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May 23, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas

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Was Epstein Blackmailing Gates? | Reality Rants with Jason Bermas

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	We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in.
	Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want.
	We think too much and feel too little.
	More than machinery, we need humanity.
	We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, as if that's the way it's supposed to be.
	We know things are bad, worse than bad.
	They're crazy. Silence!
	The great and powerful Oz knows why you have come.
	You've got to say, I'm a human being!
	Goddammit! My life has value!
	You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!
	Don't give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think, or what to feel, who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder!
	Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men. Machine men with machine minds and machine hearts.
	It's showtime!
	And who loves you?
	And who do you love?
	Good morning, good morning, good morning.
	And score another one for Whitney Webb.
	Let me tell you something, folks.
	Whitney Webb has done really, I would say, an enormous service to people like myself who for years have tried to expose a quote-unquote deep state or executive within an executive that has Is cutthroat beyond mafia level, although incorporating organized crime into their model.
	And this is just too far for some people to go, okay?
	But we have to...
	We have to remember that the Central Intelligence Agency, during the days...
	Of MKUltra were running programs where they were running brothels.
	And if you don't think that underage girls, aka girls who were not 18, were part of that operation, you don't know how these people think or work.
	Now on the flip side of that, when it's somebody of legal age and you happen to be cheating on your wife, Oh, all of a sudden, that's also blackmailable.
	So, the big story going around right now is Jeffrey Epstein's attempt to extort money from Bill Gates over alleged affair with a young Russian.
	Man, they might want to change that headline.
	It's too bad because they actually had a pretty good breakdown of it.
	You know, it's behind the paywall.
	Over at the Wall Street Journal.
	But basically you have this 20-year-old Russian who is apparently a bridge player that he met.
	And her name is Mila Antonova.
	Okay, so she's a card player.
	And maybe Billy Boy wanted to stay married.
	You know, some wives are not cool, no matter how much money you have, with you cheating on them.
	So that is a black, mailable offense.
	Okay. And Whitney has been kind enough to send me these two bad boys.
	Take a look at that.
	For people to understand how thick this is right now.
	I want people to see what I got right here.
	This is... The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language.
	Been getting a lot of dictionaries lately because you know what?
	They're scrubbing words in the post-truth world.
	You see that? Let me try to...
	Yeah, that's right.
	Her books are thicker than this bad boy.
	I get it.
	It's got smaller print, you know, bigger pages.
	That's impressive. She's an impressive person.
	And when I've seen people come out and attack her, people who are trying to be social media influencers, losers of the highest degree, okay?
	Disingenuously, I know she's doing something right.
	And she's continued to do stuff that's right.
	She's awesome, man. The work with Unlimited Hangout has been phenomenal.
	Some of the best out there.
	And, you know...
	She's getting her due. I know that she's doing bigger and bigger interviews and deserves to.
	Again, she's helped other voices get out there, the people that aren't petty attackers and losers.
	Let me just say this.
	There's always room for legitimate criticism.
	I don't get everything right.
	I don't think that Whitney necessarily gets everything right.
	She got the blackmail thing right.
	Big time. Big time.
	She's correctly identifying the network.
	In fact, I had Whitney Webb on just before January 6th and she predicted January 6th.
	Tomorrow, I'm probably going to go and find that interview.
	Probably a long one. It's probably between an hour, hour and a half long.
	And I'm going to pick out five or ten minutes of that.
	We're going to play that tomorrow to show you how much of a mind she is.
	And she gets it. She gets it.
	This is, look, an international intelligence cartel.
	And that doesn't mean every single one of these people holds a clearance of some sort.
	There are cabals within these cabals.
	We've been talking recently about the Bilderberg Group.
	Wow. Again, huge story, barely discussed.
	Dan Dix, Josh Friedman, Charlie Skelton.
	We're going to actually read all of Charlie's article, I think, in the next segment.
	Charlie's article is awesome.
	I wish I could just have Charlie come on.
	I'm going to reach out to him and try to get his aftermath of Portugal and Lisbon.
	Did another bang-up job.
	In fact, the Guardian piece is the best piece because Charlie Skelton is there.
	And here's the thing.
	You know, when I say cabals within cabals, oh, well, the Bilderberg Group is public now.
	They gave us the list.
	And then they snuck Yoval Noah Harari in there.
	Old Yovali!
	And it's only because independent media was there.
	Another thing that is not being discussed here, and we're going to go through this whole Twitter feed here, is that some U.S. diplomat, an American diplomat, according to police, stayed for a little over two hours and then left.
	Huge motorcade for this person.
	Who is this U.S. diplomat?
	I didn't want to play the guessing game.
	This is what we're going to be reading. But G7 on the table, all that stuff.
	I'm wondering if anybody has John Kerry's itinerary.
	And I'm not saying that was John Kerry, by the way.
	I'd just be curious to know where John Kerry is.
	Because out of all the old players, the old school players in this administration, I think that he is the most important to them, the most coherent player.
	The most on board.
	In a sense, he's been doing this for a very long time.
	Wearing the mask. I mean, literally the mask.
	Look at that. Again, don't like to go on appearances, but whatever he did to his face years and years ago.
	Creeps me out, man.
	Gives me the wajili-illies.
	I don't like it. I don't like it.
	I'd like to know where he is.
	You know, because again, we have a president of the United States who can't speak.
	He can't talk.
	Like at all. It's gotten worse and worse and worse.
	And I saw him blaming MAGA extremists.
	MAGA extremists for the economy.
	And that's why in the second hour, the premium hour, which you can get over at rvmrumble.com free.
	When I say premium, it's uncensored.
	There are certain clips, for example, the Orfella clip that I want to play, I'm not sure we're going to get to play it, of basically every single talking head out there using the Bernaysian line they were giving.
	Nobody is safe until all of us are safe.
	And for him, and good, listen, again, we need people to push the limits.
	I can't play the video on my channel because if I play it on my channel, I'll get banned.
	They'll just take my channel. I don't even think they'll just give me a strike.
	I think they take my channel.
	Okay? He had limited monetization on his, and he posts the thing.
	Hey, good for you, buddy. Good for you, but some of us don't live in that world.
	Some of us live in the world of the ban hammer immediately.
	And it's only going to get worse through AI regulation of this.
	As the algorithms get better and better and better, which they will, okay?
	And already are.
	There's a 60 Minutes clip we are going to play in the first hour as well that...
	Really goes into technology that is much older but now commercially available.
	And I want to talk about that briefly.
	So in the 60 minutes clip, basically you have a woman who is an ethical hacker.
	What an actual white hat is, everybody.
	When we're talking about the computer hacking industry.
	Now at the same time...
	Has a business, a consultancy, does very intricately work with the military-industrial complex as well as big business.
	Okay? Are there conflicts there?
	Probably. But the illustration is that now AI software and voice morphing software is so good in real time that using a simple phone spoofing tool, which have been around now well over a decade, like 15 years, commercially available and easy to use.
	It comes up basically if they have access to your contacts or know what they're in the phone as, they just put that name in, spoof it with the number, it comes up, They find out what the phone number is, spoofs it, comes up, and then in real time the voice is there.
	And I won't give away the example until we watch the clip, but that technology, the voice morphing technology in real time, has been around literally like 25-30 years.
	25-30 years.
	How do I know that?
	How do I know that? Because in Loose Chain's second edition, and many, many people, many, many people have really criticized that edition.
	In some, legitimate criticism.
	100%. That's why we made the final cut.
	And there were certain things that were taken out.
	And this was taken out.
	But at the time, we were pointing to the fact that before the attacks in 2001, there was already real-time voice-morphing software that was being utilized by our government, our military-industrial complex, our shadow government, the executive within the executive, the continuity of government program.
	And I believe they called the president as the example, as somebody.
	Now, think about that. Would that be unprecedented?
	No, it would not. As we've already seen that the Central Intelligence Agency, when using human-like masks, went to George Bush's office and had a conversation with him as another person with that face on and then took the mask off in front of him.
	So the voice morphing technology, we took a lot of hits.
	And by the way, I just want to say this.
	I think that some of the phone calls were real.
	I think that others should obviously be questioned in light of the technology that we knew existed then and is now commercially available.
	Because that's how it works, everybody.
	The military-industrial complex utilizes things that are not available to the public that have been developed through technology to manipulate the public Alright?
	And run covert operations behind the scenes.
	Now eventually, as technology progresses, that gets out into the arena.
	And now Pandora's box is opening everywhere.
	Everywhere. So...
	Nico House in the second hour.
	I'm really excited about that.
	I haven't talked to Nico in like forever.
	That's a, you know, a true, you know, left perspective, progressive perspective.
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	Alright, we are back.
	One Nation Under Blackmail, Volumes 1 and 2.
	Again, One Nation Under Blackmail, Volumes 1 and 2.
	Proven right yet again.
	Okay, Whitney Webb doing it real.
	And I want to go back to that story really quickly before we get into the AI and play the clip.
	Because this Virgin Island case is huge.
	Why do you think all this is coming out right now?
	It's because someone had the ballskies and hutch to say, you know what, we've got some money and resources.
	There are still a lot of victims that are not being paid out.
	Let's take it to them.
	And we're talking about a team of lawyers in this case.
	The amount of documentation that's already out there is astounding.
	Deutsche Bank settles for $75 million.
	Let me say that.
	$75 million recently.
	That's a huge deal.
	You just can't get away with ads popping up after you bring it.
	But $75 million recently.
	Just in the last few days.
	Wow. Well, how about that?
	You've got Staley.
	You've got the fact... That there are obvious jokes being thrown around with these high-level banksters about them knowing what Epstein was doing.
	Two young girls joking about him dating Miley Cyrus.
	Doesn't mean he was dating her.
	That means they all knew he was into what?
	Young girls. 100%.
	It's a big fun fest.
	Jamie Dimon is supposed to testify.
	They're trying to subpoena Wexner.
	This is the case to pay attention to in case you haven't been listening to me.
	Forget about lists being unlocked, all that stuff.
	I have a scheduled interview with Nick Bryant.
	He called me last week and I totally forgot to call him back.
	I got a lot of big phone calls that I missed over the week and weekend that I'm going to have to get to.
	I got two other interviews to do after this because we're keeping the premium going too, big time.
