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Garland Gets Grilled With Brian And Duane Cates | MSOM Ep. 836

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Peter Navarro Contempt 00:12:51
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
Today we're going to be talking Trump 2024, the Garland Grilling, and much more with Brian and Dwayne Cates.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
So I'm not going to violate this norm of the rule of law.
I'm not going to comment on an investigation that's ongoing.
Peter Navarro was indicted for contempt of Congress.
Aren't you, in fact, in contempt of Congress when you give us this answer?
This is an answer that's appropriate at a press conference.
It's not an answer that's appropriate when we are asking questions.
We are the committee that is responsible for your creation, for your existence of your department.
You cannot continue to give us these answers.
Aren't you, in fact, in contempt of Congress when you refuse to answer?
Congressman, I have the greatest respect for Congress.
I also have the greatest respect for the Constitution and laws of the United States.
The protection of pending investigations and ongoing investigations, as I briefly discussed in another dialogue a few moments ago, goes back to the separation of powers, which gives to the executive branch the sole authority to conduct prosecutions.
It's a requirement of due process and respect for those who are under investigation, the protection of their civil rights.
Well, with all due respect, with all due respect to that, Iran-Contra was an ongoing investigation, and that didn't stop Congress from getting the answers.
And you're getting in the way of our constitutional duty.
You're citing the Constitution.
I'm going to cite it.
It's our constitutional duty to do oversight.
Now, in that video, that was your answer to a question to me two years ago when I said how many agents or assets of the government were present on January 5th and January 6th and agitating in the crowd to go into the Capitol and how many went into the Capitol.
Can you answer that now?
I don't know the answer to that question.
Oh, last time, you don't know how many there were or there were none?
I don't know the answer to either of those questions.
If there were any, I don't know how many.
I don't know whether there are any.
I think you may have just perjured yourself that you don't know that there were any.
You want to say that again, that you don't know that there were any?
I have no personal knowledge of this matter.
I think what I said the last time.
You've had two years to find out.
And today, by the way, that was in reference to Ray Epps.
And yesterday you indicted him.
Isn't that a wonderful coincidence on a misdemeanor?
Meanwhile, you're sending grandmas to prison.
You're putting people away for 20 years for merely filming.
Some people weren't even there yet.
You've got the guy on video who's saying go into the Capitol.
He's directing people to the Capitol before the speech ends.
He's at the site of the first breach.
You've got all the goods on him.
10 videos and it's an indictment for a misdemeanor.
The American public isn't buying it.
I yield the balance of my Thomas Massey is the man.
We need so many more like him.
And I just want to go back to his statement about Iran-Contra.
Now, we didn't fully get to the bottom of Iran-Contra.
However, there was some accountability.
And yes, there was a cover-up during and after the fact.
There were even pardons after the fact, but it didn't stop what?
An investigation and answers from the Justice Department, where Garland says he doesn't have to answer anything.
That is the new norm that they have set in an obvious weaponized Justice Department.
Talk about that and much more are Brian and Dwayne Cates.
They are AMP News contributors.
Thank you, gentlemen, for joining me.
First off, what did you think of the Garland hearings?
After the first break, we're going to show Matt Gates in full because I also think he did a phenomenal job.
But Massey, top tier in that exchange.
Well, I've been watching a lot of these congressional hearings since the first Bush administration, and it's very rare you have any real news come out of these hearings.
These are professional bureaucrats.
That's why they rise to the top.
They're good at giving non-answers.
They have legitimate questions put to them.
And they're very slippery people.
They're very good at deflecting questions and spending a lot of time speaking while essentially saying nothing.
And that's what Garland tried to do all day yesterday.
But I was really impressed by a lot of the questions he was being asked.
He was being forced over and over again to obviously avoid answering the question, deflecting the question.
And he tried to use the same dodge they always use.
Well, that's the matter presently under investigation.
I can't comment on an ongoing investigation because I'm protecting the civil rights of the people who are targets of these investigations.
And, you know, there might be some truth to that, some people that end up being roped into some of these investigations and they find out they're not involved.
And that's why you have to be careful about what you take public and what you publicize.
This was a public televised hearing.
So, of course, he's going to be twice as careful what he says.
Most of the real stuff that's done, the real, how the sausage really gets made, is done in the closed-door hearings when the cameras aren't present.
That's when these guys are going to finally maybe give you something.
And so I didn't go into this hearing yesterday with Merrick Garland expecting much of any real news to come out of it because the guy's a very experienced dodger.
And so that's all he did yesterday.
He spent all kinds of time dodging questions that were put to him.
And it's just come out that there were a lot of feds undercover in the January 6th crowd.
And they spent two and a half years lying about that.
And they were organized and they were trying to lure people into a trap.
And so that's coming out.
And so Garland was hit with some really good questions about it.
