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Truth Bombs At The EU And 2024 Heats Up!!! | MSOM Ep. 794

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Nathaniel's Stand 00:15:08
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
Today we're going to be talking to Nathaniel Poblossi, whose father was unjustly arrested in Canada and Brian and Dwayne Cates to talk everything RFK Jr. censorship and the coming indictment of Donald Trump over January 6th.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
Thank you for having me.
My name is Nathaniel Polowski from Canada.
I'm going to speak about the consequences of abuse of power under the guise of health set out by the WHO framework that local governments take upon themselves to implement.
I'm the son of Pastor Archer Pavlovsky, who you will hear in just a minute.
I am here today in desperation, a cry for help.
I would like to stand here and tell you all the things about freedom and democracy that I like, but I no longer know those things.
They have been taken away from us Canadians.
Canada has fallen.
We no longer have freedom of religion or freedom of speech or the right to protest or assemble or associate or express ourselves or have free media or disagree with the government.
Anyone who does so is arrested, charged and jailed as political dissidents.
My father was just found guilty of inciting mischief for giving a sermon to the truckers when they went and stood for our rights in 2022.
A Christian sermon that referenced the solidarity movement was criminal in our government's eyes.
A charge that has a penalty of up to 10 years in prison.
This case sets a precedent to all Canadians and the world if you allow this to happen, that anybody, including politicians and media, do not have the freedom to say or express what they have on their hearts for fear that what they say is mischief and could be liable to prison.
I myself have been charged for preaching and reading the Bible publicly because the government claims the Bible isn't inclusive and is hateful.
This is what the Canadian government is doing to us.
In my father's case, the Crown Prosecutor, and I believe in naming names because our oppressors do not get to get away with this without being named and shamed.
So the Crown Prosecutor Stephen Johnston and Judge Gordon Crink claimed that when Pastor Arter, my father, referenced the Solidarity Movement in his 19-minute sermon, it was an act of mischief against the government.
The very solidarity movement that this parliament reveres and has placards about all over the building.
The peaceful movement that broke the Iron Curtain and repelled the communist hold on Europe.
The movement the Canadian government condemns and says is unacceptable.
So I ask you, the rest of the free world, to intercede on Canada's behalf and pressure the Canadian tyrants to stop persecuting law-abiding free Canadians, especially clergy.
They simply did their duty and gave hope.
My father told the truckers to stand for their rights, solidarity style, and to do so peacefully.
His sentencing is this August 9th, 2023, and if he goes down, we are all lost as Canadians.
If a pastor goes to prison, what can they do to the rest of us?
For giving a sermon in Canada, it is no better.
They are no better than the tyrants of old.
So please, I ask you for this for help and to pressure Canada on this matter and to help us deal with our oppressors who act like modern-day Caligulas.
Trudeau is a modern-day Caligula.
We cannot allow these mad emperors to run mad.
And remember, all of this is being done under the guise of health, safety, and protecting us by stripping our rights and ushering in tyranny.
We must not allow Canada to treat its citizens and especially clergy this way.
The WHO has structured a way to take away our rights, and our local governments are doing that.
A powerful speech in front of the EU that really puts on display the inversion of reality that we are all going through on an exponential level, and especially in Canada,
where you have a puppet that cannot go out in public without being booed, who adheres to this globalist takeover, this WHOUN DAVOS great reset agenda.
So now joining us is someone I think that we can all take something from, someone who is standing up not only for himself and his father, but his entire country.
Nathaniel, thank you so much for joining us.
I really do appreciate it.
Your father is, you know, set to be sentenced in just a few weeks under this unjust charge.
Tell us what the system has been like in this court case.
Well, we're at a very dangerous point in Canadian history because the Canadian government is punishing people for thought crimes.
So the charge that my father is facing is inciting mischief.
So that is basically saying words that the government doesn't agree with.
So it's a thought crime.
It's a subversion of free speech.
We no longer have any free speech in Canada.
They have completely taken that away.
If you tell protesters, peaceful protesters, truckers, you saw the truck convoy, there was no violence.
They were completely peaceful, standing for their rights and freedom.
If you tell the truckers, yeah, keep doing what you're doing, well, you're inciting mischief, the government claims.
The judge says anyone who participated in the truck convoy is actually guilty of mischief.
Therefore, my dad, by giving them a sermon and encouraging them, giving them hope, is inciting mischief.
So it's all thought crimes.
This is Orwellian.
And yeah, we're at a very dangerous point in Canada because anybody, if this sets a precedent, anyone can go down for this thought crime.
And whatever the government decides is unacceptable, well, for that, you can be sent to prison.
I mean, this charge is so arbitrary and vague.
There's no, like, like, what is mischief?
What nobody knows what that even means.
What is mischief?
Well, the government decides what's mischief.
