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May 2, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
01:55:05
No Shame! The Springer Society Jerry Built

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Good morning, good morning.
It is Reality Rance.
I am Jason Burmes.
This is Red Voice Media.
And today, I'm going to take you back in time to a little place called the 90s.
Shifts in the 90s 00:15:33
And I got to admit, despite having a multitude of obstacles, at least in my opinion, as a kid becoming a young man during that era, I still look on it extremely fondly.
Extremely fondly.
Maybe that's because of my innocence.
But I certainly saw a shift in society.
Some for the better, some for the worse, in my opinion.
Just saying.
Although the shift for the better during the 90s, I'm just going to say, felt more real.
There didn't seem to be a lot of negative things going on, in my opinion, at the time from that perspective, especially pre-9-11.
And a young Jason Burmese, I know we played a clip from like, I don't know, four, maybe five years ago yesterday.
Everybody was commenting on how young I looked.
Yeah, the last four or five years have been rough on old JB.
You know, he looked like a younger man back then.
Not so much anymore.
The miles are coming on.
The grays aren't as easy to hide, you know, with the hair gel.
But, you know, you put the hair gel in, you got the salt and pepper.
It's the cloony look I've always talked about.
Only now we got a little giblet here I got to get rid of.
You know, and all my fault, by the way.
All my fault.
But in the mid-90s in particular, into the late 90s when I was in college, Jerry Springer was a huge phenomenon.
And I was guilty as charged.
I love Jerry Springer.
I couldn't get enough of it.
It was my kind of trash television.
Now, I want people to understand this.
Obviously, my crowd's a little older, so you're going to get this, but reality TV really hadn't launched yet.
Okay, you had the makings of it with MTV and the real world.
There were some game shows that started to come on the scene very late 90s.
I remember Love Island or Temptation Island or one of those stupid things.
Like, people didn't really understand how scripted a lot of talk shows were.
You kind of thought they were all the same thing.
And obviously, Jerry Springer was not the same thing.
And although some of it was real, most of it was fake and produced.
And when I learned that was kind of like a big scandal people don't talk about with the Springer show.
Lots of scandals in Jerry's life, by the way.
Jerry's a politician.
Jerry got caught, I believe, when he was the mayor of Cincinnati, writing a check to a prostitute.
Later on, during the Springer show, there was a sex tape controversy where one of his guests, who I believe was in porn and her mother or stepmother, taped Jerry, you know, after an encounter in the hotel with them.
The guy had those type of scandals going on.
Okay.
And Springer was also on the talk radio circuit in the beginning of the Air America days when the left was trying to really take on what is prominently conservative radio, right?
Even the independent talk stuff.
Like, it's tough for Jason Burmes to get on terrestrial radar.
Just saying.
Be another goal of this show, right?
To simulcast or have them take the show and then rerun it later at night, audio form.
Great.
Until then, we'll pay for the pod bean, folks.
You can bean it up.
You can listen to it live.
We'll end up taking calls once we get big enough.
But I feel like you got to have on the bean listen alone 500 to 1,000 people.
We're way away from that on the live streams to start taking calls and whatnot.
Back to Springer.
Springer was appealing because when I grew up, the biggest thing really out there, especially when you got home from school that wasn't cartoons, was daytime talk shows.
Right?
And this is the era, I'm out of school by 3, 3.30.
And Phil Donahue, Sally Jesse Raphael, and the queen to boot, Oprah Winfrey.
Daytime Talk made Oprah Winfrey.
In fact, Daytime Talk was so big that people like Oz and Dr. Phil, who went on Oprah Winfrey, got their own talk shows.
All right.
So there was a stark contrast between that and what you would see on Jerry Springer, right?
I guess the gap bridge would be like Maury, you know, had the who's the baby, who's the father?
And there was a little bit of that on Springer.
But Springer was really about being shameless.
And that's the next part of this that I want to get into.
And that's where we part ways.
Like, Jerry was an icon.
He was, you know, what I wanted to put out there for his death was the fact that he was in what?
Austin Powers 3, which may be the funniest one.
They're all pretty funny.
But Austin Powers 3 has that really big intro, all the stars, all that stuff.
In fact, we didn't play yesterday the Schwarzenegger, the Scharzeneger Danny DeVito White House intro.
Maybe we'll get to that today.
I don't know.
I've got a bunch of clips and I want to do a watch along with the Commonwealth Club and the lessons learned from the COVID war, the war.
So when I now look back on Jerry Springer, I realize it really is the emergence of the shameless victimhood society, where there is no longer any pride in keeping your mouth shut and your business to yourself.
Everybody should have a megaphone.
Everybody should get out there.
Everybody should get their 15 minutes of fame, right?
It really doesn't matter for what.
And that was the overarching message, in my opinion, of that show.
And it got me to thinking about the word shame in the first place.
And this is a distinct memory.
And this is pre-Springer, by the way.
And boy, I got to tell you guys, I watched Springer religiously.
Like, by the time he started getting big when I was in college, 97, 98, you could watch a three to four hour block of Jerry because it was syndicated on so many channels.
So many channels.
By the way, died of fast acting, I believe, pancreatic cancer.
You get that diagnosis.
That's a tough one to beat.
So it brought me back to a conversation I had with my grandmother.
Now, my grandmother wasn't around.
She was the first of my grandparents to go, you know, but really gone by my early teen years, somewhere in there.
And, you know, my grandmother was so good to me as a kid.
I really have nothing but fond memories of both her and my grandfather.
Like awesome grandparents to me.
You know, that's where I got my passion maybe for cooking.
I talk about that, especially Italian stuff, watching my grandmother cook and the Italian meatballs, the whole stereotypical nine.
Okay.
And just kind of out of nowhere, I have no idea what I was doing.
No idea what I was watching.
Probably oblivious.
Probably watching something or saying something maybe that she didn't like.
I have no clue.
But she looked at me and she goes, you know, the problem with society right now, and it's, you know, I'm a kid.
And she goes, it's not, you know, just your generation, but your parents' generation.
And even, you know, maybe a little bit older than that, because my mom, you know, she's like 16 years older than me.
She goes, no one has any shame anymore.
She goes, at all.
No one's ashamed when they mess up or they do something wrong.
They boast about it.
They brag about it.
You know, it's not hidden away.
They're not trying to improve themselves.
And she's like, when you have that type of society, things fall apart.
And I was like, man, that's pretty profound, Grandma.
Like, I still think about it to this day.
And we should have shame, right?
None of us are perfect.
And there'll be, I guess, psychologists out there and people for your mental health that would totally disagree with that.
You have no reason to be ashamed of this behavior or this thought process or this action.
Bullshit.
I'm sorry.
Inherently, there is a good.
Inherently, there is an evil.
I truly believe that.
And I'm not trying, again, not here to get biblical, not Mr. Preacher Man.
But at its core, most of us get that, right?
It's not a big question, is it?
That good and evil exists.
People do wrong.
And some people embrace that.
Or I don't care.
But then the next thing is, you look at the Springer thing.
Only do I not care about it, I should be celebrated for it.
And that's what Jerry Springer really brought out like.
Again, a lot of those guests were some of his producers, a lot of the goofier stuff.
So much of it wasn't true.
But then you also see back in the day the people that wanted to be dressed like babies adult, the adult baby thing that's.
That's making a big comeback.
I'll never forget watching that on Jerry.
NOW that was kind of on some of these other talk shows like Phil Donahue and etc., etc.
Had a little more gravitas.
But Jerry would really play into like the adult baby thing, you know, the I didn't know she was a man thing.
That was another big one.
I have a surprise for you.
It's like, really?
You have a surprise?
And they'd act surprised.
That should have given it away for me.
So the shame thing, something to think about.
That's profound.
There's another angle on this that I want to talk about as well.
And that's the pro wrestling aspect of it.
That's the Ringmaster Jerry, right?
Because at its core, I think Jerry was a pretty liberal guy, but, you know, liberal in the sense that he allowed free speech, even if he disagreed with you.
Might have fallen off the rocker at the end.
You know, he was encouraging people to, and he did do that, folks.
I'm just going to say, he's got a video on it.
We'll probably have to play that video in the second hour, as everybody knows.
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The pro wrestling aspect is something that I didn't get of life.
And Jerry Springer kind of like lifted the veil, right?
Like because you didn't have all the reality TV of the take one, take two, take three, because I was a teenager, I didn't know anybody in the industry, you know, because I believed the magic flashing box all the time, right?
Because of those things, I was really adept to believing a lot of what was on the television, that red and blue mattered and the Republicans and Democrats were different things in politics.
