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Hey, everybody, Jason Burmese and buckle the truck up because we got a killer premium for you.
My man here, he's a workhorse.
He does it big and been doing it big for a very, very long time.
He puts a fun spin on it.
He's a New York guy, which you guys know I flip and love.
Hey, over there.
Hey, hey, I'm walking here.
Jesus.
Anyway, I love it all.
I mean, you do it, what, five, six nights a week, don't you, brother?
Sometimes it's six nights.
I do one Saturday special a month, but yeah, it's Monday through Friday, 7 to 9 p.m.
And yeah, it's just, I think it's one of those things I'm unconscious the whole time.
So the weeks go by.
I know that the work gets done, but it's a, it's a, it's like I'm driven by something.
I just love the whole, the whole experience of the, of the talk itself.
And not only the talk, you're super interactive with your audience.
By the way, it's not the political orgy show.
If everybody doesn't know, now you do, you want to go over to, quite frankly, dot TV or you can follow him at Political Orgy on Twitter.
Like I said, five days a week's a lot.
Six days a week is more.
But the interaction with the audience is priceless because that's not only, I think, how you build an audience, which is somewhat important if you want to get your message out, but you have a conversation.
You have a conversation about what's going on.
You can step back and go, you know, maybe I was wrong about this last week.
And that's okay.
I say that constantly.
Got that one wrong.
Not a big deal.
If you're coming at it from an honest viewpoint and you actually want somebody else's perspective and you say, hey, you know, that's interesting.
I'm going to look at that.
You end up covering it.
That's a positive thing, Frank.
Oh, listen, Jason.
First of all, thank you for the very complimentary assessment of my work.
I mean, as you know, you've been on my show many times, but prior to that relationship being, you know, striking that relationship up, we were big time fans of your stuff since the inception of YouTube.
I mean, we were finding loose change and everything on Ebom's world.
And I mean, before that, so it was, it's been really great just rubbing shoulders with you and getting to know you.
But yeah, it's even bigger than that.
The human condition is a very important thing for me to jump into.
So the concept of talk radio of the past, how it needs, I want to be able to refit it for where we're going right now and what we have available.
It's very hard to break into terrestrial radio business these days.
And there's so many restrictions, what you can do, time restrictions, what you can talk about.
So the internet is ripe for that.
And yeah, on a political sense, on a government political, socio-political sense, we can talk on a range of issues.
On Monday, I think it was Monday or Tuesday, the range I asked people about the indictments.
What do you think is going on?
Where do you think this is heading?
Do you think that Trump really has it in him when he declared that this is the final battle and that we need to, that this is it?
I will take down the deep state.
And I ask the question, do you think, I do believe that we are in several phases of the final battle, but do you think that Trump can actually inflict a poison dart into the neck of this thing to start the collapse?
You can't dismantle this in four years, no matter what.
Do you think it's even possible?
The range of opinions were amazing.
And you just step back and you just see what comes out of people.
And it does so much for the psyche to see where that there's not uniformity anywhere.
And it actually helps steal sharpen steel.
I really enjoy that.
Then, you know, two nights later, we're asking the question, do you believe that heaven has locality?
Is heaven an actual physical place?
Are we talking about dimensions?
Are we talking about the state of mind?
You know, whatever the hell it is.
I think those are just the wonderful mix that we need to be having today because there's real world issues, but a lot of our issues are off-world, too.
Well, here's the deal, man.
I always say this to people.
Bottom line, what drives me for everything outside of just the political arena or even my family arena, social arena is I want to know the secrets of the universe.
Like, isn't that what drives humankind all the way and has from its inception?
I want to know the secrets of the universe.
And to me, you know, those secrets are the ultimate truth and truth is the ultimate love and empowerment, if you allow it to be, right?
At the same time, I'm super cynical and real at this point because I've been doing this for so damn long and I see now people breaking in a lot of cases.
Like they're covering it so much and they're just, they feel helpless, right, Frank?
So let's talk about the indictments just really quickly and the question that you posed.
The bigger question to me, and I don't think is being asked enough in the alternative media, is why don't you think they're going to throw his fucking ass in prison?
I've been calling this since literally after they certified the election on January 6th and started calling everybody an insurrection.
I'm like, they're really going to arrest him, guys.
Like, they're really going to do it this time.
Everybody scoffed at me and are like, oh, come on, Jace.
They're really not going to go that far.
I go, they might put him in jail.
When people are asking about 2024 from 2020 to 22, I'm like, they're trying to put that motherfucker in jail.
It was like the first question I had for Roger Stone when I had him on about, I think, nine months ago.
And here's the difference this time.
All right.
He had his shot at the title.
He could not have been in a better position to do everything he said the first time.
Now, the sea creatures, the monsters, the swamp-ass motherfuckers like John Bolton, Mattis hasn't come out to fucking chirp yet.
He will, I promise.
Barr, Pompeo, all these people he put in prominent positions that were supposed to have his back now are stabbing him in the front.
Now they were stabbing him in the back from the beginning because, again, you look at his position, forget about the Hunter Biden laptop and how long the Bar Justice Department had that there.
They had the Wiener laptop.
Lock her up.
Lock her up.
And that had real deal, legit prison time shit for all those people.
100%.
Don't fool yourself.
Of course they did.