And you can go to prison for up to 10 years.
My dad is facing up to 10 years for this thought crime.
So it's absolutely shocking.
The prosecutor is a psychopath who has claimed that my dad is the worst human being on earth for giving a sermon to these truckers, to these regular average Canadians that just wanted their rights and freedoms and to live their lives without government interference and governments telling them what they must put into their bodies.
The prosecutor is claiming, well, they're the worst human beings on earth.
They are scum.
He compared my dad's speech to someone who's inciting murder and inciting genocide in Rwanda.
It's kind of like the January 6th situation in the United States, where they're just blowing this into something that it's not.
The whole sermon my dad gave is on YouTube.
It's 19 minutes long.
You can listen to it.
Three times he tells them to stand for their rights peacefully.
He tells them no violence, no guns and swords.
Do this like they did in the United States with the civil rights movement.
Do so peacefully.
Do what Mahatma Gandhi did.
Do what the Solidarity Movement did in Eastern Europe.
Peacefully non-comply.
Do not work for the tyrants.
Paralyze their system by refusal to work.
And because he said that, he's facing up to 10 years in prison on August 9th.
So I went to the EU.
They actually invited my dad, but because he's on a house arrest curfew situation and he couldn't go, I went in his stead and I delivered that sermon or that speech.
And my dad was also available.
They let him give a video talk.
So he also got the opportunity to speak in European Parliament.
Members of European Parliament were completely supportive of us.
They gave a standing ovation at the end after my talk and my dad's video appearance.
And they were very supportive.
They understand.
Most of them are Eastern European members of Parliament.
And they understand what communism is.
They understand the signs of tyranny.
They understand totalitarian regimes.
And they are very sympathetic and they're completely on board.
And after my dad's talk, they were crying.
They were giving standing ovation, very emotional, huge support, which is surprising because I must say the EU is quite a globalist organization.
And yet they still showed so much support because there's still a few good politicians there.
We lack that in Canada.
We have no good politicians, not one person who stood for us.
That's an elected representative right now in power.
So to see that on a global scale, there's still a few people that are standing for us, that see what's going on in Canada and that are interceding on our behalf because that's what we need.
We need intercession.
And it was just, it was, it was honestly a beautiful thing to see.
Well, we're going to be playing that video of your father after this next break.
But first, I want to talk about the fact that this is the next human rights issue.
It doesn't matter.
You know, when we talk about civil rights and human rights, it doesn't have a color.
It doesn't have a gender.
It is humanity versus a predator class that is hell-bent on enslaving us.
And so many people thought before the COVID-19 44 nightmare, there's no way a nation like Canada will actually go with these hate speech laws that have been implemented over the years or in the EU.
Yet, as soon as that started, we saw the authoritarianism, especially in Canada, in that Western nation, in full effect.
When did you feel like this was crushing oppression and it was going to reach out into your life during that COVID-19 nightmare?
Well, like you said, it wasn't overnight, actually.
This actually took very many years.
So my dad was first arrested in 2006 for reading the Bible in a public park because the Canadian government said the Bible is offensive.
Or that's what the police officer claimed.
That's what the politicians claimed.
The Bible is offensive, so you can't read it in a public park.
And he was reading it to like a few people.
So this started a long time ago.
It just, I like to, I like to say this: like you have everyone, everyone in the United States, everyone in Canada has their rights and freedoms as long as you toe the party line, as long as you go with what the government allows you to say.
As soon as you step outside of that, that's when you're crushed by the court system and police and harassment and persecution and malicious persecution.
And my dad was stepping outside of that party line where he's criticizing government like defectors do in Russia and they're sent to the gulag.
And here in Canada, if you do that, you're also arrested and put in psych wards and put in solitary confinement for 46 days, like my dad was.
And this took a long time.
This was a long time coming.
It was law after law, kind of like Nazi Germany.
It was one little law at a time.
And Canadians were so passive about it and they let this happen.
And that's actually what I'm worried about what's happening with America.
I mean, you guys went to war over a tea tax, and now you're government-funded drag shows for underage children, and you guys are just okay with it.
Like it's just, it's mind-blowing as to the place we got as our two countries, as Canada, as the United States.
Like we were based on Judeo-Christian values.
We valued freedom.
It was in our DNA.
Canadians were the most feared soldiers in World War I and World War II.
And we've just been so passive.
We've gotten so comfortable as countries.
We've just allowed all these erosions of our rights and freedoms, and we're doing nothing about it.
And that is dangerous because if you know anything about history, you know what follows.
As a Polish man, my parents escaped communism.
I can tell you all about this.
My parents have first-hand experience with this.
Anyone who's experienced this, if you're from Cuba or Venezuela or Eastern Europe, you can tell China, you can tell everyone else.
You know the signs.
And it's a pretty credible voice.
