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And without further ado, let's continue that interview with Steve Poikin.
Okay.
And hey, the Saudis are going to have to pay their due and then cuts a deal right before Bilderberg 2017 for $400 plus billion dollars via the arms trade and then goes along with the Yemen situation.
And then that can even bring us forward to the OPCW reports regarding Syria because we're in that same timeframe where that transition is happening and Trump goes on television in mainline speeches twice, says it's time to get out of Syria.
And then lo and behold, we have the quote-unquote evil Assad who gasses his own people, gassing his own people in Duma.
Speak to that a little bit and then we'll get into the OPCW leaks and how the Trump administration, if you were watching the hearings that nobody covered in the mainstream media, guess what?
His administration blamed that on Russia, Russia, Russia propaganda, Steve.
Yes, they did.
Yes, they did.
So we're, um, we had almost, we had almost collectively as a country got war in Syria fatigue.
We were coming into Trump's inauguration.
Uh, at least a lot of the anti-war community, the people who do anti-war.com, Scott Horton, Kyle Angelone, and all those guys, Dave de Camp, Libertarian Institute, they, you know, they were, they were like, did you know that we actually ran out of bombs and that Obama had to order more just so we could destroy people in Syria?
And like, this is, you know, there was a legitimate war in the Middle East fatigue.
And Trump gets in and he started talking since about we're throwing away billions of dollars in blood and treasure.
We're not getting anything out of this.
There's no, there's no benefit to the country for us being in these wars.
Let's pull the heck out of them.
And then all of the sudden there's a gas attack.
There's joint chiefs telling him that there's a deal being struck between Assad and Putin and that they're going to make a play for the rest of whatever the different territories and it might be.
They might have eyes on Turkey and all this kind of stuff.
So they convinced Trump to drop a Moab, a mother of all bombs.
Do you remember that?
Yes, I did.
And this was right after he bragged about selling more weapons to Saudi Arabia than any president had ever sold to Saudi Arabia because he does the best deals.
And then he dropped the mother of all bombs on Syria.
And that just sort of reopened the floodgates for all of the exact same 2012, 2013 era talking points about the Mideast in general.
Right after that, right after that, Israel lit up Syria and then they lit up the Gaza Strip because as soon as Trump started dropping more bombs, it seemed like kind of a signal to, you know, our stalwart allies in Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East.
So such a democracy, Netanyahu's getting back in power somehow after losing election.
Just big time democracy.
Mainstream Media Myths00:14:44
Just we'll talk about that.
Pasta has a great theory about that.
Pasta thinks that Bibby was read in a little bit on what was coming down the line from about March of 2015 or 2020 to present.
And he thinks that Bibby got out, like extricated himself from the situation, wrote it out on the sidelines.
Israel had a revolving door of prime ministers in the last couple of years.
And now he's walked right back into power.
Nobody's going to be blaming him or looking at him for anything that happened in Israel in the last couple of years because he was off the table.
And he can now come back in and run whatever ultra right-wing government that he wants to.
Well, have you seen that clip of him bragging about the genetic database, how they have 98% of their citizens via a medical database?
And again, bragging that they basically partnered with Pfizer to be first.
And now he wants to get the same type of database via DNA and genetics for the entire populace.
And even starts talking about a fourth industrial revolution style business model and industry at the end of that clip, which obviously would integrate into this idea of not the internet of things, but the internet of bodies, which is essential in this fourth industrial revolution, Steve.
So gross.
He just casually says, maybe we paid them in terms of like giving up their genetic material.
And he says, we'll take the genetic database, we'll lay it over the top of the medical database, and we will have the most comprehensive profile of living beings on the planet.
I mean, he literally slaps down as he says it that'll be on top of that.
He's extremely excited about it.
And I'll say this, to his credit, as he's talking, a lot of the studies initially on everything, we don't want to get too much into this because the first half of this is on YouTube, but those studies did show a lot of base data that then people in the West would point to that would counteract the great narrative that was upon us.
But it seems like again and again and again, these political leaders, these techno-bureaucrats point to those studies, but not the data that the studies show and instead the culmination of what the mainstream wants to say about those studies.
So often there's a lot of really great raw material in that information.
But then when it gets summarized and then distributed to the media, it's all positive Bernesian spin doctoring.
It's so weird to watch.
And this is something maybe we could relate this to what's happening too with the Twitter files.
Because when all you get from the mainstream press or even the independent press is a couple of snapshots or a summary of what's going on, the assumption is people smarter than you have already looked at this, so you don't have to and you don't have to worry about it.
And everything that is in print right here is the truth as far as we can disseminate it.
And that's not how.
