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Freedom To Speak In A Post Truth World

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Kangaroo Court Conviction Rate 00:12:41
Hey, everybody, Jason Burmes here, and we got a banger of a show with you.
Here's the deal.
Julian Assange is and has been the issue via free speech and journalism for some time now.
It's not only not getting enough press, but those that do cover it don't seem to really understand or accentuate to their audience how important this is.
And if he is brought over, extradited illegally to the United States and tried via this kangaroo court, it is the end of any type of freedom of speech.
It is the end of any legitimate journalism whatsoever and is the beginning of the criminalization of speech in a command and control culture I don't want to live in.
And that's why we have Andrew from Action for Assange with us to not only discuss these issues, but also talk about some of the speakers that are going to be out in DC from, I believe it's noon to four now.
A lot of great speakers, Jill Stein, Randy Credico, John Keriaku, Chris Hedges, and many others.
Andrew, let's first talk about Assange himself and where we are, what stage of the game this is with his latest appeal.
Absolutely.
So to catch everybody up, the British courts have said, yes, Julian can be extradited.
On January 4th, 2021, Vanessa Breitzer did deny the extradition temporarily based on mental health grounds and prison conditions in the U.S., but didn't allow any arguments about free speech or any of that to go through.
In other words, let's stop there for a second.
Her ruling was absolutely terrible on behalf of the free speech argument.
She basically sided with the state on every issue.
And when he talks about the facilities and mental health, she essentially came to the conclusion there was no way that the United States could actually guarantee that Julian did not commit suicide.
And on that judgment alone is the first time that he was denied extradition.
And many people were stunned, as you and I were, that that had first taken place, but really left this loophole to say, don't worry, scouts on her.
We're going to clean it up and we're not going to have an Epstein situation.
Yep.
And it's even darker than that because we knew going into that January 4th hearing that the CIA had been plotting the assassination of Julian, that they had confiscated all of his belongings and given him to the United States after he was taken out of the embassy.
He was actually sold with an IMF loan to the country of Ecuador for $4.2 billion.
And what ended up happening is the judge dismissed the information about the U.S. getting all of his personal possessions from the embassy and said, literally said that there's a Chinese wall between the intelligence community and the Department of Justice that would prevent them from being able to communicate about what they found in the embassy.
When they were talking about the assassination and the spying that UC Global did against Julian, the judge basically went as far as to say that like, well, what did you think was going to happen?
We were publishing national security information.
You think the CIA wouldn't target you?
So that was a really disturbing development in and of itself, because that original ruling back in 2021 basically gave the U.S. everything but the physical body of Julian, right?
They had all of the legal precedent that they can target any journalist around the world, excepted without clause or measure.
It was just, hey, you know, maybe you shouldn't torture people in your prisons.
Like, do a little propaganda on that, and maybe we can send him over.
Absolutely.
And once again, the issues here are: number one, the guy has a hundred percent track record of every single thing being published being 100% real.
That's step one.
Step two is that he exposed global war crimes.
Step three is he's not a U.S. citizen and never has been ever.
Step four is he had to actually go into hiding at the Ecuadorian embassy, not because he had been charged with anything, but because a kangaroo court/slash trial was in the works via false sexual assault accusations.
And he was never able to get himself out of that Ecuadorian situation whatsoever, other than to be dragged out by the very law enforcement and intelligence apparatuses that had spied on him for years and colluded to either capture, kidnap, or kill him.
You know, you mentioned UC Global.
That's the privatized Israeli firm working via Sheldon Adelson with that intelligence apparatus.
And then on top of that, in court documents, you had competing spy agencies, the UK in particular, that supposedly were surveilling outside with cars full of agents that were ready to go in and take him out on a whim.
Yep, they actually had teams set up 24 hours a day, seven days a week from almost any country you can imagine that had interest outside of the Ecuadorian embassy.
Like if there was anyone, the joke was if there was anyone within a block of the embassy, they either were a civilian supporter of Julian or worked for an intelligent agency for any state, not just the U.S.
But it reached the point inside the embassy where I don't know if people are familiar with the V for Vendetta or that movie, but if you remember the little white noise machines, the triangle laser boxes that generated a static sound so recording equipment couldn't hear you.
Julian actually used one of those in the embassy because he thought that, rightly so, UC Global had installed microphones into the meeting rooms, into the women's bathrooms, and all these other places throughout the embassy.