My dad's a credible voice into this because he knows what he's talking about.
So this was a long time coming.
This took years to bit by bit kind of condition people into being okay with taking away their rights and freedoms.
And then when COVID hit, that was just the culmination of all of that.
And you saw that every like 99% of the population just caved and accepted it.
So that it was like, it was like an experiment.
Now we know that they can get away with it.
They know that they can get away with this.
And they, I mean, Canada and Australia especially, we were like the battleground for this.
They were testing what they could get away with.
And they arrested pastors.
They trampled grandmas with horses.
They beat people with batons.
They beat up truckers, arrested truckers.
Truckers are still in prison in Canada because they attended the Freedom Convoy.
There's people still in jail for January 6th.
So like, what are we doing?
We're just allowing them to roll over us.
And I think we're at a very dangerous point in history.
I think we are too.
And we do need more people to step up.
And I assure you that the vast majority of Americans are not okay with drag shows for kids.
They're not okay with a zombie poopy pants puppet in office that was obviously installed and runs absolutely nothing.
They're not okay with DC being chained up like some third world nation where the people no longer have access to it.
But like you said, too many people have had it too good for too long, just could not believe that this was happening and unfortunately have this cognitive dissonance where they think if they keep their mouth shut and they bend the knee, everything's going to be okay.
Europeans Surprised by Compliance 00:05:09
One of those EU parliamentary members has told time and time again, you cannot adhere your way out of tyranny.
You cannot keep saying yes to these things and expect a good result.
Now, I would argue that the reason that, say, Canada and Australia had some of the harshest conditions in the first world is because they've largely been disarmed.
Whereas in the United States, we still have our Second Amendment to some degree.
Do you think that really added to what your government thought that they could get away with based in these authoritarian dictates from the World Health Organization?
Oh, absolutely.
That's one of the main reasons.
I agree.
Absolutely.
In 1999, they took Australia's guns.
No guns in Australia now.
In Canada, we still have a hunting culture.
So it's going to be difficult for them to completely disarm us.
Not impossible because they're already doing it.
They've banned handguns in Canada.
We're not allowed to buy or sell handguns anymore.
And they're looking at doing a buyback.
So they want to take away our handguns for good.
That's what Trudeau is doing.
And our hunting culture, I mean, we have rifles still for hunting, but we've just given them everything.
And absolutely, you know, you know this, you know this even better than I do in your constitution.
It's enshrined for a reason because it's meant to deter both foreign and domestic threats.
And one of the like Europeans understand this better than Westerners, but it's like a foreign concept to Canadians because we've never had conflicts on our own soil that your own government can be against you.
In fact, if you look at history, most likely your government is against you.
That's just the reality.
I mean, for all of human history, we swing towards dictatorships and totalitarian regimes.
And our own governments can be against us.
In fact, they're most likely against us.
As Europeans, we know that a little bit better, but I'm still so surprised that even Eastern Europeans rolled over to this agenda that the WHO and WEF and United Nations decided to implement.
And like the whole world just kind of bent over for this.
And that shocks me.
A few countries really shocked me.
I was shocked that Poland decided to go with this stuff, the masking, the vaccine stuff, the lockdowns.
I was very surprised about that because they should know better.
Not very long ago, they were under the boots of communism and their government again did that to them.
Same with the United States.
I'm very surprised that the majority of people went along with it.
And there was a huge mass of people that didn't go along with it.
You're right.
Not everyone is okay with the drag shows and the COVID stuff and the tyranny.
Absolutely.
But your government got away with it.
And that sends a huge message.
Like in Canada, we had martial law implemented on peaceful truckers.
We had martial law implemented on all of Canadians, the Emergency Act.
And we just had the commission, the court hearing to rule if it was justified.
And they said, yeah, it was justified.
So the Canadian government got away with everything.
And that is dangerous.
There's a reason there was Nuremberg after the Second World War because that was to deter anyone from ever doing that again.
And yet, your government, our government, the world's governments broke the Nuremberg Code.
They are breaking human rights, and yet they're getting away with it.
That is shocking to me.
Well, unfortunately, Nuremberg was largely a show trial, only going after 50 or so Nazis, while the United States literally took hundreds into their uppermost echelons of intelligence services through Operation Paperclip.
And, you know, you talked about large swaths of the population being killed by government.
We're familiar with the term genocide.
Most are not familiar with the term democide.
And they forget that the Nazis largely took power over their people through what the Office of Hygiene, it was all about keeping you safe back then as well.
We've got to take a break when we come back.
We're going to play that clip of your father and talk more about global tyranny and what we as a human species can do to resist it.
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So this is Pastor Artur Pawlowski, political prisoner.
I am Artur Pawlowski, born behind the Iron Curtain in Poland, crushed by the iron fist of oppression.