Journalism works.
That's not how investigations work.
That's not how any of this works.
So we're being led the whole last, I think, at least the last three years, if not from 2016, 2015, when the whole Trump and Bernie and Hillary Clinton thing started and everybody's brains got broken in earnest over that.
Like by the time everybody started catching the sniffles, their brains were already pretty well saturated with the Trump derangement syndrome or the, you know, every all every other psyop under the sun.
So that when we get here to this point, you've so broken down the populace.
We're almost at 90% of the population that doesn't read past the headline now.
If they read the headline at all, Steve.
If they read the headline at all.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
So when you've got a population that is that captured, do you know what I mean?
Like people refusing to read a headline, let alone past it.
That's a captured population.
That's a population that's going to do more or less whatever you direct them to do.
So we've got multiple niche bubbles that people live in now that they can be pushed and activated to go do something, to go hate their neighbor, or to go glue their hand to a knockoff painting.
Or yeah, yeah, you know, you can push people to do just about whatever you want because nobody's reading past the headline.
Nobody's actually looking into the information that's being given.
And a summary can be just about anything you want it to be if you know that nobody's checking up on you.
There's no accountability.
Therefore, people can run rampant all over the truth.
And, you know, one of the things that I've reiterated again and again and again regarding these quote unquote Twitter files is the fact that the names that you're hearing that were de-boosted or censored are largely well-funded mainstream figures.
I don't need to know that Dan Bongino got de-boosted.
He's got a show on Fox.
You know, Charlie Kirk, hey, man, you're doing really great work with transhumanism.
You're reaching a conservative populace.
I do like that about you, but you are also funded to the tune of millions of dollars via this turning point USA quote unquote America first movement, my friend.
So for me, number one, the censorship obviously didn't start in the Trump era.
It started when Twitter became a publicly traded company bare minimum or on that road.
So why aren't we talking about what happened a decade ago?
And why are we so blasé that it is open knowledge right now?
And it's even on mainstream media, Steve, that Twitter fully employs in high-level positions, former FBI, CIA, and NSA employees.
To Tucker Carlson's credit, he's the only one and only one in the mainstream media that has reported this via the musker nuts.
He invited Elon on to talk about it.
He invited Twitter to comment on it.
They have made no comments.
There have been no follow-ups.
And it's biz NAS as usual.
Let's talk about that because sure we can, that's just scratching the surface of all these social media companies or big tech companies in general.
Same thing's going on on Facebook.
Google is probably the most embedded of Trojan horse civilian systems with a multitude of government contracts in the classified arena with a multitude of agencies, including NASA.
But when we talk about Twitter, we know the deboosting and the shadow banning has been going on for a very, very long time, Steve.
And nobody in the quote-unquote right and very few in the alternative are acknowledging this.
Well, it's wild to watch, Jay, because we had really good reporting from a guy out of Mint Press named Alan McCloud for the last couple of years where he was showing the receipts on this and where he was talking extensively about who worked for Twitter and who worked for Facebook and who worked for a couple other social media platforms.
And it didn't get a lot of traction.
I think Mint Press is one of those outlets that our friends that are in more conservative media kind of stay away from for whatever reason.
Maybe they appear lefty or what.
I think they do a lot more foreign policy than they do domestic policy.
And that does kind of rub some of our friends on the right the wrong way because war hockey.
But Alan the Cloud's reporting was fucking phenomenal.
And he really laid out who was embedded from not just the FBI, but as you were saying, the NSA inside Twitter.
Now, about a year later, because when you buy a company, you could be financially and legally liable for previous shenanigans.
So if you, Jason, if you bought Twitter and all of the sudden people were like, look, Twitter was being ran as an intelligence operation.
People were, this was happening to people, that was happening to people, you could be sued.
You could lose your company.
You could lose everything, unless somehow you were able to get what appeared to be full disclosure of the previous management's shenanigans out in the public sphere, thereby absolving you of any fiduciary responsibility that you might face in light of what's going on with your new company.
So that in and of itself is something that I think people need to take into mind when they're looking at the Twitter thing.
But really, what is this?
Because it's not journalism, Jason.
If I called you up and was like, Jay, I got a breaking story.
I've got 100% verified information that the FBI and the Biden administration were influencing a private company in order to direct the narrative and keep legitimate information from the public eye.
You'd be like, awesome.
Let's see the information.
And I go, I've got a screenshot.
What would you say to me?
I'd say, where's the file?
Where's the PDF?
Where's the email exchange where I have a database in which I can do keyword searches bare minimum to go through the plethora of documents that have showed this corruption?
And I've seen a lot of people.
