do two hours with these folks really easily.
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We've got a little less than 10 minutes in the broadcast.
I could go on about transhumanism.
I'd go on about the Stargate project.
I feel like in its extension of what they announced with Cancer Moonshot, I'm very worried about how they're going to apply mRNA.
I think that you would share those concerns.
But let's get into something that maybe is a little positive.
RFK Jr., for all of his flaws and maybe stepping around issues within the hearings, I think is a positive for this country, especially when we are talking about making America healthy again and our food, water, and air supply.
I would just like to get your commentary.
Number one, do you think that he is a net positive?
Number two, do you think he's going to be confirmed?
And what do you think we can expect from the administration with somebody like RFK Jr. at the helm of HHS? You want me to lead?
No, you can lead on it.
So, I know we both know Bobby very well.
And we were taken into his confidence.
A couple of years ago, he was discussing whether or not to run and asked for our counsel.
I think the world of Bobby, as you mentioned, he's not a perfect person.
And it's an amazing journey that he's taken.
Remember, I can't even imagine being a young man, the oldest son of a large family.
Having my father literally executed, as well as my uncle, and being able to recover from that psychologically.
Bobby certainly went to a dark place at one point in his life.
He became addicted, and he is what they call in the medical profession a bent arrow.
He's not a straight arrow, and he admits it openly.
But somewhere along the line, he had an epiphany and dedicated himself to public service, and in particular, public service relating to health.
And children.
And children.
This is not a new thing for him.
And yes, Callie and Casey Means and their book certainly played a role in the development of the Make America Healthy Again movement.
But Bobby has been committed.
To public health and in the form of water, water keepers.
And environmental talk has been huge for him long before he joined Children's Health.
The Monsanto case, etc.
Yeah.
And by the way, the Monsanto case is more relevant than ever because in the last decade, I think it was in 2017, we had a merger of Monsatan and Bayer.
And just for people to remember or maybe learn for the first time, Bayer got caught with live HIV virus in their factor VIII medication for hemophiliacs in the 90s.
I mean, in this country, Europe, and Japan.
I can't believe that there's still a company, let alone now merged with one of the largest food companies.
So now you have food and medicine in this massive merger.
Bayer has a long, notorious reputation of bad actions.
It goes back to World War II and beyond.
So just to say it, you know, the Democratic senators right now are trying to get Bobby to say that he should stay away from vaccines altogether if he's confirmed, which he is not going to do.
But beyond the vaccine story, American health is in such dire straits right now that I feel like his impact could be huge, particularly with Trump signing Schedule F. And making the senior executive service employees at-will employees so that they can be fired and gotten rid of, just like a normal employee, that they don't have an employment for life.
That could revolutionize NIH. But the NIH budget is $50 billion.
And if you go into any of these AI programs online, you say, you know, what has NIH given us in the last decade?
And you look at what they've given us in terms of research.
The return on investment.
The return on investment.
It isn't much.
I mean, that's the truth.
It really isn't much.
This is essentially a full employment act, mostly for foreign scientists.
And to fund universities.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, let me just say this.
I mean, just on baseline.
You know, my generation, I'm 45 years old.
I'm a kid of the 80s.
We were all told we're going to cure cancer.
We're going to live to a hundred plus.
We're all going to be healthier.
Oh, we're developing all these medicines.
Instead...
The life expectancy for both males and females has dropped dramatically.
The amount of chronic illness is over the top.
The amount of autoimmune disease is over the top.
So what have they done for us?
They certainly haven't given us the cheap and effective pharmaceutical solutions that they've promised.
And on top of that, they've moved away from...
Basic health and really absorb this idea that genetically modified organisms are the best thing since breakfast, so let's put them in breakfast, and then let's have no accountability for the multitude of chemical products that we not only utilize in our food but on our bodies and that are in our air and water at this point.
The PFA levels in the waters of Iowa, for God's sake, where I live, are...
Over the top!
And, you know, again, that's one of the things, Bobby, you know, I'm a guy from the Hudson Valley in New York.
I remember when he sued those plants.
I like coal power, too.
I don't love the mercury runoff.
You know, you've got to do things about these.
We've got about three minutes left in the broadcast.
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So just to say it, we didn't touch on it, but...
Climate change has been the best thing for corporations ever because they've been able to completely avoid their responsibility for the local toxins and damage that they're doing to us.
All they have to do is buy some carbon credits and don't they look great?
And that's the other thing.
Carbon is the poison.
It's not all this other stuff.
A life force on the planet is the poison.
It pushes climate change all the time because it's so great for corporations.
Well, again, that was one of Trump's big moments in front of the WEF last week when he called it the Green News scam.
And again, I want a healthy environment.
I'm actually an environmentalist.
I don't want a multitude of terrible things in our soil, our water, our food.
But carbon?
Pretty sure I'm made of it?
And that plans need it to survive?
Not sure that that's the death knell everybody is talking about.
If you had one hope of this administration in the coming months, what is that hope in this final moment?
Cut the federal budget by 25%.
That'll work.
I'll take that.
If we got to boil it down to one thing, that would be a pretty good story.
That would take care of a lot of the corruption.
I would love that.
I would also say that I would really love the end of the IRS and the federal income tax.
I thought a lot of that was rhetoric on the way in.
And the DOE. Well, did you say the DOE, the Department of Energy?
No, the Department of Education.
Oh, education.
Well, listen, the Department of Energy has its problems as well.
I mean, you look at how they were involved with human experimentation for a very long time, and most people have no idea about that.
The Department of Energy also mentioned in the Wuhan documents.
I've had conversations with Andrew G. Huff on that subject.
We've got a lot to do.
Thanks, Jason.
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