All Episodes
Previous Next
July 12, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
59:14
Matt Braynard On J6 And Election Accountability

Watch FIRST over at www.AmpNews.us Monday - Friday at 6pm Eastern

|

Time Text
Surprising January 6th Revelations 00:15:11
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
I am Jason Burmes.
Today we're going to be talking January 6th, the 2024 elections, and much more with our guests Chris Paul and Matt Brainard.
He's the executive director of Look Ahead America.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
They immediately recoiled when you asked any questions about January 6th.
And that was a tip off to me.
I mean, I had no thought in my head as I watched this happen on television and in the subsequent weeks that U.S. law enforcement or military agencies had anything to do with it.
That never crossed my mind.
I never thought there was, it was a false flag or anything like that.
I'm not a conspiracist by temperament.
I never thought that.
And then I interviewed the chief of the Capitol Police, Stephen Sund, in an interview that was never aired on Fox, by the way.
I was fired before it could air.
I'm going to interview him again.
But Stephen Sund was the totally non-political, worked for Nancy Pelosi.
I mean, this was not some right-wing activist.
He was the chief of the Capitol Police on January 6th.
And he said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that crowd was filled with federal agents.
What?
Yes.
Well, he would know, of course, because he was in charge of security at the site.
So the more time has passed, now it's been.
The more time has passed, the more revelations have come.
But as somebody that was there on the scene of January 6th, it was very evident that obviously there were federal agents and assets.
And yet we have this mythos out there that there's some kind of domestic terror threat while people who did little more than use the bathroom are looking at years and years in prison and painted as domestic terrorists.
Meanwhile, you're not allowed to question the election of 2020 and anything that may have been fraudulent about them, especially the machines.
Of course, the machines love us and so do companies like Dominion and others.
I promise you, they absolutely do.
So here to discuss those issues and much more is the executive director of Look Ahead America.
He is Matt Brainard.
Matt, thank you so much for joining us.
What do you think of these revelations from Tucker Carlson really just telling us what we already knew that there were indeed federal agents and assets on the scene of January 6th?
It's not surprising.
It's not surprising to me.
It's not surprising to you.
In fact, there have been a tremendous amount of individual videotape released of that day showing very suspicious behavior of individuals who were not targeted by the FBI for arrest, who were not on billboards, or in some cases, they actually showed up as being targets of the FBI for investigation and then mysteriously disappeared.
And there's really no question about whether or not there were federal agents in the crowd, Metropolitan Police, plainclothes people in the crowd.
The question is, well, what did they do in that crowd?
Did they encourage people to push forward?
Did they themselves break windows?
Did they rally the crowd to do illegal behavior?
And I think that what we really need to have is probably two things.
Number one is we need a complete public release of all of the footage that the Capitol has, 14,000 hours of it that's been kept from us, that's been teased out a little bit here or there.
That needs to be released so that the army of keyboard warriors, many of whom probably watch this show or who help out Look Ahead America, can help document exactly what happened that day.
But secondly, I think that the voters need to hold the people who are running for the highest office in the land, the only office that has any ability to do anything about this, accountable for what they're going to do for the people who are politically persecuted.
So, look ahead: America has launched a bounty.
We're going to pay anybody $1,000 to ask the presidential candidates, Republican, Democrat, Green, Independent, et cetera, who are on our list, what they're going to do for the January 6th political prisoners, especially those who've not been charged with any violence, which is the vast majority, like 95% of have not been charged with any violence.
So, we're hoping that citizen journalists will ask the presidential candidates these questions so that voters can be informed when they cast their ballot about what they're going to do about the greatest civil rights violation of our day.
Absolutely.
And I like that you talked about the importance of the video.
Let's look at that Tucker Carlson expose.
Literally, I believe within a week of him releasing the Jacob Chancely footage of him being paraded around the Capitol, all of a sudden, this guy that was looking at several more years in prison was in a halfway house and has now been released.
And let's be honest, Jacob Chancely was never violent, right?
And that's the power of video.
And that's why I also love the power of the people asking the real questions.
We have to be the journalists that hold these people accountable.
And I remember when I was doing this 15 plus years ago, it was a little tougher then.
You know, you didn't have an internet-connected device in high definition.
You have to get them on a handy cam, ask the question, upload it, email it to people, try to make it go viral.
Now you can do it in real time.
I love the fact that you're giving a monetary reward, but I would encourage people to do this despite that and hold these people accountable because, like you said, a lot of these people, the vast majority of them, committed absolutely no violence that day.
And many of them have been in solitary confinement.
You know, and I'm happy because we've already cut our first check for $1,000.
Somebody asked Governor Asia Hutchinson, not exactly the biggest name in the presidential derby, but someone nonetheless, and I was very happy to send that check.
I wish I could give more because it just gives a little bit of an incentive and also helps raise the profile.
Because what I want to have happen is for each of these candidates to be asked this question multiple times for them to know that they have to have a competent answer on it.
It's because the treatment of these individuals to me is just absolutely outrageous.
Just on Friday, I was talking to one gentleman because, you know, look ahead, among the things we do on this front is a podcast where we give these political prisoners the chance to tell their stories.
One gentleman, he has never done anything political.
He had never heard of any group like the Oath Keepers until actually January of 2021.
He wanted to go to DC to just see what was going on.
And he happened to be pushed as part of a mass into the Capitol building.
And he was just there because he had this bizarre idea that he was there to provide medical assistance because he's a medical professional.
He was there to provide medical assistance to help keep President Trump safe or something.
