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NVIC.org Blows The Lid Off Vaccine Injury | MSOM Ep. 803

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5.1% Cardiac Damage Risks 00:05:02
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
Over the next hour we're going to peel back the layers of deception regarding vaccine injury with National Vaccine Information Center co-founder Barbara Lowe Fisher and much more after this.
after moderna booster vaccines in a trial done in switzerland there were seven hundred and seventy seven working people followed up with seven hundred and seventy seven controls 5.1% of those who had the booster vaccine had increased troponins indicating cardiomyocyte damage.
So 5.1% increased cardiac marker damage, chemicals in the blood.
2.8% of the 777, that is one in 35, one in 35, had vaccine-associated myocardial injury.
Quite astounding and incredible.
That's what this is about if you want to watch, stick around.
I think I can get through it all in about sort of the main points in about 10 minutes if you want to stay.
This is really quite an impressive study by cardiologists and scientists in Switzerland.
Myocardial injury after COVID-19 vaccine.
This is the Moderna mRNA 1273 booster.
Department of Cardiology and Cardiovascular Research Institute of Basel in Switzerland of course.
Now this is published in the European Journal of Heart Failure.
It's an open access journal of the Heart Failure Association of the European Society of Cardiology, so top flight stuff.
This paper is accepted.
It is peer-reviewed.
It's not yet published.
We've got a pre-print, not a preprint, a pre-release copy because it's not a pre-print because it is peer-reviewed.
And a fully accepted paper in an international peer-reviewed reputable journal.
It's a prospective active surveillance study.
So they started, they went forward, collected the data as they went on, and it's active surveillance.
They were actually looking for things.
In the past, what we've had is retrospective, passive surveillance.
So it's been passive in the past.
People have only collected data as patients have come forward to complain about it.
And it's been retrospective looking back.
This is a much better quality study all around and has produced really quite worrying results, really.
And this study was industry independent.
It had nothing to do with the people that are making the money.
Nothing to do with the people that are making the money.
This study was not carried out by the people that are making the money.
Independent.
Instigated by the investigators themselves.
So the aim, they want to look at the incidence and potential mechanism of oligosymptomatic.
So oligo means few, oligosymptomatic.
So oligosymptomatic myocardial injury is myocardial injury which has sometimes no symptoms or sometimes minimal symptoms.
It's oligosymptomatic.
But that doesn't mean to say there can't be quite severe consequences.
In fact, just before we go on, I think I'll just tell you something about the potential severe consequences.
Now, this is from the textbook of medicine that's been used for generations now.
I just want to read something from this.
In most patients, this is talking about myocarditis.
In most patients, the disease is self-limiting and the immediate prognosis is excellent.
However, death may occur due to ventricular arrhythmia or rapid progressive heart failure.
Myocarditis has been reported as a cause of sudden and unexpected death in young athletes.
And we could go on and read about longer-term complications.
Not my words, directly from David's principles and practice of medicine.
So one in 35 participants.
One in 35 recipients rather, one in 35 who received the booster vaccine had vaccine-associated myocardial injury.
I'm just going to read that out again.
One in 35 people who received the booster had vaccine-associated myocardial injury.
This is a range of adverse reaction that is off the scale in healthcare.
Off the scale.
And yet, and yet.
In New Zealand and other places, it's still being actively and unethically, some might say, promoted.
This is just off the scale risks, off the scale, completely.
Off the Scale Risks 00:02:38
The only way you would take this kind of risk in healthcare, the alternative was certain death.
But it's safe and effective.
And it's for the kids.
It's for the infants.
You think the comic book was bad?
They had entire partnerships with Sesame Street and CNN doing full-on propaganda spots on top of commercials that were spread far and wide.
Think about that number right there.
That is a lifelong injury.
And that is one of many side effects, side effects of this latest shot.
And this campaign was amongst the worst, but there have been problems with these shots for many, many, many years.
So when we come back, we're going to take you back in time and talk about the National Vaccine Information Center, how it came into being, and how people began to become aware of this issue, especially in infants and young children.
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We are back and we're joined by Barbara Lowe Fisher.
And she has been involved in this for over four decades.
Barbara, thank you so much for joining us.
Tell us how you got started.
Oh gosh.
Vaccine Safety Debates 00:14:58
My son had a severe reaction, a convulsion, collapse, shock, and state of unconsciousness after his fourth DPT shot when he was two and a half years old.
