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So, we got to talk on Thursday for Jason's audience.
It's behind his paywall.
It's a super special special that we talked freely.
So, I don't want to repeat that, but I feel like there's a lot of other things we could talk about readily.
And if there's any news from this week that you wanted to dig into with us, cool.
We can have it that.
But I also wanted to do some time machining for the audience because you've been around.
Like, you know, we talked on Thursday.
We've known each other 17 years now.
And you talked about how we first met, but I was thinking about it afterwards.
I said, I wish I would have talked about the second time we met.
Because the second time we met, I drove out to Odeonta to see you and Luke and Corey.
I'm sorry, Dylan and Corey.
Luke was there, I believe, right?
Yeah, yeah, he also appreciates it.
Like a Michael Parker.
Basically, we kind of threw after getting, you know, loose change final cup party at this place we were living at that had kind of like a, you know, almost like a mile-long driveway.
So you're kind of out in the country, but not so much.
Then you're hitting the driveway, you go down it.
And then we had four acres in the back, but we also had four wheelers, and there was an additional 30-plus acres for that.
So I love that place, man.
It was a great spot.
And you guys were well set up, hanging out.
It was like your own little fraternity house, you know, and you guys are doing truth content and you were talking about the Vatican and these people were baby rapists.
And I was like, bro, I found out.
Yeah, I got some information on that too.
Do you know about the Franklin cover-up?
And so it's just the amazing consistency you've demonstrated over the years of not letting these people not be accountable.
You keep teaching, you know, teaching the evangel.
You know, here's the deal.
If you're yourself, it comes pretty naturally, right?
Like, I'm pretty much, I'm not pretty much, I'm the same person on air as off in maybe a heightened situation where people are like, oh my God, who's that?
Who's that?
Or like, you know, I'm not the, I need an autograph guy or let's take a picture together, except for when it's somebody that I actually do know, like yourself.
Like maybe if like I see you, we would take a picture together.
But if I meet a celebrity and all that, I don't, I don't really care.
You know, I never did that.
Listen, the way I'm looking at it is if this person's going to have any respect for me, I can't be like everybody else, number one.
And number two, you're just another human being, just like I am.
Okay.
So let's start on that level and let's see where it goes from there.
So it's the same thing on air or if I meet like a Peter McCullough, right?
Like a Peter McCullough.
I'll tell you what, awesome guy, great guy behind the scenes too.
Made time for everybody, like really good guy.
Those are the kind of people when I see them interact.
I'm like, all right, that's a real person.
You know what I mean?
That guy's in it for the right reasons.
You know, he is doing what he can when he gets on a Tucker Carlson and he is torn with this information.
And I think the more that you think that way and act that way, the more, just like we've talked for years, probably something we discussed all the way back at that thing, law of attraction.
In fact, I know we discussed it because, you know, we've been talking about the nature of reality for a very long time.
And for those that don't know what the quote-unquote law of attraction is, you know, there's a movie out there called The Secret that kind of popularized the idea where you can bring things into your life through, you know, vision boards and thinking a certain way and et cetera.
That's a simplification of it, you know, but asking the universe for something over and over again, even on a conscious level, subconsciously, if you are not doing the things that you need to and consciously doing the things that you need to, then it's not going to work.
That's not how the secret works.
You actually have to, it's not just a want.
It's got to be you, man.
And I look at it this way.
You know, I guess I can announce it on your show.
I don't know that I've announced it anywhere else, but I am a very blessed man.
I got the Red Voice Media gig.
When was it?
I think a little bit before October, maybe September.
I started doing basically what I did with you.
Once a week, long conversation, release a little bit, under a paywall, etc.
Great.
I had just a few conversations with Ray Dietrich, who does Red Voice Media, ex-police officer out in LA, moved to Arizona.
Basically, you know, a guy I'm very much on the same page with, but they're very red over there, right?
You know, I'm being very red, 100%.
I'm talking to him on a personal level, even before I get the gig.
The first time I talk to him, you know, he's got a business phone.
He goes, dude, this stuff is too good.
I'm going to give you my personal number.
Anything you need, anytime you need it, boom.
So he's also an MMA fan.
So I know Pat Militich.
You know, I'm also calling MMA fights.
That's a huge in.
So we actually become kind of buddies outside of just work, you know, and we're texting each other back.
But within two months, you know, even me mentioning it on the show and us talking very minimally behind the scenes, just that I want to do more.
And I've always said that, right?
Richard, you know, there were times where I was doing those three to eight videos a day, which, you know, kind of extensive, but they were short form.
They were at my leisure.
I had gotten accustomed to them because I was working with We Are Change and I had pushed for us to do four videos a day.
I was low on money, I'll be honest.
So I was still monetized on YouTube.
I was getting up at five, six in the morning, putting out three videos before any of the We Are Change stuff just to get out there.
And basically, you know, out of necessity, I still loved it, but I'm like, well, if I'm going to keep doing this, well, I have to do it.
I have no choice, right?
I've got to up the game.
I've always said, look, it's very hard in this business.
Okay.
And because I don't treat it like a business, I don't go, oh, I can't say that.
And when I say, oh, I can't say that, I tell you why.
And then later on in the uncensored portion, I say it.
Like, you know, I can't say that here because I'm going to get banned.
You know, and we have a long, extensive history of that now that precedes the COVID-19 44 nightmare.
We've been talking about this for a very long time.
So anyway, I say I want to do more.
This guy actually bucks up the money.
I'm like, holy shit.
I can't even.
He's like, I do, let's do it.
Let's do a four.
And I had my vision.
I said, look, I want to do a four-day a week show.
I want to do it for two hours.
I want to do it in the morning sometime.
Get it out there.
I want to basically, I want to set the day.
You know, I'm not going to let the day set me.
In other words, you look at all this stuff that the majority, and this isn't a knock because there is a lot of good stuff that comes out of the alternative media.
But what I like about your show in particular is, and our conversation is what we talked about this week relevant tomorrow, two weeks from now when the whole thing goes free, just like my Zach Voorhees interview, right?
And then someone.
Yeah, he's awesome.
I mean, we had a really great conversation about AI.
We did mid-journey on air together.
We sparred back and forth a little bit.
I quoted some things, showed him some things.
Great conversation from somebody who writes on a technical level and exposed censorship, gets it, right?
So basically, after I start doing the four-day a week show, he is expanding.
And God bless Red Voice Media for it.
They just opened a studio down with Drew Berquist, who is also like basically the other head of the network doing all these things.
And we have a lineup that goes almost 12 hours a day now.
