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That Isn't So Cool Biden And Trump 2024 Obstacles With Greg Foreman And Chris Paul | MSOM Ep. 837

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Jail And Indictments 00:14:56
Welcome, Making Sense of the Madness.
I am Jason Burmese and today we're going to be talking Trump Biden robots in the subways of New York City and much more.
Our guests are Greg Foreman of the Black Conservative Perspectives YouTube channel and of course contributor Chris Paul.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
Two of the great artists of our time representing the groundbreaking legacy of hip-hop in America, LLJ Cool J. By the way, that boy's got...
that man's got biceps bigger than my thighs.
I think he's it's just unbelievable at this point, folks, that you have a man that can barely talk, obviously can't read, doesn't know where he is, doesn't know where entertainment or entertainment icon LL Cool J's actual name, and then calls a 55-year-old man boy.
This is what we're dealing with in 2023 on the road to 2024.
Joe Biden, an installed puppet, somebody who was dementia-ridden then, has run nothing since, and neither does his counterpart, Kamala Embarrass.
It has never been more obvious that we have a puppet administration in the White House.
And at the same time, Trump, somebody who actually tried to be the president and represent the people well, they don't want to allow him to run.
In fact, eight different states are now trying to keep him off the ballot under the 14th Amendment, under this imagination land that he was somehow a part of a non-insurrection.
And we can use the Espionage Act on him to talk about that.
And much more is Greg Foreman.
His channel is Black Conservative Perspective.
And somehow, some way, he's surviving and thriving on that platform.
So, Greg, thank you so much for joining us.
What are your thoughts on the idea of the establishment trying to not only put Trump in prison, but also keep him off the ballot entirely?
Because there's nothing that says somebody cannot run and win from prison.
Yeah, thank you for having me on your show.
I really appreciate it.
Well, what I think is going on here is obvious.
They're afraid of Trump.
They're afraid that he's going to win the election in 2024.
If you believe the polls, we just had an ABC Washington Post poll that showed that Trump was beating Biden by almost double digits.
Okay.
The real clear politics average has Trump winning.
And there's reason to believe that if the election was held today, that Trump would win.
He would beat Biden.
And that is why you're seeing a lot of this backlash towards Trump.
Again, they trying to throw the indictments at him.
That's not working.
His poll numbers are rising.
So now what you see happening is this effort from far-left grassroots activists at the state level to try to pressure individual state officials to keep Trump off the ballot, which theoretically is possible.
Now, it hasn't worked in some states like Michigan, New Hampshire, Georgia.
They've already said that Trump's name is going to be on the ballot unless the courts rule otherwise.
But I predicted that this is something that would happen when they bought the January 6th indictments against Trump, the Jack Smith indictments.
Said, well, this is a part of the effort from the grassroot activists in order to keep Trump's name off the ballot in some states.
They would make the argument that, hey, look at this indictment right here related to January 6th, related to the so-called insurrection.
And we're going to argue that, hey, this disqualifies Trump, even though he hasn't been convicted.
Okay.
He's not guilty of anything yet.
They're just trying to set the precedent that, hey, if you're just indicted, if you're just accused of, you know, an insurrection or whatever, then we could just keep you off the ballot.
But again, what it really is more than anything is just desperation.
They're desperate because it seems that Trump's going to make what seems to be a great American comeback and take the office back in 2024.
So again, they're going to throw everything they can at him.
And I'm going to be quite honest with you here.
I think personally that there's something coming down the pipeline.
I don't know exactly what it is.
I'm not sure if it's coming via this 14th Amendment thing, but I just think that there's reasons to believe that they're going to try something to keep Trump off of the ballot.
Not necessarily sure if it's going to work.
I actually just looked at a poll that showed that a significant amount of Republicans, I think probably 25% or so, would still write in Trump's name.
Okay.
And when I was actually watching that segment, the media was shocked.
It was like, even if they took Trump off the ballot, he would still get a significant amount of votes.
So I'm not even sure that can stop him.
But I think that there's reasons to believe that they're going to try something.
I think Republican candidates like Ron DeSantis are banking on Trump being out of the race.
So therefore, you know, I personally don't believe that it's going to work.
But at the same time, I'm keeping my eyes open to the possibility that they're going to try to throw something at Trump in order to keep him from being president again or keep him off the ballot in some way.
And I actually think that some people in the Republican Party are actually banking on that, specifically when it comes to the Jack Smith indictment against Trump.
Well, I think that most in the Republican Party are establishment right now and banking on some kind of deviation of that.
That's why I think they're trying to even pump, besides DeSantis, somebody like a Pence or a Haley as an establishment candidate.
You saw how much time they got during the debates.
I'll go a step further.
I do think that he's in trouble, not because he's guilty of anything, but because the court system in D.C. is obviously a fix.
You see what's going on in Georgia with the RICO case, and you're not even being able to present a case there.