And he got brought in with this group, the Oath Keepers, and he had never heard of them before.
He was pushed in the building and then he exited his ballot as soon as he could.
Three years.
He's gotten three years for that.
And you can kill somebody and get away with less time than that.
It's absolutely outrageous.
And it's why it's because he's being scapegoated and others like him because there needs to be a narrative.
He's being scapegoated for the sake of a narrative that there was ever a serious insurrection on January 6th and not just a rowdy protest, not dissimilar from the many that Code Pink has had in recent years as well.
And that I'm sure we're going to experience many times in the future when it's a left-wing cause, but it's treated with kid gloves.
So, that is something that you and me, there's not a whole lot we can do.
It's really the next occupant of the White House that has the power to set that agenda to issue some much-needed pardons.
And again, you and I were also in the field of educating voters.
So, getting every presidential candidate on the record for what they're going to do to these political prisoners to do for them, that's really our role right now.
So, I appreciate you having me on to talk about this program.
And we look forward to releasing many more videos, and we'd love to send some of them your way so you can air them as well.
Well, it's certainly something that we would want to air here because the citizens out there that are holding these people accountable are so, so important to this process.
They are at the crux of the issue.
It's shining the light of this darkness out to the public is how we're really going to make any kind of change.
And I don't know that we can have a free and fair election in 2024 unless we clean house on a number of issues, including infrastructure within the voting itself.
I think it's great that we're going after these candidates, but for 2024, you know, we already have an administration that's told us they're going to arrest more people, not less, for January 6th in the coming months.
If they maintain office, I think that you could also see arrests for those that basically they associated in their faux hearing via the January 6th trials in an executive TV producer where you had the likes of Alex Jones, Tim Poole, and other internet personalities somehow being interwoven into this narrative of an insurrection that didn't happen, despite the fact they weren't at the Capitol.
You know, Jones actively outside the Capitol told people not to go in.
So, how do we, I mean, I think this is a good way to overcome that narrative.
How can we take it further?
There's only so much on the legal front that we can do, but what we can do is help educate our fellow voters on the importance of this issue.
And the most important thing that we can do is encourage them to vote and vote early, vote as early as possible in the process.
And I know that there's a controversy around this issue: whether we should be doing ballot harvesting or GO TV.
And I know that you raised some issues about election integrity in the beginning.
Look, I'm probably one of the nation's foremost experts on election integrity.
I'm probably the leader of the only organization that has successfully gotten people convicted for voter fraud and gotten people who are illegally registered removed from voter rolls.
We've advocated and successfully passed legislation around the country, but since 2020 to help ensure election integrity, improve the process, and we've done that in states all across the country.
We've done a better, a phenomenal job documenting illegal ballots in states like Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Arizona.
But what I can say is that we're focused like a laser on election integrity.
We've given people tools to ensure an election integrity that no one has ever done before.
We can give you in your county every voter that deserves scrutiny because they have moved away and no longer likely belongs on that voter roll.
So we've put that data in the hands of thousands of activists in the last election in 10 different states all over the country.
But what we can't understate enough, and we're involved in a very big project here in Virginia this year because we've got some very important elections here.
And that is we've got a very aggressive early vote GO TV ballot harvesting program here in Virginia targeting the many disaffected patriotic Americans of rural and blue-collar backgrounds who do not vote.
And because turnout is so low in the 2023 elections here in Virginia, every vote counts that much more.
So while we're entirely, We're not letting anything slip on the election integrity side.
We are going to do election monitoring, voterless hygiene, all those kinds of things.
What I cannot encourage enough is that we have to vote and ideally vote as early as possible.
And there are a lot of reasons for that.
I'd be happy to go into that if you'd like.
Well, we've got to take a break, but when we come back, I do want to talk about our election infrastructure.
I want to talk about the machines, audits, mail-in ballots, and so much more.
We'll be back after this.
It is making sense of the madness.
In today's world, taking care of your health has never been more important.
But sometimes it's not easy to find the time or the resources to see a practitioner in person.
That's why AMP is proud to offer Global Tech MD Telemedicine.
With just a few clicks, you can connect with a health practitioner from the comfort of your own home.
And for a limited time, you can get your first month of Global Tech MD Telemedicine for just $9.95.
After that, it's only $29.95 per month.
But that's not all.
Global Tech MD offers both traditional telemedicine and alternative method plans, starting at just $69 per month.
So, whether you're looking for traditional telemedicine or holistic approaches to wellness, AMP and Global Tech MD has you covered.
Visit ampnews.us to learn more about Global Tech MD telemedicine and their affordable health plans.
Your health is our priority, and we're here to help you live your best life.
We are back.
It's making sense of the madness.
We are joined by Matt Brainard.
Now, Matt, a lot of people referenced the Carter Baker Commission during the election, specifically on mail-in ballots.
And obviously, mail-in ballots are a way for massive corruption, which I think we saw in 2020.
But they also talked about the machines.
And Carter specifically said, you know, we don't really do an audit of these machines.
You know, I suggest a 3% audit.
I think that's extremely low.
I think we want at least a 30% audit, if not auditing half of these machines.
And to me, the bottom line is: unless we get fair audits out there, we have this great narrative going that people hate Trump and that he's a massive criminal.
It doesn't matter that he's getting standing ovations at UFC events.
These are the people that are in control of the technology and then the censorship that comes after these votes.
So aren't the machines?
I mean, I've been talking about this issue since Diebold at the crux of the issue.
Sure.
I will just to go back slightly to mail.
You're right that mail is a vector for a lot of illegal ballots and we've documented many of them.
