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The Truth About Red Balloons? | Reality Rants With Jason Bermas

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	And now, Reality Rant with Jason Burmess.
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	Good morning, everybody.
	Good morning. I am Jason Bermes.
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	So today...
	We're going to take a look at the quote-unquote Chinese spy balloon.
	And normally I double quotes it, but we'll go with the one hand in the beginning.
	Like many... I was extremely tempted to just go live as soon as the story hit because it was ultra bizarre.
	I thought to myself, maybe I'll just do an Ask Me Anything and get everybody's vibe on this and what they think this is, etc, etc.
	I decided to hold back.
	I wanted to see what the media circus would be surrounding this thing, what would eventually come of it, and in pretty short order, here's the narrative.
	Chinese spy balloon makes its way across Canada into the United States through some sort of an era.
	Error, sorry, not era.
	Then a Chinese official comes out, says that it's an environmental surveillance balloon that got off a track and that's why it's there.
	Okay. Then you have kind of this time period where it's up in the air, everybody's outraged, but what's really going on is they're waiting for the balloon to get to a certain area that they know that they can blow it out of the air and that they can recover it without an issue of either harming anybody or have anybody's eyes on any of it.
	I think that's the main thing.
	Have anybody's eyes on any of it.
	Okay? So...
	To start off, I want everybody just to take a look at the thumbnail really quickly.
	And by the way, thumbs it up, subscribe, and share if you're new.
	And clearly, on the bottom of this thing, it looks a lot...
	What's it look a lot like?
	A traditional satellite.
	Okay? Now why is that interesting?
	To me anyway.
	And why is that relevant?
	Well... You know, you have these headlines and you kind of go across the board.
	And I want to show people some other pictures here.
	Oh, surveillance balloon.
	Sorry about that. Oh, that was in the Hawaii.
	You look at these things, right?
	Here's an example of one.
	Another example of one.
	And this is basically the public stuff.
	There's another example of one.
	I mean, we could continue.
	This is really the only model I've seen that's somewhat different because you look at the white one here.
	It doesn't have quite the apparatus on the bottom.
	And they tell you that solar panels may very well be some other kind of a system on top of that.
	I don't know. I don't know.
	But anyway, that's old technology.
	So what if...
	Just what if, everybody...
	We're in a system where there is kind of this universal agreement with world powers That you're allowed to have these type of balloon satellites.
	It's not a surveillance system.
	It is actually a satellite up in the air.
	But now there's so many of them, right?
	Because most of us think that like traditional satellites, the traditional satellite system, you're putting something into orbit.
	And I'm going to show you Elon Musk or nuts and Jay Leno having an interesting conversation for a minute or so about space in general that I think is really important.
	Okay? But it's extremely hard to get into orbit.
	And these systems are really, really expensive.
	So what if instead of just like getting into orbit, you had a system where a lot of your satellites, not all of them, I'm not a space is fake guy, I'm not a flat Earth guy, okay?
	But I will tell you that obviously NASA and other space agencies have lied to the public for a very long time.
	That's like, I mean...
	Come on. Think about everything we've been lied to.
	And especially when we're talking about these type of information systems, surveillance, etc.
	There's so much that's classified.
	So you, in large part, have a system, globally, where, yeah, you have the satellites up there, but you have a lot of balloon satellites.
	And I'm also going to make the case That many of these balloon satellites, the reason that you don't see them, number one, this thing was probably supposed to be another 30,000 to 60,000 feet in the air, maybe higher.
	And what I think happened was, basically, when they're up in the air like that, they have certain propulsion systems that allow them to move around and navigate.
	Push them one way or another.
	Okay? So, that goes out.
	They lose control of the balloon, so it can no longer be remotely controlled.
	And then they lose the tracking on it because perhaps the computer system is out.
	They're not able to refuel it, and I'll get to refueling these balloons type systems.
	Again, let's take a look.
	Let's scroll right down and take a look at these balloon type systems.
	How you would refuel them with helium.
	There are plenty of ways, by the way.
	I mean, a big ship like that would be a great way to refuel them autonomously or with actual pilots, guys.
	You know, that would be a great drone thing.
	Basically, you have a suction thing that comes down on the top, you know, a sealed thing.
	It unseals, you poke it through, you re-helium it, etc.
	It's up there perpetually.
	A lot going on in what would be not low-Earth orbit, in my opinion, that we don't see, we don't know about, we don't talk about.
	Okay? So, you have this balloon, it gets out there, and now what do you do?
	Well, chances are, it probably, let's say it did crash, has Chinese logos and parts, because there's this transnational partnership now, via the military-industrial complex, that I'm going to get into with my great interview I did last night with Stuart J. Hooper.
	You really are going to want to watch this one, folks.
	Half of it's going to be on the free, half of it's going to be on the premium.
	But you do that, right?