And then the classified documents case in Florida is not only moving forward, but moving forward, in my opinion, as an alarming, an alarming direction.
Really, the flimsiest case, obviously, is the one in New York, and it also has the least amount of penalties.
Now, humor me for a second.
Let's say, because again, we've seen these trials be fast-tracked.
Let's say they actually put Trump in prison.
Now, it was my prediction in 2020 after they installed Biden and really not only relegated Trump to the bin of a domestic terrorist white supremacist supporting next Hitler, but, I mean, that's where we went with it.
And you depersoned him.
I mean, think about it.
After just the selection itself, selection night, every network banned him and he was only on C-SPAN.
And it only got worse from there.
So I said, look, they might leave the guy alone other than the court of public opinion as long as he doesn't run again.
I go, he runs again.
They're going to put him in jail, whether he's done anything or not.
And now you have these four indictments.
They've obviously timed them for primary season.
Let's say they get him in jail on any of these counts.
Number one, what does the country look like?
Because we've never done that.
And what is this guy's true crime?
In my opinion, it's not committing enough war crimes and at the same time, exposing the media-military-industrial complex in a way that the executive has never done before.
Yeah, so to answer your question about, well, what happens to the state of this country if Trump is thrown in jail?
I mean, that would be unprecedented.
Well, one, he would still be able to run technically, you know, because there's nothing in the Constitution that's barring him from becoming president of the United States.
And that's what frustrates a lot of these people so much is that even if they throw the man in jail, he'll still be able to be president of the United States.
Now, how that would actually work in practicality, we really don't know.
Okay.
But for the most part, I think Trump is banking on winning in order to avoid going to jail because I guess theoretically, if he was to win, he could partner himself at the federal level.
Now, when it comes to the state charges, I mean, the guy is president of the United States.
I don't think that he's going to be showing up to a county courtroom because of some local DA at, again, the county level in Georgia as president of the United States.
I don't think that's happening.
But if they actually did throw the man in jail, I think that we're going to be in a point of country where, you know, we could see an uprising, right?
And, you know, the bad thing about that is that that's what the liberal media wants, right?
This is why they're throwing all this stuff at him.
And this is why they want to try to get him convicted and thrown in jail because what they want is a January 6th part two.
They want to use that as a way to say, look, these people are violent, white supremacists.
We told you that these people are the biggest domestic threat to this country, right?
This is what they say, oh, white supremacy is the biggest domestic terror threat to this country.
And I think that's what a lot of this really is about.
It's about getting us riled up and making us commit acts of violence in order to use that against Trump and to make it harder for him to get elected.
And this is why, again, like you said, they're trying to fast track a lot of these trials and these cases because they want to try to get a conviction and then get some type of reaction.
Every single time Trump shows up to court, every single time one of these indictments was levied against him, the mainstream liberal media was looking out, where's the violence?
Where's the violence?
These people are so violent.
I'm telling you, they're going to riot in the streets, right?
And none of that has happened.
Okay.
None of that has happened because people become smart enough to understand after January 6th that we don't get the benefit of the doubt like Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden or the thugs and criminals that have taken over these main liberal cities.
We don't get the benefit of the doubt, right?
If we commit any type of act of violence, we're going to do a hard time.
They're throwing a book at us.
Just ask the leader of the Proud Boys who wasn't even at the Capitol, but yet got sentenced to like 20 years or something like that in relation to January 6th.
Again, it's just, it's one of those things where it's really more about getting the reaction that they want from patriots in this country in response to Trump somehow getting convicted or thrown in jail.
So let me agree with you there.
Number one, when we talk about the idea of an uprising, I posed that question to Joe Hoft of the Gateway Pundit.
I posed that question to activist in Canada, Chris Skye.
They both gave the same answer, a civil war.
Now, I'm going to tell you right now, I don't think that's even a real possibility, only because when we look at the first civil war, you're talking about a country of 30 million people.
You're talking about 10%, maybe, so 3 million people fighting that.
Number two, on that, transportation is very different, and the military doesn't really hold more arms than the private militia.
There is no technology barrier there.
All of those things are obviously very different right now.
However, as you stated, the media would love to play on the idea that there is a civil war and there is a violent conflict in order to what?
Bring in types of martial law, mass arrests, persecutions.
You talk about, for instance, the leader of the Proud Boys there and Tario got 22 years for not being there.
Forget about an act of violence.
And let's talk about January 6th.
Let's imagine it was actually an insurrection for a moment.
Let's say violence occurred on the level that the Capitol was actually overtaken and even senators and congressmen were hurt and they had the Capitol.
Does anybody think those people run the country?
Or do you rather think, I mean, seriously, does anybody think they did it?
We've taken over the government.
That's not what happens, everybody.
Within 48 hours, that entire building is swept.
