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I am Jason Burmese and over the next hour, we're going to discuss the World Health Organization, the need for a clean non-mRNA blood supply, and much more with our guests, Noor Bin Laden and Clinton Ohlers.
Get ready to make sense of the madness.
Over the last several years, it has never become more apparent that there is indeed a global collectivist agenda to take control of not only our social systems.
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We lived it, folks.
We saw it happen.
We saw the restriction of cheap, effective medications while we were pushed an mRNA shot developed by the Defense Department that was continually pummeled down our throats as safe and effective.
We saw mandates for masks and medications so that you could keep your job, go to school, or even go to the supermarket.
And this superseded what nation state you were in.
It was across the board.
And people who I believe have malevolent intentions led the way under the guise of being benevolent.
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We're going to get into how she got into this arena of truth and get it kind of from a European perspective as well after this commercial break.
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Legal Frameworks and Mass Surveillance00:12:25
We are back.
It's Making Sense of the Madness.
And now joining me is Noor Bin Laden.
My question to you, Noor, is how do you get involved in questioning the World Health Organization on a global scale when the propaganda is so thick that these are the people that are here to save us?
Thank you for having me, Jason.
And that was an absolutely perfect introduction to the subject because what we are seeing is very much, in essence, the centralization, consolidation of the WHO's power in order for them, the globalists, I mean, to use this entity in order to implement a legal framework that would allow them to supersede national laws.
And to the point you made in your opening, is that what we saw with COVID was just the warm-up.
What they are planning is for WHO measures to become legally binding, excuse me, with the implementation of the international health regulations amendments and this so-called pandemic treaty, this international instrument, as they also refer to it, which would in effect beholden nation states to WHO rules and regulations and make them effectively law.
And so all of our nations would, in effect, answer to the WHO and to the director general Tedros Gabriel Jesus.
And so coming back to your question, it is absolutely, how would you say, a very strenuous exercise to make sense of all of it, having looked at all their documentation, their official paperwork,
their website, the nomenclature that they use in order to lead the public to believe that they are doing this for the benefit of mankind when in effect they are doing the exact opposite.
We are looking at a major power grab in order to push a global governance system under the guise of combating health emergencies and protecting the population.
When in effect, you look at the history of the WHO, this organization has done much more to harm populations rather than help populations.
I would agree with you 100%.
And you just have to look behind the veil.
But some of the things seemed so obvious during the COVID-19 44 nightmare.
Two of the main things that I think most people can't wrap their head around or are just ignorant of are that the World Health Organization and the authoritative sources, you know, the ones that actually still to this day partner with YouTube and are the authority on what can be said via that platform, you know, the number one video platform in the world, the number two search engine in the world, only behind Google, which owns them.
No big deal there.
But they said that natural immunity basically wasn't a thing or it wasn't good enough.
And they also said, which is completely insane, that the flu literally disappeared for a year to the point it was almost undetectable globally.
These two lies alone should prove their illegitimacy, and yet they're still the authorities and they're still pushing for more power, Noor.
You know, it's funny because they are very much pushing for this narrative of controlling dis and misinformation through the WHO.
They have this special department or program called Infodemic Management.
And the UN just came out, I think it was yesterday, with a whole report on how they wanted to combat misinformation and disinformation.
These are thinly veiled attempts to further erode our rights to free speech.
And they are using these vehicles like the WHO, like the UN, like the WEF.
All of these international institutions have been devised and have been poised as these entities to justify their encroachment on all of our rights under the guise of noble ideals, of wanting to protect us, as I mentioned a few moments ago.
And the lanes through which they are going to control and censor us is immense.
And the ramifications, or rather, the connections between all the different entities of the matrix, you mentioned YouTube, all the big tech companies are very much in bed with big pharma, with industry who are in bed with these international organizations, with these health authorities that are supposedly there to, again,
work towards the well-being of human beings when, in fact, not at all.
They've lied to us more times than we can count, and they are effectively pushing poisonous substances, shooting poisonous substances into our arms and into the arms of our children.
Meanwhile, making, how do you say, excuse me, my French is in the way of my English right now, cures, you know, like ivermectin or like hydroxychloroquine, all of these cures that we had were in effect banned.
It was the first time in the history of France that actually the government gave an order banning doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine.