	I just did Jay Dyer, Stuart J. Hooper, must-sees an hour long.
	We've released snippets here and there.
	I may play a clip or two in the first hour.
	But these are the real academics we should be looking at.
	Period. You know, Dyer, Hooper, Webb.
	They're extremely intelligent, extremely well-sourced.
	They get it. They get beyond the paradigm of right and left.
	And in a lot of ways, that paradigm is about to shift greatly with this new technology.
	So now I want to play this clip of 60 Minutes and this new publicly available AI technology.
	If you don't know how a criminal thinks, then you really don't know how you can protect yourself online.
	Rachel Toback is what's called an ethical hacker.
	She studies how these criminals operate.
	So ethical hackers, we step in and show you how it works.
	Toback is the CEO of Social Proof Security, a data protection firm that advises Fortune 500 companies, the military, and private citizens on their vulnerabilities.
	We hired her to show us how easy it is to use information found online to scam someone.
	We asked her to target our unsuspecting colleague, Elizabeth.
	Toback found Elizabeth's cell phone number on a business networking website.
	So, number one, there is a place where your information, your public information, it's all over the place.
	All over the place.
	Like... Easy to access this stuff.
	Some of it are behind small paywalls.
	But if you're targeting somebody, a small paywall is nothing.
	People would be shocked if they realized the data mining that is going on constantly in their lives.
	Behind the scenes.
	And then that track trace database system is going to the highest bidder.
	Now, my fear is that the solution to all this stuff, because, you know, basically everything does break this year.
	All the types of authentication via visuals and audio, it does.
	It's going to get out of control.
	But their solution is to have more track, trace, and database, but now under your skin.
	Like, biomedical data.
	Tyranny one could only imagine in the darkest and most dystopic reality.
	As we set up for an interview, Toback called Elizabeth but used an AI-powered app to mimic my voice and ask for my passport number.
	Oh, yes, yes, yes, I do have it.
	Okay, ready? It's...
	Toback played the AI-generated voice recording for us to reveal the scam.
	Elizabeth, sorry. Need my passport number because the Ukraine trip is on.
	Can you read that out to me? Does that sound familiar?
	Yes. And I gave her...
	Wow. I was duped.
	I was sitting over there. What did it say on your phone?
	Sharon. So I want to reiterate this.
	The spoofing stuff has been around commercially forever.
	It's a lot easier, right, than just real-time voice-morphing technology based on maybe even a small bit of audio.
	And I am glad that the target was somebody who wasn't quote-unquote famous.
	If you had just targeted the host of the show, there's plenty of publicly available audio of that person.
	You don't need that much publicly available audio of anybody anymore.
	That's also very frightening.
	So the technology, who knows...
	25, 30 years ago when the military-industrial complex was using it, you might have had quite a bit.
	It might have taken some real computing power.
	So you might have had to have a real big hardware device, right?
	That's something we all have to acknowledge.
	Now, that hardware device, I mean, just about anything can handle it.
	Because technology gets smaller, right?
	They can fit more transistors.
	Moore's law is real.
	Okay? Does that mean we're hitting the singularity soon?
	Let's hope not. Because their version of the singularity is nightmare-ish.
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	How did you do that?
	So I used something called a spoofing tool to actually be able to call you as Sharon.
	Oh, so I was hacked and I failed hacking.
	Everybody would get tricked with that.
	Everybody would. It says Sharon.
	Why would I not answer this call?
	Why would I not give that information?
	Tobak showed us how she took clips of me from television and put it into an app that cloned my voice.
	It took about five minutes.
	I am a public person.
	My voice is out there. Could a person who's not a public person like me be spoofed as easily?
	Anybody can be spoofed.
	And oftentimes, attackers will go after people.
	They don't even know who these people are.
	But they just know this person has a relationship to this other person.
	And they can impersonate that person enough just by changing the pitch and the modulation of their voice that I believe that's my nephew and I need to really wire that money.
	If you don't know how...
	I believe that's my nephew and I need to really wire that money.
	We're here and that's just like one of the very, very small examples of this.
	Again, the idea that there aren't going to be audio filters and face filters just the
	way that you see them now popping up on social media like the glam filter.
	You're not paying attention.
	Of course they are.
	That should frighten people because real time face and audio that is publicly available
	and that you don't need a crazy device for is going to be used in...
	First of all, it's a tool, right?
	So some people will use it like in a cool manner, right?
	They're kind of neat.
	They're kind of cool.
	And they'll use it for art and video projects.
	But that's the thing. Now, people post it online.
	And I was thinking about this the other day.
	Like I said, I've made mistakes.
	And there were two instances that I got duped and posted something on Twitter that was totally and completely fake.
	Yes, I did it!
	Man, I've been there since 2011.
	I can think of two times that I posted fake news.
	Fake news Burmas.
	You know them. Shilly McBee.
	Fake news. And those two times...
	One is the Charlie Hebdo attack.
	And somebody had made like a mock.
	I think it was like CNN International site.
	And I didn't look at it.
	And it was totally fake.
	And I deleted it within...
	I think someone... Again, someone behind the scenes told me...
	I believe it might have even been Abby Martin.
	And props to Abby.
	Thank you so much.
	There's a lefty whose work I respect.
	I may not agree with Abby all the time.
	Or her brother Robbie.
	But they put the work in.
	I'll tell you that right now.
	And they certainly sourced their material.
	So... She tells me that I take it down.
	Another time, there was a fake news story, I think, about Dog the Bounty Hunter and some incident that went on.
	And I posted it, and I think it was Paul Joseph Watson that hit me up and said, hey man, this is a satire site.
	I'm like, oh snap, got me.
	They got me. Since then, I've been a lot more careful.
	I still see stuff all the time that People say it's new or it's real.
	Like, there's a terrible fake video of the Pentagon.
	Okay? And it being hit by, you know, the sky.
	I mean, it's awful CGI. But at the same time, there's actually a couple of those videos.
	And, I mean, those are years.
	And somebody will send them to me in my DMs.
	And, you know, before they post them, people want to know, you know, is this a real story?
	Is this a real video?
	I can go, no, it's not real.
	Soon that's not really going to be possible for me to do anymore.
	You know, I'll tell you this.
	I was watching some UFO docs.
	Because I'm always really interested.
	I've been watching a lot of NASA, UFOs.
	People think that I have a closed mind because I've been talking about for a very long time that I don't necessarily believe in alien life.
	It's a possibility, but I don't think it's ever been proven.
	I think the vast majority of that is a disinfo program to hide exotic technologies, right?
	And I don't just say that.
	I've watched tons of stuff that...
	In my opinion, you know, it's from the other side.
	The MUFON side.
	And not that they're a bad organization.
	Out of all those people, because there are like a lot of grifters within that industry.
	I'll say that 100%.
	But there's grifters everywhere.
	I think that Richard Dolan is probably like the most well-spoken, the most honest, the most evidence-based.
	But when it comes down to it, that evidence is on paper.
	And from people that work within the system and unfortunately can't be trusted.
	You know, I was watching this one on the conscious connection.
	And, you know, I'm watching these people that think they're talking to aliens in their head from some other region.
	And I'm thinking, all right, well, let's assume they're not lying or hallucinating or something like that.
	Like this is actually happening to them.
	We're talking about voice technology, right?
	So you can say it in any kind of voice.
	But how do you know that's not a voice of God, voice to skull technology by the government?
	Again, that's a real thing.
	All right? That's seriously a real thing.
	That's why, for me, for instance, the targeted individual issue is an issue because But I can't prove it one way or the other.
	At all. It's going to be hard for somebody to get the meat and potatoes if somebody's getting the voice of God or two-skull technology.
	Talk about not winning the lottery.
	Winning the shit lottery is that's happening to you and nobody's really listening to you because, again, we live in that world where How could you?
	And they're disregarded out of hand.
	And then the other thing is that so many of them are on the inside and then talking about seeing these aliens.
	Very skeptical, especially with all the bioengineering we've been doing for literally since the World War II era.
	Chimera technology.
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	Mike, I'm interrupting this commercial.
	I can't help myself every time I watch it.
	I want to talk like this.
	Here's the deal. When I discussed the Bilderberg Group, its satellite organizations, and the methods they use for their madness, I talk about the military-industrial complex black budget.
	And that black budget, I mean really, you're talking about somewhere in the neighborhood of half a trillion to two trillion a year at this point.
	Very hard to prove. Think about how that money moves and where it moves to and what it moves for.
	And some of that probably relates to old blackmailing 10.
	Old blackmailing to make a lot of money through blackmail.
	Hey Gates! We need you to fund something.
	Get out that cheese, son!
	Him and every other scumbag that quote-unquote gets on the boat and becomes compromised.
	And the thing is, I want to read this entire Guardian article on the Bilderberg Group, which we will be doing.
	But before that, I want to play just this three-minute or so Clip of myself and...
	What is it?
	Yeah, it's right there. It's actually only like two minutes.
	Of Stuart J. Hooper and I talking about that black budget.
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	The black budget, again, because we have to speculate, could be anywhere from half that to two times that.
	So let me repeat that for people.
	Yeah, we've got $850 billion on the books, almost a trillion.
	Then you have the black ops budget that is somewhere in the neighborhood of between $500 billion and $2 trillion that we never hear about and does not have to be accounted for.
	That's a reality, Stuart.
	Yeah, there's a great book on that called Blank Check by Tim Weiner.
	And he does his best to figure out precisely what that black budget is.
	But as you mentioned, it's tough.
	It's hard to do. It's so tough in fact that, again, many academics would just say, oh, well, you can't figure that out, so why bother worrying about it?
	Let's go and measure something else.
	Well, I don't know.
	That might just be a problem.
	Even today, Stuart, the breaking news is somehow they messed up on the books on what they gave to Ukraine, and they've got an extra $3 billion for Ukraine.
	It's just $3 billion?
	Wait, we made a little mistake.
	Here's another $3 billion, and we're supposed to just accept that.
	Yeah, absolutely. I know this is going out on RVM. I've never branded myself left or right.
	I've never said I'm a liberal. I've never said I'm a conservative.
	I kind of pick and choose on the individual issues.
	The only thing I really care about is foreign policy, the military-industrial complex and stuff like this.
	I would challenge all of you out there.
	On the left or the right, because this applies regardless.
