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We are now joined by the host of Election Edge, Mark Schaaflein.
He is also our economic guru and the CEO of CBMJ.
So let's talk economy.
Let's talk real estate in particular.
I know that you've seen me on the Reawaken America tour.
The last one, I was out in Sterling, Michigan, right outside of Detroit.
And I gotta tell you, I was surprised.
From media reports, I thought I was going to be going into a very urban, destitute area.
And don't get me wrong, there were certain places that were better than others, but overall, I was shocked at how much of a recovery this has made, and now you are seeing people go into those once abandoned areas and reclaiming real estate, really at maybe the best bargain prices I've seen in any state, especially when you accrue in property taxes and economic opportunity after the fact.
Come from the world when I was a kid, uh, that our first house, uh, my stepfather's father got at an auction.
I think it was somewhere in the 25 to $30,000 range, even in upstate New York.
Sure.
It needed about five, $10,000 of work, but that was a pretty good bargain for a, uh, For a house on a main strip, in a main neighborhood, you're seeing even lower prices than that in Detroit.
So what are your thoughts?
Is this a big investment opportunity for some people?
You know, if you know what you're doing and you know the local ins and outs, it could be a good opportunity.
I mean, Detroit and the surrounding areas, the city was literally selling houses for a thousand, two thousand dollars.
Now, when people bought those, Some people may have realized, hey, I've got to put $50,000, $60,000, $70,000 into this to fix it up.
But even with that, there were some stories of entrepreneurship where capitalism worked.
I mean, some people made money, some people lost money.
But the key to any area, I don't care whether you're in South Florida where things were booming, now they're not so booming.
Detroit, where it was a bust, now it's a little bit better.
You have to look at factors like, okay, how much is it going to cost me to improve this property up to a level where someone could inhabit it?
You know, you've got plumbing expenses, electrical expenses, lighting, a litany of things that could go into it.
But some people who actually lived out of state, moved into Detroit, got a sense of what it was like.
And whereas years ago, you had dilapidated houses and bad areas, crime was rampant.
Now, some of those houses have come back and some of the neighborhoods have come back, but you have to buy it right because you could end up in a situation where by the time you fix it up, You can't sell it or rent it for what you have into it.
Then you've got the taxes, ongoing maintenance.
And then although crime is down, it hasn't gone away.
It's still high and owners have to factor that in, but it's like anything else.
If you go into an area, scope it out, understand it, then you have an opportunity to make some
good money.
And some people have done that in Detroit.
Now for me, when I look at this area, this is a real opportunity to own a home, especially
And your job doesn't necessarily have you beholden to an area.
You basically just have to find a good internet spot.
There are so many of those jobs out there.
And in an arena, economically, and really globally, where they're telling you you're gonna own nothing and be happy, or they're running Coinbase ads telling you that you're gonna have to have five roommates and maybe somewhere down the line, You know, we're going to do, you know, maybe you're going to be able to own a home, but probably not.
This is a way to own a home.
You know, and I'm just saying to people out there, I've never owned a home.
I'm almost a 50 year old man at this point.
We're on the road to 50.
I'm 45.
I got to tell you, after I get the nieces through high school, maybe I am going to want to own a home.
And I'm going to be honest, after spending some time in that area, you know, outside of the auto industry, I think it's got some real opportunities.
Let's talk about another state that might have some real opportunities, Wyoming.
They're announcing they want their own stable coin, okay?
So for those that don't understand what a stable coin is, you have a coin that is really based on either the dollar or another currency that is being traded and it is a one-to-one basis.
The big stable coin right now that most people are aware of Is the USDC coin, which is backed by Goldman Sachs and tied to the dollar.
It is not the only one, but this would be the first state to take it in that direction.
What are your thoughts on this, Mark?
Because look, I'm hesitant with a lot of the digital currency stuff outside of the trading, especially when you get it centralized.
That's what this feels like.
At the same time, I'm not a Luddite.
I'm willing to accept blockchain technology.
But this certainly would be the first of its kind.
I have a lot of concerns about it.
And let me share what those concerns are.
The Wyoming proposal is basically going to be backed by dollars, by Treasury bills.
Okay, so if it were to be, I think they're talking about implementing this in either the first or the second quarter 2025.