And when you start to see things other than pro wrestling getting the veil lifted back, especially with Springer, I think that kind of prepped me for understanding 9-11 and that pro wrestling game, period.
Like, I really do believe that.
When you start finding out, oh my goodness, these talk shows are rigged.
Is the news rigged too?
These reality shows are rigged.
Is the news rigged two?
Well, I can tell you it is.
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So let's wrap it up with Jerry.
I just want to go over a few things.
And then, like I said, on the premium portion of the broadcast, we'll play this clip where he says, tabloid talk host discusses having, you know, what, and I swear by getting the you know what.
In fact, here he is right here on the 21st of September, September 22nd.
Actually, yeah, 22nd and 23rd.
Well, we'll play the TikTok and that afterwards.
IBM and Moderna's Quantum Computing Collaboration 00:08:21
Now, I'm not making any inferences here.
We could talk about that on the other side.
We can't talk about it here.
79 years old, obviously no spring chicken.
Not like the guy was a bodybuilder.
Okay.
Throwing those things up, but he had a huge influence on society.
I'm going to remember him fondly.
I'll be honest.
And he was one of those guys.
Air America had a few people on it.
I think Mike Molloy was one of them in particular.
That after they saw Loose Change, it was undeniable, undeniable that we had been lied to about 9-11.
And other people like Jerry just never could get there.
No, They wanted to keep you in that box.
And it's funny.
Yesterday we talked about Noam Chomsky and now his relationship to Epstein and how, in my opinion, the litmus test was 9-11 and those that really had a good look at it and had the history like Chomsky and not only denied there was anything to 9-11 truth, but actively helped smear it.
That was the litmus test.
El Garbahijo.
El Garbajo.
And I've got a clip that I'm going to play later on.
It's going to go along with this story.
So we might as well just jump into this one because it's, to me, an important one.
See how we do it a little different here?
We do it a little different.
We don't just grab every headline or every viral video that's out there that everybody else is talking about.
There's a place for that.
You know, I had people that wanted me to comment on the Crowder situation.
I guess before I do this, I'll do that really quickly.
I don't care.
You mean a guy that was getting divorced from his wife was having marital issues?
Like, I watched that three-minute, I can't believe he would treat his pregnant wife that way.
I'm not defending him at all, by the way.
I'm just saying, you know, I've seen way worse in relationships.
I've seen way more physical and psychological abuse than that, up close and personal.
Doesn't shock me people act that way behind closed doors.
I know it's stunning because, like, he's a conservative or whatever, but quite frankly, I don't have the time to really care about people that have tens of millions of dollars in their personal life because I don't give a rat's ass.
It's not what I'm trying to reach people's brains and activate them.
And it'd be great if I was activating people with the kind of resources that Crowder had.
Awesome.
But I need everybody, everybody, no matter what your socioeconomic status, to step on up, to step on up, to be their own hero.
You know, to separate the noise of left, right, conservative, liberal.
I hate you.
I hate you more.
You're bad.
You're worse.
Blah, And come together, man.
Like, so many people keep sending me RFK clips of him talking about how they should be putting people in jail if they don't share the same climate change views as him.
Terrible clip.
It's from 2014.
It's nine years ago, almost a decade ago.
I would hope that he's intelligent enough that he's now had the veil peeled back and he realizes what the agenda actually is of command and control via sustainability.
Sustainability.
The magic word.
And he would rebuke himself for that and say, look, I made a mistake.
I'm a human being.
It's enough for me.
It's enough for me.
We all make mistakes, right, guys?
I make mistakes.
But a mistake I won't make is backing the Moderna team up with IBM to put AI quantum computing to work on mRNA tech used in the you know WhatsAppies.
Now, if you look here, this was published like a week and a half ago, April 20th, 2023.
When I went to go find a clip about this, okay, I was looking just for, you know, I was figuring, hey, yeah, we're going to do the story.
And by the way, this story came from somebody who was in the Burmese Brigade, who was in my Twitter feed, who I think like last week sometime put up what I thought was a really, really cool thread with all these different articles on quantum computing, AI, and this bio-nanotech we're talking about.
And this is why we focus on all of them together because they do intertwine and they'll continue to intertwine.
All right.
Like last night, you know, I should look for this one, but they were talking about a surveillance system where these AI apps will now determine your mood.
They're going to have access to everything.
And oh, it's going to be great.
We're already there where algorithmic profiles have been built on the vast majority of us based in not only our online activity, but our geolocation, the words we use, the time we spend places, and really, I mean, they talked about in this, the tone of our voice and how happy we are.
All right.
So as I said, I was looking for a clip on this, and I found a clip, and the clip was two years old.
It was from March of 21.
So it's a really, really quick clip.
Let's see right here.
And we're going to play.
I mean, I mean, really, really quick.
Then we're going to read this because essentially, people need to understand that artificial intelligence is programmed by humans, humans, humans, humans.
They're human algorithms.
He who controls the AI controls the narrative.
So a lot of what you're being told is AI isn't true AI, period.
And we've seen that.
It's used to censor.
I just want to keep that in mind as we watch this.
And just a note tonight tech company IBM and Moderna, the pharmaceutical company, are joining forces in the race to speed up this vaccination process.
The two are looking to use artificial intelligence and blockchain, that's a data storing system, to help improve vaccine distribution.
Exciting stuff.
Oh, exciting stuff.
It's so exciting.
It's the most exciting.
It's super exciting.
So again, this is the modern article.
And they got the nice little Getty images, Moderna on your smartphone logo.
Yeah, clip art.
Way to go, Getty.
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Influence Over Influence 00:03:51
This is the biomedical techno-fascist society come to fruition to try to prey upon the shameless, those that desperately just want attention or unhappy, but want influence.
And I was thinking about another, you know, big pop culture term and wordplay the other day.
And that was the term influencer.
When I first got turned on to the term influencer, I didn't like it.
I still don't like it.
I think it's, you know, it's ridiculous.
Like, oh, are you one of those social media influencers?
I hope not.
Although, to me, the term actually shows you inherently how we're being lied to and manipulated as a society through these Bernesian talking points, right?
Because you're going to label people, mostly young people, okay, influencers.
So you're acknowledging that human beings can be coerced and that have influence over other people.
Some have called it undue influence in the past.
And like at the same time, you're being told that children can't be influenced about what they think their identity is or their gender is.
Like children weren't influenced back in the day to look at army men and fire trucks and astronauts as the things they wanted to be and the toys they wanted to play with or cowboys.
Of course that was influence.
And of course, not only children can be influenced, but we as adults are constantly being influenced, whether we like it or not.
Whether it's straightforward, zoom, right in there, or subliminally.
Subliminal advertising works.
It works on everybody on some level.
We are all susceptible.
And that's why another big thing to me is knowledge is power.
The more knowledge you have over these things, the less likely you are to succumb to their undue influence.
But it's all around us on every single level, in every single arena of society, in the shameless society, in the Springer society.
We have to acknowledge it.
But again, it's only cool to be a social media influencer.
There is no influence of them on your children.
And then there's this push, what?
To give children a type of autonomy never seen in civilized society ever.
Ever.
Not once.
Let me repeat that.
Not once in civilized society have we said that children can consent to the type of things that we're pushing across the board in this country and now the world through this United Nations transhumanist agenda.
We had some troll in there yesterday saying, Jason hates trans people.
I don't.
But I'm just telling you, the larger agenda is to get you to reject your biology as they take away parental rights and act like children can have the type of autonomy not only to reject their parents and no longer need guardians, right?
But basically alter their biology for the rest of their lives, like it or not.
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So, that thought, that thought was on this push for 16-year-olds to be able to vote.
16.
Okay?
Now, look, I understand that you want to integrate young people, people that are transitioning from a child to a teenager to an adult with different levels of responsibility along the way so they can grow.
And quite frankly, you know, there's that viral video of the two kids that look like they're 12, right?
Going, Republicans, we don't like you.
What is this?
But I'm watching it and I'm thinking to myself, those kids could be 16 and that push for 16.
And anyone that's pushing for 16 for a kid to vote, and it's a kid, right?
Like, I have a problem at the 18-year range for sending people to war if they can't drink and they can't smoke cigarettes legally anymore.
Big problem with that.
But at the same time, I think 18, hey, you can get out of the house.
I struggled.
You know, we were talking about Babyface B the other day.
I struggled as a young guy to get any kind of respect or semblance because I looked like I was like 14 years old when I was 22.
Right?
So it's frustrating to me.