	And then basically you get to keep this China bad narrative and America good.
	You get to keep this narrative that the U.S. is no longer number one, that it's a degrading nation state as globalization takes over.
	So, in a way, some of it's true.
	But there's a lot of narrative management going on.
	Now look, you can say to me, Jason, a lot of that is speculative.
	And it's very true.
	But from everything I've seen, and I'm going to show you, you know, let's just go through some of these stories first of all.
	That this isn't just, you know, an isolated incident.
	So... We have a spy balloon that crashed off the Hawaii coast four months ago, U.S. officials are saying.
	And then they're also copying to Florida and Texas over the last couple of years.
	And some of this may have been going on in the Trump administration as well.
	But I'm sure he was briefed in the sense that I'm talking about.
	And, oh, sir, it's part of an international network and, you know, we have these certain treaties.
	I mean, think about it. Did anybody really know about the Five Eyes?
	As much as I talk about surveillance and the Track Trace Database Society, I didn't know about that until we had documentation on it.
	And most people would have never believed it had it not come out and then it was still suppressed by the media.
	Okay? And you've got to understand, right now, I believe this is back in September, and you have still a U.S. Russian partnership in space.
	So clearly, clearly there are things going on behind the scenes.
	This one launched out of Kazakhstan, okay?
	Right there. So they're still cooperating up there.
	Alright, September.
	Now, you had astronauts last year, about a year and a half ago, calling for collaborations with China.
	Even this September, again, as that was happening with Russia, cooperation with China in space, and then China considering expanding its Tingyang space station.
	So, clearly, and you know what, that is something I didn't pull up, but Bushnell actually talks about the treaties in space via what can be done.
	So, The first clip that I want to play is I want to bring up El Musker Knutson.
	And first of all, what I like about this clip is it tells you how tough space is and kind of the realities of it.
	And then it gets to the point where he tells you how hard it is to get things into orbit.
	Yeah. It's tough.
	It's not easy.
	It's not like...
	It's a lot easier to perpetually have a balloon at 100,000 feet if you also have some kind of mechanized drone technology that can do the same and refuel it.
	Or even if you have to have manned flights to refuel these systems every once in a while.
	In my opinion.
	Then again, risking trying to put something in space all the time.
	I'm not saying it's not there.
	And then have it basically perpetually...
	In this orbital system.
	Throwing it out there.
	You can disagree if you like.
	It's okay. But here we are.
	Here's Musk and Jay Leno having a conversation.
	Walked away from it, and now it's back, and all these kids are here doing this because of you, and you're their inspirations.
	That's got to feel good. Yeah, I mean, I think we've got an incredible team, and we're making great progress here.
	We're trying to achieve the holy grail of rocketry, which is a fully and rapidly reusable rocket.
	No one has ever made a fully reusable orbital rocket.
	I'm not even close.
	See, that's another thing.
	People don't realize, like, when people are going into orbit also, they're like in a capsule.
	Even when you had the Bezos dick rocket, that capsules all that stays and then it comes back down.
	So many people are kind of ignorant of this because they don't know much about space travel in reality.
	They have been hooked into entertainment and everywhere we always see this idea of a rocket taking off like a plane.
	Well, so far, you know, nothing on that level has been publicly demonstrated.
	Let's make that here.
	And when you've seen some of these tests of these things trying to come down, and actually if you watch this whole piece, it's much more extensive, it's not an easy thing to do.
	Never one that could be rapidly re-flown like an aircraft.
	And that is actually the essential sort of invention, if you will, that is necessary to make humanity a multi-planet species.
	And it seems like common sense.
	I mean, you wouldn't get in a plane, fly it once, and then wreck it, and then build another plane.
	It would be insane. Like the way that rockets...
	You know, and this is such a PR train.
	Occupy Mars. No one's going to Mars.
	Stop it. Stop it.
	First of all, human beings physically are not equipped to go to Mars in any known sense if they're telling us half the truth.
	That's one. That's a good still shot of musk.
	And that's what this whole thing is about.
	But really what it's about is reusing rocketry All right?
	In this next level of, I would say, industrializing and militarizing space globally.
	Against the populace, unfortunately.
	It used to be, it would be like, if you board a plane, and then over your destination, you jump out with a parachute, and then the plane crashes.
	Right. And that's actually how all rockets work.
	Why do you think it was not done before?
	I mean, it's a very hard engineering problem.
	You need a lot of advancements on the engines, the airframe, the heat shield, and all of the technologies that go into the rocket in order to have it be reusable, but still get payload to orbit.
	Right. Getting to space is easy, but getting to orbit is 100 times harder than getting to space.
	So, there you go.
	That's the key part I want everybody to hear.
	100 times harder than getting into space.
	Alright, so there's a big failure rate anyway.
	We're putting up more satellites than ever, especially with this guy in Starlink.