So the cover-up crew comes in.
And then the man wins in a landslide.
Probably the biggest W ever in 2024, just so everybody knows.
I mean, he got more votes than the first time.
People actually registered.
2020.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, he got 10 more, what, 10 million more votes than 2020.
Or I'm sorry, 2016 in 2020.
So he does that.
And he still doesn't win against the zombie puppet that can't draw 200 fucking people in an event that didn't have to campaign, right?
Like, again, they gaslight us.
And it's at a period that they got us by the balls for the first time globally.
Everybody is tasting a little bit of the boot licking and the fascism and the dictates and the authoritarian.
Can't get away from it.
Listen, you say, I'm right there with you.
I've had a couple of people, a couple of people say, yeah, but Frank, don't you think it's, don't you think it's kind of convenient that every time that, you know, when Alvin Bragg announces an indictment, his popularity goes up and he starts widening the gap between him and DeSantis and all this.
I was like, okay, what are you trying to get at?
A, yeah, he has shown to be anti-fragile the entire time that he's been in the political sphere.
Whatever the hell they throw at him, people at this point, he's become a wonderful Streisan effect lightning rod for everybody who never was really wanting to put the time into picking through the machinations of the media.
That is the larger, the media, which is the appendage of the national security state, and how it is really just a brainwashing operation.
It has been amazing to watch everything that they try.
How every time, who else do you know can get bumps in approval ratings when they get impeached?
Who else do you know who can get a bump in approval rating when they recover from a virus?
You know, it's impeached twice.
Impeached twice.
Twice.
Twice.
The Russia thing was so incredible that all throughout it, all throughout it, it was again, you say, well, are they trying to create the Pied?
No, no, the Pied Piper candidacy thing was in 2016 where they thought that he'd be the easiest one to beat.
So when I say, when I hear people say, well, I think that all these indictments are really about making him the Pied Piper again, I said, no, they want him in jail.
In fact, this is more than that now, because at 76 years old, a five-year sentence out of the 500 that they can get maximum for all the shit that they just threw at him could be a death sentence.
At 76 years old, who knows what five years can bring you.
So, I mean, it's very real, regardless of what you think about Donald Trump as a politician, about his, you know, his ability to lead, his ability to execute these gigantic, these grandiose ideas.
It doesn't matter.
Objectively, he is enough of a threat to the Apple cart that they want him not only in jail, but destroyed here.
That's the thing.
So, and I think we're in a different ballgame this time, right?
Like, the Russia stuff, it was so apparent that wasn't real.
I mean, the GRU paper, I think the last time that we talked, we went over the entire network of MAGA 3X, Microchip, Makani, Mackie, and how they were the real Russian trolls.
Did we do that, Frank?
Does that go over that case?
I don't know.
I don't think we have.
Oh, man.
All right.
So just so you understand who the real Russians were, even BuzzFeed admitted it, of all people.
So back in like 2017, never mind the Russians, meet the bot king who helps Trump win Twitter.
So if you look at this, this is all about Microchip, and we'll get to the significance in a minute, but we'll just type in, let's get hysteria.
That'll bring us to a nice place.
Yeah, there it is right here.
So indeed, in a national atmosphere charged by unproven accusations about a massive network of Russian social media influence, the story of how Microchip helped build the most notorious pro-Trump Twitter network seems almost mundane.
Less a technologically daunting intelligence operation than a clever patchworking of tools nearly any computer literate person could manage.
It also suggests that some of the current Russian Trump bot hysteria may well be a hysteria.
It's not, it's all us.
It's all us, not the Russians, Microchip said, and we're not going to stop.
Now, Microchip, just so you know, claimed and was probably correct in with other trolls, James Brower and Defango, that they created the original QAnon out of DEF CON.
Okay.
And later on, Microchip would kind of take control of it and obviously hand it off to what would become what?
Started 4chan, went to 8-chan, and then kind of the Watkins's got a hold of it after that, after it went to 8-kun.
Yeah.
You look at all that, then you look at the Douglas Mackey case.
That's why we're going to bring up Microchip in a minute.
The Douglas Mackey case is the famous meme case where they tricked everybody into believing that they just gave Douglas Mackey a 10-year prison sentence because he posted a meme.
It's not what happened.
Douglas Mackey, aka Ricky Vaughn, was in the network with Microchip.
So they had a huge bot network.
They were committing massive fraud behind the scenes by impersonating people and having SOC accounts.
But even with the, and they were also very effective.
And they also connected in with MAGA 3X and influencers like Cernovich and Stone and others.
And I think Pesobic was in there.
So they were very, very effective.
Pesobic eventually is the one that outs Microchip and the gang as QAnon, or at least the originators of it in a OAN piece, by the way.
So when they give, I've done videos on all this.
You can watch all these videos.
So Mackey, okay, again, Ricky Vaughn, who just got the 10-year sentence, the kind of fraud they were doing is actually they spoofed that phone number that was on the meme.
So even though they couldn't prove nobody text, that nobody voted that texted it, when it texted or you called it, it had a response.
It had an automated response and they gave it to him.
Now, here's where it gets even.
Wait, wait, wait, Jason, so but his court case that was about the hey, that was a that was centered on that one meme about it's what because that's all the reporting is.
I know, but it's not true, bro.
Listen, that's where microchip comes in.