He was a very bright, healthy child.
And I witnessed him regress physically, mentally, and emotionally after that shot and become a totally different child.
He was eventually diagnosed with learning disability so severe that he had to stay in the special education classroom throughout his public school education.
And when I saw the television documentary, DPT Vaccine Roulette in the spring of 1982, I knew what had happened to my son.
And I called the station, I joined up with other parents in the DC area, and we founded an organization that was known at the time as Dissatisfied Parents Together, DPT, because we wanted the wholesale pertussis vaccine in DPT taken off the market.
And as a result of our activism and the threat by the vaccine companies that they were going to leave this country with no childhood vaccines if they did not get complete liability protection from vaccine energy lawsuits, Congress decided they were going to pass legislation.
And they came to us and said, we are going to protect the vaccine supply in this country.
You can come to the table and fight for what you think the parents and children should get, or you can not come to the table, but we're going to pass this law.
So we came to the table and fought as hard as we could to number one, protect the right of parents to sue vaccine manufacturers and negligent physicians for medical malpractice when giving vaccines.
And we fought for safety provisions to be included in that law, informing, recording, and reporting safety visions, of which the vaccine adverse event reporting system, VARES, was one of those provisions.
And that VARES system has played a big role in the COVID pandemic because over 1.5 million adverse events have been reported to that system after COVID shots.
And that is a record, historic record.
In fact, that represents more than half of all the adverse events that have ever been reported after vaccination since the VARES system became operational in 1990.
We also worked on a federal compensation system that would be an alternative, not instead of, but an alternative to a vaccine energy lawsuit.
And what happened when that, after that law was passed in 1986, what happened was the same congressman and senators who supported that law and worked with us worked to gut the law.
And within one year, in December of 1987, without us knowing about it, they bowed to pressure from the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics and gave doctors and vaccine administrators total liability protection so that you cannot sue them for a medical malpractice if they negligently give a vaccine.
Over the succeeding decade, the Department of Health and Human Services, with the help of the Department of Justice, gutted the federal compensation program so that almost nothing qualifies as a reason to give federal compensation.
And they gutted the safety provisions.
They haven't touched VARES so far, but I know they want to.
Well, they certainly demonized VARES.
I mean, talk about touching it.
I mean, it's been demonized in the media.
You've had people in the media.
I remember I think Colbert did this, file false VARES and then show how easy it was and say, ha ha, anybody can do this.
This isn't reputable.
When in the past, people openly acknowledged that the VARES reporting was sometimes as low as 10% of the actual adverse reactions.
In other words, 90% didn't even report these things.
You know, before we go further, I want people to understand what the law that you fought for was supposed to do.
You know, you mentioned that it was supposed to be a checklist of things that would allow you to get compensation.
So, in other words, it was directed in a manner that, yes, these people would be held accountable.
And yes, it would be a very easy process, not one of constant litigation.
That's right.
That law was supposed to be a law that was going to make the vaccine system safer.
And that was why we cooperated in participating in it, because we knew that what the doctors were doing and the companies were doing and the health officials were doing was they were denying whenever somebody had an adverse event after DPT or MMR or polio vaccination, they were denying that it had anything to do with the vaccine given.
And that same thing is happening today with COVID shots.
The pattern hasn't changed.
And in fact, the Department of Health and Human Services opposed that law up until the bitter end.
They did not want the 1986 Act passed because they did not want government acknowledging that federally licensed and recommended and state-mandated vaccines can injure and kill children.
And so Congress did pass it, but we did not understand at the time that what apparently the plan was, was to gut it after it was passed.
We participated, I remember being in meetings where the table of compensates, the vaccine injury table was discussed, and where there would be signs and symptoms of what constituted a vaccine reaction and evidence that there was a reaction so that administrative compensation would be awarded.
That was a very important table.
It was acknowledging that if you met this criteria, you would be able to, you wouldn't have contested compensation.
And that table was systematically gutted so that almost nothing would qualify for automatic compensation so that all the cases had to be argued in the U.S. Court of Claims, adjudicated in that setting.
So it was like a lawsuit, but there was only one special master that was assigned to your case who would listen to the evidence that justice and the HHS presents versus the plaintiff's lawyers.
And of course, justice and HHS have very deep pockets, just like the vaccine manufacturers have deep pockets.