But of course, he has the standard dodge he can give.
I can't answer that because of all the ongoing January 6th investigations where they're still going after people who just took pictures inside the building and wandered in and out.
And the whole thing's a travesty.
But I'm encouraged that the truth is on our side.
More truth is coming out.
Garland's looking increasingly desperate.
Dwayne, do you think that, in fact, he did perjure himself when Massey was grilling him right there?
Of course.
Yes, absolutely.
People understand something.
So my brother was saying, usually these hearings are nothing but a bunch of bloviating by these reps to look good in front of their constituents for their, you know, their next election, where hopefully they'll be sent back to DC.
The reason you heard such pointed questions, especially by Massey, who's obviously very interested and very unhappy with what Garland is doing, you have to understand, when the Congress starts asking very pertinent questions, it's because they now view Garland as disrespecting their authority.
In other words, he's disrespecting their office, and they worked hard to become state congresspeople.
And when he's interfering with them, their ability to do their job, they're going to start reading him the Riot Act, which is what you saw with Gates, which is what you saw with Massey.
They are pointing out, touching, I love this phrase, touching with the needle the problem.
Here is Merrick Garland, Biden's personal lawyer.
He denies it, but of course we all know what the truth is.
He's there trying to hide under a spotlight.
He's trying to hide his activities and actions.
You have to understand, he has been placed in a position by that hearing where he cannot tell the truth.
He simply can't.
So he perjured himself numerous times.
Massey points that out.
Garland is sitting there.
He looks a little flustered, but he's not worried because he understands he's got very powerful people on his side.
They're setting up Trump to take him out of the 2024 election.
This is literally going to come down to a binary result, all or nothing.
And Garland is sitting there lying through his teeth just about every question asked of him.
He is responding with a bunch of word salad, okay, because he knows he's caught.
He knows he can't justify his actions.
Remember, when Hunter Biden was offered that sweetheart deal, it was, I can't remember the exact date, but it was on a Monday.
And on a Wednesday, the two IRS whistleblowers dropped.
And that was what I call a headshot on the Biden administration from orbit.
That pretty much, those two IRS whistleblowers, that is the end of the Biden crime family.
It's inevitable now.
But they pointed out that Garland was absolutely utterly lying and has been compromised from day one, impeding, trying to slow off and actually block and prevent the prosecution of Hunter Biden.
That's why the sweetheart deal, people have to understand, U.S. Attorney Weiss wanted to charge, and he's on the record.
There's detailed documentation and evidence.
He was going to charge Hunter Biden.
He just needed the cooperation of, I think it was some D.C. U.S. attorneys in California, U.S. attorneys, and he was rejected.
He went to Garland, Garland, he went to Garland and asked for special counsel status so he could pursue the investigation.
And Garland denied him.
Special counsel said, nope, too bad.
Okay, then the sweetheart deal comes out and then the IRS whistleblowers drop.
Now, Garland has lost all leverage.
He's lost all leverage.
He had to make Weiss a special counsel.
And remember, the sweetheart deal that Weiss was ordered by Garland to push and give Hunter, the first act by David C. Weiss as special counsel, no longer a U.S. attorneys, a special counsel, was to yank that sweetheart deal and say it's dead on arrival.
And then Hunter and his lawyers blew up.
So there's Garland.
Now, moving from that to Trump, Garland is part of the process that is trying to take Trump out.
They're doing things that are, I'll be kind and say they're extra legal.
Okay.
And the fact that that guy sits there talking about the Constitution makes me want to just jump up and kick him in the teeth right through the monitor.
Okay, because he's not anything even remotely constitutional.
That is an apparatchik Soviet style.
That's my opinion of Garland.
I truly believe at some point he is going to be removed before Trump reassumes office, which is going to happen.
So later on in that hearing, it may be Ohio where they refuse to cooperate in a state prosecution.
I think that gets brought up in the hearing.
As a fact, it may be Gates, which we're going to look at after this break.
But one of the stunning moments is when Garland was actually confronted with the infamous Burisma Richard Haas CFR video, where he talks about the sweetheart deal.
And literally, Garland cannot help but have his little smirkle on because he knows how absurd this is.
He knows that was an outright admission of getting rid of a prosecutor who was then going after real crimes on Hunter Biden that his Justice Department allowed to exceed the statute of limitations so they would never have to bring charges.
Charles Lieber and Nanotechnology Vax 00:15:36
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I guess I'm just wondering, Mr. Attorney General, has anyone at the department told President Biden to knock it off with Hunter?
I mean, you guys are charging Hunter Biden on some crimes, investigating him on others.
You've got the president bringing Hunter Biden around to state dinners.
Has anyone told him to knock it off?
Our job in the Justice Department is to pursue our cases without reference to what's happening in the outside world.
Just yes or no?
Have you done that?
