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Naomi Wolf Vs The Liars | MSOM Ep. 808

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Naomi Wolf On Election Harassment 00:14:38
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
I am Jason Burmese and today we have a very special show for you.
We have author, investigative journalist, and true feminist icon Naomi Wolf with us to help us make sense of the world today.
Back after.
This is what I want to get into, part five of this, the harassment of citizens groups, because you discussed how you know,
these people who were against the Republican National Committee are now being charged with terrorism.
They might do eight years in prison.
But recently, we've seen a slew of documents kind of get leaked to our offices and now covered by the mainstream media, including the MIAC report and the Virginia Fusion Center document, where they openly state that, you know, I went to your Facebook and you have a Don't Tread on Me flag as one of your pictures.
Well, if you have that flag as a bumper sticker, you may be an extremist or a terrorist.
And according to these documents, if you are, you know, a member of the Constitutional Party or Campaign for Liberty or support Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, or even Ron Paul, who is a Republican candidate for president, you may be an extremist militia member or a terrorist.
I mean, let's talk about the harassment of citizens.
Slow down, Jason.
I just heard about this today.
I think that you've got documents.
We had a sheriff send us.
Well, a sheriff.
Here's the deal.
We had a sheriff send us a law enforcement sensitive document about three weeks ago.
It was called the MIAC Report.
And in the document, they literally show you five separate American flag bumper stickers that are no good.
The Don't Tread on Me bumper sticker.
We got it up at prisonplanet.tv right now for viewers.
In the document, let me just read it for you right here.
Political paraphernalia.
Militia members most commonly associate with third-party political groups.
It's not uncommon for militia members to display Constitutional Party, Campaign for Liberty, or libertarian material.
These members are usually supporters of former presidential candidate Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr.
And then for anti-government propaganda, they commonly display picture cartoons, bumper stickers that contain anti-government rhetoric.
Most of this material will depict the Federal Reserve System, IRS, FBI, ATF, CIA, UN, law enforcement, and quote-unquote new world order in a derogatory manner.
So that document came out.
Slow down, Jason.
So they're identifying these people as what?
They're identifying them as terrorists.
That was an interview from almost 15 years ago based on her book, The End of America, which was a warning to young patriots.
I was a young man of around 30 at the time.
It was turned into a documentary film, and she has been a champion for truth since.
She is one of the very few people on the so-called left that stood up against the COVID-19 agenda.
Naomi, thank you so much for joining us.
I want to get your perspective on watching that and thinking about what you wrote now 15 plus years ago as a warning and how it has now come almost full circle into fruition where the DOJ is fully weaponized against the American public.
Yeah.
I mean, look, you know, that clip is so intense and disturbing because I was so shocked.
You can hear the shock in my voice 15 years ago that law enforcement was out of control and the intelligence agencies were out of control.
And they were identifying First Amendment protected speech as criminal.
And now, 15 years later, you know, the warnings I raised at that time in my book, The End of America, have been fully proven out.
In that book, as you recall, because we talked about it, I laid out a map.
There are 10 steps to fascism based on historical times and places when tyrants on the left or on the right sought a fascist outcome.
And these steps are always the same, they always work.
They're kind of a roadmap.
And we're at step 10.
We're at the last step, which is the declaration of an emergency, emergency law, and the end of civil law, the imposition of martial law or emergency law.
So that's step 10.
And once you're at step 10, you don't get your republic back.
But I was just talking earlier today in another podcast about the indictment of President Trump and an essay I wrote about it, in which I pointed out this indictment is, you know, half of it is about thought crime, right?
Half of it is criminalizing speech.
And that's exactly what you and I were talking about 15 years ago: the criminalization of speech in a country that nominally has a First Amendment, which protects speech and doesn't create, doesn't punish pre-crime or thought crime.
Well, not only criminalizing speech, but changing what words mean.
For instance, with the charge of disenfranchisement of voters, disenfranchisement used to mean I didn't feel like I was politically represented.
I haven't for 20 plus years at this point.
There's a lot of people that feel that way.
It's not a criminal offense.
However, it gets subverted and changed over time to actually deny an individual the right to vote.
So now your speech, which may or may not be true, takes away somebody's free will, which they no longer have to vote.
And we're charging you with a felony.
And it's not just you, we're charging the former president of the United States with that.
It's a complete inversion of reality.
Wow, yeah, I hadn't thought of that.
I mean, so many.
So I was a political consultant for Gore 2000 and also four years prior to that for Clinton's reelection campaign.
And I was there in 2000, and I made this point in my Substack essay about the indictment when both Gore and Bush Jr. were doing exactly the same things that President Trump has been criminally charged for doing.
Both of them, both Gore, both vice president and George Bush Jr. denied, were election deniers.
They both denied and denied and denied the declaration that the other side had won.
They denied it publicly.