So let's just show you this.
That's what I'm trying to say.
That the alternative media got it wrong as well.
Testifies in Mackey case.
I'm so glad we're having this conversation that we haven't.
Okay.
So this is unprecedented, bro.
You're going to be like, holy shit, I can't believe this happened.
Microchip, when he was coming out in 2000, I interviewed Defango and who was Dreamcatcher, who was Brower.
Okay.
And they're big-time trolls.
They all get off on it.
They say they did it.
They say they didn't do it.
They show screenshots.
They say they're real.
They say they're not.
In 2019, in January, I interviewed them.
I tried to get quote-unquote Microchip on as well, right?
Microchip didn't come on, but by then he was already working with the FBI.
So he is working with the FBI, that guy who was in that BuzzFeed article that said that they were the effective Trump network and started QAnon.
And then they charge him in 2021.
But you don't know what they charge him with because they let him testify.
Okay, take a look at this.
They let him testify in this case under the guise of Microchip and never ever told what his real name was or what his career was.
Mackey had never met him in person and did not know who he was.
They never even video chatted.
So this is the first time he's seeing him.
So now they have an anonymous guy talking about this network that they flipped.
That's Mackie.
Some people think that Microchip was multiple people as well, and possible Justin McConney, who was in this network.
But let me explain what really happened here.
They wanted to take down the actual bot network that was successful for Trump, that was private, and a bunch of Americans and trolls.
Anonymous Bot Revelations00:14:49
And they had to do that while saying it was Russia.
So right now, they're still going after more people, and they're going to use Microchip again.
Okay.
This is incredible.
I mean, it's almost slightly confusing only because I'm hearing all of it for the first time.
And the cover story, the headline on it all, is totally unrelated.
It's only a part of it, man.
They had Microchip flip, and it was his testimony that they started and encouraged the Pizzagate conspiracy theory and that they manipulated the election on purpose that they actually got him.
And there's more investigations to come.
And again, now they're using a witness that their shield.
Remember when you were supposed to be able to face your accusers, bro, in this country?
Not anymore.
Not in this network.
Apparently.
Yeah, so they're putting the fear of God into everybody in that network.
Now, here's the real question.
If they flipped Microchip, obviously it doesn't look like they flipped Mackie, right?
Because they just charged him out and outright had the trial.
Who else did they flip in that network in the alternative media with threats?
They flipped him in 2018, and then they still charged him three years later after he was working with them.
So that just shows you that, you know, again, the FBI at the upper echelons is really the management network for the cover-up crew.
They know it wasn't Russians.
They know that GRU paper was bullshit.
And they know this is the network.
And they've taken it out behind the scenes and told you it was about a meme, Frank.
See, well, that doesn't surprise me only because when you know the story of Carter Page, it's pretty much the same thing.
I mean, he was working for the intelligence services as early as March of 2016.
And then by six, seven months later, they were completely covering up the fact that he was an intelligence asset, an anti-Russian intelligence asset for the United States in order to pin him as some kind of a mole in the Trump campaign and to be able to spy on that campaign.
So as far as the old departed way of thinking where you say, okay, well, I mean, how many gangsters out there are actually working with the feds to be able to keep their racket up and to make sure that they're able to keep the system plugged into the underworld and all that stuff?
There's no allegiances anywhere anymore.
Not even among these criminals that you think they're going to set up shop for a while.
I can't imagine.
Can't imagine what kind of threats would be made to say, hey, work with us and you'll be okay.
And three months later, you get charged anyway.
Yeah, but you know, he's not in prison and he's on the traveling road show.
And supposedly he worked in tech.
And here's the other thing.
The charging was just a that was just a surface level shock to the media?
No, I get, well, I think that what they're doing, again, is they're trying, first of all, they didn't like how effective these guys were, how they were able to make things viral almost on a daily basis, if not a daily basis.
They were able to control the narrative.
And basically, the guy, Microchip, testified that he hated Hillary Clinton so he didn't even like Trump.
He hated Hillary Clinton so much that he was going to do anything to make sure she wasn't elected.
So they pose that as what?
Election interference by bad actors, even though they're in this nation state.
But then you do do really sketchy things because you are committing fraud in the sense that you're creating false personas online.
You're interacting with other people in bad faith.
Now, couple that with getting phone numbers and spoofing things, using bot networks for automated responses, etc.
You know, they're going to come after you one way or another.
And then who knows what other shady bullshit you're up to because you're that kind of guy.
Like none of these, first of all, I want to say this.
None of those guys are good dudes.
Everybody I mentioned, again, I don't, a lot of people, I had never known this term, but during this period is when I became familiar with the term LARPing, live action role play and shit posting, right?
Just throw it at the wall and post whatever.
That's lying.
Okay.
Lies don't make friends.
They don't help arguments.
They're not in good faith.
And these guys were the type of guys that just wanted attention and just to see what they could do.
You know what I mean?
Period.
So you don't know what other illegal activity they're up to.
And again, since we don't know who this person is and we don't know the charges against him, right?
Or what he was even convicted of.
It's very hard to ascertain where else this goes.
But I do know how the media and even the alternative media presented the Mackey case and didn't go into the rabbit hole that these are the guys that even before QAnon, okay, were the guys that promoted Pizzagate and blew that up and Adrenachrome and blew that up.
