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He is the one guy that, when everyone's distracted and looking all other directions, Jason Burmes is cutting down to what we should really be looking at.
And thank you for joining me, Jason, as always.
Thank you for having me, Mel.
Oh, it's my pleasure, as always.
And you've been very busy, so it's been a little harder to get you, but I'm very grateful you're here.
I want to first and foremost remind everyone that Jason was involved in a documentary called Loose Change about 9-11.
If you have not seen it, I highly recommend it, as all of his documentaries.
But crazy enough, this past week there was some news about 9-11.
Immediately, I look to Jason.
I go to his site.
I'm like, I knew he would be on it.
And no one else reported it.
It's very important that people understand that this is not over.
Jason's never letting it go.
Jason, can you tell the audience what they missed this week about 9-11?
Yeah, so here's the deal.
Nobody in the U.S. media picked up this story, but this is an article by Felix Lipschitz for RT.
And actually, there's a base article behind it.
And guess what?
They also link to the actual documents that were created in the good old US of A.
But every time I share the article, Mel, guess what?
It comes up as Russian disinformation.
Oh, wow.
So the lunatics and the hystericals refuse to even click on it, even though I've pointed out numerous times that the article behind me is by a gentleman named Felix Lipschitz.
And right here, yes, very Russian-sounding name, I know.
And right here, right in the very beginning, if you look at the filings, everything is linked.
So the document that is being referred to is right here, Mel.
And right now, this is an unclassified declaration by Donald C. Canastario.
And he's involved in the military commissions hearings that have been going on now for some time and has been acting in a defense organization capacity since 2016 of April.
So literally now about seven years.
And this declaration is really expanding on something that I've reported on for many years now, is that the CIA shepherded and protected a lot of these guys at the very least.
And it seems like they recruited them and were running them in some cases, specifically in the case of Nawaf Alhamzi and Khalid Almadar.
Almadar is so important because a lot of information also came out about him even after I did Fabled Enemies.
Now, in Fabled Enemies, within the first 10 minutes of the film, Mel, we go to Diane Albright, who is a neighbor of Walid Al-Shiari, one of the alleged hijackers, and numerous others.
Now, Mel, she called not the police, not even the FBI.
She called the Central Intelligence Agency on them prior to 9-11, and nothing was done.
Now, that coincides with yet another story that has never been covered in the United States by any mainstream media, and I don't believe was even covered by RT.
And that was the Dark Overlords data dump from 2018, about five years ago.
And I know a lot of people are going to, now you're getting crazy.
Dark Overlord, what are you talking about, Jason?
These hacker groups have names.
Right.
One of them was the Dark Overlord.
And I would point out if you look that up, past 2018, it seems like a bunch of them got arrested, kind of on the sly.
So, there are small reports that these people were picked up.
And initially, what they were doing was asking for a million-dollar Bitcoin bounty.
And those that donated, right, as soon as you hit that, they were going to release all five quote-unquote layers of these documents.
So, they were encrypted files.
I could not decrypt them without the actual codes.
Brute force attacks were not working.
Nobody I know has ever been able to crack the codes.
But they ended up, even though they didn't hit their financial markers, releasing the first three layers.
And hidden in one of those layers was James Woods' secret testimony in one of the many hearings we never heard about in civil cases for 9-11.
And in it, he was deposed because he had gone on television and actually been interviewed about his experience on 9-11 and before 9-11.
So, James Woods had actually called up the FBI, told them about an instance in August on the morning of 9-11 when he saw the attacks.
And that instance, as described in this secret testimony, was that he, a flight attendant, and the plane's captain all filed a report with the FAA when they saw four men casing the plane in first class, by the way, and they thought they were going to hijack it.
To the point that in this testimony, Mel, James Woods actually talks about the fact that when he got his dinner, he hid a butter knife and did not give it back in case these guys who were sitting behind him had gone after the plane.
So, he actually talks with the pilot.
The pilot sees the men, locks the cockpit, makes the filing.
Nothing's ever said or done.
Obviously, that would have gone to intelligence agencies, especially because guess what?
According to James Woods, it was flight 11.
That's where it gets tricky.
So, flight 11, according to the main version, is that Muhammad Ada is the lead hijacker there.
Khalid Al Madar is a lead hijacker on 77 or the Pentagon.
Okay, and they never really describe how they know who the lead hijackers are or any of this.
Almadar is on flight 11, according to James Woods.
That's a big no-no.
That shouldn't be happening.
And Al Madar is the one that's heavily discussed as the CIA asset.
But wait, it gets better.
So, for an extensive view of this, this is actually even more in-depth, and this came out on the 9th, so about a week ago.
This site called Florida Bulldog does an extensive job of explaining, you know, essentially how they were recruited and how the CIA was spying on the FBI, and the FBI didn't trust the CIA.
And this is where they say that they lose track of Alhamzi and Al Madar.
Now, Richard Clark, who was the terrorism czar, and the guy that also alluded to the fact that Michael Hastings, who was reporting on the NSA, may have had his car blown up remotely.
Remember that little fiasco?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He was the I failed you, and your government failed you, guy.
And he's also featured in a film a lot of people don't know about called Press for Truth.
And it's the story of the Jersey girls.
And essentially, mainly they're looking at terrorism funding and they're alluding to the Saudi Arabian aspect of this.
