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Deirdre On Super Apps 00:03:05
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
I am Jason Burmes.
Today we're going to be talking about states' rights and secession, the Greater Idaho movement with Mike McCarter, as well as Burisma, Biden, and Beyond with Chris Paul.
Get ready to make sense of the madness.
All right, Elon Musk rebranding Twitter to X this morning.
He says, no more birds, Sarah.
It's all part of his larger ambitions to create an everything app that combines messaging, social networks, and payments.
That's the focus of today's tech tech with our Deirdre Bosa.
Deirdre?
Frank, this is something that Elon Amusk has envisioned since 1999 when he founded X.com.
And it was then that he laid out his vision for a one-stop everything store for all financial needs.
In the following decades, however, Asian companies and users, they have beat him to the punch.
The best and most popular example is Tencent's WeChat.
Now, it began in 2011 as a simple messaging and photo sharing app.
From there, it moved into payments, games, shopping, even a place to book your doctor's appointments.
Ultimately, it notched 1.3 billion monthly users who had very little reason to ever leave this app.
It became an ecosystem in and of itself.
And that's what companies here have been trying to replicate.
From there, the possibilities, monetization, data collection, they expand network effects, switching costs.
Those lock in users, sellers, and advertisers.
A walled garden is created where the app's algorithm personalizes and is able to cross-sell to each user.
Elsewhere in Asia, super apps, they've taken off as well.
You've got South Korea's cacao.
It's used by more than 90% of all smartphone users in the country.
There's LINE in Japan, Grab in Southeast Asia, PayTM in India, which leads, of course, to the question why we haven't had one of these in America, despite ambitions from the likes of not just Elon Musk, but Mark Zuckerberg and other tech leaders.
A big reason is that our internet and payment systems have evolved very differently.
The U.S. legacy credit and debit card infrastructure has actually slowed fintech adoption here.
And the absence of that in Asia cleared the way for mobile systems like WeChat Pay and Alipay, also, which is a largely free system.
Many Asian internet companies that were also built after the mobile shift.
So guys, they were mobile native and they built within existing apps.
Many of our internet companies, they were built on PCs and then created more narrow mobile versions.
So it also leads to the question, can Elon Musk be successful here?
It's night and day between what led to super apps and there's a reason why they work in Asia and they don't work here.
And it is official, the Muskernuts has killed the bluebird on behalf of X, an attempt at one of these super apps.
And we have to be very, very careful with this because what is this about?
Consolidation of Power 00:03:42
This is about the consolidation of power for more of a command and control system.
And this time it will actually incorporate our biometrics.
That's why we focused so heavily last week on the orb and world chain or world coin because this is blockchain slavery collectivism.
And it is the antithesis of what this country was founded on.
What was it founded on?
Separation of powers, a constitutional republic, states' rights, which we're going to get into in a moment.
But a free market, not just in a business sense, but of ideas.
And when you consolidate all of these things, what do you get?
You get less ideas, more control, more track trace database, even under your skin.
And if Elon Musk gets his way, remember, inside your brain with a Neuralink device.
So the bottom line is this guy may be offering you free speech, but the model is clear.
It is one of a great narrative, a great reset, if you will, where China is that model, a one-party system of control that they'd like to impose on the rest of the world while acting like what?
It's all about benevolence and the AI and the apps are here for your safety and security.
So the bottom line is we want less of that.
We want to be able to have choices.
And one of those choices may be to secede from a state like Oregon that is beholden to, I don't know, political policies in Portland, right?
In these big cities, just like upstate New York is beholden to much of the city policies, 20 million people, 10 million people down in the city.
Who cares about the other 10 million?
Well, we're going to talk about the Greater Idaho movement with Mike McCarter when we come back, because it's all about individual liberty.
It's all about states' rights.
And when states become oppressive, it's time for the people to stand up.
We'll be back after this.
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Counties Speak On Guns 00:09:17
Now, this is a movement in which people are standing up and saying no more.
And Mike McCarter, who is a veteran, a lifelong NRA member and a licensed firearms instructor, is here to tell us about that.
Mike, thank you so much for joining us.
First of all, why is this necessary and how did you get involved?
Well, Jason, thank you for having us on here.
You know, you mentioned a little bit earlier about China.
Well, we've got a one-party system that's trying to control the whole state of Oregon.
And the people, the grassroots people, the people that I know in central Oregon, eastern Oregon, and southern Oregon, are starting to speak out.
It's just going too far, too fast, and they're driving the agenda.
So I was asked three years ago if I would step up and be spokesman and lead this movement.
Because we're not politicians.