All right, it's likely that interest rates will be lower in Q1 or Q2 of 2025 than they are now because the Federal Reserve has announced that they're going to start cutting interest rates maybe at the September meeting by 25 to 50 basis points.
The problem is this.
Since these stable coins are going to be backed by dollars, that's going to mean that the banks or the financial institutions that sell these are going to have to hold that capital in reserve.
So as an example, if they're holding treasury bills, Okay, it's great.
Guy comes in, wants to buy $50,000 or $100,000 worth of coins.
Great.
Okay.
The financial institution that sold those coins now has to keep some amount in cash and the balance in treasury bills.
Say it's 95% T-bills, 5% cash.
Because what happens if that buyer at a certain point wants to return that coin and sell it?
Well, If interest rates tick down after you buy it, then the value of that coin is likely to go up.
But what have we seen over the past three years under a Democratic administration?
Massive spending.
Widespread inflation.
Yes, it's come down.
It's slightly under 3% right now.
It's still way above the Fed's goal of 2%.
But if interest rates ticked up and you've got a stable coin that is backed by dollars and you go to sell that coin, it's going to be worth a lot less than you paid for it.
So, I don't know.
I mean, having states create their own digital currency?
You know, you ask yourself, what could possibly go wrong?
I mean, we already have the U.S.
dollar digital currency that you can do.
But I don't know, Jason, I know Wyoming's quote got the pioneer spirit and, you know, the cowboy land and all that.
But I would be cautious at best on how to proceed here because, look, if you want to get into the cryptocurrency market, and we're going to talk about this a little bit later, you can buy Bitcoin, you can buy Ethereum, there's things you can do to have exposure to that.
I'm just not so sure a state coin And Mark, by the way, what happens when somebody outside of the state starts investing heavily?
And what happens when somebody outside of the country starts investing heavily?
It seems nice on the surface, but especially when you're tying, obviously, the government, et cetera, to it, there are definitely some issues, but we're moving in that digital direction.
I think that this could be a soft use case for a CBDC type currency that's federal,
despite the fact that if Trump gets in, he says it will never happen.
And I gotta say, now that he has aligned himself a little more with RFK Jr.,
that's one of RFK Jr.'s better points.
He understands the cryptocurrency market.
He's been invested in Bitcoin over a decade, et cetera.
So supposedly we're moving away from that, but when I see state coins,
I see that slow push, that roll, that they want it to be inevitable.
Let's kind of go back to that first topic of homes for a second.
Now, a lot of people, when they talk about inflation, they don't talk about building supplies, but they should be.
I remember very, very early on during the pandemic, all of a sudden lumber doubled, tripled in some cases.
And now, here we are, several years later, after the pandemic, and the Home Depot of all places.
In this country, probably the most notable hardware store, I got one around the corner from myself.
They're not sure they're going to make it.
There is some real concerns after they put out their last quarter's profits.
And we've seen these things go badly quickly.
Home Depot is like America.
Anytime I got to do even a small thing, that's where I go.
And that's where most of America goes.
This is extremely troubling if they can't keep their heads above water, even after all those price hikes.
Well, let me address one thing here, okay?
I don't think you're suggesting Home Depot is going to go out of business, but Home Depot and Lowe's, they're forecasting sales declines of four to five percent.
Why is this happening?
Well, persistently high inflation and high interest rates have had a sort of a calming effect, if you will, on consumers who want to put money into their properties.
Listen, With taxes, real estate taxes going up across the country, insurance costs going up massively across the country, and in some cases, California and Florida just downright escalating.
It's put really a tightening on a lot of property owners.
Think about this.
Look, I own property.
Okay, so I can speak as an owner here.
I'm always having to put in a hot water heater, fix the air conditioning, fix the plumbing, the dishwasher, the dryer, you name it.
But If you are trying to do this really for the first time, or you've acquired one, maybe two properties, and you already, let's say you're part of that borrowing class that has over $1.2 trillion in credit card debt, how much more are you going to want to be able to finance?
If things go bad, yeah, you're going to have to repair it, but you're probably going to do everything you can to fix something before you have to go out and buy another one.
So I think that's having an effect too.
