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Sept. 15, 2024 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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Are They Lying To Us About Polaris Dawn?
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Jason Burmess has the power of information.
Today's News Talk TNT It is time to talk Elon Muskernuts, SpaceX, Starlink, and beyond.
We've got Derek Brose to do it.
He is The Conscious Resistance.
You can find him at theconsciousresistance.com and his work over at thelastamericanvagabond.com.
He's also going to be giving us some on the ground journalism over there in the coming weeks, starting with the Summit of the Future, which I believe we will also get into in this segment.
But Derek, I want to talk Elon.
Because this absurd timeline was put out this week, or last week, where, you know, Elon with like one of those Dogecoin Johnny Nonsense accounts that he promotes.
It gave this timeline of when we're going to Mars.
And it said in two years, we're going to send some unmanned ships, and if the landing process goes well, well dick-a-dick-a-do, magic style, we're going to send human beings to Mars.
In four years.
Folks, that's before 2030.
It's the most absurd thing I've ever seen.
And then in 20 years, it's basically starting to build the colonies on Mars.
None of that's real, folks.
I mean, it's as cartoon level as it gets.
What will happen in the next four to six years, and is happening right now, is an artificial skin has been built, an information skin, around the planet that not only transmits different types of information, but receives different types of information.
And we're gonna talk about What that information does right now.
Derek, thank you so much for joining us.
I know that you have been one of the outspoken critics of Elon Musk for some time.
What are your thoughts when it comes to this idea that we're going to Mars?
Yeah.
I mean, I have, I share the same skepticism as you, man.
I mean, I, I hadn't seen that announcement, but two years, four years, I, it's all baloney.
I mean, I, to me, this whole discussion, and I know that we're going to have a range of listeners here, folks who would say, if space isn't real at all, the earth is flat between like that and just don't trust NASA.
I definitely don't trust NASA.
I'll say that.
Um, but all this discussion about going to space and going back to space.
And of course we have the space force created during Trump.
I think it's, in addition to the things you're pointing out, it's just the military-industrial complex at a new level.
I mean, whether or not any of these programs are real or not, or they ever deliver on anything, it's definitely a great way to tell the people, we're working on projects and then inject billions of dollars Towards those projects.
And I think in some ways, and we've talked about this in the years past, and I know you've reported on too, but special access projects, black budget stuff, like all that is tied up in there with the whole space conversation.
So it could just be more ways to amp up that, you know, that race to space kind of thing and justify, uh, not in this case, you know, if it's private, it's SpaceX, but still we know Elon, as I think we're going to talk about is such a huge military contractor.
So it's not like he's just doing this all on his own.
It's a partnership with the U S government.
And if NASA says they're going to space, whether it's spacewalks or going to Mars or Moon, I think in many ways it's just about ramping up the military industrial complex, getting them budgets that most people are not paying attention to, that they can use to further that total information awareness that they're after.
I am of the belief that we are, to some extent, in space.
That does not mean that I trust NASA.
I do not believe that the Earth is flat or that all of space is fake!
And here's the funny thing.
So Elon put that announcement out, and that's my number one tweet probably the last few months, is me just saying, none of this is real.
People need to grow the F up.
Humans aren't going to Mars.
But it shows how amplified that one is, when I know that a lot of those people are that type of people.
Just think, everything's CGI, and everything's fake.
I don't believe that.
Now, opposed to that, When I was looking up to just try to explain to people how ludicrous it was that we were going to Mars.
I think it's something like 38 times the moon.
And the moon itself, if you believe we went up that way, we're talking about almost a quarter million miles away.
It varies from what people to believe in motion.
To put that in perspective, and if this is real, what I was doing was I was trying to look up, Derek, how far the Russians had gotten in space before Apollo or even after Apollo on their own.
And for those that don't know, it is under 300 miles.
Okay, so just under, you know, I mean, again, just think about that, folks.
It's not even 250.
It's like more like a thousand times away and then back.
It's ludicrous.
Even NASA astronauts, after the fact, have not gone more than, I believe, 400 miles.
It's just under that mark.
Now, during the Apollo program, it's more than that.
They're about to do a spacewalk, which is just under 1,000 miles, which is 900 miles.
Now, look, if that's real, and I'm not saying it is or isn't, and SpaceX is involved in that launch with one of their Dragon programs, That's somewhat significant.
That's based in reality.
But the reality is that what SpaceX is really doing is not only launching Starlink, which is weaponized in Ukraine and beyond, but also Blackjack, the DARPA program, and the classified spy network.
And you mentioned these military industrial complex contracts.
Well, obviously that's all a part of it.
But they've also hired Musk to quote-unquote build their next spy network, their next spy satellite network, that has of yet been unnamed.