We're not corporate.
This is no benefit to any of us.
We're speaking out as a grassroots people of Oregon, and we enough is enough.
Well, we've got the mainstream media out there, especially the national media, trying to paint a dark light on this.
They're talking about how this is causing division, NBC in particular, between urban areas and rural areas.
But the bottom line is this isn't a right or left issue.
This is a right and wrong issue.
And when you have authoritarians dictating to the people what they will do, and they'll do it as opposed to the Constitution, we have a right to stand up and try to empower ourselves once again.
And I would say, over the last several years, during the COVID-19 44 nightmare, that was never more in your face.
No, agreed.
Agreed.
And you know, we ran polls both in Idaho and Northwest Oregon, and the people we have a majority of the people that are speaking out in favor of this issue of the urban-rural divide.
Now, the governor's new governor, as of January, said, Well, she's going to take and travel the whole state, talk to the people, find out what's going on.
I tell you what, she is traveling the whole state.
No pre-notice of where her meetings are, selected few attending, not allowing the people to speak out and express their concerns.
Well, that's crap.
And we're calling it what it is.
So we've gone county by county asking the citizens.
We were not allowed to ask them, Do you want to be part of Idaho?
That was against the state law to ask that.
We had to craft it in such a way as would you like your local government to start looking into the potential of moving your county to the state of Idaho.
And to date, 12 counties have voted in favor of that.
Some counties, as many as 74% of the people, voted that way.
So it is felt here.
We do not want to be taken care of by the government from cradle to grave.
Period.
Let us be.
And when I look at the new Democrat platform for 2024, it scares the crud out of me there because they're going after our kids, they're going after our education system.
They're going trying to get all the workers unionized and collective and control the wages, our medical system.
And now they're even talking about a state-funded bank.
Well, they're trying to grab the whole works and enough.
And like I say, the people are speaking out in large numbers.
Well, let's talk about the freedom of speech issue, right?
Because you're a Second Amendment guy as well.
And the second is really there to ensure the first.
And when you have a system in which the governor is speaking at these selective events and you're not made aware, the people aren't really being seen.
They're crafting a narrative in which, oh, nobody really cares about this.
These are just the fringe extremists.
But the reality is, as you said, so far, we've had 12 counties sign on to this.
Can you speak about some of the specific issues in Oregon right now that are very different from what's going on in Idaho?
Well, Idaho's values, traditional values of family, freedom, faith, and self-sufficiency are more like those of rural Oregon.
That's the way that we believe that it should be.
Last year, Measure 114, which was a gun bill that was brought forward by the people of Northwest Oregon, predominantly out of the Portland area, they felt that if we found a way to stop people from getting guns, folks, let me tell you, the guns are already out there.
But if you could stop the people from getting guns, then, you know, the crime would go down.
Now, that did not even go through the legislature, and yet it was passed by a majority, a very slim majority, out of seven counties, out of the 36 in the state of Oregon that passed it.
Nowhere in rural Oregon were we in favor of that.
Like one of our counties in eastern Oregon, Harney County, is bigger than five U.S. states out there.
Yet at night, you might have two police officers patrolling the whole county.
And yet you're going to take people's guns away so they can't protect themselves.
That is wrong.
That is totally wrong.
And again, you know, we believe that this can happen.
Borders have been changed before.
They're not cast in stone.
You don't have to show a passport to go from one state to another.
So why can't you take and adjust the border according to people's traditional values and bring like people together?
Now, Oregon has touted itself for years as being the first to do this, the first with the bottle bill, the first to reduce criminal problems and jailing for hard drugs.
Well, folks, why can't you be the first state to say, well, we're going to take and adjust the border to bring like people together?
And then they've got it made there because, you know, the only way in the legislature this year that the Republican Party could stop some of this freight train is to walk out the door and just not allow a quorum.
Well, it worked to a point.
And finally, they came back right at the end to do some pass some measures that were very important to the state.
But you know, not one Oregon bill was passed.
It was all from the other side with it.
So we really didn't win anything at all.
Well, if Eastern Oregon is removed from Oregon, they've got that super majority.
They can go ahead and do their social programs and their lack of criminal punishment and everything else.
More power to them.
Leave us alone.
So let's talk about the process of this because you talked about the framing that you had to use in order for to get these counties to sign on.
What exactly were they signing on to and who do you present that to?
Well, you know, we wanted to find out if the group of us, which was about four or five counties of people that got together in La Pine, my little town, in the fall of 2019, and we thought, you know, we need to do something about this.
Somehow, it's got to stop.
This freight train of just driving us under.