Okay.
It's impressive.
We made the second hour free, where the original model was we were actually doing it.
First hour free, but you got to pay for the second hour.
A lot of people, even the Rockfinners, they were upset with that.
I didn't love that model either.
But hey, you got to bring people in, right?
Bills don't pay themselves.
And I did have a lot of people come over, but again, I mean, he's actually writing a check, folks.
That's all I'm going to say.
I'm doing okay over there.
So, anyway, we moved to the model where it's both hours free, and now I do two one-hour interviews, which I like anyway, right?
And I get out of the way whenever.
And they go up, and I still get to release pieces of it, and it still goes free two weeks from now.
Awesome.
So, bless their love Red Voice Media.
That's not the announcement.
The announcement is that through that, you know, and being out there more and more and more and on Tour 3 Awaken America tour, I fell into doing a making sense of the madness for another network called American Media Periscope.
Now, look, if you thought Red Voice was right-wing, these guys are even more right-wing and very much pro-Trump, right?
And despite the fact that I can be contrarian on topics, I don't buy into Trust the Plan and all these where we go one and where we go all.
And I'm not on the Musk or Nuts train, right?
I'm not a Musketeer.
They let me say whatever I want, and they're super impressed with me.
So, they actually, I have been doing a once-a-week spot and substitute hosting.
I can announce now that as of tomorrow, I will be introduced as the new host of that show five days a week.
And they are another group that is writing me a check, booking guests that I would have no business or even knowledge of sometimes of booking, and giving me an opportunity to talk to people I normally don't talk to, and paying me to do it.
And I'll be honest, I had a great conversation with the guy, John Michael Chambers, who started the network.
And he said, Look, man, you know, I like what you do.
You're very smart.
Anything you say, I can look it up and say, Hey, here it is.
We don't agree on everything.
He's like, But I want you to go into this with a monologue where we can rival Tucker Carlson.
And I go, Look, I may not be the tuck-ins, but my monologue is going to be boss every day.
You know, if you, you, I know you watch Reality Rants, and I've been going on for 15 minutes here anyway, but that's usually what I try to do in that first 15-minute segment is kind of get everything off my chest and set the frame for the show.
You know what I mean?
And to be able to do that prompter-free, I'm blessed to be able to do that prompter-free.
But like I said, man, it's an extension of who the fuck I am.
Like, it just is.
Like, that's, I don't want to be on a prompter show, to be quite honest with you.
I don't really need a team of producers in the sense that every day we got to write something that's snazzy and bassy and breaking and booping.
No, no, you know, I got a couple people that are going to redistribute my stuff and book guests for me.
Let's roll, baby.
You know, I literally like, that's the other great thing about this show is when I have hosted, it is broken up with, I believe it's four commercial breaks, right?
And not like the RVM ones where I play them.
The producer actually goes to them, runs everything.
The virtual producer, and that's another thing.
You know, I'm sitting here in my virtual studio.
I don't even have to do any of this at this place.
They do all of that too.
So I'm not even running the show.
And it's at this pace where it's just like boom, boom, boom.
And it's so, it's a nice breakup, but at the same time, I don't need, I don't need to read stuff.
I've got it.
I write it up.
I've already queued them on what videos we will go to and when we're going to go to them with the guest.
They make the guests check in about 30 minutes before we even get started.
Virtual Producer BoomBoom00:15:35
So it's just a brief, hey, just so you know, this is what I want to talk about.
If there's anything else you'd like to talk about, let me know now.
You know, I'll mark it down.
And if anything, like if I got to remember a website, I got a little like note, the program.
I got a 4K screen in front of me.
I'm running my show here or looking back at the director, right?
And then I'm just reading it.
I'm, dude, the camera I use for this, which I'm very again is this big.
Like, it's this big.
It's so tiny.
I could send you, it's absurd.
And I have all this DSLR and mirrorless equipment.
You don't even need it anymore.
You don't even need it anymore, man.
And so, you know, I went from somebody and still somebody.
I'll be honest with you, dude.
People on my own network are scared of me.
Like, I've, I've reached, and I don't think they're bad people, and we've kind of communicated in the backdrop.
But, like, I'll just say I've been trying to book this one host for a while now.
And even he is, you know, there's plenty people in the alternative media who know who I am and just they respect me, but they don't want me to ask them the tough question.
Like, that's the thing.
Like, and I'm sorry.
We're going to have to have that conversation.
And I'm hoping you're going to be honest about it.
Because, look, like, I'm not, I had this conversation with Jamie Deluxe.
He's the other interview this week, right?
We're talking about Alan Dershowitz.
I'm sure you've got some things to say about Mr. Dershowitz.
We didn't get to talk too much about Dershowitz in our conversation, but let's do it right now.
Let's say he's totally innocent of any of the allegations of dirty man behavior with Epstein.
Let's give him that.
Okay, there's never been any evidence of it.
He's answered the question on video with his wife next to him saying it was an old lady rubbing him down.
I don't even know how old they get over at Epstein Island, mid-20s, late 20s.
Apparently, Olga was 60 or something.
And again, that's a little joke.
I don't know her name was Olga.
But put all that aside right now.
He successfully defended utter evil in 2007 to the point where that man didn't really have to plead to a sexual misconduct that would cause him harm across even the country.
There were 30 states he didn't even have to register as a quote-unquote sex offender as.
When he did have to go to jail, he was able to leave most days where a private investigator followed him on record to a private residence where women and girls went inside while he was there.
He enables pure evil.
That's it.
He knows what he's doing.
He's done that and worse a hundred times over.
He is amoral.
Again, forget about the you have no rights and I'm going to stab you up.
And you know, quite frankly, Mr. Dershowitz, no and no.
Like, I'm not a lawyer.
I don't come from that mentality, like fair game.
Like, I just can't understand why you would ever want that guy on your program as an advocate for anything.
You want to debate him on an issue and bring up a point like that all day, every day.
Let's have the conversation, but let's not aggrandize this guy.
And I, and I've seen it in mainstream, and I'm seeing it more and more in the alternative.
You can't pick and choose your demons, everybody.
I'll let you go.
That was great, Rant, dude.
All right, so first off, congratulations.
I couldn't be happier for you.
And to my understanding, so you're doing two hours or three hours a day, four or five days a week.
So right now, we are at the two-hour program.
It's 9 to 11 a.m. Eastern, Monday through Thursday.
And that's another thing.
You know, I'm the one who proposed a Friday off.
And basically, I proposed that for a couple reasons.
Number one, right now, RVM is its own thing, right?