You might even have the excuse to bring in United Nations troops for the first time and say, look at this mess.
And then you can do the mass roundups and the martial law and forget about domestic terrorism and white supremacy.
That narrative will go to a steroid level.
So it's a lose-lose.
Really, the only thing we have at this point and have had for a long time is peaceful civil disobedience and resistance.
And that's where we're going to have to move, I think, in the case of Trump being arrested.
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
I mean, you know, these left-wing activist groups, whether it be Black Las Mado or Roe v. Wade protesters, and, you know, you can name all of them and Tifa, they seem to be allowed to do that, right?
They're allowed to do that.
It's just the problem when we do it is that, again, we're held to a higher standard, right?
For whatever reason.
And I think that's why a lot of patriots are afraid to kind of speak up more, right?
Because, you know, they thought, the media thought, they swarming down.
Okay, these people are going to be out in droves, right?
Upset about the indictments against Trump.
And it hasn't necessarily happened to the level that they've expected.
So to a certain extent, the persecution of, you know, the January 6th tourist of the Capitol has kind of worked in regards to just, I think, making people kind of think twice about, you know, civil disobedience.
And again, it really is sad.
You know, I think that we should have the right to peacefully protest like everybody else, but I don't think we're going to get the benefit of the doubt.
And I think that to a certain extent, it does play into the media's hands in ushering in all of those things that you talked about, you know, mass arrests or martial law or whatever.
I'm not necessarily sure how the logistics of a civil war would work, right?
I tend to agree with you that I don't think that this country would actually have a legitimate civil war.
I think a lot of people do kind of, you know, peddle that idea, but I'm just not entirely sure how that will work logistically.
But, you know, I'm open to listen to anybody's theories about how that will actually happen.
But I hope that it doesn't happen.
I hope that Trump can overcome all the things that are thrown against him and ultimately win.
And we can get this country back on track.
Woke Corporations and Civil Unrest 00:02:56
I'm cautiously optimistic at this point.
Well, you're better than I.
But at the same time, hey, man, I'm a realist.
That's what I'm saying.
And I'm not trying to be, I've never been a walls are closing in guy.
I obviously don't want to see the guy go to prison, but I see things that I've never seen in this country before.
I saw an election stolen at a level I've never seen before.
I saw them install a dementia-ridden puppet who was a lifelong cartel criminal in the game.
I saw them militarize DC.
I saw them have a bunch of show trials led by a Hollyweird producer for January 6th and subsequently put people in prison for 10 to 20 plus years for not being there or shaking offense.
I think we're in trouble.
When we come back, I want to talk about the other side of the picture, the Democrats, their plans in 2024.
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We are back with Greg Foreman of the Black Conservative Perspective.
And, Greg, I want to get your take on the video that we watched earlier.
Mail-In Ballot Battle 00:15:04
Clearly, Joe Biden doesn't know where he is, hasn't run anything from the inception.
But the reality that we're sold on is that Trump is the bigot.
Trump is the racist.
We're sold that Larry Elder, for instance, is a white supremacist undercover going up against somebody like Gavin Newsom.
So, where do people go in 2024 if you're in the Democratic Party?
Because it looks to me like we're in a situation where they don't want debates, they don't want Joe Biden, but in that system, they'd like to install somebody like a Newsom.
And at the same time, they're still giving this.
I mean, these people are the same ones that said Trump wasn't mentally competent enough and wanted to take him out that way.
And this guy doesn't know who LL Cool J is.
I mean, we're in a really weird place.
So, what are your thoughts on 2024 from the Democratic angle?
And will Biden hang on?
Yeah, so I think it's an absolute disaster, right?
It really is.
Again, when you look at the polls, Trump is up in a real clear politics average over Biden.
Now, again, we all understand how elections work, generally speaking.
Now, again, I get it.
2020 definitely needs some question marks there in regards to what happened.
But when you generally look at it, the Republican doesn't necessarily need to win the popular vote.
Okay, they can win the electoral college and they can still win.
So, when you have a Republican winning the popular vote, which is what the current case is, if you believe the polls, then that indicates a very, very, very bad situation for the Democrats.
The problem is, is that this pitch of Bidenomics is just not working.
Okay.
When you have the average American household paying $700 per month more, okay, in bills, spending more money than they were before Biden took office, that hurts.
Okay.
When you have gas prices, the highest that they've been in a long, long time, again, that hurts.
When you have interest rates at the highest they've been in 20, 30 years, that hurts.
I mean, housing is unaffordable, okay?
Mortgage rates are out of control.
People simply are struggling economically.
However, the Biden administration is basically telling them that, hey, the sky is not blue.
And I think that people just aren't buying it.
They're not buying this message from the Biden administration about the economy.
And I think that is the main thing that is hurting the Biden administration.
And the problem is, is that they kind of bought it on themselves because they decided to spend more money than we needed to spend in 2021 with that massive trillion-plus dollar stimulus package that we just didn't need.
