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For the next hour, we're going to be talking to Dr. Peter McCullough, somebody who was really vital during the COVID-19 44 nightmare and beyond to shed truth on what was really going on and what continues to go on.
You're not going to want to miss this one.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
And we are back.
We are joined by Dr. Peter McCullough.
First of all, thank you for spending an hour with us, sir.
It is a pleasure.
I briefly got to meet and interview you all the way back at the Reawaken America Tour in Tennessee, and that was quite some time ago.
We've come a pretty far ways.
Now, I would say that the Trump administration, especially on the way out, was very imperfect in handling what was going on.
I think that Operation Warp Speed was more than an utter failure.
We can get into that in a moment.
But with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. being named as the HHS secretary, I think that's a huge meaculpa and a big step in the right direction.
So where do you think we are right now in regards to this whole thing, especially when we are talking about RFK Jr., where we are, you know, basically in policy?
I know we're still just under two months from him being swear in, but that could be a big change in the structure that we've had over the years, not just during what happened in COVID, but medicine in general.
I agree.
Thanks for having me on the program.
Think about how important health and human services is as a cabinet position.
Over a dozen reporting sub-agencies, hundreds of thousands of employees, affects a huge sector of the economy, that is healthcare and biopharmaceuticals, in vitro diagnostics, medical devices.
It's massive.
And previously, we had Alex Azar.
He was brought on by, he was a former president of U.S. Lilly, U.S. Operations, that division.
He was brought in by Obama.
He was kept on by Trump.
He was the HH secretary all the way through Operation Warp Speed, introducing the vaccines.
And then he's retired.
And then Biden brings in Xavier Behera.
Bashira is just a lifelong politician.
Both are lawyers, by the way.
Bashira just continues what Azar did.
There was essentially no change.
So in healthcare, we didn't have any changes in healthcare policy, no critical reviews.
Now bring in Robert F. Kennedy.
Boy, is that going to be different.
So he's not a drug company CEO.
He's not a career politician.
He's got many, many healthcare and environmental concerns.
And if confirmed, which I don't think is a given right now, but if confirmed, I think there's an opportunity, Jason, for a big impact.
And I think that even goes beyond big pharma.
Obviously, one of the things that was kind of brought into the Trump campaign was this idea of maha, make America healthy again.
So this could really range across a broad number of issues, which is a great thing.
I think you are right.
It's not a given.
There is going to be a lot of opposition there.
That being said, there are some other picks that I am really happy about it.
Don't get me wrong.
There are a few that concern me.
But again, certainly a step in the right direction.
Now, a lot of people have talked about this idea of retribution.
I hate that word.
I hate it when people talk about quote-unquote Nuremberg 2.0.
I don't think that's a realistic thing.
But what I would like to see is at least the slightest bit of accountability when it comes to what has happened, not only over the last five years, but with this corrupt system in general.
Now, we have this doge coming in, the Department of Government efficiency.
This may go in the way of cutting a lot of these agencies and bureaucracy and hopefully bring about transparency.
That's yet to be seen.
But when we do talk about some type of criminal accountability, I mean, really, what's the farthest we've gotten with our Congress and Senate?
We've had these hearings.
We've had DAZIC and others behind closed doors.
But certainly we haven't stopped these methods that are still going on.
We haven't stopped the language of gain of function, et cetera.
We've not stopped this, you know, I would say transnational way of doing things with corporations as subsidiaries, right?
We now have Redfield coming out and saying, what?
Lab Claims and Cover-Ups00:09:12
Oh, well, you know, it could have come from a U.S. place, referring to Chapel Hill in the origins of the virus, which is what we've been talking about really since the inception of this thing.
So when we are talking about that aspect of it, where do you think we are and where do you think we'll go?
Will we get any accountability?
You know, I would say this much.
Let's take some, where there's some positive objective steps.
Five states' attorneys generals have sued Pfizer for deceptive trade practices.
That could expand to all 50 states and to Pfizer-Moderna Novavax.
So that's something hard legally.
We're starting to see some of these vaccine exemption denial cases actually win in court with settlements going to the plaintiffs, people who lost their jobs because they submitted a religious exemption from taking a COVID vaccine.