So what ended up having, what the CIA ended up doing was getting UC Global to install laser microphones into the embassy to listen through the vibration of the glass in the window off of their voice where the white noise machine couldn't actually affect the physical glass itself with the static sound that it was making.
So even just that little portion is how dystopian these people are willing to go.
And that's just with a dude at an embassy publishing papers.
That's not even with someone that would actually organize a resistance.
That's not with a competing cartel member, aka El Chapo.
That's not with the head of another intelligence organization or a not-so-puppet dictator.
Again, this is a journalist.
This is a citizen outside of their own country that they went after.
Now.
So where we stand right now, just to get us caught up, because that was the beginning of 2021, appeals processes taken place.
And at the end of the day, the British court said, no, you can extradite Julian.
Right?
They said, no, you can give the U.S. his body, even though we've given them every law that they wanted.
And so right now it's in the case where Julian's legal team has filed appeals with the United Kingdom Supreme Court.
It's been turned down and now they're filing essentially another appeal that's been placed to try to get the other portion or what's called the cross appeal put into motion and get a, I think the term in the UK is like a principled appeal.
Like essentially they went through and fine-tuned everything that they had to say according to what the British courts decorum stated they must do kind of thing.
So that could be rejected at any moment.
It could be accepted and the case could drag on in the UK for another two years, four years, just however long that they basically decide to keep this man in the Guantanamo Bay of the United Kingdom.
Absolutely.
But let's talk about the catastrophe if in fact he is brought over to the United States.
Now, number one, we live in the post-truth world and the popular narrative surrounding Julian Assange with establishment authoritative media is that he was some kind of conduit for Russia, especially in the case of the DNC emails.
And he is just a pawn of Putin and a puppet.
Now, it is ironic to me that the Trump administration, the legal avenue that they seem to be going after them on, is the same one he failed to protect Julian Assange from, aka the Espionage Act.
In both cases, it is absolutely absurd.
But again, Trump didn't want to pardon him.
Trump wanted to play ball with Dana Rohrbacher.
He wanted to make him give up his sources.
You know, he didn't want to get into reality land and actually stand up for the First Amendment like he should have.
And again, for somebody who was foreign.
So now we're in this spot that if Julian Assange is extradited, Andrew, he is going into a court system that does not have any real due process or protection of Julian whatsoever and instead has a hundred percent conviction rate.
Speak to that.
Yeah, I mean, if you look at John Kiriaku and the way that he describes his court trial, they're not even allowed to describe in words the information that was released, right?
Because in the classification system, it doesn't matter if WikiLeaks publish the information or not.
It's not allowed to be discussed by the federal government in a forum that is not inside of a SCIF or other secure area.
So what ends up happening is the judge will literally be reading the charges and it'll say Julian Assange released literal, they'll insert words like bread or puppies or hairbrushes or whatever in regards to this case to basically make the jury who's already from national security country in eastern Virginia even more skeptical because their families are working for the deep state,
working for the intelligence community.
They may not be people with security clearances themselves, but when they hear words that are where the situation is so dangerous, right, that the judge can't even use the words to describe what the crime is in an effective manner.
And then as the defendant in an Espionage Act case, you can't enter a public interest defense.
So you can't say, well, yes, I may have released puppies about the hairbrush in the jail known as Insert Word.
You can't even say you did that because someone was being tortured, because that torture was classified.
That's what John Kiriaku ran into when he was trying to expose the war crimes and programs the United States was.
We're not even able to discuss what is happening without using words that make it seem cartoonish.
And let's break that down a little further.
Kariako is the real deal, and how you know he's the real deal is that the media didn't fawn over him.
All right, instead, he was punished for daring to speak out against just the most simple types of torture, waterboarding, which is despicable enough.
Assange published paperwork that showed that in Abu Ghraib, you had children being raped with battery acid at the end of broomsticks in front of their parents.
Okay, I just want to show levels to this, guys.
And that's not to say that Keriaku is any less of a hero.
It's to point out that the atrocities that even the media spoke about and then demonized him for talking about were much less than what was publicly known via what Julian Assange released to the public.
Now, when you see these other whistleblowers that are being protected, aka the Erica Caramello bars of the world where you can't even say their name, or this woman who's blowing the whistle on Facebook and election integrity and all this other Johnny nonsense.
That's not real.
Roger Stone And The Russian Collusion Scandal 00:05:30
John Keriaku is real, and John Keriaku is going to be at this event speaking.
Now, before we get into one of the other speakers, since we just talked about Keriaku, I want to give a big list right here.
And by the way, you can follow Andrew over here at Andrew Zygmunt on Twitter.