And that led to more inflation.
You had the lockdowns and you had the Federal Reserve having to increase interest rates at an unprecedented rate in order to compensate for all the money that was being put into the economy.
Again, we were paying people to stay at home, okay, to be unemployed.
And that just wasn't good economic policy from the Biden administration.
It has really hurt them.
And now the American people are, again, we're paying for all of that in the form of inflation and they just don't have an answer for it.
Okay.
The Inflation Reduction Act, aka the Standard of Living Reduction Act hasn't done anything, okay, to actually solve that problem.
He doesn't have any real wins that I think are affecting Americans in the wallet in a positive way.
And I think that is the biggest problem along with his age.
Like you said, he doesn't even know LL Kooje's name.
He doesn't know that he's a man.
He's calling him on a boy.
He's clearly not mentally capable of being president of the United States.
And that's also showing up in the polls.
People want a different candidate from the Democrats.
However, the guy that is running against Biden, RFK, they don't want him at all.
They don't want him.
They got Marianne Wilmerson.
She's like a far-left progressive.
Gavin Newson swears up and down.
He's not running.
And Kamala, in my opinion, I think she's as mentally incapacitated as Joe Biden.
I think as much as we talk about Joe Biden, I think Kamala Harris is just as bad as he is.
And I just think that they don't have a bench, right?
They don't have a bench of politicians, okay, or potential candidates that could step in for somebody like Joe.
And I think at this point, they're kind of forced with Joe, forced to stay with Joe because, again, the vice president, who is the natural successor, she's even more unpopular than Joe Biden.
So again, I think that Democrats are really in a bad situation.
I think they bought it on themselves.
They tried to convince the world that Orange Man was the cause of all of our problems when he was president, even though he clearly wasn't.
And I think American people are clearly seeing the contrast.
They're understanding that they were lied to by the mainstream liberal media.
They were lied to by Democrats.
And things are much worse for them under the Biden administration than Trump.
And again, I think that's why you're seeing Trump gather so much momentum is because it is clear in regards to people's standard of living in the economy that it's night and day between Trump and Biden.
Well, Biden is such an embarrassment at this point.
It's hard to believe that anybody can get behind him.
Even the mainstream media is talking about concerns of his age when they knew they were beyond those concerns.
You talk about Kamala Harris.
She was polling at 2% in 2020 during the debates.
That unpopular, that terrible.
I would agree with you.
They don't want RFK Jr. not only as the nominee, but they don't want him on a stage debating other Democrats.
And I think that's the main reason that they will stick with Biden through what I think they think will be another rigged election.
So let's address that.
I have people out there on the conservative side now talking about, hey, they're ballot harvesting.
We have to ballot harvest as well.
I would say that kind of attitude really enables the corrupt infrastructure.
Using the machines enables the corrupt infrastructure that allowed 2020 to occur.
Now, obviously, it was accelerated in large part to the COVID-19 4 nightmare and mail-in ballots.
But if they get a limited COVID-19 4 2.0 in certain states where they're able to get these mail-in ballots, I fear we could see the same type of results.
Yeah, no, I tend to agree with you.
I think that when it comes to ballot harvesting, I think a lot of people kind of misunderstand the advantages of it for Democrats, right?
When you live in a liberal city with a ton of Democrats, it's very easy to go from, you know, door to door to door in order to ballot harvest, okay, versus being in a more conservative rural area where, you know, your neighbor may live two or three miles down the road, okay?
And it's, you know, a lot more difficult.
It takes a lot more effort to actually get those votes and to get those ballots.
So I think it's a little bit of a different game.
Okay.
And I think Democrats have kind of mastered the game.
And I think that Republicans at this point, we really, I mean, it's a funny situation, right?
Because, you know, conservatives generally are for elections being localized.
Okay.
At the state level, but it's almost gotten to the point where Republicans or conservatives may need to get on board with kind of federalizing the election in order to make sure that, hey, you know, we get back to what works, right?
What we can all have confidence in, which is paper ballots.
You know, I think that election day should be a holiday.
Okay.
I think everybody should vote on the same day.
I think that there are a lot of reforms in place that conservatives should be advocating for, but it's going to require us to kind of get away from what we've typically advocated for because we see that Democrats at the state level have taken advantage of that.
And I think that it kind of puts us in a weird predicament going into 2024.
So again, it's really hard to say exactly how Republicans are supposed to respond in 2024.
But I do think that for the most part, we should be encouraging our people to get out and vote just as much as Democrats encourage their people to get out and vote.
I think Democrats, they're going to face the issue of getting people excited to actually vote for Joe Biden, which could lead to them, you know, doing more of the cheating, right?
Because it's hard to get people to actually go out and vote for a bad economy to vote for an empty suit.