And most of these things that get built, Burquist used to work over at the Blaze.
That's kind of what gave him his taste for this and what he wants to bring to the table and kind of make it that way.
So I think that's a good model, especially in the fact that you're only beholden to kind of your own advertisers at this point and who you pick and choose.
Okay, great.
And even if you did, this isn't on traditional AM-FM radio.
Okay, so you're not at that clock level.
Like when I do Jones, when I'm doing that, they play a feedback where I've got a clock in front of me and I can hear the music coming up in my ear when it's time to go.
I don't have any of that.
So you're in a different model.
If I was on the Jones model, three hours, because I'm getting those five-minute breaks or three-minute breaks or two-minute breaks, a lot.
Those radio breaks actually give you a lot where at the end of the day, you end up with about 40 minutes of content or two, 20 minutes of commercials.
Okay, we don't have that.
Number one.
Okay.
Number two, I don't generally take days off.
So I've now been doing this.
I think we since the new year, it may even been December.
We started doing it on the first.
It might even be more than we might be at like the six-month anniversary, almost seventh of this show.
I haven't missed a day.
I haven't thought about missing a day.
I haven't taken vacation from a day.
If I'm not there live, I set up a two-hour video that's brand new material and I premiere it at that time and give it to them to stream on their loop.
You know, I don't do that.
Like, I'm blessed, man.
Are you kidding me?
Everybody wants to be a bomber and a victim, and everything's so terrible.
Look, man, shit's fucked up for sure.
Ain't got to be fucked up in your day.
Like, you're the one that surrounds your own reality, right?
And look, I'm fighting the demons.
I got to know what the fucking demons are up to.
So, so that's the bottom line.
And this whole, I want to live then, or I want to live here or in this, that's not the world you live in.
Not acknowledging darkness doesn't shine light on it.
Now, by shining light on it, you have to be careful from literally absorbing that darkness to a level where it brings you down.
And I've had this problem with a lot of people close in my life that have woken up.
And I think to an extent at a level they never realized was possible, right?
A lot of people had that happen through this COVID-19 44 nightmare.
But we're all living in the dark cartoon extension of it, right?
And you've got to.
And I saw people when they were losing it over 9-11 and the hype on Iraq and whether or not we were going to have a draft in 2006, three years into that battle, those type of things.
I saw those people waking up, similar things.
And it's true, man.
You've got to watch yourself.
Like, even myself, like very, in the very beginning, before I got involved with any films where I was just the guy at the party in the beginning at Invisible Empire, winning at beer pong, talking about John Kerry and Bush being cousins and skull and bones and, you know, building seven and all those things.
You know, there was a time period where it was depressing, big time.
And then I went on this roller coaster ride where all of a sudden people were listening.
I thought we were going to change the world and we didn't.
And that was a down point.
That was a little depressing.
I didn't, I mean, there's you can see my break where, like, after I got done with 9-11 and I'd made not only another film about 9-11, but my big picture film Invisible Empire, right?
I left InfoWars, you know, for a lot of reasons.
But one of the reasons was I wanted to back off for a little while.
You know, I wanted to make movies, but dude, again, I was in there day in, day out, day in, kind of like what I'm doing now.
There, I did have a three-hour show.
And there was, I remember one day, my record was I did nine hours of broadcast.
I hosted Jones.
Jones was doing four hours, and then he just started.
I hosted that.
I did my three-hour show, and I did two hours of other radio that day.
And I was just like, who the fuck wants to listen to me for that long?
I know you guys do seven hours.
I was going to say, I'm doing seven tonight, and I did seven earlier today, but it's different audiences.
There is overflow.
Half the people in the control room were in the thing I did earlier.
But you got that.
The evolution through this is important to people.
Yeah.
And you play the full-on, like big-long clips, which is part of it, right?
You know, a lot of people forget that.
And I do play clips, but like I can't go more than five minutes without opening my mouth and pausing a damn video.
Let's be honest.
And the five minutes is a long one.
Sometimes I don't go five minutes.
I like that, though.
I appreciate that because you provide much needed context when you pause because there's a lot of things that are sort of lost in translation in regards to the lexicon, sort of the terminology being used.
It can be very confusing.
So to pause and bring some context or even just to laugh and break it with humor.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That's huge.
Like, it's one of my favorite things that you do when you do your videos.
I appreciate that, man.
And, you know, you kind of have to because, you know, unlike you guys, you guys do play a lot of like alternative media pieces, right?
It's pretty rare on my show.
And even, I'd say this: it's even pretty rare that I do like morning joe or pundit stuff.
And I do do that occasionally.
But what I really do most of the times when I'm breaking these clips down is I'm breaking down their conferences, their white papers, their old school, like film on real documentaries.
Their commercials that they'll show that people aren't aware of.
Yeah, like some of the, like, it's all those, right?
These things that are in review for the public that are sort of like enigmatic or sort of, you know, behind the veil, but like right there.
And sort of, you know, you bring the light that.
And I think that's the key thing.
It's like, look, they're not only talking about it in white papers, they're also advertising about it.
On you can see all these YouTube advertises, but like at the same time, most people aren't seeing those advertisements like they're seeing where they go to see their favorite show or whatever.
So it's not, it's something that sort of falls in the background, right?
Sort of falls into the subconscious.
I don't even know about these working groups necessarily, oftentimes, much more so now.
But the fact that they're so conspicuous with how much they've talked about this, published about this, advertised about this, run conferences, multiple conferences a year about this.
Well, let's talk about the commercials too.
Because, you know, I do do that once in a while.
And you know what usually catches me on that is I'll be sitting there watching American Heroes channels, probably my favorite at this point because it's actually like old school history channel.
And don't get me wrong, I see James Meggs on it all the time as like a correspondent, all those networks because they're all owned by the same conglomerate.
But what I respect about this network at least is that there's a lot of World War I, World War II stuff, and at least raw footage that I can watch.
And I only bring that up to the commercial point is because I also get a taste of what the public gets, right?
Like when I watch those documentaries or American Pickers or Pawn Stars on those networks, I see what the commercials are.
And, you know, I guess I can't, I can no longer be shocked that literally, you know, two out of the five commercials that I usually see are some kind of pharmaceutical, period.
Like 100% for something.
That's two out of five every big break.
Now, that's alarming enough.
But then, even before COVID kicked off and I started doing videos about it, then I saw all these videos for HIV and PrEP.
And I was constantly going, listen, you know, they fooled my generation to thinking we were all going to get AIDS and die.
You needed to wear a condom or you were going to be Ben Affleck in the after school special that sex.