But even though it is a vector for illegal ballots, that doesn't mean that you, a legitimate voter, should not cast your ballot as soon as possible via mail.
And you can look, even if you want a good example, is Arizona, where I think it was clerical incompetent.
Some people think it was something more nefarious, but there were a lot of problems at some of those voting day locations that caused long lines and other confusion and may have discouraged some people from casting ballots.
Voting Equipment Monopoly 00:13:38
There were no issues with anybody that cast ballots through the mail.
But now you're asking about machines.
And look, I have gotten two threatening letters from Dominion myself.
I've had to have attorney's fees to respond to those letters.
I have stopped Dominion's purchase or the state of Louisiana from buying $110 million worth of equipment in Louisiana.
I'm currently suing Ohio because they violated their own laws in purchasing Dominion equipment.
So I've been fighting it tooth and nail.
And I do believe that there should be different ways to conduct audits to make sure that the machines are accurately tabulating votes.
We found cases where through clumsy incompetence that these machines have miscounted votes.
And one very specific case we did a good job documenting.
But the real problem with these machines, and it used to be a bipartisan issue, the real problem is that there's no accountability for the software, the schematics.
A county, a state can spend millions of dollars on this equipment, and they don't have the right to open it up with a screwdriver.
They don't have a right to see the software, the code that's behind it.
So that's why we've been, and this is the reason why Dominions come after me.
It's not because I've made claims like, you know, that can be litigated, like what was done with Fox News.
It's because I am loudly advocating that all voting equipment be required to be open source.
And that means that the software is publicly available and can be reviewed, and the hardware is publicly available.
And the states that buy it can do their own internal audits of how valid that software is.
And not only does that instill greater trust in the tabulation of elections, but it reduces the cost because when you have a vendor who's the only one that's allowed to provide services for, to repair, to update closed source black box voting equipment, that's a monopoly.
It dramatically raises the prices.
So open source voting equipment would be half the cost.
And you could create home state jobs with it because a local tech firm could then service that election equipment rather than being dependent on an out-of-state or even out-of-country voter data vendor like Dominion or the ESNS, other companies like that.
So there's a lot of reasons and a lot of reasons for bipartisan agreement and nonpartisan agreement why we should get rid of black box voting equipment.
That's something that Look Ahead's been leading on for years.
And we've actually successfully gotten legislation introduced in New Jersey of all places.
And in fact, we've actually made progress in California on this issue because now if somebody has open source voting equipment, they want to get it approved by the state for use in elections.
Now it's free.
They don't have to pay any fees.
And we've helped advance that issue in places, you know, as far-flung and perceivingly lost hope and lost cause as California.
Well, I think you have to, especially if you're going to use the machines.
You know, I'm one of those guys that really wants a paper ballot and a real audit in real time with the polling outside and those type of numbers reflecting what we might see.
And I guess that you could argue that true polling could happen in 2024, but I'm not so sure.
And I think that we have a real problem with our infrastructure when in 2020, you had a Supreme Court even narrowly rule that basically there was no standing to audit any of this.
What do you have to say?
I mean, as somebody who's inside the legal system fighting this good fight about the fact that we have more and more judges that outright won't even look at the evidence anymore.
I think that since 2020, a lot of stakeholders have gotten much more involved than they ever were before.
Look, look at Head America.
We've been involved.
We did our first election monitoring in 2017 here in Virginia.
So we've been involved with this for a long time.
But since the 2020 election, I personally witnessed that many stakeholders, including parties, election integrity operations at the state level, have become, have completely infiltrated the election process where they have eyes and ears everywhere.
I remember on election night in 2020, following another county party person who was basically monitoring the movement of a Dropbox back to the central counting office.
And I know that in those counting offices from coast to coast, we've done a really good job of getting people to observe and filling all those election monitoring jobs that previously were empty.
So I think that between the different stakeholders, the parties, et cetera, they've done a very good job, as well as some states have actually done a good job of doing things like banning Zuckerbucks and increasing the requirements for hygiene on voterless.
I mean, even the state of Georgia followed the cue from Look Ahead and removed 100,000 illegitimate voters from their voter rolls, following our very own example that we set for them, even though they don't give us credit.
So I think things on the election integrity side are moving in a much better direction.
And look, if this is something you care about, by all means, volunteer for your local party to be an election monitor.
A lot of times those jobs go unfilled because they have nobody to fill them.
And this is an opportunity for some real grassroots activism.
You know, I want to shift gears back to January 6th for just a minute and this kind of great narrative, not only that there was an insurrection, but there's domestic terrorists everywhere and white supremacy is also aligned with these people.
Everything's going to happen to the point where the family members of these January 6th political prisoners, real prisoners, are being demonized in the media for trying to have a truth and light festival.
How do we combat these great narratives that are constantly pushed upon us by the mainstream media?
Well, fortunately, we're in a unique time in the media in this country.
Most of the people who watch CNN, almost without exception, those people don't matter to us politically.
And nobody that pays attention to CNN matters to us politically.
And everybody that matters to us doesn't pay any attention to CNN.
So we've got a very segmented media these days.
So, you know, whereas it used to kind of doom you if your policy position or your candidate was demonized on the evening news with Dan Rather or whomever back in the day, the audiences have been so segmented that it doesn't have the same punch power.
It doesn't have the same ability to destroy a candidate or to hurt a movement as it did in the past.
And I think that you're kind of a good example of that because there are a lot of people that get their news from you that trust you that they don't care what the New York Times says.
They don't care what CNN or MSNBC says.