	If you think the military-industrial complex is a problem, well, what else could we use that $850 billion for?
	This is a country that apparently says it doesn't have enough money to provide health care to its citizens.
	This is a country that is not near number one in the world for education.
	So there's just two big social problems exactly that maybe you could address.
	So if you really want to figure out some solutions here, maybe that might be...
	But that's if you want an informed and active populace.
	Get the whole story.
	Get the whole story.
	So yeah. Those clips are also available for you guys to share far and wide on all sorts of social media platforms, including Twitter at Jason Bermas, where we gain like, again, when I gain over 100 people on a weekend, that's like the best I can do.
	Talk about throttling. My tweets, I was one of the first people to put out the Bilderberg list.
	So that one got a lot of traction.
	But if you see the motion and traction on my account and whatever algorithm they got shadowbanning me, come on, man.
	It's because they don't want you to...
	I've got to get Josh Friedman on as well.
	Because Josh Friedman did great.
	I'd love to get everybody that was there on.
	Josh Friedman did incredible work.
	Again, D. Yook...
	On Twitter. And that's where you can see, I mean, he goes down the line.
	And Skelton's commentary, just in the tweets, is so worth it.
	Talk about a guy that's kind of shadowbanned.
	You know, he's got like 6,000 followers.
	He should have 10 times that easily.
	Easily. Easily.
	Funny guy. And really, this is his really only journalistic topic that I've seen him really focus on.
	So let's do it.
	The Portuguese sun was doing its cheery best to make this year's Bilderberg meeting seem warm and welcoming, but nothing could take the deathly chill out of the official agenda of the secretive shindig for some of the world's most powerful people.
	Ukraine, Russia, and NATO weighed heavy on the schedule with fiscal challenges and transnational threats, seeming like light relief.
	Today, said the head of NATO, Jen Stolenberg, arriving in Lisbon to attend the talks, our security environment is more dangerous than it has been since the Cold War.
	This annual three-day conference to many things, an elite networking event,
	a diplomatic summit, a lobbying opportunity for transnational financial interests,
	an intense focus for conspiracy theory gossip, but above all, the 69th Bilderberg Conference
	at the glorious Pistana Palace appeared like a council of war.
	He's not wrong.
	Damn Charlie! Kicking ass, taking names, just a great, great written piece.
	Ukraine's foreign minister hadn't come to Lisbon because he loves the happy clatter of trams, and the Supreme Allied Commander of Europe wasn't here for the custard tarts.
	Which was a shame, because they're excellent.
	I guess they can't risk dusting them with cinnamon in Henry Kissinger's presence, because one sneezing might be enough to carry him off to his reward.
	That's an age joke and a funny one.
	On the eve of Kissinger's centenary, the former U.S. Secretary of State and longtime Bilderberg kingpin will be delighted or whatever dull ache he feels instead of delight to see so many U.S. intelligence officials at this year's meeting.
	They're Kissinger's kind of people.
	Biden sent his Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines, and his Senior Director for Strategic Planning, At the National Security Council, Thomas Wright.
	Plus a shadowy gaggle of White House strategists and spooks among them, Jen Easterly, the Director of Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security, who said recently that the Western world faces two epic defining threats and challenges, artificial intelligence and China, both of which feature on this year's agenda.
	Aside from Ukraine it was these issues which dominated thinking in Lisbon.
	China's overarching aim is to rearrange the world order, They don't mind a new world order, but they want to be manufactured at Bilderberg, not made in China.
	I would say a lot of those models align.
	They align. They want that.
	That's part of the game.
	But they certainly want to steer and control it rather than let some other emerging superpower do so.
	Let's see... We're good to go.
	Acknowledges the existential risks of AI, even warning that things could be worse than people are saying, but rejects the call made by some AI experts, including Elon Musk, for a six-month pause in AI development because any delay will simply benefit China.
	Let me say this. I don't think we should be delaying technology in that sense at all.
	Unless we're really talking about scary, chimeric, biomimetic stuff, which we probably are at this point behind the scenes, but that's not what they're talking about.
	We're talking about algorithmic AI in the form of bots and GPTs, whether they be text-based or art-based or even face-based, right? I think it should be an open market thing.
	Especially when the AI is telling us what it's telling us already censored.
	Because if it's not an open market, we're all screwed.
	All screwdy-screwed.
	There seemed a darkly iconic logic at play.
	We have to push ahead with developing something which might destroy us before China develops it into something that might destroy us.
	Another of the Silicon Valley luminaries in Lisbon was Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI.
	OpenAI, isn't that lovely?
	OpenAI's up in the pizzy.
	Better believe it. I mean, like I said, I actually agree it's not just elections, it's everywhere and everything.
	But everybody's so worried about election integrity.
	Yeah, okay. Interestingly, the question of U.S. leadership is on the conference agenda here at Bilderberg.
	Although, with the looming release of OpenAI's Next Generation Chat GPT-5, the 2024 presidential debates might well be won by a witty and charismatic chatbot.
	Altman is in favor of regulatory intervention by governments, which he says will be critical to mitigate the risks of increasingly powerful models.
	But not everyone here at Bilderberg agrees.
	Schmidt says that AI needs appropriate guardrails, but caused a stir last week for suggesting rather snootily That AI companies should be self-regulating because there's no way a non-industry person can understand what is possible.
	Here's the deal once again.
	I want these things to be open source or at least have competition because the AI they're giving us is awful.
	It's terrible. It's narrative management.
	Again, it's at the fingertips of those that are programming it.
	So you can't give a monopoly of the ability to program this AI to people that have been proven liars.
	Right? Nothing's leaking out from behind the luxuriant bourgeois vias.
	Of the Pistina Palace.
	He is correct there.
	Increasingly, Kissinger has been attending Bilderberg conferences on and off since 1957.
	His preoccupation with secrecy and personal diplomacy as a 1975 profile of his controversial statesman put it fits perfectly with the Bilderberg ferocious To keep the annual talks private.
	They do love those private talks.
	They love them. Chatham House rules.
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	Again, we got Nico House coming up in the second hour.
	Lots of private talks.
	killer piece by Charlie Skelton over at the Guardian.
	But it's a desire that sometimes tumbles over into paranoia.
	On Thursday, the Guardian met the European head of Bilderberg, Victor Halberstadt,
	coming out of the pharmacy in Lisbon, clutching a packet of barrier skin cream.
	Hal Zispert didn't just ignore a polite media approach.
	He flat-out denied that he was Victor Halberstadt and then hopped into a Mercedes which whisked him off
	through the security cordon.
	I'm not that guy.
	No, seriously. I'm not that guy.
	Nope. Nope. These aren't the droids you're looking for.
	This kind of Cold War cloak-and-daggerism seems oddly anarchistic for a conference that is hosting a cutting-edge conversation about artificial intelligence with the CEOs of DeepMind and Microsoft.
	That said, all the ducking and weaving seems to work if the endgame is inattentioned by the press.
	Considering the number and seniority of public figures and policy makers who attend Bilderberg, there is eerie lack of coverage in the world's mainstream press this year's roster.
	It reads just in part three prime ministers, two deputy prime ministers, the president of the European Parliament, the president of Eurogroup, the vice president of the European Commission, two EU commissioners, an MEP, any number of European ministers and a number of the House of Lords, D'Ambaeso, Moyo, Who, besides being a baroness, is also on the board of a giant oil company, Chevron.
	As ever, Big Oil was a powerful presence at Bilderberg with the heads of Total, BP, and Galp getting a seat at the table.
	Big Pharma had a healthy presence with the heads of Merck and Pfizer and the director of AstraZeneca on the list.
	Weird. Weird.
	Yeah, you realize that all these things are the things we cover here, right?
	And the international chemicals industry is represented by the CEO of BASF and a board member of Coca-Cola.
	Naturally enough, the likely primary interest of these chairman directors and CEOs is their bottom line.
	To which end, they're always keen to ensure industry regulations are bent in their favor.
	Luckily, many of them are senior members of A good example is the International Institute of Finance, a major force in global financial governments.
	It's shared by the head of Banco Santander and Bilderberg Steering Committee member, Anna Boten.
	John Waldron, president of Goldman Sachs.
	Oh, another banking deal.
	Nice. Goldman Sachs is also on the board.
	These are two of the most powerful financial lobbyists in the world.
	And yet, they get three luxurious days to chew the fat with the policymakers.
	Under no real media scrutiny.
	Except for what? Charlie Skelton.
	Dan Dix. Josh Friedman.
	I believe the other gentleman's name is Fredico Cavallo.
	Right? And then sparsely in the media.
	Hmm, that great. Isn't that lovely? This is the dark heart of Bilderberg's accountability problem.
	Just because the conference plays out in private doesn't mean the talks take place in some kind of
	conference plays out in private doesn't mean the talks take place in some kind of sanctified orb
	sanctified orb in which the commercial concerns of Luxembourg-based hedge funds, boss like Raleigh
	in which the commercial concerns of Luxembourg-based hedge funds, boss like Raleigh Van Rompard
	Van Rompard and co-chair of the CVC Capital Partners are somehow temporarily suspended.
	and co-chair of the CBC Capital Partners are somehow temporarily suspended.
	When the Spanish foreign minister is mulling over Ukraine with the head of NATO,
	When the Spanish foreign minister is mulling over Ukraine with the head of NATO,
	he's doing so with an earshot of some of the world's most rapacious investors like Henry Kravis
	or hedge fund boss Kenneth Griffin, the 21st richest man in America. These are people whose
	billions depend on having the informational edge over their competitors.
	And it's hard to know what the Griffins and Van Rappards are even doing there, except to pick up geostrategic tidbits to help make a quick buck.
	Arms dealing, anyone?
	Hey there! Ho!
	Have we talked arms dealing before?
	I wonder. I wonder if they talk about, I don't know, arms dealing in these books?
	arms dealers.
	Yet, that doesn't seem to raise any ethical red flags with any of the politicians who trot along to the talks.
	They're quite happy to talk Turkey behind the bourgeois villas with a bunch of billionaires and profiteers.
	But heaven forbid, there's a press conference at the end of it.
	Bravo, Charlie!
	Bravo! And like I said, I wanted to go kind of just down the line...
	Right here is David Lammy.
	He said he was extremely rude.