It had never happened in the history of the country of France before.
It's just so sinister what has happened the past four years, especially.
But again, I mentioned this also during my reporting during the World Health Assembly the past three weeks, over the past three weeks, covering specifically the WHO.
They have a very long history of administering and pushing harmful substances and products onto the population.
So let's talk about that and these organizations, because just as you stated, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, not just suppressed, but made illegal to use.
In this country, in the United States, doctors that were administering IVs of vitamin D and vitamin C also were went after.
There were early studies, I was on this from the beginning, where inhaled nitric oxide or budesinide steroids were aiding inpatients.
And all of these things were either made illegal or demonized in the public eye.
Meanwhile, in this country, we have an FDA that has such a great track record with passing medications such as, you know, the opiate OxyContin or the SSRI drugs that are still available on the market.
Remdesivir was the go-to along with ventilators for helping people when they got so sick, they essentially couldn't breathe.
There wasn't a protocol before that.
And all of this was pushed globally by who?
The World Health Organization, Nor.
You see, Jason, the World Health Organization is at the moment one of the key chosen institutions they are using to push forward their agenda.
And they have so many different vehicles that are working hand in hand in lockstep with our own governments.
We cannot stress enough the role of our very own governments in this mass operation for global governance because it is our governments that choose the delegates that go to the WHO and that push this agenda forward.
If you look at the case of the United States specifically and the Biden regime, it is HHS that is working hand in hand with the WHO, with the Director General, to further consolidate what they call the strategic dialogue.
Xavier Becerra, the head of HHS in the U.S., is on record having very public meetings and a press conference actually with Tedros.
That was back in September 2022, where they stated their commitment to the WHO in terms of furthering this agenda of instituting a digitized health infrastructure where surveillance would be at the center of it.
Because make no mistake, this is not about our health.
This is very much about further instituting a mass surveillance system.
And they are just using health emergencies and pathogen detection as a Trojan horse to roll out tools that enable them to surveil and track populations because this is their overall goal.
They want to measure and track every single thing we do everywhere at all times.
And this is where I say the WHO is one piece of the puzzle.
You have the WEF.
You know, I was also in Davos in January reporting from there what was being said at the World Economic Forum's annual meeting.
And they are very much digitizing all aspects of our society for this very specific purpose.
They are leading us towards serfdom 2.0, where they want us to live in the pod, pods to eat the bugs and to have our carbon credits delivered to us, where we have travel restrictions.
And it's all there.
You know, Jason, you mentioned it earlier.
It's all there.
It's all in the documentation behind the veneer of noble ideals and all these lofty, positive terms where they pretend to act on our behalf for our benefit.
It's actually there, black on white.
They want total control over our lives.
And they, through the WHO, will institute the legal framework with these two instruments.
It's a two-track process.
They have the international health regulations amendments, which by the way were also kick-started by the Biden regime back in January 2022.
And then you have also this so-called pandemic treaty or accord.
Again, I mentioned it.
There are different names.
It hasn't been set yet.
But this is the legal framework that once the member states of the WHO adopt them, it essentially means that our sovereignty as nations and as individuals will be completely eradicated.
And we will have to answer to this unelected cabal of people that sit at the very top of all these organizations.
Well, I like that you have acknowledged that this is really about track, trace, and database on top of putting it under your skin via this fourth industrial revolution, incorporating it into a social/slash carbon credit score to allot you the right to move around, to allot you to eat certain things, to allot you travel in a certain area.
And this is what they have planned.
You said neo-feudalism 2.0.
It's the extension of Malthusianism.
What is a life worth?
And the social Darwinists at the top, the predator class, if you will, they will decide.
Track Trace Database Society00:02:35
I want to talk about that track trace database society and how it began to be implemented via COVID-19 and their quote-unquote contact tracing system.
I want to talk about the promise that Biden made prior to his election of 100,000 more of these contact tracers for what?
Things outside of coronavirus and COVID-19, of course, and what it will mean if we allow these institutions to take place at a level perhaps that we saw in Israel, where you had these digital passport systems that, if you weren't updated on your shots, you couldn't even go into the store to buy groceries.
More after this with Noor bin Laden, it's making sense of the maths.
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For peace and peace for health.
That is the actual new motto of the World Health Organization.