But when we get to the origins of SARS-CoV-2, the House Select Subcommittee led by Chair Brad Wenstrup, who's a doctor, we've had testimony on Capitol Hill.
We've had our agencies now issue statements on their websites like National Security Agency, which says that likely SARS-CoV-2 came out of the Wuhan lab, but with a low probability.
And then they always say it's not a bioweapon.
It's not a bioweapon.
And I think they need to put that in there because we have a UN agreement that we won't create bioweapons.
But as your leadin suggested, gain of function research is going on in labs all over the country.
Biden issued in May of 2024 very, very weak oversight over biolabs.
Our government is funding what's called dual pathogen of concern research.
So these pathogens that have a dual purpose for both causing injury to populations, but potentially leading to treatments.
This research is going on.
Now, author Jim Haslam, if you follow him, he's just released a book.
He's done a lot of investigative research.
Rand Paul has picked this up on Twitter.
Haslam has concluded that the National Allergy Immunology Branch had a viral operation going on in Hamilton, Montana.
That's what we're talking about.
And in a paper by Vande Moreland in 2018, a lot of people missed this paper.
I missed it originally.
They were actually working with primordial SARS-CoV-2 in Hamilton, Montana, in this lab, which is on 36 acres.
It's got multiple buildings.
It's got 450 employees.
This is a big operation in Montana.
They had actually taken the Wuhan Institute of Virology 1 SARS-like virus from Ralph Barrick in New York City, North Carolina, Chapel Hill.
And they say it right in the paper, we got the clone from Barrick.
And they were trying to infect bats with SARS-CoV-2.
They were trying to get an Egyptian fruit bat to get sick.
Now, I can tell you, the only reason to do this, the only reason to take a virus that was developed in Wuhan, China, and try to get a bat to carry it in the United States was to create a transmissible live attenuated viral vaccine.
This is a stunning revelation.
I give a lot of credit to author Jim Haslam, an investigative author who's broken the story.
So when we're talking about this, we are talking about modern-day biowarfare right in our faces.
For some reason, we've kind of let these Bernesian talking points or massaging of the language lessen that and allow the circumvention of not only oversight, but as I've stated earlier, any type of criminal prosecution after the fact.
How do we get there?
Can we get there?
That's a real question.
Again, I don't like the pie-in-the-sky dreams.
I love a lot of the rhetoric out of the campaign.
I'd love to believe they're going to get rid of the IRS and tariffs are going to take us away too.
I don't necessarily think that's going to be the case.
I would hope that at the very minimum, you get a cleaning of house of the Fauci's, the BRICS, the subordinates of the world.
But once again, how do you push forward for that type of accountability?
I mean, we've obviously informed a certain number of people in this country and around the world that this is indeed modern-day biowarfare.
But it's still not a mainstream talking point by any means.
And really, that's the first step towards any type of accountability or prosecution.
No?
You know, I'd agree with that.
I'd say that there's these biological threats being developed.
Even if our agencies say they're not bioweapons, they clearly, you know, with the case of, you know, SARS-CoV-2 got the entire world sick.
Now that we know that the primordial virus was in a government U.S. NAIAAD lab in Montana, this is not a university lab.
This is not a Chinese lab.
This is a U.S. government lab.
It starts to make it clear that our government was in the business of creating SARS-CoV-2 and probably creating many other viruses for various reasons.
And the whole world got sick and some people died.
The government then tried to cover this up.
Obviously, Fauci really, through his tweets and his texting and his emails and phone calls, clearly was covering up.
He was deceiving the country.
He knew about this the entire time.
He knew about the creation of SARS-CoV-2.
So it brings up two potential crimes.
One is fraud, that at least Fauci and everybody in this circle lied to the country.
And then the second one is mass negligent homicide.
People actually died from this virus.
And if our government would have leveled with us that they created it, potentially we could have gotten a head start on therapeutics or other interventions.
We were misled for 18 months saying that it came out of somewhere out of a fish market in Wuhan.
And we're greatly misled.
The WHO was in on it.
They wanted Peter Desick to represent the investigation.
Peter Desick was part of the creation of the virus.
They rejected Rear Admiral Brett Gerrar's invitation for three separate U.S. scientists to go.