They denied it on television.
Both of them strategized with their lawyers to find legal theories to disprove the other side's claims, which is again exactly what President Trump is being criminally charged for doing with his lawyers, legal theories, right?
That's what lawyers do.
Both of them stopped everything.
They stopped everything for six weeks and all the way up to the Supreme Court because, and that's what you're supposed to do in our republic.
You're supposed to stop the counting of the vote if there are questions about the vote.
You're supposed to investigate every single vote.
And both Gore and Bush did that.
And President Trump is charged with having stopped, you know, the counting of the or the certification of the votes.
Well, that's what he's supposed to do if there's a question.
Both of these people poisoned the national atmosphere.
That's called politics.
The example I give is kind of genius on the Bush side.
They coined the slogan, sore loserman, in November, you know, which is early.
You know, while there was still a lot of question about who had won, they issued the sore loserman meme, and that was intended to communicate that Gore had won and he should do the, I mean, lost, I'm sorry, and he should do the gracious thing and concede.
Well, and the Gore team was trying just as hard to persuade the electorate that the opposite was true.
So, again, that's part of this indictment of President Trump, that he poisoned the national environment as if we're babies and can't be trusted to listen to two sides vociferously contesting an election.
So, the point I made about this indictment is that President Trump really isn't the target of this indictment, although it's unfortunate that he has to kind of live through it.
We're the target because what this does is criminalize in the future any candidate raising questions about the outcome, the declaration by the Washington Post or CNN or the New York Times that ex-candidate has won.
And it definitely criminalizes the act of citizens raising questions or insisting on having their votes be counted.
And you put that side by side with the criminalization of protest.
You know, at January 6th, I don't support violence, I support peaceful protest, but basically, both of these are conditioning American citizens to not protest, not question elections, not stop everything to recount the vote, not challenge the vote.
And they're threatening lawfare against every candidate in the future.
It doesn't just cave when the New York Times declares a dear leader for the American people.
Well, in stark contrast to 2000, when there was somewhat of an audit of the election, you had a lot of physical ballots.
And one of the most disturbing trends that I've seen is these voting machines.
Obviously, Dominion is the name of the day, but I would argue in 2004, Diebold was just as questionable, if not corrupt.
I think that John Kerry actually won.
How dare I say that?
But as we got further along, we were no longer allowed to even question those machines.
It became proprietary software, and we, the people, really have no recourse on a general audit of a national election or any election that uses these types of machines, correct?
You're absolutely right.
And I wrote a piece about this as well.
I'm CEO of a tech company.
And so when I went to vote in Columbia County, what I saw was absolutely ridiculous.
If you know anything about digital technology, we were handed paper ballots.
We filled out our paper ballots with pencils.
No one asked for ID.
I tried to volunteer my ID and we were assured by the Democrats as if it was a good thing.
No, no, no, you don't need ID.
Well, that's not great.
How do you know this is my ballot?
But anyway, when it was time to have my vote be counted, I was told to feed my paper ballot into a machine that scanned it.
And that's it.
I didn't get a receipt.
I didn't get any documentation of what I had done.
It went into this hopper that nominally scanned it.
But anyone who understands digital technology knows that that program, if you can't see the code, right, and none of us are allowed to look at the code, as you point out rightly, if you can't see the code, you don't know what it's been programmed to count.
It could count every three Republican votes as one vote.
It could count every 10 Democrat votes as one vote.
It could, you know, not count anything.
And an algorithm could produce a close election, you know, benefiting one side or another.
You literally can't know.
And the other thing is, I couldn't believe this was true, but these machines do link to the internet.
And what that means is that someone in a foreign country who has the credentials can change the outcome.
Or somebody posing to be in a foreign country can change the outcome, a number of things.
And oftentimes on the run up to the 2020 election, because they were talking about mail-in ballots being the big controversy, and I'm no fan of mail-in ballots, they referred to the Carter Baker Commission.
But what they never really talked about was the fact that Jimmy Carter talked about these machines and even said we didn't even have a 3% audit of these machines.
And I was kind of taken aback by that because just asking for a 3% audit, I don't want 3%.
I don't want 10%.
I would say 30% to 50% might be bare minimum.
We have all this technology.
It seems like we should be using it to empower the people and accountability and our system.
Instead, we're just told we have the freest, fairest, safest elections in all the world.
And if you disagree, we're going to criminalize that.
Yeah, it's called election denialism.
Exactly.
And by the way, President Carter didn't conclude that we had the freest, fairest elections.
I mean, he may have more recently, but that's been a position change for him.
At the time, he was warning that we had like third world level flaws in our voting system.
So you're absolutely right.
And the other thing that the American system is supposed to do, in the 19th century, ballots were counted.
Of course, paper ballots were counted publicly.