So here's the deal.
Like, obviously, there was a lot of legitimate things with Pedogate.
I talk about it all the time, especially the Podesta email.
But these are the guys that would help Adrenochrome memes go fucking viral.
You know what I'm saying?
So let me ask you about this.
Because now I'm in a purely, I'm asking things from an academic sense now because this is all blowing my mind.
When you have this, when you have the uncovering of a real bot network that is starting to gain traction with people on the internet, which is where most of the moving and the shaking with, you know, with opinions really and opinions that lead to action really is out there.
Since 2014 or so is when I started seeing the first publishings of the real effect of search engine manipulation effect, where in certain targeted demographics, just based on what the hell is going to pop up in a search engine when you search a term or ask a question, you can switch or sway the voting practices of a target demographic, sometimes up to 60%.
So, I mean, I know how important the internet is.
Now, from an ethical standpoint, legal standpoint, what do you think about this?
Is this something that really needed, regardless of who is in control of a bot swarming network or whatever, and what they're pushing and who they're just trolling and having a good time?
Do you still believe that that falls under the umbrella of free speech?
Or is this a criminal activity that has to be taken under advisement for election interference?
I say this: up until the moment you break an actual law.
So, first of all, let me say this again.
So, was a law broken, do you believe?
I'm going to get there in a second.
Because I want to say this.
Obviously, the military-industrial complex and the intelligence agencies openly partake in this.
You and I have discussed the secret undercover military, the program called signature reduction.
And remember, these people are online and in real life in household companies, Trojan horse civilian systems, and on the ground.
Okay.
So these exist.
And the government should not have a monopoly on these at all because not only are they able to promote these ideas, they are protected from any prosecution.
That's one.
Two, anonymity on the internet is important unless you are on a platform that specifically says that you cannot act in bad faith and you have to be who you are, et cetera.
And there's some kind of legal repercussion for that.
There is no law to break.
And there certainly isn't one on Twitter where there are bots operating everywhere.
Okay.
I don't want the bots to go away or the anonymity to go away.
But like, I'll give you an example where it is just absolutely ridiculous, and they have their army.
So, as you may know, Frank, it came out yesterday that there are now more allegations on Conor McGregor being a brutal, serial, violent rapist, allegedly beat and tried to anally rape a young lady at the finals game where he concussed the mascot earlier.
I don't know if you've seen this yet.
Oh, oh, yeah, it's out there now.
So, as you know, Frank, we've talked about it on my show many times.
I've been talking about this for four years.
This guy's dangerous.
He's not going to stop.
He's a brutal, violent serial rapist.
We need to stop him.
So, the story broke yesterday while I was at the dentist, and all of a sudden, my Twitter started blowing up.
Okay.
By the time I got home to post my first, hey, he's a brutal, violent serial rapist, Connor McGregor blocked me for the first time.
So, people were, you know, who Ryan Long and Danny Polish Chuck are.
They're out there.
Yeah.
So, I had just been on Daily Polish Chuck's low-value mail three weeks before, and I made sure at the end to blast McGregor to tell people how the world really worked.
So, Polish Chuck put out the video just of me calling him out three weeks ago when this came out yesterday.
He blocks me.
This is the anonymous loser troll army.
And I want to show you the things right here: brain-dead cunt.
Stop spreading dissent through coercive speech.
You know, allegations are allegations.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Stop trying to use mobbing techniques against political opponents.
This is for McGregor, by the way.
I'm looking at the text, just the way that this is all, this text is, it swarms and all that stuff.
This is just the internet.
This is most of the internet.
Regardless of who is trying to push what and to what purpose the bots have been programmed and to respond to one thing or another, this is just what is going on.
I feel like 85 to 90% of the interactions I have on Twitter are not human anyway.
So that's why I'm wondering, you know, where's the line between this needs to be stopped and who is going to be selectively charged for this?
Well, when I say you break the law, man, I mean that like you do what Microchip and them did.
You took out a phone number, you put something out, you had a response as though it was real, and you had, you know, had an automated response.
Now, I don't know if that really counts as election interference.
Certainly some type of fraud, right?
I mean, you can't do that.
Like, that's like saying, hey, I opened up a business, call up this business, give up your information, and we'll take care of it.
Right.
And that's, you know, it's almost like wire fraud, which he may have been committing, which, again, I don't know exactly what the charges were.
But now that it's been manipulated to speech, and even with the Trump indictments, you know, you can't forget the irony.
They're charging him with the Espionage Act, okay?
When his Justice Department charged Assange with the Espionage Act.
It's like, does that irony fall on nobody?
He had the opportunity.
He loved the WikiLeaks.
He sent Dana Rohrebacher over there.
He wanted Assange to cut the deal where he was going to come over here and tell him that Seth Rich was the source of those documents, not the Russians.
He refused to give up his sources, so he let him burn.
Well, Donnie T, you should have stood up for him because guess what?
By not standing up for him, you've opened the door for yourself to be charged with that.
And honestly, now his case is just as important as Assange's case, because if either are prosecuted successfully under the Espionage Act, we fall further into first world dictatorship status.
And that's the type of status that you see around World War I and World War II.
When you see political leaders being jailed in the first world countries that have the largest armies, that's where you see, I would say, real disruption and real global conflict, Frank.