So the WHO is on the cover-up: the Wuhan Lab, the Hamilton Montana Lab, Ralph Barrick, and UNC Chapel Hill.
So a web has been created.
What we would need is we would need the assignment of a special prosecutor, and then we'd need an investigation at three levels.
One level is a target who is sufficiently involved to be a target.
And that would include Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins, David Morins, Ralph Barrick, Dr. Peter Desick, Xing Ling Li in China, at least.
Those are targets.
Now, the next level would be subjects, people who could have been involved, and maybe there were no wrongdoing, but they need to be considered.
And then lastly, there's witnesses.
There's going to be a ton of witnesses who saw this go down.
So if we saw a special prosecutor or several of them, maybe one on the origins of the virus, two on suppression of early treatment, and three on the vaccines.
If we had three special prosecutors going and we had it organized, that would be a really strong arm of justice.
I'm not seeing that type of impetus anywhere in the government right now.
A lot of people just want to put this behind them.
They don't want to talk about it.
With the Trump administration so far, I don't see anything developing here at all.
Which is really, really unfortunate because, again, in order to move forward, I think we do have to do those type of things.
I'm not saying we're coming after people in a malicious manner.
We're not even coming after political enemies.
This isn't about right or left.
Like you said, you talked about the World Health Organization.
I mean, you look at what just happened with O'Keefe Media Group, where you have this admission from yet another high-level official that they had no idea whether the shots would stop the transmission of the virus or what the side effects were going to be.
That they basically had talking points and they went with those talking points.
We're going to take a quick break, and I want to move from the virus itself to the shots and that program, because again, you have something that has plausible deniability and compartmentalization really cooked into the mix.
Messenger RNA Mysteries00:15:00
And the question is, can you get accountability for something like that?
Back with Dr. Peter McCullough after this.
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Now, in large part, we've talked about the virus itself.
We've talked about the officials surrounding it, the narrative, etc.
I think that you're rather generous when you say this could be negligence.
I think there is a lot of evidence out there, unfortunately, that says that there was some maliciousness, if not a lot of maliciousness, associated with this.
And the other issue is, like you said, they lied about everything from the beginning.
That much we know.
And there was one push that there was going to be some type of a shot or quote-unquote vaccine that would be the only thing that could solve this.
And then the technology, in large part, that they decided to go with was something called mRNA.
There were exceptions to that.
There were also the vector-based shots.
But, you know, this is still on Moderna's own website, and anybody can check it out.
It's amazing with all the internet scrubbing or that they keep it up here so arrogantly.
But this shows you that this was a military project from the start.
When I say this, the Messenger RNA Therapeutics, this is where DARPA gets awarded a $25 million grant that puts this together.
And right at the bottom, you'll see that it is part of the Adept and Protect program.
It's not a secret.
It never was.
It also tells you that it will enable the prevention and therapeutics prophylactic options, in other words, against that.
And they want to deploy this, whether or not it's biological or it's actually a biowarfare within a couple days of sequencing the virus, still on their website.
And then that over the years expands, again, on their website to the Strategic Collaborators Program with AstraZeneca, Merck, Vertex, BARTA, which is the medical DARPA, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Karolinka Institute, and the Institute Pastor.
Again, all right there in your face.
And this is the kind of, really, in my opinion, biomedical techno-fascism that's extremely dangerous.
Because when you're taking a technology, and we've had Robert Malone on the program that was associated with Merck, and he says out of the gates, you know, when you're ever doing this, intelligence agencies are involved.
They take this technology that's patents run up, they give it to DARPA, they give it to a zombie company like Moderna, and then they're able to run wild with it.
And we just kind of have to take their word for it, right?
With this messenger RNA, spike proteins, the exact sequencing that's used during this.
And yet we still have approvals for boosters.
I believe just a few months ago, we had approval for that 10th booster, Peter.
So when you see something like this, can you really describe how troubling it is?
And once again, because it is militarized, how do you get accountability?
How do you get the truth when we're still arguing not only about aspects of World War II, Vietnam, the war on terror, you name it?
Boy, we nailed it when we coined the term biopharmaceutical complex for my book, Courage to Face COVID-19.