It's very segmented.
But on the other hand, that's kind of dangerous because you have the people who only get their news from MSNBC or CNN or the New York Times.
They're walking around saying, hey, what are you talking about?
They're like 20 police officers were murdered in cold blood on January 6th.
And they believe that because they don't have any countervailing media source.
So, you know, it doesn't trouble me, but it does trouble me for that reason.
And in some ways, it's affecting our politics and our campaigns because you get candidates who are running for offices, either Republican or Democrat.
And whereas in the past, they might buckle down and stomach a tough interview with CNN or the New York Times.
Now they just ignore them.
And there's no reason not to ignore them because the people we need to vote for don't really pay attention to CNN.
The people that they need to vote for them, maybe they don't pay any attention to your show or to Fox News or to Breitbart.
So let's shift to 2024 then, because obviously these narratives are kind of everywhere.
Trump seems wildly popular.
I think there are a lot of people out there that just assume that he's going to get the nomination.
I really like your approach of the bounty on any presidential candidate because I don't think that we know what's going to happen in 2024, not because he's not wildly popular, but because it's largely out of the people's hands in these primaries.
And I think that you're going to see a lot of mainstream Republicans kind of team up on him as these criminal court cases take place, especially the one with the quote-unquote Espionage Act and the documents.
What do you see developing for 2024?
Is Trump going to get the knot?
Is that a possibility?
Is it a probability?
It's definitely a probability.
It looks likely.
The truth is, I don't know.
And I'm not going to believe anybody that says they know for certain.
There's a lot of time between now and Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina.
But what I can tell you is that President Trump's campaign is firing on all cylinders.
And while I think others had hoped that some of these indictments would cause him to stumble, what they've actually done is rally the base to him and also taken up so much oxygen in the room for news coverage of alternative candidates, such that it's basically taking away their opportunity to put themselves forward because there's all this focus on the indictments and the responses and everything surrounding the case.
Because just imagine if there was no indictment in New York, there's no indictment from Jack Smith's grand jury.
What would we be talking about?
You know, maybe Mike Pence has a new initiative on gun rights and DeSantis has got some plan to secure the border or whatever it is, but they don't have the room or the time, the airtime, the oxygen to advocate for themselves in that way because all of this huge media firestorm, left, right, center media, et cetera, around these indictments.
And to the lay Republican, it looks like the Biden administration is targeting a political opponent over what's, you know, especially the New York indictment, which is really bizarre.
That a president who has the ability to declassify documents, had some documents.
What documents did he have?
It just, it's like he got into a fight with the National Archives librarians.
And so they're trying to put him in prison for that.
So it's really just bizarre.
It's not the kind of thing where you have like, you know, there were some prosecution of politicians in the past where they're caught on video, you know, accepting bribes or something like something with that level of clarity.
Or like with Bill Clinton, where he clearly committed perjury.
There's nothing like that.
He's just gotten in a fight with some librarians about some papers.
And was he selling them to the Chinese?
No.
Was he using them to blackmail somebody?
No.
And it was clearly just some archival material.
And so because of that, while the left is really hyperventilating over, oh, we're finally going to get Trump this time.
How many times have you heard that?
How many times have you heard that since 2016?
Oh, he's finished now.
He did what?
Oh, it's over for him.
So he still maintains his tremendous charisma.
He hasn't really been challenged on that front by any of the other candidates, as much as they might try.
He wins on charisma, and I think that he wins on infrastructure and organization.
And honestly, you see other candidates tripping over easy baskets.
You see DeSantis being constantly handicapped over and over again by stupid decisions made by his staff who are clearly not cut out for a national campaign.
It's like, oh, they think they win an easy basket race down in Florida where they've got a great governor with a great record and an absolutely crippled, horrible Democrat opponent.
Of course, they're going to win by a landslide.
And to think that a team that could get you through that big, difficult struggle can get you through a presidential is it's bizarre to think that.
And there really needs to be a correction on his team.
Everybody else, you know, I've heard them referred to as Keebler Elves.
It's going to be tough to see how any of them break through.
But, you know, Iowa is a place where, you know, dreams are made.
You see a lot of unexpected candidates come out of the rearview mirror and stunt the frontrunners.
So it's a very peculiar place and a difficult place to get a good read on.
It's even a difficult place to poll.
So like I said, if there's going to be a breakout, it's probably going to have to happen in Iowa.
And I don't even know who that would be for.
Yeah, I mean, I think that Rand Paul might eventually put his hat in the mix.
I don't know how much support you get compared to Trump because obviously Trump is just that popular.
I'm in total agreement there.
My issue, and by the way, I think that both charges are extremely thin.
The fight with the librarians, however, has been escalated to the Espionage Act.
And then you see a similar thing, which is actually worse if you actually believe there's any problems with this at all with Biden.
And if you say had a fixed election in which Biden gets in there, but doesn't get sworn in because they threaten him with the same thing they're going to try to convict Trump of, it's kind of a deep state wet dream.
That's all I'm saying, Matt.
I hope it doesn't happen.
I'd like to see, obviously, Trump beat every single charge, but I think that this, I don't think they'll get him in New York.
I'm worried about the espionage stuff.
And I'm worried about 2024 on a lot of levels.
I know that you're out there.
The bounty is great.
Tell people about the website, the organization, and how they can help you specifically.
Look, I'm going to give everybody in your audience a chance to have a bigger impact on election than any of them have probably ever had in their lives.
And it's very simple.
Sign up at lookaheadamerica.org.
And in a few weeks, I'm going to send you the address of 10 voters in Virginia who usually don't vote.