And I'm like, well, how long is this going to last?
Am I going to have to be well into my 30s before people give me a little bit of respect because I look like I'm in my 20s?
Right?
So I don't even like that age stuff.
And I don't sit here and go, Gen Z and millennials and in my day, blah, blah, blah.
Right?
It's not what we don't.
You got a brain.
Let's talk.
I don't care how old you are.
Let's have a conversation.
But anybody who's pushing that is again pushing for the autonomy of young people and children to break away from the family structure.
And that's key in any type of a cultural revolution is you go after the kids.
You go after the kids.
Now, number one, it would be disastrous to have 16-year-olds vote because, quite frankly, in my opinion, I'll say this.
Some of the 30-year-olds that are voting, you know, the ones that are living on their parents' couches until they're 30, 35, and that's not Gen Z or just millennials.
I saw it in my generation so much.
Michael Moore's Collusion Allegations 00:10:56
So much.
And I consider myself X, 1979, baby, so much.
Whereas as soon as I get out of the house, I couldn't wait to get out of the house.
Oh, I got to live with three other guys.
Okay.
Okay, whatever.
And now that motivation just doesn't seem to be there.
So before we play this clip, I can't remember what movie it's from.
It's a documentary film, and there's going to be a bit of irony in it because Noam Chomsky's in it.
This is like limited Hangout Chomsky.
But what he's saying here is correct.
And it's also got Michael Moore in it, Howard Zinn before he died.
And the reason we're going to play it, it's because it's about IBM and the Holocaust.
You know, IBM.
You remember IBM, right?
IBM?
Anybody?
IBM and the Holocaust.
And this stuff wasn't mainline for years and In fact, Edwin Black is the guy that you could really credit with diving deep, deep into what really, I mean, this is part of not only biomedical fascism, but a fascism that wanted to regiment humanity.
Track, Trace, database, the first computer system.
So this is like a four-minute clip, and it's IBM and the Holocaust.
So we should be aware that IBM was involved in some prete, pretty, pretty horrible things.
There was an interesting connection between the rise of fascism in Europe and the consciousness of politically radical people about corporate power because there was a recognition that fascism rose in Europe with the help of enormous corporations.
Which it did.
Which it absolutely 100% did.
Mussolini was greatly admired all across the spectrum.
Business loved him.
Investment shut up.
And certainly when Hitler came in in Germany, the same thing happened there.
Investment shut up in Germany.
He had the workforce under control.
He was getting rid of dangerous left-wing elements.
Investment opportunities were improving.
There's no problems.
These are wonderful countries.
I think one of the greatest untold stories of the 20th century is the collusion between corporations, especially in America, and Nazi Germany.
First, in terms of how the corporations from America helped to essentially rebuild Germany and support the early Nazi regime.
And then, when the war broke out, figured out a way to keep everything going.
So General Motors was able to keep Opal going.
Ford was able to keep their thing going.
And companies like Coca-Cola, because they couldn't keep the Coca-Cola going.
So what they did was they invented Fanta Orange for the Germans.
Again, always got to make that money, shake that money.
I mean, Coca-Cola's story.
Talk about Coca-Cola, South America, union organizers.
Cold-hearted, man.
Cold-hearted.
And this is a reason, you know, I used to like Michael Moore.
And I still, I'll tell you what, not only do I used to like Michael Moore, to this day, if Michael Moore puts out a film, I watch it.
I watch it.
Fahrenheit 11.9 watched it.
And by the way, I think a lot of the Capitalism a Love Story watched it, really liked Capitalism a Love Story.
Don't agree with a lot of it.
Doesn't matter.
The one on the Columbine massacre, right?
Obviously, Fahrenheit 9-11 was that walkway, that bridge for a lot of people in 9-11 truth.
A lot of people don't remember this, but Michael Moore actually got put on the spot about the Pentagon.
I wonder if I can find that.
Maybe we can find that in the second hour.
And that's my big problem.
Michael Moore also failed the lip witness test, just like Chomsky on 9-11.
That's great, guys, that you'll sit down, you know, in the 90s, probably, or maybe the early 2000s, and talk about the Nazis and Mussolini and corporations and IBM.
Great.
Thank you.
We need that.
But you didn't want to talk about 9-11 in the way you should have.
And yeah, Michael, you tried to go.
The thing is that really bothered me in Fahrenheit 11.9, when he's talking about the Trump administration, he finally refers to 9-11 as our Reichstag fire.
And he refused to do that in the previous film when it could have been much more impactful.
And guys like me, you know, had to put out loose change with that.
You understand?
See him while I get a little fired up, like Chad Kenton following the show.
And that's how Koch was able to keep their profits coming in to Coca-Cola.
So when you drink Phantom Orange, that's the Nazi drink.
That was created so that Koch could continue making money while millions of people die.
When Hitler came to power in 1933, his goal was to dismantle and destroy the Jewish community.
This was an enterprise so fast that it required the resources of a That's the dude, author, IBM and the Holocaust, Edwin Black.
Okay, Edwin did just amazing research on this.
Computer.
But in 1933, there was no computer.
What there was was the IBM punch card system, which controlled and stored information based upon the holes that were punched in various rows and columns.
Naturally, there was no off-the-shelf software as there is today.
Each application was custom designed, and the engineer had to personally configure it.
Millions of people of all religions and nationalities and characteristics went through the concentration camp system.
That's an extraordinary traffic management program that required an IBM system in every railroad direction and an IBM system in every concentration camp.
Now, this is a typical prisoner card.
There are little boxes where all the information is to be punched in.
We compare this information to the code sheet for concentration camps.
And here you see Auschwitz is one, Buchenwad two, Dachau is three.
Now, what kinds of prisoners were they?
They could be a Jehovah's Witness for two, a homosexual for three, communist for six, or a Jew would be eight.
And this is why, also, this is important.
People have to understand: when we're talking about the Holocaust and Hitler, it wasn't just Jews, it wasn't just gypsies, it wasn't just homosexuals.
You just saw Jehovah's Witnesses.
They're a long list.
It's basically: if we don't like you and you don't go along with the party, we're going to lump you in with these other groups that we've demonized.
That's bad news, Brown.
Now, what was their status?
One was released, two was transferred, four was executed, five was suicide, and six.
Code six, Zander Behandlung, special treatment meant the gas chamber or sometimes a bullet.
They would punch that number in, the material was tabulated, the machines were set, and of course, the punch cards by the millions had to be printed, and they were printed exclusively by IBM, and the profits were recovered just after the war.
I really do believe that that particular accusation has been fairly discredited as a serious accusation.
Oh, it's fairly discredited as a serious accusation.
Give me a break.
Fairly discredited as a serious accusation.
See how that terminology has always been around.
The experts and the authoritative sources haven't reported on it.
It's been discredited.
That is the fact that they have used equipment, you know, that is a fact.
But how they got it, how much cooperation they got, and any kind of collusion, trying to connect dots that are not connected, I think that's the part that is discredited.
Generally, you sell computers and they're used in a variety of ways and you always hope they're used in the more positive ways possible.
If you ever found out they are used in ways that are not positive, then you would hope that you stop supporting that.
But do you always know?
Can you always tell?
Can you always find out?
Again, absolutely ludicrous.
that IBM didn't know what was going on, that these corporations didn't know what was going on.
It's all part of the war machine, man.
IBM would, of course, say that it had no control over its German subsidiary.
But here on October 9th of 1941, a letter is being written directly to Thomas J. Watson with all sorts of detail about the activities of the German subsidiary.
None of these machines were sold.
They were all leased by IBM and they had to be serviced on site once a month, even if that was at a concentration camp such as Dachau Buchenwad.
This is a typical contract with IBM and the Third Reich, which was instituted in 1942.
It's not with the Dutch subsidiary.
It's not with the German subsidiary.
It is with the IBM Corporation in New York.
You know, as it happens, I know that story.
I discussed it more than once with old Mr. Watson, and I was around at the time.
I'm not saying that Watson didn't know that the German government used Kunschkart.
He probably did know.
After he had very few customers, Watson didn't want to do it.
Watson, not because he thought it was immoral or not, but because Watson, with a very keen sense of public relations, thought it was risky.
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I got a couple more clips that I want to hit on this side, and then we got a ton to do on the other side, but I want to talk about the Proud Boys trial and the upcoming election really quickly.
Look, these guys didn't commit seditious conspiracy.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
Let me read who's, you know, because everybody knows Biggs and Tario are, you know, two of the people right now.
But you have Ethan Nordine.
Okay.