One time with your hot cheerleader girlfriend at a party, get HIV and be dead by your 19th birthday, right?
Like, literally, like, that's what you watched.
I watched that, and that was the feeling, like, oh my God.
You know, meanwhile, I mean, Anthony Fauci being a key player in that, let's not forget, you can get it from a cereal box.
So, like, you know, the fear campaign associated with the ramping up of the, you know, HIV and this, the disease it causes AIDS was insane.
It's something I just missed because I was born in 86, but I grew up with it as a young age where it was big.
I mean, they had lecturers come to our school, even in grade school, to talk about it.
We're unaware of this, obviously, is a major topic in middle school and high school.
But yeah.
No, I remember it being a hot topic in my grade school because, again, it's the generation of Ryan White.
I wasn't even 10 years old.
There was still the talk of kissing and being around people.
We're like, this is 80s stuff.
So I'm literally 10 or younger during all that.
And it's very vivid in my mind.
It obviously had an imprint.
And really, I would argue that the only time I started to question it other than like post-9-11, kind of questioning everything, because I became aware of the Stecker research and whether or not it was actually, you know, not viral, but that really the terrain theory of whether or not, you know, you were a healthy person, et cetera.
And before I came across, what is it, House of Numbers, which is an excellent documentary most people should watch, came across a documentary called Bigger, Stronger, Faster about Steroids.
Now, in that, a lot of the people are dead, actually, that they ended up featuring, which is interesting in itself.
But the thing that opened my eyes a lot was while I was sitting there watching this documentary, he went and he interviewed some dude who had like full-blown AIDS.
Forget about HIV.
White blood cell count was like at the lowest in the hospital.
And someone suggested it to him, it's time to start taking some steroids and exercising.
And this dude's just jacked and he's like, look, I wouldn't even be here right now.
You know what I mean?
And that kind of coincides.
You know, back in those days, I was actually, you know, in my late teens, early 20s.
I always been athletic.
And all of a sudden, I was in college.
I wasn't playing sports.
I wanted girls.
You know, can you say that anymore?
I liked girls.
And, you know, I didn't want to get, you know, I want to be able to defend myself somewhat.
So I started working out.
You know, I've done it in high school or whatever.
Yeah, I did the same thing in college.
Yeah.
And I had the creatine train was the big late 90s thing.
So I was on that, right?
And they tried to be.
There's some other supplements.
I would say, yeah.
Well, there was one in particular that now is something I take every day.
I don't even work out.
But nitric oxide at the time had just come on the market.
And I read this book like that thick on nitric oxide that came with it.
I loaded.
I got it.
And I was like, whoa, this stuff actually really works.
And then to find out, I mean, nitric oxide was something they were actually talking about treating COVID patients with in an aerosolized form very early on.
I understood why, because it did actually widen the blood vessels and allow for real flow.
And, you know, again, eating healthy and actually exercising, not only do you have more energy because of that, but the regeneration after the fact is much quicker.
Nitric Oxide Wonders00:15:54
It's a wonder drug.
And, you know, seeing that being underemphasized, and then later Judy Mikowitz talking about the InfoWars product and Anthony Fauci and how even then they knew nitric oxide.
And this is the 80s.
Think about that.
The 80s they knew about nitric oxide.
And really, it wasn't available till the late 90s as a supplement that most people thought was extremely sketchy.
And I remember they were horse ass pills in the very beginning.
They're still pretty big, but there were horse pills.
There's different mixes because you can't directly give somebody nitric oxide.
It has to be developed in your body.
So there are separate things.
They scared a lot of people with the L-arginine because it also.
Oh, yeah, L-arginine.
Yeah, I used to take that.
Well, because again, it can grow tumors nascently, you know, in life.
Automatic muscle growth factor, nerve growth factors, like these different growth factors.
But it's when you, when your body's healthy, they don't necessarily interrupt.
So it's all about nuance, particular to that individual's body.
And that's what's yeah.
Well, again, they scared a lot of people away from that.
And, you know, when I look at the people that are actually in shape and maybe are doing it quote unquote natural, they're not injecting nitric oxide is just a part of the game, man.
And to find out that they knew about this in the 80s, I had to wait till the late 90s to even know about it or use it.
I'm just finding out about it now.
And then, on top of that, you know what they did utilize it for in most cases and more than likely wanted you to keep a secret.
You know, essentially, they do it like Mikowitz said the wrong way, but that's by Agra, right?
And they make it about your dick.
Like, I get it.
We're all concerned about our dicks, everybody.
The dick has been a big seller throughout history.
Totally understand.
But, like, again, if you had a healthy populace that knew about nitric oxide the way they did even vitamin C or D in their older years, that's a huge deal.
And they don't want that because they know it does.
First of all, it makes all your other supplements work better just on the blood factors alone.
So, you know, I was on the fence about going to banned.video or infowarsstore.com or wherever I got to go get it because I'd heard Jones talk about it.
And I was like, I wonder.
But now, since I do have, I have quite a bit of his supplements.
They've worked quite well over the years.
So the nitric oxide, whether you get it from him or not, like I, there are a couple brands that I go to.
You know, I.
I got better than Infowars?
Tell us.
I'll be honest with you.
I'm sure Alex has top of the line supplements.
I've never seen it.
They're just white labels.
The best on the market, right?
So it's not like I trust him as a chemist.
I trust him to be a good businessman.
And I've always found value in his supplements.
Well, if Mikovitz likes it, you know, I've met Judy.
She's a lovely woman.
She definitely got that scientist gleam and mindset.
So, you know, I couldn't say otherwise.
You know, I get the four and a half, five-star stuff.
I watch the stupid YouTube videos on all the things.
I've taken supplements throughout the years.
I was pretty, you know, good in my mid to late 30s.
I need, in fact, I need, I'm saggy right now, man.
This is, I don't know, this is putting tits Burmes over here.
We need to get rid of it.
I'm the same, man.
I'm saying it's no good.
Don't worry about it.
I work out a lot.
And I've been setting up a huge garden this year.
So I've been pushing dirt all over the place and building beds.
And I have three different layers of tans, but I just can't get quite the it's different in the 20s, you know, when I was in college.
I like the golfers tan, the farmer's tan.
Yeah, I do.
That's quite literally building a greenhouse tan.
See, I'm not afraid to wear a tank top or just take it all off.
No, you're not.
No, you're not.
Yeah, I don't care.
You know, that's what I should have done.
That's what I should have done.
I had a couple rip-off sleeve shirts, but I just couldn't find them.