	And he called him a snooty grifter.
	He is not wrong. This is Clement Bone right there.
	He's the French transport minister.
	Plenty of ministers there, like he said.
	That's the crew of journalists right there.
	Doing great jobs. Thank God for those people.
	Thank God for those people. Bon voyage, Henri de 8th Patricia.
	So there you go. I mean, they nailed it this year.
	And this is the, yes, Federico D'Arte Cavallo did an excellent job.
	I guess they all had themselves a drink at the Bilderberg Hotel here, where it happened, afterwards, once you're allowed to be let back in.
	Okay, there's the steering committee member.
	I haven't played this clip. Let's play it.
	Let's see what we got here. Bonjour, Ms.
	Barbizet. Welcome to Lisbon.
	Will Total be well represented at the meeting this year?
	Mr. Barbese, as a steering committee member, could you give me one comment about what you might be
	focusing on at this year's meeting?
	No comments?
	Single play?
	Just one? Not even a half of one?
	I'm on the floor.
	We gotta get Friedman on.
	He does such a good job, man.
	And this is far from his first rodeo at Bilderberg.
	He's been there year in and year out.
	And that means something to me.
	It's not cheap or easy to go do these things.
	They don't want a spotlight on themselves.
	That's for sure. That's for certain.
	People need to realize that.
	These people want to hide in the darkness.
	It's a big deal.
	They don't want scrutiny over what they're doing.
	And that's a huge issue.
	That's a huge problem.
	You need to have oversight over, I don't know, unaccountable billionaires and their buddies.
	When you don't, you get a whole lot of this.
	You get a whole lot of it.
	Again, look at these books.
	Look at these books. My God.
	And again, anybody who wants...
	You know, I've heard that people write, oh, Whitney Webb steals him from...
	Bullshit. That's the...
	Again, those are from whiny losers.
	That's where that started.
	Like whiny losers and grifters.
	Her stuff is A1, number one.
	Well-researched.
	And the people that I've heard that she steals it from, I mean, geez, just some of the worst.
	Period. Like, period.
	And it's like, again, talk about attention seekers.
	They just can't wait.
	They can't wait to say, oh, you stole this from me.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	She stole it.
	She's a thief. Just wild stuff.
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	I'm going to admit him into the conversation here, and hopefully he's going to be able to hear and see me.
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	I can hear and see your beautiful face.
	Well, that is fantastic. My man.
	We are going to have to go to a VPN commercial in a couple minutes, but it's nice to see you.
	I haven't talked to you in God knows how long, probably over a year.
	Too long, man.
	It feels like at least a year.
	Probably more than a year, right?
	I mean, I know that you've been busy.
	We talk a little bit behind the scenes with your RT thing and so much more, but we really haven't talked about the state of the politics much after the Biden administration has even come into being, and we're almost in the next political cycle, right? Nah, facts.
	Yeah, for those that don't know you, which would probably be the vast majority of my somewhat conservative audience, at least over at Red Voice Media, that, you know, came along for the ride after me getting a job there.
	How did you get started, you know, as kind of like this progressive liberal from your generation into what you've become now, which I think is much more of an independent, but I'm gonna let you speak for yourself.
	Yeah, so funny enough, I actually have never been registered to a political party.
	I came into the fold working on Bernie's campaign in 2016 while I was at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
	I started the largest Bernie organization, the country, and it actually started at UNC, but we had done such a great job organizing the community.
	I ended up running the city, and eventually the campaign had me run the state.
	So I was the state director for Bernie's campaign right up until about three to four weeks before the campaign came to an end, obviously at the election of the North Carolina primaries.
	So to make that long story very short, I caught some motherfuckers cheating.
	And I was right, is basically what happened.
	Because I just happened to have a really weird and convenient network that maybe most of the state directors didn't have because most of the state directors were political operatives previously.
	People didn't really trust them all that much for that reason.
	However, I was a college student.
	I was a volunteer.
	I didn't come from a political background.
	I was just very good at galvanizing and motivating people to get activated.
	And so people trusted me, including some people in the campaign.
	So once I figured that out, I talked to Tulsi Gabbard, tried to figure out what I should do.
	Her, along with Jared and Elizabeth Lee Beck, all agreed that we should do something about it.
	And that's where the DNC fraud lawsuit was born.
	Me, Jared, Liz, and Colin O'Brien all worked on the DNC fraud lawsuit that went all the way up to the Supreme Court before it was conveniently knocked down.
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	House! Continue because that Supreme Court lawsuit is very, very important because we're still seeing, obviously, corruption in our election systems.
	I would argue in all directions, more directions now than ever before.
	Yeah, for sure. But the infrastructure is still there from the voting machines and those that get to count the votes ultimately, correct?
	Yes. Exactly.
	And people act like the mathematics are complicated.
	Well, first of all, what we learned in the DNC fraud lawsuit is that during one of the hearings, it was a hearing to dismiss, the DNC attorney, Ruth Spiva, argued in court that they could rig the election, smoke, fill the room, and they could choose their candidate there, and we couldn't do anything about it.
	Now, although the judge eventually said that that's actually simply not true, that they can't just ignore their DNC charter, what ended up happening is that politics came into play, ultimately.
	I mean, there were people who recused themselves.
	Like, when we appealed, somebody recused themselves, and that was probably the only impartial judge on that panel In Florida, South Florida specifically, the 11th Circuit Appellate Court, I believe it was.
	And so when we go to the Supreme Court, it's actually, it was hell for some reason.
	And I was like, why the hell are they holding this case for so long?
	And Jared and Liz were kind of confused too.
	Then we realized, even though it was supposed to be advantageous for us to have a mostly Republican Supreme Court judge for obvious reasons, The one judge that we didn't want to get it, obviously, was Clarence Thomas, specifically because he owed Biden a favor.
	And the moment that Biden wins the primary, Clarence Thomas gets the case and doesn't even hear it.
	He just immediately dismisses it.
	I think it's important for people to understand that because so many people right now look at Clarence Thomas as some kind of hero, especially on the right, with the abortion issue and they feel like the attacks of the donors that have been coming out through ProPublica and emphasized by other organizations aren't legitimate.
	I would argue that they are legitimate, but it's going on on all sides.
	And they are trying to take out this conservative judge, but don't think, like you just said, that he isn't doing favors for people and that he's always about accountability, especially in our elections.
	Jason, can I say, if they're trying to take out Clarence Thomas, it's to put somebody worse in.
	I think that you would probably agree with me on that.
	Yeah, 100%, which is scary, because he's so corrupt anyway.
	That's my point. People don't get it.
	Again, this guy had an opportunity to what?
	Have people look at these Democratic nominations.
	Oh, but we can't have that.
	And then now look what's happening with people like Carrie Lake.
	I'm glad that she's getting her day in court after going all the way to the Supreme Court.
	But at the same time, what is the outcome going to be when we have so many corrupt judges everywhere?
	And just like you said, if they're getting rid of somebody as bad as Clarence, they're getting ready to put someone worse in.
	Facts. I mean, Jason, you remember I had this conversation.
	I think that both of us kind of had the same feel about Trump for the most part.
	And I would always tell people, I said, for as bad as y'all feel Trump is, or like leftists, for example, for as bad as leftists or liberals might think Trump is, I said, for some reason, the elite have all agreed he's not bad enough.
	Mm-hmm. So what comes next is going to be worse.
	And good God, if we weren't right.
	I mean, Biden is literally trying to start World War III every single day.
	We're looking at this unwrapped, very similar to the history that I actually learned from Both you and, oh man, who's my guy who did a wonderful breakdown of how World War I actually started?
	Corbett maybe? Corbett?
	Corb, exactly. He did an amazing job on that documentary.
	Bro, and if you look at the history, like I used that history that I learned from Corbett I'm like, look at the patterns.
	You don't have to like him.
	You don't have to believe in anything outside of what we know for certain, even if you're a leftist.
	I've been talking about the Bolshevik Revolution.
	I'm like, if you look at the Bolshevik Revolution, it was funded by the U.S. and the U.K., Because at the end of the day, the goals that Corbett laid out by the U.S. was to do what?
	Take out Russia, take out Germany.
	Take out Russia, take out Germany.
	And the only piece that still remained on the chessboard was still Russia.
	And we are seeing 100 years later, they are still trying to make the same play.
	Till this day, they're still trying.
	It never happened. And they thought when they got rid of the royal family, it's a lot harder to keep a country united when they don't have a monarch to unite behind.
	They just didn't account for Stalin coming out of nowhere, but that's a different conversation.
	But my point is that when they take somebody out, bro, it's to put somebody worse in.
	Going back to the voting machines, this is what frustrated me about Trump.
	He kept talking about voter fraud.
	Voter fraud was Barely happening.
	Election fraud on a grand scale from politically organized individuals, institutions.
	That is what was happening.
	If you think Johnny Dick in his hand somewhere is doing this massive scale voter fraud, that's not.
	What's going to change the outcome of Donald Trump winning when this man literally increases voter base across every demographic except for white men.
	That takes political power, people, corporate power.
	And everyone needs to understand that our justice system, which, I mean, I'm an independent leftist, and I'm black.
	I don't believe our justice system is legitimate.
	I didn't just like, I don't conveniently decide like, oh man, now it's legit.
	Yeah, for sure. Like, no, if I thought of illegitimate before and I thought I'm going to think it's illegitimate later.
	And if they happen to get it right, it was on accident.
	It is an anomaly. That's how I feel about it.
	But our justices are different.
	Our Supreme court justices are not elected people.
	Our federal judges are not elected.
	Our U.S. attorneys are not elected.
	They are selected. And that is actually...
	We are an exclusion to the rule of the rest of North, South, and Central America.
	That's not how it works everywhere else.
	So let's talk about that because you know what?
	You just talked about selections.
	And I would say that the big story right now is the Durham report.
	And unfortunately with the Durham report, to me, I knew there weren't going to be any
	prosecutions because Bill Barr had already spouted that off.
	Durham brought in weak prosecutions where one out of three got convicted.
	They weren't really feature players.
	They've openly said they're not going after them, but they give enough talking points
	to the right where they can have their...
	I mean, essentially said the deep state does exist.
	If this wasn't a witch hunt, it sure looked like one.
	There should have never been an investigation.