And I'm going to ask you to send each of these 10 people a postcard from your beautiful part of the country, encouraging them to show up and vote, to vote by mail, vote early in person, or even vote on election day.
But I'm going to give you their addresses.
So to get those addresses, please sign up at lookaheadamerica.org, send them, and then you will be given the credit, I believe, for getting more people to vote than you probably ever have before.
Sign Up for Change 00:09:03
And it costs you almost nothing.
So please sign up at lookaheadamerica.org for our postcard program.
I can't wait to get you engaged.
Thank you so much, Matt.
We will be back after this with Chris Paul talking the sound of freedom.
It is making sense of the madness.
Banks are supposed to be the safest placeholders for cash in the world.
But in 2022, that changed.
The Federal Reserve pulled out 2.5 trillion of liquidity out of the banks.
And the Fed also changed the requirements so banks don't need to keep any funds on hand.
This means banks are starved for liquidity and have now become very dangerous places to hold your assets.
Get out of this system with the world's safest and most private assets, silver and gold.
Call Kirk Elliott PhD at 720-605-3900.
RateLock is an innovative new feature that allows you to lock in your rate of return at any time during the year to lock in these volatile upswings of the market.
And unlike CDs and money market accounts, they accumulate tax deferred and can participate in the upside of market indexes.
And they're probate free and they can provide income that you can't outlive.
Let a company you can trust help you select a rate lock annuity that's right for you.
Call the Cleveland Insurance Group at 844 USA 2024.
That's the Cleveland Insurance Group at 844 USA 2024.
the cleveland insurance group 844 usa 2024.
look whether you're a parent or you're somebody that has younger siblings or you got nephews nieces or you're just concerned about the direction america is going to you have to go watch the movie sound of freedom We were in the Bahamas and we couldn't find a movie in any theater.
And then finally, we found a spot.
We went to, we put the kids in the other room to watch Indiana Jones and then we sat there ourselves and a few others.
And from the beginning of the movie, you're going to feel the pain, the rage.
There's going to be so many unique emotions you're going to have with the opening scene on what happens to the brother and sister and the father.
And you're going to say, that's real.
Then when you see the statistics, 22 million new child pornography pictures uploaded on the internet just in the last year, a 5,000% increase in the last five years.
And the whole concept about the fact that this is a $150 billion year industry, like $150 billion out of your industry, it says, you sell cocaine one time, but you can sell a child five to 10 times a day for 10 years.
Look how profitable that is.
And just last year, 2 million kids were taken for human trafficking just this year in the last 12 months.
I applaud the guys who funded the movie.
I know there was a crowdsourcing way of getting the money.
Obviously, Jim Cavizo was the right guy for it.
It's Tim Balor being the story of it behind it.
Everybody has to go watch it.
And the most interesting thing about it was who bashed the movie.
Just watch the critics on how they're bashing the movie.
Oh, this was just a queue, you know, right?
Like, what?
What?
What part of the message has to do with that?
The stats are being given from the federal government and you're not defending people having to watch this to see what's going on to protect their kids.
Very weird who recommends you go watching this movie and who bashes the movie.
All I need to know is if you bash watching this movie, it says a lot about you and those who support going and watching the movie.
It also says a lot about you.
All I'm saying to you is go watch the movie.
Spend two hours.
At the end, not going to tell you what Jim says, but if you know, you know.
Go watch the movie and see what Jim Cavizo says.
At the end of the movie, don't walk out like many of us do.
Stick around three minutes after the movie ends.
He gives a three-minute message that you have to hear.
So anyways, part that I'm excited about, as weird as this sounds, is the fact that there are more people in the media industry that are financing movies like this, that are talking about movies like this, that are not afraid to produce things like this.
And we're learning.
People are getting exposed.
You got to love what the media industry is capable of doing when it's held by right people, funded by those who are concerned about it.
And that's why I'm confident because I think more and more people are waking up, finding each other and saying this is a fight I'm willing to fight for.
It's worth fighting for.
So anyways, long story short, go watch the movie.
You are going to be disturbed, but it's a good kind of disturbed that we all need to be.
Only the paranoids survive.
Take care, everybody.
Bye-bye.
Love the message from Patrick Bett David.
We have to be the ones in the new media to take on the CNNs, the Guardians, the Rolling Stones that have demonized this film and try to associate it with wild conspiracy theories when it's not only based on a true story, but actually very tame when it goes into the human trafficking and child trafficking in itself.
To break that down and much more is AMP News contributor Chris Paul.
Chris, what are your thoughts about what Patrick Bett David just had to say?
Well, I think he's right on track.
I went and saw the movie on Friday evening.
And the thing that was really stunning to me was, you know, even being on this side of things and being familiar with the conversation around the massive, really slave trade that we have in this world, particularly at our southern border.
It's not just labor, it's sex as well.
It's not just men and women, it's children as well.
You know, we can be aware of that and we can begin to get some of the, you know, insight into what the real world impact of this real business is.
But there's something different when you have this stuff characterized and made real on screen.
You know, there's this kind of empathetic reaction that we have watching the faces of other humans as they endure this, even in a fictional setting.
You know, we understand the power of what television and cinema are able to do.
And they have a lot of power on the bad side in being able to brainwash us and convince us of so many things that aren't true.
And through these last few years, you know, we're kind of reversing that process and seeing that we can be woken up the same way that we were put to sleep.
And, you know, personalizing it and characterizing it this way really had an impact on me.
You know, by the time you get through this film, and it really is very tense, you know, it's not going to leave you feeling good.