Now, what most people don't know is that even though 17 of the 19 guys came from that consulate in Saudi Arabia, that was a CIA-run consulate.
All right.
We also in the film, Fabled Enemies, have Michael Springman blowing the whistle on that as he was one of the people that worked there and had to quit because he was being forced to give visas to people that didn't deserve it.
And then he actually witnessed the NSA giving visas to people that he had denied.
All right.
So you have this huge connection.
You see that they are being what?
Protected.
And now, and by the way, it said in the very first paragraph, this gentleman, another gentleman who used to work for the FBI and several others are saying it appears they were actually run by the CIA, which would make total and complete sense, and that they're not allowed to talk about everything they know.
But they do link to several documents that this is the case.
Richard Clark, who we were talking about earlier back in 2009, admits that 55, not one analyst, 55 analysts had this information in the year run up to 9-11, and he believes that it was purposely withheld from the daily briefings on behalf of George Tenet, the then head of the CIA, and his head commissioner as well.
No one's really talked about that either.
You know, Richard Clark really could have said more during the Bush administration.
This is, I'm going to just say it's speculation because it was given to me by a source that I trust, but I was never able to confirm it.
Essentially, you know, Richard Clark doing that film, being the critical guy at the 9-11 Commission, very limited hangout.
But then after the fact, talking about the CIA keeping it from the Justice Department, keeping it from the FBI, more than likely running the unit, absolutely having Almadar.
I was told that Richard Clark, and again, I want to, it's just so I don't get sued or we don't get in trouble, that Richard Clark was a closeted homosexual.
He did not want it to come out as he has a family and a wife, and that's where, you know, his weak point was.
And we all know that they use compromised individuals at the highest levels for these certain reasons.
Can't confirm that.
Not trying to throw shade Richard's way, but hey, we have to look at these things because that's how DC works.
Everybody who doesn't understand the larger spectrum of this, that really the hijackers are just one part of this entire story, but it's a part we've been lied to again and again and again.
And we just can't be sure which hijackers were on what planes, what they actually did, because Mel, as you also know, and I know I've been on a bit of a rant here because it's reality.
No, I love it.
It's important.
It's so important.
People have to understand the level of lying that has been done to the American people.
You know, you're one guy.
I always use your thing.
And I do give you credit.
You always say it's not about left and right.
It's right and wrong.
The American people have to understand, forget what team you're on.
The level of lying to we, the people, over the last 50 Is so criminal and so sick that, you know, you're only as sick as your secrets.
Our country's very sick because of the secrets.
And you're one of the guys that's like, I'm just going to tell the truth, but it's coming so fast now that you have to.
So continue, please.
So another story that became rather large in the past several months because the mainstream media finally paid attention to it.
And actually, TMZ did a documentary of all people, right, for Hulu was United 23.
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And they go through what I covered all the way back in 2008: that you had another plane on the morning of 9-11 in which people boarded, appeared to be very upset when they weren't going to take off, left the plane, but left their luggage there.
And lo and behold, like magic, Mel, it had the same exact stuff in it that was in Ada's luggage that didn't make Flight 11.
You know, the stuff like the Koran and then chasing the plane and all these things that you would bring on a plane that was a suicide mission that would prove your guilt, right?
Yeah.
So I saw Bill Maher talk about this with the head of TMZ on his clubhouse podcast, right?
And he's like, well, there's no doubt there was another plane that was going to be hijacked that day and maybe even others.
Again, if you were watching Fabled Enemies, if you were paying attention, you would know that there were already numerous other hijackings and reports of bombs on other planes via the drills, via mistakes.
Okay, those all happened.
They were following those, many of which were coming out of Cheyenne Mountain for 20 minutes after Flight 93.
Even Time magazine did an article where they alluded to that these were inside jobs and they had found other weapons which were unspecified, so not necessarily just box cutters, Mel, on numerous other planes that day.
So that means pre-planted weapons for this operation.
We can't be sure if it was just box cutters.
In fact, in the initial reports of Flight 11, the first plane to hit the tower, it was said that there was a gun on board.
And then with the Dark Overlord documents, another little gem that came out was the person who first got that report from somebody who had called from one of the plane phones, not a cell phone or anything like that.
So that also seemed extremely significant.
Guns aren't supposed to be involved in this at all, Mel.
And if you had planted weapons beyond even the box cutters or other types of knives, if you actually had guns that got in there on multiple airports on multiple flights and those people didn't get on the plane, I didn't see any trials for these people.
I don't know about any arrests.
It was kept hush-hush, or those people were protected because it was part of the plan as well.
And the plan was to start a global war of terror that would have no definitive beginning and no definitive end, but at the same time would help erode our civil liberties and rights here as they built more and more of a police state through not only the Patriot Act and emergency use authorizations, right?
But Homeland Security and the military-industrial complex that would basically be erected out of that, that you'd start seeing fusion centers and things like the MIAC report.
And now we know about signature reduction and, you know, online and offline military personnel working within our largest companies in some cases completely covertly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I was going to ask you, because fabled enemies, you just brought that up.
And I remember seeing Ron Paul's back in the news.
And I like Ron Paul a lot.
He's been around.
But I remember he said, the war on terror is a war on tactic.
You can't have a war on a tactic.
And your movie's called Fabled Enemies.