	You get those talking points. Then the left says there's no prosecutions.
	Look at the Mueller report.
	They might not have been able to prove Russia, Russia, Russia.
	Which is crazy because if you look at the Mueller report, he kind of says the same thing as Durham.
	It's framed differently, but it's basically the same thing.
	Boom! You nailed it.
	You nailed it. So the whole thing is limited hangout management.
	You got your guy Mueller as the figurehead who came in.
	To do all the FBI cover-up of 9-11.
	Then you got Bill Barr, the CIA fixer, originally in there.
	And then he puts Durham in charge after the fact because things are heating up in that investigation.
	All of a sudden they have the Hunter Biden laptop and he can't look at that either.
	And by the way, even before all this, they had the Wiener laptop, which God knows what...
	Bro, that dude has a show now!
	They gave him a podcast. And he did it.
	This is what kills me. Again, pick your demons, people.
	But he originally, the guy might have backed off.
	I think it was Curtis Silva, the head of the guys that wear the red hats in New York City.
	Something Angels. The Guardian Angels.
	So they were like that vigilante group that started in the 80s that's still around down there that they could actually use more of in New York City.
	Yeah. You'll get prosecuted, let's be honest, Guardian Angels, at this point.
	It's craziness. They've inverted reality on us.
	All this has been going on a long time, just like you said.
	The machines have made it worse.
	There's no accountability there.
	Like I said, everybody gets their talking points in this report.
	Where is election integrity in 2024?
	I mean, do you have hopes of this Carrie Lake trial?
	What are your thoughts? No.
	Outside of, once again, perhaps it's exposing how corrupt our system is.
	I don't expect our election system to be fixed through the justice system.
	It will only be fixed once people fully wake up and flip a fucking table over, bro.
	I don't know what else people need to do.
	I'm not saying that we shouldn't care about elections.
	In fact, it's the opposite.
	I care so much about this stuff.
	People like Pasa Jardula and others, Fiorella, those who actually are in, who've been involved in this for years now, we care about this so much because I see so much time and energy in Wasted resources being put into an election, and that's from both sides, by the way, including Trump people, because I see a lot of my friends who are conservative who are going all in for Trump, and they, you know, they haven't talked to me as much lately, Jason, you know, even though we're still tight, because they know what I'm going to say when they bring it up to me.
	Like, they know that I'm going to be like, what the fuck are you doing, bro?
	Like, y'all haven't fixed any problems.
	And that's the thing. Let's talk about that.
	That's the biggest issue, okay?
	In 2020, Donald Trump could not have been in a position of more strength overseeing the elections before they happened.
	Now, in reality...
	And the Republican Party. Don't forget them.
	Both of them. Well, the Republican Party's a joke.
	Yeah, of course. But they both were operating from positions of strength, I mean.
	Yeah, well, again, look at his...
	Again, and I've talked about it.
	On the inside of his administration, you had two key guys that are just demon-level, and it's Pompeo and Barr.
	And they're the ones that are being promoted by conservatives that are on these type of tours, that are talking to people, and they're both central intelligence agency guys.
	Period. Yeah. So that's a bad move.
	And right after the election, Snake in the Grass, Pompeo acted like they were going to find a way to elect Trump, right?
	He's like, we're going to have the rightfully elected president in there.
	Yeah. Pompeo knew exactly what was going on.
	Yeah, that's what he meant. He did. He meant that. He definitely meant that.
	He got the right guy that he wanted, which was by...
	A hundred percent. And that's the thing.
	So Donnie T over there, beforehand, instead of coming to the American people and saying, hey, this COVID thing, I need an executive order now to get rid of these, and we're still going to have paper ballots and people in person, we're going to find a way.
	And actually, forget about these machines.
	Someone needs to just executive order, no privatized machines that are hooked up to the internet, mechanical machines and counts, period.
	That's the first step.
	Corporations do not get to have a say in our fucking election.
	I don't know why it's so controversial about that.
	What? That's insane to me.
	That we even have to say this.
	I live in Brazil now.
	I don't know if you know that. No, I didn't know that.
	I thought you were still in Florida. When did you move?
	I moved about two, three months ago now, actually.
	Yeah, about three months ago.
	I love it. I started the process about five months ago, but I moved officially about three months ago.
	Yeah. I love it. I love it.
	You know, it has its problems, but most of the problems in Brazil, which is part of the reason why I'm here, are caused by the deep state in the U.S., Right?
	So it's crazy the conversations I have with people and they are either exclusively blaming Bolsonaro for their problems or exclusively blaming Lula.
	And I say, you know, neither one of them are in control, right?
	Like, y'all think that y'all...
	I say y'all have a better agricultural industry than us.
	They have a better tourist industry than us.
	Jason, Brazil doesn't have natural disasters.
	Did you know that? No.
	Not a single. They don't have earthquakes.
	They don't have hurricanes. They don't have tornadoes.
	They don't even have fucking mudslides.
	Why is that? They don't have anything.
	Their nickname is like the Blessed Land because they don't have any...
	They have better weather than us.
	I mean, their animals are cooler than ours.
	Bro, I went to go see Jesus, the Christ, the Redeemer.
	There's just a monkey hanging out, talking to people, chilling.
	Everything is better here, even the food, the quality of the food, the quality of the meat, given how poisoned the food is in the U.S. Yeah, and that's exactly why the U.S. will never let Brazil reach its full potential.
	Because it has the diversity as well.
	And so I have to explain to people all the time, y'all kind of have control of your elections now.
	However, the influence of propaganda has started to become a lot more prevalent here because their elections are locked tight.
	They use fingerprint scanners and everything.
	So they're on biometric levels, right?
	I talked about this.
	Yeah, and it's a requirement to vote so that they have accountability for every single biometric.
	Like, in the country. So you have to vote.
	If the only way you don't get, the only way you're allowed to not vote, like, you have to basically have a referendum filled out or a memo, and then you send it in.
	Maybe you're in the hospital or something like that.
	But they even have ways to make sure that elderly and disabled people can vote.
	Which, you know, in theory is a great idea.
	But once again, then you have to address like the propaganda because now there's so many people who believe Bolsonaro was cheated because they don't even understand their election system.
	But that's by design.
	But Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were down here fucking around and people don't know about that.
	Well, let's talk about that aspect of it because, first of all, I want to take it back to where you talked about how One group of people is blaming Lula for their problems, and the other people are blaming Bolsonaro.
	So they're very much locked in a battle of who's good, who's evil.
	And they've got the enemy and the hero, just like here, in many ways, with Donny T and Joey B. When in reality, you just...
	Donny T and Joey B, when you roll it back, you know that Joey B runs nothing.
	You know his cackle monster surrogate runs nothing.
	Exactly. If we can even call her a surrogate, by the way.
	Well, again, she's supposed to be number two in charge.
	You know, there have been vice presidents that have done things.
	In fact, I would argue Joe Biden as a vice president was much more of a mover and shaker and getting policy done because of how corrupt he was and how long he had been there.
	And he was still, you know, conscious then.
	That's the reason that he was made vice president despite his embarrassing defeats multiple times.
	He was Joey B. He was literally insider gangster.
	That's why they made him that.
	So we have that.
	Let's go Brandon is fun.
	I get it. But then I got to hear Brandon say that it's MAGA extremists that have gutted the economy of the country.
	And it's like, what?
	He just said it yesterday. He said he's not to blame when it crashes.
	It's MAGA extremists.
	And I'm like, what planet are we on?
	That we've not...
	We've gone from, I don't know, left, right, conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat, to two kind of figureheads.
	Like, look, Donnie says the right things, but at the end of the day, he's still locked down the country.
	He still gave power to Fauci.
	I don't know how many fucking times we have to bring that shit up.
	I... Well, Trump is different.
	Operation Warp Speed. I don't want to hear how he's different.
	Operation Warp Speed is all you need to fucking know.
	Assange is still in jail.
	Operation Warp Speed. Period.
	Well, let's talk about that. What are we talking about?
	Listen, I think that there were certain things that he was able to do, but at the same time, Epstein got killed on his watch, right?
	He didn't speak out against that.
	Again, we're talking about Bill Barr, CIA guys, Pompeo, whatever they told him.
	Never released the JFK documents.
	You just said Operation Warp Speed.
	Huge thing. And Assange.
	Now here's the key. I don't know if you saw the news story about Giuliani in the last week that this woman is saying they had an inappropriate sexual relationship.
	She's suing him. Suing who?
	Giuliani or Assange? Giuliani.
	Okay? We'll get to why this connects to Assange in a moment.
	So anyway, one of the other things she said, and by the way, I don't care about his sexual relationships with younger women.
	None of that. Who cares? Okay.
	But the interesting thing is she brought up the fact that he was allegedly selling pardons for Trump at $2 million apiece and they were splitting the money.
	Now, why would I give that?
	Shit, man. That shit sounds like a business to me.
	Well, let me say this.
	I'm glad you said that because, let's see right here.
	That report was something that I had covered that wasn't through her lawsuit.
	Via this story right here, Giuliani associate told ex-CIA officer John Cariaco, the whistleblower, that's what I'm talking about back in January.
	And Cariaco, I watched his video on it.
	Basically, he came out and he said that he sat down with Giuliani and his associate.
	Giuliani got up, left the room, and then the associate said $2 million for a pardon.
	And Cariaco was taken aback because he was just there to plead his case.
	The fact that he wasn't a fucking narc or war criminal.
	He's actually a real whistleblower and hero, which he was.
	And it's not that I didn't believe him, but now that that's come out, that reinforces it, and it may be a reason that somebody like Kodak Black gets a pardon.
	100%. And Lil Wayne?
	I think Lil Wayne got a part in him.
	I like Lil Wayne. Listen, Lil Wayne, at least politically, is apolitical in the sense that he doesn't get behind candidates, but he doesn't preach...
	I hate his music, by the way. He doesn't preach the race hate.
	Some of the stuff, I can't stand.
	Best stuff he ever did was with Cash Money Billionaires.
	He just was kind of like, bro, does everybody smoke and chill?
	I'm just saying, it was never my cup of tea, but I've heard him say some things politically.
	Like, for instance, I don't know if you've ever heard the story of who saved his life.
	Oh, the black cop that saved his life, yeah.
	Well, I think it was a white cop, that was the thing.