And it is one that is posing as being benevolent, but really all-encompassing.
And that's why we're even seeing an extension of the World Health Organization's power under the guise of what cyber pandemics that Tedros has talked about.
And of course, the ever-encroaching climate change carbon allotment agenda under this track trace database system.
WHO's New Power Play00:03:43
How does all that integrate together, Nor?
Because we know that we have more surveillance than ever.
We know that they instituted more surveillance than ever and got people accustomed to bending the knee, not just on testing, but then taking these shots that again were Defense Department developed and by no means traditional vaccines.
We actually had to change the terminology as to what a vaccine was to include these gene therapy drugs, Nor I think you hit the nail on the head, Jason, when you mentioned Malthus.
And these people that are sitting at the top of this pyramid or that are part of this cabal, I refer to them as the Malthusian psycho freaks because that's what they are.
And we cannot also lose sight of the fact that this is very much a eugenicist enterprise that they are pushing through the WHO.
You mentioned this bioweapon.
It is exactly that.
It is a bioweapon that has been unleashed on the population.
And the goal is very much stated, has been repeatedly stated by our so-called leaders, including the director general of the WHO, Tedros Gebréesus.
He is on record saying that the absolute goal of the WHO was to, quote, vaccinate 70% of the population.
And this number kept being repeated also by our government leaders, etc., during the time of the pandemic.
With regards to the agenda itself, they are looking to expand the mandate of the WHO by including climate change as a core part of the WHO purview.
They are claiming that climate change is a part of a health emergency, and that's how climate change should be looked at, because that enables then for them to declare.
So, with these new instruments I mentioned, in essence, what would happen is that the director general of the WHO would have full powers to declare a health emergency of international concern.
And it would involve a potential or an actual threat.
And this is actual wording from the documentation.
And by adding climate change into the mix, it allows them to really broaden the spectrum of what it is they can qualify as an emergency, which would then trigger these instruments, which would then allow the WHO to impose mandates, to impose forced jabs, to impose travel restrictions, to impose, obviously, the digital passports, which are, by the way,
in the process of being implemented.
I don't know if you saw, but last week the WHO and the EU announced their partnership whereby the WHO would use the base infrastructure that the EU set up during the pandemic, allowing the WHO to build on this to make a global health certificate, digital health certificate that would facilitate travel.
WHO and EU Partnership00:11:09
And all our leaders are also on record.
You know, the leaders at the B20, the health minister of Indonesia, that meeting took place in Bali.
So their health minister is on record saying that they need to institute a system whereby you would not be allowed to travel unless you have this type of digital certification.
So all the tools and the agenda is being rolled out as we speak, you know, and I follow what's going on in the U.S. very closely, American politics, because for various reasons, because of my love for the country in and of itself, but also because as someone sitting outside of the United States, I have a very clear understanding of how everything that happens in the U.S. affects the rest of the world.
And so while there is a war being waged internally, whereby your ruling class, who by the way, completely sold out to this cabal and who are pushing the agenda over at the WHO, are also just participating in this controlled demolition of the United States from within.
At the same time that you have this weaponized DOJ, weaponized FBI against the president of the United States, the legitimate president of the United States, and just upstanding American citizens who wanted to protest for free and fair elections.
At the same time that this is going on in the US, you have this advancement, these advancements and developments with the WHO that are incredibly serious happening here in Switzerland, where I'm sitting, that impact all of our nations.
And so we have to understand that this war is being waged on so many multiple, so many different fronts, excuse me, in order to lead us to complete serfdom.
And the few scraps of freedoms that we have left are in the process of being completely annihilated here in Geneva, in Switzerland, in the headquarters of the WHO, of the UN, and all of these organizations, also the headquarters of the WEF, which are also in Geneva, by the way.
Switzerland is very much the center of all these international institutions where all of this is happening largely behind closed doors, except for the information that they want to make public as part of their rollout for the population in terms of predictive programming and other different operations that are being rolled out at the same time.
So you mentioned earlier this treaty that still doesn't have a name.
And, you know, the debunkers, the fact checkers, they love to say, well, you have to sign on and then you actually have to volunteer after the dictate is made.
And what they don't tell you is the large majority of that treaty was written here in the United States for kind of that plausible deniability margin.