Yeah.
Well, especially since you need to call in all your bannermen to actually make this seem legitimate, you know, for all of the talk about bots and automated internet activity that is designed to influence people's thoughts and all that other stuff.
And again, that's totally outside the bounds of creating a ruse to collect data on people or to give, you know, promise something that is not there, actual fraud.
I mean, if you make a meme that goes viral and you like making certain types of memes and you have political opinions that you want to express, then go right ahead.
If you're effective at doing that, go ahead.
And in that respect, there's probably somebody out there who will pay you a lot of money to develop memes for them.
And that is fine too.
But as far as what you're talking about here, for the resources that have to be marshaled to do what they're doing right now to Trump, and Trump is really, I've said it from the beginning, when you talk about the kind of war that has been waged against him and by proxy against us, Trump is, you can copy and paste anybody into his position and they would just customize the attack for the person.
This is a much bigger revelation as what is being done right now.
And the resources that have been marshaled to do this on the back end with law enforcement, you brought up the laptops before, the Hunter laptop.
I mean, how many times is it going to be referenced that you had dozens of intelligence officials and past leaders and CIA and this and that come out and lie prior to the election, saying that this is all from Russia.
Every last one of those people should be in jail right now.
The media that willingly put it out there, they knew what they were doing.
Greer: Grifter or Believer?00:09:51
Jake Tapper going and screeching about how we're not going to show Donald, make this into a spectacle, Donald Trump, after he is arraigned the other day.
Please cut it off.
We want to see him having a good time at a Cuban restaurant somewhere.
When this is a guy who was James Clapper's direct link, the first person who was given the green light by the White House in January of 2017 to start talking about the dossier.
And two weeks prior to Trump getting arraigned, two or three weeks, Jake Tapper's out there after the Durham report comes out.
Yes, it didn't have a resolution that we all wanted.
But as far as what was revealed in the Durham report, Jake Tapper actually had to say to his audience, whatever's left of it, that the report is very damaging to the FBI and in many ways, if not totally, exonerates Donald Trump.
Well, that means that Donald Trump has been exonerated from a con that he was intimately involved in pushing from the beginning.
And now here they are again, doing it all over again.
And they want us to be indignant about Donald Trump having a nice day at a Cuban restaurant.
It never stops.
So you talk about, you talk about people who are out there defrauding the country, defrauding information seekers, defrauding this and that.
This is the bread and butter of mainstream media, the national security state.
They don't exist if they are not defrauding people and lying to them and misrepresenting the world events and actually making them up as they go along.
I mean, this is, you want to talk about self-fulfilling prophecies.
They are a self-fulfilling prophecy machine.
They speak this stuff into existence.
So as much as I still have the ability to be shocked, as you have shocked me today about the things that we know and are not told, it still is just, it's just, it's par for the chorus.
It's always selective enforcement.
And that in itself is a way to manipulate people mentally when you're able to build up that cognitive dissonance where people don't see the irony in someone being taken down for things that the accusers are guilty of themselves.
It really just creates a chaotic mental state for anybody who engages with it.
That's why I know I never, never give anybody any hard time for wanting to step away from the news for a couple of weeks and just go decompress on a beach somewhere.
If there's a beach near you, you know, that's enough, man.
You don't always need a beach.
You can go out into the woods.
I'm pretty simple.
Just go like water parking in a nice little resort town and hang out there during the day, do a little mini golf thing.
I think there is time for that.
That's absolutely important.
You can do like Incubus always tells us, well, we're counting UFOs.
We're counting UFOs.
Incubus is on tour, bro.
You going?
You know, I haven't seen them live and I'm thinking about it.
You know, Incubus is one of those things where as time went on, I actually started really appreciating the vibe because I'm a lot more on the heavy side of things that I really enjoyed back then.
But on the UFO, and you want to talk about crazy timing and everything else, with all this going on, election buildup, the latest attempt, not only on Trump's career, but on Trump's life, because now we're talking about death sentence level stacks of accusations and indictments.
That's what they're going for.
If they can get that, they'd love it.
What do you think about all of this stuff?
The whistleblowers, Dr. Stephen Greer coming out, 2.0, serious disclosure, the Grush guy coming out with his, the Grush guy coming out with his Bob Lazar level technological origin whistleblowing declarations.
I'd love to hear what you're saying because I've been out of the loop.
All righty, let's talk about it.
We're going UFO style.
First of all, the latest whistleblower, aside from Greer, that got all the public attention for saying entities and yappa-tappa-tappa, no first-hand knowledge whatsoever.
Let's start there.
Everything he said was told to him by somebody else, somebody within the government had their little story.
Now, at the same time, he's working on the UAP program, the same one with Alizondo, who I don't trust, who's all over TV and the history channel that has primed you for ancient aliens.
And Skinwalker Ranch with another ex-CIA guy.
Everybody's totally trustable.
Sure.
Anyway, so he's even going out and saying, aliens have killed people.
They've killed people.
We have the evidence.
We've got the craft.
We've got the aliens killing people.
We have the whole shab diddly angle.
Okay.
Now, I watched the very first disclosure thing pre-9-11.
Much more of a believer back then.
A young Jason Burmes, 2000, fresh 21, just legally drinking, barely bushytailed.