But I'm just saying, I think that we just have to really vote more than ever before in order to counter whatever the Democrats are doing.
I don't want to get into the trap of basically saying, well, it's going to be not possible to win no matter what we do.
Because at that point, then that means like, what do you do?
Well, at that point, that's civil war.
And I don't think that that's the direction this country should go in.
I think that we still should have faith that we can still win regardless of, you know, what the Democrats are doing if we continue to vote and to do what we need to do as conservatives.
And then maybe in the future, start to push some more legislation that could instill more faith and confidence in our elections for both sides.
Because I mean, you know, the Democrats didn't have faith in the election in 2016.
You know, Hillary still is on TV.
Chi Won on TV this weekend talking about how Putin, you know, helped Trump steal the election in 2016.
So, you know, I think all around we need to do more to instill confidence in our elections.
I just think as conservatives or people that, you know, support Trump or whatever, we need to still vote, right?
We still need to do what we need to do.
We don't necessarily need to wait the election day.
We need to be early voting.
We need to do mail-in voting.
We need to be getting everybody we know to go out and to vote in this election because our country is on the line.
It really is.
I think it's on the line as well.
As far as the mail-in stuff and the ballot harvesting, I always have a problem with chain of custody there.
I would be in agreement with you, same-day voting, voter ID, national holiday.
I think that those are obvious solutions and it makes it much more difficult to cheat the system.
But instead of faith, I think we have to have a plan, right?
Because, you know, we can't just hope and believe that we're going to be able to change an already very corrupt system.
You know, I would argue it was pretty obvious that John Kerry won in 2004, but he took a dive for the Bush administration.
And now John Kerry runs much more of our foreign policy, especially globally, than Joe Biden could even dream of doing at this point because Joe Biden has trouble dreaming.
I mean, that's the reality, right?
Like, I mean, he's really running policy, whereas the other guy isn't.
So I think one of the solutions is we're going to have to get out there and do actual exit polling.
A lot of that wasn't possible with the massive mail-in ballots, especially when you had, what, 75, 90, 99% sometimes going to Joe Biden and then no audits after the fact.
I think that we'll be in for a very rude awakening and an unpleasant surprise if we do not, in fact, hold them accountable and somehow change the infrastructure.
How many people were talking red wave all the way back in the midterms?
I said, hey, man, we don't have real audits.
In fact, Trump trying to audit the election and just see the legitimate votes.
They've got him basically under the gun for treason for overturning the election or trying to cause a coup, which is all imagination land and Johnny nonsense until they put him in prison.
Greg, it has been a pleasure.
What would you like to leave my audience with?
I just want to thank you so much.
Thank you and your audience for having me on.
It's been an honor.
Okay, I would love to come back and discuss more of these issues with you in the future.
If you guys want to follow me, you can on multiple platforms.
On YouTube, that's my main platform.
It is Black Conservative Perspective on YouTube.
On Twitter is GFOM and BCP.
Okay.
On Instagram as well too.
And Facebook, Black Conservative Perspective.
Again, thank you so much.
I really appreciate it.
It has been an honor to have this discussion with you.
Love the conversation.
We're definitely going to have you back on.
And when we come back, we're going to be talking about robots in the subways.
It was a great idea to defund the police and allow the robots to come in, which we're now seeing in real time.
We'll be back after this with Chris Paul and make sense of that madness.
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It turns out neither do these new police robots you see when they're on your screen.
It's called K5.
It's soon going to start patrolling the city's busiest subway stations overnight to try and keep New Yorkers safe.
Mayor Eric Adams insists it is cost-effective.
Listen.
We're not buying, we're leasing $9 an hour.
$9 an hour.
This is below minimum wage.
You know, no bathroom breaks.
No meal breaks.
This is a good investment.
No bathroom breaks.
That's something.
Let's hope they work better than the delivery food delivery robots.
CSC, we got artificial intelligence RoboCop.
How far could we be from Terminator?
Not terribly far.
Nope, not terribly far at all.
And I warned people in the inception of the COVID-19 44 nightmare.
This would be a way for them to bring in automation.
Airport Biometric Security 00:09:41
Then all of a sudden, we started hearing about defunding the police.
Now, modern drones have already been used in law enforcement for some time.
They've broken out the robot dogs across the world and even in New York City for a short period of time until people said no, no, no.
And then the rise of violence in the subway has led to this.
And there are just so many things to analyze here.
I mean, think about the fact that the city won't even own these things.
They're going to lease them indefinitely at $9 an hour.
And hey, that's way better than like a human being that has to eat and go to the bathroom.
And, oh, I don't know, might be able to save your life in the subway if you are attacked, whereas the robot won't.
To talk about this madness and more is Amp News contributor and the host of the Be Reasonable podcast, Chris Paul.
Chris, great idea.
Let's have something with the color scheme of R2D2 and twice the size patrol the subways of New York City.