And before that law was passed, what a lot of people don't realize is that most of the lawsuits against these very wealthy pharmaceutical companies that make vaccines were being settled out of court on the courthouse steps for very low sums because the plaintiffs' lawyers and the plaintiffs didn't have the kind of resources that the pharmaceutical companies have always had.
And so there were a couple of multi-million dollar jury awards, but most of them were settled for low amounts on the courthouse steps.
The other thing that's happened in the last 30 to 40 years is there has been this huge tort reform effort in this country.
So that in states, it's very difficult to sue companies or to sue doctors for injury.
Medical malpractice is very difficult, as you know.
And so we're kind of caught in a vice now where you have no light virtually in 20, what the really the defining moment with this law was in 2011.
And Bruce Witz versus Wyatt.
And that was a DPT vaccine injury case.
And the argument was the company could have made the vaccine safer, the whole cell pertussis vaccine, safer.
We know because we fought for 14 years to get a less toxic DTAP vaccine in here for the babies, an acellular pertussis vaccine that doesn't contain the amounts of bioactive endotoxin and pertussis toxin that the whole cell pertussis vaccine contained, the one that hurt my son.
So, you know, there's a pattern here.
It's been going on for a long time in terms of industry, medical trade, and government not wanting to acknowledge the risks associated with vaccines, particularly childhood vaccines.
Who's borne the brunt of vaccine injury and death?
It's been the children, the babies, the young children who cannot talk.
They can't describe how they feel when they're having convulsions, when they are collapsing into unconsciousness, when they're screaming, high-pitched screaming, which is evidence of swelling in the brain.
They're banging their heads against the wall because it hurts so much.
They can't talk.
But do you know what?
Now, this COVID vaccine was targeted to adults when it was approved under an emergency use authorization in December of 2020.
It was targeted to adults and then teenagers.
And guess what?
They can talk.
They can describe what happened to them after they got a shot when they were perfectly healthy before.
And they're talking, they're making those reports to the vaccine adverse event reporting system.
And they're talking on social media and on media reports.
And if you go online, because I monitor the media, I've never seen the kind of pushback on vaccinations that I have seen when you go on the comment sections of these media reports where people are describing what happened to them or a loved one after they got a COVID shot or describing how they got four COVID shots and still got COVID.
When we were told from the get-go that this vaccine, this COVID shot, would prevent infection and transmission, that if you got vaccinated, you didn't have to worry about it.
And that was a lie.
And they knew it was a lie because when you go to the FDA guidance documents that was guidance for the companies to make the COVID vaccine, the government only, the FDA only required the companies to show at least 50% efficacy in preventing severe symptoms of COVID disease that led to hospitalization or death.
They did not require them to demonstrate effectiveness in preventing infection and transmission.
And yet, everybody, that's why we had an 80% uptake in this country.
80% of Americans have gotten at least one COVID shot.
And 72%, I think, of the world population has gotten at least one COVID shot, at least according to the New York Times.
So this is an old story.
It's not a new story.
A lot of people have come into awareness about because of the COVID shot, but what they need to understand is this history of denying risks associated with vaccines is a long, long history that goes back to the smallpox vaccine.
Two centuries.
Well, I think they also have to understand that, yes, these people do have unlimited, really unlimited resources to wage lawfare against others.
And the reason we don't hear about it more often than not is because people do take these settlements.
They do sign NDAs.
And when people like you step up to the plate and actually litigate something correctly, what do they do?
Well, in the dark of night, they gut that and they'll incrementally push the line.
So it's the complete inverse of its intention.
And at the same time, it's got to be frustrating for you, somebody who's been in this four decades, when the quote-unquote vaccine schedule was sometimes less than 10 shots.
And now, I think before a child is six or seven years old, we're up to 70 plus different types of shots.
Can you speak to that?
Yes, when my children, I have three children, when my children were being vaccinated in the late 70s, early 80s, it was that the schedule was 23 doses of seven vaccines between two months and six years of age.
Today, it's up to 72 doses of 17 vaccines given between the day of birth and age 18, with 52 doses given before the age of six.
This is a tripling of the numbers of vaccinations that our children are getting compared to four decades ago.
What have we seen in those 40 years in terms of the health of American children?