Pretty suspicious, Derek.
Yeah, you know, I'm glad you brought up the Blackjack program because you've been covering that for years and just how that ties into satellites in general.
And again, I wouldn't be surprised if talk of SpaceX, talk of going to the moon or going to Mars, all this stuff is just, well, we need to put up more satellites so we can complete that mission.
Those satellites, of course, the military and the government will have access to them.
You know, they'll use them for their own reasons, but still, we promise, it's all about going to the Moon, it's all about going to Mars.
And I'm just curious, man, I mean, not to derail the conversation, what do you think about these folks, not the Flat Earthers, which I don't consider myself a Flat Earther, but I do have some friends who are in that arena, but who say, even with or without the Flat Earth thing, that the technology's just not there for humans to actually go beyond, like, suborbital stuff like we've seen with SpaceX.
So let's talk about that, because that's absolutely a subject we've been highlighting here.
Last week, before I even saw this absolutely insane Mars announcement, and it's absolutely insane everybody, pointing out the Artemis Project.
Okay, now for those that don't know who Artemis is, Artemis is Apollo's twin.
They love doing, it's Apollo's twin!
So, supposedly, via Artemis, we were supposed to launch humans back to the moon this year.
News flash, they backed it up.
Weird.
Shocking.
Now, what they did say that they did last year, and I...
Again, I say they said they did it.
I have no way to verify this.
Is that they took the rocket ships that they are going to use for human beings and went and did up to the moon and around and Snoopy from Peanuts got to take that ride.
You can't make that up.
They put a Snoopy doll.
I know it sounds crazy.
I was out to dinner explaining this last night, and even the waitress, who was kind of on the peripheral listening, just cracked up when she heard that they sent Snoopy to the moon!
Now again, forget about human beings.
Let's talk about rocket ships for a minute.
Having a control of a rocket that returns in that manner for that length of time, for me, we're suspect there.
We're suspect there.
They tell us space is a vacuum, right?
I also don't believe that.
For instance, the Van Allen radiation belts, which you were kind of alluding to, and humans beyond that suborbital region, that wasn't even discovered by science until the Gemini program, which was the precursor to Apollo.
Right?
The Van Allen radiation belts, two giant swaths of radiation around Earth, were the first discovery of the space age in 1958.
In August 2012, NASA launched the Van Allen probes to provide the most detailed picture of the belts ever seen.
Within days of launch, the probes revealed a third, never-before-seen ring of radiation that persisted for about a month.
Scientists already knew the belts shrink and swell in response to incoming energy from the Sun, but they don't know exactly how.
The discovery of a new belt offers additional clues to map out the mysteries of the region.
I think space is varying things.
I think in order to get to the regions that they want, or they're talking about, in order to do that, unless they're lying to us about the length of space in between these things, Can't be rockets.
It has to be another type of propulsion system, period.
And then let's talk about the human aspect, right?
I also believe the ISS is real.
So when I featured a video the other day, Mark Kelly, who is a, he's a congressman, right?
He actually did a twinning study with Scott Kelly.
Now Scott Kelly is the man who has spent the most time in space officially, almost a year.
When they got him off the little ship he comes back in, the little capsule, he can't walk.
He's in a stretcher.
I mean, the other astronauts in a stretcher, they're banged up, right?
He's spending a year on the space station, so we were both involved in experiments to understand better how to keep people alive for longer periods of time in space.
You start doing this right when you get out of the capsule.
You know, the idea is to measure your performance right when you get out of the vehicle.
Let's say you landed on Mars to try to understand what your physical capability is.
You walk with your eyes closed like foot to foot, which is hard even when you haven't been in space for a year, especially on this uneven ground of Kazakhstan.
You get on an airplane and the airplane flies to Norway and you do it there.
And then it gets back to Houston and you do them here again before you even get to go home.
You're doing these tests for weeks.
Now, let's look at the other aspects of this.
Again, not a flat earther.
We have these two people stuck at the ISS because the Boeing ship that they sent is no bueno.
Well, if it's so easy and magical, why do we have to wait until February to maybe save them?
Right?
Well, because you can't get up even that far.
And I believe the ISS is only like a couple hundred thousand, or I'm sorry, a couple hundred miles in the air.
Again, one one-thousandth of what they say the moon is, which is ridiculous.
And again, in order...
They have to stop launches of rockets all the time because of just weather.
And remember, you have to launch it when it's a certain thing.
People have no idea.
Listen, I'm an idiot, folks.
I flip pizzas for a living.
That's why when they say it's not brain surgery or rocket science, it's complex.
And they're making everybody believe it's cartoon level.