The biopharmaceutical complex, you just showed a little piece of it, is how these companies and foundations and the military and other government agencies, how they work together in a syndicate.
And there's so much money flowing between these entities now that it's almost impossible to stop the development of this biotechnology.
Now throw in the fact that the government is buying the product in the end.
You don't even have to sell a messenger RNA product.
The government buys the products, at least the COVID-19 products for sure.
And that in some circumstances, their use is mandated.
Sadly, the one population group that now has mandated use of messenger RNA is children.
So children that want to go to school, their parents want to go to school, they have to take the full vaccine schedule with effectively no exemptions.
In California, New York, and Connecticut, the kids are effectively being forced to take messenger RNA.
Other states like Texas, where we have philosophical, religious, and medical exemptions, far more parents just opt out and say, listen, no COVID shots for my kids.
And with messenger RNA, and if you actually go to that initial document, that press release I just had, they never refer to it as a vaccine.
It's always referred to as gene therapy because that's what it is.
And, you know, Dr. Peter Doshi of the British Medical Journal did a great job of describing that at hearings of how the language was changed to include this technology.
If you look at the institutes that we just went through, you had two involved in highly classified projects with the government.
You had very powerful NGOs.
You had authoritative source medical institutions.
And then you had these pharmaceutical companies that are worth hundreds of billions, perhaps trillions of dollars at this point.
Now, when we are talking about money, another one of these aspects that I don't think really gets enough attention is that Tesla actually teamed up with Curvac to make the RNA micro factories.
Here is Musk right there in front of the machines that printed these up.
During that time, his net worth rose 600%.
He actually made a killing on these things.
These things have now become a super important product.
And, you know, he's kind of backpedaled quite a bit, you know, deleting how they're safe and effective.
And, you know, he's come out a bit.
But, you know, this guy is a military industrial complex contractor.
You just saw SpaceX taking over Boeing.
It's something that's never discussed, that this guy made a lot of money printing these things up.
And I think that really does need to be addressed because it's not like Tesla won't do something like this in the future.
Like you said, these are programs that essentially give these companies no liability and they have huge profit margins, right?
Because they're mandated in most places, not only in the country, but in the Western world.
So how do we stop things like that, right?
I mean, these are things that are on the peripheral that aren't discussed in the mainstream media, let alone the alternative media in most cases.
Boy, so many important observations there.
You know, CureVac is the single greatest holder of messenger RNA patents.
There's over 9,000 patents on messenger RNA.
So no single person, by the way, invented messenger RNA.
Not even close to that.
The real inventors of messenger RNA work in these big companies like CureVax, Sanify, BioNTech, and Moderna.
It's big bucks for these companies.
It's been big bucks for Musk.
You're right.
When vaccines come out, especially routine ones, everybody in the entire country, the entire world becomes a customer.
Can you imagine a product where everybody in the whole world has to buy your product?
And by the way, you don't even have to sell it because the governments pay for it or insurance companies pay for it.
Every company in the world wants to get in on messenger RNA.
They want to get in on vaccines because it is super lucrative.
I am hoping that that's going to change again with this incoming administration with people like RFK Jr., et cetera.
But in a lot of cases, the damage has been done.
Let's be honest.
Many people took two, three.
Some people are still taking them today.
Apparently, there's a market.
You know, it's pretty unbelievable, but I can't even go down some of my main drags here in Iowa without seeing large-scale signs to come in and get your COVID and flu shot at the same time.
Two little band-aids on the arm.
It's all cutesy.
You know, sometimes you'll even see the free flu shot, free COVID shot with insurance at the Walgreens.
I imagine that more than likely they're going to get taken off the market in the United States soon, especially if Bobby Kennedy is in there.
But like you said, these things, especially when the government is subsidizing them, have a huge profit margin, again, with no downside.
In reality, what is the process to changing that?
Right?
We all talk about in the 1980s when basically they got liability protection.
But even at that time, in the early 80s, what was the schedule for a lifetime, maybe 10, a dozen vaccines?
Now you have a schedule of literally 70 plus before the kid is in school, before they're five years old.
This is complete insanity.
I would imagine these companies are going to try to go kicking and screaming.
But in your opinion, how do you start regulating them, changing the system?