And I wanted to kind of say, like, why did you call it that?
Because people have to start to understand that they've been that this whole military-industrial complex.
And for me, I talk about a lot the PEANAC document that came out in 2000 by all these guys where they're kind of like, we're going to take over the whole world.
It's like a Darth Vader wrote it.
And we're going to take over the whole world militarily before 9-11.
You know, you've talked about before.
The Patriot Act was written before 9-11.
Then all this stuff happens.
So Fabled Enemies is a great title for what we've been dealing with because now we're the terrorists.
Anyone telling the truth online are now the domestic terrorists.
Then they roll out this Restrict Act that has nothing to do with TikTok.
And I'm just seeing everything you've been talking about for now, all these years is just falling into place.
And you can't deny that this is all, you know, conspiracy, whatever.
Yeah, two people getting together for nefarious reasons to do what they're doing.
It certainly seems that way.
And we're seeing again and again and again.
And I chose the name Fabled Enemies really because of the revelations that were made about bin Laden and his network throughout this.
For instance, you know, another thing that's big on fabled enemies because we're not talking about the physical anomalies like we do in lose change.
We're sticking to this network.
And we talk about in the very beginning again how a lot of these guys were trained at U.S. military bases and were protected and followed by the FBI.
And those on the inside of the FBI that were trying to do their jobs, like Robert Wright and others, were actually reprimanded.
And it's funny, you know, Tom Fitton is sitting there, Judicial Watch next to Robert Wright.
And it's like two sides of the same coin because Larry Klayman's on the other side.
And, you know, Larry Klayman deposed Roger Stone and they were hissing at each other, right?
And at the same time, Tom Fitton's now become the face of Judicial Watch, where he was much younger.
But they're talking about the money movement of the Yassin Qadi bin Laden network.
And even Cynthia McKinney, who at the time was a congresswoman, discussed how we were giving money not only to the bin Laden family and bin Laden construction, but to support military networks that were erected via the Soviet clash with the Afghanis when they were freedom fighters.
And it's now open knowledge.
Anybody can go check it out.
Pakistani ISI, who was also funding the hijackers here, was part of the network with U.S. intelligence and the bin Ladens during that time period.
And Bin Laden himself and that network was receiving support and funding through BCCI, which will be the biggest banking scandal of its day.
So once again, I call it fabled enemies because once you find out, oh my God, the Bush is vacationed with the bin Ladens and these are billionaire buddies and they're working in covert programs together.
And actually, here's a picture of Osama very westernized with his family.
And then you find out the Tim Osman information that he did come to the United States and he did have a code name.
I was just like, I guess it's not just Arab Muslims in caves that hate us for our freedoms.
And those are the fabled enemies.
The real enemy is a free-thinking humanity that is rooted in an actual democratic system via a constitutional republic.
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They want none of that.
What they want is track, trace, database, complete control.
What they instituted in the Middle East, whether people realize it or not, DARPA got to beta test their babies there.
Biometric eye scans of the entire population when they would take over in Afghanistan and Iraq, drone warfare in the skies that would evolve greatly over the last two decades, be commercialized because they end up having this technology for 30, 40 years before we actually see it.
But to mass produce it, they have to wait.
You know, they have to wait until business catches up and that it's acceptable, and then they put them on large-scale accelerated programs.
The big dog by DARPA would be another great example.
So all of a sudden, you got big dogs walking around that gets commercialized, miniaturized into now spot that's in beer commercials here.
All right.
So the war of terror was a lot of things.
Again, you built the infrastructure here.
You got to play with your toys there.
And now you're bringing the toys here ever more.
I'm sure you saw that the NYPD now for the second time.
I thought of you.
Yep.
Tried to institute one of these other types of robots that usually, at least in this country, has been used in private gated communities as security.
And right away, I think it ended up in one of the ponds or something.
It fell down some stairs.
Didn't make it.
These things are a bad joke, but it shows you how badly they want an automated system that is completely unaccountable.
And they want to, what, demonize human beings and human behavior at every level and say, hey, we're incompetent.
We can't be trusted.
Let's automate it out.
And we're seeing that now, even in the big tech companies.
That's the big secret, Mel.
It's not that Facebook is just laying off 1,000 here, 5,000 there, 10,000 here.
It's that that's going to happen everywhere.
Even Elon Muskernuts, 8,000 to 1,500.
It wasn't because they don't want to moderate content.
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You know, it was because a bunch of people were doing work that can now actually be done by chat bots and mass automation.
You're worthless.
If you got a communications degree and you don't know the ins and outs of your jobs, you don't have people skills.
Hey, guess what?
You're out.
It's over.
That's just one little thing.
A lot of people are going to be automated out in the next five to 10 years.
And I think that we're going to see an acceleration of that in tech companies, et cetera, as the economy goes down in the next 18 months here.
But there's just so many wildcards right now on the global stage of whether we're going to have anything close to a free and fair election in 2024, whether or not we're going to be in some kind of even more nightmarish conflict with Russia via the Ukraine,
and whether or not the dollar is going to be able to hold up at least societally here for the next 18 months and not cause a depression the likes we haven't seen in almost 100 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, there's so much chaos right now.
That's why it's really important.
I send people to you all the time because you really are good at cutting through, like, because the chaos is crazy.