At that time, we didn't even know the word woke, but essentially that's what it was, the woke movement in Oregon.
And so we said, why don't we go county by county and ask the people how they felt about it?
Well, again, we had to write these initiative petitions according to the state statutes, and we were not allowed to ask a question.
We had to create a law in each county requiring their county commissioner to support and or look into the possibility of their county becoming a county of Idaho.
Well, that legislative vote in each of those counties really does not have any leverage to the state legislature other than sending a big message to them that there is a problem and we need to sit down and talk about this, which they've stonewalled us.
They think, well, if we just stay mum and don't talk about it, it'll lose its momentum and go away.
Work On Border Movement 00:12:31
We're not going away.
In fact, we're getting bigger and we're getting stronger.
So sit down and let's work this thing out here about moving the border.
So once the Idaho legislature and the Oregon legislature come together and establish a compact, which is like a contract, an agreement that says, okay, we want to move the border and here's how we're going to deal with funding and stuff like that, cost transfer, all the details and stuff.
Once that agreement is made between the two states, it goes back to the U.S. Congress for approval.
Now, we believe it's going to pass because you've got a red state, you got a blue state.
Both of you agree that you're going to take and move the border.
So there's no disagreement there.
You're not adding two senators like you would with you start a new state.
You're just shifting one U.S. representative from Oregon to Idaho, and you're losing a half of an electoral vote out of Oregon.
So it's not a big move, and it can be done.
So why don't we look at this?
And like you say, this is going on across the United States.
We happen to be the tip of the arrow right now, pushing it with their, but I hear from other people.
I hear from Illinois and New York and North Carolina and Georgia about similar issues between urban and rural.
And they're coming out and they're supporting us and they say, go get them.
Let's establish a plan on how we can do this across the nation.
GreaterIdaho.org is the website.
We've got to take a quick break.
When we come back, we're going to talk about you mobilizing and helping this movement.
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We are talking about county secession over to Idaho.
The Greater Idaho Movement with Mike McCarter.
Mike, how can people get more involved?
There's a couple of steps.
We're asking the citizens of both Oregon and Idaho to reach out to your state representatives and senators and say, let's sit down and talk.
Let's open this up.
Let's get going on this and talk about these issues going on.
The second thing they can do is they can go to our website, greateridaho.org.
They can sign up for the email system on there so they get an idea of what's going on.
And just a few weeks ago, we launched a new program called Team Greater Idaho.
And like I say, we're getting support and comments from all across the United States.
So I said, well, let's take and form a team because everybody likes to be on a winning team.
So let's form a team of people who are in support of this and start speaking out.
Now, when somebody joins Team Greater Idaho, I send them a three by five foot Idaho flag and no charge on that flag.
I send it to them.
And when it gets to them and whatnot, we want them to take and put that flag up and take a picture of it and we can put it up on social media and they can put it up on social media.
And pretty soon, you're going to see Idaho flags flying all across this United States.
So there's ways it can do it.
Now, I hate to talk about the money issue, but it takes money to run something like this.
None of our people in this leadership group are on salary.
We don't make any money of it.
In fact, most of the time we cover our own costs on gas and everything else as we travel across because it's important to us.
It's not to our benefit.
It's to the benefit of our children, our grandchildren, and future generations that this needs to be stopped right now.
Let's draw a line in the sand and say, don't come across this line with your ideas on it.
And, you know, the people in Idaho are very receptive to this.
It got through the Idaho State Representative, House of Representatives.
They passed a memorial that said, yes, let's sit down and talk about it.
We ran out of time to get it through the Senate side in Idaho, but we ran a poll of the senators and we had the votes.
They get it through over there.
So now come on, Oregon, get off your duff politely and pick it up.
Let's open these doors up and let's come together.
We've asked to speak to the governor.
We want to sit down and talk to her.
Mute.
Don't hear a word.
No response whatsoever.
They don't care about Eastern Oregon.
Now, I talked to a representative over there, a state representative, and I said, you don't listen to our people.
You don't listen to our representatives.
And he goes, stop, Mike.
We hear what you're saying.
We just outvote you.
That is how blatant this state has become.
And it's got to stop.
So if you don't want to work with us, let us go because you already have let us go.
Well, the thing is, one of the biggest obstacles out there is you mentioned Oregon to be the first.
Number one, this is really a national issue to me because you said there are other states that are fed up.
I talked about upstate New York maybe wanting to secede to Pennsylvania years ago because of the fracking issue.
You mentioned Illinois.
I happen to live in the quad cities on the Iowa side.
I hear people talk about that all the time, especially when you're talking about the Second Amendment issue.