You know, I've been really blessed the last few months, Steve.
Obviously, loving my time over at Red Voice Media.
But there's another outlet out there called America Media Periscope, where I've been sitting in and hosting a show called Making Sense of the Madness.
I'm actually a paid contributor there once a week.
And I often get to interview people.
I wouldn't normally interview, or I'm not in contact with, etc., via different issues.
And for me, some of these things are a little hopium-based, if you will, right?
So I often challenge these people, but if I'm ignorant to a subject, right, I'll lay off it.
I'll let them say what they will, and I'll say, you know, I certainly hope it goes that way.
I'd like to talk about the Brunson case with you in a little bit as well, that's gaining some traction out there.
But one of the things I've heard from, I believe it was Chris Paul, who I don't know much about.
I've got to admit to everybody, I haven't done a lot of research on Chris.
He seems like a very well-spoken guy.
His bio is that he was one of those guys within the entertainment industry, publicist, party guy types that are setting up all these different things.
He says that Musk has said after all these journalists get these documents, he's going to do a WikiLeaks style dump of the information.
If that is the case, great.
But as far as I've seen, Steve, and I've looked, you know, I have not seen any indication that is what the Muskernuts is going to do.
I certainly hope that's what he's going to do.
I don't think he's going to do it.
I'm not holding my breath.
But then at the same time, one of the issues that I believe that Elon really is good on, right, is population control.
And the fact that he talks about that being a myth.
And I don't know whether you saw it or not, but recently you had the Dilbert guy, Scott Adams, put out a poll where he was talking about population reduction.
And basically it said, yes, there is.
No, I don't think so, but maybe.
And absolutely not.
But when he framed it, he said, group of elites or leftists or important people.
And Musk gave a response saying, this is not a left or right issue.
Run antivirus software on your brain.
And I would have to agree with him.
This is an authoritarian issue.
We know there are people that are portrayed on both sides of the political fence that are openly about population control and reduction, Steve.
100%.
And Scott Adams has been a mystifying figure in the last couple of years.
I did, never once in my life have I ever thought, yeah, I wonder what the guy from Gilbert's thinking.
But it turns out that he is the source of endless comedic material and just, you know, a springboard for which you can have larger conversations because he thinks he's smarter than everybody.
So when he believes a narrative, that's fact.
And until months go by and he's disproven in multiple areas, he won't let up on that.
So when he's framing a question, he's framing a question in the way that, I guess, mainstream quasi-neoliberal society thinks.
Like he's a good sounding board for a somewhat informed mainstream opinion.
So if he's framing it as left-right or trying to frame it in a more like independent media parlance where it's global elites or whatever, these are buzzwords that he's picking up on.
And for Elon Musk to step in and be like, well, honestly, no, it's me and my friends versus all the peasants that I want to pay me $8 a month so I can lease them their identity back.
People should pay attention to that.
No, I absolutely agree.
And look, I'll say this.
The guy's got the gift of gab.
Buzzwords and Machinations00:04:21
You know me, Steve.
I don't sit there and I don't watch a lot of alternative or even mainstream press.
Not watching the Tim Cass show or sitting down for Scott Adams or even Rogan at this point.
Really, Rogan had me when it was just a YouTube feed and they had the smaller ones.
I'd find a 10 or 15 minute clip and I'd be like, you know what, this is interesting.
It'd be on the background and I'd be doing my thing, making thumbnails, figuring that stuff out.
And that's usually how I consume my media.
So I understand the appeal of people like him.
But I specifically remember post 2020 election, him getting into, in my opinion, the field of hopium when it came to flipping the script for Trump.
He came out pretty early on with the Bannon-esque talking points of how they were going to take back Pennsylvania, flip this state, maybe even Arizona.
And there you go, that's all you needed for Trump.
You and I have been looking at real election integrity now for a very long time prior to the Trump presidency.
And that just seemed like a lot of hokeum because the levers of power and control had not changed from the very corrupt nature that was there in 2016, that was there in 2012, that was there in 2008, whether people were looking or not.
And that locomotive has only gained traction and gained speed, in my opinion, Steve.
With the advances in technology that we've had, and I've made the argument that I was born in 1978.
I don't know if there's ever been a free and fair election in my lifetime, but I know for a fact that in the era of electronic voting machines, there has never been a free and fair election in this country.
And so we're, by the time the next presidential election comes around, we'll be almost a quarter century into this technology.
In the interstercing years, it's only been easier for people to apply little tweaks to rig a vote.
It's only been easier to divide a population based on whether or not your team got robbed.
And we've got now every election cycle from 2000 forward in the era of electronic voting machines where one political party or the other is saying this was a rigged election.