Gonna solve the crime problem.
Yeah, those things do look like fat R2D2s that are melting.
It's funny because these things were in video games like five, six, seven years ago about the dystopian techno future that we would inevitably have to embrace.
And I guess that moment is here.
It's funny that they are leasing them.
They are now paying all this money to the corporations rather than to hardworking New Yorkers.
It strikes me that the one major advantage from the dystopian point of view and from the regime point of view on these things is that they will be tapped into the kind of that overriding data source in the cloud.
And they're going to be scanning people's biometrics all the time and matching that to databases.
So they're going to look around the environment and know exactly who everyone is.
You know, the proliferation of cameras everywhere has increased.
I don't know if people maybe just don't notice that.
Next time you're going through security in an airport, I encourage you to look up at the ceiling, look all around the corners, look at all, like everywhere that can spot you.
Just scan your environment and see how many cameras that you will inevitably see.
It'll be 10, it'll be 20, it'll be 30.
They have you from absolutely every angle.
They're reading your biometrics just as your phone does every time you log into your phone, every time you give access to your face ID.
And, you know, they're basically creating this world where all of their technology knows who you are and where you are at all times.
And so this is just another element of that.
They're not there to protect you.
They're there to take your location data and all other variety of data as well.
I mean, maybe they'll report a crime at some point, but yeah, this just seems to me like a mobile data theft unit.
Well, my question is: how does this stop somebody from throwing you onto the subway or then picking you up from the subway?
And as Chris has, I don't think it helps at all.
What happens when it gets kicked over onto the tracks of the subway?
I mean, I'm being dead serious there as well, folks.
In case you don't know, like a human body that gets run over.
Tragedy one person.
That thing, I don't know what it's made of, but I can totally see it derailing a subway train, which by the way, they go past each other.
It could be an absolute nightmare and disaster.
But hey, nine bucks an hour.
And, you know, you talked about the camera situation.
I do want to point out that I had flown recently out to Las Vegas.
And this was, first of all, it was the second time that I've flown that we no longer do the shoe thing.
It's not if you say, see something, say something about the shoe thing, and you don't have to take your laptop out anymore.
And there's no big hubbub about that.
But what they do have you do, at least they had you do in Vegas, is they made you do an arm-in-arm slave march with another person.
So they put me side by side with another person.
And basically, after you had gone through security, you'd already gone through, you know, the machines from Michael Shertoff that were going to protect you and you got your stuff.
You then, you know how there's usually two lines for that, for the security there.
You then matched up with another person.
The security guard stopped you and they said, all right, you need to walk straight in a line together in unison and don't go ahead or behind anybody or you're going to have to start again.
And I'm like, what is this?
And then I realized this was like a 10-15 step path where they had open cameras, nobody around.
They not only have your biometrics, but they have your size relative to another person and they have your movement relative to another person if they have you pick up.
So just because you talked about that aspect of it, I thought we had to integrate that.
Now, the other aspect of it with all of this biometric surveillance and automation is how far are we going to take it?
Right.
Obviously, this thing is not armed in no way, like I said, can save you.
But in, say, Israel, they have the sharpshooter program where they have turnstile checkpoints.
And by the way, way, similar turnstiles in the subway, everybody.
Just want to let everybody know where they're armed at the top.
And if your biometrics come wrong, it's not even a human being.
It just shoots you and kills you right there.
100%, Chris, look up sharpshooter Israel checkpoints.
They're at the Palestinian-Israeli border.
They've been instituted now for over a year.
How far are we away from that if we accept this?
I mean, at this point, if people can't see that we are being ushered into the exact science fiction dystopia that our movies have suggested for decades now, I don't know what else it's going to take to convince people.
I mean, we live in essentially a security state.
And because it's not people, like in this example, enforcing every element of it, we just have a tendency to ignore it.
You know, we interact so much with our own electronics that we think other electronics pose no threat to us.
I mean, what else could they possibly do?
They're monitoring every single thing we do.
You know, what you just described with the airport is unbelievable.
And, you know, I had similar airport experiences recently.
You know, they had me, I have TSA global entry.
I, you know, I usually skip most of the security line.
I'll just put my stuff through the machine, walk through the checkpoint, grab my stuff and continue on my way.
They stopped me so that they could wipe down every one of my electronic devices.
And I said, isn't this like kind of borderline illegal search and seizure?
And they're like, no, no, no.
You see, you waived that right when you bought the ticket.
And that's really where we're at right now.
If you want to participate in normal life, you just simply waive your rights to all of your privacy and all of your personal information, including your biometrics.
The idea that they can record you walking and take that degree of information, what you just suggested, as the purchase price for you flying through McCarran airport is that's that's unbelievable.
Well, I'll tell you what, man, they had slot machines at the Vegas airport.
So there's that.
Like, I mean, you can gamble.