And if you are able to accomplish this, this could have a domino effect.
And people could go, wait a minute, the states have rights and we could secede and we could move somewhere that's more politically aligned with our beliefs, especially in the First and Second Amendment, two of the most important aspects to our Constitution.
So to me, the powers that be, you know, it's not just about outvoting you.
It's also about that narrative that this can't even be done.
And that's why I think it is a big issue.
That's why people need to go to greateridaho.org, whether or not you're in Idaho or Oregon and support this movement financially.
It's a big deal.
Talk about the financials of this even more because you're filing, you're traveling, you're trying to get groups together, you're trying to get speakers.
I know all that stuff takes resources.
Yeah, it does take resources.
And in the very beginning, before we even had a donor program set up on greateridaho.org, we were funded ourselves.
And I'm proud to say that.
If I'm going to take in and speak about it and beat the drum and everything, then I'm going to open my checkbook up and help where needed to be helped with it.
But now, you know, two weeks ago, all of a sudden, when this word reached some media source, I don't know where, but we had donations that came in out of Israel, Scotland, Ireland, United Kingdom, France, Australia.
Now, they weren't very big, but you know what?
Every dollar adds up.
And, you know, a $5, a $10, a $15, whatever, that all adds up to it.
Now, yes, it does cost money to run these things, to run a campaign, to get some advertising out there, just to let people know.
Start looking at the facts.
You know, people talk about Oregon doesn't have a sales tax, one of the two states in the Union.
Well, Oregon has pushed their taxes through the corporate, which end up, we end up paying it no matter what.
We just don't see a line number.
Oregon only owns 3% of Eastern Oregon.
The other 97% is federal and privately owned.
So we're not talking about a bunch of Oregon land moving from one state to another.
It's a very small amount.
And Oregon doesn't do their funding on land.
Their funding is on income tax only.
And they're not losing that many workers if they let Eastern Oregon go.
So come on, folks.
Northwest Oregon, sit down, push your legislators, say, pick this up and bring them in and let's start talking about it.
Well, you're talking about legislators.
And I'm curious to know if there are any major legislators or politicians that have taken up your cause, somebody say on a state, senator, or congressional level at this point.
Well, Southern Oregon, Senator Linthincombe from Southern Oregon put together a memorial to get it into the Legislative Assembly in Oregon to open up these doors, and it died on the Senate president's desk.
He would not pick it up and do anything with it.
Representative Resky from this same area, he's my representative, picked it up and said, let's bring it forward too.
But even a lot of the Republican representatives are afraid to speak out to it, hoping that they're going to get the chaff, the leftover of being able to get a small bill passed or something like that.
But if they come out against it or in for greater Idaho, then they're not going to hear anything because again, the Democrat side of our legislature has stonewalled us, period.
They don't want to talk about it.
They want to exercise their power and control it over the people.
So we have Representative Barbara E. Hart and Representative Judy Boyle out of Idaho have openly spoken about this.
Bring them over here.
Let's sit down and let's start working this out, how we can get it done.
Because they want to see it too, because it's got a lot of advantages to the people of Idaho to free 380,000 Eastern Oregons, raising their state budget by $170 million, taking pressure off of the property that's being lost over there to housing.
So many people are moving into Idaho.
They're losing their agricultural land with it.
And so why not let them add on the beautiful land that we have in eastern Oregon that could be turned into some farming land and natural resources used and things like that and get more people to work.
And I mean, it's a win-win situation on moving this border, but you got to get them open and talking about it first.
I love everything about this movement.
Devin Archer Testifies 00:15:14
I am wishing you the best.
Greateridaho.org is the website.
Thank you so much for joining us, Mike.
We got to go to break.
When we come back, we're going to be talking to Chris Paul about Biden, Burisma, and beyond.
I'm going
to ask you about your investigation, but first, let me get to this breaking news.
I have in my hand a letter from the Department of Justice that was sent to the Southern District of New York on Saturday.
By the way, Devin Archer is testifying on Monday.
Do you ever see, do you usually see the DOJ send letters like this out on a Saturday?
Never, never.
This is the first time I've ever heard of the Department of Justice doing anything on a Saturday.
So what is this letter?
Can you walk us through it?
The government is apprising the court of the status of Devin Archer's appeal of his judgment of conviction, and they request that the court set a surrender date for the defendant to report to a facility.
Please walk us through what this letter says.
Yeah, the letter from the Department of Justice is trying to nudge the judge to go ahead and senate Devin Archer for something unrelated to what we're going to be talking to him about tomorrow.