That is what we need.
So it's a no?
No one that I know of has spoken to the White House about the Hunter Biden case.
I'm wondering then.
Okay, I got it.
I got it.
So Hunter Biden is selling art to pay for his $15,000 a month rent in Malibu.
How can you guarantee that the people buying that art aren't doing so to gain favor with the president?
The job of the Justice Department is to investigate criminal allegations.
We have information.
Are you investigating this?
I mean, someone who bought Hunter Biden's art ended up with a prestigious appointment to a federal position.
Doesn't it look weird that he's making he's become this immediate success in the art world as his dad is president of the United States?
Isn't that odd?
I'm not going to comment about any specific.
Not going to comment, not going to investigate.
So, Hunter Biden associate Devin Archer told us that Hunter sold the appearance of access to then Vice President Biden.
Are you confident he has stopped doing that?
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the question.
Hunter Biden associate Devin Archer told us that Hunter sold the appearance of access to then Vice President Biden.
Are you confident he has stopped?
I'm going to say again that all these matters are within the purview of Mr. Weiss.
I have not interfered with them.
And I do not intend to interfere with him.
So it was a lot of Chinese money that was working its way through these shell companies into the accounts of the Biden family.
So the China initiative was set up during the Trump administration at the Department of Justice to go after the malign influence of the Chinese Communist Party.
And the Biden Justice Department dissolved the China initiative.
So I guess I'm wondering: does the Department have any documents that would detail the basis for why you got rid of the China initiative that President Trump had set up?
The Assistant Attorney General of the National Security Division gave a long speech which explained that.
He has testified before Congress several times.
We'd be happy to provide you with.
What's the basis?
Just tell us all now.
Why was the China Initiative dissolved?
What the Assistant Attorney General said was that we face attacks from four nation states: North Korea, China, Russia, and Iran.
And we need to focus our attention on the broad range of these attacks.
Sometimes we don't.
Are you saying that North Korea has the same malign influence risk to the United States as the Chinese Communist Party?
Are you trying to represent there's some parity there?
Because here's what it looks like: it looks like the Chinese gave all this money to the Bidens, and then you guys came in and got rid of the China Initiative, and it was successful.
Like, I saw one rationale that you guys got rid of the China Initiative because it was racial profiling.
But one of the people you convicted was a guy named Charles Lieber, who was a Harvard professor, taking $50,000 a month to do China's bidding and give them whatever research was being done.
Are you aware of the millions of dollars that moved through Rob Walker's shell companies from Chinese Communist Party entities into Biden family bank accounts?
Are you aware of that?
There were a lot of questions that you just asked.
Let me start with the first one about North Korea.
North Korea is a dangerous actor, both kinetically and with respect to cyber.
But not on par with China.
I'm on the armed service side.
Okay, it makes you look unserious to suggest that.
May I answer your question or answer the question about whether or not you know about all the millions of dollars that move in the market?
You don't want me to answer about North Korea.
I already know the answer, and so does everyone.
They're not the same risk as China.
So let's get on to serious questions and serious answers.
Do you know about the money that moved through Rob Walker's shell companies?
Yes or no?
As I have said repeatedly, I have left these matters to Mr. Weiss.
I've not intruded.
I've not interfered.
I've not tried to find out what.
It's like you're looking the other way on purpose because everybody knows this stuff's happening.
And you know what?
People don't pay bribes to not get something in return.
The China initiative resulted in the convictions of a Harvard professor, of someone at Monsanto.
So we were working against the Chinese.
They paid the Bidens.
And now you're sitting here telling me that North Korea is the big threat.
I got to get to this one thing on January 6th.
So did the FBI lose count of the number of paid informants on January 6th?
Let me answer your question about China.
I want you to answer this question.
I only get five minutes.
You've already sort of, I think, screwed the pooch on China.
January 6th, did you lose count of the number of federal assets?
Did you lose count and order an audit?
Gentlemen, time has expired.
I get an answer to the question of did they lose count of the budget?
Let him answer the question.
Time has expired.
The attorney general can respond.
China is the most aggressive, most dangerous adversary the United States faces.
And we are doing everything within our power to rebut that, to stop that, to prevent their invasions, both kinetic, both and through cyberspace.
And we will continue if someone gave that answer in your courtroom when you were a judge.
You would tell them they were being non-responsive and you would direct them to answer the question.
There it is.
Refuses to answer the last question and babbles something about China.
Still, I think Gates did a tremendous job, especially in bringing Charles Lieber into the conversation.
Dwayne, you know a little something about Charles Lieber.
Explain the importance.
Okay, Charles Lieber was sent in 2012 to Wuhan by Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins.
Francis Collins was the head of the National Institute of Health.
This was a massive conflict of interest because Dr. Charles Lieber, who is a pioneer in nanotechnology and was the chemistry chair of Harvard University, was also receiving money from DARPA and the Department of Defense.