The armed forces now rule in Poland with martial law and the threat of execution for those who break it.
The horrors inflicted by unchecked despotism have burned their mark into my memory.
The December of 1981, when martial law turned our cities into shadows.
The biting winters when the quest for bread met with empty shelves.
The silenced voices of Katin Forrest.
These memories led me to vow never again, never again would I bow to tyranny.
Never again would I let freedom's voice be muffled.
This promise guided me to Canada, a beacon of liberty.
Now you can keep it.
Back off, respect my rights.
Freedom is more than a word.
It's a measure of our humanity, courage, and determination.
It's a cost borne by soldiers, journalists, and volunteers.
When the shadow of tyranny found me again denying me the right to serve the needy, disregarding its own rules, I remembered never again.
After receiving new enforcement powers for public gatherings Thursday, Calgary police have arrested Arder and David Pavlovsky.
Get out of this property immediately.
Get out.
Premier of Alberta right now declared the protesting is illegal.
So when I opened my church in the protest against the government overreach, I spent three days in jail for my crime of opening the church in a free and democratic society.
Like a soldier, I've tasted the bitter price of freedom, endured the cold handcuffs and harsh judgment.
The soldier stands unflinching, knowing that freedom bears a cost.
There is a price to pay.
Like a journalist, I've dared to speak truth to power.
My voice not in reverberates through Calgary and beyond, fulfilling the duty of free speech.
Like a volunteer, I've served my community with deeds, not my words.
Knowing that true freedom lies in service to others.
St. Augustine, a pillar of our Christian faith, said, Hope has two beautiful daughters, anger and courage.
Anger at the status core and courage to change it.
For my house arrest, I pose this question to you, honorable members of the European Parliament.
How many nights in cold cell would you endure for freedom?
What lengths would you traverse to defend your people's rights?
You see, I have spent 50 nights in jail standing up for our rights to gather and worship.
It's time to rise, to say never again, to face the lingering shadows of the 20th century, to challenge the injustice of today.
It's in your best interest for people like me to survive.
Because when we go down, be sure of it.
You will be next.
And that was an extremely powerful speech by a true hero.
But you know what we say here?
You can't look to that man to save you.
You have to step up to the plate, look in the mirror, and figure out how you too can become your own hero because we all have to stand up against this tyranny.
Nathaniel, again, your father is looking at a lengthy prison sentence in just a few weeks.
I want to shift gears and talk about how my audience can help support you because obviously the legal costs have got to be tremendous in a case like this.
Yeah, they are.
And I was actually recently charged.
So upon returning from the EU parliament, I found out my passport was flagged and I was taken to different corridors and I was interrogated, my bag searched, and they said I had a warrant out for my arrest.
So I made a whole stink out of it.
It went viral on Twitter that they're trying to arrest me now, that it's not enough to go after my dad.
Now they're coming after me.
And then the Calgary police rescinded.
Obviously, they rescinded the warrant because they said there's no warrant in the system.
Canada Border Service Agency, the customs officers, they don't make mistakes like this, right?
If my passport was flagged, the officer showed me the computer system.
I had a warrant out for my arrest, but it was a municipal matter.
It was a bylaw.
But because there was so much backlash and stuff, I guess they rescinded the warrant.
But they're coming after me.
I was charged twice because I was reading the Bible and preaching within 100 meters of a drag event, even though I was on public sidewalk outside of a public library.
But the mayor of our city passed a law where you're not allowed to protest drag events within 100 meters.
So I was charged now.
I have to pay crazy legal fees.
The bylaw has up to a year in prison as a penalty.
It's a completely unconstitutional, insane bylaw.
But nevertheless, I was charged with it.
So I have to fight it.
And I had to hire a constitutional lawyer.
That's immense.
My dad's trial or my dad's sentencing.
He's already found guilty for inciting mischief, a thought crime, free speech crime.
And his sentencing is August 9th.
We're appealing it right after the sentencing.
We can't appeal it until sentencing is passed.
So we're appealing it right away.
So this is a long fight.
It's immense legal battles.
And now I have a lawyer and now he has the appeal process.
So it's a lot of money.
It's too much for one family to have to pay for.
It's just too much.
So yeah, if you'd like to help, you can go to the website streetchurch.ca, streetchurch.ca.
That's my dad's website.
And you can help out there.
There's ways to help.
And yeah, we're in this fight for the long hunt, long haul.
And we don't plan on quitting.
We haven't.
18 years, my dad has been fighting.
I've joined the fight now, and we're not going anywhere.
This is our country.
And I encourage Americans to think the same way.
You know, fight for your country.
It was based on beautiful values and principles.
It was based on morality and justice and freedom for all.
And same with Canada.
That's what Canada was built on.
It was called the New World.
And when they came here, they said, you will never be persecuted for your faith.