And what we really have is this techno-fascistic biomedical superstate of global governance being built before our eyes through the World Health Organization and through things like the United Nations and their sustainable development goals, their ESG agenda.
And off air for a moment, we talked about Elon Musk and his role in this and possibly narrative management.
But people are extremely ignorant to the fact that it was his company, Tesla, that partnered with Curvac that actually printed up much of the RNA shots that were then distributed through the United States by Moderna and Pfizer.
And this shows you that there is this internal industrialized club, the military-industrial complex, that Eisenhower warned us about.
Yes.
But it's outside of just the nation state of the United States.
It's global north.
You know, there's this very famous clip of Klaus Schwab, the chief minion, as I call him, of the World Economic Forum, where he states that they have infiltrated cabinets and governments across the world.
And it's 100% true.
Our governments are completely captured, Jason.
And this big club very much operates using different types of instruments.
Governments capture governments being one of these instruments.
Industry being a very big part of this network.
Obviously, at the base of all of this, you have the central banks, you have all these NGOs, all these international institutions, you have the press, the media, entertainment, Hollywood, academia.
They are all working hand in hand.
And I think it's very difficult for people to comprehend the extent of these people's capabilities.
We don't imagine that there's such a group of people that would be so capable of coordinating all of this together.
But I think thanks to President Trump, especially, and also the pandemic, which was just so grotesque in many respects, a lot of people are catching on when it comes to the magnitude of this system.
And you mentioned Elon Musk.
And the one thing I have to say, I was never on his, I never jumped onto the Elon Musk train.
I hope I'm wrong.
You know, you never know.
There are so many layers to all of this that's going on.
But at the end of the day, I think that electric vehicles are a total scam and are part of this agenda to track our every move.
And, you know, it's there in the proposed legislation.
The technology is there to allow these people to restrict our movements.
And who knows, one day, you know, oh, you've, how do you say, you've eaten up all your carbon credits.
And so you're not able to use your car anymore unless you buy them or, you know, you are a very good citizen who has not lost points because of wrong speak or wrongthink, then you'll be fine.
But also, you know, all this stuff with Neuralink.
And at the end of the day, all the government contracts, he's been granted and he's in bed with DARPA at the end of the day.
So I'm not sure what's going on.
Not only in bed with DARPA.
Not only in bed with DARPA, but launching their weapon systems via SpaceX, giving the Defense Department the back door to Starlink, where it is being utilized for death showers in Ukraine.
Like you said, behind the climate agenda with these electric cars printing up the shots, building robotics like humans, the optimist bot and pushing DARPA tech that is decades old, Neuralink.
Nor, go ahead.
I just want to say you did a very good video.
I believe a few days ago when I checked your Twitter profile, it was actually your pinned tweet where you talk about Elon Musk.
And also I follow very closely James Corbett from the Corbett Report.
Oh, you are?
Oh, I've known each other over a decade.
James Corbett.
Actually, we did a full forum on Elon Musk with Whitney Webb, Derek Brose, and Ryan Christian of The Last American Vagabond.
We are pretty hip to Elon Musk and his tricks.
Unfortunately, Nor, we are coming to that time where I got to let you plug your stuff, let my audience know where they can find it, but we got to have you back.
This has been a really great, insightful conversation about a very real and dark subject that I think that the vast majority of us have to confront and prepare ourselves for, Nor.
Yes.
We each have our part to play in exposing all of this.
So I really just encourage everyone to look at what they can do in their own lives and warn everybody at least send Jason's work, you know, my work, James Corbett's work, Whitney Webb's work, which I follow as well, which is terrific.
As for my links, I'm on Twitter.
I don't know for how long at Norbin Laden.
My website is norbinladen.com.
I have a podcast called Norbin Laden Calls, which is now available on Rumble.
And the last thing I'll say is, Jason, can you please send me that link offline of your forum?
Because I'd really love to watch that too.
I'll be following you on Twitter and I will be sure to send you that link.
Thank you once again.
We'll be back after this with ClintonOhlers of safeblood.us.
It's Making Sense of the Madness.
Pure, un- or un-jected mRNA-free blood?
Well, if you're in an emergency and you need a transfusion, that may not be the case.
And that is an extremely large issue that I don't think many people are thinking about.
But one person that is, is Clinton Olers.
