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Biocentrism And Quantum Physics Revealed
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Hey everybody, Jason Bermas here.
And we are going to be talking about the theory of biocentrism.
and we're going to do a bit of a watch along with a lecture that dates all the way back to 2010, 15 years ago, by an individual named Robert Lanza.
Now, there's a couple of reasons that I chose this lecture.
Number one, on this broadcast, we're often not only talking about the nature of reality, but the...
Provable science out there that can actually be agreed upon, especially when we're talking about quantum mechanics, quantum physics, and eventually what's utilized for quantum computing and artificial intelligence, right?
And one of the big things that I often discuss is the lack of the ability of the scientific community In any accurate form, describe consciousness and how it fits into what I believe we are in, which is base reality.
Instead, the vast majority of the time, the narrative that we are sold on is this idea of a multiverse.
And not only a multiverse, but if you think about it, on top of the multiverse and the possible quote-unquote simulation theory, right?
They give us the Big Bang, basically everything out of nothing, right?
And I've kind of contended that stuff for a very, very long time because I think it's honestly hot garbage.
I think we're in base reality.
And I think consciousness itself, whatever it is, obviously and clearly just from what we publicly know about, say, the SLIT experiment, right?
Alters everything around us.
So in fact, the reality is that in a way, consciousness helps create reality.
Now, can I articulate this to a point where I can write a scientific paper on it?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
But one of the things that I often do...
Point to, for people to go check out, is something called the Gateway Process, which was the Central Intelligence Agency trying to unravel what consciousness slash reality really is, what we are, and through an army program, they have a whole declassified document from 1983 I'm going to show you in a moment.
This lecture that I'm about to show is broken up into two parts.
And I can already tell you right now we're not going to do the second part.
They're both about 20 minutes each.
However, the second part has one experiment in particular involving the idea of human observation and atoms.
Nuclear weapons, which I thought was just extremely interesting.
So at the very end of this watch-along of the first half, we're going to go to that video in just that one specific section.
Maybe we'll do a watch-along with the whole second half.
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Again, to go check this out in the raw if they'd like, it's Robert Lanza, The Theory of Biocentrism.
There's two parts.
And this is at the Science and Non-Duality Conference of 2010. And just like I stated before, you can go to CIA.gov.
This is on their page right now.
A little dick-a-dick-a-doo if you'd like to download it.
I've already downloaded this, obviously.
And here it is.
This is The Gateway Process.
The analysis and assessment of the gateway process.
And once again, when I watched this lecture from Lanza, so much of this reminded me of this document.
Documents in 83. Lecture is in 2010. And once again, I just want to reiterate that everything that this guy is saying about quantum mechanics, etc., is not what's being pushed by NASA. Is not what's being pushed by Google.
Is not what's being pushed by the media and the holly weirdos out there.
They're pushing a multiverse.
They're pushing a simulation.
They're pushing we're tapping into parallel universes.
Okay?
That's not what this guy's pushing.
And I just was really, really impressed by this lecture.
So without further ado...
Let's kick it off.
Robert Lanza was called by the New York Times one of the three most important scientists alive today.
Just to give you an idea of the caliber of our next presenter.
I'd like to thank Mauricio and the organizers for having me here, but I do have to say that yesterday I was at Logan Airport on my way here, and I was just about ready to get on the plane and lightning struck the airplane and fried the electronics.
And so while I was waiting there for the next airplane, I thought, maybe someone is trying to send me a subtle message.
But anyways, I'd like to talk to you here about biocentrism, which is a new theory of everything which arrives at the same conclusions as non-duality.
So every now and then a very simple but radical idea shakes the foundations of knowledge.
So when the discovery of the earth, that it wasn't flat, challenged the way people perceived themselves in their relationship with the surroundings.
Our ancestors were challenged to believe that the earth was round even though the ground they walked on was flat.
And nothing in everyday experience revealed anything about the truth of this idea.
So if the earth was really round, it was argued that people at the bottom would fall off.
So it was considered complete nonsense 500 years ago.