	So how many of these are really balloon satellite systems that we've globally agreed to?
	Alright, that are part of a classified program.
	Now, I'm going to show you A couple clips of invisibility technologies.
	Why am I about to talk about invisibility technologies and cloaks?
	Because they exist and they've been around for a very long time.
	So I would also imagine that there's a good chance that when these things are up and running, I know you're seeing that white see-through material.
	That's also what modern day, what we know about invisibility cloaks actually look like.
	So now you have a balloon-type system where you can't see the balloons, and then they're up so high most of the time, maybe if there's a malfunction or a refueling or a refraction or something, that could account for some of the UFO activity up there.
	Just pointing that out.
	And the refueling systems.
	Does it start to make a lot of sense?
	I mean, are we supposed to believe our eyes?
	Like our actual senses and what we can see and what they're actually talking about or what we can't see.
	And this clip is from about a decade ago, CNN style, talking about this very thing of the reality of invisibility cloaks.
	Then we're going to talk about the adaptive tank invisibility cloak technology that's like four or five years old publicly.
	And then I'm going to show you a questionable video.
	Okay? I'm not signing off on that one being real.
	And every time that I do something like this, because it's very, very old, very, very grainy footage.
	In fact, it's much older than where I even pulled it from.
	It's probably like 15 years old.
	It's like beginning of Iraq old.
	So, here's the CNN clip from a decade ago talking about invisibility tech.
	And by the way, trusting the science, what I also find interesting about this clip is that There was a time when the US changed their military camouflage into this weird pattern that really the soldiers disliked.
	It almost was like...
	A step to degrade them as they went in with this thing because it really didn't protect them at all.
	And they actually admit that it didn't work and it kind of angered a lot of people.
	But people have to realize that time period was about bringing in the biometrics, the drones, the automation and robotization of war, the big dogs.
	And then further advancing that and getting rid of humans.
	So, you know, now looking at this, you know, 10, 20 years on, I think that is part of like this weird psychological warfare tactic against all of us, including the military.
	Like they literally put them a little bit more in harm's way for some kind of a weird like PR look that now, you know, again, When I was a kid, you didn't see commercials for the military in the movie theater.
	And now you were seeing full-blown movie theater style recruitment ads at the movie theater.
	It wasn't just on TV. It wasn't just be all you can be.
	Again, observations.
	So this is CNN a decade ago telling you openly about invisibility cloaks.
	Camouflage can be the difference between a soldier getting shot and going home.
	So a lot's riding on the next generation designed to outfit troops.
	It's only been eight years since the Army spent five billion dollars on camo that critics say didn't fool anyone.
	Soldiers complained to the point the Army abandoned its one-size-fits-all universal pattern.
	So they were looking for camouflage that they could use everywhere?
	Correct. And it didn't work anywhere.
	Guy Kramer is one of the designers competing to win the Army's next multi-million dollar contract.
	So again, that just also shows the corruption of military contracting.
	And again, I respect the fact that at least back in the day, CNN was like, yeah, it didn't help anybody.
	$50 million. This summer he showed us the science behind every shape, size and shade of these pixels.
	You now have your camouflage.
	We're trying to trick the brain into seeing things that aren't actually there.
	Digital patterns recreate shapes already found in nature.
	And 3D layering creates depth and shadows where none exist.
	That's today's design.
	But developers already have one eye on tomorrow.
	What's coming up down the road and very quickly is the Harry Potter cloak.
	What is it? With that fictional cloak, Harry isn't just camouflaged.
	He's invisible. It's Harry Potter!
	We better stop it there.
	Because, you know, we don't want the Harry Potter copyright strike.
	Well, I mean, we're getting... We're riding the edge here on YouTube.
	A little muskernuts here, a little Harry Potter there.
	I mean, my goodness. My pony's gone.
	How invisible are we talking here?
	If I walked into a room with a soldier wearing one of these cloaks?
	You wouldn't see him at all.
	He would be completely invisible to you.
	This isn't make-believe.
	The military has seen the so-called quantum stealth technology.
	It works by bending the light around an object, even concealing most of a person's shadow.
	Imagine what that could do for a sniper hiding in a field.
	Or the American pilots who ejected over Libya when their fighter jets crashed last year.
	They could actually pull out very similar to what they carry with a survival blanket, throw it over top of them, and unless you walked right into them, you wouldn't know that they were there.
	So what was once firmly in the world of make-believe could quickly become quite real.
	The science is in the special fabric, so you don't need a power source or some instruction manual to make it work.
	Theoretically, any soldier, even in the most remote location, could quickly put it on and get it working.
	Think about that now.
	Now, again, that's technology.
	Publicly, they're talking about a decade ago.
	I'm going to show you the actual stuff, the invisibility cloak tech that's put on tanks now.
	Now, when he talks about the fabric, think about what I just said about those balloons.