Um, I felt ill for an hour afterward just because it is, you know, it's really an experience: two hours of complete tension, and then when it's over, you're just left with the disgust and the questioning of how it's possible that humans could actually do this.
So, I think it's very powerful.
I recommend everyone see it.
Um, I understand it's not going to be for everyone, and it might not be an enjoyable experience, but I think it's important to uh, you know, to sit with these ideas and let them make you feel bad because it's something real in the world.
Well, I think it is an important picture.
I also watched it last week, and you know, it took me back to an era of films that were story-driven and character-driven, uh, kind of like in the 90s.
And I almost likened it to a Donnie Brasco-type film where in the background there's his family, but really, he's there to take down the mob.
And in this, you know, the background, Cavizel's family is there, but he's really there to take down these child trafficking networks that he has seen firsthand over his years within Homeland Security and other agencies.
And it's a very straightforward picture, but it is very disturbing when you see some of the things, even though they're not depicted that graphically, happening to children, you know, from even that opening scene.
And it's just done so well.
You know, I discussed a little bit on the attacks of this is associated with conspiracy theories, it's boomer dads with brain worms, are some of the headlines out there.
But I read on my other program earlier today, uh, the Roger Ebert review, where they gave it two stars and just tried to say it was a bad movie.
No, this is a powerful, dramatic depiction of an actual event that can reach people that maybe don't watch documentaries that do need that Hollywood-esque push.
And to have it crowdsourced is really another aspect of what Patrick Bett David was talking about: that the people can take back the entertainment industry.
Avoid QAnon Echoes 00:03:33
We don't just have to let Disney shove down our throats what we don't want.
This thing rivaled and took on Indiana Jones, actually beat it on July 4th.
And you look at a couple weeks ago, Chris, the DC film The Flash, which had a $200 million budget, was pumped all over the place.
Sound of Freedom did the same numbers.
That did 40 million.
This did 40 million.
No one sees that trash.
It doesn't hurt, you know, that people are aware that your star is under all sorts of weird pedophilia accusations with children and is also identifying as non-binary.
It's not what we want, but that's what's being promoted.
This is a right step in fighting back, Chris.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you.
And just to comment on the reaction that we've seen from the media, you know, they use QAnon, their phrase QAnon, as a signal that's meant to tell their audiences, this is a subject that you will be mocked and ridiculed for if you approach it.
You go anywhere near this subject, and we are going to say that you're one of them.
And for a lot of people, that's scary enough that they will simply avoid it.
And they'll tell others to avoid it as well, because it's through the telling of, you know, through telling others that this is something you should avoid that proves their allegiance to their side, right?
So that's what they do this for.
And it's really just, it's, it's obvious, it's pathetic, it's disgusting.
You know, CNN has this segment that's gone viral with one of their hosts and the QAnon researcher, the guy who tells everybody how bad QAnon is, Mike Rothschild.
You know, and they discuss, oh, yeah, this is a real problem, but not on this scale.
And they're really just trying to trick everybody out there into going to see this movie.
So the best thing you can do is not see it.
And, you know, I think that all this is blowing up and backfiring in their faces.
It seems to just be working as free marketing.
So, you know, in my eyes, keep doing it.
Please, by all means, show everybody who you are.
And it's especially funny because CNN two years ago, or not even two years ago, was that network that had multiple producers and staffers in trouble for claims of pedophilia.
Well, you look at CNN and you look at these attacks, and obviously that's what Patrick Bett David was talking about.
I saw the segment with Mike Rothschild that you were discussing.
And when it wasn't QAnon, it was QAnon adjacent.
As I've told people, no Adrienochrome, no wealthy Elite in this picture.
You know, they don't even hint at a politician or a Holly Weirdo abusing a kid, even though there's plenty of mainstream stories documenting as such.
No, they went the route of showing the South American trade and how they fool children and their families into basically abducting these kids and then providing them for sex on an island.
And to me, one of the most powerful things at the film, maybe it's because I'm a documentary filmmaker, is at the end of this, after you watch this very powerful movie that starts with a certain scene, ends with a certain scene, wraps it up into a nice bow, you see the operation.
Mel Gibson's Awakening 00:08:07
You see the footage of the monsters that actually are doing this and you see them being arrested.
And I'm just so happy that they're also producing a Angel Studios, a documentary series with R Rescue and Tim Ballard.
I want to talk about that and much more.
But Dana White also gives a shout out on the other side of this break.
It's Making Sense of the Madness.
Hello, I'm Mike Lindell, and my employees and I want to thank each and every one of you for your continued support.
With everything going on right now, your rest is so important.
That's why we're having the biggest MyPillow sale ever.
Not only are my bed pillows as low as $19.98, but you can get the best body pillows ever.
Regular $89.98, now only $29.98.
So go to mypillow.com or call the number on your screen.
Please order now while quantities last.
Get more out of your AMP news experience with AMP Insider with seven pillars of focused information, including health and wellness.
Receive essential courses on nutrition with the Sherwoods.
Find comprehensive strategies for prevention and reversal of cancer.
Get discounts on products and supplements.
Even download e-books.
Support the mission of AMP with a subscription for $9.95 per month.
Get the first month for $1 by using promo code AMP888.
Welcome to a new era of Connecting Patriots.
Amp Insider.
Hey everybody, I'm Dana White.
There's a new movie out called The Sound of Freedom, and it's about human trafficking.
More importantly, the trafficking of children.
This is a disgusting, horrific issue that's happening all around the world, and it's not getting better.
It's getting worse.