It's odd that it was issued on a Saturday, and it's odd that it's right before he's scheduled to come in to have an opportunity to speak in front of the House to Oversight Committee and tell the American people the truth about what really went on with Barisma.
So, you know, I don't know if this is a coincidence, Maria, or if this is another example of the weaponization of the Department of Justice, but I can tell you this: the lengths to which the Biden legal team has gone to try to intimidate our witnesses to coordinate with the Department of Justice and to certainly coordinate with the Democrats on the House Oversight Committee to encourage people not to cooperate with our investigation, to encourage banks not to turn over bank records, to encourage Treasury not to let us have access to those suspicious activity reports.
It's very troubling.
And I believe that this is another violation of the law.
This is an obstruction of justice.
But nevertheless, we're coincidence?
I don't know.
Sounds like a conspiracy comer.
I guess we're going to find out.
Devin Archer, of course, the best friend of Hunter Biden.
He's going to corroborate apparently what we've known now for a very, very, very long time.
And that's that his father and himself were involved in corrupt business dealings with Burisma and beyond.
I've got Chris Paul on to talk about it.
He is an AMP contributor.
Chris, what do you make of this?
Well, I always love to see the drama play out, especially over the weekend, get people interested in the hearing.
You know, the thing that I always remind my audience of, and I was discussing a bit of this on Twitter this morning, is that this stuff has already happened, right?
We've known about what Devin Archer's doing.
We had an outline of the story at least in 2020 before the presidential election in 2020.
And since then, we've had the research group Marco Polo doing a full deep dive and an extensive forensic report on the Biden laptop that goes through the mechanics of the family's history of corruption.
It is a political crime family that is the Biden family business.
Devin Archer's role in that has long been known and evidenced.
The evidence is available in the report on the Biden laptop.
And certainly Devin Archer has testified to others before, particularly in his own legal issues and related to Hunter.
So whatever he's going to say to the Congress is not new to anyone with decision-making power about these issues.
It is only going to be new on some level to the American public.
And even amongst the set of people in the American public, it's only going to be new to the people who have avoided this issue for a long time or have not spent the time on it.
So, you know, the timing aspect of that is the real key for me.
This stuff is not new information.
It's going to be new information in the public.
And then we're going to see people argue about a bunch of things that have already been true and evidenced for a long time.
So I totally in agreement that none of this is new, right?
And you said 2020.
I'm going to take it back even further.
I'm going to say that Burisma as a scandal with Hunter Biden was out there around 2017, even before Biden made the statement in front of the CFR with Richard Haas that he got the prosecutor, a corrupt guy, fired on the spot by withholding a billion dollars if he didn't get fired.
And don't worry, USA Today will say, no, he needed that corrupt prosecutor fired because he was corrupt, had nothing to do with investigating his son.
Then we talk about the laptop issue.
And that issue, I think, it's been pretty well established.
At least that laptop and maybe even several other hard drives that were in the media.
We're talking 2019.
So even before 2020, our Justice Department has all of this.
All right.
Now, let's talk about what's in the media well before the 2020 election, even with the suppression.
The Hunter Biden laptop is known.
The Burisma big guy relationship is known.
The Bobolinski is known.
And like you said, all of this has been laid out.
Now we're talking, and by the way, the crimes we're talking about are largely during the Barack Star era when Joey B is the vice president.
Okay, so that's how that's how the injustice department works.
Everybody, I want to let everybody know about this.
And it would be hard pressed for me to say that the FBI, especially the CIA that is known to plant agents in the FBI, the NSA, Secret Service in particular, wasn't aware of all these crimes as they took place during that Barack Star era of 2008 to 2016, right?
So what is this?
That's the big question to me because we also have the Hunter Biden deal off the table.
Is this some kind of an internal play to get Biden to step down before the election?
What is this ensuring?
Is anybody going to jail?
Devin Archer smiling as he walks past reporters today.
So, like you said, all this has been established.
Certain parts have been played up by the media.
Certain parts have been outright ignored or forgotten.
But now we're talking about a saga here that is 15 years in the making, Chris.
Yeah, I mean, I think that that's exactly right.
And this is the real substance of what we're watching.
And this is kind of how we advance our thinking to the next level, right?
We don't need to pretend that the mainstream media's coverage and handling of this is an accurate portrayal of what's happening in the real world right now.
And what we're going to see this week is we're going to see the Uniparty left's media and influencers and the Uniparty rights, media and influencers have an argument about the truth value of the claims that are put forward about, you know, from and about Devin Archer.
And those claims are not in doubt.
These claims have been vetted over years.