	So, in reality, even if you were to get high enough, and they're probably pretty high if there's a network of these things all over the place that are carrying satellites, but at the same time, they're using that cloaking technology on top of it.
	So, if you have a telescope, and plus, no matter how many there are, Earth's a big place, and as it expands, you get higher up, there's more area.
	To spot one of these things would be very difficult.
	Just pointing that out there.
	So, I'm going to show you the adaptive tech next.
	And coming up shortly, we're going to discuss this, Ukraine, the classified documents scandal, and so much more with Stuart J. Hooper, one of my favorites, to break down geopolitical issues.
	Really, what's actually going on geopolitically.
	So this kind of transnational network that I discuss that goes beyond the nation state.
	We had a great discussion. Here it is.
	Adaptive tech. Now you see it, now you don't.
	Well, almost.
	A new so-called invisibility cloak called Adaptive has been tested, which could one day help military vehicles blend into their surroundings and avoid heat-seeking missiles.
	So, how does it work?
	Well, this cloak is basically a sheet of hexagonal pixels that can change temperature very quickly.
	Onboard cameras can pick up the background scenery, then display that infrared image onto the cloak, allowing even a moving tank to match its surroundings.
	The makers BAE system say a vehicle can also pretend to be something else.
	For example, here on the left, you can see a tank with adaptive off.
	Then on the right, you can see it with the technology on and it's mimicking a car nearby.
	This, the company says, will reduce the chances of it being attacked.
	It apparently works both in the day and night and when the vehicle is moving.
	When we spoke to the company, they admitted it's not 100% invisible.
	The outline can be seen by the naked eye.
	But they told us the main advantage of the technology is that it confuses heat-seeking missiles.
	They said it could be in production in two years' time and could one day be used to cloak battleships at sea.
	Now, I would say that it was already in production.
	But not on a mass scale where you're seeing it every day.
	That's a four-year-old video.
	I'd say it's in production more now than ever.
	And again, this is what they show you.
	And you know the military has this nasty habit of classifying, overclassifying things.
	So the question is, what do they really have?
	Now this is an old, old video.
	Old video. Old video.
	Very grainy, very choppy.
	Looking from the far side.
	Coming in, guys. We're going to play it.
	Don't worry, they show it to you. And there.
	Now, this is the one I'm not signing off on.
	I don't know how real it is.
	But I remember this going around, and, you know, if you were somebody in the Middle East using that technology at that time, on any level, I would imagine you had a high rank in the classification.
	Especially not to get caught, because you wouldn't want the enemy showing that.
	So, look, that one's with a grain of salt.
	We're just, we're going to say it.
	That one right there, totally a grain of salt.
	Okay. With that being said, what I'm going to do now is I am going to bring up this interview.
	With Stuart J. Hooper.
	I need you to thumbs it up, subscribe, and share.
	Look, guys, this is a dude that is within academia right now who I highly respect.
	And the thing is that I love when people go the extra mile.
	He's a professor at Oklahoma.
	They give so much more...
	Gravitas and credibility to a lot of the things that I discuss because not only do they have that degree, but they're constantly sourcing things.
	Where even though, if you watch this broadcast, yeah, like I wanted to show you, we're bringing the receipts on everything.
	We've got to bring the receipts on everything, period.
	That's how he does it.
	But there's so many other people out there in this arena of commentary that either aren't Showing you the receipts or are editorializing to a manner in which it's suspect.
	And some of them just kind of take the narrative of everybody else.
	Like, either it's laziness.
	Sometimes it's griftiness.
	Sometimes it's purposeful disinfo.
	That's not what we do here.
	I try very hard to come prepared.
	Like, I get up early.
	I know what I'm looking for.
	I already have some of the stuff brought up there.
	Obviously, I did this interview last night.
	But... When I'm off the cuff, I let you know.
	That's when we do the AMAs and things just happened and what do you think?
	But when I've really thought things through, I want to bring a perspective where people can go, huh, is that what's going on?
	Now, I'm going to say it again.
	I don't 100% know what's going on with this balloon.
	But it is something that I thought was worth discussing with my boy.
	So without further ado, let's get to this great interview that I did with Stuart J. Hooper.
	We were gonna go over Ukraine, the World Economic Forum, even the Biden classified documents,
	and we're still gonna do that.
	But I kind of took a break over the weekend, as I often do now that I do the morning show.
	And I haven't weighed in on the quote-unquote Chinese spy balloon.
	And I can't wait to get my next guest's take on this.
	He's one of my favorite political analysts out there.
	He is Stuart J. Hooper.
	And he is working on a PhD, but I think that some of his academia work already is amongst the best.
	He gives some of the best breakdowns here.
	So... Before we get into the balloon at all, let my audience know who you are, where they can find your work, and what you've been talking about recently.
	Because we've talked about the doomsday clock here on this show.