And he was sent to China for the specific purpose of helping the Chinese Communist Party build that Wuhan virology clinic, which he proceeded to do nine months out of every year between 2012 and 2018, when the clinic opened up and became active.
Lieber, let's see, trying to think very carefully here.
Lieber being a pioneer in nanotechnology, people are now oddly discovering that the vax, which was, by the way, prepared before, and this is documented proof, prepared and was available before, or at least it wasn't available, they had it before COVID happened, whether it was released or I think it was deliberately released.
But before COVID happened, some of the, especially the Pfizer vaccine, was already patented.
Okay, remember when COVID occurred, we were all saying to one another, how soon can they build a vaccine or acquire a vaccine or create a vaccine for this?
Remember, we were told, oh, it's going to be three to five, five, seven years from now.
Basically, the country is supposed to be cratered.
The great reset was supposed to be underway.
And somehow, Trump leveraged and pushed them to basically revealing it, discovering it about a year into the pandemic.
Well, people are finding out that there is nanotechnology in the jab, at least the Pfizer JAB, and Moderna, I believe.
Okay, and there was Charles Lieber, who is a pioneer in nanotechnology, assisting the CCP in building that clinic nine months out of every year.
He was arrested.
He was arrested three days after the CDC finally was allowed to get access to a sample of COVID-19.
The Chinese were not cooperating.
They were not providing the CDC or any government around the world access to samples of COVID-19, which is one of the major reasons why Trump initiated the lockdown.
Pardon me, the travel ban.
Okay, so Lieber ended up being arrested three days after they got a look at those samples.
I'm very curious what they actually learned about them.
He is at the heart of whether or not this was, you know, we now realize it's more than likely Fauci did everything he possibly could to kill the lab leak story.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, spoiler alert, it was not a leak.
It was a deliberate release in 2019 at the World Military Games in Wuhan.
There's a reason Trump keeps mentioning China dust.
If you listen carefully, it's about six or seven times now during a round.
He just did it the other day in Iowa.
He says China dust or dust from China.
What does he mean by that?
I think it was released during the World Military Games.
Was a literal biological attack upon the world by the CCP.
But Lieber is at the heart of all of this.
Currently, he's been convicted of embezzlement or conflicts of interest.
I think there are superseding indictments in Lieber's future.
He's going to be one of the people that's going to be in the dock in what I call Nuremberg 2.0.
Well, Lieber is an interesting character.
I think he's at the crux of the issue of the origin story of the COVID-19 4 nightmare.
And kudos to Gates for bringing that up.
Brian, you mentioned the fact that Garland continuously obfuscates and doesn't answer the question to the point where Matt Gates literally says, not going to comment, not going to investigate.
And he says, that's right.
Back to it.
He literally says, that's right.
Not going to comment, not going to investigate.
What were your thoughts on Gates's five minutes trying to get some kind of answer even at the end with January 6th and really putting him under the gun via the Hunter Biden investigation?
Was that question to me?
Yes, sir.
Okay, first of all, I just want to make a quick comment about Fasse before I move on to that.
Fasse was running gain of function experimentation in the United States prior to 2014.
By 2012, he knew that the strong forces in Congress were moving to ban gain of function research inside the United States and having the NIH directly pay for it.
So as my brother Dwayne mentioned, in 2012, Foster is taking preemptive steps to be able to continue gain of function research on bad coronaviruses.
He's planning to shift it from the University of North Carolina and Ralph Barrick.
He's planning to shift that to Ruhr in China with Lieber playing a role in helping to set up the transition.
And so that's why that happened.
Fossey, of course, needed to, he desperately needed to cover up what they did.
And so that's why he expended all that effort selling the natural origins theory of the COVID virus and trying to show, trying to prove it did not come from a lab.
It was not designed.
It was not engineered.
When it comes to Merritt Garland, okay, as Dwayne also mentioned, Garland was heavily embarrassed when he had to reverse himself on making David Weiss the special counsel.
Nobody was ever supposed to know any of this information that the IRS whistleblower was made public to the U.S. Congress.
And so Miller Garland seems like a colorless bureaucrat, but he does have an ego.
And he was very unhappy that he had to very publicly reverse himself.
Now everybody knows that Weiss had come to him and asked to be a special counselor, and he had turned him down.
Okay, and now because of all the evidence brought forth by the IRS whistleblowers and the evidence in the bank records showing all the payments through the shell company LLCs going to the Biden family members, he was embarrassed.
He had to very publicly reverse himself and say, okay, David Weiss are now a special counselor.
Ah, but they're still relearning.
They're still relearning to that.
And you see this at this hearing yesterday, because now every single question he's asked about Hunter Biden, about the Biden crime family, he can say, okay, I'm not investigating that.