They have been evidenced over years.
They are all irrefutable claims when they come out.
We are not going to be hearing mass disinformation and misinformation coming out of the congressional testimony.
And nonetheless, we're going to hear the Uniparty left claim that Devin Archer's testimony is untrue and untrustworthy, that the Bidens were not this bad, that Joe Biden wasn't involved, that none of this has any bearing on his legitimacy as president or his future in the party or in the 2024 election.
And then we're going to hear the Uniparty right argue about all those things and say, nuh, yes, it is.
It's all true.
Yes.
Like it's, it's so behind the times.
We could advance far beyond that discussion, just understanding that that discussion was already over years ago.
And what we're going to watch is people trying to catch up to that.
Now, everybody needs to catch up to it, which is why these stories are continually used and why they're important and why they're useful to pay attention to and talk about.
But for us and for people who understand these things, it's yes, reaffirm the truth value of these things, then understand the machinations going on right here and try to understand what that's for rather than bickering with leftists about whether or not this stuff is true.
The question is, how does this affect the 2024 election, right?
Because on the Trump side, we have basically more indictments coming in over the weekend as well.
We've got indictments on top of the documents.
Now, January 6th trial, you've got Bill Barr stating that if Trump gets the nomination, that he'll jump off a bridge.
It's very loving and telling of who Bill Barr is and who he's been this whole time.
I mean, I had a hard time envisioning a Trump versus Biden rematch.
I thought for sure they're going to put Biden fourth in 2024 because they don't want any debates.
Maybe his health isn't there.
Maybe they feel they can't prop him up anymore.
What do you think is going on with that?
Well, I don't know.
I don't really see how they get out of it.
And there's something poetic to the idea of Trump and Biden having another election again.
I mean, the last election wasn't real.
And we have no reason to believe at this point that this one will be.
So, you know, what are we supposed to make of the win-loss value when it comes to fake elections?
Like, that's clearly not how we're going to get out of this, right?
We can't win a fake election and expect that everything's just going to be fixed magically by the people who won fake elections.
Like, that's not really the point of this entire process.
The point of this process is to get us back to restoring the constitutional republic that our founders intended, you know?
So I don't see a solution there.
I don't see a solution with getting rid of Biden, and I don't see why that would be allowed to happen.
You know, I guess it's possible.
We're certainly going to get plenty of stories about how Biden could be replaced and would be replaced and should be replaced and who he would be replaced with, whether that's Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama or I can't imagine another person being mentioned in there.
I think it's probably one of those two.
But they're certainly not going to let Robert F. Kennedy Jr. win a Democrat nomination.
So even at that level, we already understand that the nomination is going to be rigged.
And right now, there's no reason to believe that the election won't be.
So what we're looking at at that point is not a political process playing out.
You know, these stories in some sense and how they matter to voters isn't going to make any difference because the elections are rigged to achieve a certain outcome that is planned entirely separate from the will and intent of American voters.
So, you know, processing it as a story and a narrative piece is a different approach.
And I understand that it's one that doesn't come naturally to a lot of people because we've kind of been coached into thinking about politics in the framing of the mainstream media.
But there's no reason we need to think about politics that way.
The way we've been taught politics works simply is not true.
And we can see that it's not true in reality.
We should, you know, prioritize the reality over what we're shown on television.
Well, when you look at 2024 in particular, you talked about Robert F. Kennedy Jr., right?
Definitely doesn't get the nomination.
I agree with you there.
I think they want to take it even a step further where they don't even want debates.
So, that can be interjected because it's already having this effect where somebody like Steve Forbes, for instance, is going into the media and saying that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going to be the nominee and that Joe Biden isn't going to be the nominee.
I think that's complete and total wishful thinking, but it weighs into the aspect of there needs to be at least a process and we shouldn't just give Joe Biden the nomination.
Now, with the Hunter deal crumbling just before that, I do wonder if there's a change up just because they don't think they can roll him out for the next 15 or 16 months beforehand, before they have that election.
Now, if they can get him to election day, then we do have to talk about Gavin Newsom and Michelle Obama or whatever PR all-star that we see kind of running along with Biden that they're putting out on the talk shows to push his agenda.
That is something to look at, but I think that you know, that's that's maybe not at this point, and maybe they do have to get somebody in before.
I mean, when you got a guy that was pooping his pants with the Pope two years ago, all right, there are problems, Chris.
So I'm kind of up in the air.
I'm not Nostradamus.
I didn't think that they were going to be able to put him in the first place when I watched the Democratic primary debates in 2020.
But here we are.
We're going to take a quick break.
