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The media lied to you yet again about the meme case.
Gave you a small, small, little, eensy-weensy, tiny bit of the story.
Which really was a means to an end.
And I'm going to be very careful in this video.
And I want to say this right away.
There's going to be a lot of speculation in this video.
There has to be.
By the nature of what happened in this case.
And you're going to understand what I mean when I inform you of the huge piece of the puzzle that Was barely mentioned in the mainstream media.
I mean, it was in the New York Times.
Slipped by me. This all happened Wednesday.
Okay? A couple other publications.
But the significance of what happened is enormous.
Enormous. So, we're going to be talking about some unsavory characters.
That's number one.
I'm going to be extremely careful when I say who may or may not have gotten a visit from or may be working with the FBI because that's the big scoop in this.
So what am I talking about?
Number one, I want to say that the sources I'm going to use today, I don't agree with all the time.
Most of the time, I don't at all.
And even the spin on some of this stuff is really important to go over.
Now, supposedly what I'm looking at right here is a sketch of the infamous internet troll, not Mackie, not Ricky Vaughn, Not Douglas Mackey, not Ricky Vaughn, not the person that was just convicted and got 10 years, but somebody named Microchip online.
And why do I go somebody named Microchip?
Because this person was allowed to testify under oath at the case under that guise.
Think about that for a minute.
This person had their identity protected.
Now, the drawing is supposedly from someone who was in the courtroom.
I'll say this.
I wasn't there.
I haven't seen the transcripts of the case.
Now, there are a lot of quotes that you're going to see via New York Times if you start looking into this.
Okay? And...
In this Unicorn Riot piece, I think it's really important because there's another spin to it that we'll get to in a minute.
I mean, this case is huge and everybody's not talking about it.
Not talking about the main thing.
So what Microchip does is he testifies against Mackie that it's not just a meme, okay, but that they were actually trying to defraud Alright?
The American people and voters.
In fact, when they tell you about the meme, allegedly, according to the case records, Microchip testifies that they actually set up the number to be texted to give a return message.
And the prosecutors made the case something like over 4,000.
I think it was like 4,500 or something.
People actually used that.
And that's where they got into...
The basis of the fraud cases.
Now the other thing that's interesting about Microchip is that he had been working with the FBI in 2018.
Alright? So he became an informant, worked with them from 2018.
But, there's more.
They still charge him.
Okay? They still charge him.
Man, Bing, stop it.
See, I have Skype, and then Microsoft is screwing me somehow, trying to give me notifications from a Bing AI out of nowhere.
I don't want you to help me at all.
I'm not prompting you.
And that's the unserious portion of the broadcast, okay?
Why is all this huge?
Because this is the network, in my opinion, that actually started the QAnon sense.
And we're going to present the information and the evidence for that.
So number one, this guy, Microchip, is the Russian bot farm.
And as far as I can tell, he's not Russian at all.
Who his identity is, we're going to get into in a bit.
You understand that?
It's... What?
So, this is it.
This destroys their narrative of Russia, Russia, Russia, and Russia interfering with any election.
Let me repeat that. That's why this is huge.
Now, let me show you something.
There's actually an interview with Microchip all the way back in 2017 with BuzzFeed by Joseph Bernstein.
I would absolutely encourage everybody to read this because...
Did we not?
Sorry about that. Because if you read it...
Read this.
Indeed, in a national atmosphere charged by unproven accusations about a massive network of Russian social media influence...
And they still go with this lie.
They're arresting now, charging and flipping the people that actually did this stuff that they said were Russians...
Okay? That's what's huge about this.
And when I get into this network, you have to ask yourself who at least got a visit from
the FBI and who's working with the FBI and why now.
All right.
The story of how microchip helped build the most notorious pro-Trump Twitter network seems
almost mundane.
Less a technologically daunting intelligence operation than a clever patchworking of tools
nearly any computer literate person could manage.
It also suggests that some of the current Russian Trumbot hysteria may be well a hysteria.
Bye.
It's all us, not the Russians, microchip said.
And we're not going to stop.
Now, this is 2017.
Now, like I said, we're going to talk about some unsavory individuals in this.
But I can't specify the gravity of what we're talking about here.
So, let's put it into perspective.
They're telling you Russia hacked the election and that Russian bots got into social media.
That's not true. It's Ricky Vaughn, Douglas Mackey, as one of the pro-generators and tweeters from what I understand Microchip was doing.
He explains, if you go to the Unicorn Riot one, He talks about basically the bot farms that he would hire to elevate his posts.
And then they would go into networks via chat rooms that would have individuals allegedly, in these court documents, that are Michael Cernovich and a man connected to Peter Thiel.