Here's the part that's really upsetting me.
You just brought up our constitutional republic.
You know, they call it a democracy.
When we've talked about it, you've made documentaries on it.
Project Mockingbird and that the CIA was involved in our media.
Now, Elon Musk, you know, we both have varied opinions on him, but he's putting out there on a lot of the media, legacy media, state-controlled media.
I happen to believe that the Pentagon, especially after this current leak, which I want you to take on with this 21-year-old kid, I happen to think that the Pentagon and the Intel agencies are the media.
I don't think that there's any difference.
I don't think we have a functioning democracy or a constitutional republic, as we're told, if there is no real information getting to the people except for through your show and some other shows, but only if you seek it.
The people in the mass scale that are sitting around being like, you know, I hate Donald Trump.
I'll never vote for him.
I'd rather stick with Joe Biden no matter what happens to America.
And you're thinking, what?
What is going on?
And at the end of the day, like, I don't think there's a difference anymore.
Do you?
I don't think there's a difference.
I mean, I think that's really illustrated with this last quote-unquote leak.
Allegedly.
What's your take on that?
Yeah, allegedly, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and Bellingcat worked with intelligence agencies to get this kid.
And allegedly, it came from a 21-year-old kid who's a National Guardsman who was basically sharing this stuff via Discord servers, which by their very nature, Mel, I don't think are that secure.
Okay, I want to put that out there.
The idea that somehow this was going on and people didn't know really raised alarm bells in my head to start with one.
Then, when I didn't know much about it, this is before Tucker did his report, and we'll get to that report in a moment.
I said, the way the media is covering it, at least for now, is that the documents paint the picture that by the beginning to mid-May, Ukraine's going to be devastated and going to lose the war.
This would cause us to what?
Have to give them more money, more equipment, and more troops.
Now, that's what they were reporting on.
I've seen no down-the-middle media coverage of what is in the documents.
Now, you also had, I forget what his name is.
It's not Tony Blinken, it's the other guy, Lloyd Austin.
Lloyd Austin come out and talk about the documents and then say some of the documents had been doctored.
We know some of the documents had been doctored.
I've seen no evidence of that either.
And what was interesting to me about the documents is it looked like these weren't just PDF files.
Somebody physically had them in their hands, and then there were pictures taken, and they were presented that way in many cases.
Right.
Now, when he got arrested and people were trying to paint him as a Christian, white nationalist, et cetera, et cetera, I already knew that at least the mainstream media version was going to be in on what happened.
Nobody talked about at all in the press corps the contents of the documents.
Just, how can we stop these leaks?
We need to be more secure.
Oh, my goodness.
That's not journalism.
Like you said, that's holding water for the intelligence agencies and exactly what they would want them to do.
Now, where I go back to my initial, this may have been a controlled leak.
There was a guest that kind of confirmed this for me over on Judge Napolitano's show.
And he said, you know, I was inclined to believe that until I saw some of the documents that were high-level CIA and NSA documents, and under no circumstances should this kid, 21, had any access to these things.
And he made the point that the only people that would, that would be able to get all these military documents and CIA documents would be the National Security Agency.
So here is my working theory with this whole thing right now.
One, I think that the kid is probably genuine.
I think that the way that he got them, he was probably approached by somebody who may have been in these gamer forums.
So in other words, you monitor these forums and you get a profile on somebody, and you got some kid that's, he's in the National Guard.
He's a weekend warrior.
He does two weeks a year.
And he's pissed.
His buddies that are actually in the military are end up going over to Ukraine and he knows they're lying.
So he might be talking shit online with other guys that are in the military.
They find that he'd probably be the most motivated individual to put it out there.
Someone enters the gamer forum or has been in the gamer forum and gets compromised or was an informant in the first place.
All right, let's use this to our advantage.
We need more funding for this war.
Most Americans aren't for it, but as we send more and more of our troops, just like in the war of terror, they're going to have to get behind it some way because their kids are there, right?
Even Robert Kennedy Jr., who's about to run for the president, probably have my vote, talks about his son and Ukraine and want to go to Ukraine and fight.
And, you know, they want to build that mantra.
So now you know your guy that you're leaking it to.
You kind of know his past and how you're going to be able to shape it once you catch him.
And you have a cooperative media that's only going to really report on what you want to report.
But then guys like Tucker Carlson are going to put out the fact that what?
It's seven deaths of every Ukrainian for one Russian death.
They're overrunning them in equipment militarily despite our efforts.
Now, that's all true.
And we've heard the opposite of that here because we're hearing Johnny nonsense like this, this mother trucker's like Churchill, right?
Little Rambo man.
Churchill, he's Churchill.
Like, you know, I watched so much World War I and World War II stuff.
It's kind of my thing.
Yeah.
You'd be shocked, the parallels between World War I and World War II right now, especially with the League of Nations and Grandstanding and even the Middle East.
There are so many parallels there.
And the parallel now is we are receiving full throttle propaganda from all angles.
And I think that this is part of it, right?
And you're not going to, on display now, again, you have somebody who's really a whistleblower, put out real information that is going to be eviscerated by the media and the military-industrial complex and used to make an example of.
All right.
Putting fear into people.
You also get your narrative out there.
Zombie Jay is apparently going nowhere.
I mean, he's rolling an egg and he's pushing it out, apparently.