So, I mean, I guess they could just take anything they want.
The other aspect on Wheel of Fortune.
I don't know if you ever, it was the first time I'd ever actually been through Vegas International.
I've never, never, ever seen it.
I mean, as soon as you get out of the plane, it is literally like top to bottom casino town down the middle of a very large airport.
$6 a water, everybody.
Just want everybody, $6 water.
And I'm human.
So I need water.
The robots don't.
They just pointed that out, Chris.
And that's the other aspect of this is scary is that Adams, who's a former cop himself and knows that these things are just there for surveillance and really aren't going to be able to help anybody, but maybe after the fact, is gleeful that a human being's job is being taken for $9 an hour.
And this is that automation, really transhuman aspect that they are bringing in the AI.
They're bringing in the automation.
And human beings are starting to lose their jobs en masse.
Law enforcement, just one example.
Yeah, Eric Adams seems like he is the kind of the quintessential, really dumb, woke Democrat communist.
He went in as if he was the conservative alternative to Bill de Blasio, and there is no indication that he is even a normal, a person with normal brain functioning.
It is incredible listening to him communicate.
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He sounds like an idiot constantly.
The policies are terrible.
I mean, this is, if they were trying to shame the movement, they would have few better figures than Eric Adams.
You could name a few, obviously.
John Fetterman, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, people like that, Kathy Hochul.
But the roster of Democrats right now, if they set up all of these people just to shame the entire agenda and wake the country up to how dumb and evil the whole thing is, they could not be making better choices.
Chris, we got to take a break when we come back.
I want to talk about this idea that Trump can't be on the ballot in some states.
Eight states trying it right now.
We've got to take a break, but after this, we'll be back with more Making Sense of the Madness.
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And Chris, we've been actually talking about this for some time, and it's moving forward in eight separate states.
They're trying to get Trump off the ballot altogether.
And my question to you is: if they're able to do this in just a few of the big swing states, does that not put him in a position where he really can't win?
And if they're able to do this, say, in primary season with some of this insanity, doesn't that just set up one of their establishment losers to get in there and really, I think, be there to lose to Joe Biden?
Well, yeah, I think that they would love to try to eliminate Donald Trump during the primary process.
And it's clear that the Republican establishment would be happy to go along with that.
A state like California, for instance, who they're pushing to have this done quickly, you know, that's the sort of thing that would hurt Donald Trump in a primary.
But, you know, this kind of analysis always is a bit grating for me because I don't actually believe that this process that we're seeing unfold is normal or even necessarily real.
Donald Trump is going to be able to run as the third party candidate or a writing candidate.
If we have legitimate elections with handmarked paper ballots and one day of voting and the votes are counted legitimately and the machines are removed from the process, Donald Trump's not going to have any problem winning no matter what they try to do.
So this stuff doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
Winning a rigged election also doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
That is not a goal.
All of this assumes that the state is somehow above the people and is empowered to control the people.
Again, none of that is the proper state of being in this country.
That's not what our Constitution lays out.
That's not the principles that that doesn't reflect the principles that our founders set the country up around.
So all of this stuff is mostly meaningless to me.
This is not winning rigged elections is not what's going to get us out of the current problem that we are in.
Something else has to change.
The people need to take their power back.
We do not have to go along with what we are told by an illegitimate government.
And that is what we have right now.
It's an illegitimate government.
Zero Hedge made an interest proposed an interesting argument.
I think it was actually first printed in Epoch Times, but they suggested that in all of these Democratic states or states with Democratic governors, some of them may be swing states that might take Trump off the ballot, the Republicans could return the favor in their states by taking Joe Biden off.
And then we would end up with contingent elections where state delegations would determine who became president and the Republicans have the majority when you're talking about state delegations.
Now, that's the standard that should have applied in 2020.
And maybe we will eventually find out that it did.
But we don't have a legitimate government right now.
The legitimate government, therefore, cannot pass legitimate laws.
If we don't have a legitimate government and we don't have legitimate laws and we don't have legitimate elections, then all of these details about this illegitimacy are kind of irrelevant relative to the illegitimacy.
So until the illegitimacy is addressed directly, the rest of this stuff is just to me discussing the details of a fiction.
But we've got a legitimate media, right?
Especially Fox News, Chris.
And now with the news that Rupert Murdoch is stepping down, number one, listen, say what you want about the guy, lasted till 92.
Who knows?
Might even be alive for another decade.
Some of these ghouls absolutely last.
I mean, you look at somebody like a Rockefeller and a Kissinger, and I look at somebody like Murdoch as someone who has been as powerful and influential, especially in the media sphere.
I don't know that things are going to change much, Chris.
I feel like Murdoch was very much there to try to eliminate Trump from the 2024 race.
What are your thoughts on Murdoch stepping down?
And will there be any change in the direction of Fox News or the mainstream media in general after this?
Yeah, I don't know.