And definitely, I mean, I don't know why we have a schedule like that in the first place.
You can't convince me that an infant needs a hepatitis vaccine or needs something for, you know, some HPV or gardasil because you might get cancer because there might be an association, et cetera, et cetera.
So how do we start scaling that back?
Because it has to be an incremental thing.
You're not going to be able to cut the head off every dragon day one.
Well, for COVID-19 vaccines, I think we'll need a U.S. Surgeons General report, just like the U.S. Surgeon General report on smoking.
It's got to be because we need something to break this delusion that the medical community is in.
You know, most doctors are still taking shots.
They still think they're safe despite record injuries, disabilities, and deaths.
The Surgeons General report is going to be important.
And all the stakeholders need to be there: the doctors, the academia, the agencies, the vaccine companies, the military.
And when the call is to pull the vaccines off the market, it's just, you know, nobody can say that they didn't know that this was coming.
They're going to have to go.
Fewer and fewer people are taking COVID-19 vaccines.
They are very unpopular.
The public knows they're not safe.
And what's frustrating them is the doctors and the government agencies won't flinch on this.
They are still fronting this safe and effective propaganda.
When it comes to the overall vaccine schedule, you're right.
It's been growing at an astronomic rate at age one year.
I counted up.
I made a tweet and a little graphic on this.
16 different products at once, 16 in the baby's arms and legs.
Now, some of them are in combination products like MMR, musilums, or bella, or DPT, diphtheriotitis pertussis.
But the bottom line is it's 16 different diseases being vaccinated for it at once.
Anybody with common sense would think maybe some child's not going to react well, have a febrile seizure, get sick, could have sudden infant death in the crib or end up with neuropsychiatric damage.
Autism is a great concern.
It's just too much.
And we've come to a breaking point.
In fall of 2023, World Council for Health, which is a physician-led, evidence-based, consensus-driven organization, said, listen, full stop on the childhood vaccine schedule for healthy children.
Five studies show a healthy child born today is less likely to have asthma, eczema, knee protempanostomy tubes, attention deficit disorder, neuropsychiatric disorder, like autism spectrum disorder, seizures.
The kids are healthier.
That is a healthy child born today.
Now, if a child is born with some terrible form of lung disease and needs the modest respiratory protection from respiratory vaccines, fine.
I don't think anybody would have a problem with that.
But I think where we're going is now is to streamline, instead of giving all the vaccines in everybody, giving vaccines for people who really would have a compelling case and need them.
We're going to take a quick break.
When we come back, I want to talk about the vaccine injured and what we're doing to mitigate some of those effects and where Dr. McCullough thinks some of the long-term effects are going to be and what we're now seeing as it's been three plus years when most people have taken these shots.
Organize Your Finances00:02:19
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Vaccine Injured: The Body's Struggle00:11:56
So let's talk about the vaccine injured.
Obviously, the myocarditis, the strokes, heart attacks, those issues have been pretty well documented.
A lot of people are still concerned about the long-term effects of that.
As, you know, myocarditis wasn't something you just scoffed at prior to this, although that's been marginalized.
There are a number of other neurological disorders out there that have exploded.
A lot of people have talked about the quote-unquote turbo cancers.
We're now, like I said, three plus years out.
When you're talking long-term, what do you think you are actually seeing?
What are the hopes of mitigating some of these things?
And do those things of mitigation really go beyond a better diet, supplementation, exercise, the standard things that we would try to do to be healthy in the first place?
You're right.
It's amazing to think about this, but we're actually now four years.
We're going to close four years from the release of the vaccines, December 10th, 2020.
I wrote an op-ed in August of 2020 in The Hill, and I said this was a gamble.
Pfizer Moderna were the genetic code for the lethal part of the virus called the spike protein.
This is the worst idea ever to inject genetic code with no ability to stop it and have it produce an endless quantity of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which is known to damage the heart, the brain, cause blood clots, injured nerves.
It was just the worst idea ever, but yet governments went with it all over the world.
And sure enough, now we're seeing record injuries, disabilities, and deaths.
It's my estimation that about 5% to 10% of the vaccinated population is injured in some way.
They've got some problem.
They don't feel well.