So likewise, biocentrism is turning the world upside down again, with the seemingly simple idea that the universe arises from life, not the other way around.
So switching the perspective of the universe from physics to biology undoes everything we know about the universe and life in it.
We think that life is just an accident of physics, but a long list of experiments suggest exactly the opposite.
Amazingly, if you add life and consciousness to the equation, you can explain some of the biggest puzzles in science.
For instance, it becomes clear why space and time, indeed the properties of matter themselves, depend on the observer.
It also becomes clear why the laws of the universe itself are fine-tuned for the existence of life.
So until we recognize the universe in our head, attempts to understand the world remain a road to nowhere.
So I just want to start there.
You know, this guy, first of all, bestilled my heart on the flat earth issue.
Before it was an issue, it was about this time that that, you know, that meme, that disinformation campaign started gaining ground and ground and ground.
I like that.
But the fact he's leading off with that our basic reality is incumbent upon biological life, biological life, and consciousness is huge and still something, again, that I think is largely obfuscated.
So science is field to recognize those properties of life that make it critical for our existence.
So the view of the world in which life and consciousness are bottom line to understanding the logic universe is called biocentrism.
And it revolves around the way our consciousness relates to a physical process.
It's a vast mystery that I've pursued my entire help.
My entire life with a lot of help along the way.
So I've come to conclusions that would shock many of my colleagues and predecessors placing biology above the other sciences, in particular physics and chemistry, in an attempt to understand a theory of everything that has eluded these other disciplines.
We're taught since childhood that the universe is divided into two entities, ourselves and that which is outside of us.
So this seems logical.
Self is commonly defined by that that we can control.
So I can move my fingers, but I can't wiggle your toes.
The dichotomy, then, is based largely on control and manipulation.
So the basic biology, however, tells us that we don't control most of the trillions of cells in the body any more than we do control a rock or a tree.
So consider everything around you right now.
Me up here at the podium, your hands, your body.
Language and custom all say that that's outside us in the external world.
But you can't see anything through the vault of bones surrounding your brain.
Everything you see and experience right now, your body, the walls, the ceilings of this room, are an active process that's occurring in your mind.
You are this process.
You're not just the part that you control.
So your eyes just aren't portals to the world.
You think you just see out there, but again, you can't see through the cranium.
So what you're seeing, again, is everything that you think right there is out there is actually a construction happening moment to moment in your mind.
So again, I want to emphasize that this is all happening in your head.
And even the light from the bulbs in this room...
They're moving through a space that's actually created in your mind.
So consider everyday reality.
So, for instance, the weather outside.
You see a blue sky out there.
But the cells in your brain could be changed so that everything that's blue looks green or red.
Could even do a little genetic engineering so that everything that's red makes a noise or vibrates or makes you want to have sex like some birds.
For instance, you think it's bright out, the circuits in your brain could be changed so that it's dark.
You think it's hot and humid, but to a tropical frog it would look cold and dry.
So this logic applies to virtually everything.
Bottom line is, and the first principle of biocentrism is, is that reality involves your consciousness.
It could not be there without your consciousness.
Emerson once said, we have learned that we do not see directly, but immediately, and that we have no means for correcting the colored and distorted lenses which we are, or computing the amount of their errors.
Perhaps these subjective lenses have a creative power.
Perhaps there are no objects.
So why is everyone surprised at the experimental findings of quantum theory?
So this is where he gets into the double-slit experiment.
And once again, I just love the reiteration that without consciousness, without biology, there cannot be a physical reality, if you will.
It's because we're still operating in a severely outdated paradigm.
We still believe there's an external world that exists independent of the perceiving subject.
So philosophers and physicists from Plato to Hawking have debated this.
Niels Bohr, the great noble physicist, once said, not so.
When we're measuring something, we're forcing an undetermined, undefined world to assume an experimental value.
We're not measuring the world, we're creating it.
And this is from a physicist.
And at the legendary debates, Einstein presented ingenious ideas supporting the idea of a real world out there.