This was not fair.
These specific things were done illegally and wrong.
And people admit this on one side or the other, but they're not looking at this is across the board that it's it there's a cycle to who's getting screwed over or which party is getting the shaft on this.
And it's the machinations themselves.
It's the institution itself.
It's the organizational structure above the election committee that is allowing for all of this malfeasance to happen.
And if we don't address that, if we're just mired down in partisan bickering, or if it's only and always going to be, what's your name in Arizona, not Carrie Lake, but the yeah, yeah, yeah.
If it's always going to be her fault or her party's fault, then nothing's ever going to get done about it because you're admitting that you're actually powerless to do anything.
Well, it's also weird because so many of these people want to talk about the Uniparty to their credit.
You know, people like Chip Roy are at least talking about the quote-unquote Uniparty, but we've been screaming about the Uniparty for how long now?
Even Michael Moore in his film Capitalism: a Love Story.
If you want to go back, guys, if you want to go, hit the rewind button, get up on the on-demand, find yourself some Michael Moore.
It's actually a pretty decent movie, in my opinion.
But he literally says, and Wall Street found their man.
It was Barack Obama.
And meanwhile, he lauds the Barack star all the time at this point.
He made a movie where he defines the plutocracy, shows you documentation on what that means and their mechanisms of power.
Epstein Case Standing00:14:11
And he falls right back into that bullshit, false left-right paradigm.
And there's so many people that are still playing team baseball, whether or not they realize it.
Sorry, guys, if you're on the MAGA train and just the Trump train, you think that's outside of the right-left spectrum.
You're not paying attention.
Perhaps it's a little rogue, but certainly not rogue enough.
And that brings me to the Brunson case.
Now, I had no idea about this case or the legitimacy of this case.
Again, I mentioned that I've been hosting a show every once in a while sitting in via the American Media Periscope.
And so they bring on, you know, they book everybody, a guy named Juan Osavan.
Okay.
And apparently that is some kind of a pseudonym.
It is not his real name.
The guy doesn't put his face on camera.
And that's where I'm introduced to this case.
Okay.
And I don't know anything about the Brunson brothers, but I am looking forward to possibly getting one of them on to discuss the case at length.
And he starts talking about this Supreme Court case that a lot of people feel like they're going to put on the docket perhaps on January 6th.
I got news for you.
Not going to happen.
Okay.
I hope I'm wrong, everybody.
I don't think they're even going to hear the case.
Okay.
I think it's a lot of hopium.
And during the interview, there was kind of a precursor to that that they could push it along further.
So you get the hopium up to January 6th.
And then you've got just like you did via Trump and the stop the steal stuff.
And then after January 6th, there was this hopium that something in March was going to happen and blah, There's a new date.
Never happened.
Imagination.
It's like the rapture.
Yeah, it just keeps coming and coming and coming.
It is.
It's almost like a religious experience.
And while I'm talking to O'Savin, basically, you know this and I know this, that the reason that we didn't see any real court cases via the 2020 election is that in most cases, they were shot down with the excuse that you don't have standing to sue.
You don't have standing.
There is no standing.
And somehow, this case seems like, at least to the level, there is some standing that they may hear it.
And that's why it's gotten pushed forward this far.
But where the hopium comes in, in my opinion, is the fact that, you know, this guy was talking about they're going to hear the case, they're going to rule on it.
And when they do rule in favor of it, somehow all those people that were elected via the 2020 and 2022 cycle, their elections are no longer going to be valid, and they're not going to be senators and congressmen anymore.
Let me just tell everybody this: 0% chance that happens.
Okay.
I want everybody to understand that.
Zero.
Not 0.00001%.
Zero.
I will eat my pinky live on air, live on air.
I will chop it off and gulp it down if the Supreme Court.
All in all.
All of it.
If the Supreme Court hears the case, rules in favor, okay?
And then all these people are basically suspended from their jobs and we have new elections.
That's not real, everybody.
I'm sorry.
It's not real.
It's never going to be real.
And if I had to guess, I'd say there's about a one in 10,000 chance, a one in 10,000 chance they even hear the case.
And then there's about a one in 10 million chance they rule in its favor.
You think that's correct analysis?
Have you heard of this case?
What are your thoughts?
The case itself is new to me, but the parameters of it are very familiar and the rhetoric around it is very familiar.
And we're seeing similar things happen in the medical freedom movement too, where there have been a number of cases that have made it past stage one, but are not going to make it past stage two.
And it's unfortunate because we have a captured court system.
We have a just us system that applies to people who are at the top echelons of power.