You got Zachary Rel, and you also have Dominic Pizzola.
All right.
Now, look, on varying degrees, those that went into the Capitol, et cetera, you could get charged with something.
Okay.
Probably wasn't the best day for some of these guys.
But I am really happy that we've now gone, I think, over 72 hours.
I think there's deliberation going on right now, and maybe into the next week, that we still don't have a verdict.
Because what you didn't want is for the jury to go into the back room, start discussing these things, and then come back guilty all the way down, like in a couple hours.
First of all, there's a list of charges for each.
There is no seditious conspiracy.
Some of these other charges, maybe you could make a case for.
They don't hold that much weight.
Remember, these people were held and were not able to be released by bail or bond for what?
For a show, for show trials.
And to me, I've said it from the very beginning, especially after the Oath Keepers verdict with Stuart Rhodes.
Remember, so many people were screaming, Fed, Fed, Fed on Stuart Rhodes.
Remember that?
We all going to go back in time to what was hip to say on the alt-conservative front on Rhodes.
Rhodes was doing hard time.
They came back pretty quick on his verdict.
Hard time.
Okay?
And after seeing that, I said, these guys' best chance is for a mistrial.
And then hopefully they're going to probably try to retry them if there is a mistrial, which is insane.
And, you know, they'll probably also try to keep them in jail until the next trial comes up.
But they'll have a much better chance with a mistrial and a change of venue.
And it would be pretty hard to argue they shouldn't get a change of venue after a mistrial.
Just saying.
Who knows?
Who knows?
I could see these people possibly coming back after a week, maybe by Friday of this week, with some guilty, some innocent charges.
I think that's going to be a stretch.
I really believe that the government may have overplayed their hand here in a place that they just expected guilty checkboxes across the board.
Because, look, I don't cosplay.
Okay, I'm not a LARPer.
You're not going to see me in camo unless we're doing some shoot for a parody.
Or perhaps it's Halloween and someone convinced me to go as a group.
That'd be hard-pressed.
I like to do my own thing on Halloween, but usually not military garb.
And you could say they invited it with their talk.
And yeah, yeah, yeah, they're not threats.
I've been around these people.
It's ridiculous.
Again, it's LARPing.
It's live-action roleplay.
You see the outfits on some of these guys?
And it's not like the Proud Boys invented that role play and that LARP style.
I've been around the black block.
I was around Antifa before they were cool.
You know, I go to some of these protests.
People have phone books duct taped around their bodies.
I'd be like, are you really preparing to get hit by a pepper ball or a sandbag?
Talk about making yourself a target.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't prepare.
My boy Luke, you know, he's been in enough of them and goes in enough of them.
He wears a helmet and goggles, probably smart.
I've seen people next to him get like body parts blown off.
That happens.
Less lethal.
Less lethal, everybody.
Less lethal.
So let's see.
I have a few clips that I wanted to play.
What am I going to play before this?
I'm going to play, do I have a clip on?
Yes, the UR connected clip.
That's the one I wanted to do.
Because, look, I don't want any of these machines.
I'm not making any accusations, but this is an article out of 2021.
Election reform group seeks to a ban on Dominion voting technology in Georgia.
I want a ban on all these machines.
If it can be plugged in and has a screen, no mas.
No moss.
They can tell you it's not hooked up to the internet and it's secure all day, but listen to this gentleman, okay?
Perhaps the most critical thing to learn is if you've got a computer, it's internet connected.
You may think it's not internet connected, but it's internet connected.
When I hear people saying, oh, don't worry, it's secure because it's not on the internet, it is.
Remember that in the not-so-distant past, we used to spread viruses through floppy disks.
Those are still doing this, introducing the same risks.
Talk to the Iranians about Stuxnet.
If you're not familiar with that, that was the case where a non-connected system was infected with malware to put out of commission nuclear centrifuges.
I'm not saying nuclear centrifuges and voting machines are the same things, but it demonstrates that being off, you can't really be offline.
Exactly.
Like that's what other people don't understand about Stuxnet.
It was somebody on the inside that infected their infrastructure.
Okay?
Wasn't supposed to be on the internet.
And over time, the malicious software basically disabled these centrifuges and was almost completely undetectable.
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Is there anybody out there that can help?
If you think you're secure, you haven't looked hard enough.
I spent some time as a white hat hacker, one of the good guys who helped companies.
It's pretty much a given that any system can be broken into.
I'm glad DHS is doing the sorts of things they're doing as part of their status as a critical resource.
But anyone who thinks that's enough hasn't looked far enough.
You don't do it once and then you're done.
I've looked at some of the reports that have been made public from DHS.
They are good.
He stops himself here.
They're not good.
They're not good at all.
He's like, well, maybe they're not good.
But they are, or maybe I should say they're fair, but they don't really demonstrate the level of sophistication that a nation state adversary would have.
These systems are uniformly vulnerable.
And I think that any cybersecurity expert who looked at any of these systems would come to that conclusion.
Uniformly, let me say that again.
Uniformly vulnerable.
All right, let's hit a few more stories up before we go to the other side here.
You know, and I haven't even gloated about these two.
There's nothing really to gloat about.
I kind of want to go into more of it than I can right here because we don't have that much time, but we might as well do it.
BuzzFeed is shutting down, and I'm sure everybody's heard it.
Vice preparing for bankruptcy.
So here's the deal.
I want people to understand this.
These media organizations that pop up out of nowhere and are promoted out of nowhere are tools of what?
The great narrative.
That's all they are.
It's it.
It's all they are.
They are tools of a great narrative.
I want you to think about it for a second.
How in the world does a BuzzFeed just start having all of this money and getting all of this coverage and having all of this influence?
Right?
Big bucks behind it.
And the big bucks behind it aren't really looking for a financial return.
Not from BuzzFeed itself.
The financial return comes from the narratives that are promoted for the companies and the interests that they're colluding with.
You get it?
And like people go to me, well, Vice was, you know, grassroots.
First of all, BuzzFeed has done some decent work.
And I'll say that Vice back in the day did some decent work.
And I often turn Vice on, by the way.
People don't realize this, but one of the big influxes of money when Vice started to get popular and before it had a TV show and then a TV network, right?
When it was just like a series on HBO, Bill Maher backed a lot of that with Scratch.
It's now infamous.
We talked about the Proud Boys earlier that Gavin McInnes was one of the founders of Vice.
But Vice was super obscure before getting that tasty, tasty HBO money.
And what they do is they come in with a small air of legitimacy, you know, an eensy, weensy, teensy bit of it, and then exploit that.
And then all of a sudden, it's every, you know, effeminate dude ever on there.
It's funny because like they still try to play to the quote-unquote bro culture there sometimes.
Like I think it's called movies with breaks.
Like, oh, they'll have the hip movie, comedy, action movie over there.
But then, like, the news, it's just, I can't, is it really news?
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Well, if you're on everything else, it's an easy transition to the show.
And now we can actually play things that are maybe a little bit too controversial.
A little bit too controversial.
Now, I want to talk about Jerry Springer again.
Now that we can.
Look, again, although rest in peace, Jerry, again, cultural icon.
We discussed some of the more negative aspects of the show, but they're kind of taking lemons and putting them into lemonade here.
I want to talk about him pushing the hate and lie shot.
And this shows some of his blind spots.
And really, you do have to ask yourself the question.
I've said this from the very, very beginning.
It's not just going to be myocarditis.
Okay.
It's not going to kill everybody.
Like, there were people out there, remember, that were pushing that everybody that took the shot was basically going to drop dead from the flu.
Okay.
They're going to drop.
Everybody's going to drop dead from the flu next season.
Oh, my God.
The immune system is going to be erased.
That's not real.
Okay.
Let me look at you really quick.
Up close.
That's not real.
All right.
You wouldn't release and inject people multiple times with a bioweapon that would be that devastating and simply collapse society like that.
First of all, you'd look guilty as hell, but you'd also not have the infrastructure you wanted to build on everybody that decided to what?
Take the hate and lie shots and get in line for the next biomedical fascist thing.
But what you would do, if you were really looking for population reduction as one of the many, many things that this achieved, because transhumanism, also one of them, the fact that the mRNA is utilized, that's a transhumanist technology.
Later on down the road, they'll tell you that.
They'll say, well, actually, you know, a wee bit here and a wee bit there and a wee bit everywhere.
You know, it changes it a little bit.
Just a teeny tad.
changes you a little bit so one of the other adverse events of these things that i i said would happen is you know cancer will probably begin to increase a lot more And it might, if you already have cancer, accelerate the process.