There was a raised dais and people, it was, you know, Election Day was a big civic holiday and people would gather in their community and watch the votes being put on this stack or that stack publicly, full view of everybody.
And bit by bit, you know, the people have been removed and now it's just observers.
Well, and then the observers are removed and now you can't see the code.
So basically we have a completely opaque system now.
You can't check it at all.
So one thing that I'm proud to announce is that Daily Cloud is spending the next 13 months passing a model election integrity bill in 50 states, hopefully and federally, where we'll go back to what has worked.
Oh, sorry about that.
There are people working outside this apartment.
Please pay attention to the men outside my window.
What we have to go back to is paper ballots, same-day voting, voting with ID, public counting, and being allowed to take a picture of your ballot so that if there's any dispute, you can upload it digitally if you want to to a third-party platform and there can be an independent citizen tally of the votes.
Passing Election Integrity Bills 00:08:04
All of those things have to happen.
We didn't used to have, I mean, in New Hampshire, for instance, I was just talking to a former legislator in New Hampshire and I said, can I look at your election integrity bills?
And she said that they're not relevant to our state.
We do paper ballots, same-day voting, voter ID.
You know, we don't have arguments about who won.
So there are still states where they do it right.
They haven't gone to these opaque and completely unverifiable scanners.
And literally, I mean, speaking as CEO of a tech company, if I can't see the code, which I can't, that scanned my ballot, I have no way of knowing if the ballot was scanned correctly or added incorrectly.
I have no way of verifying that my vote was counted.
It's the biggest scam in American history.
And then who calls the vote?
Who decides, right?
I mean, with this indictment, you can't see what happened to your vote.
CNN calls the vote, and you have no recourse.
You don't even know what the rules are in your precinct or in your county for the most part.
So we have to change that, and people have to take back the way we counted the votes in the 19th century.
And my biggest fear is that they're not going to give Trump true discovery.
They're not going to let him argue a lot of the evidence in a rigged system.
That's what we've seen more and more of.
And we saw during the 2020 election where they constantly just said, look, there's no standing.
We don't need to look at anything.
And they are so opposed of that one person, one paper ballot, and voter ID.
I know it's so scary.
It's so out there, guys.
We've got to take a quick break from this incredible interview with Naomi Wolf, but we'll be back after this with more Making Sense of the Madness.
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We had
a lot of hope that this administration was going to be getting people out of Iraq, out of Afghanistan, out of the Middle East in general.
And, you know, from what I've seen, we're seeing a large redistribution of forces from Iraq into Afghanistan.
Even with the official plan, Obama plans to have 50,000 troops in Iraq at the end of 2011, you know, conveniently for another election year.
I mean, how do you feel about that?
What do you think about what's going on in the Middle East right now?
Wow, well, that's a giant question, Jason.
I mean, I have to say I didn't owe 50,000.
Yes, absolutely.
Well, I do look, how can I put this?
I spent many years by marriage around people who were involved in the Clinton White House and sort of watching day by day, you know, how an administration functions at that level.
So I'm not as black and white as I used to be about the demands of international foreign policy.
I think that while I personally would love to bring every man and woman serving Iraq, every one of our brave warriors home, there could be legitimate reasons to keep a security force there for a transition.
That seems like a big one.
Obviously, I'd like to see it smaller.
I do believe that Afghanistan needs our military attention.
I do.
I would love to be a total dove and say, bring them all home, but there is a presence that I do believe that we need to have there until things are more stable there.
But truly, the key to peace in the Middle East is one that it's going to be hard for the United States to take because of the, and I'm Jewish, so I say this, you know, very advisably: we have to change, we have to be more even-handed in our approach to the Israel-Palestine conflict.
Right now, we're not even-handed because of the strong influence of the Israel lobby.
And again, I've lived in Israel for many years.
I'm, you know, I'm Jewish, I don't say this lightly.
But there is this outsized pressure to support Israel at the expense of hearing the voices of Palestinians.
And when America can intervene as an honest broker and really bring all stakeholders to the table to build a strong civil society in the Middle East in that region, that's when other pieces of the puzzle in the Middle East will fall into place.
And we are back with more of this incredible interview with author, investigative journalist, and true feminist icon, Naomi Wolf.
Now, you also said something else that I think is really important.
You talked about Jimmy Carter and him kind of flipping, and he went that whole Trump one in 2016 because of the Russians route, which was really disappointing.
You haven't been disappointing.
Okay, you've stood your ground, and you really showed it during the COVID-19 44 nightmare, where so many people on the left refused to question the virus itself, but then even more egregiously refused to question the shots that were really Defense Department, I would say techno-medical bio-fascist driven with Moderna,
Women's Reporting Censored 00:15:03
a zombie company that partners with DARPA in 2013 to develop this mRNA technology.
Yeah, I hate to agree with you, but I do agree with you.