So if you have an economic slowdown, and I happen to be in that camp that says, particularly on the consumer side, with all the debt, I'm in that camp that this may go on for a while, and if you have an outright slowdown, or if the economy really stopped,
Meaning it's not growing, then these stocks could go much lower.
But right now, I don't see a risk of them going out of business because, look, you got to get this stuff somewhere.
But let me show you an example.
Look at South Florida.
They have a major insurance crisis going on in the state of Florida as a result of the Surfside condominium thing.
People that own condos, contrary to like the Detroit situation, You know, they're getting hit with massive assessments.
So an area that was once booming, Florida real estate is calming down.
So if you have property values that are not escalating and they're either flattening out or somewhat declining, are you going to really want to go out there and fork over $1,400 for a refrigerator or oven stove?
No, you want to repair the existing one as long as you can.
Or go hit the Salvation Army like I do and pick up a dryer for a hundred bucks, folks.
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And this story out of Hong Kong is a bit concerning for me.
Now, it's not so much a surprise if you actually have been following this in the geopolitical arena.
But pre-COVID 1984, you had a ton of protests out in Hong Kong because essentially their government was shifting over to China.
For those that do not know Hong Kong's history, it was basically a British colony for about a hundred years in this trade deal and that ran out.
Now, the people of Hong Kong were accustomed to at least, you know, a slight bit more freedom And, you know, you used to have protests going on in this country on a large scale, marches, etc.
Not a person in the streets.
And if you do go back, all the way back to 2019, again, five years ago, plenty of people out in the streets, plenty of civil unrest, hard-handed police tactics, I believe, to get us into the place we are now.
And to me, you know, this is a very extensive article.
It is very troubling.
Oh, it should be troubling because not only when the Chinese Communist Party took over and effectively, don't kid yourself, they did.
There was supposed to be a 50-year window going to 2047 before things were officially handed back to China.
Well, we're halfway through that and the Chinese Communist Party has a virtual lockdown over the city.
What does that mean?
Well, after those protests, a lot of laws were implemented from China, from the CCP, basically putting harsh penalties in place for people that did protest Anti-government activities, subversion, it was problematic.
But what made it even worse, after the Chinese Communist Party put severe restrictions in place to counter those protests, over a period of years, really the last five to six, the legislature, which is now A lot of, let's just say, not necessarily traditional Hong Kongers, if you will, has taken what the Chinese Communist Party did and strengthened those penalties and institutionalized them.
So if you're going out to do a protest and you're faced with the possibility of 20 years in prison, knowing at the end of the day that it's not going to lead anywhere, A la Tiananmen Square.
Do you really want to put yourself at risk for 20 years to life in prison with some of these penalties for staging a government protest?
Most people do not.
You know, Jason, people don't realize there's 50,000 Americans actually living in Hong Kong.
So you had a vibrant city, but, and you know, we talked about cities earlier.
Think about this.
Real estate prices in Hong Kong are down 50%, 50% from where they peaked.
You know, they have their own currency, real estate prices down, stock market prices, they're down 50% too.
So, preview of coming attractions, anytime you have a leftist communist regime controlling, top-down control over an economy, you're gonna have a problem.
I mean, let me relate this to what's actually happening in China.
Almost 30% of Chinese businesses lose money.
And yet, because the Chinese Communist Party is involved in ownership of those businesses, So let's talk Bitcoin.
like they're zombie companies.
They continue to lose money, the CCP props them up.
And if something like that happened in Hong Kong, woo, boy, that'd be a problem.
So halfway into this 50-year experiment, still a beautiful city, but economically,
nothing like it used to be.
So let's talk Bitcoin.
We've got the seeking of approval through the SEC to index Bitcoin.
Now, I got to be honest, you know, I know what the Security Exchange Commission is.
I know what the NASDAQ is.
The approval for indexing Bitcoin, that's a little bit French to me.
Don't exactly understand that.
I'm sure you do.
What does this mean, Mark?
Well, there's two things going on here with Bitcoin.
They want to start having to where people can buy and sell options on a basket of cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin, Ethereum, etc.
Those are the two largest ones.
So if you create an index, basically, like, for example, the S&P 500 is a group of 500 stocks, okay?
And people can buy and sell the index or they can buy and sell options on the index.