We've got it figured out.
And again, What we do, I think, have figured out is certain weapon systems in space and perhaps some other arenas that we don't know about.
I think they're definitely doing experimentation there.
I had a great interview with Greg Autry, the author of Red Moon Rising, where he wants to go to Mars and he thinks China's a space threat.
And I'm like, well, I'm more worried about the weapons, buddy.
But hydrogels, for instance, they're up on the ISS.
So yes, NASA works with them down here, but they want to work with them in the physics up there.
Bioluminescence itself has been around for a very, very long time.
Our technology, which we call auto-bioluminescence, that allows cells to basically talk to us and tell us about their level of health.
So when they're happy and healthy, they make a ton of light.
And when they start to get sick, that light gets dimmed.
People like drug development companies, academic researchers, scientists across the world spend lots of money and they use lots of crazy different materials in order to encourage cells to grow in three-dimensional structures.
The International Space Station allows cells to do this with no external materials required.
We want to be able to demonstrate that we can use microgravity to improve drug development.
We can make it easier to move materials to the space station, and we can make it easier to start leveraging that environment for this sort of research.
They do 3D organ printing up there as well, which is really interesting.
And, you know, I asked him why they would do that, right, in regards to Earth, and he's like, well, There's gravitational force on Earth so it wants to be flat all the time.
That is utterly suppressed and it's very much easier to print this 3D organic matter up there.
Welcome back.
A Florida company is making history this weekend, launching the first 3D bioprinter into space.
Redwire will attempt to 3D print a human knee meniscus.
This is all part of creating a way to 3D print replacement organs.
So why space?
Well, it's because you can print the organs with gravity turned off so the organs do not collapse.
Joining us now is Rich Bolling.
Many people are familiar these days with 3D printers.
Well, imagine printers need ink, right?
And so we load bio-inks into our bio-printer and we can print in three dimensions in space where there's no gravity, as you said, and these things don't sediment or collapse upon one another.
We believe this is the very best way to print human organs and tissues.
So I'm with you that there are all sorts of black programs, etc.
It's funny because, you know, go watch that interview.
I asked him, I go, you know, I'm more interested in like, you know, the classified programs.
He's like, NASA doesn't do any classified programs.
And then I brought up the fact that Musk had been commissioned to build this spice.
Well, I can't comment on any classified programs.
But see, that's not a NASA program, right?
That's a subcontract with SpaceX.
And that's how they have this plausible deniability circle.
They've just extended Musk's Starlink contract with the military-industrial complex in Ukraine, I believe it's for another six months, in June.
So this happened two and a half months ago, when they're so mad at Elon!
And I think it was something actually light, right?
It was only $14 million, not $14 billion or anything like that.
Chump change.
Chump change.
Can you imagine how much they're really pouring into this, Derek?
Yeah, I mean, like you said, you pointed out a lot of great things there.
As far as, you know, my thoughts on the whole, whether space is real again, I think a lot of times people get lost in that.
The points that you're bringing up and the points that I mentioned as far as the military-industrial conflicts, I think is what we should look to, whether you're a flat-earther, whether you think we live in a dome, whether you think we've never been to the moon, whatever.
Is even if you don't think space is real, or whether you think it is real, whether you think we've been to the moon, the military connections, the connections with Musk and with Starlink and the satellite programs, Blackjack, all that stuff, I think is what we should really be concerned about.
So whether or not the satellites are up in space or they're just floating above us in low orbit because we can't get to space, the point is, unless you're of the crowd that thinks the satellites aren't real as well, and I've heard that.
Well, let me say that.
Let's talk about that quickly.
The balloons.
Because there are Sataloons.
It's on their own website.
And they're gigantic.
And it's funny, you know, I had, you know, I get a variety of these kind of mainliners that write books.
And there's a lot of China-phobia.
So people bring up the China balloon.
Wasn't no Chinese balloon.
That's literally part of NASA and probably the Beyond Network.
It was a navigational system that is lower than low Earth orbit satellites that are absolutely on that balloon.
So in other words, they have those satellites that are on balloons as well.
They don't want to cop to that because they're ginormous, number one.
And I'm sure they're used for all sorts of not only data intake, But like I said, these things transmit information and receive information.
So they're not too keen on that thing coming down and being like, hey, what's that on there?
I guarantee there's classified programs on it.
It's one of the best-kept secrets of space science.
For transporting ambitious and hefty scientific experiments to near space.
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
Though they're not as flashy or headline-grabbing as rockets, for the quickest and most cost-effective trip to near space, they are the time-honored gold standard.
Look, when you're looking at NASA, I think it's a plethora of different things.
There's a ton of different plausible deniability circles within it, and you get to point to one direction.