It's a foreign system.
All right, ever so slightly.
And we're still not at that three to five year marker from when people started taking this.
I think it's really going to be 2025, 2026, where you're going to see some of the most devastating effects of this.
But again, that's just, you know, the autoimmune stuff is also very real, by the way.
I just don't think that you're, even when you look at something like HIV or AIDS, it can take, you know, years or decades for you to succumb to that.
And I do believe autoimmune disorders, dementia going to explode, cancer going to explode on top of the heart attacks and deaths.
And you'll see like this incremental excess death that won't, it won't be as in your face.
And these people will still have their plausible deniability.
And that's what they were really working on with this stuff.
Because this is the takeover, make no mistake.
And then they got Jerry Springer TikToking.
They got him TikToking about it.
He wants to remind Republicans that COVID vaccines are great.
Boy, there's an issue for another commentary with what the Supreme Court just did to a woman's right to control over her own body.
I love that so many of these people that are screaming about taking the vaccine, because how can the government tell us what to do with my own body?
I don't want to have to take the shot.
It's my body.
Those very same people are the ones that are saying the government should tell a woman what she has to do with her body.
So again, I think that's absolutely ridiculous.
You know, especially with the abortion issue and myself, it's never been my issue to die in a hill fork.
I've said that before.
But at the same time, six months or considering abortion after the baby's born, that's not abortion.
Like you have to acknowledge at some point that's a life, right?
And I'm sorry, I don't like the idea that, oh, it's going to be a poor person or they're feeble-minded.
They come from bad stock.
That's eugenics 101.
No tears.
I felt no symptoms.
If the test hadn't come back positive, I never would have known I had it.
I had a little bit of a sniffle, but I never had anything else.
Never any temperature, never any headaches.
I could smell, I could taste.
I was fine.
I was fine.
It's just that NBC, because of the Judge Jerry show, I am required twice a week at the time to take a test before I can go into the courtroom.
And that's when one of the tests came up positive.
So I quarantined for two weeks and had no symptoms.
And then they took the test again and it was negative.
So I was fine.
But I swear by getting the vaccine, because I had the vaccine, I had the Moderna, because I had both those shots.
When I did get it, it was nothing.
So here's the big lie, that somehow that shot made it so COVID wasn't severe when we're talking about, you know, a year and a half, two years into the COVID 1984 nightmare, the fact that the flu, again, had gone away and, you know, natural immunity doesn't exist.
And we didn't even test people for natural immunity and natural antibodies.
It's like, how much lying could you just, I guess, just lie about anything during the great narrative, right?
Whatever kind of lie you want to tell, you can do it.
Foundations Driving Global Change 00:10:25
You can do it.
All right.
I've got this other clip I wanted to play of this woman talking about NGOs and talking about basically how NGOs and corporations, although they're the driving force behind globalism and change in this global society they're trying to build, the truth of the matter is it's you and I.
It's the average folks with their smaller donations that make up, wildly make up.
In fact, I didn't realize this.
I think it was something like 70 plus percent of the money that goes towards these things.
Now, out of all that, though, out of all the donations, about 30% goes to religion.
She's pretty disgusted by that, it seems.
But it shows how, and I want to play this thing because it shows how they'll take our money and manipulate us, right?
And really, they'll put in their money, but in a tax-free way, in a much smaller way, but they have the bigger voice.
And it's their agenda that gets pushed through.
You understand?
Not the will of the people, but the will of the predator class by what?
Creating these systems of command and control and convincing just a minute percentage of the surf class, as they refer to us, with going along, not only going along with it, but championing it.
Like this lady.
This lady's not part of the predator class, but she sure stumps for them.
No doubt about it.
All right, here we go.
For some of you, the concept of philanthropy is new.
And you are giving, and you think about yourself making a charitable donation, but you don't necessarily think of yourself as a philanthropist.
But in fact, you are.
Philanthropy can be human capital, intellectual capital, or financial capital.
And in fact, in 2011, people like you and me gave almost $300 billion in cash gifts.
You additionally gave another 63 million people gave 8.1 billion reported volunteer hours.
And if you value that at just $22 an hour, that's another $170 billion.
And then there was a recent report that came out from the government indicating that the contribution from the nonprofit sector was approximately 7.8% of our GDP.
So the $300 billion, which equals 2% of our GDP, plus that additional $170 billion, plus the output from the nonprofit social sector, it's anywhere from 10 to 13% of our GDP, depending on how you want to look at that.
Now, do you notice that she also discusses like time put in and really this precursor to the idea of stakeholder capitalism, trying to say to you, you have a stake in this.
Stakeholder capitalism, equity.
So it's a significant part of what's going on in our society.
And in fact, this philanthropy and nonprofit sector employs 10% of the labor force.
So again, a big part of what's going on in our domestic economy.
And it also has been the fastest area of economic growth in the past year.
So where do those philanthropic dollars come from?
They come from people like you and me, 71% who are living, 8% who are passing on, so around 83 to 85% in any given year.
And then foundations are contributing 14% and corporations 5%.
So where does that money go to?
Well, from individuals, probably 30% of it and the 30% on the aggregate or a little bit more is going to religion.
So it's a reminder.
You can ask early and often.
But there's also many other places where you, individual families who on average are giving about $2,300 a year.
So health, education, human services, all of the areas of interest that you actually care about.
So let's stop there.
All the ones that you actually care about.
No, you're manipulated into.
I mean, think about it.
How many people, I mean, the one I see all the time now on Fox News is, you know, the hungry Jews in Ukraine.
But before it was just all over Eastern Europe, right?
And survivors of the Holocaust and Christians and Jews come together.
That's on Fox News all the time.
They get exploited there.
Before that, you know, back in the day, you'd see, you know, starving kids in Africa.
A lot of cancer stuff.
St. Jude's, they really play on your emotion.
Ask yourself, how much cancer research has really been done to save the populace?
How much cancer information is out there over the last 30, 40 years of those type of donations?
I've seen them my whole life.
How many of those villages have running water in the infrastructure that could have been built?
No, instead, instead, it's funneled into systems of control.
You're being fleeced.
That's why I really, every time they tell me to round up, right?
Oh, you want to round up?
No.
No, I don't.
You know where I do round up?
I round up at the Goodwill and the Salvation Army because I know what you're going to get, right?
Like I actually see them helping people who need rehab, giving jobs to people that were on drugs or have criminal records that are starting again, et cetera.
That's something I can see with my own eyes.
I always say, if you are going to give to something, usually give locally.
Because otherwise, you're at the behest of an agenda you really don't know nothing about that's being pushed by people like this.
Think about.
But foundations have a very unique role.
So while they are 14% of that $300 billion, if you will, they play a very special role in that they have $600 billion of unconstrained assets that they hold and have invested.
And importantly, they are making grants, and some of those grants are multi-year, and some of them go to general support and some to project-related support.
But importantly, they can come in larger gifts.
They can signal others, such as you and me, who they may have done more due diligence.
And that's helpful for smaller foundations to hear from larger foundations.
But importantly, they can play some special roles.
They can be a driver of social change, such as the Gates Foundation, that has really looked at malaria up and down, whether it's from bed nets to research.
They can be a catalyst for social change.
You hear about this?
Social change.
Social change.
And when we're talking about Gates and malaria, you're not just talking about hate and lie shots.
You're talking about GMO mosquitoes to vaccinate you.
GMO mosquitoes to vaccinate you.
That's not social change.
That's societal and biological change.
That's terraforming our planet.
That's what that is.
Like when you start dealing with GMO ecosystems, right, and you're going even beyond plant life and the corn, and now you're getting into the biology of mosquitoes that's going to interact with the biology of all life.
They don't just bite humans, folks, for vaccine delivery.
Yeah, I guess you'd call that social change.
We love the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
Oh, my.
Think about it.
In the year 2000, how many of you really talked about carbon footprint?
Well, today we do, thanks to the Hewlett Foundation that pulled together foundations in the area, funded climate works, and really changed our thinking and was a catalyst for this new thinking and social change work.
So once again, using climate change as an example now, which I think is important, she's talking about influencing things that most people didn't know what a carbon footprint is, but by browbeating them with it through public relations and Bernesian talking points and a whole lot of money, you know, people were donating money to save the environment and stop global warming and all those types of things, right?
They think they're doing a good thing.
Really, they're promoting the idea that you're bad as a human.
You have to be track-trace database not only on the outside, but the inside, and then given a carbon-based social credit score allotment system based on a digital hellscape of blockchain technology.
But you think you're doing the right thing.