The common ones are post-exertional malaise, loss of mental clarity, small fiber neuropathy, POTS, or posterior orthostatic tachycardia syndrome with heart palpitations and labile blood pressure.
Most of those ones that I just mentioned, that's manageable in the office.
Patients can ease their way through them through some methods I'll go through.
But the big ticket items like myocarditis and heart damage with cardiac arrest or heart failure, blood clots that, you know, in some cases are fatal, various forms of neurologic damage like stroke and Guillaume-Brace syndrome paralysis, and then autoimmune systems, abnormalities like rheumatoid arthritis, Schrogen syndrome.
Those are far more extensive long-term debilitating problems of the vaccine.
You said five years.
I testified in Congress earlier this year, five to 15 years of worry after someone takes a genetic shot like Pfizer and Moderna.
By the way, the safest vaccine was always the non-genetic shot, which is Novavax.
Novavax.
So if I was forced to take a shot, I would take the non-genetic shot, Novavax.
But sadly, our government never featured that.
Despite it getting over the finish line, getting approved, the government never told us about NOMAVAX, only Pfizer and Moderna.
When we are talking about trying to help some of these people, there are a lot of people out there.
And look, you know, I'm not a microbiologist.
I don't necessarily know what I'm seeing when I'm watching a video.
There have been a plethora of things people have said about the shots, right?
I would argue, no matter what, when you're talking about mRNA technology, you're already talking about bio-nanotech.
Whether or not it's gone beyond that, I have no idea.
But at the same time, even that technology, if it is acting in a malicious manner, is going to be hard to get out of your system, especially when it's self-replicating openly and creating these spike proteins when it was openly talked about going beyond the blood-brain barrier, aka these lipid nanoparticles.
So, what are some of the real ways of mitigating this if, in fact, you have had a negative effect or you're just concerned about the future because maybe you haven't had anything negative happen, but long term, you would like this out of your system?
There are certainly people that have talked about different types of supplementation.
I've heard people discuss things like fulvic acid, et cetera.
What are you seeing works?
What doesn't work?
And I know that you're part of groups that are trying to help people deal with being vaccine injured after the fact.
What are you seeing the most success in overall, not just with the supplementation, but practices as well?
The key is to recognize that long COVID and vaccine injury syndromes are caused by the spike protein or the spine on the surface of the virus.
The spike protein is installed in the body after COVID-19 infection to a minor degree, and then it's installed massively after vaccination.
The human body cannot get rid of spike protein on its own.
It just builds up in the body, in the brain, the heart, the blood vessels, causes blood clots.
It's all about the spike protein.
So, myself and Nicholas Holscher at the McCullough Foundation have published a series of papers on this.
Step one is to measure antibodies against the spike protein.
That gives us a proxy of how much spike protein has been in the body or is conceivably still there.
We use the Roche-Alexis extended range antibody test.
It goes from zero to 25,000.
It's very useful.
It's prognostic, less than 1,000, very low-risk patients, progressively over 1,000 higher-risk patients.
So, that's step one: measure spike protein.
Step two is to understand that we have to aid the body in getting rid of the spike protein.
And while you mentioned a lot of supplements, the two supplements where there are data demonstrating that the spike protein is degraded are with natokinase, a derivative of the fermentation of soy, and bromelin, which is derived from the fruit and the stems of pineapple.
So, natokinase and bromelin for sure dissolve the spike protein.
These are critical supplements.
We add a third one in called curcumin, and that blocks some of the spike protein inflammation.
This has been now copyrighted McCullough Protocol, base spike detoxification.
It's the most widely used approach in patients after the vaccine or after COVID.
Or sadly, because the vaccines don't work, they've had both exposures.
Think McCullough Protocol: base spike protein detoxification.
So, obviously, you know, I want to have hope for these people.
There are a lot of doom and gloomers.
There are a lot of people that predicted right out of the gates, right, we were going to have the worst flu season ever, et cetera, et cetera.
Everybody was going to be dropping like flies.
What is the reality when we're talking about numbers of excess mortality due to this thing?
You know, obviously, Edward Dowd has been one of the most outspoken people based in the numbers.
I have not looked at the official numbers in the United States for, say, 2022 through 2024.
I saw no evidence that these hate and lie shots mitigated any death or serious illness.