The DOJ itself isn't really investigating that.
I've designated a special counsel over there that is handling all of this.
And of course, because that's an ongoing federal investigation, not only can I not comment on any, give any answers to the questions you're asking, David Weiss can't answer you either, as long as this investigation is ongoing.
Garland's Avoidance Strategy 00:02:55
So that's why, that's why that's why a lot of people believe that's one of the key reasons Garland reversed himself is because now he gets to avoid answering all these questions about the gun charges, the tax evasions, the LOCs, the grandchildren having a large funding deposited into bank accounts.
And then he gets to avoid talking about all of that.
He took full advantage of it yesterday.
So, Dwayne, where does the investigation go?
It was pretty clear in the hearings they would no longer include the burisma corruption and the 2014 and 2015 financial records.
Okay, I love the fact yesterday.
I think it was Gates that played the son of a bitch, got fired.
He also played that clip for Garland, right to his face.
Okay, where this is going to be headed, let me just point something out.
Although I found Garland's answers and his behavior yesterday absolutely deplorable and disgusting, it's not unexpected at all.
I was more angry at Maorkis when he was in front of Congress because he's sitting there and his whole attitude was, what the heck's your problem?
What's wrong with you people?
The border is secure.
The border is closed.
Well, what are you talking about?
Okay.
I hate that guy.
I literally hate him because I live in Texas and I understand what his inactivities and actually his promoting all of this is doing to not just my state, but my country, the country we all live in.
But getting back to Garland, understand something, folks.
Understand this?
The day James Comer entered all of those bank documents regarding the $20 million, that is the very definition of treason.
Okay, so it's been part of the congressional record since the day that happened that Joe freaking Biden and his crackhead son Hunter are traitors.
They have betrayed the nation.
That is part of the congressional record.
What you're watching right now is all of this stuff play out.
And I think one of the reasons for these hearings is, yes, they're basically a bunch of representatives sticking it to somebody.
I've read Mayorkas, Garland, some other people.
But this is a showcase of the American people.
Everything that people are being shown right now, especially with these last two hearings, Mayorkas and Garland, is showing people that the system is broken.
Garland is sitting right there.
Maybe he's a little flustered because maybe it's an ego thing, but he's sitting there and he's trying to deflect everything.
So literally, he's trying to remain in the shadows while under a spotlight.
And it's not going to work.
And it doesn't work.
And people are seeing that they have an attorney general who is a dishonest.
Former President's Surprise Visit 00:03:28
And pardon my, I'll use the word sheet.
He is a dishonest sheet weasel.
Okay, and this is going to play out.
I expect to see Garland removed.
And I mean before Trump comes back.
He's going to be removed.
The America First Congress is starting to flex.
Trump himself, if you've heard this, Trump said in Iowa, was it two days ago?
I think it was two days ago in Iowa.
I covered that live.
I think it was on Wednesday.
I'm not sure when it happened, when he was in Iowa giving those two speaks and Dubuque in that other town.
He said September 30th, he is going to, I'm not pressured, but he's going to ask Congress to cancel all funds slated by the Biden administration to resettle illegals.
He's going to call on them to cancel that.
That's Trump calling a shot beforehand.
He's not in office.
He's not president.
He's campaigning for president and he's calling on the America First Congress that he helped put into the House.
He's asking that America First dominated House to cancel the funds to resettle illegals in this country.
I'm waiting to see whether that happens on September 30th.
We got to take a break.
When we come back, I want to talk more about Trump 2024 and his trip to Iowa.
In fact, my little small town of Bettendorf, it is making sense of the madness with Brian and Dwayne Cates.
We'll be back after this.
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From all of us here at MyPillow, the former president also held a planned rally in Dubuque, but his stay on the campaign trail had a surprise stop.
Yeah, Mr. Trump went to the Treehouse restaurant in Bettendorf, much to the surprise of the people dining in there.
TV6's Brianna Bailog has a reaction.
Potential voters in the Quad Cities reacting to a surprise visit from former President Donald Trump.
He spoke in Makokoda in Dubuque before showing up at Treehouse Pub and Eatery in Bettendorf.
I mean, getting out of school and never think that the President of the United States would be at my job and I would have the honor to make pizzas for him.
Surprise Visit Rock Star 00:05:51
Colton Sheldon says he helped make 55 pizzas for the former president and his staff.
Along with the Treehouse staff, dozens of people showed up, most in support.
We think he's amazing.
I waited all day.
I got dressed up just for him and I do it all again.
So it's amazing to be able to have a candidate that's coming out and being able to do that and being able to out there and talk to the people, be up there and stop in for even if it's just five minutes, be able to come out there and say this is a great thing.
The Scott County Republican chair says it's important for candidates to include the Quad Cities on the campaign trail.
So many of the candidates just go to Des Moines, the Des Moines area.