As we've achieved a 95% vaccination rate for school-aged children with a whole host of vaccines, what we've seen is a simultaneous increase in chronic disease and disability among our children.
One in five children in America now has allergies, one in six is learning disabled, one in 10 has ADHD or anxiety disorder, one in 12 has asthma, one in 36 develops autism, one in 150 has epilepsy, one in 285 is diabetic, millions more are suffering with thyroid disease and inflammatory bowel disease,
chronic brain and immune system dysfunction that is marked by chronic inflammation in the body.
What do vaccines do?
Vaccines stimulate an inflammatory response.
For some people, that inflammatory response does not resolve.
And you can have chronic inflammation in the body, which now scientists acknowledge is at the root of most chronic disease and disability.
So it is a logical question to ask: where is the science that has studied what happens to the body, the cells of the body at the molecular and cellular level, when these products are injected over and over again into little children and now adults?
Vaccines and Chronic Inflammation 00:03:21
Where is that science, that biological mechanism science, what they call bench science, not the epidemiological science that basically garbage in, garbage out?
Episcience is when you compare two groups of people together and see and try to make sense out of it.
But you know, it depends upon how you design those studies as to what you come out with.
And if you look at the Institute of Medicine reports that were done when they assembled vaccine assembled committees to expert committees to look at the medical literature, that's something we got in that 1996 law, that there would have to be a study of the medical literature and evidence for proof of safety of vaccines.
And when the Institute of Medicine Committees went in and looked and they published a series of reports between 1991 and 2013, and I was asked several times to present oral presentation in terms of what consumers believe needs needed, the type of research needed to be done.
And I sat on an Institute of Medicine vaccine safety forum for four years in the 1990s, giving presentations on what kind of science the people wanted to demonstrate safety and effectiveness.
But in those IOM reports spanning more than 20, 20 years, they said over and over again that there wasn't enough biological mechanism science and that it needed to be done.
And in the last report that the Institute of Medicine published on vaccine safety, they acknowledged that the childhood vaccine schedule between birth and age six had not been adequately studied.
And they still haven't done it.
This is unacceptable.
It's by design.
Yeah, I mean, it's by design so that they can continue to obfuscate what's obviously going on and make it harder and harder for people to challenge their great narrative.
And honestly, a biomedical complex that's gotten out of control and is the main advertiser of our mainstream media at this point.
We've got to take a break.
When we come back, I want to talk about the origin story of the National Vaccine Information Center.
It's making sense of the madness.
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Barbara, you mentioned how you first got into this and you started an organization with other parents who had children that were victims of this vaccine injury.
You talked about how you were vital in getting VARS into existence.
That's the reporting system for vaccine injury.
Where along this journey did you create the National Vaccine Information Center?
Well, Dissatisfied Parents Together was our original name.
And in the late 1980s, by that time, I had co-authored the book, 1985 book, DPT is Shot in the Dark with Harris Coulter, which was the first documented sort of analysis of what was wrong with the mass vaccination system.
And of course, worked with Congress on the 1986 Act.
And by the late 1980s, we realized that it wasn't just about DPT vaccine.
It was the whole system.
The whole system was corrupt.
And it was about the other vaccines.
I mean, the polio vaccine.
The polio vaccine, there were contaminated lots of polio vaccine in the 1950s that caused polio.
There was monkey virus contamination of the polio vaccines.
SV40.
SV40, a cancer-causing virus that we still, we know it contaminated the seed lots of both the oral and the killed polio vaccines.
We still are, scientists are trying to figure out whether the cancers, brain, bone, and lung cancers, how much of that could be attributed to those polio vaccines.
We have the hepatitis B vaccine licensed in 1991, a genetic, first genetically engineered vaccine that instead of targeting the high-risk groups for hepatitis B, because we've always had a very low incidence of hepatitis B in this country, instead of targeting the high-risk groups, they targeted all the newborns at 12 hours of age based on a study of less than 100 newborns born to hepatitis B positive mothers.
Then we have the pneumococcal vaccine that was licensed in 2000.
I was on the FDA Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee as a consumer member at the time.
And I looked at the evidence the company was providing and I said, wait a minute, they've compared an experimental pneumococcal vaccine against an experimental meningococcal vaccine.
And they don't know the reactivity of either one.
How can that possibly prove evidence of safety for the pneumococcal vaccine?
And it was at that point I realized that the standards for proof of safety and effectiveness were being lowered.