When we come back, I want to play a little bit of the other side of the fence: DeSantis talking about Trump insults.
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Well, first of all, I mean, I think a lot of the stuff when he hits me with the juvenile insults, I think that helps me.
I don't think voters like that.
I think they look at it and they realize, like, you know what?
That's not effective.
And so I don't think it's effective.
So I actually don't mind it at all.
I think it's just a reminder why there's so many millions of voters who will never vote for him going forward.
I couldn't disagree more.
We live in America.
People love a little shizzle on their nizzle with some talking.
They loved little Marco.
One of the big things Trump had going for him was the art of the insult.
And really, in my opinion, Chris, DeSantis is kind of chirping that mainstream narrative that millions will never vote for Trump.
They voted for Trump once, but they'll never vote for him again because he called me desanctimonious.
That's like cartoon level.
People lean into that stuff.
I mean, again, this is America.
Is he paying attention to the culture?
He is completely detached from reality and has no idea what American citizens actually think.
And, you know, unless the Ron DeSantis thing is just a very clever pro-Trump red team op, this is the worst political campaign of all time and one of the worst political candidates of all time.
He has misread every possible thing about the zeitgeist and where the American voter is right now.
You know, you can say that people don't like insults and generally people don't, but people start liking insults when the insults are all directed at bad people who have clearly shown themselves to be bad people and are acting against the interests of all Americans while claiming to be acting for them.
You know, Ron DeSantis is not anywhere close to a nomination.
He has gone downhill.
He has lost 75% of the support he had back in the fall when his shadow campaign began.
He asked Florida voters to give him donations and then put him back in the governor's mansion in Florida.
And since that moment, he's done nothing but try to become the Republican nominee for president.
I don't know why a Florida voter would even want to vote for Ron DeSantis now.
And if there is a primary that ends up rolling around, he'll probably finish third or worse in Florida.
So Ron DeSantis has no path to the nomination.
Everything that the Trump side is doing is clearly effective because DeSantis has the worst people on the internet making the worst case possible for his candidacy.
They're just saying Trump is bad.
It's the same thing that these very same people tried in 2015 until Trump got the nomination.
It's the same thing they've run with saying, well, you know, Trump does some good things, but all this other stuff.
And it's the same thing that the liberals tried in 2020.
So that tactic fails over and over and over again against Donald Trump.
If they want to appeal to the most polite people in society and think that their appeals about politeness are going to win the day, then they can keep making them while they're, you know, dropping their candidate into single digits, which is where he is now.
Well, I agree with you that he's run the campaign terribly.
I agree with you that he's really not talking about substantive issues and kind of parroting this line, but he still seems to be the establishment pick.
At the same time, he's had to cut, I believe, a third of his staff because the money's not there.
It's a long way before we get to the first Iowa caucus and the primaries still.
High Red Flags, Authoritative Voices 00:08:46
But at the same time, somebody that does get it seems to be Vivek Ramaswamy.
Now, I don't think that the establishment wants to give him the nod either.
I think if it's between him and Trump, they'd probably want to give him the nod and say when he loses a fixed election, see, he just wasn't seasoned enough.
People didn't, you know, trust him enough.
On top of that, we're still a little bit racist.
He is brown.
You know, I mean, you know, all those excuses when Vivek is actually making waves with some of the things that I like.
You know, one of the things he said over the weekend that we're not getting from any other major candidate, and somebody like Trump should do this.
I mean, Alex Jones was a big part of his campaign.
You mentioned the Michelle Obama, possible Democratic president.
That's Roger Stone.
I mean, Roger Stone has been pushing that stuff, especially on Infowars.
And to say that Alex didn't have a big part in Donnie T getting elected, I think would be a farce.
I think it was a big push from that audience.
Well, Vivek has said, and I love this because he's challenging the Musker do at the same time and saying, if Twitter now X is going to be a free speech platform, Alex Jones does need to be back on because there is no such thing as a wrong opinion.
And we've got to get beyond this idea of Russian disinformation and bot networks, et cetera, et cetera, and allow people to speak freely, which is, you know, the complete opposite of everything we're hearing in the mainstream and in government hearings.
And it's all because of our safety.
Yeah, I'm 100% with you about all of that.
I think that one of the major parts of this awakening process is for people to really understand that not only is there, is it really difficult to understand what the authoritative information is right now?
Authoritative information about these subjects does not exist.
Okay.
Like we've been lied to about history.
We've been lied to about news in real time.
Everything is supported with questionable, at best, statistics.
So much of what we were taught throughout school and, you know, ideas that were reinforced by our culture simply are not true.