So we work real hard to get candidates to come to Scott County.
So, when a former president comes again, because he was here in March, we hope it encourages other candidates to come again.
And remember that we vote in Eastern Iowa, too, and we have a lot of Republicans that's gotten counted.
So, we welcome them to come as well.
In Bettendorf, Brianna Baylog, TV6 News.
And according to the Trump website, the guy is clearly a rock star.
In fact, you know, this is my first national election cycle here in Iowa.
And no joke, I was eating there literally 24 hours before he walked in the door, had the Doc Holiday, a delicious half-pound burger, topped with pulled pork and cheddar cheese.
What more do you want, folks?
Best chicken sliders in town.
Guys, it is clear to me that the American people are behind Trump, right?
He is the candidate.
He's dominating in all of the real polls, but we still have the gaslighting of the mainstream media machine.
And to me, that's very apparent, especially with the UN General Assembly this week and Zombie Jay's speech there.
The man could barely speak.
We played it on my other show.
He was trying to say since day one, he says one day and one day of my administration.
He's out of it.
He can barely read off a prompter.
But what does the media focus on?
Standing ovation by all the bureaucrats and authoritarians over at the United Nations.
And they say Trump got laughed at.
Trump's the clear frontrunner.
That cannot be denied.
And when you look at this Daily Mail story, let's scroll through it.
I mean, the guy is signing people's chests like he's a rock star.
He's handing out pizzas.
He's giving them the finger, the point.
People love this guy.
So, Brian, what are your thoughts on the reality of Trump 2024 and what they're trying to portray Trump 2024 as?
Can you imagine Joe Biden trying to do that, walking through a piece of joint in a small town in Iowa, and have everybody mob him and sign a woman's chest?
And everybody's just loving it.
Okay, one of the things that's been happening in this country since the crime of the century back in November 2020 is that there's been a slow-rowing exposure.
It's picking up speed now.
It started very slow back in November 2020, but the momentum is really picking up.
People are realizing there's no way that that slow-moving, slow-thinking, oh, frail, feeble fraud got 81 million votes.
It's becoming more obvious than ever.
The guy who didn't even really campaign stayed in his basement mostly during that 2020 election soccer.
He did not really win that election.
That election was stolen from the rule winning.
They rigged it against him.
And then when he was beating their rig anyway, and winning by a comfortable margin on election night, they were forced to stop the vote, the vote counting, in several of the key battleground states.
And they were forced to go to Plan B, which was the massive barrel dumping in the middle of the night.
It took them an extra two days to come up with enough fraud to declare that Biden won by 81 million votes.
But, you know, people see like Trump going to the Iowa, the Iowa football game last Saturday, and they see the crowd mobbing him.
And they see him walking into a restaurant here.
And the stark contrast between Trump being a literal rock star and Joe Biden being this fumbling, bumbling, lost, cognitively challenged leader.
Okay, the contrast will become more and more stark, more and more in your face, more and more evident as the weeks and months roll by, as we head into 2024.
And even though many people are tribalistic, that's my tribe, Democrats and my tribe.
Even if they won't publicly say anything, they have eyes, they can see.
And people are starting to have their tribal allegiances of being challenged because the contrast between what we had under Trump and what we have with Biden is just getting to a massively devogent point that people are going to start coming out in the open there.
They're going to start feeling confident saying, yeah, things were much better under Trump.
It's obvious that people like Trump and he had that last election stolen from him.
Dwayne, what are your thoughts on the reality versus the illusion that is tried to be propped up by the mainstream?
Two Realities Collide 00:03:35
That's a good point.
One of my favorite memes is from an old 1950s science fiction movie called When Worlds Collide.
And we have two realities smashing together right now.
We have Trump's America first, MAGA reality, wanting to this odd concept that maybe your country should come first.
You're willing to be compassionate and humane towards other nations and other peoples when it's possible, but you have to be a pragmatist.
You have to be a realist.
Okay.
And what's happening with this is Joe Biden's corruptocrat, shadowy, almost anti-human at this point, not just anti-American, but anti-human with all the stuff they're pushing, the transgenderism and all that.
What we're seeing right now is the, and by the way, when it comes to who's, Joe Biden is obviously not home.
He's not the one running the show.
Everybody seems to think it's Obama.
It's not Obama.
This is Trump versus Valerie Jarrett.
I said it.
If I'm not on the list, I'm on a list now.
Remember back in the day when Roseanne was absolutely utterly canceled?
Canceled to the point I thought they were going to go physically go get her and take her to Kilauea and throw her into that volcano.
I thought that, I mean, almost like they were going to do that.
They absolutely unpersoned her and canceled her completely.
She's coming back, thank goodness.
But remember, what was her transgression?
She did a tweet about someone whose initials are VJ because she understands who was running that Obama White House for eight years.