	He talks about how it was a white cop and he didn't see the color.
	I always thought it was a black cop.
	No, I'm pretty sure that's the story, is that guy was just looking at me as a person.
	And then in the video I saw, he said, he's like, how can I feel oppressed when the guy that's sitting behind the camera taping me is white?
	He's like, that guy's not doing better than me.
	He's like, am I really being...
	They're here for me. He's like, so I don't live in that world.
	And I guess it happened to him.
	I think that young thing and then finding success at a young age when so many people...
	And the thing is, it doesn't matter what color you are.
	So many people struggle anyway to get to the level they want to be or feel like...
	they've achieved something, right?
	And some will never get there, you know, and there's a frustration to that.
	And we live in a victim society right now.
	That is very true.
	And that's also, I wanna say, cause I know that your show is a lot of conservatives.
	So I do wanna say, there seems to be this belief that like liberals victimize themselves
	more than conservatives do.
	And I'm just here to tell y'all, that's bullshit.
	Both of y'all victimize the fuck out of yourselves.
	Like, I just, like, I can't, well, I was poor too, like, bitch.
	So you went to the Depression Olympics?
	I thought that it was all good.
	What happened to self-determination?
	And I conquered through, I pulled myself up by the bootstraps.
	It's like, so now you're complaining about your situation?
	Or if a black person became successful, you assume that it's because they were black and they had some sort of advantage.
	Or maybe they took self-responsibility and handled their business too.
	There are victims on all sides.
	I think we've talked about this before.
	The social justice warrior rhetoric, people think that's exclusively a liberal thing.
	No, there's conservative, there's people who have entire podcasts explicitly and exclusively
	based on social justice warrior rhetoric just for the right.
	That's all.
	It doesn't further this country in any way.
	They take the most extreme example of a stupid fucking liberal doing stupid fucking liberal
	shit that even genuine leftists don't like.
	Just like liberals take this most extreme fucking example of some dumb shit Ben Shapiro
	said and pretend like that's all conservative.
	Like...
	Shapiro's like the worst too, man.
	Bro, the worst!
	Or Ted Cruz. I have so many conservative friends that think Ben Shapiro's a fucking idiot.
	Well, like, now they may not say that on Twitter.
	They may not say that on social media because, you know, you know how the politics fucking go.
	But, like... Well, the thing is, he's there to stretch the narrative too, right?
	Like, there are certain things he wouldn't do during the COVID-1984 nightmare.
	He pushed Jabby Jab all over the place.
	He pushed the Mueller report.
	He's like, oh, we're going to get to the bottom of this Russia gate with the Mueller report.
	You know... Oh, I forgot about it.
	He did. He did. Bro, remember he came out, was it his dad who came out and basically said he was paid to be anti-Trump?
	I'm not sure about that, but I remember watching him also.
	Bro, I gotta find an article because I remember covering that story like, what the fuck?
	Because it was like, Ben Shapiro was on a vendetta at one point.
	Oh, he was as anti-Trump.
	And that's the thing. I think that there was a difference.
	And even now, I think there is a difference in that candidate.
	I'll say this. You know, DeSantis' guy was just at Bilderberg, his main funder.
	And you can't say that about Trump.
	But at the same time, when Trump got in, his first Bilderberg, 2017, littered with his own dudes.
	You know, Peter Thiel, McMasters, Liddell.
	I mean, again, littered.
	So you can't ignore that.
	I'm wondering... If you saw the story, now that we're talking about Russiagate a little, about Douglas Mackey, a.k.a.
	Ricky Vaughn, which was the meme story where they said they put him in jail for that meme where you texted your vote to Hillary Clinton.
	I haven't seen the story, but I remember the original.
	All right. So...
	That wasn't really what the case was about.
	What it was about was taking down the Russian network that wasn't Russia that actually did help Trump get elected.
	So they told us Russia, Russia bots.
	They released that GRU paper where they named names and said these guys were...
	And the Facebook ads, which was like $100,000.
	Remember that? And all of that obviously didn't prove any kind of large Russian network.
	Instead... It was a group, which was Douglas Mackey, and that's why they went after him, who was Ricky Vaughn.
	If you ever saw those memes of Ricky Vaughn with the crazy eyes that were going viral, they were everywhere.
	So he was Ricky Vaughn.
	He's the one they just gave 10 years ago to.
	Do you know what they allowed to convict him?
	What was that? They brought in a gentleman, and I say this very lightly, gentleman, because none of these people are gentlemen, called Microchip, who they let testify against him.
	Okay? Hold on, it gets better.
	Undercover as Microchip without giving his name or identity.
	It gets better than that. Okay?
	This is the guy that was the Russians with Mackie and another person named Makani in the MAGA 3X group.
	Let me read you something from this BuzzFeed article from 2017.
	R.I.P. Wait till you see it.
	It's... It's amazing.
	Indeed, in a national atmosphere charged by unproven accusations about massive networks of Russian social media influence, the story of how Microchip helped build the most notorious pro-Trump Twitter network seems almost mundane.
	Less a technology-daunting intelligence operation than a clever patchworking of tools nearly any computer-literate person could manage.
	It also suggests that some of the current Russian Trumpbot hysteria may be, well, a hysteria.
	It's all us, not the Russians, Microchip said, and we're not going to stop.
	So it gets better.
	That's very confusing. So that testimony...
	That's not testimony. Hold on, that's not testimony.
	So let me explain that.
	That's an article from 2017, okay?
	And Politico did one on him in 2015.
	So listen, in 2018, and we only know this because of the Mackie trial, He becomes a federal informant.
	In that same year, he also claims that he helped start QAnon at DEF CON with Dreamcatcher, a.k.a.
	James Brower, and possibly Defango as they're all in the logs.
	I had Defango and Brower on my program in January of 2019 by the time Microchip, who was supposed to come on, and didn't.
	Okay. Was an FBI informant.
	Now the piece you can watch where microchip claims that they started QAnon is Posobiec and it's on OAN. You can watch it.
	My point is they still charged him microchip after the fact with unknown charges.
	So they made him an informant by 2018.
	2021 they charged him and now they're using him as a witness against the actual network that was effective online.
	Isn't that how these things work? He wants to get out of jail, right?
	Well, I don't know that he's even in jail.
	I mean, it's called a plea deal.
	I mean, you know, you reduce some of your time for good behavior.
	In other words, make up some bullshit about the person we're trying to prosecute so that that person can go to jail and you can get less time.
	And we all look like we did our jobs.
	I mean, that's the justice system.
	But it's crazy to me.
	The big difference to me is that they're making this person anonymous when even in like mafioso trials, they don't do that till after the fact.
	You know who's testifying against the other person?
	How do you face your accuser when they're an anonymous online troll and you don't even get to know who they are and you know they flip gears?
	Because credibility is such a major factor when it comes to prosecuting somebody, like the legitimacy of their testimony.
	So like, you can't be anonymous.
	But this is like, once again, it goes back to what I was saying, Jason, like, I don't believe in our justice system or the U.S. justice system.
	I do not believe it's legitimate because...
	And that doesn't change because they're prosecuting a conservative or a liberal for that matter.
	Like, if they get it right, it was on accident.
	It is an anomaly.
	It is not the norm. And this is just another example.
	They will manipulate and manipulate and manipulate until they get...
	I mean, remember when they rearrested Chelsea Manning?
	You remember that? I do.
	I do. And they just kept her in jail because she wouldn't engage in Double Jeopardy, basically.
	It was a weird one, man.
	And then they just let her go. She never cooperated, and then they just let her go.
	And that was a weird one because you don't- She was getting her life back together, and they just ruined it.
	They tried to ruin it again to the point where now she's basically terrified of engaging in public.
	Like, because every time she gets some traction and people start to look at her story and look closely at her story, like the mainstream, the public, they do that type of shit to her.
	Like, that is what I'm talking about when I say I don't trust the justice system.
	Maybe politicians get protected from Double Jeopardy or the elite politicians, those from the DOC, the Democratic Leadership Council, but you don't get protection from that shit.
	They're going to, they will come up with some other bullshit to justify entrenching you in that system, and they will make it too expensive for you to escape.
	Like, that's what it comes down to.
	And at this point, Trump isn't even an exception to that rule.
	He's a billionaire. He was a former president.
	Well, now we're in a position where former presidents, like, you know, back in the day, Jason, you used to be able to be protected by those little cute titles.
	The Q titles. You know what I'm saying?
	They're not legitimate titles.
	We know that. But you were supposed to have a certain level of amnesty if you ever did achieve that goal of gaining one of those Q titles.
	And now we're learning that even presidents...
	If you don't play the game and you just so happen to fall into that position, you're not even exempt from that.
	Everybody in the U.S. can be prosecuted.
	Hell, look at the science.
	You don't have to be in the U.S. anymore.
	Not only that, and that's the thing, that's the irony of Trump, is that he had an opportunity to To drop those charges, get rid of the DOJ going after them.
	And imagine! Imagine, Jason!
	Exactly. He ran on Love the WikiLeaks.
	Have you seen the WikiLeaks?
	All that stuff. He sends Rohrabacher over there.
	He doesn't get what he wants, which is he wants Assange to come out and give up his source for the DNC emails to show it wasn't hacked by the Russians, which it wasn't.
	This was a download dump.
	Yeah, it wasn't. Obviously, he said, I am a journalist.
	And think about that for the integrity of Assange, everybody.
	This guy at this time still isn't even in Belmarsh.
	He's in the Ecuadorian embassy, and he's got an out.
	You come to the United States.
	You come and testify this.
	Maybe he thought that was too dangerous, too.
	I don't know. But he says no.
	Trump feels snuck. Yeah, I mean, shit.
	When you still have to deal with Pompeo and those boys, he's like, yeah, Trump may want the best for me, but he has no control over his administration.
	He just doesn't know it yet. That's right.
	Well, for whatever reason, he didn't play that ball.
	And honestly, for me at that time, you know, there's other leaks that come out that are important during the Trump administration, a.k.a.
	the OPCW documents and Duma.
	That's the big thing that the chemical attacks.
	Oh, yeah. And that's him being in Ecuador.
	So, like, he remains journalistically, you know, has integrity, period.
	Accountable. Like, he believes in the creed.
	That's right. And that's a big fucking deal, everybody.