Now, that's when they're good.
I did that with a couple of my 9-11 shirts, man.
And I like the ones that kind of hang over the shoulder, almost like an old school, like Hoops jersey in the original White Man Can't Jump.
The one ridiculous Woody Harrelson callback for the night.
It's not just Cheers and the White House Plumbers.
There's also in between.
It's a great film with Wesley Stumps before the IRS costs.
That's right.
That's right.
It's a great movie.
It's a great movie.
All right.
So now you got all these days booked up where you're going to have to have content.
Are you going to say the same thing in the second Periscope gig as you do on Red Voice Media?
How are you going to refresh it?
Well, that's why I'm so lucky, right?
I don't even book these guests, but I have one to two guests every time.
So it's not Jason Burmes.
It's, you know, Jason Burmes with Michael Flynn or Byrne.
Or, you know, I had the guy you've seen on Tucker Carlson who heads the pilots that didn't want to get the jab.
They get a number one guest.
The whistleblower, what is it, Jeffrey Prather from Benghazi?
Again, guests that you may have never seen me talk to before.
So it's really, you know, other than maybe some overlap with some of the bigger stories that I want to get out there, right?
Obviously, if it's something that I bring up in my dialogue and it's an important story like that, you're probably going to catch something like that on Reality Rance.
But this is Burmese in a jacket suit every time.
Expect it somewhat clean-shaven.
I mean, this is about as clean-shaven as it'll be tomorrow, but the less scruff, no guff.
And it just, it's a different feel altogether.
That's why I'm very comfortable with doing this show.
So that's one.
That's a Periscope one, right?
That's that.
It's American Media Periscope.
And they have a website and also a Rumble channel.
But the website, they very much run it like a TV network, which is great because that's what they're trying to do.
They're trying to distribute this eventually through some type of satellite or TV service as a competitor to, say, an OAN or a Newsmax, etc.
And again, I'm super lucky, man.
Like, you know, again, I get to work with Red Voice Media and now American Media Periscope.
Both of them are trying to challenge the system where they wouldn't be paying a guy like Jason Burmes to say whatever he wants.
I can assure everybody, everything I've signed, nothing says I can't say what I want.
That's like it.
That's, I mean, guys, I've had plenty of bosses.
I've worked plenty of jobs.
I've been the boss of plenty of people.
You know, this is.
You know, you want to go back and make pieces of people.
You didn't get one of those daily wire contracts.
I'm here.
No.
I'm also not asking for $50 million.
I live within my means.
And that's the thing, man.
Like, look, if you look at my analytics, and maybe I could bring some up.
Why don't we bring some up?
Yeah, show us your analytics, dude.
Let's show people what my analytics are.
This is part entrepreneur show, too, as well as a comedy show and a news show.
Believe it or not, everybody, my analytics are quite actually.
Do I even have the right one up?
I probably don't.
No, I don't.
I don't see you.
No, I do.
Here we go.
I got it up.
Here we go.
We're analyticing.
So there we go.
Now, I can't grow my channel.
It says plus 69.
I was minus 72 last month.
But my numbers are ridiculous in the sense that if you look, let's go on the Harari video.
It's like got less than 4,000 views.
But why am I looking at this?
Let's go into engagement.
I get almost 60%.
I'm looking at mine too because I used to have a 45-minute average watch time on my videos.
Yeah, a 20-minute 18-almost minute watch time on this, right?
That's incredible on its own thing.
And I can't get any audience.
My reach, I have an almost 6%.
They say if you can get 5% on the average click-through rate, you're going to grow.
You're going to grow.
You know, out of, you know, the vast majority are actually unique viewers.
And this is an hour-long broadcast.
You know, if I go to what, let's see, see what a two-hour-long broadcast looks like.
Let's see.
Let's look at ours right here.
Let's look at the analytics.
99% likes of a 10-minute clip from me and you, big guy.
Where are we?
Analytics on it.
So we got five subscribers, apparently.
We did it.
Yeah.
That's what I was there for for you, dude.
But again, almost there for you.
Almost half the time.
Five minutes and 33 seconds on a 10-minute video is they beg for those type of numbers.
They can't wait.
That's true.
I was going to say, yeah, especially the way media has gone, even to get something that's a couple of minutes in.
I mean, that's you have like six seconds to catch attention and they're gone.
Maybe even not that.
I think that's what I was taught back in marketing when I was in.
100%.
He doesn't even have a good click-through.
I didn't even give you a good thumbnail.
I did you dirty, and we still got decent numbers, man.
Yeah.
Like, that's right.
Like, let's go to, I know I've got a, I've got an Epstein one that has, they love the, everybody loves the Epstein thumbs.
How much do you think this is due to the algorithm?
It's all the algorithms.
That's my point.
Yeah, yeah.
The whole continual shadow banning that is now made public with the Twitter files.
That's only corroborated what we already knew, but you know, it's happening cross-platform with all these different media companies, making sure that people who have look at it, the amount of time that people are spending watching these videos, yet there's no ability to get good, consistent stream beyond 5%, which is roughly sort of the average, or just to kind of get your channel moving in the right direction.
And the other thing is, again, think about all that.
To not make any money, whatever.
This is the excuse that you've given me.
Content that focuses on controversial issues and that is harmful to viewers.
I did go on a bit of a rant about this with Richard, but you're literally, I mean, that's a libelist statement.
Okay, because you're not saying or.
You're not saying controversial issues or is harmful to viewers.
You're saying is harmful.
You're saying I'll hurt somebody.
Now you're a big corporation, and I'm going to give you the chance to take it back, pay me my back dues, unshadow banned me, because one day I am going to get big enough to sue your ass.
One day there will be a video that goes viral, and I'm going to continually bring this up because you said I hurt people.
You said other people hurt people.
And that prevented your ability to gain revenue.
Period.
That's exactly like the metric by which you can actually win that.
It's not just you fucking demonetized me, okay?
And you've taken my channel so many times.
You're making a libelist statement that hurts.
You're the largest media company in the world by far.
It's not Google is it, everybody.
It's not like Apple, Disney, even their second.
I hate to tell everybody.
Again, Google is dragonfly overseas.
Android is everywhere.
That operating system is ever, so is Apple.
Okay.
I mean, they are it.
I would argue this: Google has more open contracts with the NSA and NASA.
And by the way, has that immortality division headed up by Ray Kurzweil, known as Why Can't I?
Is Calico?
Not to mention the, I forget the department that Regina Dugan used to run.
That's basically like, is it Google's version of DARPA?
Basically, so they have like their own version of DARPA basically internally with a private company.