You'll never be persecuted for your beliefs.
You'll have freedom and freedom of speech and expression and assembly and protest.
And that's all changing because a few psychopaths that are in power who have decided to be our emperors locally and federally and provincially, they've just gone mad.
These emperors have gone mad and they think that they're gods and that we are to worship them.
But no, we have to show them that we're not backing down.
We're fighting.
And that's what my family is doing.
We're fighting.
We're not going anywhere.
We're sticking this till the end until we have freedom.
I mean, I'm going to have kids one day and I refuse to have them live in a country where they're not free, right?
It's like that old saying that was actually said at a pulpit: give me liberty or give me death.
You had the black robe regiment in the United States, beautiful, beautiful men who on Sunday were preaching a message and on Monday they had a musket in their hands because that's just the point in history where we're at.
And I'm not talking about violence.
I'm talking about we're in a fight.
We're in a fight against government.
Our own government is out to get us.
They're against us.
And we have to do something.
And that's what we call for a solidarity movement, a peaceful resistance, a peaceful non-compliance, refusal to work for tyrants.
And yeah, we've been hammered for so many years.
My dad's been charged 350 times, 16 arrests, six since COVID for reading the Bible and preaching, giving sermons, keeping his church open, like not crimes.
These aren't crimes.
And yet they're charging him with crimes.
And they're charging me for preaching and reading the Bible outside of a drag event on public sidewalk, well within my rights.
And this is what's happening to Canada.
So yeah, if you'd like to help, go to the website streetchurch.ca and you can help that way.
Well, they've attempted to criminalize speech and thought.
And for my audience in the United States that don't think it can come here, I want to remind them that they set the precedent over a decade and a half ago of quote-unquote free speech zones at political events and have really built institutions inside through Homeland Security, fusion centers, and now signature reduction that are directly aimed at the American people.
And it's really the global populace that would dare to stand up against their own governments that are really being puppeted by a globalist cabal.
Nathaniel, I want to thank you so much for joining us.
We're going to have to have you back on after they sentence your father so that we can further support this cause because it's a cause worth fighting for.
And we love you, brother.
We got to take a break.
Mr. Gates Moves to Table 00:05:30
Thank you so much.
Come back.
We're going to talk RFK Jr. censorship and this new indictment on Trump via January 6th with Brian and Dwayne Cates.
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Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to raise, I'd like to raise a point of order.
Gentlelady to stand a point of order.
Point of order.
Pursuant to House Rule 11, Clause 2, which Mr. Kennedy is violative of, I move that we remove into executive session because Mr. Kennedy has repeatedly made despicable, anti-Semitic, and anti-Asian comments as recently as last week.
Rule 11, clause 2 says: whenever it is asserted by a member of the committee that the evidence or testimony at a hearing may tend to defame, degrade, or incriminate any person, or it is asserted by a witness that the evidence or testimony that the witness would give at a hearing may tend to defame, degrade, or incriminate the witness, and it goes on.
Mr. Kennedy, among many other things, has said, I know a lot now about bioweapons.
We put out hundreds of millions of dollars into ethnically targeted microbes.
The Chinese have done the same thing.
In fact, COVID-19, there is an argument that it is ethnically targeted.
COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately.
The races that are most immune to COVID-19 are the gentleman from Kentucky has moved to table.
Mr. Chairman, I asked for a roll call vote on the motion to table.
Well, let me ask the question.
The question is on the motion to table.
The gentlelady has asked for a roll call vote.
The clerk will step back for a second.
The clerk will have to come in.
We'll call the roll on the motion to table, and then we can get back to testimony.
I think the witnesses can sit in the chairs sitting behind.
I'll leave that up to the clerks.
If the clerks are comfortable with that, yeah, why don't we do that?
Maybe we can go right down here.
Mr. Chairman, point of order.
Gentleman from Louisiana.
Is it the custom of this committee to censor viewpoints that we disagree with from witnesses?
Mr. Chairman, I have a motion on the table.
There's a motion and the vote's been moving to executive session.
We're waiting for the clerks.
Is violative of 21 clause 2.
Waiting for the clerks.
Clerk will call the roll.
Mr. Jordan.
Yes.
Mr. Jordan votes yes.
Mr. Isaac?
Mr. Massey?
Yes to not censor.
Mr. Massey votes yes.
Mr. Stewart?
Yes.
Mr. Stewart votes yes.
Ms. Stefanik?
Yes.
Mr. Fonik votes yes.
Mr. Gates?
Mr. Johnson of Louisiana?
Yes.
Mr. Johnson of Louisiana votes yes.
Mr. Armstrong?
Yes.
Mr. Armstrong votes yes.
Mr. Stuby?
Mr. Bishop?
Yes.
Mr. Bishop votes yes.
Ms. Camack?