Why were they being lowered?
Because there was too much, that firewall that used to exist, or partially exist anyway, between government and industry was being pulled down because industry was having way too much influence in the regulatory process at the FDA.
So you have, in 2006, you have the Gardasil vaccine, another genetically engineered vaccine.
And I looked at that vaccine and looked at those trials, and aluminum, which is a neurotoxin, was in the HPV vaccine, Gardasil vaccine.
And it was also, they use an aluminum-containing placebo, quotes, placebo, as a control.
Well, aluminum is bioactive in the body.
How can you possibly tell anything about the reactivity of the HPV vaccine if you're comparing it against a placebo that has a component that's in the vaccine?
You know, there's a long history of science that is not up to the kind of standards that need to be at the FDA when they're regulating industry.
And one of the reasons that this has happened is because public-private business partnerships have grown up, particularly in the 21st century, between industry, medical trade, and government.
And so you have this huge, what I call the public global public health empire that has gained a lot of authority and a lot of money.
You have the major players now are at the United Nations, the World Health Organization, the World Banks, the Gates Foundation, the World Economic Forum.
You have this spider web of very powerful institutions that have created financial relationships with the pharmaceutical industry, of which the pharmaceutical industry is part of, and governments.
So it's, you know, all you have to do is look at the power that's been gained by the World Health Organization, which is a public health arm of the United Nations, and realize the role that WHO played in the pandemic declaration, the Worldwide Global Pandemic Declaration.
It plays a huge role because it was the proxy for all these authoritarian dictates that said, well, you don't really have to do it, but everybody did it because they were a part of it.
And, you know, what you were describing, at least what I heard, this public-private partnership, that's fascism.
You know, that's when you have this biomedical, biomedical, military-industrial complex partnering big time with this industry.
And I want to point out that Moderna itself in 2013 partnered with DARPA.
This is on their own website, and this is in their initial mRNA project.
Here it is right here.
This is the initial $25 million grant, and this is part of their Adept and Protect program.
The problem is when things get the military involved, well, then you can classify things.
And then on top of that, you talked about strategic collaborators.
Well, with mRNA, which then was not advertised as a vaccination, but instead advertised as a gene therapy, let's go to the strategic collaborators.
You mentioned the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
They're here.
BARDA is here.
Merck is here.
AstraZeneca is here.
It's again all on their own website, all out in the open.
As you scroll down, the Institute Pastor is here.
So in that respect, a lot of them are 100% indemnified, especially when the program that they put into place for this mass quote-unquote vaccination issue is what?
Operation Warp Speed and the military.
And that gets us to the authorization of these shots, because you talked about how you were seeing over the years there was less and less of a barrier for these things to be approved and less and less real science to prove their efficacy.
Well, with mRNA shots, they had never proved any efficacy, and it didn't seem to be necessary once we had the Emergency Use Authorization Act in play.
And this goes back, unfortunately, the responsibility for what has happened lies with the governments, lies with Congress.
They approved these laws over the last few decades that gave this kind of power to public health officials.
I remember after 911, almost within a week to 10 days, what was the messaging coming from the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense?
That was that we were all going to die of smallpox or anthrax because there were weapons of mass destruction by these terrorists.
And they were going to unleash these weapons of mass destruction.
And so I remember they wanted to dilute the old stocks of the YS smallpox vaccine and dilute it.
Continue.
And dilute it and give it to every American.
And they wanted to do, they wanted, talking about civilians taking anthrax vaccine.
They wanted, they immediately jumped on it.
And one of the first things they did was they went, wanted to go state by state.
They did go state by state with the Mild State Emergency Health Powers Act that they had been working on with a professor at Georgetown, Lawrence Gonston, who I think he had received a million dollars in the CDC to work on the revamping of state public health laws during times of emergency.
Now, why did they do that?
They did that because the federal government, the health agencies, do not like the fact that in the U.S. Constitution, anything that was not defined in the Constitution as a federal activity defaults to the states.
Public health laws have generally been state laws in this country because we have decentralized government.
We have federal, state, and local government.
That's the structure of our system under the Constitution.
And they don't like the fact that the states can pass different kinds of public health laws when it comes to vaccines.
That's why there are different vaccine laws in different states because vaccine laws are primarily state laws.