And they're sharing between DARPA because she worked for both.
Yeah.
Because they're the same damn thing.
That's my point.
So again, you've got all the money in the world, all the power in the world.
You work with the agencies that are allowed to suppress everybody.
You work with the pseudo-agencies through signature reduction that are allowed to lie, misinform, and deflate narratives or limit narratives.
We're in a weird place, man.
I just hope that we can win a little bit here and there.
I'd love to come around with a little Mac roundhouse on some Mike Tyson action in an 80s video game.
Unfortunately, we're in the dark cartoon and it doesn't seem quite possible.
But I'm not giving up hope.
I'm cheery about it while I do it too.
Yeah, what would Mike Tyson say about Klaus Schwab's plan?
He would say, everybody had to plan until they get hit in the mouth.
He'd say something like that, you know?
Right?
Where's the Mike Tyson?
The truth movement.
I did not make fun of Mike.
That was a very honorable impression.
11 labs.
That's what it was.
Sorry, Mike.
He's a big fan of the show.
I was a big fan of this.
So now you got these plans.
They're unfolding.
It's a long time, and you have a lot of preparation, and it's intersecting with opportunity.
Is there anything that makes you nervous about the whole new opportunity adding this layer on?
Never.
That's the whole thing on these things, man.
You know, maybe it's just like me being dumb.
No, you're intrepid at this point.
You're seasoned.
Do you remember a time when things made you nervous like that?
You know what, man?
I'll tell you what.
There are still, I guess, don't get me wrong, there are always nervous moments in life, right?
All of a sudden, maybe you get caught off guard.
But I can bring it back to the moment where I just did not care anymore at all.
Like, we were getting ready to do the fifth anniversary in 9-11.
I had already, you know, done the round speaking.
I was trying so hard.
You'd already gone up against James Meggs of Well, no, that's where we're going with this.
That's where we're going to go.
Okay, right on this.
This is exactly.
Well, that's exactly where we're about to go to it.
So I was trying to get people for the fifth anniversary.
The altercation you're talking about happens on the fifth anniversary.
So I'm just trying to get as many people as I can down to New York City thinking that the media can't screw us this time and can't take, and they do.
They just take the cameras off and refuse to cover how many people are down there on 9-11 protesting it.
To this day, that's a history blackout, everybody.
They don't want you to know 10,000-plus people went down there to question 9-11 on the fifth anniversary.
You'll never hear about that.
Never hear about that in a history book unless we do something damn well about it.
And that's a precedent that's set that shows why you see blackouts today when it comes to anti-war or free speech stuff.
COVID, free speech, all this stuff.
You can't get near the actual people who are down there to get their word to them about the corruption.
Remember during the COVID-19, I mean, in London, huge protests in France.
Even before France, who was covering the Yellow Vest?
Almost nobody.
You know, pre-COVID 1984.
So anyway, that was like, you know, I had done so many interviews at that point and talked to people.
Like, you know, I remember I was super nervous when I got on the air on Howard Stern and had his ear for like 30 seconds.
Those type of things.
Like, but I was determined, right?
So originally, just so everybody knows, I was not going to debate popular mechanics at all.
And it was just going to be Dylan and somebody else, right?
And I was supposed to do Glenn Beck with Dylan.
That was something I was involved in.
I had been booked also on the anniversary to do Adam Carolla.
And I forget, I did some other show too, but I wasn't in studio.
And by the way, again, man, we had done so many of these things.
Maxim, been to New York City, back, done it in California, all these things.
I kind of become accustomed to it.
And I'll be honest, I wanted this so bad.
So bad.
And, you know, there were times of nerves or whatever.
I'm speaking to people.
And, you know, you never know.
Some people were sketchy.
There were definitely some times that Dylan Corey and I had our eye on certain people because crazy people also exist.
But the night before, we were already in New York City when I was told.
I should have been nervous as fuck because I was nervous about everything else.
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Like, I was just like, oh, man, you know, am I going to get arrested tomorrow?
How many people are going to show up?
And I was nervous about Dylan's performance alone against these vipers.
And all of a sudden they say, hey, they're bringing a second guy.
They want us to do a second guy too, Burma.
So you're in.
And I just, the biggest sense of relief came over me.
I was like, you're getting tagged in.
Like, you're getting, you know, tag team wrestling.
Let's go.
Oh, man.
I was so high.
I mean, I get goosebumps just saying right now.
Like, you see them right now.
I was pumped.
I'm like, yes.
Yeah, I get to take these motherfuckers on.
Yes.
And that was it.
That's like the next day, everything kind of washed over me of whether I was going to get arrested or everything else.
I knew that that was going to take place in the morning.
And it was just in my head that you're getting a shot at the title right now.
Like, you got one shot at these fuckers.
And I did.
We're supposed to go on against them.
Glenn Beck later in the day.
And I knew that wouldn't be as big because I knew that Amy Goodman would have us on for a half hour hour, right?
Which they did.
They did an hour with us.
They canceled us within an hour of that with Beck.
They said, well, we're having James Megs on.
No thanks, boys.
And then that's all I needed.
I might, you know, I felt so good after that.
Like, the rest of the day, I remember there was one point where a woman cop, for whatever reason, she started reaching for her plastic cuffs.
And I looked at her.
I go, really?
Is that where we're at right now?
Like, come on.
You're really going to put those on me?
Come on.
As a human being, I mean, can you not just have respect for what I'm doing?
You know, you were lied to.
Come on.
And she put them away, took a step back.
It's like, I'm not here because I want to be.
You know, like, I'm not.
You know, the only reason I want to be here is because these people are continuing to murder everybody.
And we're at risk too.
You know, and I got to tell you, man, every one of these gigs that I get, like, you know, people ask me if I get nervous before I go on a speech for Clay Clark, right?
You're in front of like two, 5,000 people or whatever.
No.
I go in there, and the only thing I'm nervous about is how much time I got to get my message in and to make sure my message is on point.
That's it.
Like, I'm in there laser focused.
Let's go.
Like, I'm making eye contact with people that need to make eye contact with.
I'm looking at grandma, who just saw Kash Patel, has no idea how deep this thing goes.
And I'm talking about brain chips and transsexuals coming together in a dark, again, in the dark cartoon of reality, you know, and I'm putting the evidence up there.
So that's it for me, man.
You give me an opportunity.
If I don't knock it out of the park, I'm going to damn well try.
And, you know, I may not be everybody's cup of tea, but there's not another moment.
You know, you'd have to put me on a pretty big stage politically, I think, at this point to get me in that kind of like nervous energy.