	That's a big deal.
	So when Trump and his son allegedly, through the Fairbanks reporting, and Fairbanks, Cassandra was taping Rick Grinnell's assistant, And a lot of this came out through that and basically said that Donald and Donald Jr.
	were shown photographs of men, women, and children that had been supposedly killed because of Assange leaks.
	However, they explained that or whatever.
	It's never been proven in court.
	In fact, quite the opposite that the press put more people in danger by revealing names from leaked documents than Assange did himself.
	Hillary did, too, through her servers.
	100%. Everybody keeps forgetting about that, but whatever.
	I mean, I don't forget about it.
	Hey, Jason, I have a question for you.
	Sure. It's probably a little bit more down to earth, but did you see that video that I posted about the vet who was literally crying because he's retired, but he has a lot of mental health issues?
	I did watch that video.
	Actually, I did watch that video.
	Yes. Bro. How do you feel about it?
	So I posted that video and it got obviously a lot of traction.
	It got like 2 million views so far.
	And I'm glad it did because some people think that it's like me.
	So first of all, to premise, I'm a vet.
	For those of you who don't know, I'm an army vet.
	And I actually basically explained to my command that I'm not deploying because I didn't want to end up like that.
	I didn't want to join the military.
	So I need people to understand that.
	I was poor. My family was poor.
	I had no way out and I just had to finesse my way because life is real despite what these motherfuckers online will try to tell you.
	We live in an empire and people try to just get it how you live.
	That's how it works in the empire, unfortunately.
	You do your best to navigate it within the circumstances.
	I don't know this guy's backstory completely.
	But I do know that that is a shining example of what happens if you play the Empire's game.
	So let's talk about the video for the audience.
	So you basically have this vet who is talking about coming back after seeing tragedy after tragedy in the Middle East where he served.
	And him having mental health issues, PTSD the whole night.
	And look, he talks about briefly the types of medications that he's on and that, you know, it's up and down and they're upping the doses here and there.
	But he talks about basically the instability of what he's given via the VA and who's going to work with him and why they're going to work with him, etc.
	And he even discussed how...
	He keeps changing doctors and some doctors supposedly don't want to work with him anymore.
	That's the important thing. He finds somebody he likes...
	For whatever reason, through the bureaucracy, that gets pulled.
	He finally felt like he had connected with somebody.
	And as he says later, it's very hard to just start over and start going through all this initial trauma again when you think you've worked through it with somebody.
	By the way, that's happened to me before.
	Because I have PTSD too, something totally separate.
	It's military related, but I watched one of my friends die in basic training.
	Directly due to a drill sergeant's actions.
	And as I'm experiencing this therapy, the therapist is basically getting screwed over by the VA. And so she has to start a separate practice.
	Which is, luckily I could afford it.
	However, if I was this guy, he's like, what the fuck?
	And then, like you said, that person that he liked, after, I think he said, almost two years of struggling to get back with that person, that person was no longer interested in working with him.
	Which, again, who knows what his problems were.
	Maybe he felt like, I'm not even putting it on the doctor.
	I'm putting it on the system that initially took that away.
	And then two years later, he still can't reconnect with a little bit of hope.
	And I don't... Listen, bottom line is, I'm not going to sit here and act like I've ever had that type of trauma, like watch somebody die that was close to me in front of me or had to do horrific things or things that are morally unethical in my mind in another country.
	That's got to be extremely difficult.
	To just tell somebody, well, he talked about it.
	You're a Marine. Keep it inside.
	Shut up. Move on. Move forward.
	Next day.
	That's not really possible when you have those type of traumatic experiences.
	I'm not even sitting here claiming to have all the answers to that.
	But I can certainly tell you that the answer is not to have this...
	Awful system of inconsistency in both the drugs and the doctors for those who are supposed to be our quote-unquote best and bravest.
	Nico? I feel like it's also an opportunity to discuss the elephant in the room, right?
	Because there's a high likelihood that he probably killed or took an innocent life while he was overseas.
	It's probably why he feels the way he does.
	Does that excuse his actions?
	Absolutely not. However, if he participates, sees all the stuff that he saw and doesn't do what he's supposed to do, then he just gets dishonorably discharged.
	We're not even having this conversation.
	He's probably... Homeless on the street somewhere and still going through this.
	He can't even afford a cell phone to make that video.
	I don't know his financial background from his childhood, but what I can say is that what he did was wrong if he participated in any type of unjust murder.
	I mean, I can make a moral argument that joining the military At all is a problem.
	I joined, and I was legal, so I actually held people accountable for fucking up overseas.
	That's what my job was.
	However, I was still in some ways enabling that system to exist.
	And so I have an argument that I can make morally that it's just wrong to be a part of the military.
	I need people to understand something.
	Life is not black and white.
	Like, it is very difficult living outside of the empire and being a victim of the empire.
	But at the same time, living within the empire is not like all shits and giggles.
	And I need people to understand.
	Because every country, every major player on, like, you know, whether it be the Ottoman Empire, the Portuguese Empire, I mean, like, Spanish Empire, UK, everybody has been part of an empire.
	Like, at some point, your people have benefited in some way, form, or fashion from some type of empire.
	However, it is easy to reflect and look at the highest heights, but you don't know what it's like to live in a slum.
	It's like Star Wars.
	They talk about that all the time.
	Like, yeah, you see Coruscant, you see all these flying cars and these beautiful lights and the city planet, but they rarely show you the slums of Coruscant until you start watching the shows.
	And seeing how shitty it really is and what kind of a toll the empire takes on the people living inside of it.
	You really can't escape it.
	It's almost lucky if you're one of those people who finds a way like myself.
	I live in Brazil now and I finessed my way into the position I'm in right now.
	But the odds are most of the people in my neighborhood did not.
	The people I grew up around did not.
	And that's just reality.
	We need to show Compassion and empathy.
	And Jason talks about this a lot.
	I know I talk about this a lot on my shows.
	Like, we need to show compassion and empathy because it's, yeah, being killed almost feels like mercy at times.
	So there are a lot of people who kill themselves because they feel like death is mercy.
	Because compared to the pain of reliving every single day of I completely violated my moral code, my family looks at me differently.
	The world now Imagine being, remember, it was cool being a troop in 2003 where everybody was screaming, I support the troops.
	We were getting military discounts everywhere.
	The US was, you know, you just knew that you felt appreciated because you just knew you were doing the right thing.
	We don't live in that world anymore. We live in a world where we're having record low recruitments.
	Well, we live in a world where they got drag queens in naval outfits thinking that's going to somehow appeal to people joining the military.
	But I think a lot of that is because, again, they're pushing the automation, the transhumanism.
	They want more of that. They want more of the track trace database.
	Get rid of identity. They want to get rid of your identity, bro.
	That's what it comes down to.
	When you don't have an identity, you're more susceptible to being coerced.
	Well, think about that. It almost goes back to that victim mentality we're talking about across the board for human beings, no matter who you are and where you're from, is that sense that is pushed upon us that you are small, that you are insignificant, that you really can't make a change.
	And there's so many people, when you tell them your thoughts and dreams, they tell you that you can't do that, right?
	And that does take a certain amount of perseverance to understand that You are somebody that's important.
	You can build and create yourself rather than let other people build and create you and tell you why and how you're going to be happy.
	And so many people, I think, get a taste of that through some type of endorphin response through acceptance, right?
	Whether it be on social media or a group at a job or some kind of sports.
	Political parties or religion.
	Exactly.
	Social distancing now.
	They're not examining what actually truly can sustain their happiness and understanding
	that it's not smiles and sunshine all the time and everywhere.
	And just because you're enjoying yourself now and you've set up something, like you
	said, finessed yourself, it's an everyday struggle to keep that up and hopefully get
	better.
	And it's not like- 100%.
	It's not like, hey, everything's gravy train with biscuit wheels from now on.
	There's always going to be obstacles in life.
	Period. I mean, Jason, I know a lot of people follow you now and everything that you've said is basically coming to fruition.
	But even yourself, the things that you're saying now are not different from what you were saying 10 years ago.
	The difference is people are willing to accept them because you were right and everything is coming to fruition.
	But they don't know, like, before you would have been considered an arbitrage, whether it be from liberals or conservatives, because you refused to be a part of that limited hangout.
	And in a lot of ways, back in the day, whenever I was telling people, like, yo, guys, Bernie might be full of shit, and we need to accept this now, and start moving past that.
	And people, leftists, were attacking me as a conservative.
	I mean, bro, people call me Nazi.
	People literally call me Nazi, which is crazy.
	I had to tell one dude, like, yo, if you call me a Nazi again, I'm going to smack the fuck out of you.
	At a certain point, I'm not going to let your white ass call me a Nazi.
	And he called me a Nazi for being willing to work with and talk to conservatives, and then he goes and starts a podcast with the conservatives because he realized, oh shit, if I talk to conservatives and say some cool MAGA stuff, then people like me.
	Because that's what it comes down to for everybody.
	I don't care about being accepted, therefore I am a problem.
	That's the thing, man. You don't care about people's acceptance?
	Well, doesn't that mean you're much more likely to just be honest for the sake of being honest?
	Well, yeah. Oh, hell no.
	You will see a concerted effort to blackball anybody who thinks like myself or thinks like Jason or even, you know, for his good and his bad, Alex Jones or Owen or any of those type of people, Pasta, Fiorella, anybody who refuses to walk that line.
	You will see people black them out.
	You will see people smear them.
	And it isn't even because they're wrong.
	It isn't because they're right. It isn't because...
	Like, of that other person's moral code.
	Fuck that. It has nothing to do with it.
	It's because you could expose me just by being yourself.
	And I can't have that.
	That's what it comes down to.
	Well, again, we're going to ask tough questions, right?
	So, you know, we got about, I think, 12 more minutes before we got to end the show.
	What do you think of RFK Jr.?
	Now, I had an interesting conversation with Derek Brose, right?
	Because, you know, RFK Jr.
	is certainly saying a lot of the right things.
	There are people on the right that don't like his former stances on climate change, and they're worried about a carbon system, despite the fact he's talking about the WEF. But Brose had a really interesting question that he wants to ask him if he gets him on the show, and that he was in the Epstein Black Book.
	And nobody's brought that up with him yet.
	Yeah, the original black book.