But Bohr shot every one of them down one by one and gradually convinced his colleagues of his point of view.
Today, however, most people still believe there's an external world out there.
This issue, of course, is ancient and predates biocentrism, which...
Which, of course, explains why one view and not the other has to be correct.
So let's consider a little of the physics, the real experiments.
Consider the famous two-hole experiment.
When scientists watch a particle go through two holes in a barrier, it acts like a little bullet and logically goes through one hole or the other.
But if you don't watch it, it behaves like a wave and can go through both holes at the same time.
Why should a particle out there change its behavior depending on whether you watch it or not?
And of course, the answer is that reality is a process that involves your consciousness.
And again, there have been many, many versions of that experiment.
Consider Eisenberg's famous uncertainty principle.
If there was really a world out there with particles just bouncing around, then we should certainly be able to measure all of their properties.
But you can't.
So, for instance, a particle's exact location and its momentum can't be known at the same time.
So why should it matter to matter or to particles what you decide to measure?
Again, the answer is simple.
The particles aren't just out there.
Again, we can go on and on.
One more, entangled particles you've probably heard of.
How can particles possibly instantaneously be connected at opposite sides of the galaxy out there in violation of the speed of light?
Again...
So let's just talk about that for a minute.
He's talking about quantum entanglement there.
And, you know, once again, you know, I discuss the invisible universe a lot.
One of the big things I'm constantly hitting home on is NASA says it has discovered this invisible magnetic sphere that is just as important as gravity.
Again, in 2024 they found that, this summer.
Okay?
And we already know we have the ionosphere, the stratosphere.
We know that we have magnetic waves that surround everything.
We know that we communicate right now.
We're communicating not just through fiber optics, but through literal invisible waves for your Wi-Fi or your magic box on your cell phone.
All these different things are absolutely occurring and then presenting us.
With information that we can decode in our visible universe.
Alright?
And again, what I like about this guy is he's not getting into the realm of quote-unquote science fiction.
This lazy idea that will just explain it away with a multiverse.
Now, a little later on...
He also takes a slight dig at intelligent design.
I just want everybody to know that I do not dismiss intelligent design.
I do not dismiss the idea of a god.
And just because this guy has an East Coast, what sounds like Boston accent, I don't disregard him either.
I like his accent, by the way.
I'm just seeing some commentary in there.
By the way, shout out to Kurt Metzger, who seems to be watching this broadcast.
Let's get back to Mr. Lanza.
They're not just out there.
Space and time are tools of our mind.
They're forms of animal understanding.
So this is the problem, in a nutshell, is that we look at the world like a chickmonk or a squirrel.
The squirrel opens his eyes and sees the acorn, and it's just miraculously there.
He grabs it and he scurries up the tree without any further thought.
And we humans are the same.
We wake up in the morning, and the world is just magically there.
We go through life, we drool, completely oblivious to what's going on around us in the world.
But experiment after experiment shows that not a single particle out there exists with real properties until it's observed.
So, it doesn't take a genius to realize that reality is a process, again, that involves consciousness.
So what we need to do is replace the old physics with a new biology.
Space and time aren't these hard, cold objects out there, sort of like the pebbles and the shells you pick up along the seashore.
No.
Wave your hand through the air.
If you take everything away, what's left?
Nothing.
And the same thing is for time.
You can't put it in a bottle like milk.
So again...
All of experience is just information that's occurring inside your mind, and space and time are the mind's tools for putting it all together.
We even do it in dreams.
With your eyes closed, you can be on the beach with bright lights just as real as we are here in this room.
And by the way, if you think about it, that's why experiences and relationships, these things that are ultimately not tangible, right, Probably the most impactful and important things to our human existence.
Whether we like, you know, we can sit here and talk about material goods, and we talk about money, etc., etc.
But when it comes down to it, what are the things that you treasure most?
And it is not only usually those experiences, but those shared experiences with other people, okay?
That is our reality.
But let's continue.
Mind has the ability to create space and time just like it does in dreams.
And in schizophrenics, anyone who may be a doctor realizes that those patients see people right beside them and reality, just like this, just as real as you and I right now.