Meaning you would buy a call option if you think the price of Bitcoin is going to go up.
You would buy a put option if you think the price of Bitcoin is going to go down.
So creating that index of cryptocurrencies within the index.
And in this case, you know, Bitcoin would be the predominant one.
It's sort of be like if you built an index and had Apple, Google, Microsoft, Nvidia in it, then those four stocks are going to have greater weighting in the index.
So if you take an index, create an index like with Bitcoin, Ethereum, there could be a handful of other smaller coins in there, but Bitcoin will dominate that index.
It might account for 60-65% of the total value of the index, but it'll be marketed as a cryptocurrency index.
Then what broker dealers can do is they can make money by either selling puts or calls.
And investors can make or lose money based upon that.
So I think this is a normal progression.
I don't see any harm in it at this point.
And I think the more acceptance that cryptocurrencies gain, regardless of what your opinion is on them, they are here.
There's a limited supply, meaning I think Jason is 21, 22 million Bitcoins out there and it's not gonna grow a whole lot.
So, no, this is a natural progression in financial engineering, and I don't really think it's gonna have any harm at all.
Yeah, I don't think that it's going to be harmful.
I think that it's going to further legitimize these cryptocurrencies, obviously, especially Bitcoin and Ethereum.
And with Ethereum, you have tons of these altcoins that run on that network.
So, again, it's not going anywhere.
People that don't understand that need to start.
I'm not telling you have to be invested in it.
I just...
Would suggest that you keep your eye on it because there could be a point where that gets leveraged much higher than other assets.
But at the same time, you may see a peak and a very, very quick drop off like you don't normally see in other stocks as well.
That's the crypto market.
Let's talk about the military-industrial complex market for a moment.
You and I have discussed this now for some time.
It got supercharged after the events of October 7th.
That conflict, despite what we're being told, you know, possible ceasefires, etc.
Seems to keep going.
And then this is kind of under the radar.
Meanwhile, where most people are focusing on the Middle East now, the United States has announced significant new military assistance for Ukraine yet again this week.
Now that means the money train keeps on rolling down the tracks.
This tells me Lockheed's a good investment.
This tells me Raytheon's a good investment.
Down the line, I Of course, I'm an anti-war guy.
My morality will not allow me to invest in these stocks, but this really does show that despite the American people in large part wanting these conflicts to end, there is no end in sight.
Obviously, we have this election coming up, but if somehow, someway Kamala Harris and that administration gets in, I mean, they're not talking about this ending.
They're talking about strengthening their relationship with Ukraine and democracy.
Donald Trump really seems to be the only game in town where this could possibly reverse and maybe these stocks either start to level out or maybe even go down.
But even then, Trump is a big military guy.
I would assume that he will reinvest in other programs that are going to be beneficial to these companies no matter what.
There is zero chance that the military-industrial complex will see less spending under either Trump or Harris administrations.
You know, I was thinking about while you were talking about that.
Do you remember the time when Republicans used to be known as the defense?
You know, Republicans always want to build up the military, build up defense, spend money.
Neocon Warhawks.
The Warhawks, exactly.
Yeah, the Warhawks.
Don't get me wrong, there are some hawkish people.
How hawkish people.
They've just been totally and completely overshadowed by the left and the Democratic Party.
This is why I've been politically homeless for so long.
I could relate to the anti-war left.
There is no real anti-war left at this point.
They pick and choose what they want to talk about, period.
And most of the time they're talking about democracy and strengthening our ties with foreign nations that are at war with first world nations that have a superior military, maybe not to ours, but the nations that we're supporting.
Oh, it goes beyond that.
I mean, just yesterday you had Zelensky talking about the need to, again, take the handcuffs off and let the Ukrainians use weapons that can reach further into Russia.
And so far, The NATO allies and the Biden administration, what's left of it, have said no to that.
But let me share a little nugget with you here.
You are right about those defense contractors hitting 52-week highs.
I actually had dinner with a gentleman last night that works, ironically, I didn't know we were going to talk about this today, but for a military defense contractor.
And I asked him, I said, did you see that story about the F-22 Phantom plane, how it cost $350 million?
It's a fifth generation plane.
He goes, yeah, I know all about it.
And he said, Mark, here's what you don't know.