Yes.
Ms. Camack votes yes.
Ms. Hageman?
Yes.
Ms. Hageman votes yes.
Ms. Pascat?
No.
I want to follow the rules that the Republicans made at the beginning of this conference with these House rules, so no.
Ms. Pascuet votes no.
Mr. Lynch?
No.
Mr. Lynch votes no.
Ms. Sanchez?
No, because it's violative of the rules.
Ms. Sanchez votes no.
Ms. Wasserman-Schultz?
No to allowing a witness to degrade and violate the rules and not have his testimony and degradation amplified rather than given an executive session.
Ms. Wasserman Schultz votes no.
Mr. Connolly?
No to the Soviet Politburo.
Mr. Connolly votes no.
Mr. Garamendi?
No.
Mr. Garamindi votes no.
Mr. Allred?
Ms. Garcia?
No.
Ms. Garcia votes no.
Mr. Goldman?
No to hate speech.
Mr. Goldman votes no.
Jeez.
Mr. Gates?
Yes.
Mr. Gates?
Aye.
Mr. Gates votes aye.
Just unbelievable, surreal, and inversion of reality when a hearing on censorship tries to censor the individual telling the truth and people like Wasserman Schultz are able to just make blanket statements of racism to defame a man that made no racist statements.
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that talked about what?
Gene-specific bioweapons that have been openly discussed in policy papers and government documents for decades.
It should worry everybody that the Democrats were so willing to do this, not just Wasserman Schultz, but Plaskett, who couldn't wait to get that sweet, sweet Epstein money to discuss that and much more our AMP contributors, Brian and Dwayne Cates.
Thank you guys so much for joining me.
Let's get your take on what happened yesterday with RFK Jr.
Well, what happened yesterday is that Robert Kennedy Jr., he's been causing all kinds of problems for them because he's a truth teller coming from the left.
He's coming from out of the Democrat Party.
He has the Kennedy name, and he's talking about all the, I call them, the hot flashpoints of the Greater Awakening.
Everything they've been trying to suppress, everything they've been trying to censor for the last couple of years, he's going right there.
COVID vaccines, the origins of the COVID virus, the Hunter Biden laptop, the censorship regime, the censorship state that they created, the military-industrial complex, the war in Ukraine.
He's hitting every single hot point of the Great Awakening, and he's exposing all their false narratives.
And, you know, one truth teller coming from the right and Donald Trump, that was bad enough.
Now they've got two coming at them from both directions.
And so basically, my take is what you saw yesterday is they're desperately trying to discredit and defame Robbie RFK Jr.
They're trying to defame and discredit him because they're trying to stop the bleeding.
Because he's building a following.
The more people hear him and listen to what he says, the more he makes sense and the more people respond to the truth that he's speaking.
And so they're desperate to try to shut him down.
And that's what you saw yesterday.
Dwayne, what are your thoughts on RFK Jr.?
Because I thought that he did a phenomenal job despite the attempts at defamation to bring the truth to the forefront.
Absolutely.
Everything they hit him with had already been debunked.
Let me say this.
Their constant lawfare against Donald Trump is the shot and the setup and the positioning.
And what you witnessed yesterday from RFK Jr. in front of that congressional hearing was the chaser.
He shows up to defend his position and to speak bluntly and plainly about the weaponization of government.
And we are treated from out just out of the gate.
The Democrats try to shut him down and censor him at a hearing on censorship.
Let me just say this with regards to what the earlier segment of today was about with regards to Nathaniel Pavlowski and his father, Arter.
Let me say this.
People keep seeing me, they seem to think that the Canadian problem and the American problem and the Australian problem and the EU problem are all separate.
No, they're not separate.
People want to blame Biden.
They want to blame little Castro, who is basically Fidel Castro's bastard son, and I believe he was installed the same way Biden was.
Understand something.
Everything you're witnessing in Canada from those jack boots here in this country with J6 and all the things that they're doing, all the things the DOJ and the FBI are doing at the behest of our intelligence community, because that's who's running it.
Just understand something.
They only come after you, not when you go after Castro, or Trudeau, pardon me, little Castro, or Biden, or whoever's running Australia right now for the deep state.
They come after you when you interfere with Agenda 2030.
They only come after you when you seriously impede Agenda 2030, which tells you who's running Castro, who's running Biden, who's running the EU, who's running NATO, who's running all of it.
It's Agenda 2030.
Who's running Agenda 2030?
The WEF, the WHO, whatever that is.
That's what's happening.
And RFK Jr. gets to sit there and you watch a bunch of bumbling, idiotic apparatchiks who are actually just tossing anything they can at him.
By the way, they're doing the same thing to Trump right now, and it all falls apart because everything they hit him with yesterday has already been debunked.
It's nothing but a bunch of slander and innuendo because that's all they've got.