Now, first of all, I want to say that You know, I have no idea what Teal would be involved in, but there's a MAGA 3X. Okay, so basically, within this movement, or whatever you want to call it, you had people that were obviously dominating social media.
You could not get away from the memes.
And the narrative was the Russians.
Not the Russians.
It's these guys. And Gusea apparently worked with him.
Remember, Teal was the technology advisor under the Trump administration in the beginning.
We have to also put that in too.
And this document that they're talking about that outlines it, basically outlines networks of how they can elevate their message.
And that's just factual.
Again, not accusing these people of anything.
But what I am saying to you is...
That everyone's acting like this is a case about a guy posting a meme and then that.
No. They charged Microchip.
We don't know what they charged him with.
But he flipped. And now...
This guy has said to...
In some of these articles, people couldn't find him through private investigators.
He was using multiple VPNs.
I believe in this courtroom he said he was out of Utah.
Said he was a private app programmer.
Again, you can't trust almost anything these people say because they're doing what's called shitposting in most cases.
Now... They'll glom on to stories that are real and then they'll put a conspiracy angle to it that's not real.
Or they'll glom on to what is on message boards and popular and then make you think it's real.
And that's a lot of what the QAnon sense was.
We're going to get to the genesis of this, of what I believe it was.
Who knows how much time we're going to have.
I have so many clips. Basically, they're not so many clips.
I have the breakdown of how, and this is a contested thing, let's say that right now, but how these guys also started Q. And by these guys, from what I've seen, and none of these people are to be trusted, Microchip, James Brouwer, And Defango are amongst the players.
And look, I want to say this right now.
Defango's not to be trusted.
We're actually going to show you one of his timelines, though.
Because none of these people can be trusted because they all LARP for a living.
They're liars. Brower later recants his role in what you're about to see.
I'm going to show you an OAN piece from Jack Posobiec so people can get a beat on On why I think this is how it started.
Basically, DEF CON hackers slash shitposters getting together.
I think Defango inflates his role, but he was definitely there behind the scenes in the beginning.
You just see...
You see these logs, and apparently there are some people saying these logs are totally fake.
In fact, Brower says that they're faked now.
But Brower also, when he recanted, this is post-2019, he says in 2018 he was a bad person.
I interviewed Defango and Brower in 2019, and we're going to do a watch-along with that towards the end of the first hour.
Uh, into the premium section.
You could still find this.
I haven't watched it in four plus years.
It's January, I believe, 19th, uh, 2019.
And they're obviously trying to get me to believe lies because they get off on that.
So the big lie that I believe that they're trying to, um, they've been trying to promote via, via this whole thing.
Is basically, since Microchip seems to be the mastermind of this tale of the beginning of Q, that he's actually Israeli Mossad, or now Defango literally tagged me last week on Twitter, or maybe it was even this week on Twitter, I guess it's Monday, last week on Twitter, saying that Microchip admitted low-key he was IDF, a.k.a.
Israeli Defense Force. I haven't seen any evidence of that.
And then Defango was in the morning chat with his Griftcast IRL, basically in the live chat.
And I immediately, as soon as I saw Defango going nuts in there, saying, hey, it's your boy Defango.
Banning it. Why am I banned?
Jason, why would you ban?
Listen, these guys catch court cases.
Alright? I don't want to end up in court at all.
That's why we're going to be extremely careful today.
Extremely! Extremely careful.
Defango is also a part of Shadowbox...
With Thomas Schoenberger, possibly the most unsavory character of this whole thing that we're going to discuss here.
And they're involved by being hired by Butowski during the Seth Rich case.
Now, Seth Rich in that story is one in which gets promoted.
Via this network of MAGA 3X and beyond.
And look, that's what I mean by glomming onto some reality and real stories and then elevate them.
Let me give you another example how these people have really poisoned the well.
Now, allegedly it's their feeling that they did this Number one, just to elevate the message.
To try to get Trump elected.
They didn't care what they posted or who they heard or whether it was real or not.
That was the main goal.
Just listen. Get him elected.
Who cares what else? And to me, you know how I feel.
I don't feel like any of that.
The ends don't justify the means.
Lies don't make friends.
Period. Lies are lies.
That's it. They don't feel that way.
Alright? That's not...
That's not in their cards.
And by the way, psychological operations of the military-industrial complex, they feel the same way, basically, as these guys do.
Alright? So, you have this mix.
Now, the Podesta emails, there was obviously something going on there.
I'm going to be, again, very, very careful here.
When you have somebody who's posting an avatar of, say, Antinous, the god of man-boy love in Greek mythology, okay?
The god of pedophilia.