I don't know if you've seen those interviews, but he's there.
So whatever they want, he's going to sign off on.
And it's the post-truth world.
The media is going to go along with it.
The only place you're going to see any kind of pushback is via social media, which is highly controlled.
And as you know, is going to take down the stuff they really don't like.
So, you know, I'm worried about it.
I think it's a big story.
I wish more people would do dives on the documents themselves and come at the angle that I'm coming at.
You know, watch the press conferences.
That's something that's been available to us as the alternative media for quite some time.
That I feel like so many of these talking heads, Mal, don't utilize.
It's like, hey, nothing's going on in that room that you don't get to see or hear.
Like, most of the time, those things are streamed five, ten minutes before they get there.
You can hear Rumble in the back.
Another two, three minutes until they're done.
If you'll take the time to listen to the lies and the posturing and then report on stuff that's not in the headlines, I mean, you're doing more work than the mainstream anyway.
And again, I think it's also convenient that you have Lloyd Austin saying that some of the documents are doctored.
So if anything goes too far or the American people get behind one point too much, they'll just say that's fake.
It's not real.
It's magic.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just, it's so disturbing at this point, though, that so many people, it appears, in America really don't get it.
Now, you just brought up RFK Jr.
And what I noticed right away is all the same people, because I watched that in the beginning when everything came out.
And, you know, these are the people that go after, you know, obviously Trump, but you know, the whole QAnon movement, that was their big, it's the same writers.
And then, and then anyone that put out things after that, you know, about the election.
So they went after all the lawyers that were questioning 2020.
Now they're going after RFK Jr.
And I mean, calling him a quack.
The whole Kennedy family's turning on him.
He's a, you know, it's a joke, the worst candidate ever, you know, the Atlantic, Daily Beast, all that right away.
These same guys, obviously operatives to destroy anything and use anything they can to muddy the waters.
What do you make of RFK Jr. throwing himself in?
And A, and B, do you think that I feel like they're going to, I think it's very dangerous for him.
I mean, I admire that he's doing it.
Lots of courage.
His family has a bad track record with standing up and fighting.
So, you know, it takes an extra special person to say, I'm going to follow in their footsteps, but it does feel that way.
Yeah, you know, it is wild because we're living in a time where most people realize that that man's father and uncle were brutally murdered in the public arena while they held esteemed office in this country.
And of course, his father was announcing he was going to be running for the president.
That guy's alive.
Like, he's alive.
And he's been pretty damn politically active the last 20 plus years.
And more cases than not, in my opinion, has been on the right side of history.
And just as you said, immediately, boom, all these media Muppets are saying the same thing.
Kookie anti-vaxxer throws his hat into the arena.
And the question is: you know, can he get into all the primary debates?
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We've seen the Democrats in the past get Tulsi Gabber so she couldn't join the debate.
And then when she did get in the debate, she gets two minutes out of three hours.
Like, of course, they're going to try to do that with Robert Kennedy Jr.
I think he's real.
And I have a lot of disagreements with the man outside of vaccines.
But at the same time, man, show me a bigger name in the Democratic Party that said that the Defense Department ran this and that Moderna and Pfizer just kind of slapped their label on it.
That's a big thing.
That's a big deal.
You know, that's not really something that you'll hear from most candidates on the right or even people that are telling the truth there.
And, you know, you mentioned QAnon, and I don't think that I've been on the show since we had the bombshell revelation that no one seemed to pick up on, especially in the alternative media.
And I think a lot of that has to do with, again, them not really looking at the case, just listening to other people about it, and then also kind of adhering to the grift of the audience that still want to believe the nonsense.
So the Douglas Mackey meme case was so much more than just a meme.
What people don't understand is that is the network that was pre-QAnon and was QAnon and created QAnon, and they were the Russian bot farm because there was no Russian bot farm.
So on one hand, while the FBI was telling you that the Russians had bot farms and had interfered in the election, the reality was that it was Douglas Mackey, it was Microchip, who we're going to get into in a moment.
And that's a whole story and extremely important.
Justin McConney, and apparently, allegedly, the MAGA 3X online movement, which included a ton of different influencers.
They mention, I believe, Mike Cernovich by name, who was talking to these guys.
So I want to reiterate this.
There were never any Russians.
The FBI knew it.
They were still pissed.
And they went after the people that actually did sway the election effectively online and basically get a ton of traffic to these things by flipping a man named Microchip.
So this is what people don't understand about the Mackie case: it wasn't just about posting these memes.
They were extremely effective.
And Microchip and Mackie had actually even bought the phone number that they texted and spoofed it so that if you texted the number, something came back.
Okay.
And Mackie and basically he was the Ricky Vaughn character.
They all admitted that basically they didn't necessarily vet or check the information.
They would just try to make things go viral.
So in other words, there was legitimate stuff for Petogate for sure, like the email about the farm.
But if you could promote an adrenochrome meme or Hillary was behind some kind of sex trafficking thing at the pizza shop itself, you would let that go viral.
Now, the interesting thing about Microchip is that in 2018, and this actually happened on my show amongst other places, he and a group at DEF CON were basically outed as the originators of the 4chan post and the direction of that post that became Q.
Okay.