Yeah, barely any facial hair, baby-faced and ready to go.
Amazed.
You know, I'd read the Majestic 12 documents at that point, just about anything I could get my hands on on the internet.
I was a true believer.
I want to make that very, very clear.
Fast forward to now, after seeing Greer's documentaries, watching things like Mirage Men, reading more documents, reading Annie Jacobson, et cetera.
I am extremely, to this day, unconvinced of any type of interdimensional, extraterrestrial, or outer space aliens.
All right.
Now, are they possible?
Fuck yeah.
Especially, I'd give more resonance and reason to possibly like interdimensional and not outer space.
And I'll get to that in a minute.
I saw the latest whistleblower who claims to be in the Arctic and claims to have been at this huge facility talking about directed energy weapons.
I interviewed him in 2021, by the way.
I knew he was familiar.
And I said, get out of here.
I went and I dug out.
No, we'll get there.
He's an interesting guy.
And honestly, I think he's extremely credible.
Now, why do I think he's extremely credible?
Not only the diagrams, but the fact that he worked in the energy industry, could lay the place out, seem very confident, eye contact, nothing blew alarm bells.
But I also think he's around some people and he saw some things that are really beyond his scope and been led into this idea of aliens, right?
He talks about quickly in that briefing, Gary McKinnon and him hacking and that publication of the off-world people.
As far as I know, off-world could mean a lot of things.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't necessarily, I don't think, you know, I'm not saying that we haven't been to the moon or even farther, but I am saying there's no way we got there with rocket technology.
We got there with a different type of propulsion system, a different type of technology.
You know, in that quick briefing, he talks about what he sees as a green directed energy weapon or communications device.
You know, I think that's bare minimum.
He also talks about sonic resonance and magnetic resonance and basically earthquakes and all these seismic activity.
I think that's also spot on, by the way.
All those different things.
So I think he's real.
I think that Greer is a grifter that brings in real things like that, directs it to the alien stuff.
Whether he believes it or not, I don't know.
I can't tell.
But I would like to put people back to that first big documentary he did with the baby alien possible thing, right?
Look at his relationship with his bodyguard, his bodyguard.
Just go back and watch that.
Watch the eye contact.
Watch the human interaction.
Why am I even bringing that up?
Because I believe that Stephen Greer is a closeted homosexual.
I think that he has been, he's got a family, daughters, all the whole thing.
I think he's been compromised.
He's a guy that met with the Rockefellers back in the day, was very into the Clintons.
When he made that documentary, it also started with talks of 9-11 being a false flag and even talked about the Bohemian Grove and the occult practices there.
Those are things I've been talking about for years, and now they're associated with aliens.
And a lot more people are going to see that and remember that, especially with the way the culture has gone.
He started off talking about that?
Go watch the intro to the movie.
For what year?
It's 2017, I think, when they put out Unknown or something like that.
It was the first time.
Unacknowledged.
Unacknowledged.
That's it.
I've seen that.
Go watch the beginning again because it's also voiced by, who is it?
Nikki Rourke, I believe, voiced that over.
So, yeah, he starts with that.
Now, he had been confronted about 9-11 truth almost a decade before that, somewhere in the 2008 to 2010 range, and been caught off guard.
You know, false flag wasn't a big term back then.
And you can watch that video.
I think it's with a guy named Jonathan Elenoff from back in the day.
So, go watch that.
He doesn't have the same opinion then as he does now.
And I'm just saying this: he talks about psychic connections and UFO parties to watch them and all these other things.
CE5, yeah.
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Yeah.
You look at who got in with the To the Stars Academy, for instance, with Tom DeLong.
You got all these ex-spooks, ex-NASA guys that obviously know more than they're saying or can say.
So, I don't think a lot of these guys are acting in good faith or have first-hand knowledge.
I think that so much of our technology that's human-based has been suppressed post-World War II.
We were already in the process as World War II was going on for different types of not only energy and propulsion systems, but biological warfare as well.
Think about what is it, Unit 701 or 731 from Japan and their biological warfare program outside of the Nazis, right?
And it doesn't surprise me that that base is out in the Arctic.
Again, go back to World War II.
It was after World War II.
They just put the kibosh on everybody going out there.
It was militarized highly.
The Nazis had already militarized the Poles somewhat.
There were all these different submarine systems.
And I believe that we have technology that air to land, land-to-air, nothing to do with rockets.
I think we're utilizing rocket technology right now to weaponize space and put up the Muskernuts' network.
And the Muskernuts' network isn't his network.
It's a network that's being utilized in Ukraine right now, still not only for communications, but drone warfare.
You can now start to see some of the drones that are being controlled on a regular basis, Frank.
That is still the biggest thing.
When it comes to Ukraine, I understand I've had you on, I don't know, that was probably the middle of last year when we did the big Elon Musk dive.
And I was asking everybody where does he stand on the character arc diagram there.
And so we've known that as far as war support, I mean, there's so much about the star link that's going on and how many dual use that it would provide.
I don't think that anybody, well, anybody who pays attention to anything in the world thinks that this is really just about faster Instagram upload speeds.
But, you know, I think I think about that and I really get my daily updates on what the hell is going on out there in Ukraine.
And it is so, it's a, it's such a lost cause.
I just don't get what the purpose of this is.
Like, what are they testing?