We have a project in which War Room Daily Cloud partnered, my company and Steve Bannon's platform, War Room, partnered to put out a call for experts to read through these tens of thousands of documents released under court order, internal Pfizer documents that the FDA, which has custody, asked the court to keep hidden for 75 years.
And the judge said no, they have to be released.
So we asked experts to volunteer to read them and explain what's in them because they're very technical.
So we have doctors, nurses, biostatisticians, medical fraud investigators, research scientists, biological scientists, highly credentialed people, now 3,500 of them, who have issued nearly 70 reports that all of you can read on dailycloud.io or in the book that we produced of these reports, the Pfizer Documents Analysis book.
And they found that these injections are indeed the greatest crime against humanity in recorded history.
And I have reluctantly concluded that it is a bioweapon because of the involvement that my independent reporting has found of BioNTech creating basically a joint company, thank you, that's the book, a joint company with the Chinese Communist Party and transferring the tech and IP in these injections in 2021 entirely to China.
So now China has opened 14 manufacturing plants in Western Europe, two in the United States, one in Andover, Massachusetts, and one in Princeton, New Jersey.
And so now when you get a Pfizer injection or after 2021, you're getting an injection that's developed, formulated, distributed, manufactured by our existential adversaries.
And the other evidence I have is that in the adverse events table, and there are horrific adverse events at industrial scale that I don't even have time to touch on now, except to say they focus on disrupting human reproduction.
There is a disproportionate number of adverse events in the United States, North America.
Second largest tranche is Western Europe.
All the rest of the world combined, all 52 countries, adds up to only 7,000 adverse events.
So this injection can be formulated to be more or less lethal based on things as simple as brand and with Moderna three times as lethal as Pfizer or things as simple as storage temperature because when the lipid nanoparticles are warmer, they coalesce, they aggregate and cause clotting and other problems in the blood.
So this is clearly a bioweapon.
And I talked about the disruption of fertility.
There's now a million missing babies in Western Europe.
And there's a 13 to 20% drop in Western governments, government databases in live births.
And, you know, just since, well, in the last two years, since this injection has so badly damaged women's reproductive capacity.
And I'll just remind everyone that I was deplatformed and my entire career was taken away from me.
And I was globally smeared in 2021 when I correctly warned women that women were reporting menstrual dysregulation upon receiving these mRNE injections.
So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if women are having horrible menstrual problems in 2021, bleeding every day of the month, bleeding twice a month, passing horrible hemorrhages and tissue that they've never seen before, agonizing cramps, endometriosis, 10-year-old girls bleeding, 80-year-old women bleeding.
You know, if you're seeing that in 2021, you're going to see fertility problems in 2023.
And that's exactly what we have.
Well, again, that's why you're admirable because you were reporting that.
And even today, the focus largely on the side effects is myocarditis, and people aren't talking about the reproductive damage.
Now, you hinted on the fact that you were deplatformed and smeared in the media.
And I know that that was a big wake-up call for you because you traditionally, even if you've had some pieces about you that were maybe in a negative manner, been embraced by the mainstream media for the most part and much of the quote-unquote academic left.
And this was a barrage.
But then to see the massive deplatforming and what we now know about what was really what I say is a circle of plausible deniability.
You know, the feds will say, well, we didn't censor anybody, but you told the tech companies to.
And the tech companies say, well, we didn't really censor anybody that they didn't tell us to do that to.
So it was okay.
And then you had the authoritative sources with YouTube, for instance, the largest technopoly in the world, in my opinion.
I mean, number one search engine in the world, number one operating system in the world, Android on all these devices.
Chrome, the number one browser in the world, the number two search engine in the world is the number one video platform in the world, and that's YouTube.
And they're taking their orders from the UN and the World Health Organization, but they don't have any real power.
They're just giving suggestions to our CDC and FDA.
And then the authority trickles down.
So what was this experience like?
And how do we hold anybody accountable for this censorship?
Because it's continuing to this day.
Yeah.
What was this experience like?
I mean, very life-changing, very shocking.
I guess that first thing I would like to stress is that, you know, in 2021, I was made public enemy number one, persona non-grata in media for doing what I've done for 35 years and doing what I've done for 35 years,
which made me for 35 years a darling of the media on the left and a columnist at The Guardian and Project Syndicate and the London Sunday Times, all these places that were calling me now a conspiracy theorist and an anti-vaxxer and all of these names.
I mean, for 35 years, I've been reporting on women's health issues and especially focusing on sexual and reproductive health issues, silicone breast implants, vaginal mesh, marina, you know, thalidomide, you know, too much estrogen and birth control pills.
I mean, it's not news that pharmaceutical companies exploit women to sell products and that over and over again, there's a big PR push.
Women take the new product or get the silicone breast implants or vaginal mesh or take the estrogen-based pills.
And then there's a, you know, their side effects.