And we have to give up our clinging to all of these old beliefs as we realize that they're not representative of an actual objective reality as we're told they are.
And once we begin to do that, then we understand that, you know, some we're just going to have to use our own discernment and our own logic.
We're going to have to figure some of these things out as best we can and then try to figure out a way to be confident and stand in our own beliefs so that we can actually make our own decisions.
And if we don't turn out to be right about everything, that's okay because no one else is going to either.
We have this illusion where all of these, you know, these people in this professional political class are handing down knowledge to us from on high.
And if they tell us we are wrong, well, we better change our opinions to correspond to these right people.
But what about these people that has been right in the last three years?
What have they gotten right?
And I'm not sure there's anything.
If there is something that someone can name that the mainstream has totally nailed, I can't imagine it's very important on every single issue.
They've led people astray.
And so we're just going to have to exist in this space where there is no authoritative proof about reality, right?
It's partly just our perception.
And we need, it's our responsibility to try to make sense of all that.
Well, that then kind of brings us to X. What do you think of the rebranding?
Obviously opening up and at least coming at it now, you know, he let Kanye West back on, not Alex Jones yet, but he's kind of been a champion and a conduit for Tucker Carlson.
Tucker, so, you know, certainly promoting him.
I am not a Musk guy.
I think there are huge red flags everywhere, especially with the fact that this rebranding is not just about making Twitter X, but Twitter into more of an everything app and WeChat.
And now we are in the era of biometrics with WorldCoin on the blockchain now verifying that you're human, the Sam Altman project with the great orb.
I love that they have an orb and they're scanning you with that.
If we do get into more decentralized or centralized blockchain biometric currencies and app-based systems, is that this Musks move with this app?
I mean, I suppose it could be.
And I would never pretend to know what's in his mind or in his plans, but I don't, that's not something that concerns me a whole lot.
Like this is a system that we can abstain from and that we must abstain from, right?
So we're not going to do it either way.
We're not going to do the WorldCoin thing either way.
And we can try to encourage others to stand up to things like that, right?
We had. this issue come up with the vaccine IDs and the mobile vaccine IDs.
So there's not a whole lot of difference there.
They track biometrics certainly from all these apps that people spend their days filming themselves on.
I imagine they're probably reading the biometrics of you and I coming through just this communication system, right?
So they can get that stuff if they want.
People give it away in a lot of places, you know, but we can resist that system to the extent we can resist it.
And we should do that.
Ultimately, people are going to give away their personal freedom for that extra level of convenience and security.
We've seen people do that.
These people are still asleep.
And, you know, at some point, we're just going to have to let that be.
If they want to continue pursuing this, they can.
We're going to continue telling people why that's not a good idea.
Now, is all that stuff going to be linked in with X?
I don't know.
But if X at some point becomes a public utility, which is where I think that this is headed, because I think it's a public utility now, to be perfectly honest.
And if that is decentralized and it's just kind of an infrastructure and not necessarily under direct control of any sort of formalized centralized entity, particularly a government entity, then maybe there's a version of that that's okay.
And if Elon is pursuing that version, then maybe he deserves more credit than we think.
You know, to follow on with what I was just saying a second ago, there's so many of these people.
Anyone who is at a high level in virtually any field or industry has a bunch of red flags from their past.
And it's impossible to avoid that to the extent that our culture has been so infiltrated by this global regime and by the technocracy, by the big banks, by the financial institutions, right?
All of these old guard organizations, even the universities and whatnot, have infiltrated to a level where anyone who is doing business at a high level is going to intersect all of those people and do business with them at some point.
So I have high hopes for Elon.
I'm not sold in either direction.
I think that we should be cautious about absolutely everybody who's in a position of power.
I don't play black hats and white hats, right?
It is our responsibility to be always cautious about all of these people.
So that stuff doesn't bother me.
We can only ultimately control ourselves, but we can abstain from all this.
We can resist all this.
We saw what they wanted in COVID.
And if we haven't smartened up enough to take personal responsibility for our behavior and our contributions to that system, we want to avoid, well, then that's on us.
Well, to a certain extent, I agree with you, but I think with a wolf in sheep's clothing, more people are apt to kind of fall for it, especially when you look at the crypto market and how that's working in the blockchain market.
And one of the things that WorldCoin is talking about, you know, you talked about insecure elections and no reason to believe this election won't be fixed.
I'm not so sure it won't.
It's going to be to ensure our democratic processes in their statement as well.
So I'm watching it.
I'm watching Musk and I'm watching you, Chris, over at Badlands Media.
Tell people about it.
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