And you got Eliza Blue, James Bovart, Reverend Annie Chambers, Ben Cohen, Marsha Coleman.
I'm going to butcher Adabio.
Randy Credico, he's the next person I want to talk about.
David DeCamp, Stephen Donziger, Chip Gibbons, Kevin Costolza, Chris Hedges, another big name.
Again, Kariako, Joe Laura, Garland Nixon, Sabrina Salavate, and Jill Stein.
Let's talk Credico.
For those who are unfamiliar with Randy Credico, let's give the reader's digest on how he works into the Assange world and how his association with Roger Stone was construed into this big piece of the Russian collusion scandal.
Yeah, so Randy Credico has been one of the hosts running a show called The Countdown to Freedom for Julian for a very long time.
Even before we started the vigils, he had done a few episodes.
He's worked alongside of Misty, who's my cohort in all this.
Susie Dawson, Joe Lauria.
He's a fan of Roger Waters.
Syron Hirsch, I think his name is, is another former friend of Randy Credico's, and there's a bunch of others.
I mean, Seymour Hirsch?
No, no, no, no, not Seymour Hirsch.
It's an Australian siren something.
Okay.
I can't remember his last name, but he's one of the musician people in Australia, like a celebrity out there that supports Julian.
And with the whole, well, the part that I want to talk about, I guess, because I'm not too familiar with his involvement with Randy Credico, or not with Randy Credico, with Stone?
My brain's prying out of it.
Roger Stone?
Roger Stone.
Yeah.
I can talk about what the indictments about Roger Stone were saying, because I know that, but I don't know any particulars about their relationship.
So I don't want to just impose something there.
But when Roger Stone actually, in the 2016 elections, was going around acting like Roger Stone, right?
He's a particular personality type.
Everyone knows who Roger Stone is.
He's Mr. Politics.
He essentially was trying to convince people that he had more information than they had based on press releases that Wikileaks had previously put out, right?
Like he said that he knew information was coming out about Hillary Clinton a few months after Kim.com had said that.
He had talked about how they were going to be releasing information about the DNC and all of these things after Wikileaks had published all of this.
And then you actually see communications between Stone and Wikileaks where he was saying, hey, give me a heads up.
Like give me some information.
Like show me what you're planning.
And like Julian did to everyone, he literally told him no.
He was like, get in line, essentially.
You can read the actual dialogue between the two in the transcripts.
But it was literally just Stone trying to play politics between that side of the field, in my opinion, I guess.
Like the, hey, I'll get some information from him to do this thing.
I'll promise this guy some information if he helps me with this, because that's essentially Roger Stone's M.O.
And I personally see Randy Credico not in the same light, but kind of with the same idea, like the follow the white rabbit, there's another shoe that's going to drop.
And not even that he's a bad or good guy.
But earlier in like 2021, Roger Stone or Randy Credico, sorry, had been going around saying that like he knew someone in the Biden Justice Department and Merrick Garland owed him a favor and that like we knew for sure signing this petition, if we got enough people that they would drop the charges against the Department of Justice.
And it's something that some friends of mine from the Schiller Institute and the LaRouche Society actually talked to Randy Credico and Roger Waters about an event in DC that they got shut out of.
They were like, hey, we're not totally like we have our plan.
We know what's going on.
So I think that leads to a larger point of like, don't trust people's plans.
Like don't trust my plan.
Don't trust a board's plan.
Don't trust Credico's plan or Stone's plan, right?
Because at the end of the day, like each one of us is responsible to take a principled stance in the world and be our own heroes and write our own stories.
So that's the most important thing is there are all these people, the stones and the credit codes and the message boards, right?
That all say we're happening this way.
And even for the other side of the field, right?
You had like Blue Anon, essentially, like the people that were like, Russia Gates coming, you know, the other shoe is going to drop.
The walls are closing in, folks.
So it happens all around the political spectrum that people get caught up in this waiting for the next event to happen instead of creating the optimism and activism that's needed in the moment to prevent these dire things from going on.
Waiting for the Next Event 00:07:20
Well, I think one of the better journalists out there that really comes at it from that perspective and sticks to what he can prove and has been in the field for a very long time and been realistic in the freedom of speech and anti-war movement is Chris Hedges.
He's been one of the best.
And a lot of people don't know about him in this country anymore.
You know, he was a correspondent for RT before they took that all the way down.
You know, people in this country would watch RT and the establishment didn't like it because you would get people like Abby Martin who would gain an audience, Chris Hedges that would gain an audience, you know, Jesse Ventura able to get a show over there.