	We've talked about the threats of quote-unquote tactical nuclear strikes.
	We've seen the rhetoric escalate time and time again via Putin as
	Biden escalates this military expansionism really into Ukraine at least publicly and
	And really the reason I say publicly is because you know sending 48 tanks over there isn't gonna make the difference
	in the war But they're easing you into this idea that 48 could be 480
	or 4,000 soon So buckle up and get ready. So uh
	Stewart take it away Tell people where they can find you and, again, what you're working on briefly.
	And then I want to do go full-blown Chinese spy balloon.
	Well, thank you very much for the introduction, Jason.
	Extremely kind. Always great to be on with you too.
	I am an academic, as Jason said, taking a more critical approach to the study of politics, to put it lightly.
	But it can be done within academia, in the right places, with the right people.
	I have a YouTube channel where I put out short, around really 10 to 20 minute videos a couple of times a week, breaking down the most important geopolitical stories of the day.
	That channel is slowly growing.
	I took a bit of a break towards the end of last year because I was busy, which didn't help, but would appreciate as many new subscribers as possible over there.
	maybe we can start to get some of the view counts ticking up slowly but surely.
	Covering quite a lot of the same things that Jason covers here.
	Other than that, you can also find me on Twitter and I have a little Facebook page as well, reposting some of
	this stuff.
	But yeah, as you said, we haven't spoken in a while and there's been a lot going on in that gap.
	And specifically, a lot going on with all of the potential for a global conflict.
	And there are lots of pieces of the global puzzle that are all seemingly moving in this direction.
	In this direction at precisely the same time when Western democratic governments have really never really been seen this weak Which I think is an interesting side note to bring up, is that at exactly the same time as we're moving towards World War III, or the external enemy, the external threat, is precisely the same time when if we look internally into Western democracies, Things seem to be crumbling down,
	slowly but surely.
	On an economic level, on a political level, really on a social-cultural level as well.
	Things are falling apart at the seams within our countries.
	And what do we now have?
	Well, we have a convenient excuse for, in fact, two excuses, Russia and China now.
	To go ahead and just, well, let's forget about the domestic problems.
	Let's forget about the fact that eggs now are almost going to be costing a day's wages or whatever ridiculous inflation rate that eggs are now at.
	That you can't afford to fill up your gas tank.
	That you haven't had a pay raise in God knows how long.
	Let's just forget about that.
	Put all that aside and let's think about Russia and China.
	Again, it's part of the problem, but it's not the whole problem.
	But yeah, that's my brief overview of where we currently are.
	Well, I have to agree with you, and that's why I want to raise my skepticism about this idea of a quote-unquote Chinese spy balloon and what I think this really was.
	So, number one, I know that you know this because you've looked into NASA and these joint space programs, especially with the ISS, and then kind of this international law Amongst the satellite systems that engulf the planet.
	Well, in my opinion, what you're seeing here is more than likely a faulty balloon satellite.
	And they've already talked about how there were several during the Trump administration off the coast of Hawaii.
	And this is just the first one that we visually saw.
	And basically what I think you're seeing here is just a malfunction of a joint communications program, By what we would call the military-industrial complex, big tech, etc.
	The surveillance states out there, the extension of five eyes and all this stuff.
	And this balloon that was probably, I don't know, maybe 30,000, 60,000 more feet in the air, I'm not sure what the altitude is speculating that it was, was once that high, and it wasn't malfunctioning, and you couldn't see it.
	And China took credit for it because it is part of that joint program.
	And of course, they're not calling it a spy balloon.
	They're saying that it was there for eco-surveillance.
	But you have to kind of guard the idea that you already have this alliance via these different
	Entities globally via the space program and what's really going on there because we don't really know for instance
	You know, I covered the fact that a few months ago you had a launch from Kazakhstan
	with American Chinese and Russian astronauts up to the ISS So clearly even in times of conflict and war there's some
	deal that's out there And the other thing that I would speculate on is there's a
	lot more of these things up there than we imagine And basically, you probably don't see the balloons most of the time because they are made of a special material that makes them almost invisible, if not invisible.
	We've already seen that technology utilized by the military.
	They're bragging about it and putting it on tanks now.
	You know, like they're openly talking about it.
	And the reality is, I think that we have a larger system up there That are, you know, not satellites that are quote-unquote in low Earth orbit.
	But globally, in this balloon system that is largely automated from the ground, so it is, and they have little propulsion systems and can move around that way, and at the same time, they have a refueling system, either by some kind of a manned aircraft that you would just go up to the top of the balloon, and you watch how they do it in the military with, for instance, a Airplanes.
	Where it sucks into the top and it just refuels the helium.
	And then whatever propulsion system they're using, a similar refueling tool.
	So they can be up there perpetually.
	But every once in a while they fail.
	And with the advent of more and more and more and more people having the magic devices, you're getting...