We're already working on the sixth generation of these planes.
I was like, whoa, this one costs $350 million?
He goes, yeah, and it does some unbelievable things.
They can't even publish the stuff about all the things this plane can do.
I hear that, and then you ask me this question.
I can unequivocally tell you, this guy works for a major defense contractor.
That I don't see any slowdown in spending.
Deficits be damned.
It's not going to matter.
We're going to get to a point pretty soon where the interest on the national debt will exceed the military budget.
We're not already there.
So no, I mean, if it's the Harris administration, oh my God, how are they going to tax to pay for all this stuff?
And if it's the Trump administration, you know, we're going to see some deficit spending also.
So at a certain point in time, maybe, but right now there's nothing stopping this train Jason.
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And I gotta tell you, you know, the stories I sent to you today, they're a little bit self-serving.
I've seen some hype around the way your nails look.
And I gotta admit, you know, number one, I got like a little black ring right here on my thumbnail that I did not have before, right on that edge, just like that person's thumb.
I would say mine's even darker.
Been there for a couple years.
I've also got these lines that have come up.
I don't feel any different.
I know there's been a lot of hype around melanomas and those type of cancers in the past.
I know there's a lot of misdiagnoses.
As well, and if you read the article, they'll even admit a lot of this stuff, especially if you're seeing it throughout your hands, is benign.
You know, it is basically, you know, you're getting a little bit older, your body's changing.
So what are your thoughts on this?
I mean, should people really be concerned if, like I said, you know, you look at that, I got a little black line, hasn't gone away in a couple years.
My hand doesn't feel like it's falling off.
I don't feel any pain.
What's the deal?
So you did a little self research this morning, it sounds like to me, right?
But no, the deal is we, you know, when people come into our office into our presence, we actually do examine the nails.
We look at, you know, believe it or not, we look at their eyebrows.
We look at their skin.
We often look at their tongue.
We're looking for discolorations and things, but with nails, Generally speaking, there's two things that contribute to nail dysfunction.
It's going to be nutrient deficiencies.
Many times it's zinc, is what I see quite often.
And also when you see that dark spot or a dark spot that's sort of isolated and not global, generally it's trauma.
Nail's been mashed or something like that.
Sometimes when nails get thick, you know, especially in the toenail area, it can be Two reasons.
One is kind of a yeast or a fungal or mold kind of infection causing the nail bed to get thick.
Additionally, it can be trauma with the toes because the toes are cramming those shoes all the time.
And you know, we are banging them all the time.
Then as you mentioned too, Jason, as we age, things do get dysfunctional.
They get misshapen, they get damaged.
The only thing I didn't like about that article, in a sense, is it kind of promoted and planted a seed of what I would consider a fear, and we don't already do that.
Pay attention, yes, but don't go down the pathway of worst-case scenario.
So yeah, that was the thing, right?
Because that's the big gripping headline.
That's always what they lead with.
As soon as you hear the C word, people panic, etc.
But seeing as I've seen so much hype again, not only around skin cancers, but even breast cancers.
And now, more than ever, we're seeing misdiagnosis.
We're seeing mastectomies that should have never happened, etc.
I'm always hesitant because, let's be honest, mainline medicine isn't always the best.
They might see this and misdiagnose you.
You might have to go see two, three other people before you get the correct diagnosis.
You mentioned zinc deficiency.
Are there any other minerals, vitamins, etc.
that I should be paying attention to?
Yeah, typically you can look at like vitamin A is a big one as well.
So, so A and zinc are integrally tied to nails as well as the, uh, it's a B vitamin.
Um, actually B7 is biotin.
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But are you going to use your fingers to do that?
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All right, now I got this other story out there.
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It very much scared me.
I went and saw a doctor, etc.
I didn't have insurance at the time, so they weren't too keen on doing a whole bunch of different things, but I mentioned that And he said, well, you know, that could be part of the issue.
Gave it up.
In fact, I'm not a big soda drinker.
I would say, you know, with proper diet and exercise, my heart issues were gone.
I don't know, in a matter of months, maybe a couple months, didn't have them anymore.
It was obviously the issue for me.
We're living in a very different world now, where a lot of people have taken hate and lies shots, and we've obviously seen the heart issues out there, okay?