Speak about Chris Hedges and how much he's done.
Oh, yeah, Chris Hedges is a wonderful anti-war journalist.
I believe he actually started out on mainstream media with either CNN or MSNBC back when they allowed contrarian voices around the time of the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.
And so he's basically given up that position, moved to RT.
RT's been removed from the air here in the United States, and he's still managed to continue publishing on his own accord and with RT internationally.
And he's cut from the same cast of people that I would put, like the Glenn Greenwalds of the world and people like that, where like, yes, he has a left-wing perspective, but he also stands against U.S. imperialism and war crimes that lead to the destruction of these third world countries.
No, absolutely.
And that's why I admire his work.
On top of that, you have ex-presidential green candidate Jill Stein out there.
Tell us what Jill's going to be talking about.
So Jill's part of a group called Doctors for Assange.
She's one of hundreds of doctors that have signed a letter talking about the psychological torture that Julian's been under, the health restrictions.
Julian had a, they call it a mini-stroke is like the official terms that they're using for it, but had a stroke back in October of 2021 during the hearings that were taking place while grown men were arguing whether or not he would kill himself in prison.
And the favorable option was, yes, he would kill himself.
So I could see how that would be a little bit stressful.
But Jill Stein has led a wonderful group of doctors to Julian's aid because she, just like him, was targeted in 2016 with the Russian propaganda, right?
She was the Putin's buddy that sat down with him to talk about international peace, right?
And Julian was the one that supposedly published the Russian DNC emails, which none of that is true.
Like none of that happened the way it's presented.
But so in a way, there's that sense of solidarity against the empire, no matter which way you want to look at it, whether it's this left-wing perspective of like, hey, we need to take a stand against this because of insert reasons of war destruction and wasteful spending, or the right-wing reasons, which are like we need to preserve free speech.
We need to make sure that war crimes can be exposed and then people be held accountable after that information is released to the public.
My man, Andrew, how could people support you?
Because other than the GoFundMe, you guys are doing a bunch of other things, but gofundme.com, hands off Assange DC.
That's one way to do it.
I'd like people to turn out.
Again, tell people where exactly you're going to be there in DC.
I know you could always use a helping hand.
And this is going to be far from the only event you're going to be doing this year.
Yep.
So we're going to be outside of the Department of Justice on October 8th from at least noon to three, if not longer.
And the goal is to surround the Department of Justice.
There's a whole group of us rowdy international Assange supporters that'll organize through riots, pandemics, threats of nuclear war.
So there's probably about 60 to 70 events planned around the world right now and a bunch across the U.S.
So I would recommend going to Candles4 Assange on Twitter.
They're the place that collects all of the different events that are going on.
But if they want to support us, we do raise one event, fundraise for one event at a time.
We don't ask for continuing donations.
We don't have like a Patreon or anything.
So you can find that information on handsoffassange.com.
That's a new website that we just got launched up.
And it also has the full list of the national and international candles for Assange events too, because we do have some on the East Coast, West Coast, some in the middle of the country.
But the biggest thing really is do what you can with the time and money you have for any issue, right?
For me, the hill I decided to die on was defending Julian Assange.
There's plenty of other hills that need plenty of other people to die on them, whether it's stopping nuclear war, whether it's ending the Fed, whether it's stopping the IRS agents that are now a military with Hollow Point rounds, right?
So there's people needed on all fronts.
So even if you're not like a crazy free speech fanatic like I am, there's always something you can stand up to defend.
And there's a whole group of people nationally and internationally that'll support you for it.
And if you're interested in putting an event up, hosting your own local event, we do have a spot on our website where you can submit your own protest and we'll get it put up there for you.
Because the goal is to get as many people acting without leaders as possible, right?
Because we know what the CIA is capable of nationally and internationally, especially with the signature reduction programs and the COINTELPRO from the 70s, signature reductions, the new big brother of that.
So we need people to step up without having to be asked, right?
That's one of the most important things is we can't expect someone to invite us to do it.
And if you're someone that needs an invitation, like this is it.
Like this is, please, like stand up for whatever it is that makes you want to fight back.
All right, brother.
Listen, I appreciate it.
I know you've been working all day doing this segment with us.
I look forward to seeing you on the 8th.
Very much so.
I'm going to let you go.
And again, support Action for Assange.
Thanks for joining me, Andrew.
Thank you so much, buddy.
You got it.
There he is.
Andrew from Action for Assange.
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