	And you have more and more and more of them up in the air...
	Right? Because these things are expanding all the time.
	There's going to be issues.
	And all of a sudden, this one got out of their control because we're human beings and we make mistakes.
	It was faulty for whatever reason.
	Who knows? And all of a sudden, now you need a cover story.
	And you've got to get it out of the public realm when you shoot it down.
	And what better way to show that weakness, that perpetual weakness of the United States you just talked about, how we're not number one anymore.
	And that's the global projection.
	And also endorse this idea of red China versus USA. Good old America.
	And make this perfect storm for a global conflict.
	I know that sounds dark, everybody, but that's my read.
	And Stuart J. Hooper, take it away.
	Yeah, that's definitely an interesting perspective in terms of what goes on.
	In the military-industrial complex, the black programs that exist, that we know exist, that millions of dollars are funneled into, billions, trillions probably over the course of just our lifetimes.
	These things do exist and there's a whole lot going on behind the scenes that really the average everyday voter has absolutely no idea about.
	And not only do you have absolutely no idea about any of this, But you have absolutely no influence over any of this either.
	If you think your vote is going to change the existence of this world of secret black projects, and as you focus on here extensively, Jason, black space projects, if you think your vote's going to change any of this, you're living in fantasy land.
	The idea that...
	The US military is some democratic force.
	It's just completely disconnected from reality.
	I actually had my first academic journal article published at the end of last year, end of October, and it was looking at Julian Assange.
	And the central argument of that whole article was...
	The only reason that Julian Assange is being so publicly persecuted is because what all of those revelations did was break this democratic facade.
	The idea that this is all for democracy and spreading peace in a more stable world.
	Well, what we saw from the revelations of WikiLeaks was that what WikiLeaks is doing, what the American government is doing, is far from spreading peace, love and democracy and stability.
	In actual fact, it's doing the complete opposite.
	And all I focused on in that article was the collateral murder video, which I'm sure you've all probably seen or heard of.
	If you haven't, just go and check that one out.
	It's still on YouTube. You can find it.
	And let's talk about it quick, you know, because we have to.
	Because clearly, you know, it just showed the brutality of war and the fact you had these people just walking down the street who were journalists, who weren't doing anything, who were perceived as enemies, and were gunned down in the streets.
	And again, this is a time...
	When Americans were still wishy-washy on things like Guantanamo Bay and black torture sites out in the open, which we all of a sudden aren't.
	And even in the supposed patriot movement that believes in QAnon sense nightmares that, no, we'll put them in Gitmo.
	No, we need to get rid of Gitmo.
	There's no reason to have these places.
	So that was the real threat that people were seeing in real time our military, again, gunned down.
	What people realized then was the fourth estate and was supposed to be set up so that you understood what was actually going on in the global conflict.
	I'm sorry I interrupted you, but it can't be emphasized enough because WikiLeaks and Assange is such a relevant issue.
	And the more and more we get away from it, the more and more I feel people need to absolutely come to it because WikiLeaks was the way.
	And I don't want to go off on a tangent here, but even if you look at what's going on with the Twitter files, where's the WikiLeaks dump?
	Continue. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
	And we could do a whole other show on just that WikiLeaks stuff some other time if you want.
	But otherwise, if you guys want to check out the article, you should be able to view it for free via a link at the top of my Twitter, which I think is still pinned there.
	So you should be able to go and check it out.
	But otherwise, in terms of the rest of the...
	Stuff that is going on with the secret programs, the military industrial complex, all this sort of stuff.
	Something that I'm focusing on with all of my research is trying to construct an idea of a transnational military industrial complex.
	In other words, the military industrial complex still exists, but it now really exists offshore.
	The center of its power is above and beyond the state.
	Well, if that's true, that then returns us to the point of it is also above and beyond your vote.
	You are not gonna have the same degree of influence over this that you may have had back in the 60s and 70s or the 80s.
	And The research that I'm doing is looking at two specific entities, the Defense Innovation Board and the Defense Innovation Unit.
	And these are two institutions that were created by the Obama administration.
	administration. They still exist to this day. So they have survived the tumultuous nature
	of domestic American politics, which immediately says something about them, that they are important
	and they are above and beyond the average left-right paradigm, which of course you've
	stood against for years. I've never believed in that. I even actually once stood as an
	independent candidate for parliament back in England because I was so really disaffected
	with the British left-right paradigm, where it really is still the same thing playing
	But there's these two entities, the Defense Innovation Board, the Defense Innovation Unit, they are really staffed by transnational elites.
	So the Defense Innovation Board, for example, was chaired by Eric Schmidt.
	I know he's one of your personal favorite transnational tech elites.
	And the Defense Innovation Unit is charged with going around...
	I have a copy of that somewhere around here too.
	Yeah, here we go. Right here.