Now, Jack Pasobic, who was also on the inside of some of the people who were in this shit posting group, who also include James Brower, who we're going to get to in a moment, did a piece where he interviewed Microchip, and Microchip actually came on and explained how he and others had created it, Brower in particular.
And Brower was a low-level guy working in the Trump campaign.
And he was also like basically not only a shit poster, but he was the guy that took the Las Vegas shooting theory that put it with ISIS in the Middle East and popularized that on Alex Jones.
So these guys just love to trick people.
They're all terrible people.
They got off on the power of controlling the narrative.
That was the main goal of them, other than the fact that Microchip also loved the fact that he was able to direct the narrative.
Now, I was never able to get Microchip on my show.
I got Browcho.
Watch your show.
I can understand why.
I was trying.
At the time, I got a guy named James Brower and DeFango, who may or may not have been a-yes.
And they were trying to sell me on the idea that, what, Microchip was a massage agent or Microchip was in Israel.
And Microchip, to my knowledge, no one's ever seen his face.
Guess what?
They protected him in court, Mel.
He didn't even have to give his name.
And they admitted they flipped him in 2018 by charging him.
So before that conversation happened on my show, Microchip was already working with the FBI.
Now, what's even crazier is, despite the fact that he's working for the FBI for three years, they still charge him with unspecified crimes, all right, in 2021.
And they're arresting more people in this network now.
So we don't know who's been flipped since 2018, but we know Microchip has.
They're protecting his identity.
He testified in court against Mackie.
And Mackie said he had never seen him in person physically.
This would be the first time.
So, I don't know what he looks like, you know, but there's also the very real possibility that his identity was actually protected there.
In other words, he was wearing an outfit.
Now, I want to point everybody to this BuzzFeed article.
Never mind the Russians, meet the bot king who helped Trump win Twitter.
Now, I don't agree with all of it, obviously.
I'm going to tell people to take these things with the green of salt, but this is 2017.
And we're just going to show you this one part.
Indeed, in a national atmosphere charged by unproven accusations about a massive network of Russian social media influence, the story of how Microchip helped build the most notorious pro-Trump Twitter network seems almost mundane.
Less a technologically daunting intelligence operation than a clever patchworking of tools nearly any computer illiterate person could manage.
It also suggests that some of the current Russian Trump hysteria may be, well, a hysteria.
It's all us, not the Russians, Microchip said.
Manipulating Minds00:12:23
And we're not going to stop.
About a year after he gets the FBI visit, they find him.
So no one's talking about this aspect of the Mac.
No one is.
No one.
Honestly, nobody is.
And it needs to be talked about because people are still out there.
And I can't tell you how many times.
You know, I started this.
I started watching you and other people before I even started doing my own show, obviously.
And it was hard to tell.
I mean, these people are whoever is manipulating the minds of people on all sides.
These are brilliant people that I believe at the core are truly psychopaths and sociopaths.
And they don't care at all about who they're deceiving.
But we are at a place, Jason, and I know you know this, America's in serious trouble, okay?
And the divide and conquer is working better than planned, as far as I'm concerned, on both sides.
Everyone is fighting amongst themselves.
Now, you have the big issues we can never agree on: the abortion, the immigration, all that.
Then you have the little issues or some of these little things that are totally fraudulent and fake.
We have a totally controlled media that is government-sponsored media.
So, right now, everyone's fighting amongst themselves.
And all I keep saying is nobody's understanding the goal is to end America.
Like, the goal is to take America and destroy it.
No nation state, no constitution, no bill of rights.
Once America's gone, we can have what we want in our technocratic, you know, you know, you got the who, you got the IMF announcing that they really are the central bank digital currency.
All this stuff happening, and the American people are insanely fighting with each other, or they're still caught up on the hate Orange Band, you know.
And yet, you know, you're going to meet people out there.
I've been around lately just talking to anyone I could.
People, I'm going to vote for Biden again if it's Biden Trump, because it's okay.
You know, I'd rather that.
And you're thinking, how would you rather that?
But this is where I want to go with you, okay?
Because you watch it from the front lines.
We are in a serious danger here.
How do we get people to understand?
You're not on different teams.
There are no teams.
So hard, especially with the mainstream, right?
Like, we're forced kind of into this pseudo-reality where, like, you're talking to some mentally deranged people that psychological warfare has gone extremely far on.
And they can't acknowledge the fact that Joe Biden obviously has dementia.
They knew this from the outset, that he doesn't control anything.
And that not only can he not go anywhere in a public arena with hundreds or thousands of people because he'll get not only booed, but we now have a code term that originates from the media lying to us about Joe Biden called Let's Go Brandon.
So, you know, I know everybody knows Let's Go Brandon.
To remember that only started because people at a NASCAR race early on were saying F Joe Biden, and this woman was interviewing a guy named Brandon and didn't know what to do.
And now, Mel, again, we're in a gaslit reality where they want to separate us at every level.
And Donald Trump can show up to a UFC event with Kid Rock, who just gunned down a bunch of Bud Light and should be the most hated, bigoted man in America.
Instead, they get standing ovations in an arena of tens of thousands of people.
And this is important.
If you're dumb enough to think the only people in an arena that go see UFC are Republicans, you'll believe anything.
That's right.
That's like, again, ridiculous.
Sports are one of the things that brings us together.
Especially that sport.
I mean, you know.
I mean, everybody watches.