She understands that.
Okay.
She was Obama's handler.
Who went with Obama when he left the White House and broke another tried and true American tradition, which is whenever the new president comes in, the president who's now leaving leaves D.C.
They leave the District of Columbia.
They go back home or they go somewhere else.
You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
Okay, that is literally an American tradition.
And Obama broke that, was the first person to break that tradition.
He bought a house in D.C.
And there's actually, there's a Debbie Mell story about this where he's planning is basically insurrection against to remove Trump from office.
And who went with him?
Valerie Jarrett moved into his house with him and Big Mike.
Okay, moved into his house in D.C.
She is now, if you're trying to figure out who's the architect of all of this pain that's being dumped on the American people, it ain't Obama, folks.
People keep saying this is Obama's third term.
It's not.
It's Valerie Jarrett, Valerie Jarrett's third term.
And by the way, when Garland was talking about, and I love my brother, Stole My Thunder, I was going to talk about how Garnenow just says ask Weiss, because that's one of the reasons he did this.
But when it comes to all the nations mentioned by Garland, North Korea, China, if you want to know when the CIA assets have been nullified in these nations that are hostile enemy states to America, wait for George Soros to say this nation's now a big threat.
He said it about China, which means all the Chinese assets that were being handled by the CIA have been nullified.
Invested In Something Else 00:15:21
Oops.
Okay.
Talking about North Korea, that was handled under Trump.
Okay.
Remember that basically he and Kim Kim Jong-un got along very well.
Okay.
All of those nations have CIA assets to cause conflict to keep the endless wars of the perpetual money machine, which is the war machine going.
All of those people in those nations, Iran, used to be China, used to be Russia, as a matter of fact.
When you understand when our war machine in DC starts pointing and getting ready to take somebody out, just understand they lost control of that connection.
That's what that means.
So at this particular juncture, and I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought.
I'm so sorry.
Wait, we got to take a break anyway.
When we come back, I do want, it's okay.
You had a Biden moment, and I want to talk Biden.
So it's a perfect transition.
We've got this poll from CNN.
Dwayne had his Biden moment.
We're going to give Biden his moment.
When we come back, it's Making Sense of the Madness.
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It's making sense of the madness.
And I often talk about the mainstream illusion.
And now the polls are coming in via CNN.
And they're saying, hey, Biden, he's got this thing.
He's leading Trump now in a New Hampshire rematch through disfat, though dissatisfaction, sorry, folks, with both remains high.
That's my Biden moment.
Now, obviously, this isn't a reality.
When we talk about the mainstream media, I don't know that CNN is much better than, say, a Fox News.
Fox News has Rupert Murdoch stepping down.
What can we expect by the mainstream media and their manipulation of the numbers?
And then, of course, the thoughts on this poll right here, which seems like it's out of something called imagination land, Brian.
Well, what they're trying to do here, they do this every election cycle.
They try to shape public perception by releasing these poems like this one.
The CNN just released, well, hey, sure, I mean, Biden's not doing all that well, but hey, look, he's still leading Trump.
And that's the takeaway you're supposed to get from this CNN poll.
One of the first things that an intelligent person thinks that when they start studying American political cycle is how the fake news, the mockingbird media, they put a lot of time and effort and resources into trying to shape the public perception of events.
Basically, they're propagandists.
Their job is propagandizing you.
And so they see Trump being mobbed at the Iowa football game.
They see the crowd adoring Trump at this pizza parlor in Iowa.
And they see the reaction of the crowds to Trump wherever he goes.
And to be good propagandists, to earn their money, they have to counter that.
So they go about trying to create a perception using polls and news articles.
Hey, guys, Trump isn't as popular as you think he is.
This is exactly what they're going to try to do for the next year.
This election cycle unfolds.
We're heading into the primary that starts in January next year, I believe.
And they're going to try to shape this perception.
Yeah, okay, Biden looks like he's struggling on some things.
Okay, yeah, Biden's not really doing all that good.
Hey, but Trump, Trump, don't buy into this idea that Trump is really popular.
Okay, that's not really true.
And they're going to be going all out.
They're going to be going all in to sell that narrative.
Biden, not as bad as you think.
Trump, not as popular as he looks.
And they're going to put a lot of effort into that.
Dwayne, what are your thoughts?
You know, we have these polls.
I think we're going to see more of them, just like your brother stated.
But we also have the news that Rupert Murdoch at 92 is finally stepping down from his media empire.
Yep.
I got that thought back.
I'd like to cover that real quick.
Basically, Trump is a man of the people.
Every politician, man or woman, if you look at the, I forget what you call it, anthropology of the human species, it's patriarch or matriarch.
And we have a new system, relatively new, on the world stage, where we vote for those who are going to be the patriarch or matriarch over various levels, you know, municipal, county, state, federal, which are going to have the authority to order our society and our nation.