And he is taking charge of this issue by trying to make it easier for you in case you need a surgery or a transfusion that you can get clean blood.
MRNA's Clotting Conundrum00:15:10
As we know, the mRNA is causing all sorts of problems.
So, Clinton, thank you so much for joining us.
Let me know, how do you get involved in something like this?
Oh, well, hey, it's a pleasure to be here, Jason.
And how I got involved was I was living and teaching in Hong Kong.
I was teaching at the University of Hong Kong, and then the COVID-19 pandemic broke out.
We came back to the United States, and I got very interested.
My background is in history.
I have a PhD in history, but I focus on history of science.
And I got very interested in really what looked like the train wreck of science that was occurring in the present day.
You know, the suppression of clearly evidentially supported therapeutics that could have ended this pandemic, like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.
You know, it was just it became very clear that things were not making sense, that studies coming out of medical journals were designed to fail, even corrupted, even in some cases, it looks like designed to under-treat and even thereby kill or over-treat and thereby kill some of the patients in the studies.
So, this was just startling to me as an academic researcher.
You know, this was just outside the framework of possible in academia and the idea of this, you know, beautiful and trustworthy thing called science and scientific research.
So, that's what got me onto this track.
And then, you know, as I kept moving along and writing on these topics, it became clear that the blood supply was one of the next areas we needed to work on.
And that's how I became connected with SafeBlood.
So let's talk about the shot in particular, because by no means is this a traditional vaccine, nor was it ever.
They may have advertised it that way, but this started with a partnership in 2013 with Moderna and DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency on what? mRNA gene therapy technology.
Later on, it would get other partners such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Merck, BARDA, the Institute Pastor.
But by 2016, they started patenting mRNA drugs, specifically for cancer in some cases.
But this was never FDA approved.
And it was largely accepted that mRNA was not, in fact, a vaccine or a traditional vaccine.
You talk about science.
Was it that type of talking point once you learned that it wasn't a traditional vaccine that you started to question things as safe and effective as this shot was advertised?
Well, you know, it went back much further than that for me because I had looked at the study out of the Journal of American Medical Association study in spring of 2020 that looked at the treatment of hydroxychloroquine, right, on the patients that were being given that in the hospitals.
And, you know, I showed by doing a reanalysis of that and running the statistics with a friend and colleague who's a quantum physicist that hydroxychloroquine had actually been quite effective and it was quite there in the data.
It was just not demonstrated by the study groups.
So once you see that kind of thing going on, and then you see what's clearly an experimental, even known in its own, you know, research documents stated to be experimental being rolled out on the public and treated as if it's not experimental.
And most of the public doesn't even know it's experimental.
Right there, you know, you have a problem.
And that was sort of, you know, the string that I started to pull on as ever as others did.
You know, leaders like Peter McCullough and others who really had the expertise to tease this apart.
And that's when you then started to realize that this vaccine is a disaster.
And you're right.
It's not really a vaccine.
That's a misnomer.
They redefined vaccine.
That's part of it.
Why are you redefining terms?
Well, exactly.
Why are we redefining a definition of a drug?
Why are we fast tracking something as the only solution and demonizing?
You mentioned hydroxychloroquine.
Obviously, ivermectin is another one.
Inhaled butesinide, inhaled nitric oxide, the proper vitamins and minerals we all need, such as vitamin C, vitamin D.
These were all viable avenues to curtail COVID-19, but they were never on the table and they were often demonized all before this shot.
And then the shot comes out and it's not even a shot.
In fact, not only did you have the mRNA technology, you also had the vector-based shots.
This also should have raised alarm bells, and I'm sure it did with you.
Yes, right.
The ongoing nature of it, you know, the discovery that it didn't stop transmission.
But really, even more than that, you know, the discovery of what it was doing, it was described as creating a part of your body would create a part of the virus.
And then, you know, kind of like, so your body, so your body can then recognize that part, kind of like if, say, you're scared of elephants, and you, but if you see a trunk or if you see a foot moving into the tent, then you know, oh, there's part of an elephant here.
I could defend against this larger beast.
But what they didn't tell us, for example, was that the actual part of the virus that they were creating was the dangerous pathogenic part.
Your body is now creating the spike protein, right?
It's like creating and firing bullets in order to defend yourself against bullets.
The very logic of it didn't make sense.