But that's just part of the equation.
Again, you have to look at what's going on in science, not just with the experiments, but in terms of observation.
So, it turns out that biocentrism may be the only rational way to explain the structure of the universe itself.
So the cosmos, it turns out, has a long list of traits that make it appear as if everything was exactly tailor-made just for us.
And some are calling this the Goldilocks Principles after the old nursery tale of the three bears who try different bowls of porridge.
Some of the bowls are too hot, some are too cold.
And the bears also try different chairs and beds.
And each time the third bear finds that everything is just right.
So likewise, the cosmos has an incredibly unlikely list of traits that make it not To this, not to that, for life to exist.
So, for instance, the Big Bang.
If it was one part and a millionth more powerful, it would have rushed out too fast for galaxies and worlds to be here.
Again, the result, no us.
If the strong nuclear force would decrease by 2%, atomic nuclei would not hold together.
Plain vanilla hydrogen would be the only element in the universe.
Again, if the gravitational constant were decreased just a slight, just a hair, stars, including the sun, wouldn't ignite.
There are over 200 parameters so exact.
These could be any number, anything, but they're exactly just right for life to exist.
And again, you look at that, and the idea that it is all by chance...
And there is nothing, quote-unquote, invisible to our reality that we, we as conscious beings, have a part in is ludicrous.
I mean, think about the numbers he's talking about, you know, and the Goldilocks principle.
Yeah, it's a fairy tale.
And so, again, if you tweak any of them, you never existed.
So none of these are predicted by any theories, and they all seem exactly carefully to allow for life.
And of course, you know, it's been hijacked by intelligent design folks, but it doesn't mitigate the problem of why these constants are all exactly one way when they could be millions of other parameters.
So, one way is, you know, is to say God did it.
You know, and the only scientific explanation is something called the so-called anthropic principle, which says that, you know, we must find these conditions because if we're alive, what else could we find?
Well, of course, that really isn't an explanation.
You know, that's unless you say there are an infinite number of universes.
And we just happen to live in the one lucky one where all the parameters...
See, I like how he takes on the infinite universe theory.
All the parameters are exactly right.
And again, you know, just one in a gazillion.
Certainly we can do better than that.
So obviously no universe that would allow for life could possibly exist from a biocentric point of view.
The universe and all of its parameters simply reflect the spatial temporal logic of the animal observer.
So it turns out the long-sought-after theory of everything is really just merely missing one important component that was too close to us to have noticed.
So some of the thrill that came with the announcement of the human genome had been mapped, or that...
That we're understanding the Big Bang.
It rests in our desire for completeness and totality.
So these comprehensive theories, all of them, feel right now to take into account one critical factor, and that is that we're creating them.
We're the biological creature that fashions the stories, that makes the observations, and it gives names to things.
We're creating them.
Now listen, there are people outward.
Outwardly, you know, talking about creating reality.
I know that Mossad clip, all right, has gone super mega viral, the 60 Minutes clip about, you know, we're the main actors and the world is our stage, etc., etc.
Far from the first person slash organization to talk about those things.
Now, even when you look at the law of attraction and the quote-unquote secret, there's a lot to that.
I totally and completely believe that I've manifested certain things in my life, but it's not just from thought, it's from action.
And I think it's so important to acknowledge that there is a biological slash consciousness spiritual aspect to reality itself, that they cannot exist without each other.
But let's let Mr. Lanza here continue.
Therein lies the great expanse of our errors.
And that is that science hasn't confronted the one thing that's most familiar and most mysterious.
And that is, of course, consciousness.
So for several centuries, a single mindset has dominated scientific thought.
This model has had countless insights and applications that have transformed all of our lives.
But it's now reached the end of its useful life.
This old model proposes that the universe was until recently just a lifeless collection of particles just bouncing around each other.
And they observed, they were following these predetermined rules that were mysterious in their origin.
And the universe was presented like this watch that had somehow wound up and that now is unwinding and allowing for a little quantum uncertainty, will unwind in a semi-predictable way.