	Huh? Huh? I mean, boom!
	Look at that! Because this is the real deal.
	This is literally their blueprint.
	They talk about WikiLeaks extensively in this and its effect on society.
	And basically, if you want the playbook that they were laying out for this misinformation and disinformation and silencing campaign, they bragged about it right here.
	Right here. And continue, my friend.
	Continue. Yeah, again, it's another great side note, though, that all of this stuff is publicly available.
	I'm not doing anything that's involving secret files or classified documents or anything like this.
	Everything that I'm looking at is publicly available, so it's there for those who are willing to go and find it.
	And then interpret it through a lens which can make sense of it, which is...
	What I'm hopefully successfully trying to do with the PhD, and hopefully in a year or so's time, I'll have a nice book for everybody else to go and read.
	But this Defense Innovation Unit is pretty interesting.
	So this was charged with going around Silicon Valley.
	I'm seeing what was going on in Silicon Valley.
	What are the tech companies making?
	What's really on their agenda?
	And they weren't even looking for anything that was being created with a military purpose.
	In fact, they were looking for things that were just new innovations, new great tech innovations that the military may be able to use.
	So things that they could repurpose for military means.
	And this One particular thing I was looking at last night is called a Perdix drone.
	P-E-R-D-I-X. This was developed by a group of engineers at MIT. I think some students actually were really the people behind this.
	And it was a swarming drone.
	So they release hundreds of these things and they can all work together to accomplish a specific task.
	Now the DIU, the Defense Innovation Unit, got wind of this and they bring it into the Pentagon structure and they are able to ultimately put it into a system which can be ejected out of the flare dispensers of an F-22.
	So they're very good at finding these particular systems, repurposing them and then making a military And not only that, but at the same time, you know, the access to a lot of these things to be highly militarized is when commercial products utilize some of the technology.
	So, for instance, a lot of the drone slash rocket technology is now at a much cheaper price because they're using cell phone chips, these small chips that are being manufactured in mass by Samsung.
	And people have to understand that's why Samsung now also has a place in the background at the military-industrial complex.
	It's not just because they're selling phones.
	You know, I talk about that Transformers conference, which, again, big conference, Washington Post, Lockheed Martin, Samsung, NASA, Rocketdyne, Martine Rothblatt, and then you have misinformation panels with Twitch and Reddit.
	I mean, that's why we talk about these things in unison, because all of these things exist outside of the United States at this point, in one form or another.
	Yes, NASA does as well, with all of its public-private partnerships.
	That's my point. I can't wait.
	Until you get those three letters, that PhD, and people can start seeing, you know, really how obvious in their own writings this has already happened.
	Even Whitney Webb's new piece, you know, One Nation Under Blackmail, highlights kind of this transnational military-industrial complex corruption behind the scenes via the intelligence agencies that essentially run these, you know, the Lockheed Martins, et cetera, of the world.
	Yeah, and you can look at an institution like the Atlantic Council, and they proudly display on their website all of their corporate sponsors.
	And it's all of the big name players in the tech industry and the military industrial complex, all coming together to help guide NATO's policy forward.
	What could possibly go wrong there?
	But coming back to these satellites and everything that's gone on with China and these sorts of problems, This, the central threat here is that regardless of what this is or was, the public framing that we have is that it is from China.
	We now have a domestic political firestorm all around this.
	Republicans chomping at the bit.
	Biden didn't do enough.
	Biden's weak. And, well, as you said, maybe this has been going on for a very, very long time and this isn't even really what we think it is, but...
	The problem is, this is going to be used to, as I mentioned at the start, push the domestic debate, push our political capital, if you will, into what could be a very dead end.
	And the very dead end, of course, would be if war breaks out between China and the United States.
	There are American generals that are coming out and claiming that this is also potentially going to be happening within the next couple of years.
	I don't know if you saw that story from last week, but that was a current American general who said that.
	There was another retired colonel who I caught an interview with.
	I think it was published on Breitbart.
	And he was saying that if you keep funneling these weapons into Ukraine, It's going to become very clear to Russia that they are not capable of winning a conventional war against NATO. Well, if they can't win a conventional war, Russia has another option.
	They could fight a nuclear war.
	So that's the problem there.
	And I'm also trying to work on An article right now, a bit more informal, that looks precisely at this war in Ukraine and tries to explain why people are standing against the funneling of weapons into Ukraine.
	And I'm arguing that it's not because These people are appeasers, not because they want Russia to win, not because they're particularly good fans of Putin even, but because we have just lived through two decades of a war on terror where we've seen military force used and abused.
	We've seen $2.3 trillion in Afghanistan alone literally flush down the toilet for what?
	Nothing! So people are not appeasers of Putin.
	People are becoming skeptical of the use of military force.