When you read something like this, do you think that that may be a contributing factor?
And then when you look at something like Red Bull that is heavily caffeinated, et cetera, how much realistically do you have to drink on a regular basis for it to become this extremely detrimental to your health?
Every year there are a number of people's deaths that are attributed to consumption of these high caffeinated drinks.
And it is a real deal, but it's always also personal too, Jason.
There's always things going on underlying.
A lot of people's cardiac muscles are not working too well right now for a variety of reasons.
I mean, that's been tied back to the myocarditis, you know, from the vaccines.
That's been a clear connection.
But also you've got, again, nutrient deficiencies.
You've got poor health.
That's part of our journey today.
And a lot of these caffeinated drinks, Jason, they have caffeine listed.
And they have other ingredients listed.
What they don't list, clearly, is the caffeine inside those other ingredients.
So a lot of the caffeinated drinks will have between 150 and 200 milligrams, perhaps, caffeine listed.
But you might have much, much more double, triple that with the ingredients that yield caffeine, such as like a ginseng or things like that, right?
And then not to mention, you also got those high doses of B vitamins that can stimulate the body as well from an adrenal capacity, which stimulate heart rate increase.
So it's a big deal.
We do need to watch the amount of caffeine.
We do need to watch the amount of stimulus we put in our heart.
But overall, we need to really engage in withdrawing some of that unnecessary sugary mess that you talked about earlier.
I'm glad you gave up that previous habit, sir.
Well, I was never one of those guys that drove around in a truck all day drinking Mountain Dew until everything was like neon green.
Always kind of gross to me.
The Red Bull craze, the energy drink craze, didn't get in on that either.
However, being in the bar game, those shots, the energy drink, that's where I would feel it, you know?
And I'm the kind of guy that maybe if I overdid it, my big toe hurt with a little bit of the gout, maybe even the prediabetes.
I don't know at this point.
Dr. Mark Sherwood, an absolute pleasure as always.
Let everybody know where they can check out your work and support you, sir.
Well, they can find us at sherwood.tv, of course, Jason, where we're able to, you know, get them hooked up into our our patient base that they choose to.
There's a lot of resources on that they can have and certainly they can also check out our show furthermore right here on Patriot TV that airs on Saturday and Sunday every week.
So just always appreciate you and what you do.
Keep an eye on those nails and keep the sodas out of your life.
I love you, Mark.
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Figured that they were just gonna run with the conviction train in the New York case and the sentencing coming up in September, and I'm sure that's still in their little bag of tricks.
But somehow, someway, Jack Smith, this prosecutor, has retooled the Georgia indictment Uh, that has essentially been thrown out and filed more charges against Trump via the 2020 election.
First off, what are your thoughts on this and how far can this go under the end of a Biden administration?
But if Trump doesn't get in there into a Kamala Harris administration.
All right, so Jason, I think, first of all, this may be the case out of D.C.
because it's Judge Tanya Chutkin that's going to be overseeing this one.
Now, the thing that I see looking at Jack Smith's recent attempts to retool this indictment, removing any references to President Trump, completing any official acts, putting any pressure on the Department of Justice, It's merely a desperate attempt to try to bring this case into some sort of compliance with the recent Supreme Court ruling that presidents have a presumed immunity when it comes to the commission of any official acts.
So he removes any reference to the Department of Justice.
Well, a president has the right to speak to his Department of Justice because, of course, he's the President of the United States.
He's cut, I think, nine pages out of the original indictment.
It is essentially exactly the same except for any references to the fact that President Trump was president, which would, uh, assumingly be within the confines of the Supreme Court's decision.
The only thing is that Jack Smith is kind of betting preemptively on what Tanya Chutkan is going to see in terms of her interpretation of that ruling.
The end of the day, I really do think it's a desperate attempt.
I think that because we're in the waning days of the Biden administration and Joe Biden isn't even running the country at this point, he's probably going to be on vacation for the remainder of his time in office.
This is not going to go anywhere.
And by the time that it does go anywhere, President Trump is going to be back in the White House and he will have appointed a brand new Attorney General.
And anything related to any of these cases is simply just going to be tossed out.
They're going to be dismissed because none of them have any merit on their face.