The federal government has control over the borders and over state borders as well, which is something I was concerned about during this pandemic.
Were they going to pull the trigger on that power on interstate going across state lines?
So your vaccine laws control what happens within the borders of your state.
And that's why NVIC in 2010 created the NVIC Advocacy Portal at NVICAdvocacy.org.
It's a free online tool that helps you get involved in your state to try to protect your right to make voluntary vaccine decisions.
I consider myself a natural rights activist, which is defending the right, the human right or natural right, I like to say natural right, to freedom of speech and conscience, things that were outlined in the Bill of Rights.
But the protection of autonomy and bodily integrity is a very important natural right that we all should be.
The important one.
If you don't have domain over your body, which is essentially the Fourth Amendment, your person or property, then you don't have anything.
Forget about free speech or the right to own a gun.
If you cannot decide what goes into you or your child's body, you have no rights at all.
And it is a human right.
When we come back, I want to talk more about the fact that those separations of power are essential.
States' rights are essential.
And that's why we have a constitutional republic and how people can take action through your network to make it better in their state.
If you live somewhere like New York, it's tough.
I know I moved from there.
California is tough.
Some of these are very draconian and dangerous laws.
We're going to talk about that more when we come back.
It's making sense of the madness after this.
We are back with Barbara Lowe Fisher.
Now, Barbara, traditionally, many people are under the idea that if their children do not receive these vaccinations, they cannot go to school.
Now, in New York, I was part of a process with my nieces to get conscientious objection waivers.
Now, this varies state to state in both difficulty and availability, but the bottom line is they can't really keep your kid out of public school if, in fact, you go through these processes, correct?
Well, it depends upon which state you're living in and how strictly they enforce the vaccine laws governing attendance to private or public schools.
There are a lot of people in this country who are homeschooling their children now because of the strict enforcement in some of these states.
And that's why, as I said, MVIC in 2010 decided that we had to go into the states and educate the lawmakers about the need to protect informed consent when it comes to vaccination.
And that means, well, that you have the right to exercise a flexible medical, religious, or conscientious belief exemption.
I believe a conscientious belief exemption should exist in every state.
Your right to follow your conscience is a fundamental right that everyone should have, you know, when it comes, certainly when it comes to using a product that can cause injury or death.
So it's so important to get involved at every stage of government, local, state, and federal.
You know, I think, I don't remember if I closed the loop on the 1986 Act, what the Supreme Court did in 2011 to that act.
Supreme Court's Role in Vaccination Laws 00:06:45
It's a perfect example of what we were talking about in terms of the institutions and government and medical trade and the industry joining together to basically convince the Supreme Court.
They all issued briefs to convince the Supreme Court to effectively take away all liability from the pharmaceutical industry when it comes to vaccine entries and deaths associated with vaccines.
It was a horrible decision and it was a split decision.
And Justices Sotomayor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg did issue a brilliant dissent to that decision, but it shows the power of the federal government when it joins with industry and other powerful institutions like medical trade and all gang up and convince a court that they should let off an industry for liability for injury and death for the products that they market.
And that's why it's so important in the states for us to make our stand because we can do it.
And I'll tell you, the proof of it is that because we have been in the states for more than a decade educating lawmakers, defending exemptions and opposing more vaccine mandates, opposing vaccine tracking systems, electronic vaccine tracking systems, opposing this move to have children as young as 11 be able to give, quote,
informed consent to vaccination and keep that information from their parents so the parents have no idea the child's been vaccinated.
Those kinds of laws that we've been opposing.
In 2020, in 2021 and 2022, and up to now, no state legislature in this country has voted for a COVID-19 vaccine mandate for school children.
That's a historic accomplishment.
And so it does work if we get involved in government.
If we don't do it, we will lose.
We will lose all of our rights because this is a very powerful industry.
And when they do deals with government, it's a huge lobby.
It's a huge lobby, and it's a huge hill to climb, but we must climb it.
That's the bottom line.
And one of the things that I think we have to emphasize: you just talked about how they're trying to take away parental consent.
And a lot of people have discussed that with the transgender and identity issue.
But the truth of the matter is they've tried to take away this autonomy now for well over a decade with some of these vaccinations, including gardasil, within school systems.
And you know, we saw that push even more during the COVID-19 nightmare.
When was this first introduced?
Because traditionally, again, if you're under the age of 18, all of these shots that were administered had to go through the parents.