See how that works?
It's influencing.
Influence exists.
But again, influence doesn't exist when your toddler wants to identify as the other gender, inject themselves with hormones, and have life-altering surgery, right?
The cognitive dissonance, the flip-on reality is unreal.
But it is real because we're living it.
Or they can be a partner, such as the good partnerships that we enjoyed when we wanted to take over SSIR.
And a number of foundations lined up with us and helped us have that opportunity.
So they can play this very special role.
And so tonight, when you're listening to the commentary from our speakers and first our keynote, Rob, you can put that into your mindset and your context.
Hate Crimes and Hoaxes 00:05:16
So with that, there are some paradoxes that are in the field, I would say.
You have grass tops with the money, grassroots, people working on the bottom trying to solve these problems.
How do they come together through philanthropy?
And what are the roles that the people with money, either individuals or foundations, and those of us who are doing the work maybe within the social sector?
No, it's a top-down structure for sure.
And unfortunately, the people at the bottom are many, many times unknowing, well-meaning dupes.
Unknowing, well-meaning dupes.
That's what they are.
All right.
I wanted to play this clip here because I'm seeing it on television all the time.
And it's playing into this idea that there's so much bigotry and so much hate in this country and white supremacy is around every single damn corner and I'm done and I'm sick of it.
It's ridiculous.
It's outlandish.
In fact, every time that I've seen one of these hate crimes in the last couple of years, hate crimes with a swastika, right, going after quote-unquote Jews, it ends up being a hoax.
But now I have to see a national commercial that's on television all the time when I'm sitting there watching my MMA stand up to Jewish hate.
And look, I don't like anti-Semites.
But again, the idea that anti-Semites are around every corner or there's a resurgency of this, or that a woman in a nice neighborhood has to worry about what?
Her garage being painted up with a swastika and her daughter seeing it.
It's almost non-existent.
That threat is almost non-existent.
I'd say, honestly, you have a better chance of winning the lottery in this country, maybe even Powerball, than this actually occurring.
So let's go to the video.
Let's go, Mom.
We're going to be late.
Hi, Mr. Coney.
Mom, what's that?
Nothing.
Just get in the car.
Let's go.
Who did that?
Come on.
Right now.
Get in.
Right now.
Let's go.
Can you paint it or something?
Move it.
Seatbelt on right now.
Put your seatbelt on.
One in four?
One in four Jewish people experienced Jewish hate last year.
Is that real?
One in four?
Come on.
I can tell you this.
Not one in four, not one in 40, not one in 400, not one in 4,000, not one in 40,000 Jewish people in this country had that happen to them.
Period.
Never happened.
I'm going to say it again.
Not one in 40, 400, 4,000, 40,000.
Just hasn't.
That's not a real thing.
All right.
And I'm not saying there aren't bigots.
I'm not saying there aren't hate groups.
I'm not saying anti-Semitism doesn't exist.
One in four?
One in four?
I mean, are people really worried about Jewish hate spray everywhere?
I don't know.
The swastika hasn't seemed that prevalent in my lifetime.
Just want to let everybody know.
And I'm a 43-year-old man.
Just not that prevalent.
Okay.
I got stories I want to hit.
Then I've got the RFK Michael Smirkomish, like about 15 minutes interview where Smirkomish is somewhat fair, lets Robert Kennedy speak, but has a really weird look in his eye.
Smirkomish has a really weird look on his face the entire interview.
But we'll get there in a minute.
I want to hit some of these stories because they're big and they're not getting enough play.
And we can do these stories all the time.
But I want people to know the monsters are among us.
Satellites and Spy Balloons 00:03:51
They are all over the place.
Former Madison County fire chief and wife accused of sex crimes against underage girl.
All right, sometimes these couples are partners in the monster, the monster activity.
Former Hubbard County Commissioner Daniel Stacey arrested for child sex crimes.
BCA seeking more victims.
Okay, this is a former Minnesota County commissioner.
Okay.
And they're looking for more victims.
He's been charged with felony counts of second degree criminal sexual conduct and disturbing sexually explicit content to a child, or I'm sorry, distributing sexually explicit content to a child, according to the Minnesota Department of Public Safety.
These people need to go to prison forever.
Forever.
That's it.
You get convicted of this crime.
You're out.
You're done.
Goodbye.
We don't need you in society anymore.
Arrivedurchi.
You won't be missed.
Stacy has also worked as a Boy Scout leader, a bus driver for Neves Public School District, and as a mentor at youth homes.
Lovely.
Just great.
Just fantastic.
Balloons are in the news again.
U.S. tracking another mysterious balloons.
Military has been following an unidentified object that flew over Hawaii and is heading towards Mexico for a week.
I'm going to say it again.
This is now part, it has been.
This is part of the satellite network.
These are satellites on balloons, satelloons, if you will, that are carrying these things that interact with other types of satellite systems.
We've increased those satellite systems.
Think about how many Starlinks have recently launched.
Plenty.
And now, because of, I think, that massive expansion, we're seeing some of these fail or go rogue in a sense.
And as that happens, there has to be a cover story.
And the spy satellites are the cover story.
But really, I mean, they kind of are spy satellites, but they're not what they're telling you they are.
Okay?
These things are all over the place.
All over the place.
And that veil is being lifted somewhat, but then, you know, somehow people believe rockets are going to take us to the moon with Elon Musk.
And we're going to Mars.
We're going to the moon.
Sure, we are.
Sure.
And we had another rocket explode like two weeks ago, maybe even less than a week ago.
Another one just blow right up.
And people are like, yeah.
And I try to point out to people that human beings haven't been more than 400 miles, 400 miles up, allegedly, since the Apollo flights.
And that's 250,000.
And I'm like, take those two numbers.
If I said I had $400 in my wallet, you'd say, yeah, you can have $400.
I mean, that's not great.
You got it.
Now, if I said I had a quarter million dollars in my wallet, it's a big difference.
You'd be like, no, you don't.
I mean, you couldn't even physically, with our monetary system, even if you had $1,000 bills, have $250 stacked in that wallet, Jason.
Just not possible.
But people believe.
They believe that rockets took people 250,000 miles and back.
Rockets.
With no rocket on the moon.
No one's questioning that story.
Misinformation and Debate Tactics 00:15:42
Like, come on.
But if you question it, oh, you're a kook or you're a flat earther, you think all of space is fake.
No, I just think that we're being lied to on a massive level.
And the majority of what NASA is actually doing in space, because they're doing a lot of other things not in space, okay, the majority of which that they're doing in space is weaponizing it and not against Daboogeman and aliens.
They're weaponizing it against us, the surf class for the predator class.
And I know Leikey.
I don't like it.
Call him kooky.
All right.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., after being censored on his ABC interview, was given some time by Michael Smirkomish.
I did the Smirkomish some, I don't know, 18 years ago now.
I think it was with MSNBC then, with CNN these days.
Shocker.
Shocker indeed.
So let's play this exchange because I think it's an interesting one.
And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. continues to knock it out of the park on mainstream media, in my opinion.
President Biden has a bust of your father in the Oval Office.
When you see that, what do you think?
I'm honored by it.
And, you know, I have a lot of admiration for President Biden for the service that he's given to our country.
I've known him.
He's been my friend.
Let me just, I mean, is it just me or does Smirkomish have a crazy look on his face?
And don't get me wrong, the way I stopped on Kennedy, he's got like a Mo Sislak going from The Simpsons.
But like his eyes are tweaked out.
And look, Kennedy talks about Biden being a friend of 40 plus years, a personal friend, and this isn't an attack on Joe Biden.
Joe Biden's not running anything, and his policies have been awful.
Shouldn't be hard to reject Joe Biden.
Don't love this.
But again, R.F. Kennedy Jr. kind of does use this to his advantage.
I mean, I think this is a very probably honest.
I think he's being honest, but also political talking point.
My friend, my close family friend for 40 years.
And, you know, there's nothing personal about this campaign.
I am not going to run a mean-spirited campaign or a personal campaign against President Biden.
He and I just differ really dramatically on issues like the war, like censorship, like the control of Wall Street and the big corporations of our federal government and the pharmaceutical companies and also the use of fear as a governing tool.
And I think our country's headed in a bad direction, and that's why I'm running, but not because I don't lack a personal affection for President Biden.
Is he too old to have a second term?
I don't think age should be a metric for us limiting presidential power.
I mean, Bernie Sanders is 81, and a lot of people would support him.
So I think it really, you know, the only question that we have when you get to a certain age is do you have the mental acuity?