That's an absolutely standard curve, right?
Or, you know, it's pulled off the market.
And so this is not news.
So it was super weird for me that, you know, the same kind of reporting that had made me a beloved feminist icon for 35 years was thrusting me into a completely new cultural category.
Now I'm supposed to be a Trumper And, you know, I hang out.
I mean, I've lost my liberal credentials, even though I feel like I'm just being a classical liberal.
And all of the places that used to, I was basically fired by all of my employers.
You know, I had a six-figure investor withdrawal from my company based on the smearing and attacks from Twitter.
And now a lawsuit by Attorney General, the Attorney General of Louisiana, has found that the White House directed Twitter and Facebook to deplatform me for my accurate tweet warning women about menstrual problems and to put out a bolo of be on the lookout for this kind of view from me.
And the smearing globally was only possible because Twitter provided tweets that didn't exist because I immediately deleted them because they were badly worded to media around the world.
And I didn't at that time understand the role of AI.
Now there's AI creating journalism.
So I didn't understand how there could be the same hostile articles trashing my reputation simultaneously in dozens of languages around the world.
But now I understand it's AI.
So basically, I was completely shut out of my career as a, you know, well-established, famous, successful, highly compensated global commentator.
And all of those editors don't take my calls, don't respond to my emails anymore.
I was thrust into outer darkness.
Luckily, I found a new audience, but it was very shocking to, and it was shocking because it was not fact-based.
And whenever I tried, the other super creepy thing that anyone on the left will relate to is that whenever I try to bring evidence to these people in the legacy media or on the left, they can't hear it.
It's like la don't tell me, don't tell me.
I don't want to know.
And that's disorienting because I care about facts and I care about truth and I'm a journalist and journalists are supposed to be open-minded and examine the evidence.
So in many ways, it was shocking, continues to be.
Well, you're not supposed to do your own research anymore, don't you know?
I mean, that's a bad thing.
That's what they're telling us all.
Again, it seems very, very bizarre to anybody that has been engaged and has been paying attention and has been questioning the establishment.
But the question is, can we get around this censorship?
I know there's other platforms out there.
I know you found a new audience, but not only are we not on a level playing field, but even people like Elon Musk, who a lot of people aggrandize, I'm really not a fan, tell you it's not just freedom of speech, it's freedom of reach.
So many of the algorithms are out there.
And a guy like that can sit here and he can criticize the vaccines, in my opinion.
But at the end of the day, his company, Tesla, partnered with CureVac and printed up a bunch of these shots in one of those big contracts.
So he has a huge conflict of interest and so many other military industrial complexes.
Oh, you didn't know that?
No.
Whoa.
Oh, I did not know that.
Elon Musk, Naomi, just so you understand, made more money during the pandemic than any of the other billionaires.
He increased his wealth 600%.
He stacked up huge in that because he printed up the material with his biological molecular printers from Tesla.
Everybody thinks that Tesla is just a car company with the quote-unquote green agenda.
Another kind of WEF thing.
No, it's also behind automation and not automation that really works.
He's building, for instance, the Optimus robot.
Do we really need a humanoid type robot?
Is that going to open doors in business for us?
Or is that to acclimate us further?
I mean, I could continue on Musk, but we've only got about 12 minutes and I want to use all of them to really talk to you about not only how we're not on the level playing field, but it seems like they're able to push a great narrative through censorship and then the inability of us to audit anything.
So in other words, the authoritative source on the shots, they're still able to say they're safe and effective and they're out there and they can still de-platform people.
And right now there's no criminal repercussions.
And on these platforms, they're essentially protected not as editors, but as quote unquote publishers.
And they're clearly editors, so they can't be sued.
Berenson had a little bit of success.
When are you suing?
I am suing.
I'm already suing.
And respectfully, I think Berenson had success because he made a deal with Twitter.
Berenson called me batshit crazy when I rightly and correctly warned that women were having horrible, debilitating, disabling menstrual problems.
I think that's very sexist.
I think it's sexist to belittle it.
I'm not batshit crazy.
He never apologized, but his prominence on Twitter and the fact that he had done that was often used in these articles to smear me and condemn me.
And I'm just also going to break another story, and you're welcome to go with it.
But at one point, Berenson called me.
I never gave him my phone number, to my knowledge, and urged me and said, you've only got one day, you've only got to a close of business today to settle with Twitter.
And I'm like, I'm not going to do that without talking to my lawyer.
And he's like, no, no, you've got to accept their offer right now.
And he's not my friend.
So I can't imagine why he would have made a call like that or why he would have out of the blue called someone who's largely aligned with his critique batshit crazy with no evidence unless he had a deal with Twitter.
So I think it's really interesting that he got a settlement and we've sued Twitter.
Our lawsuit is ongoing now for about a year.
It's very expensive.
And we have not had a settlement from Twitter.