And then there was also so many lies about it.
I remember asking the question in my more, I guess, in my more naive moments, saying, well, this is encapsulated in a nanolipid particle that for 20 years has been designed and researched in order to get medications past the blood-brain barrier and throughout the body.
So what is it that I don't know that makes people think it would stay in the shoulder the way they're telling us?
And then, of course, now we have those leaked documents and video, video documents of the conversations, I believe, at the CDC and FDA, where they, one of those two institutions, where they are actually talking about the necessity of the vaccine traveling through the body.
And that was the whole reason that it was encapsulated in technology designed to do that very thing.
You know, so the flat out lying was alarming also.
Absolutely.
The flat out lying was alarming.
You talk about penetrating the blood-brain barrier.
This is the first time that we employed these type of lipid nanoparticles, which is bio-nanotechnology.
And all of this was either denied or downplayed, such as the fact that HIV, a small portion of that protein, was used in the sequence coding of these shots.
So is there any wonder that we're having all these adverse effects?
And that brings you to this work with the Safe Blood Foundation, specifically to do with the massive amounts of clotting we're seeing with mRNA-infected blood.
Yes, you know, we identified five things early on that are real concerns for somebody who might receive blood from an mRNA vaccinated donor.
The first is obviously the circulating spike protein, which we're finding is spike protein circulating in the blood and persisting in the body for much longer than expected.
And so by introducing spike protein into your own body, if you haven't been exposed, there's obviously a risk there.
Even people who have been exposed through the mRNA vaccine, if they've had it or had boosters, you know, they don't want re-exposure through the back door if they can avoid it.
The second part is the mRNA itself.
Another, what I guess is, I hate to say is a lie, but sure seems like it, is the misinformation or the gross underestimate that the mRNA in the body from the injection would quickly disintegrate within a matter of days.
Then we found out it was lasting weeks.
Now we know that typically the mRNA itself will circulate in the blood for as much as a month after injection.
So if you get a blood donation from somebody who was vaccinated within that one month window, you have no idea whether you're getting actually mRNA vaccine directly into your blood through the back door wave of blood transfusion.
Then there's, you know, the polyethylene glycol that we talked about that is the, well, actually, we didn't talk about that.
That's the preservative, right?
That appears to be what was causing people who were allergic to that to have anaphylactic shock.
There's also undeclared adjuvants and contaminants that will circulate in the blood until they're simply absorbed into your tissue.
Lastly, and this is a very interesting one, and I think will affect some of the things we see going forward, is that in making an mRNA vaccine, you can't guarantee that all of the RNA is complete.
And so, an incomplete mRNA strand codes for an incomplete protein.
And the risks with that is that some of those incomplete proteins can be very carcinogenic.
You know, Dr. Ryan Cole spoke about this in his interview with Del Bigtree on the HighWire.
It's very eye-opening.
And so, there's about five things that you want to avoid in getting a blood transfusion.
And that's what SafeBlood sets out to do.
And what we do is we match people with donors.
So, the unvaccinated have really stepped up and said, look, we want to help the public.
We want to help other people who haven't received the mRNA vaccine who need blood.
So, there throughout the country, we have members donating to help people that need transfusions.
And then, this goes for the vaccinated also.
For those, you know, people like my parents, for example, at the very beginning of this, you know, I didn't predict that this was going to be as dangerous.
And it seemed to us like benefits outweighed the risks.
But now they would certainly not want to get a blood transfusion from a vaccinated donor if they could avoid it.
And so, this is, you know, for people like them, too.
We're not discriminating against anyone to receive.
We wanted to help as many people as we can.
Well, you know, you just mentioned so many of these quote-unquote side effects that are extremely detrimental outside of the clots.
You know, you talked about basically the advent of not only autoimmune disorders, cognitive difficulties, anaphylactic shock.
Of course, we want a mechanism to avoid that.
If we were avoiding the shot in the first place, I want to talk to you on the flip side of this break on how people can get involved, especially not only with protecting themselves, but help you protect other people.
I want to talk about how this project started in Switzerland and the global necessity for a clean blood supply after this.
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I am your host, Jason Burmes.
We are joined by Clinton Ohlers of safeblood.us.
Before we get into how people can support the SafeBlood Foundation, how they can begin to protect themselves, we've got some more to talk about.