And I am not going to judge President Biden's medical acuity, mental acuity.
I mean, let's be honest, he's gone, and he's been gone for some time.
I think this is another political answer, but at the same time, I also agree with him that it's really not the age, it's the performance, right?
Like, I'll tell you what, Donnie T looks like he's got a second wind.
He's up there talking and squawking an hour plus at a time.
So I almost think that's a straw man argument.
I think that what Smirkomish should have said is, is Biden's mental capacity still there to run the country?
Was it there in the first place?
Did we install a dementia-ridden puppet?
I'll leave that to other people.
I've just seen a poll that says you're at 19% among Democrats in a race against President Biden.
At what point do you think he's obligated to debate you?
I'm mindful of the fact that if it were a general election, the Commission on Presidential Debates has a threshold of 15%.
I mean, I think there should be debates.
I think, you know, particularly, Michael, at this time in history, there's so many Americans who are worried about election integrity, who have lost faith in election integrity and feel like the whole system, including the election system, is rigged against them.
I mean, there was riots by people on Capitol Hill because of that, you know, that driving conviction.
So I think the political parties, both parties ought to be doing everything that they can to convince the American public that we really have a democracy in this country and that, you know.
You know, let's just talk about the debate situation for a second.
The idea that Kennedy would only poll 19% against Joe Biden when you have 70% of Democrats not even wanting Joe Biden to run is a little absurd and doesn't sound real to me.
And the fact that he's only 7% above a Marianne Williamson, he said 19%.
She was like at 9, so I guess 10%.
Marion Williamson, no one cares about her.
She doesn't have the RFK Jr. brand.
Like the Kennedy brand alone is going to get you notoriety.
And the fact that this guy has actually stood up for real environmental justice and real freedom of choice when it comes to any type of shot.
I mean, I would think, you know, it wouldn't even be 50-50 with him and Biden.
I think that he would be the guy with 60-plus percent, period.
Like, you keep Maryam at whatever, 9%.
And Joe, really, I think, below 20 when given the choice of RFK Jr. to anybody who's thinking.
Unless you have severe, you know, media bias and a whole lot of TDS on the side, then RFK Jr. might not be your guy.
That's very possible.
Our politicians are running, are talking to people, are doing retail politics, are engaging in debates and town halls.
And it's not just a rigged system where the candidates are chosen by the political party the way that was done in the Soviet Union.
So I'm hoping.
And by the way, our debate systems have been totally broken for my entire life, my entire life, especially when we're talking about primaries.
And they've gotten worse and worse and worse.
You know, I would say during the Barack Star era, even in 2007, guys like Mike Revell and guys like Dennis Kucinich were completely marginalized and barely given an opportunity to talk, but they were given an opportunity to talk.
By the time it gets to Tulsi Gabbard, she's not even allowed in some debates.
And like in a two-hour debate, you get to hear her five or 10 minutes.
Every single candidate should be able to be allotted a certain amount of time to answer questions.
Every question.
That's it.
You got to be fair.
You got to give equal time for equal debate.
We don't do that in this country.
You know, even if I had 5%, I think it's important to do debates.
But, you know, that's a choice.
Would you go so far?
Understood.
But would you go so far as to say that he has an obligation to debate you if you have a respectable showing in the polls and 19% is respectable?
I think he has an obligation to democracy to debate anyway.
And I would hope that he does that.
But I mean, you're a lawyer and I'm a lawyer.
There's no legal obligation that the president has.
I can't sue him for it.
It's a decision by the party.
And I would hope that the party would put democracy with, you know, would treasure and value our democracy.
And it would at least.
I think a lot of people are feeling like the shroud has been lifted off of democracy now and that, you know, it's all kind of fake and it was all rigged.
And I think we need to be doing everything that we can to persuade Americans that democracy in this country is real.
I watched.
Well, in order to do that, you also have to change the infrastructure and you've got to get rid of those pesky machines, period.
Period.
And we've got to have some semblance of how we are going to cast votes, how we are going to allow votes to be cast, and how we are going to count those votes and audit them after the fact to ensure that we haven't been lied to.
It's a long road, Robert.
It's a long road.
Go ahead, Smirkomish.
Watched your announcement speech from Boston, all two hours of it, at about the 48 minutes.
There's Dennis, by the way.
At about the 48 or 49 minute mark, you said, This is what happens when you censor somebody for 18 years.
I got a lot to talk about.
Who censored you and why?
Well, most recently, the networks all censored me, including this network.
But most recently, and I think most offensively, the White House was asking the social media sites to censor me.
There were also attorney generals, I think 18 or 13 Democratic attorney generals who contacted the social media sites and asked them specifically to censor me.
But, you know, we now have, because of the Twitter files and because of these email dumps, we now have clear evidence that there were White House personnel who were ordering the social media companies to censor me.
And it had nothing to do with misinformation.
The thing is that they told you in the beginning that none of this had to do with misinformation.
They said it could be malinformation.
And malinformation is anything that hurts the agenda.
It's very broad.
Misinformation, disinformation, malinformation.
And they announced that government entities would be involved.
And they announced that big tech was going to go in lockstep with them.
And they announced that the World Health Organization was the authoritative source by which we must all bend the knee.
Okay?
So, yeah, open censorship of this guy.
Come on, Smirkomish.
You know they censored him.
Who censored you and why?
In fact, nobody's been able to show a single statement that I've ever met, made on my Twitter or any social media that is factually inaccurate.
It was because I was dissenting from government policies.
And, you know, in this country, we built this country so that to allow our citizens to complain about our public officials.
And that's, to me, a clear violation of the First Amendment.
So let's go there.
The New York Times, then reporting on your announcement, said this, Mr. Kennedy is the latest in a history of fringe presidential aspirants from both parties who run to bring attention to a cause or to themselves.
Do you embrace that label, fringe?
And if not, what does...
Fringe.
This idea of fringe candidates is, again, another Bernesian talking point.
They wanted to make you think that Ron Paul was fringe.
Not fringe.
Mainline.
Mainline.
Mainline for the people, not the predator class.
Okay?
They told you Donald Trump was fringe.
Far from fringe.
This guy was part of pop culture for how long?
Right?
Ross Perot back in the day was fringe.
And he really scared him and helped change the landscape.
All right.
And the thing is that he couldn't get into the Republican or Democratic system and ran it as an independent and for a short period of time really gave people the hope that an independent could win or a third party could rise up.
No, sorry, never happened.
What does fringe mean to you?
Well, I'm not running to bring attention to a particular cause.
I'm running because I believe I'm going to win.
I have a good chance of winning, a good enough chance of winning to endure all the hardships that a campaign imposes on me and my family.
And I can tell you this, Michael, because I know that you're a big fan of my wife's, but if she did not think, if I had not convinced her that I can win this race, I would not be in it because she's the ultimate boss.
Okay, listen, I do love your wife.
I'm Team Sheryl.
Having said that, she called you out on that Anne Frank reference.
Even in Hitler, Germany, you could cross the Alps into Switzerland.
You can hide in an attic like Anne Frank did.
I visited in 1962, East Germany, with my father and met people who had climbed the wall and escaped.
So it was possible.
Many died truly, but it was possible.
Today, the mechanisms are being put in place that will make it so none of us can run and none of us can hide.
You then apologized.
Can you and I agree that Nazi or Holocaust references are never appropriate because then they do.
No.
No, we can't agree on that.
No.
No.
We had to make that reference earlier with IBM because of their associations.
And everything that RFK Jr. said there was absolutely true.
There is nowhere to run or hide if they get their infrastructures in place of total track trace database.
If they get a system in place like they have in Israel via checkpoints and the automated smart shooter system.
Sorry, Smircomish, but he wasn't wrong.
I can't agree with you there.
Diminish what truly transpired in the Holocaust.
Well, first of all, Michael, in that case, I was, first of all, let me say I agree that we have to be careful about how we invoke the Holocaust.
But, you know, it's a difficult, it's a, just on a theoretical or hypothetical basis.
I don't know if you can have kind of hard and fast rules about that because, you know, I grew up in a generation where, you know, right after World War II, where everybody was saying, you know, never again.
And the only way that we make sure that that kind of barbarism doesn't happen again is if we're allowed to talk about it.
And if we're allowed to, right, if we are able to recognize all the milestones of tyranny, and that exercise may more speech, not less.
Invoking Tyranny Discussions 00:13:14
Why are we always talking about we should never invoke and we should never talk about this?
That's the wrong attitude to have.
That's the censorship attitude.
That's not confronting reality.