When you have that and a lot of other things that are terrible and a very suspect incident where a computer supposedly gets shot up and I've seen the footage of the person showing it.
Not there. You had all these other emails including the farm and Lozato email.
The entertainment in a hot tub for sure naming children by age and name.
You had all those things.
What did it become?
Hillary Clinton is trafficking children out of a pizza parlor.
Made up.
Hate to tell everybody, made up.
Now, they would take that one incident where it does appear a Clinton associate was smuggling children out of a certain country and And mix that in.
You see how that works? You mix it in.
Then all of a sudden, all these people that are dropping stuff, the bakers, come up with a hashtag frazzledrip or frazzledrip, whatever you want to call it, that I end up hearing in government hearings.
And these people are just giggling.
If you don't know what frazzledrip was, and by the way, When it was buzzing around the internet, it was hard for me to believe, obviously.
But that's at the point that I reached out to one of these unsavory characters.
You know, who continues to be pretty unsavory at this point.
You know, I thought he's done some good work.
That's why I came to him.
Did some good work on the pedo gate.
A lot of stuff I didn't agree with, but a lot of stuff that was in my face.
And I contacted this person and I said, what is the validity to this supposed frazzled rip video that's on the dark web?
Now we start getting into the nonsense.
The dark web.
Ooh, it's a dark web video.
Just like the...
How many times did you hear the dead man switch?
Dead man switch.
Sealed documents.
Sealed indictments.
Nonsense. So for those that don't know what Frazzled Rip was contended to be, supposedly an underground video of Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin brutally molesting a child and cutting off their face and wearing it.
Like Texas Chainsaw Massacre style.
And then some weird video that supposedly had stills came out.
Had nothing to do with it.
That got passed around.
And it builds up.
Because why? Number one, you have these guys with a motivation.
And supposedly Microchip claimed in court that he's not...
He wasn't really a Trump supporter.
I have no idea what that is.
Whether or not that's true.
But he hated Hillary Clinton so much.
That that's what motivated them to start doing it.
But then they all kind of...
And this is the thing with all of them.
Okay? That I've come across.
They love the fact that they can help paint a narrative.
Good or bad. They just...
They want to be in some type of control.
It's funny to them. Alright?
Like... It's like that social media influencer, ooh, look how many likes I got.
In fact, they're constantly talking about their numbers because that's really what it's about to push these narratives.
So it's reality rants and that's really just the beginning of this.
So I want to pull it back, all right?
I want to pull it back.
And talk about what their narrative is now.
Before I even play this clip.
And why I think they've pushed away from this narrative in the mainstream.
Now, this is by Jim Stewartson.
Stewartson and Unicorn Riot continually try to push a narrative that...
Basically, Michael Flynn is the mastermind of all of this.
And directing this...
I don't believe that.
I want to make that really clear.
I really, really do not believe that Flynn was involved at any point.
Except for the fact that eventually, when this did go viral, and there's a guy named, I believe it's Justin McConaughey, who some have named as Microchip.
Don't know if that's true or not.
Because the sketch, I don't know is true.
And let's say he did come in looking like that as an FBI informant who's undercover.
I mean, the makeup they have now and the masks they put on people, we've done it, right?
Right. There's no reason to believe that the person sitting up there would look like the actual person if they really wanted to hide that person's identity.
Right? I'm just pointing that out.
But I think that this is setting up the white supremacy Michael Flynn Q story.
And HBO kind of did that same thing.
They tried to connect Bannon and...
And Flynn to Q. Now, Bannon's certainly in that MAGA 3X crowd.
And obviously, Bannon had to be aware, just like Trump leaned into the QAnon sense at the end.
But all this is happening really early.
Remember, microchip gets flipped in 2018.
Now, if there's somebody out there that can point it out, I've never heard...
Brower and Microchip on a chat together or a live stream together.
If that exists, I'd love to have that out there because there are some that allege that Brower and Microchip are also the same person or that several people held that handle.
Okay, I want to make that clear too.
Confusing as hell, I know.
That's why we're trying to take it actually slow on this.
So, This is why all of this is important.
So what's really happening right now is the FBI is taking down the network that really did influence the election on social media in 2016 and helped Trump get elected.
They did. But it wasn't Russian.
All right? And I would say this.
Obviously, there are going to be open cases of identity fraud.
When you're creating bot farms and buying likes and buying retweets and you're under VPNs and you're probably setting up certain proxies around your actual identity and how you're paying for this stuff, they're going to find something.
But here's the new thing.
They're going to make it about politics wherever they can.
And look, bottom line is, even if Mackey did what they said he did with microchip, which is set up a number to return the text call, buy the text up, and make it look like you voted, 10 years for that?