Anyway, I'm suing, but this gets very tiresome and very expensive.
And I guess what I would like to say as a citizen of the United States is, I don't want to have to sue people to have freedom of speech.
It's wholly unlawful for the White House to collude with any private company to censor the speech of American citizens.
It's absolutely unconstitutional.
I shouldn't have to hire a lawyer to have my constitutional rights not trampled.
So I object to all of this.
Like people are so grateful that they can talk reasonably, minimally freely on Twitter again.
I think it's disgusting that we're being conditioned to be grateful that oligarchs don't completely trample our free speech rights.
The other thing I would say is, you know, and I said this in my book, The Bodies of Others, the more we yield our civic speech to these digital platforms, the more at risk we are because they're just harvesting our data.
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They can switch us off at any time.
And, you know, when we abandon, as we have when the lockdowns did this intentionally, we abandon town halls.
We abandon, you know, printed newspapers or independent newspapers.
We abandon gathering as neighbors.
We, you know, abandon Main Street where we talk to other human beings.
We abandon places where we lobby, going to the Capitol, you know, demanding FaceTime with our representatives.
We abandon all of that and we accept this shiny bauble, which is, oh, you get to like mouth off with an emoji on this platform.
That's a distraction.
I mean, we are not empowered by these platforms.
My platform empowers you, Daily Cloud empowers you.
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It's a can't miss with Naomi Wolf.
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call kirk elliott phd at 720-605-3900 hi this is sean morgan and this is an amp consumer report we interview patriot business owners who are creating a parallel economy I'm here with Jesse Siegel of Card Solutions.
And Jesse, we've had a big problem with financial institutions debanking patriot business owners.
This happened to me, it happened to AMP News.
So, it's good to know someone in your industry actually stands for freedom.
So, if a Patriot business owner already has a payment processing company, why should they switch to you?
Simply because I'm going to eliminate their processing fees.
Expensive credit card processing fees are hurting patriot businesses.
Right.
And tell me about the customer service because how does it work with the other companies?
Do they have to wait on the phone and wait for someone from a foreign country to talk to them?
Yes, the sales rep generally is not responsive.
They're not returning phone calls.
I handle it differently.
I'm available seven days a week for my customers.
That's great.
Seven days a week.
Usually that's not possible.
So, tell me about the other aspect: the point of service in the merchant account.
I'm not familiar with this model, but you were telling me that you have one umbrella where it's tied together.
That's super important.
So, a lot of times, merchants are using an outside third party for their software hardware, and I make it much better because it's one relationship.
The processor has a relationship with a point-of-sale dealer, and so it's under one umbrella and they get a better experience.
This seems like a no-brainer, especially if the alternative is a company that doesn't share patriot values.
So, thank you for helping us build a parallel patriot economy, Jesse.
And if you're a Patriot business owner and want a free consultation with Jesse, just call or email him with his information below.
Really, in
the beginning of your picture, you show how the Nazis seized on the Reichstag fire to pass the Enabling Act and broaden their executive powers.
That's correct.
Something that people who are familiar with my book know, but new viewers of Movie may not know, is that I was startled to find so many strong parallels between how the Nazis seized power in the early 30s and how the Bush administration and their legacy is not being dismantled yet, unfortunately, set about to undermine democracy in America.
And step one in the 10 steps to fascism is to invoke a terrifying internal and external threat.
Nazis and Bush: Step One 00:14:41
And I do note that the Nazis hyped the threat of this lone arsonist who set fire allegedly.
Some historians think it was kind of a staged attack on the parliament and the way that the Bush administration hyped or fanned the flames of actual attacks on the United States in order to generate a generalized sense of fear.
All would-be dictators do that.
And why don't you talk about some of these parallel documents, such as the Enabling Act?
And in this country, we had Patriot Acts 1 and 2, we had the Military Commissions Act.
And like you said, it doesn't seem like any of this is being dismantled by this current administration.
So what are these things that are still around?
Well, Jason, you've asked the important question.
I mean, I had hoped and prayed that Obama, a constitutional scholar, would reverse this kind of nightmare infrastructure of a police state.
But, you know, largely he's made cosmetic gestures.
I mean, it was a beautiful gesture to claim that he was closing Guantanamo in a year, but it's not closed.
And we are back with this cannot miss Share It Right Now interview with Naomi Wolf.
Now, I'm not sure if you're aware of this program, but this is from an article two and a half years ago, and I was actually in touch with the author about America's secret military, because we often talk about former intelligence agents inside these organizations.
Well, here it talks about a 60,000-plus person army, larger than the clandestine forces of the Central Intelligency Agency, working undercover and in real life and in household name companies.
It goes through a slew of different tools that they're able to utilize, one of which, if you scroll down far enough, seems to be just a hand after they actually show you a true masked identity.