What's the end result going to be?
And then what is going to be exported to the rest of the world?
I know that there's a lot of the DIA app and things like that that are being tested by the Victoria Newland and Samantha Powers of the world.
And Musk is definitely playing his role in whatever is going to become the everything app and whatever.
But it's the perpetual state of war, especially ones that could explode into something so much more far-encompassing.
They still have these NATO, these people that are pushing Ukraine's inclusion into NATO, which is essentially a vote for world war.
And it's all tied in together.
Just don't, I just don't get it at this point because you can't really, you can't believe that they really intend to bring us to a point of complete annihilation.
If they're going to destroy us, you think that they would pick us apart, demo us, bring us down to the studs systematically so they don't kill themselves as well.
Listen, I'll say this, man.
If you think about it, when was the last time even a big-time predator-class puppet nation-state leader of a first world nation was drugged into the streets and killed?
Right?
Mussolini.
Mussolini is all I can think of.
You know, I mean, World War II style.
I mean, you got second and third world dictators and leaders.
Yeah, but I'm talking first world, European, Anglo-American.
We're the ones suited.
We're the social Darwinists.
You know, we rule because we should manifest destiny, folks, right?
The original fascist.
He's the last dude.
And, you know, we could talk about whether Hitler made it out or not.
It's like almost a moot point.
There hasn't been a population that's been westernized and first world style that has rose up against their leaders in that fashion in 70 plus years.
And when there was a whiff of it, a hint of it in this country, they put DC behind bars.
They fenced it right up and said, no, not even close.
They brought out the banana republic dictator-style precursor to what we're seeing.
So I'll say this: they lost one big one.
I think there is some sense that maybe they could lose one big one, but I think they'd be willing to sacrifice a couple big ones.
You know, Mussolini may have been in the prime, but like a Joey B gets taken out.
I mean, he's it's over.
They want him out anyway.
You know, I mean, he might have one more job.
So I don't think it's off the table.
And, you know, listen, I don't want to live through a nuclear war or a third world war.
I don't think everybody dies.
I don't think you kill all 8 billion people.
But, you know, do billions of people die in a short period of time for the very first time in history with a World War III.
Hard to imagine that not being the scenario.
And then you ask yourself, how many oligarchs really get killed that are making that decision?
And how many really care that much?
I mean, when we're talking about, you know, Area 51 in reality, that's where they got to test a lot of the nuclear stuff.
All right.
And obviously, we're epochs down the line on that.
They know what the real effect is.
They, you know, when I say they, you got to remember, it's not just somebody with a clearance.
Somebody owns Lockheed Martin.
Somebody, it's not just a board of directors.
You know, there's also an intelligence head, and then there's the main investor.
You know, they know what's going on.
They have an idea.
They know when those strikes are going to happen.
We know they have the underground cities and bases.
I'm just saying, man, they've got these 2025 and 2030 agendas.
They got these CBDC agendas.
They've got these 15-minute city agendas.
And ain't no party like a nuclear party to scare the motherfuck out of the whole population and take out a million, 10 million.
Scary to think of 10 or 2 to 5 billion.
But again, these guys put out scary numbers sometimes, Frank.
I don't want to live through it.
But again, to say it's off the table all the way, I don't know, brother.
Let me ask you this.
Do you think that there's actually 8 billion people on the planet?
That's a great question.
I'm sure there's a few million, no doubt.
I mean, we have, we haven't even been replacing, the first world has not been replacing itself population-wise for a long time at this point.
And they keep talking about how, you know, the migrant crises, we're bringing people into, you know, very important.
We need the jobs and all that stuff.
Keep things working, assimilation, all that.
But has the third world been reproducing more than they ever have before?
You know, China for a while had the one child policy.
I don't doubt that there's at least a few billion people on the planet, but is 8 billion real?
That's a really great question.
I would lean towards it's absolutely a possibility just because of where you live.
Think about that.
Is it real that 10 million people live in that small little ass area compared to the rest of the state, which has another 10 million?
And is if we, if we're going geography and we're doing, we'll give you all New York City into Long Island.
We'll give you all the boroughs, the whole thing.
What do you think?
New York State's about 30 times the size physically, geographically, maybe more, maybe more.
So like if you look at Europe, it's not a massive landmass, but you get to almost American population if you go by that.
If you look at Canada, that's massive, almost as big as the United States.
Not quite there, but they don't have anywhere near it.
I believe they're in the, what, 60 million people range around there.
So, yeah, I think, and, you know, just from looking at the culture, absolutely in the second and third world, they're reproducing.
You know, there's some people out there, 10, 12 kids is still the norm, et cetera, et cetera.
Whether we're at 7 or 8 billion is a moot point because they didn't like 3 or 4 billion.
And if you're really looking at the numbers and even listening to a lot of the transhumanists, somebody like Kurzweil will tell you that we have plenty of resources and 95% of the usable land has not been used by human beings yet.
We just haven't set up infrastructures outside the cities.
Even Muskernuts, who I'm no fan of, will say, hey, man, you fly up in the air.
I do it a lot here.
We talk about it a lot.
You throw a bowling ball outside.
The chances you hitting a human being are like zip ito da.
He's like, we don't worry about the things that fall from space because the chances they're going to hit a human being are minuscule.
I think no matter what, obviously they've hyped this up.