It's the most growing sport in the world.
And I get it.
They're in Florida.
No, not everybody votes red in Florida.
Miami.
Not at all.
Exactly.
It's lunacy.
And when we talk about the Let's Go Brandon thing, once again, you know, I played this clip in the same week that that happened with Trump and Mazadall gets in there and gets a Let's Go Brandon chant.
Again, people are literally saying F the president.
Right.
You've got an Adidas child youth wrestling thing where I don't think any of the competitors were over 10.
Talking hundreds of kids, Mel.
Hundreds of kids.
They're families everywhere.
They're in an arena.
Now, the arena is not filled up, but I've been into those things.
Everybody's got mom, dad, maybe grandma or grandpa.
Right.
They're chanting Let's Go Brandon and the parents don't have a problem with it.
Like, nobody's like, hey, get my kid out of there.
No, it's the online lunatics that are promoting a false reality.
The same ones that won't look at the 9-11 article or the documents because it's labeled Russian disinformation by Facebook.
You know, an organization that openly manipulated the narrative on the run-up to the election still manipulates the narrative.
And whose owner, who sat there with the UFC guy at a private event, by the way, like again, that should show you not a left-to-right issue.
You know, everybody's doing it.
He donated $400 million to the zombie.
Like, right, totally.
Yeah, I mean, then that's where we are.
The other thing is what you're talking about.
And we continue on that case about microchip and all those guys, because the truth is, there are a lot of people out there that are, you know, right of center or totally, you know, I feel like the extremes on both sides are totally psychopaths.
I don't even, I don't, I don't understand.
And I'm talking both sides.
I don't even think there's sides.
You know that.
I think there's a, you know, they're all being deceived on every level that there are no parties.
It's like literally either you're going to be saving America or you're going to sit it out and lose everything.
And I don't want anything to talk to you about.
But there are people that believe that the military somehow is in control and going to come save us.
There are people out there that swear to God that Trump did this or Trump said that.
And I know it not to be true.
So, and you know, and everyone, like I always say, I hope I'm wrong, but I believe nobody is coming to save us.
And the only people that are going to save us are us.
And it's still out there.
And it's still being promoted.
And that just means more and more people are going to sit it out.
Either on one side thinking, you know, I'd rather the world implode than vote for Donald Trump, no matter what.
And then you got the other side being like, well, somebody's going to come save us at some point.
That's not going to happen.
And that's where, like, this whole misinformation and what you're digging up and what you're saying, it matters.
All three things you talked about today are so key in where we are in America.
And that's what I think needs to bring us together is it's all, we're all being deceived equally.
Absolutely.
And like you said, the extremes on both ends, I would encourage you all to have discernment.
You know, I understand that a lot of people on the right are going to come from a traditional conservative value set, right?
And there's going to be an evangelical aspect.
And I don't think that's necessarily negative, but you can't let it blindside you.
And I understand a lot of these people are just waking up and they're seeing, oh my God, I was lied to about 9-11.
Oh my God, I was lied to about the war on terror.
Oh my God, I was lied to about the COVID-19 44 nightmare.
Don't go off the deep end and start reposting videos that go viral saying that Biden's wearing a mask and it's not Joe Biden.
Listen, that's Joe Biden.
I've tried to explain.
His skin looks like that from the numerous amounts of plastic surgery and the numerous amounts of Botox and things they're actually shooting into him.
It's not, again, that same crowd that'll tell you the military is in control and they're giving you a wink and a nod by having some act.
People have said Jim Carrey, James Woods is another one that ended up my feet.
And I'm just like, you're a lunatic.
You're not sitting down.
You're watching a compressed video that's 15 seconds of an old man's skin.
What you're not watching is the guy's press tour, which isn't a press tour where he can't speak, where children are going, hey, how do you get to Taupe of Success?
And he's like, Top of Success?
Well, you got to stop COVID.
We can't have people with COVID.
And then Hunter has to come in.
Have you seen this video yet?
Because if you haven't, it's a must-watch.
Well, where he's talking to the kids, and the kid just, he takes one question from the kid.
And the kid is in Ireland and he says, you know, what, you know, what brings you to the top of success?
And he can't understand.
He's like, how do you be successful?
So he immediately harkens back to the COVID emergency that he's been at his talking points.
And he's like, well, you got to make sure nobody's got COVID.
So Hunter actually has to step in for his father.
He goes, Dad, Dad, he's asking you how to be successful.
And he mumbles for a second.
He goes, I'm probably not the best person to ask about that.
Like, that's the planet we're on.
Dude, was that in any report on by any news agency?
I would say even the conservatives in the right miss that because they're not watching the unedited stuff.
They're watching all this.
I had a friend call me, somebody I like, listen, a long time ago, I wanted to believe as much as I could.
But the more you listen to people, and I recommend you to everyone, the more you listen to people like you that actually pull out the documents and the facts and that this isn't true.
And then there's other people, this happened, that happened, and I can't find it anywhere.
And I've learned through you and a bunch of other people, you know, if you can't find it here, there's other options.
Like there's different ways you can find stuff.
If it's absolutely not provable, nobody, it shouldn't be said.
But now we're at a place where, you know, I just really feel like this country is in super danger and doesn't get it.
And I really, it's disturbing to watch.