It's not no bueno, Michael Smirkomish.
No bueno.
It requires at some point, and may be useful, to invoke historical wrongs, including the Holocaust cause, the American native genocide, black slavery, and the many atrocities in history.
But I want to say something about that case.
In that case, and that's a good example of the censorship, I never compared the COVID mandates or the COVID response to the Holocaust.
That was a media canard, something that the media made up and charged me with.
And I was making a completely different point about the rise of the emerging rise of AI, artificial intelligence and surveillance technologies, which was creating an infrastructure that in the future, totalitarian systems would be able to surveil us and intrude and control our lives in ways that had never happened in the past.
And so, because I know, but you invoked, but you let me just finish.
You invoked Ann Frank.
You invoked Ann Frank.
So what?
He's not wrong.
Again, we just saw one of the mechanisms for command and control via a punch card and computer system.
And we just showed you the evidence that they can sit there and act as though there was ignorance in these companies, bullshit.
But then they went and serviced the machines at the camps.
Do you get it?
And as far as the COVID-19 44 nightmare and it being involved, it wouldn't matter what nightmare or an emergency they put forward once the infrastructure is in place.
Kennedy's not wrong here at all, not even a little bit.
I invoked or not comparing the Holocaust to the COVID mandates.
I wasn't doing that.
That's what the media reported.
That was not true.
And I ultimately, because of the damage that was happening to my family, because I was living in a world where nothing I said was reported.
So I was not allowed to defend myself.
In fact, this is the first time I've ever been allowed to talk about it on TV.
Nobody would talk to me.
Nobody would allow me on.
Nobody would invite me on and say, why did you say that?
And ultimately, I had to apologize for something I never said.
Now, if you're saying- Okay, I'm happy to have you here because I want to have conversation.
I can tell already you'll have to come back so that we can continue this.
But I need to get to this.
This week, a COVID crisis group released a big report.
It cited our collective national incompetence.
I'm sure you're familiar with it.
I worry about our scientific preparedness for the next COVID, whatever it might look.
And look at how establishments, Mercoma says, I'm worried.
We failed.
We're just so incompetent.
Total limited hangout garbage, giving the institutions that came after us during the nightmare more power, more power.
It's a total canard.
And again, it's limited hangout exposures.
One of the reasons I like RFK Jr. is because what?
He'll talk about DARPA.
He'll talk about the military aspects of this, the real techno-fascist aspects.
He needs to start talking about what?
The Curvac-Tesla partnership.
Hasn't whispered that one yet.
I hope that one's next, Robert.
I really sincerely do.
Look like, I also worry, though, about a diminished faith in institutions.
In your case, you're so suspect, disbelieving of the FDA, the CDC.
Where will you go if you were president for scientific information?
On whom will you rely?
I'll rely what I are the same source that I rely on now, which is PubMed, which is, you know, the repository in the archives for peer-reviewed publication.
And I will, you know, listen, CDC and FDA, these are the same agencies that brought us the opioid crisis.
They told us that opioids were safe and effective and were good for us.
And now we have 56,000 American young people dying every year, more than more every year in the 20-year Vietnam War, because these agencies got their science wrong.
And they got it wrong because.
They got it wrong because of what?
Profiteering?
Safe and effective.
Safe and effective.
Here they are.
Take your opioids.
Here they are.
Big money, big money, big money.
Hey!
Because they're controlled by pharmaceutical companies.
You know, what we have to do as people, in a democracy, unfortunately, we are required not to listen, not to simply take on blind faith the statements of authorities, whether they're military authorities or public health authorities.
We have to do our own homework.
Blind faith authority is a feature of religion.
It's not of science.
We are obligated to look at the science ourselves and make up our own minds.
My uncle understood that, and that's why he didn't bomb Cuba during the Bay of Pigs.
He didn't trust the actors.
I need to do I, like you.
Robert, I want to do a lightning round.
You got to give me a sound bite on three quick subjects.
I hope you're ready.
We got to do a lightning round.
Listen, as establishment and corny as Smirkomish is, at least he lets Kennedy speak with minimal interruptions.
And, you know, this is a 15 or I'm sorry, 14-minute or so clip.
It looks like there was a little bit prior to this that they didn't post.
Again, I want more conversation.
And look, if Smirkomish is trying to brand himself as the libertarian over at CNN, good for him.
Even Trumpski and Hutch, Donnie T, has spoken kindly of Smirkomish in the past.
I think he obviously knows a lot more than he lets on.
I think he's cozy and comfy in his job and his persona.
I think we also all have our blind spots, but at the same time, this guy carries water for the establishment like almost no other.
Lightning round with Mr. Kennedy.
Disney versus the state of Florida, pick a side.
I have no comment on that because I just don't know enough about it, Michael.
I've been totally on the sidelines on that, and I have not delving into it.
Okay, subject two: trans sports participation.
I would, I think that I'm against people participating in women's sports who are, you know, who are biologically male.
I think women have worked too hard to develop a sporting, you know, to develop women's sports over the past 30 years.
I watched it happen, and I don't think that's fair.
I'm worried.
This is subject three: final issue.
I'm worried about our adolescents.
I'm worried about our youth.
I'm worried about the impact of social media.
I take note of the fact that the CDC, I know you often question the CDC, but the CDC just released that the percentage of high school female students who seriously considered attempting suicide rose from 24.1% to about a third, 30%, between 2019 and 2021.
Do you see?
Let me just stop it there.
That's a lot.
Either one of those numbers is extreme.
That's one out of four or more.
One out of four seriously committing, serious, seriously considering committing suicide.
I want subsets of who's on medications, right?
Nature versus nurture, man.
Don't get me wrong.
I get it.
There are some people that just have really tough home lives.
They are abused.
They can't imagine how they're going to make it into tomorrow.
They do think about suicide.
All right, but seriously considering it is a big deal.
And then now going into that, not the nurture aspect, but the nature aspect.
If you're changing the natural chemistry of someone's mind with Adderall or a slew of other medications, what are the contributions there?
To blame social media, especially with just the youth, I think is bad news, Brown, because I see plenty of 30 and 40-year-olds scroll diddly only.
Scroll, Everything in moderation.
It's a tool, right?
It's a tool.
And I'm not trying to brag about it, but again, no Facebook-y, no Snapchat-y.
No, no, no.
No Instagram-y.
Never really had an Instagram.
Well, there is an Instagram.
I've never posted on it.
Not anything personal anyway.
I put a couple of Rockfin things on there.
And then no Snapchat, no TikTok, obviously.
But again, maybe I should be TikToking.
Maybe I should use that as a tool.
I don't think I'd ever put it on my phone.
I think we just have to use the desktop and upload videos and clips and stuff like that and do edits because the social media thing is poison because it plays into that Jerry Springer circus society of everybody wants to be famous.
Everybody wants their 15 minutes.
Everybody wants to play the victim.
Everybody has no shame.
Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody.
And of course, you know, I'm being facetious when I say everybody.
I mean the vast majority of folks.
Because again, I know there's a lot of great individuals out there that are part of the Burmese Brigade that do the free thinking and the social media no-nos.
All right, let's let RFK answer the question from Smirkomish.
Do you see a causal connection between big tech and usage by our adolescents and the spike in mental health?
I think there's the spike in mental health has something to do clearly with social media.
I think that there is causal relationships clearly between the chemical exposures to children today.
We have a chronic disease epidemic in this country.
Matter of fact, we've gone from 6% of our kids, I think, chronic disease, to 54% as of 2006.
Among those chronic diseases, and we know that they're related, are chemical exposures and pharmaceutical drug exposures and issues like depression, anorexia, OCD, ADD, ADHD, and all these different neurological injuries.
And I think that is the main thing that we need to talk about.
And I will deal with this president.
Ending the chronic disease epidemic in this country.
And to the people who say, why did you let him say that?
Why didn't you confront him with all the data?
You would say what?
Show me the data.
That's what I love.
Show me some data.
Show me where I got it wrong.
Show me where I made a statement that is inaccurate.
Show me the scientific study.
My man.
My man.
I mean, how do you not get behind RFK Jr. after watching something like that?
He wants to legitimately end the chronic disease epidemic.
All right, folks, we are down to our last minute.
I want to remind everybody that I am a documentary filmmaker, Invisible Empire, a new world order to find.
Shade the motion picture if you want the big picture on globalism.
Both of them now well over a decade old.
Can't believe it.
I'm an old man.
The Greys are here.
And then, of course, my 9-11 films, Fabled Enemies, Loose Change, Final Cut, extremely relevant and important to this day.
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