Trump is truly a man of the people.
He's not posing.
He's comfortable in his own skin.
You can tell he's not faking, trying to act like a man of the people.
Joe Biden is a stuttering drone.
Okay.
And when it comes to Fox News, my thoughts are Rupert Murdoch was hanging on.
He's 92 years of age.
He was hanging on trying to defeat Trump.
He was hanging on.
He's 92 years old.
In his history, if you've studied his history and I have, he is a razor.
This is a sharp man.
He looks like a lot.
He looks like people think, oh, he's just an old, great-grandfather.
Who cares?
This guy's a multi-billionaire.
He didn't accrue that massive fortune and control that he bears over the airwaves by being a kind and gentle soul.
I'll just put it that way.
And now that he's stepping down, his children are going to inherit that son Lachlan is going to inherit Fox News.
I think this, he was hanging on trying to defeat Trump.
I think this stepping down is an admission of defeat.
It's an admission of failure.
And Lachlan, you are witnessing the end, the death spiral of Fox News.
It really started on that election night in 2020.
That's when it began.
That's when they lost massive support.
They lost me forever.
But what we're witnessing right now is it beginning to play out.
Now that Murdoch is stepping down and his sons are going to try to use what they've been handed to finish the mission.
However, they don't have the sense, the experience, or really the capability to do what he would have done.
So their continued campaign against all things Trump and America first, because that's not what they're invested in.
Trying to clear my throat here.
Understand, all of these people that are coming hard after Trump right now, they're not invested in the American people.
They're not invested in putting America first.
They're invested in something else.
And everything you're seeing right here is them trying to hold on to that.
It's them trying to keep it, maintain it, and grow it.
And right now, they're really going to look at America first as a legitimate threat because everything they're throwing at him and at us is not working.
We got to take one more break.
When we come back, we're going to have about five minutes left in the broadcast.
You guys can tell me what I'm missing this week.
We're going to continue to make sense of the madness after this.
We are back.
Final segment with Brian and Dwayne Cates.
Brian, what are we missing this week?
Well, I'd like to bring up the attempt to impeach Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton down in Austin.
I think a literal miracle came down in Texas this week.
The DAC was incredibly stacked against him.
I would encourage everybody to go to Twitter and watch Ducker Carlson's recent interview with Texas State Attorney General Ken Paxton.
It was amazing the amount of opposition he's faced.
They gagged him, they wouldn't let, they took any, take too long for me to list all the ways they stacked this deck against this guy.
They impeached him in the Texas House in secret.
They didn't allow any cameras in there.
They hit him with 18 different charges.
And then it looked really bad.
The whole power of the Bush crime family and the Carl Rogue gang was invested in getting this guy out of there.
He's been an incredible thorn in the side of the GOP establishment and the Democrats and the Biden administration for the past two and a half years.
And somehow, by some miracle, they let Cameron during the Senate trial.
You see, you can be impeached in the House, but it's the Senate trial, the Texas State Senate, where they actually have a trial where they decide if they're going to remove an impeached official from office.
Okay.
And somehow they decided to let Cameron and let people see what was going on while they were impeaching Ken Pacton.
It turns out that Pacton's lawyers did an incredible job.
They got witnesses to admit it on the stand they had no evidence for any of these charges.
And Ken Pacton was acquitted this week of all 18 charges he was facing.
If he'd been convicted on even one of them, he'd have been removed from office.
And so that was a massive defeat for the GOP establishment.
They were not able to take out Ken Paxton this past week.
We definitely have to celebrate those kind of wins.
Dwayne, in the last couple of minutes, tell people where they can find your stuff and what we're missing.
Okay, I'm on Twitch.
Let me see here.
Let me pull that up.
I got a sub stack, and I am sorry I'm not prepared.
My Thunderdome substack is Brent.
Yeah, BrentKates.substack.com.
And my Twitch channel, hurry up, hurry up, is twitch.tv forward slash Dwayne Cates.
And what we're missing this week, I'm cutting the throttle.
Oh, that's from the website.
Okay, what we're missing this week, I just want to go back to something Trump said during his two speeches in Iowa.
Both of them, the first one, I think it was the first speech he mentioned.
This is a heads up.
This is Trump calling his shot.
He's calling on the America First Congress that, if you remember, he campaigned endlessly and tirelessly for them to get that America First dominated Congress, which has now exposed the Biden crime family.
He called on people, he called America First Congress to cut the funding for the resettlement of illegal aliens in our nation.
And he called on them to do this on September 30th.
And I'm calling on all people that are interested and love your country and want to support Donald Trump.
Let's wait and watch and see what happens on September 30th.
Is Trump Trump going to strike out or is he going to hit a home run?
Dwayne, thank you so much for joining us, Brian.
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