Of course, there are lots of problems with this paradigm, some that are obvious, others that are really mentioned, but just as fundamental.
But the overarching problem involves life.
How life arose originally is still an unknown process, even though we can follow it and apprehend what's been going on since through Darwinian mechanisms.
The bigger problem is that life contains consciousness, which is, to say the least, poorly understood.
So consciousness isn't just a problem though for us biologists.
It's a problem for physics.
And there's nothing in physics that can explain, as you've already heard over and over, how a group of molecules in the brain creates consciousness.
And by the way, we also have a push for the idea that somehow we can recreate conscious digitally.
So there's the suppression of the idea that, you know, It can't be replicated.
We constantly talk about consciousness not being able to be created.
At least it has never been successfully publicly created in a lab.
Now, at the same time, you've got, years ago even, that one Google engineer that came out and said that the AI that they had was absolutely conscious.
Now, whether or not...
You know, it fooled that guy into making it believe it's conscious.
It's not a conscious thing.
I'm sorry.
And even Kurzweil, which we focus on a lot in the transhumanist discussion, in his book The Age of Spiritual Machines, never says they actually gain consciousness, but they are clever enough that they will convince us that they gain consciousness.
So really what's happening right now is...
We are subverting this idea of consciousness by creating an artificial replica while at the same time still not acknowledging the importance of real consciousness slash biology in the very fabric of reality, which is what this guy is discussing.
Okay?
It's very subversive.
It's not so good.
So the beauty of the sunset, the taste of a delicious meal, these are all mysteries of science, how we subjectively feel that.
So how can something...
In neuroscience, we can pin down in the brain where parts of these occur.
But what's really worse is that science can't explain how consciousness arrives from matter.
So our understanding of this most basic phenomenon is virtually nil.
Interestingly, most of the models of physics don't even recognize this as a problem.
But let's put aside all the life and consciousness issues.
The current model scientific paradigm leaves a lot to be desired when coming to try to explain the fundamentals of our universe.
The universe, indeed, all the laws of nature themselves just suddenly popped out of nothing one day for no apparent reason.
And we call this Titanic event the Big Bang.
And we don't even begin to understand the Big Bang, even though we keep tinkering with all the different parameters in expansion, for instance.
But again, the Big Bang, we all know, is really not an explanation at all.
At some point, virtually, everyone has thought, this doesn't really work.
This doesn't really explain anything fundamentally.
Not really.
Boom!
Boom!
Diddly!
See, again, one of the reasons I had to play this.
He's like, come on.
The Big Bang?
Is anybody really serious about that?
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So when it comes right down to it, science is amazingly good at figuring out how the parts work.
But what eludes us is the big picture.
We create these exquisite technologies from our ever-expanding knowledge of the physical processes.
We do badly in just one area, which unfortunately encompasses all bottom-line issues.
And that is, what is the nature of this thing we call reality?
This universe as a whole.
In any honest summary of the current state of explaining the universe as a whole, it's a swamp.
And this Everglade is one where alligators of common sense have to be evaded at every turn.
So some scientists insist that the theory of everything is just around the corner and that we'll eventually know everything any day now.
And this isn't going to happen.
And it hasn't happened for a reason.
And that is because we've shunted a very critical component out of our view.
And that component, of course, is consciousness.
And it's not just a small item.
It's not like anything else.
Indeed, it's nothing like anything else.
Let me just stop it right there and really think about it.
We're being promised so much through artificial intelligence where we've already been given numerous examples that this is a programmed thing.
All right, that has parameters and is being controlled, right?
Again, one of my favorite, well, I mean, I love a lot of Go Gold Bordella, but they got a great song out there, The Super Theory of Super Everything, right?
And this guy's talking about that theory of everything, but he's telling you right now, we're never going to actually find it or reveal it unless we reveal what consciousness is.
And there is a vested interest out there, no matter what you believe spiritually, religiously, to keep humanity down and make individuals think that they have no power, that they are not special.
Essentially, that humans are nothing more than animals if that.