And if you're going up against them, the cases don't have standing, Jason, in my opinion, because the lawyers aren't making a serious challenge.
And they're not making a serious challenge because they know better.
If they were to actually challenge it in earnest, the whole house of cards collapse.
This was my argument about the Durham investigation.
It's going to be my argument about when they look into Hunter Biden's laptop in a couple of months when they inaugurate the incoming GOP Majority Congress.
These are all going to be limited scope investigations.
If it does make it, if the Supreme Court does find that this case has standing, what they're going to do is so limit the scope of the parameter of it when it actually comes in front of the judges that they're not going to be able to argue the pertinent facts of the case that would blow it open.
This has happened over and over and over in every election challenge where they've so far limited the scope of what you're allowed to talk about that you can't introduce information that would blow the lid off of it.
It's going to happen in January, the January 6th stuff, because look at what's happening with Ray Apps, man.
They finally released that transcript where he's like, yeah, I orchestrated it.
And you've got liberals going, well, hey, look, maybe we should really, you know, back up a minute because we don't have the whole picture here yet.
Like they're defending this guy.
So as long as you have put it out into the public that this is what's being investigated, they did that with the Mueller stuff too.
This is what's being investigated.
It's a laser thin scope.
You can run your propaganda operation around that and make endless streams of hopium for either team red or team blue.
Meanwhile, we're still committing a genocide in Yemen.
We're still sending however many billions of dollars to a midget cokehead in Ukraine.
We're getting ready to launch a cold war against China, if not a hot war activated off of the shores of Taiwan.
All of these, the digital currency is coming into play, digital health passports, all of these things that have nothing to do with casting a vote are taking place.
But the distraction theater, the distraction porn, that's, it's all, it's going to be all this, this red meat opium nonsense.
Well, let me say this.
You know, I think that there are certain cases and certain lawyers that are going beyond the spectrum of where they know they're going to be limited and know they're not going to have standing.
And one of those Cases would have been the Kerry Lake case and that lawsuit.
It felt like they had gotten a lot of information together.
They were doing everything they possibly could legally, but we now live within a system, the injustice system or the just us system, as you said, where that case doesn't go to a trial by jury of her peers.
And instead, you have a corrupt judge that just throws out the case.
Now, that is in stark contrast to if you have billions of dollars and basically unlimited resource sources, like a Dominion, who can sue somebody like Mike Lindell, who has a lot of resources and millions, into the ground, or sue somebody like Clay Clark into the ground.
And they'll allow that every single time.
But if you dare stand up to them, they don't even want it before a jury because they don't want the jury to look at that information.
And that's where the corrupt judges come in, Steve.
Yeah, if you're going to examine a court case, watching right now in the audience, and you want to get a feel for how any of these cases is going to go.
First person you look at is the judge.
And then you look at where they went to school or who they might be connected to or what civic groups they're also a part of, because then you're going to get a really clear picture of how the case is going to play out.
There's been a number of judges that have very clear deep state ties.
And a lot of these cases get dismissed out of pocket before they ever see the light of day.
And then you find out like a year and a half later, oh, that judge just got a new appointment.
Oh, that judge just is now on a federal district court instead of whatever state superior court they were in.
Oh, that judge now works out of the SDN line.
So it's very political in its own right.
Well, it's advantageous.
You kind of fail upwards.
I think Alex Acosta would be a great example of that.
That, again, goes beyond this left-right spectrum.
Where if you see Acosta and you see that he was, you know, the prosecutor during the Epstein case down in Florida, we had the information come out that it was above his pay grade.
He cuts this sweetheart deal with Epstein where he's not really even in jail, everybody.
I just want everybody to know it wasn't even a vacation townhouse.
He was allowed to leave like every day.
They had a private investigator on the guy that said when he left, he went to housing and different real estate where women were coming in.
And when I say women, we don't know how old they are.
We very much could be girls.
He continued to do what he was doing with not even a little slap on the wrist and then protected those around him, sealed it all up nice and clean.
And then finally, when we continued to force the issue via what?
The alternative media for over a decade, it began to gain traction.
They eventually will burn you, but what did it cost to get a nice little Trump appointment?
And it wasn't until Acosta had to address that very thing about intelligence that he had to give up his position.
A lot of people forget that, don't want to remember it.
He got asked on the spot.
He didn't answer the question.
He talked around it.
He said, don't believe everything in the news.
And the next day, he was arm in arm with Trump on television, resigning, resigning.
That's how the system really works.
Instead, Trump should have been arm in arm with him and said, Alex, tell everybody what happened.
Alex, tell everybody what happened.
Who did this?
Who said it was above their pay grade?
Let's take these out.