And that's really election interference?
Say 5,000 people didn't go vote.
That's ridiculous. And then on the flip side, in 2020, they want to give you the Bernaysian talking about no evidence of widespread election fraud.
5,000 would be like, what are you talking about?
But they don't like that they were effective.
That's the next thing.
So the next thing is, how many of these people within that network flipped?
All the way back in 2018.
Because Microchip was still spitting his bullshit in 2018.
And Brower came on the show in 2019.
My show. And that's what we're going to play later.
But... The first thing we're going to do...
Because I want to show you...
Because actually, this is actually pretty good.
And then... I'm going to show you what Defango posted in February.
It's pretty similar.
So, this is Posobiec, back in the day, talking about how it was his friends that started QAnon.
Now, I had no idea who any of these people were when I first got back into this.
Remember, guys, I took a hiatus.
I was running a bar.
I was at an MSP company.
I was running a Little League video team.
I was flipping pizzas again.
A good run where I was certainly not paying attention to a lot of this.
It's very rare. It's worked 60 to 80 hour weeks.
And I go to Bilderberg in 2017 and actually Jack Posobiec, you can go watch it, tries to shout me down with a microphone and a megaphone.
And they're sitting there chanting, CNN is ISIS. There's like 25 people there.
You know, watch my film, Shade the Motion Picture.
In 2012, we had like a thousand people there.
Very disappointed. I'm like, what are you talking?
CNN is ISIS. Meantime, there was a bunch of Trump administration people in there, including Thiel.
And I think Liddell, who he just hired, McMasters was in there.
It was ridiculous.
Trump had just cut the deal, the arms deal, with Saudi Arabia that he said he wasn't going to do.
And he did. And got us, you know, as nuts deep as we could in the Yemen conflict that we have no business being in.
So, you know, I'm there for reality.
Okay? But period. Now, was there more money in my paycheck at that point?
Sure. And I wasn't there to trump Ash.
But I brought those, you can watch the debate I had with Jack.
So that's my, like, only physical interaction with Jack.
So then later on, When Jack does this piece on OAN about Brower and Microchip starting QAnon, and showing these logs, that again, Brower has disavowed.
And Brower has said he's not involved now.
Just saying that right now.
Now you wonder whether that's to keep spinning this narrative of the white supremacy thing, because one of the things they highlight in this, and this may or may not be true, I don't know who they interacted with because these groups are so big, but somebody from the Daily Stormer, some neo-Nazi site.
Terrible. Yuck, right?
Again, lies don't make friends, and personally, I love everybody, but I'm not looking to work with any literal Nazis.
My heart goes out to you.
I hope you find your way. I hope that you realize hating somebody based on their genetics is just ludicrous.
It's out of control ludicrous.
Period. So anyway, let's go back to this.
So again, they're trying to set up this white supremacy narrative.
And domestic terrorists.
Again, far-right trolls, right?
So, this is a microchip right here.
So... Brower, you can see Tony Podesta is one of the sealed indictments.
Obviously, there was no sealed indictments.
I hope you've enjoyed my 4chan posts.
4chan is where it started.
These are all Wayback Machines.
He has the Q thing.
He goes, I was right about Manafort, Bannon, DACA, Priebus.
Why would I lie about sessions?
Come on, people. I'm the Scoops Master.
He goes on a little further, and this is what we're going to play right now.
Brower has about 2,000 followers, and he gets on Alex Jones, and he's reading all these conspiracy sites.
And why do I say, Jason, aren't you a conspiracy theorist?
Aren't you a truther, Jason?
Look, man, I just want everybody to understand something.
I always just look for the truth.
I'm not a truther. I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
When I speculate, I let you know.
That is a brand I've been given.
That's a brand I've been given for daring to ask real questions.
And that's what we're doing here. Trying to bring everything in.
Because if the narrative is that a bunch of guys in this country not only started QAnon, but were the Russian bots, their Russian bullshit falls apart.
And then on top of that, they want to criminalize these guys.
So behind the scenes, how many people have flipped on the FBI and how much of the narrative are they controlling?
So once you're an informant, you do a lot of different things.
So if a Fed tells you, hey, we need to put out some posts that may be slightly racist just so they can catch other people in those posts or maybe saying derogatory things behind the scenes and then bring them into the loop, that's something you do.
That's something you do. Now, did that take place?
I have no clue, because I'm not on the inside, because I'm not getting visited by the FBI. Thank God!
Thank the good Lord Jesus Christmas.
Alright? But to illustrate where these people were out, and Brower in particular, who again, really looks like he's a founder of this, really involved in the beginning, is that pre-QAnon sense...