You have some slides and a video in particular that you want to show some of the detrimental effects that are happening due to these mRNA shots.
Yes, this is something anyone can go to.
If you go to our site, safeblood.us, go to the videos tab, you can see the video, or even on our landing page, we took portions of the video, made a still shot of it that shows you vaccinated blood and unvaccinated blood.
And of course, that's a little bit of a misnomer.
It's the blood itself is not vaccinated.
It's blood from an unvaccinated versus vaccinated donor.
If you keep scrolling down, you'll see it come up at the bottom there.
So, in this case, on the left-hand side, that's vaccinated blood.
Okay.
And on the right-hand side, that's how your blood should look under magnification.
Now, the black background, by the way, is just a filter put on to increase the contrast and make it easier to see.
But this is just the type of magnification you would see under, say, a medical school standard microscope.
And what you see going on is that on the left-hand side there, that in this case, it's a Moderna, and you can tell from the language here, these were done in Germany.
Well, the researchers began looking at the blood, you know, taking a blood sample drawn from a pinprick, putting it under a slide.
And on the left-hand side, you see this is called relode, and there's other things going on as well.
But that is the stacking, the stringy stacking of these blood cells really clinging together almost in a fashion that Dr. Pretorius down in South Africa noticed was the effect that spike protein had on the blood, which was to create a sort of almost a Lego effect.
And, you know, we're seeing this kind of thing there.
On the right-hand side, that's what your blood should look like, right?
Nice, clear, separated blood cells.
They're overlapping.
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And if you go to the video and put these up side by side in the first video, the first patients that come in, you'll see the spent pinprick.
And in video, it's really interesting to see because you can see the blood flowing freely.
Obviously, it's not moving very quickly on a slide, but it's unencumbered and it's clearly separated.
And then you have the individual who's been vaccinated come in, do the pinprick, and that blood is congested.
It's microclotting.
It's doing these things that we just described.
And so my concern was when I started with this, well, how representative is this?
Right?
Are we obviously nobody wants to be receiving blood that may have this going on?
Right.
And the question is, but how pervasive is this?
Is this the severe cases that we're trying to protect against?
Is this 10, 20% of the population who's been vaccinated, who has this?
What's the, you know, what's the level of risk?
And it turns out that what caused such alarm back in the summer of 2021 was the fact all of the slides, all of the tests being done on people who had received an mRNA vaccine were showing this characteristic.
Okay, so it was 100%.
And that's what got SafeBlood started.
Our founder, George Della Pietra, is in Switzerland, a naturopath who had run clinics internationally.
And he was very accompanied or accompanied, very acquainted with this form of blood analysis for diagnosis and other things and quickly saw that this was a critical problem.
And so that was August of 2021.
We were started.
SafeBlood was founded within a month simply because of the recognition of what these slides were showing us as really risks for the blood.
And as George describes it, he said, I hadn't, I had only seen these sorts of things going on really in later stage cancer patients.
And now they were going on in people who were walking around with apparently no other symptoms.
And it was quite alarming.
Well, let's talk about some of the medical personnel that you're currently working with because people such as Peter McCullough, who I've met and interviewed in the past, is certainly hopeful that we can somehow, you know,
protect those that have already taken the shot, somehow detox them, but then protect the rest of the population and let people know how they can support you financially so this work can move forward at a more rapid pace as it needs to.
Oh, yeah.
Well, there's great things to report here.
You know, we're getting contacted by a lot of medical practitioners and people around the country who are saying, hey, we recognize the importance here.
We want to be able to offer our patients blood that has not been affected.
You know, we want to be able to give them that option and have that taken care of for them so it's not this stressful process.
You know, they already have enough stress when they need blood.
You know, Dr. Jim Meehan, for example, he did heroic work with Ivermectin.
His office has reached out to us.
We just were connecting with a health share healthcare or health share.
I'm sorry, I'm stumbling on the word here.
A health sharing company by which people share their medical bills, you know, an alternative to insurance called Crossway Connect, and they're just wonderful people over there.
And they're also connected with a hospital in just outside of Akron, Ohio that serves a lot of the Amish.
And they are relaunching, they're reopening that hospital to serve that population, a larger population, starting in January of 2024.
And they're very excited to be working with us to get unvaccinated blood to that population that clearly was wary from the start.