And by the way, with Trump and his J6, I think that's going to fall apart.
The summit's falling apart in New York, and it's falling apart.
It's going to fall apart in Georgia.
And anywhere else they decide to indict him, they're just going to make him more popular.
And I don't think anything's going to be able to stop Trump's circle back to the Oval Office.
Well, we're certainly going to talk about that in the next segment.
I have to agree with you that people have to realize that this is a quote-unquote global agenda.
What happens in Australia, Europe, Canada is going to affect us here.
We got to take that break.
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We're going to talk about this new indictment that still hasn't been presented, but may be presented as soon as this afternoon.
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And with this new indictment, okay, I believe that there is the very real possibility of some type of a conviction, not because the man is guilty, not because January 6th was an insurrection, but because they are trying to hold this one in D.C.
And even with cases such as the Oath Keepers and Stuart Rhodes, they are now saying they're not satisfied with the sentencing.
He needs more years in prison.
18 is not enough.
Him getting out at 75.
Not enough.
And we know that DC is probably one of the most dangerous places to hold any type of trial.
And at the heels of the news that this is going to happen, what happens?
We get documentation that just confirms what we already knew about the Biden crime cartel, that Hunter and Daddy Joe are in business together in the most corrupt scenarios.
What are your thoughts, Dwayne?
Yesterday, Senator Chuck Grassley released the FBI whistleblower document.
There are just one or two redactions on it, but he released the full document.
Now, people would say, well, come on, we've known Joe's been corrupt for years.
We have the video of him saying son of a bitch got fired.
I mean, we have that.
Okay.
And but you have to understand what Grassley did yesterday is thermonuclear because it makes it official.
It makes it official.
What you have now is an official document which is stating that there was a $10 million bribe.
Five went to Hunter, five went to the big guy to Joe Biden, who didn't know anything about it, never involved himself in Hunter's business dealings.
Okay, this is proving the lie.
And of course, the more the Biden crime family is exposed, the harder these people go after Donald Trump.
So what will happen in DC?
Well, let's ask that Sussman guy who basically was found not guilty by a DC juror.
Do you think the same DC jury would find Donald Trump not guilty?
Of course not.
Of course not.
This is their chance to take him out.
It's not going to work because at the end of the day, everybody seems to forget in their rush to indict and in their rush, okay, you can rush to indict all day long.
You can indict a ham sandwich, as the saying goes.
It's true.
You can indict anybody, just like somebody said you could sue anyone.
You know, you might not win, but you can sue them.
Okay, here, they're rushing to indictment.
Now, what happened with Alvin Bragg and that indictment?
What happened with the last indictment with Jack Smith, you know, the intrepid Jack Smith?
What's happening to his indictment?
They're both falling apart because they have to either put up or shut up in court.
And they're going to have to present a case in court.
They're doing this.
I want people to focus and understand what I'm saying here.
They're doing this for the headlines, not for actual court appearances where they got to put up and show their homework because they can't.
Okay.
Okay.
To get Donald Trump in front of that DC jury where he can be convicted, they actually have to present a semi-coherent case.
They can't do that.
So I'm thinking this is just for the headlines.
And like the last two indictments, it's going to go nowhere.
Well, as far as the headlines, I'd have to agree with you, especially with the other cases, because they're trying to present a case where we can't give Donald Trump the primary nomination no matter what and try to raise up a DeSantis, in my opinion.
However, with this case, if they are able to get it there, I think it's quite significant because it's not the Bragg case that literally has no legs.
You look at the Espionage Act case, and I think that they're playing that one up to try to present Trump as somebody who's treasonous, but at the same time, they can incorporate Joe Biden into that because they've mentioned that he, you know, also had some documents and maybe he took them while he was the vice president, an actual crime.
Okay, so they can set that precedent.
The question is: what happens in the next several months, Brian, if they do get these cases underway before the primaries?
Okay, something people need to remember is that while they were in the midst of engineering this totally bogus Trump classified document scandal, a very real Joe Biden classified document scandal was dropped right in their lap.
And they try to downplay that and they keep it quiet and they keep that on the down low.
But there's a special counsel at their named Robert Hur who is investigating that.
And as I've said many times, there's no good explanation for how those documents left their secure locations and ended up in Joe Biden's house.
There's no innocent or good explanation for that.
So they're trying to hold everybody's attention.
They're trying to get everybody, keep their attention focused totally on Trump's case.
And you're supposed to ignore the fact that Joe Biden has his own very real classified document scandal.
They just put that on the back burner for now.
Nobody remembers it.
Now, I want to say about this case from Jack Smith.
If you have to remember, he asked for a December 2023 court date.
He wanted this case tried.
He wanted to start it this year.
And now Judge Eileen Cannon in Florida, federal judge handling this case, has set that case for six months later, May of 2024.