Hey, Trump couldn't do that because whether you love Trump or hate Trump, you can't deny that he was in business and associated and friendly with Epstein, at least at some point in his lifetime and riding around on planes with him too.
Forget about the list.
Let's get to reality, everybody.
There is no list, okay?
There are a bunch of photographs and videos that are effing incriminating on a lot of very powerful people.
And the FBI, CIA, and intelligence apparatus, aka the deep state, is a huge part of that, Steve.
100%.
And it's the private intelligence firms, too.
And when we're talking, to the best of my digging, the reason that I have found the split between Trump and Jeffrey Epstein was over a property in southern Florida.
And I think that I can't remember what the name of it was, but it actually translates to friendship or something ironic like that, is what the name of the property was.
Now, not only, let me just stop you there.
Not only was that reported in the mainstream media, and essentially it was a property in which Trump was openly interested in and said he was going to purchase, had a conversation with Epstein about and Epstein, I guess, usurped him and bought that property up, and that may have caused the rift.
But there was also reports, and again, we're not saying this is fact, but you just said to the best of your digging, that seems to be where the falling out was.
This is stuff that we were reporting on before the infamous like dancing Trump Epstein video was going on.
Well, you had the other former NBA player and politician in the background, that tall drink of water, I forget his name.
But also Bill Walton, right?
Yes.
Yes, I believe so.
But also, you had the mainstream reports, which nobody in the alternative other than a handful have reported on, that he met Melania through a party thrown by Epstein, where it was basically an audition via 20-plus women on who was going to be wifey number three.
I'm not saying that's fact.
I'm saying that's out there in the mainstream and it has not been amplified at all.
And it certainly is rarely discussed or acknowledged with the MAGA crowd.
Well, the one more thing to that, it's never denied.
Nobody's pushed back on that.
Nobody, Melania never came out and said that's garbage.
Trump never came out and said it's garbage.
Nobody in their sphere, not even the kids that may have something to gain by taking a shot at him.
And they sued other people into the ground, Steve.
Let me make that clear.
They sued other people into the ground for any statement on Melania.
The best example of that would be Webster Tarpley, who again put it out into the arena.
And I'm not saying this.
I want to make sure we don't get sued.
Redvoicemedia.com/slash Jason.
That basically Tarpley had said that Melania was a high-end prostitute.
I'm not saying that.
I want to make that extremely clear.
Okay.
She was a model.
She was in B-type Skinamax-esque films.
That's that's anybody can look that up.
That's what she was.
Okay.
I don't know that she was a prostitute.
Tarpley put that out there.
And Tarpley has done a lot of work on George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, obviously, both Bushes.
He did, you know, The Barack Star and that book as well.
Never got sued.
They sued his ass immediately and won.
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Okay.
Why were there no lawsuits?
Why was there no pushback on that story?
It makes you wonder, Steve.
Well, there's no one more litigious than Donald Trump.
Donald Trump has made his career out of engaging in or ducking and getting out of lawsuits.
That's just, it's one of the most commonly known things about the guy.
And what frustrates me to know, and Jason, is that we have friends that do this.
They pretend like Donald Trump didn't exist until mid-2015, you know, or they'll pretend that Elon Musk is somehow not the brain chip guy and the spy satellite guy and the we're going to go to the fake moon guy and like all of that.
They have to pretend or compartmentalize so much in order to what own the libs?
Like, come on, dude, let's let's actually get to the heart of the matter here so that we can do something about it.
So let's talk 2023.
We're here.
We're here, bro.
We're 2023.
We're only two years away from 2025.
I often go to that future strategic warfare document on 2025.
It seems to be a blueprint for the last 20 to 30 years.
We have not only Agenda 21, but now Agenda 2030.
The new buzzword everywhere is sustainability.
You and I both know that sustainability simply means that the standard of living for Westernized nations will plummet and individuals will plummet as more systems of command and control are built on the already here track, trace, database society we all live in, whether we want it or not.
How far can they take it this year?
This is a really good question.
And I think that it's something that we're going to, we're actually going to be able to influence.
Okay.
Independent media has the opportunity to help determine the answer to this.
And we did some incredible work last year.
We probably prevented full open war boots on the ground in Ukraine on a number of different occasions.
There were multiple times where the U.S. government was trying to push for open war via false flag attacks, blowing up the pipeline, blowing up the Crimean Bridge.
They had the rocket attack that killed two people in Poland.
It was Russian rocket that was fired from Ukrainian defense forces because they bought Soviet-era Russian rockets for this exact purpose.
And it was real-time debunking of this in the independent media that made them just what the they won't even acknowledge what happened.