Oh, yes.
And in fact, it is a violation of the 1986 Act to pass these kinds of laws.
Because in that act, the informing safety provision that is that any parent who takes their child in for a vaccination has got to be given a written list of benefits and risks of the vaccination and how to report a vaccine reaction.
The parent is supposed to be informed before that vaccination takes place.
That's the closest we get to informed consent in terms of vaccination in this country.
That's part of that 1986 Act.
And I know when DC passed a law saying that kids as young as 11, I think, could have a doctor persuade them to get shots without the knowledge or consent of the parents.
The argument was you're violating a federal law, but they didn't care.
And that's the other thing.
There's almost no repercussions.
And when the repercussions come, say for the pharmaceutical industry for this malpractice, it's monetary.
These people don't go to jail.
There is no criminal repercussion, no matter how heinous and calculated these actions are.
And when we peel back the layers, they are indeed very, very calculated.
What do you see coming in the future with these COVID-19 vaccines and the lawsuits?
Because obviously, we've had the emergency use authorization, but some people are suing and winning in respect to, hey, I didn't take the shot, not injuries, but I didn't take the shot.
And you took away my job.
Now I'm getting back pay.
Now I'm getting reinstituted.
So there are some wins there.
Will we see wins in the adverse reaction or even death realm?
Well, as you know, Congress in March of 2020 passed legislation, extra legislation, to set up a countermeasures, again, a military term, a countermeasures pandemic vaccine compensation program, which is worse than the civilian program, worse than the program under the 1986 Act.
Hardly anyone has gotten any compensation.
Hardly anyone has been injured by COVID vaccines has gotten any compensation from that countermeasures program.
So people need to really understand that if they get that COVID shot and they're hurt, they're on their own.
And so I am very concerned because, you know, if the Supreme Court had not done what they did in 2011 on design defect, you definitely could have sued the pharmaceutical companies for the mRNA vaccine technology.
I mean, It's a tragedy that what the Supreme Court did by removing, effectively removing all liability.
At this point, you have to prove criminal negligence, fraud.
And, you know, in that line, I mean, these lawyers may find a way.
If they can get discovery, they may be able to prove criminal fraud.
That's still outstanding.
And then if they did, then they could sue the companies for unlimited damages.
Well, I'll tell you, I hope so too.
And, you know, I love what Thomas Renz and others are doing.
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But at the same time, when you talk about mRNA in particular, you know, we're not done.
It's now been mainline.
They're openly talking about using it as now a new traditional flu vaccine.
They're talking about inoculating livestock and just normalizing mRNA when it's never passed any of the proper safety criteria.
We've got to take one more break when we come back.
I want to talk about what you see as the future of the movement.
Can we fight back effectively and, in my opinion, save more lives and have people have more productive lives?
We'll be back after this with Barbara Lowe Fisher.
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Barbara, where do you see the future of this going?
And say somebody in my audience wants to activate today.
They go to your website, nvic.org.
What tools are provided to get them to take action?
Well, we have over 2,000 pages on NVIC.org.
We're one of the oldest websites.
We launched our website in 1995 at the same time the CDC launched their website.
And it has a lot of referenced information because I always felt that if we were going to be critics of vaccine policy, we better know, we better be able to anchor our information with good references.
So you can trust the information.
We got information on vaccine laws.
If you want to know the laws in your state, if you want to get hooked up with the MVIC advocacy portal, you could do that through NVIC.org.
We have the vaccine reaction.org website, which is our weekly journal newspaper.
We also have sponsor MetaAlerts.org, which is a user-friendly search engine for the VAIRE system.
So if you want to go onto MetaAlerts.org, you can read, well, you can't read all 1.5 million, I wouldn't think, but you can read a lot of the descriptions of the reactions that are occurring after COVID shots and after all the other shots as well.
We've been about education, and I believe that education is the key.
It's people waking up and understanding that they have got to fight for their right to make a voluntary decision about use of vaccines or indeed any other pharmaceutical product, but we're about vaccines and that they can effectively work in their states at the local level to affect.
It can be done.
One of the things I am worried about, though, is the censorship that has occurred.
After NVIC had killed its fifth international public conference on vaccination in 2020, in 2021, we were attacked and we were one of the first casualties online.
NVIC was in 2021, was taken off of all four major social media platforms: Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, where I had 15 years of video commentaries that were completely removed.