People have no idea what they're even talking about.
So, look, when I look at this technology, it does alarm me because it also is at the forefront for transhumanism, and people are, they're taken away.
In the Hollyweird aspects of it.
You know, one of the things that I actually did yesterday on the program is I showed the NASA officials tell you that humans are not going to Mars.
They tell you that it's going to be robots and nanobots and they're going to send the information back and then you can virtually visit Mars.
You've got to be thinking 30, 40, 50 years out.
And Andy is absolutely right.
And I tell people all the time, the very first things on the surface of Mars are going to be robots.
You know, think about what we do for American forces today around the world.
We don't send soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines often into a very hot area first.
We try to get in and make the environment safe for them using robots or whatever.
But we're actually, I imagine there's going to be a fleet of robots, maybe humanoid.
They don't have to look like humans.
They're going to establish the habitat.
They're going to go in because with 3D printing, Uh, we can put a fleet of robots on the surface of Mars.
We may find, based on what we know about the radiation environment, that we want to go underground, rather than, you know, have huts on the surface and get blown away in the wind that doesn't exist.
But that was a critical part.
I tell my wife, it's a movie, okay?
Very, very important part.
But it may be that robots dig under, you know, go subterranean and establish the habitat.
Anybody ever do, you know, build houses for charitable reasons, you don't go there and there are no two by fours on the lot.
There are prefab structures, so you get eaves and walls, and that's what we're going to do on Mars.
But we're going to print it, I think.
And you were talking about robot exploration, and I'd mentioned Ray Kurzweil to you, and you'd said that he'd spoken at NASA, and to me, the way that you described robots almost as kind of like the children of mankind really stuck with me, and it put what we're doing on Mars right now in a new perspective for me.
Well, that quote, robots being the children of mankind, is actually from Hans Moravec.
from Carnegie Mellon.
He has various books on this.
Robot is one of them from the early 00s, as I remember.
And the idea is that we are currently becoming cyborgs at a very fast rate.
The IBM BlueBrain project, which is nanosectioning the neocortex and replicating it, Silicon has made such good progress that They are claiming in 12 to 15 years they will be able to market a biomimetic human level machine intelligence.
The nano-functionalization of robots is continuing to pace very rapidly.
So there's no reason why in the 10, 20 year, well 15 to 25 year out, that exploration can't be done very well with robots at a cost.
Which has been estimated at about one one thousandth out of sending humans.
So one way to do this exploration of Mars and so forth is three ways, I mean three stages.
One is to send the nanorobots and instrument the planet and send back the data.
And the Brits demonstrated five senses virtual reality, haptic taste, touch, smell, sight and sound recently.
So everyone could explore Mars anytime they wanted to at one one thousandth the cost of sending people.
And again, NASA very much behind quantum computing, AI with Google, this push into a virtual reality, and all that stuff is really going to be pushed, I believe, at this summit of the future.
Is it not, Derek?
That's absolutely a part of it.
So, I mean, we've been reporting on the Summit of the Future, and I've mentioned to folks in the past that they're going to sign the pact for the future, which is sort of the key document.
But there's two other documents that they're planning on signing.
One is called the Declaration on Future Generations, but the other one is called the Global Digital Compact.
And it is all about, you know, we got to make sure we don't leave anybody behind in the race to 5G and 6G and the internet of bodies and the internet of nanobio things.
And yeah, that's absolutely a part of it.
And of course, as always, the UN is couching it in this language of making sure that we are inclusive and equitable and none of the indigenous folk and women and you know, the minority communities get left behind when in reality, their voices are being completely ignored during this compact.
So it's going to be happening next Saturday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday in New York City.
The globalist set is already starting to show up in New York City as the UN General Assembly week is beginning very soon.
So they're already starting to show up, but next weekend will be the Summit of the Future, as well as the World Economic Forum's Sustainable Development Impact Meetings, and of course the Club of Rome is tied to all of it.
And that's all happening next weekend.
As you mentioned, I'm going to be on the road a little bit, going to the Summit of the Future, so I might not be at my normal time on your show, but I definitely look forward to sending in some reports and sharing with everybody what I see in New York City and what the result is.
And we're definitely going to be highlighting those reports.
This is the real deal, folks.
On the ground journalism.
In the belly of the beast.
It's been a while since I've been to NYC.
This one should be an interesting one.
Derek, let everybody know where they can check out your stuff and support your work, brother.
Thank you so much.
You can find me at theconsciousresistance.com.
I just released the latest episode of my Pyramid of Power documentary series.
You can find it over there.
And my writing at thelastamericanvagabond.com.
Hey everybody, Jason Burmess here.
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