And so the fact that we've now got clinics and hospitals that are very interested in this, that is very encouraging.
Now, what can the average person do to help?
Well, when you open the segment, you pointed out that in emergency situations, you cannot be guaranteed to get unvaccinated blood.
And that's simply because the matching process and cleaning the blood takes time.
For an emergency situation, you would have to have an existing blood bank.
And right now, that technology is still out somewhere in the future, hopefully just a year or two that we could get that underway.
So we have just in the past month, we've founded the Safe Blood Foundation.
And what that's going to do is raise money for research.
One of the things it'll do, it'll do several things, but one of the most important things is raise money for research so that we're able to test the blood to see whether it has been from a vaccinated or unvaccinated donor.
Because right now we can look at things under the microscope.
We can match people with people who, you know, we believe have integrity and have not been vaccinated and certainly are not receiving any remuneration for that.
But if you want to run a blood bank, part of the challenges is you need rapid testing that is 100% accurate.
And that just requires some more technology at this stage.
So that's what we're working towards.
And when we have that kind of thing, then you can have blood on hand, right?
And if you had blood on hand, then you have it for people who are in emergencies.
I mean, it often surprises people to know that even I, right, as one of the key people at SafeBlood, if I were in a car accident or anyone in my family, I could not be guaranteed to get unvaccinated blood myself.
And that's simply because an emergency situation, you'd have to rely on blood coming from the Red Cross.
And we know that blood is 70 to 80% from vaccinated donors.
Yeah, I want nothing to do with the Red Cross on any level because of the amount of corruption over the years that they've been exposed of taking part in.
But let's talk about blood matchmaking for a moment because one of the most effective things to do is actually donate your own blood and have that blood bank prior or get a direct match from somebody that you actually know.
Speak to that.
Yeah, and that's part of the educational arm of what we do.
We really want people to know that we believe you could reduce the need for blood by perhaps as high as 80% by doing just a number of other things.
First off, the most safe, the safest blood that you can have is your own blood.
So we tell all of our members, if you go on our site and become a member, you have access to our Living Will documents.
And that allows the Living Will states that if you're in the hospital, you would first and foremost like to receive blood through auto-transfusion, right?
It's extra steps for the hospital involve some added technology, but pretty much every hospital has a machine whereby they can recirculate your own blood into you.
Certainly that's the safest, right?
Other thing you can do, that's called auto-transfusion.
The next is autologo donation.
And that's where you simply donate to yourself ahead of time.
So the primary way to do that is you could donate blood to the hospital, say, 35 to up to 35 to 42 days in advance of your surgery.
And then you'd have your own blood available for you and can stay in refrigeration for approximately that amount of time.
Now, long term, you know, there are some companies that provide, you know, will deep freeze the blood.
And that's just, you know, recently emerged technology.
And that would, that would basically be the only option.
Costs about a dollar a day for people who wanted frozen blood on hand for some day in the future when they might need it.
But, you know, I think for a long time out, that's going to be, you know, that's not going to be 99 point something percent of the population who would, you know, have that ready for themselves.
So this is why we really want a blood bank going.
But it's also why we didn't wait for that.
Because if we want to save lives now and, you know, and save people's health now for those who might have an adverse reaction to mRNA vaccinated blood, the immediate thing to do now is to match, is to match people with donors.
And you talked about, you know, how people can meet donors.
I mean, certainly we will facilitate that process.
You can find your own donor.
You know, maybe we've noticed, for example, a lot of churches, there was a lot of less uptake of the vaccine, almost similar in some ways to the Amish, right?
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And so that's a trusted network.
Clinton, unfortunately, we have come to a close.
We have run out of time.
Safe already.us is the website.
The Safe Blood Foundation is where they can find all the information.
We're about saving lives.
We're about connecting people and we're about making sense of the madness.
Thanks for joining us here at AMP News, and we will see you all on the flip side.
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I read a few people wrong and that's my fault, but I learned from that and I think I'll be a more effective messenger as a result of that.
That'll free me up to do the next chapter, the next stage of my evolution, which is OMG, which is decentralizing journalism.
And sometimes things happen for a reason.
That's my goal.
That's my mission.
And I didn't ask for that, Lincoln.
I'd ever thought that would be my mission.
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