There's the idea of this Islamic connection to the Las Vegas shooting.
I saw no evidence of that.
Not real evidence, anyway.
I saw some speculation.
You want the real evidence on the Vegas shooting?
I think that I gave it to you.
As I went through hundreds of hours of footage and eyewitness accounts, and it looked like, again...
There were other events that took place outside of Paddock.
It looked like Paddock himself was an arms dealer.
It looked like the casino and maybe even rigged machines that had been used in the past in other cases could have been the money laundering that was necessary to have these deals set up.
It looked like he had at least another person slash possible prostitute with him right before the event.
His wife was out of another country.
I believe his brother got caught with CP afterwards.
He also talked about microchips and 9-11 being an inside job, according to the media.
And then when they go into the room, there's no smoke or any of the bullets burned into the thing, but there's him dead, and somehow he gets that window out, which is very bizarre.
Now, I'm not saying that Paddock didn't do anything.
At all. But to me, it looks like some kind of an arms deal gone sour.
Maybe more.
Because when you're dealing with arms deals, guess what?
You're dealing with the intelligence community.
And you're dealing with a vast array, again, of even probably more unsavory characters than the ones we're talking about today.
So, pre-Q and nonsense...
Brower gets on Jones and starts feeding one of these shitposting type stories and narrative stories as if he's an insider, right?
Because he's a low-level person within the Trump campaign, like, locally around himself.
At least that's what he claimed to me and what I've seen from some of the posting and the evidence, like, working with the campaign.
And obviously, in this network of other...
Shit posters and trolls and alternative media personalities and kind of this MAGA 3X movement.
So let's play this clip of Jones and Brower where he's feeding the seed of Johnny Nonsense.
B-R-O underscore 1776.
He has released a lot of great info in the past with his White House connections.
And I've got to tell you right now, I don't just have the hostage rescue team.
And we had Colonel Schaefer on earlier concurring with our analysis.
And he's got CIA connections and Army connections.
I have other connections.
And they say, yes, I took responsibility.
They've got him taking credit with this video.
That's Paddock. And they want to suppress it.
They're telling the president, well, it's financial security.
We don't want to trigger ISIS with codes or something.
Now, somebody on the inside did, I believe, leak one of the death photos of Paddock to Jones.
That was another big thing.
And I'm not here to come down on Alex Jones.
But one of the tools of manipulation that these guys were using were expounding upon Infowars narratives, hence the adrenochrome thing, right?
And, you know, the celebrities that were actually involved in child abuse.
And then it became a bunch of people that there was no evidence or basis for, period.
That's Stay Behind Network's Obama people, from our research, saying that so they don't get the blame for what they've done, so that Trump sits there while they blame gun owners, the Second Amendment, veterans, and patriots, which they've done.
But, James...
Brower joins us to go over this.
Paul's article is linked up on DrudgeReport.com.
Former Trump campaign official reports Las Vegas shooter made ISIS tape.
Now remember, within hours of this happening, ISIS took responsibility, and the FBI said, no, they didn't do it.
We don't know what happened, but they didn't do it.
That's the biggest tell you'll ever see right there.
But again, we have these sources, but I wanted to specifically get James Brower to go into this for us, and as much as he can tell us from his White House source, because my sources are in the military, they're in the FBI, they're in the CIA, and they say absolutely.
They say this guy was connected to other attacks.
Now you see it in the news today.
The bombings in New York.
So, James, tell us.
You've put out some big leaks before that have been accurate.
Tell us what your sources in the White House are specifically telling you.
Yes, thanks for having me on again, Alex.
I appreciate that. That's right.
You've been on before. Good to have you back.
Well, basically, the whole thing that's going on is, you know, like...
That was sort of why I think this was sort of leaked, because of how, like, the response was so quick to shoot it down.
And, you know, usually, like you said, it's always, you always know that usually means that it was ISIS. And the whole thing is that the tape, and I know that that's pretty much everybody wants the details on the tape.
And, you know, I'll share it. Everything that I know, obviously.
And basically the tape is definitely like a pledge.
Not like a pledge directly to ISIS, but it's more about the typical people must die for things to change.
It's that typical ISIS mentality that they want to kill us.
So it's pretty evident to me Obviously in retrospect, and I'd only seen a little bit about this.
I remember getting into the Paddock shooting, but I didn't see an ISIS connection.
Shocking. I know.
Jason, you didn't see it?
No, I didn't see an ISIS connection.
And look, this isn't to bash Jones at all.
This is just to show that this guy seeded that and tried to confirm that when none of it actually existed.
This was the level that these people were already playing on.
And Brouwer seems extremely connected, a.k.a.
Dreamcatcher and a bunch of other handles.