That's where all this other stuff leads to.
All right?
Not that you are.
You know, a special being of consciousness that reality cannot exist without a part of.
That's the real interconnection.
Not that good and evil exist, which they do, which is part of that conscious and unconscious reality.
I'm going to let him finish up.
I think there's about two more minutes in this.
And then I'm going to skip over to that just one section in Part 2. Again, maybe we will watch the entire Part 2 in another watch-along for this video.
I really do enjoy these type of videos where I share with somebody who's obviously way smarter than me and way more accomplished than me their lectures on what the nature of reality truly is.
Consciousness is awareness, it's perception, and in an utter mystery, we think it somehow just arises from goo.
So how did inert random bits of carbon ever morph into that Chinese guy who always wins the hot dog eating contest?
So in short, the attempt to explain the universe, its origins, its parameters, and what's really going on requires us to understand how the observer, us, or how our presence plays a role.
So at first, this may seem impossible, since much of consciousness still is mysterious.
But as we shall see, we can use what we know and what we are increasingly learning to formulate models of the universe that make more sense for the first time.
So, undeniably, it's the biological creature that makes the observations, that creates the theories.
And our entire education system, indeed the construction of language itself, revolves around that bottom-line mindset that assumes there's a separate universe out there, which each of us individually arrives at on a very temporary basis.
It's further assumed that we accurately perceive this external, pre-existing reality, and we play little or no role in its appearance.
However, starting in the 1920s, the results of experiments have started to show just the opposite.
And that's so important.
That's so important.
Literally what he just said is that there are those trying to sell you on the predetermination.
And yet that's not the case.
Instead, it seems that we really do have free will.
And free will is a huge, huge part of what we are as humanity.
So the observer, it turns out, critically influences the outcome.
An electron, again, as I mentioned earlier, can be both a particle and a wave.
But how, and more importantly, where that particle will be located depends on the actual act of observation itself.
And again, this is most famously illustrated in the two-hole experiment, which has been performed so many times in so many variations that it's conclusively been proven that if you watch a subatomic particle or a bit of light pass through two slits in a barrier, it will behave like a particle.
And it creates these solid-looking hits on a barrier that the physicists can measure.
And so, like a bullet, it goes through one hole.
But again, if you don't observe its trajectory, the particle then exhibits the behavior of a wave and can go through more than one hole at the same time.
And since then, the list of paradoxes and intractable problems has continued to grow, starting with those accompanying the Big Bang.
bang, for instance,
how could the entire universe just arise out of nothingness? . how could the entire universe just arise out of nothingness? .
Thank you.
Thank you.
Scientists in France shot photons into an apparatus and they showed that what they did could retroactively actually change something that had already happened in the past.
So what happened is they put these photons into the apparatus, and it had to go through a fork.
And as it went through the fork, it had to decide whether it was going to be a wave or a particle.
And then it went on its way, and later on there was another fork, and the experimenter had the ability to click on a switch, an electronic switch, to decide what to do.
And what that experimenter did then, right now in the present, actually changed what that particle did at that fork.
That's real.
We live in that same world.
Now, physicists and scientists like to get out of this by simply saying there's two worlds.
There's this small world, you know, that applies to quantum phenomena, and then there's this macro world where everything's different.
So the laws of the universe are different for you and I, and somewhere, I don't know whether it's here or there, the laws of physics change.
And it turns out that that has been shown, not only does it not make sense, but it's been shown experimentally to not be correct.
There was a paper actually in Nature last year that actually showed that entangled particles, when they were separated, actually were able to act indeed as if there was no space or time between them.
There was an experiment that was done with these molecules called buckyballs, these huge carbon-60 molecules, and they are actually in the macro world, and they actually turned out to exhibit the same quantum properties.
So what I think is important there is that he's acknowledging that this phenomenon is large-scale and he's not tapping into the multiverse.
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I want to remind everybody all the documentary films are free of charge.
I'd love for you to share those as well.
Folks, it's not about left or right.
It's always about right and wrong.
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