But it's not a hand.
It's actually a skin glove.
We've got to keep going down.
This is an extensive article.
Signature reduction is the program.
And right there, that is able to have anybody's biometric information on it and emit human oils.
So that makes me think that you have individuals part of this program that's never had oversight and never had an audit in many of these companies, whether it's Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.
Where else would they be, Naomi?
Yeah, I've been told by sources that there, this is nothing new, that there are, you know, infiltrators in, especially in media organizations.
I mean, I think we're fighting a very difficult battle.
You know, we haven't talked about the role of China, but people I respect, including my husband, Brian O'Shea, who spent his career in military intelligence and is an early warner that China was at war with us.
Asymmetric warfare, which is like not kinetic warfare.
It's not dropping bombs.
It's things like open borders, elite capture, regulatory capture, taking our water supplies, buying our farmland through proxies, Again, these bioweapons that I've described, we have a perforated society right now.
And the infiltration of companies that you've described is one part of it, but also our adversaries, our existential adversaries, have captured our universities, captured our entertainment, our sports teams, our farmland, as I mentioned, our water, our energy grid.
It's been pointed out to me that the whole push to green energy, which I, you know, I'm a big environmentalist, but who holds the keys to green energy?
China is in charge of our energy grid if we go all green and no longer have any fossil fuel-based energy generations.
So we're definitely in a war that is internal even more than it is external.
Well, one of the other things that you discussed before is how they took all this away from us.
They took our humanity away, literally.
They didn't want us to be near one another.
You couldn't see your loved ones, and they threatened you with your literal, I guess, life, because so many people are embedded in their careers if you didn't want to take not one, not two, but three, four, sometimes five shots in many cases, especially if you were in things like the military.
You were one of the few people to fight back.
How can you encourage people to take that next step right now and maybe not look to a Naomi Wolf or not look to a Donald Trump as a savior and start activating in their life and taking charge, being their own hero?
I mean, you've raised a very sensitive subject for me because I have no respect.
I have no respect for the people who caved.
I should be compassionate, but I'm, you know, this is like year three of this battle.
I lost everything.
I was completely ostracized, still am from my community, my profession.
Other people lost even more.
I mean, Dr. Merrick, Dr. Corey, they're being threatened with being delicensed now by medical boards.
Dr. McCullough was sued by Baylor University, where he was affiliated.
Dr. Jim Thorpe, the fetal maternal medicine specialist, was just fired.
Our volunteers, Gianthi Kunadasan in Australia, she was threatened with being de-licensed.
I mean, too bad if you are afraid, you know, your neighbors will be mad at you or you won't be invited to the bridge club or the play date, you know, for your kids, or you need to find another job.
I'm sorry, you know, like all the people who complied and were silent put all of us who spoke up on their behalf in the firing line.
And I'm tired of all of these heroes paying the price for other people's silence.
It's not fair, and I don't respect it.
I, you know, I wrote an essay once called I'm Not Brave, you're just a P/SSY because I get DMs from people saying, you're so brave.
And I'm like, what's wrong with you?
I'm not brave.
You're just a coward.
You know, speak up.
You know, like, what's the worst that will happen to you?
These people have not studied history because silence is not going to protect them.
Now, it didn't protect them.
The people who are suffering complied and caved.
They're the ones who are suffering.
But silence, you know, these communists are not going to say, oh, you were silent.
Thank you.
You can have this plum job now.
That's not how it works.
They'll be taken out and put in quarantine camps with the rest of us if we don't regain our republic.
I'm sorry, I tried to be really nice for a really long time, but I'm completely disgusted with people who are silent.
I'm here in Brooklyn.
This is my city, New York City.
You know, I've lived here for 20 years.
This city, which was the melting pot of the world, the most diverse city, the most inclusive city for 100 years, from 2021 to 2022, it created a Jim Crow society in which I could not walk into a restaurant.
I had to sit outside in the street like an animal and eat like an animal.
I couldn't walk with my family into buildings.
And they were fine with it.
The whole city was fine with a two-tier society, the kind of two-tier society we outlawed in America with the Civil Rights Act in 1963.
So, how do I forgive this whole city of 6 million people who went along with the most evil thing you can possibly do in the United States, which is a literally discriminatory society?
How do they not recognize all these people who are so right on about gay marriage as they should be, about respecting black culture as they should be?
How do they not see the irony that I was not allowed to sit at a lunch counter in my midtown hotel?
They were going to call the cops on me because I was unvaccinated and wanted to sit and have lunch indoors.
Like, I can't forgive these people.
Ms. Wolf, it has been a pleasure.
I want to be respectful of your time, but what would you like to leave the audience with and tell them how they can support you?
Thank you.
And if you're one of those people and I was too harsh on you, I'm sorry.
And oh, no, no, I'll believe I've been.
Not even close, Ms. Wolf.