And what I'm going to do is I'm going to give any of my UFC employees that want to see this movie free tickets to go see.
And I would like to encourage other executives to do the same at their company.
Here's Mel Gibson with some more information on the sound of freedom.
One of the most disturbing problems in our world today is human trafficking, and particularly the trafficking of children.
Now, the first step in eradicating this crime is awareness.
Goes the sound of freedom.
So there it is, Dana White and Mel Gibson.
And guess what?
They were hobnobbing over the weekend at a mega UFC event with Donnie T himself.
Roger Stone also in the mix talking it up.
What do you think, Chris?
I mean, Donald Trump comes in.
He's got a wildly popular round of applause.
I mean, just the place goes through the roof for him.
Mel Gibson in the audience, obviously a UFC fan, gets Dana White to say, not only go see this film, but if you are a CEO, if you do have a company, buy tickets.
This is winning on the next level, in my opinion.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, from a marketing perspective, it's phenomenal.
You know, a lot of people are concerned about what the net effects of this are going to be.
You know, is this some big marketing scam to sell tons of movie tickets?
That's what the media is telling us.
I think it's pretty clear that that's not true.
People are going and enjoying the film because it's a good film and they believe it's an important film.
These are things that the left would cheer for if it was one of their projects.
People are concerned that, I guess, there's some hero cult forming around Jim Caviesel or Tim Ballard.
I don't see that.
I don't think that's happening.
I think people are coming to wake up to what is a real problem in the world.
And I think it's very important that people do that.
You know, I tend to focus all of my thinking and all of my energy when I'm analyzing events on the substance, what the net effects are, and whether or not the understanding of these events as they're being portrayed to us is pushing us toward the awakening or hindering the awakening.
This is something that unequivocally pushes us toward the awakening.
When people realize the scale of this and they do some digging into it after they get home from the film, they're going to understand that people like us aren't out here making this stuff up and lying about it.
You know, people might be overboard in their language.
They might turn some people off.
I understand that it's hard for people to come to terms with this and that some people might overshoot.
But the extent to which people are really looking into this for the first time, I think should inspire everyone to understand that getting out there and spreading the truth matters.
You know, a lot of people have their doubts about the effect of media and television and cinema.
It can be used for good.
All of these things actually can be used for good so long as there are good people behind the projects.
I think that we should focus on creating parallel economies, parallel entertainment industries, parallel everything.
Because when we do that, we're actually able to import the values and make a difference with this kind of stuff.
And I'm really hoping that they're going to be able to make a difference with this documentary series.
We just saw Mel Gibson there, and there was that mega viral clip a few weeks back where Ballard was talking about this new series that has been produced by Mel Gibson that supposedly is going to blow the lid off of all sorts of corruption in the human trafficking arena and in the corruption in Ukraine.
And, you know, I think that we live in an age where you can produce a documentary series and it can become extremely powerful.
There's no reason that this can't be the next Tiger King, but of importance, right?
So how do, yeah, I mean, seriously, that's what we need.
We need more and more of this.
And I see this movie now being on pace to do $200 million because it's not just Dana White.
It's not just Mel Gibson.
It's not just Patrick Bett David.
It's not just Chuck Liddell.
People are now coming out en masse after watching this movie, realizing it's not what the media is portraying it and realizing, hey, if I'm going to be for one thing, maybe it's the protection of children, Chris.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think you're right about that.
It really just is that powerful.
And like I said before, I hope people will go see it because it is the word of mouth and the discussion afterward that will ultimately make the difference, right?
Everybody can go see the film.
They can be entertained.
They can understand it, you know, to the extent that you'll be entertained.
But it's what you do after, you know, it's going down and getting the statistics and sharing the statistics.
It's opening the conversation and not allowing people to silence that conversation.
That is how we make a difference.
And when people realize that we weren't lying about this sort of thing, it leads them to understand that we're not lying about other things.
These problems actually are the most important problems in the world.
You know, the people who call us conspiracy theorists will tell us that these problems don't exist.
And for as long as people are willing to deny them and deny what's staring them right in the face, we won't make that progress.
But once people understand that these things do exist, the idea that we're conspiracy theorists goes right out the window.
And it just becomes a matter of, well, how important is this issue?
Okay, this issue exists.
How important is it?
Well, if we are right about this issue, if we are right about the pandemic, if we are right about stolen elections, these are the most important issues in the world.
Man Jet Setting Trump Team 00:08:21
You know, you can't have a country without borders.
You can't have a country without elections.
You can't have a society if the experts can tell us that they can end our freedoms in a day because there's a threat scary enough that we need to.
And I hope that people are able to use this to break through to the other side of that awakening because on the other side is where all the progress happens.
I certainly hope so as well.
We've got to take another break, but when we get back, I want to talk 2024.
Roger Stone, the dirty trickster himself, jet-setting with Trump.
Is he going to be officially on the team?
What's going on?
That and much more after this.
It is making sense of the madness.
Hey, guys.
Justin here with the Satellite Phone Store.
And today we're going to talk about EcoFlow's solar panel options.
Designed for portable power, these foldable solar panels come with a kickstand case for easy transportation, setup, and protection.
Each panel uses an MC4 universal connector for wider compatibility and makes it super useful for charging a variety of devices.
And if you're interested in making a purchase or you'd like more information, please visit satellitephonestore.com or sat123.com.
We are back.
It's making sense of the madness.
We are joined by Chris Paul and Chris.
Stone is out there posting pictures of jet setting with Trump.
He's obviously traveling with the man and has maintained a very close relationship with him over the years.