You know, or it'd have to be a different thing.
Like, to me, you put me in a room to debate somebody.
I am fucking frothing at the mouth, especially when there's an audience and it's an issue that matters.
I don't think there's a person on the planet that wants to take an opposition on any of the big issues I talk about that I'm not just going to fucking tool into.
Anybody.
I mean, anybody.
And I know that sounds arrogant and kind of, you know, cockfacious.
And I get it, but that's just how I feel.
There's no one in the political, public arena that I would have any problem debating a major issue with at all.
The bigger they are, the more fucking hyped I'm going to be.
That's it.
That comes from years of experience.
That comes from research experience.
You know, I mean, like, he's been in the battle.
It's one thing to have disposition.
Yeah, it's one battle hardened certainly.
It's one thing to have a disposition where you can be fearless in those moments, you know, take that nervous energy and transmute it into something like Carhesia, you know, and passion speech.
But it's another thing to, you know, harden yourself against constantly doing that over and over again.
And I think that's that's very impressive of anything I've noticed.
You've killed it with the Quay Clark, but yeah, your time is so short in that.
So like you have such, I mean, you know, you're not fighting what it doesn't seem to me with your presentation because you always have so much charisma with it.
You're not fighting whether or not you're nervous there.
It's more like how much time do you got?
Exactly.
How much time I've got.
I got to get this in.
I got Dennis Bushnell to talk about.
He said some crazy shit.
He's like, how many megatons can I get in here?
I'm just dropping truth bones.
Exactly.
And true story, guys.
Every single one of those.
And it's fun, you know, because I go with my girlfriend most of the time, right?
And she like the first one, she's like, well, are you going to put the presentation together?
I'm like, well, you know, I go on it too.
I got to get it done by 10.
And we're sitting there.
But she's like, really?
I'm like, yeah, I already know.
Listen, I got this stuff that I'm talking about down like the back of my hand.
I sit in Photoshop for like 15, 20 minutes.
You know, I make sure I clip out the things I do.
And then basically they run it through like a PowerPoint.
I don't even do that part of it.
I just label each one with a 0-1 all the way through that I go.
And I can usually, just from the pace of it, do up to like 20 slides and videos by memory.
Again, I'm blessed, man.
Like I realize not everybody can do that mentally.
But I worked on it.
You know, I might have been a little smart ass kid, but grades were important to me.
Academics was important to me.
I wasn't the best reading.
In fact, I almost got held back in first grade because of my reading level.
My math was always pretty good.
But, you know, again, gifted gab, didn't quite read as well.
And that's no fault to my parents.
My mom read to me all the time.
I remember being really scared because my brother at the time, he was a grade behind me.
He failed kindergarten.
I'm like, by the way, I never let my brother fucking live that down.
I'm a total prick.
Into our 30s.
What do you tell me?
You think you failed kindergarten?
Like, who does that?
I didn't even know that was possible.
It happened.
Exactly.
And I almost failed first grade, right?
So like, I don't know, something clicked in my little brain that, you know, my mom fought for me.
I ended up passing into second grade.
And I was kind of remedial in reading until like third or fourth grade.
But eventually took to it.
You know what I mean?
And one of the things that we did in third grade, which I think kind of also shaped the debate stage for me, is once a week, there would be, you could get extra credit or whatever, a debate where you had to cut out a news clipping and you had to debate an issue.
So if you wanted to do it, there'd be some story, that basic story, whether it was like an abortion rights issue or gun rights or whatever.
You had to clip out some story that was on your side of the issue and then come in.
And in the beginning of it, you know, they encouraged you to write down at least a paragraph or two summary of what you were going to present to the class.
But the teacher said, hey, you know, if you think you know it, you can just come in with the article, highlight it or not, and give it a go.
And me, being me and not, you know, wanting to write anything down, you know, again, I wasn't reading that well, at least on their level.
And the writing was kind of like the same thing, right?
I would be on the bus.
I'd have my little like protective scissors, the paper, pick out my thing on the bus, cut it out, 45-minute ride.
It was the first thing you did in the day after the Pledge of Allegiance.
And that was it.
And I was kicking ass.
I was like, just kicking these other kids' ass.
I was always able to talk and I really enjoyed it.
You know, and actually, I'll be honest with you, when I was a little kid, and thank God this didn't happen.
Probably for a number of reasons, one of which is that I don't really come from money or an esteemed family.
But I thought, hey, I want to be a lawyer because I can argue really well.
Right.
And I can make a lot of money that way.
Because, like, doctor didn't like, again, we're the 80s, right?
How are you going to make money and be rich?
Doctors and lawyers are doctors and lawyers.
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That's what they always talk.
Doctors and lawyers.
And I'm like, well, I don't like blood that much.
I don't want to cut people up.
Maybe I can be a lawyer.
Maybe that'll be a thing.
You know, and law shows started to get, you know, cop shows were always kind of popular.
But late 80s, early 90s, all of a sudden, the law and order start popping up and all that.
Yeah.
Crime shows took off in the 90s and 2000s.
My goodness.
Like out of control, almost like it's almost portend something about the collective human subconscious, but don't let it take me.
Hey, just real quick.
You meant PowerPoint, not Photoshop, right?
So which one?
No, no, for me, when I'm making the slides, I make them in Photoshop.
So what I do is like, so like, for instance, when I'm talking in front of people and I have slides of the future strategic warfare PDF, I'll grab those slides.
There's five pages on there I want.
So I'll grab the section from each page and then I'll stack it in a 1920 by 1080 that ends up being a slide of all those things.
And then when I give them to them, it's numbered.
So they run it through like a PowerPoint.
And as long as it's numbered, I have a clicker.
Yeah.
Every time I click, it just goes into the next slide.
The only thing is that I can't pause videos.
I can pause them at the thing, but then I'll skip over the next time around.
So I can't pause and go back to them.
So it actually works out better for me.
Like he says, I'm under the gun.
So if I got a clip that's running just a little bit too long, I'll stop it there and I'll just click through it.
Again, I'm lucky, man.
Gift Gab, you know, again, especially with the magic box technology.
I'm that guy when I'm not on stage.
I'm that guy in the bar.
Say the wrong thing.
I'll bring up that video in a second.
Like, oh, no, really, no, that did happen.
It's right here in high definition.
Here's Iman Salem.
That's what I found out about Iman Salem in the 1993 World Trade Center tapes of him talking with FBI agent John Antisev from you at our second meeting.
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Yeah, probably.
I mean, again, it was one of those weird things.