Let me tell you, I was warning people from the very beginning.
I said, listen, under no circumstances should anybody be taking things that are driven by a military that has no duty to tell you the truth.
And they didn't tell us the truth.
So please.
Yeah.
Literally.
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I do have to sign off, but I'm grateful to talk to you again.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Ms. Wolf.
And folks, that has been another incredible show and an incredible interview with Naomi Wolf.
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And it's not about left or right.
It's always about right and wrong.
You said basically the battle boils down to individualism versus collectivism.
There's probably a lot of people out there who really are not very familiar with this terminology.
So first of all, what does that mean?
How did you come to that conclusion?
And what do we do about it?
Well that is a great question, Alex, because this question of individualism versus collectivism sounds like a mouthful of words and syllables.
And I didn't know what either of those words meant when I first stumbled across them.
But I have learned since then that in my view, they're the most important two words to understand if we're going to solve the problems that face the world politically and socially and even with our health.
All the important things in our lives depend upon this understanding of the difference between individualism and collectivism.
And one more step backward to the backstory to that before I give you the answer to that is that while I was in the stage of learning about some of these threats to the future that I didn't know about before, I decided I would go to the communist bookstore in Los Angeles and start to read some of their material to see what the heck was going on because I knew that, at least I thought I knew, that communism was the threat.
This was back in the 60s.
You know, communism was taken over the world, taken over China, taken over Cuba.
It was expanding into Eastern Europe.
And we had Communist Party in the U.S. and who knows, maybe they'd even take over America someday.
So I thought, I better find out, well, who these people are and what they believe.
So there's a communist bookstore in Los Angeles called the People's Bookshop down in Larchmont Street, as I believe.
I think it's still there.
So I went down and I hung out with the comrades for a couple of months and I bought their books.
In fact, I bought a lot of their books.
And not only that, I read their books.
And I found it quite fascinating.
And I became, I guess, what you might call a scholar in communist ideology and the writings of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.
He was a very prolific writer.
The collected works of Lenin, a whole set of books.
And you have to really be diligent to read all of those things.
So I read them all.
And then I decided to read some of the other stuff from other places, like what did Mussolini write about?
What was Hitler's, what did he say in Mein Kampf?
What's in the little red book from Mao Zeitung?
What do other communists believe?
What did Karl Marx write about?
I mean, I got that already.
But I started looking elsewhere.
And the more I read, Alex, the more I realized that, my gosh, I was reading the same thing as I was reading in the communist literature.
That these people really, although they appeared to be enemies of each other, and in fact were enemies of each other on the battlefield, they were total comrades and in agreement on what they believed.
And it came to a sudden realization in my mind about, gosh, I was fooled on this issue too.
I thought they were fighting with each other like Stalin against Hitler in World War I, or World War II rather.
I thought they were fighting against each other because they hated each other for what they believed in.
And I found out, no, it was just over territory.
They were fighting to see who's going to be the chief cheese.
That's all.
And they could move back and forth and be on either side, as some of them did, by the way, I discovered.
They would go from the Communist Party to the Nazi Party, and they fit in perfectly because the ideology was the same.
And that is the crack that made my view much wider than it had been.
Up until then, it was us against the communists.
Well, explain that a little more, because I think a lot of people hearing this are, Nazism and communism are the same.
The Greater Good Paradox 00:02:11
Yeah, how absurd.
In what sense?
Yeah, so that made me start to, in fact, I got a piece of paper, and I started to make a list of all of the concepts that were the same.
And I found a list of about 12 or 13 of them.
And I found six or seven that were really, really dominant.
And so I made a list of these things, and I found out that there was the same in all these ideologies that apparently oppose each other.
Well, what are they?
They break down into a category of communism or collectivism, I should say, on one side, and individualism on the other side.
Here it is.
The first element or the first idea in the ideology of collectivism is that the group is more important than the individual, and that the individual must be sacrificed, if necessary, for the greater good of the greater number.
Just think about that for a minute.
We were taught that in school when I went to school.
I bought into it.
I thought, it sounds good to me.
I mean, the greater good of the number, the greater number, it sounds like democracy, right?
And aren't we a democratic system and so forth.
So I bought into it, and it sounded good.
But then I realized that how come all of these totalitarian systems believe that and state so in very clear language.
And then the more I've thought about it, the more I realized that, well, it was a trick.
It was a horrible trick.
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What should people know about that whole blow-up with Project Veritas?
I read a few people wrong, and that's my fault, but I learned from that, and I think I'll be a more effective messenger as a result of that.
That'll free me up to do the next chapter, the next stage of my evolution, which is OMG, which is decentralizing journalism.
And sometimes things happen for a reason.
That's my goal.
That's my mission.
And I didn't ask for that, Lincoln.
I never thought that would be my mission.
It just has become my mission.
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