So, that goes on for like 10 more minutes.
And it's basically that, again, him just trying to reconfirm the narrative that's sort of been floating around on the internet.
How much of that was the style of the Q&A nonsense?
Almost all of it, right? Almost all of it, when you really think about it.
When you go back in time and you look at it.
And so many things didn't hit.
Remember, this started with the idea that Hillary Clinton was going to be jailed.
She's going to be arrested on October?
They gave a date! That's what's the nuttiest part about this.
Think about this. That's why the people that actually did start this and even grift on it afterwards, they just couldn't care less.
They're like, if people were dumb enough to keep believing after Hillary didn't get arrested and we're putting out riddles on the internet!
We're riddly-doo!
You're just a mark.
It's pro-wrestling to them.
And at the same time, for political operatives, it's gold because it's feeding into this narrative that their guy is the savior.
And again, Trump, better than most.
So what? It doesn't mean that 90% of what they came out with, especially fed into, wasn't complete garbage and didn't hurt people like myself Who were putting out real info about high-level pedophilia.
Who were really talking about Epstein.
And boy, after the Epstein arrest, the big play was, of course, Epstein was one of the sealed indictments.
It's happening!
It's happening!
Come on, guys.
So... You guys have listened for this long.
It's been long ranting and long raving.
I'm going to play the piece of Posobiec basically going over the genesis of the QAnon sense without Defango.
Now, Defango has this thread right here.
And he's got the clip we're about to see and watch on it.
He talks about MAGA 3X. He talks about Posobiec.
I want to say this. As this stuff came out, I talked to Posobiec behind the scenes under Twitter DMs under the WeAreChange handle.
And, you know, he's like, look, you can't trust Defango.
And I'm like, no, you can't trust Defango.
Like, it's Defango. Like, again, Defango, not a very happy person, in my opinion.
Like, like... All these people seem to have some kind of weird manic depression on top of everything.
So this is his big game.
And I think that's why Defango wants to put this out there because he so badly wants credit for it.
Maybe more than he deserves. I don't know.
I wasn't there. But it certainly seems like the idea of this being born out of DEF CON and a network of insiders, not Russian bots...
Not. Somebody who's here to save the world, okay, is the reality.
So he's got a full-on thread talking about the deplorable, talking about, you know, the Cernovich and Geese thing.
And here is Justin McConaughey.
Now, it's been alleged that McConaughey, this person, is microchip.
Right? Now I want to remind everybody, this is supposedly the picture of that person, but can we trust any kind of pictures?
Could we even trust a real picture if they didn't, Microchip didn't have to show his name?
I'm not saying it's Makani.
I have no idea.
His last post on Twitter is in 2021.
Right? He's got a minimal amount of followers.
But supposedly he was handling Trump's social media.
And this is an interaction of Defango and him.
All right? Now...
And the thing is, Brouwer was going...
Brouwer comes on with Defango.
And this is Brouwer in his little Russian hat.
That's the joke. There are no Russian bots, guys.
That's the ha-ha-ha funny-funny.
Um... Those are those DMs I was talking about before.
Let's go to some of these.
Here's another one of those posts.
And apparently, this is another one of those posts that...
You can see, like, I guess we're passed around by these people.
Defango, again, not trusting him, not to be trusted, but there seems to be a connection between Brower, Makani, Microchip.
Remember, Microchip's the one that testified without having to give up his identify and was charged with unknown things and flipped the FBI in 2018.
So the question is, did he start working with the FBI before Posobiec makes this piece and eliminates Defango?
And remember, you have Vice that did their documentary.
Now, the first part had some validity to it, but it's all this spin of white supremacy and hate and domestic terror.
And then the HBO documentary takes it another step further and brings the Watkinses into the scene, who I think are involved later.
But, at the same time, probably part of that MAGA 3X network to promote this stuff early on.
They just take control of it later.
Schoenberger, also very much in the mix behind the scenes.
Constantly tried to troll my channel.
I think was in the live chat of the interview with Brower and Defango that we're going to go over.
And remember, at this time when I'm starting this, I don't know what LARP means.
Live action roleplay?
I know what cosplay is.
I didn't understand that LARP meant just lie at all costs to laugh at people.
I have no idea.
It was just...
And I didn't realize how bad these shit posters were.
And how it was just all for attention.
It's weird, man.
It's a weird culture.
Sounds like a depressing one.
But again, Defango does bring the receipts.
On Brower. And Brower certainly, again, looks like...
The evidence is pretty overwhelming to me that it seems like Brower was involved in this network.
And, you know, Defango asked the question whether or not he recanted his story before or after a possible FBI visit.