Now you just used the word Attorney General.
After RFK Jr.
gave that speech last week and then got up on stage with Donald Trump, a lot of people were talking about RFK Jr.
as the Attorney General.
I got thrown for quite the loop when the CIA director was thrown out there. Now, this is something that actually,
you know, piques my interest.
I don't necessarily think it's the wrong thing. He has now said on Tucker Carlson and elsewhere
that he would not dismantle the CIA, but he would regulate the CIA and of course,
be part of that committee or group that would declassify the documents, not only about his
uncle and father, but even beyond that. And I'm hoping and assuming, and this is me kind
of projecting a little bit, we'd also get to 9-11. What are your thoughts?
So I have to be honest, I wasn't particularly surprised.
If we go back to, I think it was April of last year, I had suggested on my program that RFK Jr.
would make an incredible vice president as a unity government, sort of what we're seeing right now.
Now, he actually did mention that when President Trump first reached out to him, it was as his pick for vice president.
He wasn't interested in that.
But I also said that the best possible outcome for us, the American people, and even for the Kennedy family to get truth about the various assassinations that the CIA has been complicit and actually taken part in would be for RFK to be the director of the CIA.
I mean, can you think of any better just desserts than the offspring of two Kennedys that were both assassinated by the CIA coming in Retooling that organization and releasing the truth of what happened, not only in those assassinations, but MLK, probably Malcolm X, any number of assassinations of democratically elected leaders around the world.
If he released that information and showed the truth to the American people, it would be an absolute game changer.
And then, of course, you can't forget about the recent assassination attempt of President Trump on July 13th in Butler.
I think that even if he is heading up an independent, bipartisan, investigatory committee to get to the bottom of these assassinations, the CIA is most likely not going to be forthcoming with any information they may have.
And the only way that he's going to be able to get all of that information, gain full access to it, is if he was sitting at the top of the pyramid.
Just because he goes to the CIA doesn't mean that he has to stay there for the entirety of President Trump's time in office.
He could come in, he could get that information, release it, he could retool the entire organization, and then he could move on and complete that process yet again in another corrupt federal agency.
You know, again, it does pique my interest.
I still think that we should probably be getting rid of the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, Homeland Security, and not just retooling.
But again, this isn't...
A revolution, it's a reformation of our constitutional republic with checks and balances.
If somehow, someway, Kennedy can go in there and do it without dismantling it, I'd love to see it.
Like you said, you couldn't write a book or have a movie with more irony if you were to put RFK Jr.
in that position, given what happened to both his uncle And his father.
So look, it's interesting times.
I'm certainly keeping my eye on this.
And I think this makes Kennedy in a lot of respects as much of, if not more of a target than even Trump.
Maybe something happens to him.
It's yet another message to Donald Trump.
So we're hoping that none of that happens, that obviously we get to a free and fair election in November and then we can start cleaning house in January, if at all possible.
Speaking of cleaning house, it seems like the, uh, the authoritarians out there are trying to clean house when it comes to Telegram.
Now I've never been huge on Telegram.
However, I got to tell you, uh, when I look at social media, this is one of the more free platforms out there.
I would say it largely supersedes Twitter, despite the narratives that we have surrounding it.
It just doesn't happen to be USA.
And it has never been promoted as USA-centric.
It's really been used in Europe primarily.
That being said, this person was just arrested in Paris by French authorities, supposedly colluding in drug running and child pornography.
Now, when I hear that, I know what they're doing because you and I both know that it's all about the platform and not this person's activity.
There is nowhere where this person is directly involved in child pornography or dealing drugs.
People using the platform?
Maybe.
He discussed on Tucker Carlson recently that his lead engineer, the Central Intelligence Agency, tried to hire and recruit him to put a backdoor into Telegram.
You know, this is really, really problematic because this is a guy that has all the resources in the world.
I would even suspect that there is the possibility that the French authorities, among others, and he alluded to this too, he said, you know, a backdoor is a backdoor.
Whether it's America, France, any entity can get into it.
And that's the thing, you build this entity, I don't think that it's the CIA
that will give themselves direct access.
They'll create a plausible deniability circle and one of the offshoots will go there.
I would also posit, they may be able to already get into some accounts,
but since they are doing so in a legal manner, they cannot use that in prosecutions against others.