And I want to say, as somebody who's followed a lot of these federal cases for many years, then the various cases that I've followed, I'd be shocked if this case was heard before the election.
Because all the cases I followed of this magnitude, we have like 1.1 million documents, I think, involved.
And there's going to be more discovery and firements going back and forth.
And there could be expert witnesses that are suddenly introduced.
If some key piece of evidence is suddenly introduced in a filing, and the other side's going to demand a delay.
Oh, oh, we didn't know about that.
We didn't expect that.
Well, Judge, we need more time to deal with this that they just sprang on us.
And there's all this maneuvering that goes on in these types of cases.
And so I expect this trial to be delayed at least two or three more times before it actually happens.
And so Eileen Cannon has already set a pretty good precedent.
She set the date six months later than Jack Smith boy.
And my experience tells me that this thing is going to be delayed several more times.
And it's probably going to be delayed until after the 2024 election.
Well, in a normal world, I would agree with you, but we live in bizarro world right now.
And I really do believe they're going to try to at least fast track one of these cases prior to the election.
We've got to take one more break.
When we come back, we're going to talk Trump 2024.
Will he get the nomination?
Is there a path for RFK Jr. to get that Democratic nomination?
And would a Trump versus RFK Jr. presidency run benefit us all?
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And the question I have, is there a path for anybody but the Poopy Pants puppet in chief to get the nomination?
He says he's not debating.
The Democratic Party seems to be okay with that.
Nancy Pelosi is rolling around television and mourning Joe, calling him a kid.
Oh, he's just a kid.
He's fine.
I know 90-plus-year-olds that are great.
So, Brian, is there a way that we could possibly see an RFK Jr. versus Trump run in 2024?
Well, now that the DNC has anything to say about it, I know there's a lot of speculation out there that they're going to be looking to swap Biden out for someone like Gavin Newsom.
They're hoping to get that done.
But that would be no matter what they do, whether it's Biden or it's a Gavin Newsom, the record under Biden, the record that he's established the last three years.
And by the time we get to November 2024, it'll have been four years.
The record is abysmal.
And it doesn't matter who they swap him out with, if they do.
But the DNC, there was no way I see the DNC handing that nomination to Arthur.
It cannot happen.
They will never let that happen.
No matter how popular he gets, no matter how much of the base, the Democrat base that he sways to his side, I think he's polling at around 20, 25% right now.
And he'll very likely, he'll increase that dramatically over the next year because he's the truth teller coming from the left.
They've never experienced that before.
They've never had somebody out there directly challenging their narratives.
And I just want to point out this is the first election cycle in our lifetime that we're going to watch unfold in 2024.
It's the very first election cycle where the bath dudes haven't had the total narrative control they've enjoyed in the past.
We're going to see people like Tucker Carlson getting 90 million views for his videos on Twitter.
We're going to have independent journalists being around and people on Twitter being around to fully speak their minds.
And so this is going to have a dramatic impact.
And so I think the DNC is going to dramatically damage itself when it absolutely refuses to even consider giving its nomination to a very popular truth teller in RFK Jr.
Dwayne, is there a path for RFK Jr. to get that nomination?
And if not, is it still beneficial because he's in the arena, he's become so popular and people are listening?
He's already done the American people and the world a tremendous service, even up to today.
He's done an incredible job and something highly benevolent.
I understand people, whenever I mention this, people jump up and say, well, he wants to take your guns.
He wants to do 15 other things.
And I understand, I don't agree with all of his policies, but I don't have to.
Okay.
He's bringing the light, the beam of light, right where it needs to be.
And so is it possible for him to take the nomination?
I'm going to answer that with the same thing Trump said when he was recently asked, like just a few days ago during an interview, could you, what about RFK Jr. as your vice president, as your running mate?
And Trump said no.
And then he said a bunch of other stuff, but that's not really relevant.
That's just him being Trump and being kind.
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The word was no.
Okay, so I don't see RFK Jr. as a running mate for Trump.
And there's not a chance in hell he's going to be the DNC nominee.
That's simply not possible.
What I do see is him doing a lot of good as a spoiler candidate against Putnam Joe before they probably do replace him with Newsom or Michelle Obama or somebody, you know.
And at the same time, when Trump circles back successfully to the White House, because I believe that's happening, I foresee an interesting future for RFK Jr., perhaps as a member of Trump's cabinet, a health and human services secretary, for one, or chief medical advisor or something of that nature.
Brian and Dwayne Cates, it has been a pleasure.
Thank you guys so much.
We are keeping our eye on this election cycle because it is honestly the most important one in our lifetimes.
And we have to step up to the plate no matter what happens and challenge this great reset, great narrative agenda.
And that's what we're doing over here at ampnews.us.
It is making sense of the madness.
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