And I can't stress more that anyone that thinks that, you know, somehow Donald Trump is still in control of anything and allowing what's happening to happen to him, his family, everyone around him, and all of that, it doesn't make any sense to me.
And what you're saying about Joe Biden, too, this is another thing.
So people say, so you think that's really Joe Biden?
I said, he might have doubles, but I think that Joe Biden exists and that he is president.
And then they get really upset about this and that.
And then I say, you know how many people would have to be in on it?
You know how many people would have to be committed and in on it on all sides for them to pull off what you're saying?
You know, it's not Hollywood.
It's not a movie.
It's real life.
And, you know, maybe they could get a few people, but it's just, it's cognitive dissonance on both sides.
And it's just, it's really a scary time.
So, before I let you go, a couple, anything that you can say to people to kind of, you know, really stress where we are and how, you know, for me, it's like tough love.
I feel like we're, like I keep saying, we need like a 12-step AA recovery meeting, but it's Americans Anonymous.
And you kind of got to go in and leave all your crap outside and just admit we've hit rock bottom.
Let me say this again.
You have to be in control of your own life.
Things as a country are not going to get better.
Okay.
You have to be able to have a skill set, be mobile, be ready for any type of emergency, and have a plan for you and your family.
That's one.
Two, all hope is not lost.
Yes, this system's awful.
It is terrible.
We're in a bad shape.
But again, if you're following the real news, you know, I've come on here and I've talked about the recent Epstein cases.
We've had progress in that.
We've now had Pritzker, Bryn, okay, Diamond, and others actually get served in this latest case with the Virgin Islands, where Jess Staley is accused of having conversations about trafficking women with Epstein.
Now, there's another break in that story that nobody seems to be covering, and that's what I'm going to end on: is that billionaire Les Wexner is also going to be served.
Okay, he's been able to dodge subpoenas so far in this case, where, again, some people have alluded to him to be the head of the snake through bodyguards.
Burmese Lawyer's Progress00:03:42
And I want to remind this to people that are traveling on these different sides or ultra-conservative.
Dershowitz is still that guy's lawyer.
Now, whether you believe Dershowitz and Epstein, you know, he was just getting massages from old women or whatever.
I constantly see that guy on conservative shows and even alternative shows, and people coming to bat for him and defending him.
He's the lawyer for Wexner right now.
Stop with the demons.
Stop with the demons.
Look in the mirror and be honest with yourself.
And do you believe the high-powered lawyer, all right, that's on television that helped Epstein get the sweetheart deal and has kept Wexner's nose clean up to this moment is a good guy?
F no.
F no.
So it starts, Mel, with being honest with yourself and then taking that not as, oh man, I wish I didn't know this and ignorance is bliss, but knowledge is power.
How can I better prepare myself and my family for disaster in case it comes?
Because as you know, Mel, and as we've met through the years, it's certainly come in spades in this country.
And I don't expect it to stop anytime soon.
No, me neither.
Me neither.
And really, as I tell everyone all the time, and I'm really excited as I see you grow, I get so excited because I found, I honestly, you turned me around almost three years ago.
And so many people I've sent to you, they're like, did you see that on Burmese?
And I'm like, ah, he's doing it.
So can you tell you're everywhere now?
And I love it.
Everyone, please, you should follow Jason Burmese if you want the real news.
There's so few people doing it.
He's been doing it for a long time.
He has no fear.
He's just going to tell you the truth.
Please tell everyone where they can find you now.
Yeah.
So I'm live Monday through Thursday, 8 a.m. over at redvoicemedia.com.
It's across all platforms.
Although, for some reason, we're not able to stream to Twitter anymore.
I hope it's a bug.
I just bought my blue check mark.
Been waiting a week.
We'll see, Mr. Musk.
Am I getting it?
Am I getting it?
Or am I also shadow banned?
We don't know.
Whatever.
I also host another show sometimes for American Media Periscope called Making Sense of the Madness.
And this week, I'll actually be hosting that three times.
I hosted it twice last week.
I've been on that show.
That's a good show.
Good for you.
You're probably awesome.
I love you on that show.
Great.
Yeah, so I actually wear a suit jacket and everything for it.
I clean up okay.
I do, guys.
And, you know, that's more of an interview show.
Last week we had Marion Hinane talking about her George Floyd documentary, and then Simon Essler talking about his documentary on not only the transgender issue, but the issue of targeting children for all types of surgeries and going after their insecurities as a stepping stone.
So, really important stuff.
I'm a blessed guy.
And, you know, I even call MMA fights every once in a while.
Go check out my Caged Aggression, the trilogy from last month.
See again, have some fun.
You'll see my fun side.
We're not talking about politics or 9-11.
We're just watching people punch each other in the face and kick.
It's okay.
And Mel, I want to thank you because you've introduced me to a ton of people who I don't necessarily agree with and wouldn't necessarily know otherwise that I've had, you know, really fulfilling interactions and communications with.
So thank you.
Well, thank you, Jason Burmes.
I think you're the best.
And I tell everyone, if you want to know what's going on, you follow Jason Burmese.
At least you'll be ahead of the curve.
Because that's the truth about you.
You've actually been reporting on a lot of this stuff, Jason, for years.
And you hit it way before people.
And then when it catches up, you're already there.
So I really admire you and your work.
And I'm really grateful every time you come on the show.