I'm not sure that the stats even show that.
So, what do the stats show when we are talking about not only excess death, but really excess disease, especially amongst many of the things you were just discussing?
Let's take COVID-19 first.
Our government has us at about 1.2 million deaths with at least a positive test somewhere around that.
There's been adjudication attempts on that, 1.2 million.
And the agreed-upon numbers, about 10%, really died directly due to COVID.
The Italians have looked at their data, they believe it's 3%, but let's generously say 10%.
That means 120,000 Americans really died of acute COVID-19.
It's a tragedy.
You know, a bad flu season would be about 70,000 Americans.
Now, that 120,000 COVID-19 deaths, I think the vast majority could have been saved with McCullough Protocol early treatment.
That is the application of nasal sprays and gargles, antivirals, antibiotics, cortical steroids, aspirin, blood thinners, in an early combination.
Sadly, those who died, virtually everyone died in the hospital.
That tells you something.
No one seemed to die at home.
And then also they didn't receive early treatment, almost 201.
Even Operation Warp Speed products like monoclonal antibodies or Paxlabit or Molipirvir, they can be used in combination.
They could have helped patients, but sadly, people who die receive no treatment.
The second big piece to this is how many people have died from the vaccine.
You know, our current FDA commissioner, Robert Califf, claims the vaccine saved millions of lives.
Now, that's a fraudulent claim because if you look in the consent form of the vaccine, there's no mention that the vaccine saves lives as a benefit.
So that should tell you something right away.
If you actually have to take a vaccine to go to work and you want to know what the benefits are, look in the official government-approved package insert.
No claim of benefit on reducing hospitalization and death.
It just says simply in the past, SARS-CoV-2 has reduced the rates of COVID, those from the original trials.
So, you know, there really is no other proposed benefit for the COVID-19 vaccines.
What about harm?
Our CDC has us at over 19,000 vaccine deaths.
I just reported one today.
Now, a vaccine death is when the doctor has carefully looked at everything, the autopsy, all the data, and the doctor has determined patient died of the vaccine.
Now, of those cases, where again, the determination of death was made before the report was entered, we're at 19,000 deaths, just over 19,000 deaths.
The under-reporting factor for those deaths in U.S. congressional FDA testimony is 30.
That's the multiplier.
That means we're looking at 560,000 Americans have died of COVID-19 vaccination.
It's sad to say, but the remedy for the pandemic, mass vaccination, was worse than the virus itself.
That does certainly seem to be the case.
We've got to take one last break.
When we come back, I really want to talk not just about, again, we talked about maybe accountability, but what systems need to be put into place as a substitute for these things.
You know, I've been doing this a very long time.
A lot of people complain to me, oh, you never offer solutions.
And I often say, well, it's hard to offer solutions when you don't have accountability for the old ones.
Because if you can't admit to the truth and you can't punish those responsible in a meaningful manner, I don't know that you can have new institutions or new operations that are doing the right things.
So we're going to take that break.
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So let's talk about that.
Obviously, we have to put the right people in place, right?
Like I said, RFK Jr., big step in the right direction.
Just like I think with our intelligence system, putting Tulsi Gabbard as the DNI.
These are good things, right?
We want to rein this in somehow.
But are there certain things that we can do that are a substitute that are going to put us in the proper direction?
Obviously, during this, there were a lot of parallel networks that had to be built out of necessity.
You know, you just mentioned the fact that a lot of people were dying in the hospital.
Well, guess what?
People are still getting treated with remdesivir.
I mean, I know that sounds like a wild thing, but it's absolutely true.
It's disturbing.
It's disgusting.
But there are now these parallel networks where you can get ivermectin, you can get budesinide.
Like you said, you can get the nasal sprays, et cetera, et cetera.
You can get the right vitamins.
That was extremely difficult during the height of this thing.
There have been some networks like yours that have been built out of that.
But when we are talking about not just a local level, but a national level, one that is promoted by our government, that's supposed to be for by the people.
What are we looking at?
Well, wellness company is certainly the most scaled version you can think of right now.
They are a national, actually, multinational company providing services all over the world, health education, nutraceuticals and supplements, telemedicine, now prescription drugs, emergency medical kits.