Is there a chance that Stone becomes an official member of Team Trump once again?
I mean, hey, man, I don't know the answer to that question, but Roger Stone is an unofficial member no matter what.
So, I mean, does the official title make a difference with a guy like Roger Stone?
I'm not sure.
It's fun to see him out there.
The guy entertains me.
He makes politics fun.
He was just on Lou Dobbs this morning talking about the Kennedy assassination.
So I enjoy seeing what he has to say.
I don't always know how to take him, but.
You know, Roger Stone is really one of those interesting characters, right?
I've met Roger.
I've interviewed Roger.
I've spoken on stage right after Roger Stone.
And, you know, there are certain things to me, like, you know, he's one of the people that's very much a godfather of the modern day lobbying system.
And when you ask him about it, he'll just smile at you.
And he's, I believe money is speech.
We made a lot of money.
Meanwhile, to me, the modern day lobbying system is another one of those obstacles to free and fair elections where real lobbying should be of and for the people and not the person or the entity that has the largest bank account.
But he is extremely savvy.
Obviously, there have been people like Roger Stone, even Bannon, who was officially part of the team and really, I would say, a driving force behind the Trump movement, even until this day.
Does he bring anybody back?
Does he bring a Bannon back in?
I mean, if anybody comes back in, it should be Flynn, right?
I mean, I would be more than happy to see Michael Flynn brought back in.
I think everybody who listens to my show or who watches Badlands knows that I am a big Steve Bannon fan.
So I would love to see that too.
But the truth is, Steve Bannon is incredibly effective doing what he's doing right now.
And I feel like Steve Bannon is an unofficial member of the campaign already and always has been.
Steve Bannon seems to me like the, you know, kind of the philosophical leader of MAGA and the narrative leader of MAGA.
And he's been pushing that forward now for over a decade, you know, if you trace back to the Tea Party.
So, gosh, man, I would love to see it.
It has that 2016 energy.
I think a lot of people can feel that forming.
People talk about it online.
I wasn't even a Trump supporter in 2016.
So I'm happy to be playing from this position.
I know that they were probably bigger underdogs back then, although who knows?
Now everybody understands that our elections are rigged and stolen.
So I guess that kind of presents a different sort of underdog scenario.
But bring back the 2016 team minus the people we've seen have obviously been turncoats.
And let's play those cards.
Well, I would say that the 2016 scene that he was kind of forced to get rid of, right?
It was the people that maintained and stayed for a long time or that were interchangeable, you know, Mattis, Bolton, Pompeo, Barr, that, in my opinion, obviously did the guy no favors.
And Flynn, as a secretary of defense, bringing in somebody fresh like Kerry Lake, who's been Team Trump as a vice president.
I think that's all well and good.
You know, I'm still skeptical the guy can get the nomination in 2024 with all of these cases against him.
I know a lot of people think that he's going to beat these cases.
I think the New York one is obviously a sham.
And although I don't think there's any teeth to the documents espionage case, I think they're going to convict him.
And I think that that's going to be the way they portray it.
And I don't know whether he gets the primary nomination.
Is there any salvation in anybody else?
Is there any salvation in Iran DeSantis?
I would argue if Rand Paul throws his hat into the mix, I could maybe get behind him.
But there really isn't much hope in the Republican Party otherwise, in my opinion.
Well, I mean, I think anybody who challenges Donald Trump from the Republican side right now is announcing themselves as a traitor to the country, to be perfectly honest.
I think Ron DeSantis has destroyed his political career.
And I think deservedly so, unless this is some sort of, you know, fake out.
And a lot of people think this, and I think that there's at least some reason to believe it's possible.
You know, maybe they drafted Ron DeSantis to do all this, to bring all the rhinos out in the donor class and in the media class.
And if that's the case, then they've done it spectacularly well.
And the op has been executed beautifully.
I'm not sure that's the case, though.
Donald Trump won in 2020.
Anybody stepping up to attempt to replace him as the nominee in 2024 is then complicit in the cover-up of stolen elections and the usurpation of the American presidency and thereby our country.
So no, I don't think that there is anyone who can challenge him.
I don't think anyone has a realistic chance to win.
I'm not sure that the process will even be legitimate at all and therefore wouldn't matter.
So no, nobody is going to be replacing Donald Trump.
And if anybody did or attempted to do so, I think that when this is finally resolved, there will be absolutely no amnesty for those people.
Chris, let the audience know where they can find your stuff and what you got going on over at Badlands this week.
Yeah, we'll be doing The Watchmen, the movie The Watchmen, on Badlands Story Hour tomorrow night.
You can find all of my stuff at linktree.com slash I'm your moderator and I'm your moderator.substack.com.
Only the director's cut, man.
The director's cut is money.
Whole Blow Up 00:01:18
I'm a big fan of that.
In fact, that might be the best comic book film followed by Sin City of all time.
And nobody talks about those.
Chris, thank you so much for joining us.
This is Making Sense of The Madness.
I am Jason Burmes.
This is amp news, where we're not afraid to take on the mainstream media and tell the truth no matter what.
See you on the flip side.
What should people
know about that whole blow up with Project Veritas?
I read a few people wrong, and that's my fault, but I learned from that, and I think I'll be a more effective messenger as a result of that.
That'll free me up to do the next chapter, the next stage of my evolution, which is OMG, which is decentralizing journalism.
And sometimes things happen for a reason.
That's my goal, that's my mission.
And I didn't ask for that mission.
I never thought that would be my mission.
It just has become my mission.
Export Selection