They'll just do something next.
They'll just drop coverage of that and move on to a new distraction.
So as long as we can keep the pressure on, we have the opportunity then, Jason, to keep educating people about central bank digital currencies, about the blockchain life, about WeChat for the West, which is what Elon Musk has openly said he wants Twitter to become, where your entire life is contained in this one app.
And you do all of your banking, all of your medical, all of your food purchases, all of your clothes purchases, and all of your communication with other human beings via This one app.
There's going to be a wallet connected to it.
We're in the middle of a central bank digital currency experiment on the wholesale end via the New York Federal Exchange right now.
We're about six weeks into it right now.
I do think that average, everyday, regular human beings, Jason, are going to push back on this.
And when they do push back on it, we have the same unique opportunity that we have to get the truth out to get people on board talking about real alternative systems to the massively centralized, technocratic, ultra-fascistic state that doesn't have a political party or a political ideology other than total control.
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And they are going to bring on people from every conceivable side of the aisle and co-op them and pay them handsomely and threaten them in order to get their agenda out.
So I think we can push back on this, though.
I really, really do.
We've got more hope going into 2023 than I did going into 2022.
Well, that's good news, man.
I always like to hear some positivity.
But in regards to what you just said of bringing in people from every side of the political spectrum, one of the things that I reported on, I know you reported on it too, was Bilderberg in New York City and the specter of secrecy around that being extreme in regards to where we were the last 10, 15 years via Bilderberg.
You know, Alex Jones, love them or hate him, he spearheaded that.
He made it from nobody knew about it to people were protesting to hundreds to thousands to it being ignored again, but to come back around to the point where what?
They were telling you when and where the meetings were, usually about a week in advance.
Didn't get it this year.
They had the cojones the size of my head to have it in the middle of New York City and nobody showed up.
I remember seeing it on Thursday.
Blumenthal went and Frank's analysis 100%.
And I give them credit and Blumenthal almost got the front door.
Max, hey, Gray Zone, I may not agree with everything you did.
I'm glad you did that.
My point is, they didn't bring in a lot of U.S. politicians.
They did bring in Kristen Cinema.
Okay.
And then all of a sudden, in the last few weeks, Kristen Cinema is an independent.
She's getting all of this press.
I said, from the outlook of that, keep an eye on this woman.
And now everybody's eyebrows should be up here in regards to her.
100%.
And you know who the other political figure, though, not elected, but part of the steering committee at Bilderberg this year, Stacey Abrams.
So we, there, it's Kristen Cinema is one of those.
I always feel like she's been somebody's op.
And she started out like a green and then threw the greens under the bus and went and became a Democrat and then did some stuff that looked like she was throwing the Democrats under the bus and now she's an independent.
So her arc is going to be pretty interesting.
And, you know, she checks off a couple, like she checks off the LGBT box and she checks off a couple other different boxes that are going to make her marketable going forward.
It's because of you, Jason, and then like some of the rest of us that Max showed up with a camera to Bilderberg.
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That's why.
And that Franco did too.
But I mean, and again, this is something the mainstream was forced to comment, or at least like the more mainstream, quote-unquote, independent outlets were forced to comment on Bilderberg this year because of that.
Because You did, I did a couple of pushed the issue and said, why the fuck isn't anyone talking about this?
And why if they were so secret about it for a reason?
So why aren't there people demanding answers?
And then we got a couple of people motivated to go do that.
So as shadowy and secretive as it is, and as hard as it is for us to have truly private communications, we're still able to put pressure on these people.
And we have a legitimate rise of solutionary-minded individuals who are working overtime to come up with alternative economic solutions with regional or more local food production solutions.
The supply chains are under attack.
We know this.
If you want to be able to stay away from putting poison into your body 24-7, you do have to, on some level, either grow your own food or buy as local as possible from people who are treating their ground right and treating their food right.
But I do truly believe, Jay, that everything we need to do to break this centralized control, we've already done.
We've already done successfully throughout history.
And the thing that's separating us the most is that they've got us, you know, sectioned off into our own little bubble echo chambers.
And it's going to be cross-pollination as much as possible where we're having these talks.
That's what's going to get us out.
Well, we continually need to have these discussions.
I think that people have to look in the mirror and have to, I say it all the time.
You got to be your own hero.
You got to decide what you're going to do, what you're comfortable with, how you're going to navigate these situations, because there are nobody, there is no group out there.
There is no individual that is coming to save us.
They will constantly sell you on saviors and superheroes, often billionaires, all the Bruce Wayens of the world.
The Bruce Waynes are coming.
The Bruce Waytons are coming.
My question is.