We were also targeted by the Democrats in the House of Representatives who sent a letter to the CEO of PayPal saying that PayPal should block donations to NVIC.
And indeed, PayPal did that in December of 2021 in the middle of our end-of-year fundraising campaign.
So, when you have censorship and you're not allowed to have a public conversation about these issues, you're not allowed to criticize government policy or criticize the narrative on a disease and a vaccine that's coming out from government in the United Nations.
This is very dangerous.
It's very hard to organize when you're censored in the public square.
That I am concerned about.
But I truly believe that so many people have awakened during the COVID crisis.
This crisis that was, you know, traced back to the origins of the virus, the SARS-CoV-2 virus, and now we know that it most likely originated from a lab that was conducting game of function research with money from NIH.
The whole story is one of corruption and deceit.
And I think people are starting to realize it.
And like I said, all you have to do is go on the comment sections in the media.
I don't care if it's alternative media or mainstream media.
And people know something's wrong.
And now they're taking a look at the other vaccines.
And well, they should.
They should look at the system that is pushing out all these vaccines with very little methodologically sound science.
Well, Barbara, number one, that's if they leave the comments on.
And number two, the way the censorship works, in my opinion, is extremely scary because you have what I call Trojan horse civilian systems.
So you have your YouTubes, which is really Google, which is really Alphabet, which has a monopoly like no other, a technopoly like we've never seen.
And what do I mean?
It's the number one search engine.
Chrome is the number one web browser.
The number two search engine is YouTube.
The number one video platform is YouTube.
The number one operating system on everybody's magic device is Android.
They're also on Chromebooks that are distributed to the school.
And they will censor not on behalf of the government, even though we know they do that too, but on behalf of the World Health Organization and the authoritative sources they deem fit.
On top of that censorship, then you have payment censorship via what?
Mechanisms like PayPal, Venmo.
It's gotten to banks and not for misinformation or disinformation, but a term they pulled out of nowhere, malinformation is now in there.
And all malinformation is, is truthful, documented information like the stuff on nvic.org that is harmful to their ever-growing great narrative.
So in other words, anything the authorities say.
It's truly a dangerous inversion of truth, Barbara.
It is.
And if you, I wrote an article, a commentary about the Lancet, basically calling the public health empire calling for the United States of America to move away from respect for individual rights.
Move away from the foundational principles, the values and beliefs that are embedded in the U.S. Constitution.
They cannot stand that in this country we have a decentralized government that is not all decided by the federal government.
And this is why it's, like I say, it sounds like a broken record.
Please get engaged in your community.
Please become a vaccine choice advocate so that we can push back against this growing authoritarianism that is growing up because of these public-private partnerships between industry and government.
I believe we can do it.
The number of people in our population and populations around the world outnumber those who are trying to do this to us.
So we need to stand up, not be afraid, not be afraid to have these conversations with our families.
There are so many families that are split on this issue.
Talk about education.
Talk about responsible activism.
That's really important.
Responsible activism.
If we go and work the process, the democratic process, we can turn this around.
I know it.
Well, we need to.
And I think we do need to reach out to our family, our friends, our neighbors, and not come at them all aggressive and instead try to find a place of agreement and then flesh the argument out in a very calm and concise manner.
Because when you're at that school board meeting or you're running for city council, you need a partner in this fight.
Wrapping it up.
Tell us how our audience can get involved and support you.
Because I know a lot of this stuff is not free.
All this stuff costs money.
You guys have been around for a very long time.
It's admirable to be in this fight four plus decades.
And like you said earlier, you know, it's not just about the Constitution and Bill of Rights and this country and the democratic process.
Right now is the fight for humanity because this agenda is truly global.
I couldn't agree with you more.
I think this is the moment.
This is our moment.
We either seize it and make the most of it and protect our autonomy and our natural rights, or we are going to be slaves for the foreseeable future.
This is no joke.
Please go to nvic.org.
If you can make a donation, please do.
We have been so ghosted online that it's very hard to find us.
So only shows like this, you know, really let people know we're around anymore because of the censorship.
Get engaged.
Sign up for the free NVIC advocacy portal at nvicadvocy.org.
Read our weekly journal newspaper, The Vaccine Reaction.
Become an educator and become an advocate for the right to protect bodily integrity.
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