You know, so many people thought that their signal communications were encrypted until we saw some of these trials with the Oath Keepers and January Sixers.
Obviously not as encrypted as they thought it was.
So what are your thoughts on this arrest and where will it go from here?
So my thoughts are very similar to yours.
I mean, this is just a power move by the Intel apparatus to gain access and control of Telegram.
Telegram has a special place in my heart because when I was deleted from YouTube and then Twitter almost immediately thereafter, I was able to go to Telegram in essentially a free speech centric environment and to share my work, to maintain a connection to my audience.
I still have about 50,000 followers there.
On Telegram, and we use it every single day.
It's not as, I guess, you know, user friendly in the same way with the features that like Twitter and other social media companies have, but it is still very useful.
And definitely, there's no way that Pavel is involved in child trafficking or in drug trafficking.
I mean, any social media platform, any platform for communication can be used for these nefarious purposes.
It's like people who say that, oh, Cryptocurrency is great for drug trafficking and child trafficking.
Well, so is cash.
So is gold.
So is any storage or exchange of value.
The reason they're going after it is because they were not granted access, as they were to every other platform.
I'm sure you remember just a couple of years ago, the Feds did this to WhatsApp.
They went after WhatsApp, said that WhatsApp is a major platform for child traffickers, and they busted a couple of people, and they gained backdoor access.
They love to do this.
They want to have access to your communications in whatever way they possibly can, and they would probably end up selling OEM rights to it, to their Intel partners around the world, so that they're not the ones who are directly accessing, they're having their proxies do it, and then they can go ahead and just get the information from them.
It's a lot like what they did With Donald Trump having MI5 set up President Trump and then using that information to create a circular sort of investigation back here in the US.
And let's be abundantly clear, the major platforms to this day, to this day, if you go on them, people are selling drugs.
I can go on Facebook marketplace right now.
I am on the border of Illinois.
Obviously marijuana is legal in Illinois, not in Iowa.
Yes, there are marijuana sales, but then you have mushroom sales as well.
I'll be honest, never seen a plate of cocaine.
Or the heroin needles, but I've certainly seen the mushrooms and the shows up all and by the way, guys, I'm not making those purchases on marketplace.
They're still showing up in my feed.
Yeah, same thing with Instagram.
Same thing.
And believe me, it's happening on telegram too.
But when you look at Twitter, also happening.
If they want to go after these people, those accounts exist.
They can start an investigation.
They can interact with the individuals.
They can set up a spot where they make the purchase.
All of a sudden, you have a case.
They do not need backdoor access.
In fact, with that case you start, if you are leveraging somebody that is low level, You can gain access to their account by a plea deal with them where they give you their username and password so you can get in.
That is the proper way to do things.
Not the government gets to go into social media whenever they want and look at private communications.
Unfortunately, we have a system, especially here in the West, where that has been the case covertly for some time.
A lot of people again think that that revelation came through Edward Snowden and the Five Eyes, but I would really implore people to look pre-911 at what was happening in this country with Norris Insight Systems and the NSA, where they were then, pre-911, taking all of our communications in bulk.
In fact, we've had people like, I believe it was Michael Hayden, get up there under oath, Lie about these programs and then all of a sudden the statute of limitations is up and this person is not only off, he gets paraded out by the opposition party as somebody that is able to criticize Donald Trump.
I believe he was one of the 50 people.
He was.
James Clapper too.
You know what?
I might be wrong.
It might not be Hayden.
It might be Clapper that lied under oath.
They're both minions with that bald head and those glasses.
They look so damn similar.
I mean, those guys are mirror images of tyranny.
Just saying.
We got about two minutes left in the broadcast.
What should we be paying attention to and where can people find your work, brother?
So I've been digging deep into the mysterious sinking of a yacht off the coast of Sicily.
That was the location where a British billionaire who had just beat like a decade-long case By the DOJ for wire fraud and conspiracy.
He had just made them look really bad.
He also took HP for like 8.8 billion dollars.
But he, his entire legal team, his daughter, and a number of people were there celebrating.
Also, the international cash director for Morgan Stanley was also there and he also died.
That's a fascinating case.
Definitely check it out.
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