I want to make... I want to be very careful.
So let's play it.
Let's play the Posobiec OAN clip where basically the genesis of QAnon is explained.
An online conspiracy group called QAnon is being debunked by one of the group's founders.
One America's Jack Posobiec spoke with one of the former top members of the group and has this exclusive.
For the past 10 months, an online movement has been picking up steam in America and has moved from online forums to Reddit, to Twitter, and to YouTube.
It led from the little screen to the big screen when people began showing up at political rallies wearing shirts and waving signs that carried the name of the movement, QAnon, or simply Q. What is QAnon?
Where did it come from?
What is its purpose?
And most importantly, who is Q? Well, Q first made its appearance on the web forum known as 4chan in October of 2017, referring to himself as the Q-clearance patriot.
Q messages, known as drops, follow a pattern of Socratic method questioning, cryptic messages, riddles, and coded drops of information.
The earliest Q drops referenced an upcoming arrest of Hillary Clinton to take place on October 30, 2017.
That didn't happen.
Instead, what happened on October 30 was quite the contrary.
It was the exact opposite of the poster's prediction.
Trump campaign officials and advisers, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, and George Papadopoulos were all indicted.
Manafort and Gates were placed under home arrest.
Q would go on to report many more predictions in these drops without any clear sign of them ever coming true.
Several months before this occurred, a Twitter user named Dreamcatcher reached out to this reporter and told me about an op that he was planning with notorious pro-Trump troll microchip that would plant bits of information on 4chan and act like it was coming from a high-level source inside the administration or the intelligence community.
So again, I'm not saying we should trust Posobiec because Posobiec also grew up in, I believe, naval intelligence.
Just pointing that out.
Now, I don't dislike Jack.
I want to say that too. I'm not here to attack him.
I'm just pointing it out that he also says that somehow he was privy before the op in that.
Now, is that true?
Or did Brower and Microchip come to him after the fact?
That's a question to ask.
That later became the QAnon operation.
I obtained chat logs from the two at that time in August of 2017, which back up their statements to us.
That signing FBI-Anon is good, too.
Looks spooky. But we should do our own thing, one of them wrote.
Let's use the Socratic method to question people, and they're going to flip on suggestions alone, said Microchip.
Just sign it micro, Dreamcatcher replied.
But the response was that they needed something more sinister, and Q was born.
Well, that's why I asked Microchip to record a video of himself opening up the Discord app on his iOS and scrolling through his screen to show us that the messages were not photoshopped or recreated in any way.
Here is that video.
I also interviewed Microchip to hear his take on the why and the how he created Q. With the QAnon stuff, this wasn't something that was So they're obsessed with what I would say some of the anarchist writers and socialist anarchist writers from Europe in the 1900s, I've noticed. So, I also want to point out that there's some people online That have said they've defibrillated the voice and they brought the pitch in and I've listened to it.
And again, if there's anybody out there that has some kind of a video that claims to be microchip and Brower at the same time, I'd love to hear it.
Because I think there is the possibility that at least the handle of Microchip, because there were so many anonymous bots associated, backup accounts, etc.
That's there. And one of the notorious tactics of so many of these people, more than likely Chavez and others included, is multiple SOC accounts.
So in other words, they say it's somebody else.
You know, that's really what bots are.
But it's really the same person.
Okay? I mean, there's a lot of ways to utilize bots and scripts, etc.
Let's get back to this.
And they talk about this Q and Luther Bissett.
And when we get into the watch-along with myself interviewing Defango and Brower, they're just so gleeful about all this.
Alright? And again...
I feel like they were trying to get me into this idea that was really an Israeli op.
And I think there's still people trying to push that narrative.
Right? Because that would be just another one of those narratives that you could feed into a large base of people.
And it's funny.
I was in the chat. There are some people that have actually been with me now for, you know, the past five, six years.
Thank you so much with that, by the way, guys.
And, you know, I haven't said this enough.
Especially today because there's just been so much to go over.
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But think of the irony.
There's a bunch of people out there.
I mean, there's actually two large groups of people that have been totally fooled by this.
There's the Trump derangement syndrome left that believes Russians hacked the elections.
And there was no hacking.
It was a bunch of these guys using rudimentary tools.
It was all hysteria. Then they come out.
They have this large investigation.
They know damn well that these are the guys that did it.
So they set up parallel investigations.
One which they'll prosecute and one which will be obfuscation, which is Russiagate.
And then they'll start prosecuting and flipping the people that actually did it and changing the language of these foreign adversaries or groups.
So now it's election interference if you're in your own country and doing these things.
Huge story. So, they prosecute those people, the people that are actually Hugh, and there's still a group of people that thinks that Hugh is going to take down the bad guys.