You're right.
People now can be prepared for the next pandemic, COVID, the bird flu, Ebola.
We've prepared people, and people have purchased kits.
They have gotten care online.
That's been a big breakthrough.
But a wellness company needs a lot of help.
I think there should be a lot more entries into the space of others who are providing what's needed.
Americans are not going to be caught flat-footed again.
They're not going to.
People got burned the first time and they started to get sick and there's no medicine in the house.
Get a wellness company, emergency kit, and don't get burned.
So when we are telling you, you know, you just mentioned the possibility of the next pandemic.
You are right in the sense that there are a lot of people out there that have woken up, right?
But at the same time, there are still people toeing this line, okay?
And there are still people that are going to go lockstep what the media, the television, the politicians tell them.
When we look at organizations like the World Health Organization, unfortunately, really their power has only been strengthened.
A lot of people have talked about this quote-unquote pandemic treaty.
Even without that, they just had the summit of the future, which literally goes after the air we breathe, the water we drink, just about every resource under this guise of global governance and global benevolence.
When we are talking about these organizations, the World Health Organization in particular, what do we do to detach from them?
Because like you said, on a large-scale level, those organizations, the WEF also in particular, have been exposed to a lot of people.
A lot of people are rightfully concerned.
But I don't see the United States out of the UN.
I don't see that building vacated in the middle of New York City.
I don't see after this O'Keefe report where the WHO again is being exposed for being vitally corrupt.
Anything going on there, Mr. McCullough?
So what do you think we do about that?
You know, I can tell you at this point in time that people are going to have to draw within themselves.
I don't think we can expect any government agencies or government officials to save us.
People are going to have to be prepared for the next pandemic.
People are going to have to have the courage and the motivation to decline further vaccination.
If that means moving from states that are forcing vaccines to states that are allowing exemptions, I think people will need to make those choices.
This biopharmaceutical complex is running the table.
We're seeing the rise of alternative media, Jason, like especially your show, for example.
People are going to be searching for information, searching for sources of truth.
I know from the very beginning, I've been telling America and the world the truth, that the virus was treatable, treatments being suppressed.
I told immediately, I told the world the vaccines weren't safe, and these are the reasons why.
And I was right.
I was the first to publish and promulgate the most widely used treatment protocol for acute COVID-19, McCullough Protocol.
Now, the most widely used detoxification protocol called McCullough Protocol-based spike protein detoxification.
I've helped form the Wellness Company, which is a national platform as a solution.
So, like you, Jason, people have said, Well, Dr. McCullough, you're critical of the government response.
I said, I've also been providing solutions, and I think that's what America wants.
Well, again, I think information is power.
I think that you have to look at reality, right?
There's so many people out there that go, Well, I don't want to know this.
I just want to listen to them because why would they lie to me?
And you go through numerous reasons why, and they have lied to you, unfortunately.
Still don't want to hear that.
You know, we just talked about some of the global governance organizations.
What we really didn't get to, other than slightly, were the NGOs, right?
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundations of the world, et cetera.
They're certainly not the only ones.
But talk about a sweet deal.
Number one, you get to be a philanthropist.
Number two, you get to exert political power globally.
Number three, you get to be tax exempt, and then you get to invest that money in all sorts of goodies and benefit financially.
Don't we have to, I mean, forget about just Bill Gates and that foundation.
Don't we have to change that system in general so we don't have this undue influence?
Because when we're talking about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, we are talking about global medicine.
It's not just the United States.
We are talking about our global food supply.
And we are talking about things that really intertwine in many cases, especially when we talk about that foundation in particular.
Right.
Foundations have become very strong.
You mentioned Gates Foundation, but also there's Rockefeller Foundation, Wellcome Trust, these NGOs, Gabby, Unitaib.
We need some type of charters on percent control of global operations, for instance, of World Health Organization, or we need some ability to curb this wild investment in biotechnology, allowing a foundation to invest in biotech that it pushes through a World Health Organization, and then they reap the profits.
Right now, it's completely collusional.
There is, in a sense, essentially, it's racketeering going on.
And so, we'll need the long arm of justice to come in and start to protect people around the world.
The NGOs effectively are running the table within the biopharmaceutical complex.
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