I think that a lot of people are suggesting that Fox began going downhill after Roger Ail's death.
And I'm not sure that the real situation, it's possible that Fox has just always been bad.
I believe that the regime media is legitimately a state propaganda media.
These media organizations reflect the world that the corporations that own them want to see.
They are trying to create a world in the collective consciousness that will allow them to increase their profits and increase their power and control.
And that didn't just start when Roger Ailes died.
Rupert Murdoch is certainly a key figure in that, but we are also in a period where people's interests are moving away from that mainstream centralized media with the that just projects different versions of the central narrative marketed to different people.
Fox News tells the same story CNN tells and the same story that MSNBC tells and the same story that the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times and Politico and the Atlantic tell.
This is the global corporate media agenda.
It is marketed to people who imagine themselves to be conservatives.
But as long as they go along with and reflect that central narrative, they are maybe unwittingly participating in the global regime's system and in the world the global regime wants to bring to life.
I think that we are seeing a period of great decentralization through all aspects of society, including and especially the media.
And so whatever happens with Fox News, I think will be largely irrelevant.
If Fox News wants to be relevant, then the only way that they can do that is by moving away from that central narrative and kind of more reflecting what alternative media is doing right now.
I don't imagine that they're going to do that.
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So I think that we're going to see them slide further into irrelevancy.
They have almost no talent left as it is.
Maria Bartaromo is okay.
Jesse Waters is okay.
What else is there?
Greg Gutfeld?
I mean, honestly, what else is there?
There's not a lot there, but at the same time, you know, it does have its audience.
Recently, I've been watching some of the Tucker Carlson stuff that's just dominating folks.
60 million views here, 80 million views there.
And he said, although he didn't know for sure what really was the straw that broke the camel's back, he felt like his Ukraine narrative and challenging that was something that was just unacceptable over there.
And really the narrative that was pushed by some of the other people that you just mentioned on the network, Jesse Waters being one of them.
So, you know, I don't know that there will be a shift.
I think we've already seen such a major shift in mainstream media to alternative media.
But again, we live in the post-truth world.
I don't know if you caught it, but Zelensky sitting down with Justin Trudeau, they had a member of the Canadian parliament actually talk up an ex-Nazi saying that he fought against Russian forces in World War II and not realizing he was a Nazi.
But hey, that fits in because we got current Nazis over in the Ukrainian conflict that they're cheering on just as much behind the scenes, folks.
Chris, we got to take one more break when we come back.
I want you to let us know what you got going on over at Badlands Media and more.
Hang on, buckle up.
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It's making sense of the madness.
We're with Chris Paul of the Be Reasonable podcast.
And let's be reasonable for a moment.
What else are we missing in this last five minutes?
Well, I love this Canadian Nazi story from over the weekend because this isn't Canada's first flirtation with Nazis.
In fact, I'm going to cover a little bit of this on my show today, but The Nation, a leftist rag, published a piece on July 21st, 2020.
The headline is Canada's Nazi Monuments.
And so they have a history there.
Most countries around the world do.
You know, when we go back through and check on our World War II history and how we were taught it, we begin realizing that maybe we weren't quite given the whole story about what exactly happened when we defeated those Nazis over in Europe.
We are, we know, obviously, that many of them spread throughout the world into South America.
They came here into North America and into the United States.
In fact, they began filling out our science community.
And you have to wonder about the effect of that when we get into a pandemic period like we saw in 2020.
Whose plans were those?
It really is amazing that we can be convinced of a history and the entire society will agree with that false history, rewritten, of course, by the winners, who will always recast themselves as the victims in any scenario.
And the actual victims, those people seeking sovereign nations and supporting sovereign nations and sovereign individuals as the perpetrators of all these great historical crimes.
So, you know, we're seeing a lot of like very soft and slow disclosure about some of these revisions of history that need to be corrected.
And I will just leave your audience with a little rabbit hole if you'd like to venture down it.
There is a great piece on Medium that I always point people to with the headline: Of course, Fidel Castro is Justin Trudeau's dad.
Nobody has debunked anything.
And I imagine, Jason, that you have probably gone through that one yourself.
And it is always stunning to me to see the difference that can make, to see how the wool can be pulled over people's eyes and then see that agenda actually reflected in the world that we are seeing as it takes shape right now.
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You know, you talked about the Nazis, and obviously you alluded to Operation Paperclip, where they were absorbed not only into our science, but our rocket programs with Werner von Braun being not only given a hugely prominent position within NASA, but also being the face of Disney for some time and space exploration.
That's the reality, folks.
As of 2013, there were still five, actually, I believe it was 600 million plus documents that were classified via the Operation Paperclip program.
And beyond that, folks, they were also heavily involved in our intelligence agencies' births, such as the Central Intelligence Agency.
A pleasure, as always, Chris.
We will see you next week.
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