	Now, look, I don't think that everybody in that black book was connected.
	But at the same time, obviously that would make him aware of Epstein and possibly be in those circles.
	I think that we are owed what that is, especially in the light that Whitney Webb was right, everybody.
	Again, Whitney Webb was right.
	You could just say that.
	That's always going to be true.
	Whatever the subject is, Whitney Webb was right.
	Yeah. Winnie Webb was right, and we now have that story of Bill Gates possibly being extorted by Epstein for his affair with a 20-year-old Russian bridge player.
	Did you see that? Yeah, I'm sure that's the worst thing, that Bill Gates could be extorted by Epstein, right?
	Like, that's a fucking red herring.
	Anyway, go ahead. Sorry. Well, whether or not it is, it shows that the blackmail is there.
	It shows that it spans not just the Republicans, but the Democrats.
	Yeah. It's both sides, right?
	I sit there, I talk about Hassert as a Speaker of the House, and Foley, and then we can talk about Wiener on the other side.
	It's all there in front of us.
	What are your thoughts? Well, I kind of got on a skew, but what are your thoughts on the RFK run for the presidency up until now?
	And with that revelation, what are your thoughts with the Epstein thing that keeps...
	I mean, that Virgin Islands case is a big case, and it's making a lot of revelations.
	Another hero of the left exposed, Chomsky.
	Which, by the way, I wasn't surprised by it.
	I don't like Chomsky. I have not liked Chomsky for quite some time, and he's full of shit.
	So there's that. Also, on the other side of that fence, so with RFK Jr., really quick, did you know that Spongebob on his driver's license has a fucking address to Epstein Island?
	No, it does not.
	Swear to fucking God, bro.
	I swear to God. I got to look to you.
	Send me that and I'll retweet that.
	And we put that one out today. Bro, it's on IG. I'm going to send it to you.
	I'm going to send it to you. This shit was crazy. So, yeah.
	Okay, anyway. So, I believe that RFK Jr.
	is a Kennedy. And I also do believe that he's naive.
	And I do believe it's just like with Trump.
	It is Epstein's job to get him in that black book.
	However, with his stances against vaccines, or at least for making sure that we research and become a little bit more sure about how vaccines are operating within our bodies, our temples, I don't think that he actually succumbed to any of the extortion or potential extortion attempts that were made by Epstein.
	That's a huge possibility.
	Could he be guilty? I mean, yeah, he could be.
	But I think that if they had something on RFK, They would have come out with it by now.
	I feel like that.
	Or perhaps they do have something and he's terrified of it releasing and he's playing his part, which we won't find out until later.
	Bro, I feel like there's just so many people that woke up to the damage of the COVID vaccines because of RFK that it would be hard to believe that they wouldn't have dropped it then.
	Right? That's what I believe.
	So, also, his presidential run.
	It concerns me a little bit, right?
	Having CIA literally in his campaign.
	Who's that? I don't know.
	I get it.
	RFK seems like that type of person who's fiercely loyal.
	He believes in the best of people.
	It's just who he is.
	It could be one of his biggest flaws.
	I know Tulsi was like that.
	Tulsi's one of those people who was fiercely loyal.
	And he believed that people deserve a second chance to prove themselves.
	And that could be him.
	However, it's still problematic because I need you to be...
	You can be loyal, but I don't need you to be naive.
	Just because you're loyal to her doesn't mean that she needs to be loyal to you.
	If she's a double agent, she could have been planted in your camp, in your family, long before you even thought that was a possibility, sir.
	And that's the scary thing.
	I know somebody, Jason, whose mom was a honeypot from the moment that her dad stepped on the island of Trinidad.
	And she had no idea until the day her mother died.
	We found out that her dad's a CIA agent.
	We found that part out.
	Actually, I found it out just by asking a bunch of questions and I figured it out.
	Oh shit, your dad's CIA agent.
	It's crazy that you didn't know that. So, she thought the whole time that her mom was just an innocent victim and all of this.
	Like, she's so naive.
	Like, I just feel so bad for her because she doesn't know the truth about my dad.
	Turns out, bro, fucking mom was in on it the whole time.
	It was probably, like, the people that she was connected to were the ones giving the fucking orders.
	So, like, you don't know until you know.
	And he couldn't find out at the worst possible time.
	How long were they married? Bro, what?
	So my friend is about 60 years old.
	I'm going to put it like that. So this is like, he was responsible for some coups in the Caribbean.
	I'm going to put it like that.
	I can't go into specific details.
	But he was responsible for some coups.
	Multiple, actually. Interesting.
	But she thought that the mom was an innocent victim in all this.
	And she was like, she was the one who brought him into the fold.
	What are your thoughts? You know, again, we only got a few more minutes left.
	Everybody needs to go follow at Nico House, right?
	That's the main one.
	Real Nico House. Real Nico House.
	Real Nico House.
	What are your thoughts on the migration issue?
	Because I see it being thrown around again.
	Left, right, talking points.
	It's worse than they say.
	It's not as bad as they say.
	Title 42. Okay.
	Yeah, what are your thoughts on that?
	Let me just say this, Jason.
	And we talk about this all the time.
	Conservatives. If you don't want migrants coming into the country and doing what you think that they're doing, then tell your fucking leaders to stop invading their countries, to stop overthrowing their governments, to stop destroying their economies via NAFTA in other ways.
	Leave them the fuck alone.
	I can tell you from...
	I meet Brazilians all the time who are like, I don't want to leave Brazil, bro.
	They don't want to leave.
	They love their country.
	They love the culture. They love the people.
	In fact, the ones who moved to the States, My second major was Brazilian Portuguese.
	She was from Rio, and she would say at the time, I miss Brazil so much.
	I was like, well, why don't you just move back?
	She said, I can't. I have to support my family.
	And the only reason she's there is because of the economy that is up and down that we are responsible for destroying and corrupting.
	It's our fault. Brazil's problems are literally our fault.
	They have so many potential exports.
	And you know, we limit the WTO, which is effectively the United States.
	We limit them to exporting exclusively sugarcane for the most part.
	That's it. That is our fault.
	I don't care which side of the migration argument, oh, illegal immigrants are a problem.
	Like, no, most of the illegal immigrants pay taxes, right?
	This is a fact.
	Most of them pay taxes.
	Like, the shit that's going on in Florida with DeSantis, that's culture war bullshit.
	He is falling victim to social media clout, which is very disappointing to see because I felt like DeSantis had so much potential.
	But he completely misunderstands what made Trump so popular in 2016.
	Trump wasn't engaging in cultural war bullshit during that election, and people seem to forget that.
	See, Bannon was smarter than that.
	He argued for populist policies from the perspective of a conservative and offered a legitimate alternative to the conservative part.
	He didn't come out and try to sound more Ted Cruz than Ted Cruz.
	I hate Ted Cruz. I hate him so much, bro.
	He just shakes everything about him.
	I don't hate anybody. So naturally greasy.
	He's just a greasy motherfucker. I mean, he does look like Grandpa Munster.
	His dad, you know, I'm not here to bash Ted Cruz.
	But no, seriously, some of you are like, oh man, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
	Are bringing in or allowing more or facilitating more illegal immigration?
	Possibly. Probably.
	Because everybody who is involved, both Democrats and Republicans, in those facilities that they lock those immigrants up in, I mean, the one in Florida makes them $277 per kid per day.
	And Democrats and Republicans still on that board of that particular one.
	And that's how it is all over the country.
	And they also know that this is a controversial issue, just like abortion.
	You can argue about immigration. You can argue about abortion.
	And instead of paying attention to the fact that they're literally putting fucking mRNA vaccines in animals that you're about to eat, that's what you're going to talk about instead.
	So how about we just say, you know what?
	I don't want to hear your immigration.
	Everybody just stopped and said, we're not going to hear about your immigration argument until you start talking about how you're going to not interfere in other people's business.
	And then we can finally have that conversation to figure out if immigration is genuinely a problem or if it is just another manufactured problem to distract us from the real issues.
	Well, you know, I'd say parallel to that, where I'd say I'm in even more agreement, is when we talk about drugs in the cartel.
	Because obviously, you know, it was proven during Iran-Contra, we're running the drug trade.
	We're... Duh!
	This does work into the sustainability goals.
	This is just on migration in the 2030 agenda put out by the World Economic Forum.
	It sells you on this idea that if you do question the policy that's currently in place, obviously you're a bigot.
	When they talk about no poverty, right?
	Then they're talking about the equalizations of the haves and the have-nots.
	But in reality, we're always going to have the have-everythings and the little bureaucratic minions that are at that upper echelon in the public face.
	That's a problem. Table scrap. I mean, again, that's a problem that you're not addressing at the infrastructure of the issue.
	Okay, you want a wall.
	I guess we're going to have to start dealing the crack, cocaine, and everything else that's illegal.
	And stop allowing ICE to traffic little girls that it snatches at the border.
	Like, nobody wants to talk about that.
	Everybody keeps talking about human trafficking and, oh, it's those Mexicans human trafficking.
	Bro, no, because ICE catches all the kids.
	They say, oh, sorry, your aunt is an illegal guardian according to these laws that we just made up yesterday.
	Like, so we're going to take your daughter and she's going to get lost in the system because she doesn't know how to speak English and she doesn't have a lawyer.
	Nico, this has been a kick-ass, hour-long conversation.
	Tell everybody what you got going on, where they can find you, and I just want to say it's been great catching up.
	Again, I didn't even get to every subject I want to talk to you about, so hopefully we'll do it soon.
	Do we ever, man? We never do, but hey, man, definitely going to come back on again soon.
	So I got a new podcast that's dropping on Thursday on Rockfin.
	Primarily, and then the next day, it'll be released on other platforms.
	It's called For The People Podcast, where we'll be talking about politics, pop culture, everything under the sun, and basically showing how it's all interconnected, having a good time talking about that stuff with cool guests.
	Hopefully, Jason will be one of them.
	I'm also on Twitter, at RealNekoHouse, on Instagram, at RealNekoHouse, and on TikTok as well, at RealNekoHouse.
	You can follow me there. Brother, thank you so much.
	My audience, I love you guys.
	I'm glad you came over to the second hour.
	And we will see you on the flip side.
	Not about left or right, everybody.
	Always about right and wrong.

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