	So if you want to have a reason why people are not just all jumping on the bandwagon of support Ukraine, support Ukraine, the Western world needs to take a look in the mirror and ask, well, what did we just do for the past 20 years?
	We just fought two wars of aggression.
	We completely wasted everybody's time and money and lots and lots and lots of lives, completely destabilized an entire region of the planet.
	And now we're asking people to support another war.
	Well, here we are.
	It sounds wild, but...
	Let's talk about the Doomsday Clock.
	Because the concept of the Doomsday Clock...
	First of all, it's just such a bizarre concept.
	Especially when they pose, and they move the Doomsday Clock, and they make a big announcement, and there's like four people surrounding, like smiling, as we supposedly move closer to our thermonuclear doom as a species.
	I mean, it's the wildest thing.
	We're now at 90 seconds to midnight.
	And this was kind of satirized via the Watchmen comic book series and then the film.
	I love the director's cut of that film, by the way.
	I think that the Watchmen is really just a fantastic movie.
	But it is this idea of nuclear Armageddon, and it's been brought back, right?
	Because the Watchmen was actually something that was taking place during this 1980s, what I would call hysteria, via a Cold War.
	Obviously, that's been reignited.
	However, it's been reignited in a way where, yeah, you had the conflict in Afghanistan back in the day, right, where the United States was teaming up with the Mujahideen, their buddy bin Laden and crew, the ISI. But it was more of a representative, even playing field.
	You knew the U.S. was on the ground.
	You knew the weapons were being trained there.
	Again, a conventional war there seemed winnable, like you talked about.
	It no longer would seem winnable if basically you had just corporate sponsorship, as many munitions as you could funnel over there via this NATO alliance.
	So now we come to the rhetoric of Putin.
	And Dmitry and others, you know, that have gotten up there and started to say, hey, keep poking the bear and you're going to give us no choice.
	You've already backed us into a corner where we felt like we had to go into the Ukraine in the first place, that you were going to take these other places.
	You were actually going to advance, okay?
	And we did that.
	So, F around and find out.
	And now we move this closer to midnight.
	So, if you want to talk about the origins, perhaps, of the Doomsday Clock and where that comes from and then kind of bring us forward, that would be great.
	Yeah, I'm with you.
	It's a very interesting concept and of course has its roots in the Cold War and how scientists were ultimately trying to make the point that it's not necessarily always a great idea to push forward with every single technology that we have just because we can.
	And we see this today, again, playing out with artificial intelligence.
	A.I. Chat, GPT, this sort of thing.
	Just because we can do something and make something doesn't necessarily mean that it's a great idea.
	But this Doomsday Chloe is supposed to be a representation of these scientists' views of how close we are to engagement in a nuclear conflict in World War III, which is what a nuclear conflict would of course suggest.
	I had exactly the same thought that you did when I watched that announcement and there are just these four people standing in front and then they reveal the clock and they take the cloak off and they're all standing there and they don't know whether to really smile or not smile.
	It's just a really kind of strange situation.
	I think, though, I wouldn't necessarily throw this thing out entirely.
	It's good to have somewhat of an institutional force saying maybe we should put the brakes on this.
	Maybe we should consider where this is going and what the ultimate aim here is.
	And that's been my central critique of the war in Ukraine for the last couple of weeks.
	What is the objective?
	What does it mean to be victorious here?
	Because if it means the complete reclamation of Ukrainian territory, there are now lots of American generals also coming out and saying, yeah, that might not be possible for a very long time, if ever.
	And these are also not retired military elites either.
	These are people that are still in the American military structure.
	Well, if you want to retake Crimea, for example, that's going to take such a concerted effort, so much blood, so much technology, so many bullets, so many munitions, that they are essentially asking the question, is it worth it?
	Is it worth this price?
	And this is also a question that's come up with some of these cities in Ukraine that have been under Intense focus for last month or so.
	Back moot, for example.
	I heard a few military analysts the other week arguing that this city has no strategic relevance whatsoever.
	But they're fighting for it tooth and nail every single day, throwing more and more bodies into this, and they just keep piling up on both sides.
	So what are we trying to achieve here?
	What is the ultimate goal?
	Should Russia have invaded Ukraine?
	Absolutely not. And if you're against George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq, you should absolutely be against Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
	We have to move away from militarism as the potential solution of any of our political problems.
	Blowing each other up is not going to move us forward as a species.
	So I would like to see a legitimate objective and of course The Ukrainians want their territory back and they should never have been invaded.
	We can agree with that while also saying we have to be realistic.
	And what is a realistic goal at this point?
	Is this going to be the next forever war?
	Or are we going to try to bring an end to this sooner rather than later?
	Because if we can have an international coalition that can throw weapons into this, I'm pretty sure then we should be capable of having an international coalition to bring about peace.
	Where is that international coalition?
	I don't see it. I don't see it either.
	So let's just stop it there.
	Let's just stop it there.
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