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I think every single weather event, whether it be a hurricane or a tornado or a wildfire or anything, is now going to be blamed on this climate crisis.
And it's all about control.
I mean, they're blaming everything.
They're still trying to sell you on zoonotic virus, Frank.
The climate thing is incredible here, too.
Obviously, last week, earlier on last week, we had that whole smoke.
I was living in a pinkish-orange wasteland for three and a half days.
And I don't care what people say.
Yeah, there was burning wood.
It smelled like burning wood, but there was something else when it hit the lungs.
There was an accelerant or something going on.
I don't care what people say.
It was just too odd, and it's never happened before.
But again, very convenient.
Everybody stay inside.
It's hazardous out there.
And you know what?
It was far more hazardous, no doubt about it, than the virus.
Hey, hey, don't go outside.
The virus is running around like al-Qaeda.
And, you know, so we still stayed inside with that.
This time, there's actually a reason.
You go outside, you get choked up, your eyes start burning, stay inside.
The soccer moms in the town next door, they loved putting their masks back on.
But, you know, it's incredible to me that no matter what happens, it is always about the health crisis, the health crisis that ensues from one thing or another.
And yeah, they'll talk about, they'll talk about climate change in some kind of a way, but it's always about what can we do to make sure that we mitigate the health risk from all of this.
Obviously, it's always about what can we do legislatively to make sure this all goes away, deindustrialize the planet, all that, make it more like the third world.
But it's never been more clear to me, Jason, and I'm sure you and everybody else too, that there's nothing left.
There's nothing left of this con.
How is it that everything that we encounter in our lives in a social instance, in a environmental instance, anything that is, I don't know, poses some level of discomfort or concern, real or imagined, it always comes down to the same solutions.
How could it be possible that the same solutions fix every last problem?
And the solutions, hold on, are always proposed by the people at the top that caused the problems in the first place that they blame on all of us.
You drive too much.
Who made the fucking carps?
You use too much energy.
Who's pumping the oil and drilling into the ground for the gas?
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You're bad.
You eat too much meat.
It's not mom and pop farms anymore, is it, guys?
So that's the other side of that irony, right?
They always have the solution, but they never acknowledge they're part of the problem.
Right.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And it's verifiable links, too, that they are the ones that started the problem, whether it's the, hey, what greater example right now in current events than Ukraine, like we were saying before?
The superficial reporting, like, I mean, the shallow end of the pool, the baby pool reporting on things that are going out on in Ukraine and where it all originated from is staggering.
But it's also a testament of how stupid people are.
And not stupid in a knuckle-dragging.
They can't perform basic functions of life.
It's just dumbed down.
There's really no context to anything and there's no desire to learn more.
The fact that it is still okay, it is good enough for many millions of people to just accept that one day Russia wanted to invade Ukraine because Russia is bigger than Ukraine and Putin is more evil than anybody.
He's the most evil thing.
Yeah, dude, listen.
And that's all that's necessary, Jason.
That's all that's necessary for people.
And I don't want to move to Russia, but at the same time, is that really all that there is to this?
Do you really believe so, that the people that are telling you that Donald Trump is a fascist are also censoring, what's his name?
They're also censoring people like the JFK movie.
Oliver Stone?
Oliver Stone.
How can the people not think Oliver Stone is in the same, he needs to be silenced now?
Why?
Listen, man, they got new evidence that John Lennon had two separate types of bullets in him.
I'm going to have the author on it.
In fact, I'm glad I just thought about that.
Now that I know what my schedule is, I have to hit him up so I can interview him because he saw my video on it and it's nowhere.
And that guy was a cultural icon.
Forget about just Oliver Stone.
I mean, this was a Beatle.
This is a guy that made anti-war documentaries on.
And it looks like he was assassinated too.
And Mark David Chapman was just part of the story.
Nowhere.
We're in the post-truth world where they can literally tell us that Putin and Trump literally come from the nutsack of Satan, one from the left testicle, one from the right.
And we have to accept that reality that they can strike at any time with their venomous evil of bigotry, hatred, and bombs.
His name is Frank.
The show is quite frankly, the website is quite frankly.tv.
What do you got coming up this next coming week, my friend?
You know, tonight I'm going to, last night I had Brooks Agnew on to talk about the Antarctica whistleblower.
But tonight is just going to be, I'm reading through a lot of submitted mail about all the different types of topics we had on the show this week.
Next week we kick it off with Mickey Willis, the director of the Plandemic 3 video.
And there's a lot more coming.
I know you're on the schedule coming back up again.
I don't know what we'll talk about yet, but I find it really, really hard to say, hey, this is what we're going to talk about in three weeks because what happens in a six-hour period is usually blinding.
So be on the lookout for Jason Burmes coming back on, quite frankly, very soon.
And as always, man, I'm really honored by the invite.
And anytime you need me, I'll be there.
Well, I love it, man.
And anytime you need me, I'll be there as well.
And I'm going to send you a succinct breakdown video of the QA nonsense, microchip, the McConney case, where I point to the documents, where you see the videos, and you're like, holy shit.
Because that is important, right?
The alternative media has got to not only do better than the mainstream media, but they have to find its faults.
They have to admit when they're wrong.
And they have to go for one thing, man, the truth, because lies don't make friends.