Wild times. Wild times.
Let's go back to the Posobiec piece.
Shouldn't even have broken it up that much.
By the way, you can listen for free on the flip side if you like.
That's over at the InfoWarrior Podbean channel.
One of those books that they came up with was Q by the Italian author, Guy Wright.
And in that book, he did the ominous messaging and he would sign his messages as Q.
We wanted to do something else.
We started talking about different ways that we could engage Trump supporters.
And then we came up with a list of different things like, you know, It sparks their attention.
You've got George Soros.
You've got Obama working with CIA and FBI to smear Trump in this Russia investigation once Trump was inaugurated.
There was a lot of talk about that.
You've got Trump surrounding himself with generals.
People thought he was going to start World War III and things like that.
Alex Jones, you know, spewed out a bunch of stuff about war and all kinds of crazy theories.
And so this was what was getting Trump supporters excited.
We put together a list of different questions that would spark people's attention to different items.
We filtered it out and randomly, one day, a dream catcher, on a post on 4chan,
there was a post where somebody said, Hillary Clinton will be arrested, like, shortly, right?
Something like that. It was complete stupidity because, I mean, she's not arrested.
And it was one of those things where somebody was trying to set up some type of a gaslight-type campaign right again.
And so, because we'd been talking about this stuff, Dream Catcher went to the next level.
And he took that whole snippet and he added that she'll be arrested at this specific time within the next few days or something, right?
And people responded to it.
The problem with the QAnon stuff, and I'm glad that our small group left.
And it's not that we were ever a part of making the full QAnon.
So even there, Microchip says we weren't a part of making the full QAnon.
They were the genesis. But again...
The genesis of this thing is not based in Russia at all.
Not even a little bit.
And these guys work to promote this stuff, among other stuff, after the fact.
And it does appear that Brower did do the first post, even though he denies it today.
I mean, think about...
What this person's saying and how they're saying it.
And they're talking about the Hillary Clinton stuff and they're kind of laughing and chuckling along.
That, to me, seems like they're being genuine.
Now, think about this.
The FBI absolutely wants to downplay this aspect because they still want their Russia-Russia-Russia narrative and they still want their white supremacy narrative.
Now, from what I've seen, I don't even know whether...
Who Microchip is?
If he's multiple people, I have no clue.
All right? None.
Again, seeing the stuff that's out there.
I'm asking the Burma's Brigade, if you've got actual evidence as to the existence of the identity of Microchip and why, I've got to post up top asking that question.
I think it's an important question, especially because he flipped for the FBI in 2018.
And the video I did with Defango and Brouwer is in 2019.
So by that time, I would imagine that some people got some visits from the Federales.
Just saying. Just pointing that out there.
It's turned dangerous, and I don't like that.
I mean, some of the stuff that's happening, it seems pretty dangerous.
These people are being gaslit by whoever is doing it now.
They didn't want it to go that far.
This was meant to be just like a small unifying factor, just like the petition, right?
Something quick, easy, done, out the door.
It wasn't meant to go as far as it has.
And I can't remember the stories of what the QAnon people are doing now.
One guy thought that he was being told by voices to kill the president.
We saw someone who tried to...
Listen, you're going to have crazy people in any group.
Okay? Period.
And... Like I said, these guys obviously weren't in control of it throughout.
It looks like they're the genesis.
I feel like it was probably backdoor, sold off, or stolen.
And... The involvement of the Cicada Group, this puzzle group that existed prior, is where we'll go once we go to the premium side and we go to this watch-along with myself, Defango, and Brower.
I'd encourage you to come on over.
Even if you've been with me that long and you saw it four years ago, with all this new stuff, it's really interesting to kind of look back on it.
Especially now that we know that the feds are involved, that they're taking down this network, that they're bringing charges of election interference into it, that they got this guy, apparently, microchip, to flip on Mackey.
And say that they did want to suppress the vote of a certain group playing into that government narrative.
More relevant than ever, in my opinion.
More relevant than ever.
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So... Look, I want this information out there.
I want more people to come to the realization of what the QAnon sense really was.
Why it matters now.
Why the Russian narrative was fake.
How they're actually going after influencers at this point and calling it election interference.
And that's dangerous.
Okay? Super dangerous.
And that the feds have flipped a bunch of people.
Let me repeat that. The feds have flipped a bunch of people.
That matters. That matters.
Alright, so one at a time we're going to leave.
By the way, YouTube, we didn't even get 100 likes.
Can we get like 100 likes on the way out of here?
Okay? Thanks.
Alright guys, we're going to leave them one at a time.
This is my cue to the producer to flip it over.
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