Like, it was in the public arena, but nobody else was talking about it.
And again, that's one of the reasons I think my show is important.
You know, whether I ever do the numbers of any of these other guys, that's fine with me.
First of all, I don't really want fame.
To be quite honest with you, getting recognized and that sort of thing weirds me out a little bit.
Like, I like my anonymity.
It's not something I'm really digging for.
But again, I'm trying to set the tone, man.
I'm trying to talk about things that really do matter.
Well, if that can happen then, and it's continuing to happen now.
And now we have all these other examples.
It's never been reformed.
And yet, Bill Barr, me and Chris Ray, we hatched out the problems right before that Durham report.
We got them all.
Don't you worry, Brett Baer.
We did it.
We did it.
That's not the same Bill Barr that brought in whose dad brought in Epstein to Dalton School.
It's not the same Bill Barr that went to law school because the CIA paid for him back in Iran-Contra days, is it?
No.
Yeah, it's the same guy.
It's not the same guy that's a lawyer for Epstein as well under Kirkland and Ellis, you know?
Like, it's not that guy.
Oh, no, it is that guy.
So, you know, again, and that's the thing, man.
Like, I don't believe in heroes.
And at the same time, I also don't believe everything in the game is rigged, right?
Like, there are certain things.
There are contingencies.
There's the elements of randomness, also the elements of complexity that's hard for anyone to know how the chips will fall, which is why they have a theory called game theory.
They try to anticipate every potential scenario to whatever could possibly manifest with whatever they're doing geopolitically.
And that's like what was it, 70s is when game theory comes out.
They have their little superheroes.
John Nash in the late 50s.
Yeah, it's John Nash and like Von Neumann and these other cyberneticists.
And basically, the gist is these are people who are trying to destroy our freedom.
But they don't understand freedom.
So they're always a step behind.
So freedom's going to continue to evolve, adapt, overcome.
These people who don't understand it and therefore hate it because they're ignorant, they have trouble dissembling something they don't really understand.
They can take wax at it.
Yes, we've seen, you know, but it's also still here alive and well and being passed on to the next generations.
Cybernetics, buddy.
Oh, boy.
Hey, I'm glad that we found out you're a procrastinator, that you work on those presentations right up to the last minute because I had a presentation last week at Exod and Build and I started it Thursday night and I finished it like two in the morning and I gave my presentation at like 9.30 the next morning.
And yeah, I know the topic.
Most challenging thing for me is getting through a coherent idea valuable for that audience in 30 minutes.
It's still in the middle.
It takes planning.
Yeah.
I mean, that's it's very difficult to be able to capture the essence of what you're trying to communicate in a few words or a few sentences.
You know, it's easier when you're on a long form podcast.
We have discussions about this show book, show references, but when you have to condense that down to something that's meaningful, impactful, hard-hitting in that moment to the exact that the thing that makes it truly unique and why we should pay attention to this thing, that takes time and effort.
So I do the same.
I wait.
JB, I know we're keeping you up late on Sunday night, but I brought an artifact for you.
Okay.
And I'm excited to show this to you.
All right.
It's called The Point Within a Circle by General Albert Pike.
Oh.
A Masonic Study.
Wow.
If we're going to see the power of Lucifer.
Such a quote-unquote moral man.
He's a very moral man.
Very dogmatic about morals, apparently.
Yes.
Let's see.
What's the year of this?
It was a reprint 1994.
Did you give the original date on there?
Maybe over here.
All right.
So I wanted to get to some of the symbolism here because it's all off Freemasonry and it's about the point in a circle and the symbolic lessons of that.
But if you just zoom out, you start to see an icon that you might start seeing with the Azoff Battalion.
It's all throughout these writings.
And the point within the circle that's talked about throughout this entire treatise is later transitioned into handshakes and then into other iconography.
The Star of David being one of them.
That's a point within the circle.
And then it starts to get into these types of Eastern symbols.
Any show in the history?
And there's a sun symbol, I think, or maybe that's the Nazi symbol.
But this is written before Hitler existed.
So I don't think he was trying to Buddhism.
It's within Hinduism and Zionism.
You know, it's sort of represent eternity, but the movement of eternity through time.
So the, you know, coming out of the center, sort of transcendent point is, you know, the four corners of the universe.
And as it spins, it creates a sort of lag effect, which where you get the sort of like, you know, that hang, hang, hanging effects with the Nazi symbol on the edge.
So basically, what they're saying is these symbols are, you know, this is man, the child of God, is therefore properly represented by the triangle.
It's so represented for many ages.
So these are all different symbols for the point in the circle.
That's a point in a square.
There's a point in a triangle.
There's more of these symbols.
So I just thought, given the recent fervor over such symbols and the juxtaposition to Target and this latest story about them targeting people's children that it was worth bringing out the fact that there is a lot of Freemasonic history, lore, symbology around the thing that turns out to be Target's logo.
Yeah, that part of it.
Oh, there is a lot of symbology out there, and that's like, you know, again, that's a rabbit hole we could go down for a lifetime, it seems like.
But yeah, no, that's really the weirdest thing about the whole thing, right?
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Is that you would think in a place where social Darwinism is supposed to exist, right?
That, you know, and for that, for everybody that understands that that's basically the strongest survive through natural evolution of our own species, that you wouldn't have archaic things like symbolism and occult practices through generational nepotistic bloodlines because there would be competition.
And eventually, just like empires, those empire families would fall.
But we don't find that.
Instead, we find that they only gain power and there's like this social climber class that integrates.
I would argue that the last great, I guess, robber baron or predator class family, the great ones, don't get me wrong, there's some that have come up since, like the Bushes, for instance, you know, that's definitely one that's there.
But like iconic is, of course, Rockefeller and Standard Oil.
It was the last one to kind of join that class of people that had ruled for hundreds, if not thousands of years through cutthroat behavior.
And that essentially is because technology got cut off from the rest of us and true competition got cut off from the rest of us.
And it was centralized, right?
And the scary thing is, again, when you look at that technology and the centralization of it, all these weird occult practices and meeting behind it, Richard.
So symbolism is certainly worth our attention.
Right on.
Well, Jay, it's been good doing a little workout with you.
I look forward to hanging out again.
I'm going to let you tap out for tonight.
I really enjoyed your last show with John Fitch.
I like his perspectives.
I like that you guys do a regular show together and you guys are like, you know, putting these things out there in the way that the everyday person can understand them.
And I like your morning show, man.
I think it's some of the best structured, consistent use of your energy over the years.
I really see you starting to hit on all cylinders.