Elon Musk literally tweeted out a picture of Batman the other day where he's like, oh man, it's really hard being me.
You know, kind of about it.
You know what?
Let's just hit that really quick before you go.
We have been conditioned subliminally whether we know it via Batman.
All right.
I want everybody to think about this real long and hard right now.
Billionaires know better than us.
They're the true vigilantes and they want to save us.
And that character in particular was chosen outside of Superman because he didn't have superpowers.
His superpower was money.
And if you look at culture, he had probably the most successful television show for a superhero in that era.
A lot of people forget they had like the 1950s black and white Superman show, kind of successful.
Nowhere near as successful as the Batman and Robin show, right?
That actually got a movie back in its day.
It was really the first big superhero movie via Tim Burton back in the 80s.
Again, reiterating, this is the guy.
This is the one that we want.
And to this day, I would argue other than Superman is DC's biggest asset and constantly portrayed as a savior.
And if you look at the Christopher Nolan movies, especially, I believe it was, see, I think it was the second one.
It was the Joker one, which everybody loved.
They loved it.
Oh, Heath Ledgeworth.
Let me tweak my nipples.
It's so good.
He literally sets up a nano sensor surveillance system where you don't need the cameras or the CCTV for total surveillance of everything.
But don't worry, he's using it to act benevolently.
This is the exact same nano sensor system that is advertised by NASA by Dennis Bushnell and will be enabled through things like Starlink, which NASA representatives have talked about being a new artificial skin for the planet, Steve.
Yep.
And we just did, we did a physical article, artificial skin report on AM Wake Up this week.
These are, in terms of pushing a narrative for the superhero and billionaire saviors, this is something that's been ingrained in the American psyche for 50, 60 years now.
60 years.
Like we're multiple generations into this line of thinking.
And then we're also multiple generations of families who have had their entire framework scrambled by SSRIs.
And I don't know.
Okay.
Between fluoride SSRIs and constant propaganda, we've got a society primed for control and malleability.
So I'm glad that you're here pushing back.
I'm glad that there's some other, you know, the rest of us pushing back.
Billionaires aren't going to save you.
You're your own savior.
Be your own freaking hero.
You can do this.
I believe in you.
Yeah.
And unfortunately, the social engineering has us all believing, not all of us, but the vast majority of us that we have to be part of this celebratard billionaire culture where it's your house and it's your money that decides whether you're a good person or a great person or not.
And the more you have of those things, the more you are elevated within this society.
I'm going to tell you right now, those people feel really empty on the inside a lot of the times.
That's why they're on wives three and four.
That's why their children hate them.
That's why Army Hammer is sending out texts that he wants to eat people.
I would suggest everybody watch, sorry to bother you.
And Army Hammer turned out to be perfect for the role he played in that film.
Steve Poikinen, what do you got coming up via Slow News Day, via AM Wake Up?
And even what's going on with Action for Assange and that case in the coming days and months?
Tell the audience.
So please check us out on Rockfin and Rumble Monday through Friday, 7 a.m. to 10 a.m. Pacific.
So we go on right after Jason every morning.
You could do that.
We're going to have some great stuff coming up.
In fact, this week starts on Friday, Anarchipoco starts.
And Charlie Robinson, who's the host of Macro Aggressions, fantastic podcast, also one of the hosts of the Union of the Unwanted.
He's going down.
He's going to be AM Wake Up's on the ground correspondent for Anarchipoco.
We're going to be looking at interviews with Max Egan, Del Bigtree, Ron Paul, a couple other people, Larkin Rose, a handful of other speakers at Anarchipoco.
Jay Dyer's coming back on the show.
Really good stuff coming up.
Episode 400 of Slow News Day will be next Sunday.
400 shows of that under the belt now.
Pretty crazy.
The Assange case is moving to another decision here relatively soon as to whether or not extradition does go ahead or it gets kicked back to the court.
Would expect to see at least a Department of Justice event like Action for Assange would normally do for something like this, if not more.
There's billboard campaigns going on all the time.
Let's see, anything.
Oh, I have a show, Jason.
I don't even know if I've talked to you about this.
I have a new show that I've been doing with my friend Sugar up in North Vegas every Thursday night where we just do like lifestyle and relationship and why people have a problem talking to people in real life now.
It's a total checkout from the stuff that we normally do.
It's been incredibly fun.
It's called Blunt Force Wisdom.
We get higher than a Georgia pine and just talk life stuff.
It's fantastic.
That's on the Slow News Day Rockfin Thursday nights at like seven on the West Coast.
All right, Steve.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Much love and happy new year, brother.
My friend, Happy New Year.
Great to see you as always.
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