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Hey, everybody, Jason Burmes here, and we got a really special episode for you today.
We are going to be talking to Dr. Saeed Haider.
I hope I'm pronouncing the last name correctly, and you can find everything about this gentleman and how he's fighting the COVID-19 44 nightmare over at drdrsaidhaider.com.
We're going to talk to him about how he really got involved in trying to treat people at the beginning of this epidemic, pandemic, scam demic, whatever you want to call it, what he's doing to fight the authoritarianism now and how he got started in his career.
So it is my pleasure to welcome Dr. Said with us.
Before we get going, thank you so much.
Before we get going, why don't you tell my audience how you got into the medical field and what you were thinking initially when you started to see the media, I would say, I don't even want to call it propaganda because it was such a blitz that we started to see late December, early January talks of China.
By March, it was everything on our news and media.
And then, of course, New York started to lock things down mid-March.
Things changed dramatically.
You actually tried to get involved there.
Tell people your story.
Yeah, so I was working down in South Carolina at a small hospital.
And I had been doing this for like 10 years, just working as a hospital doctor.
So admitting people from the ER to the, you know, the regular medical floor or the ICU, wherever, and then following them and discharging them when they were ready to go.
And so what I had done was what's called locum tenens medicine, which is kind of like a part-time thing where you travel around to different hospitals around the country that need your help.
And so I didn't, I wasn't an employed physician.
I wasn't like on this, I was on the hospital staff, but as a temporary person.
And so I was ending up, you know, I was finishing out this small contract for a few months in South Carolina.
COVID hits.
I started seeing a few of the COVID patients in the hospital, not a whole lot.
I mean, we didn't have a lot in South Carolina at the time.
Nothing severe.
And the initial impression that I and really everyone in medicine, I think, had was that, you know, it's just another virus.
I mean, what's the big deal?
Right.
And, you know, it's just another bug.
And then, you know, I think kind of what happened looking back on it in retrospect is that, you know, Trump tried to downplay it.
And at that time, you know, with Trump derangement syndrome, it was like anything that President Trump said, you know, the mainstream media would take the opposing point of view.
Right.
And so if it's no big deal, according to him, then it must be, you know, the end of the world, according to us, right?
So maybe that was part of it.
But eventually it seemed like a really concerted effort, you know, from somewhere, you know, at some very high level, because it became like 24-7, like fear porn for two years straight, right?
Until the Ukraine war.
You know, suddenly we were able to talk about something else.
But for so long, there was like nothing else on the airwaves and people became, you know, they became like brainwashed and like the fear centers of their brain were just so stimulated that they couldn't think straight anymore.
Right.
And so I think a lot of people have had this experience where you're trying to like just tell people like some basic facts, you know, like, and they just cannot process them, right?
And they're just like, no, you must be wrong.
Well, there was this global concerted effort to put out these Bernesian-esque talking points of things like safe and effective, alone together, all these things that, you know, basically said, you know, you've got to do this or we're all going to get sick.
You could kill your grandparents.
It's not just an old person's disease.
This can cause long-term damage.
It's not the flu.
And meanwhile, while this is happening, all traditional medicines are off the table.
They basically tell you this is a novel coronavirus.
There are only certain things that we're going to treat this with.
And as you said, with the TDS and the Trump derangement syndrome, you know, he got it pretty early on.
And as soon as he used hydroxychloroquine, for instance, the mainstream media was running front page headlines that hydroxychloroquine did not work according to a Lancet study.
Now, there had been a lot of papers published in the Lancet prior to that based out of China and other nations that were coming forward that were talking about this virus in a real manner, in my opinion.
But then this Lancet paper eventually has to be retracted because their data sets were not provided.
Basically, they doctored the whole thing.
It was a false study.
You never saw one front page retraction at all.
And the fear, especially in large cities like New York, Chicago, even LA was enormous.
We already have this media set up that whatever happens there is really what's happening in the country.
And we all have to pay attention to that.
And all of a sudden, authoritarianism was on the table everywhere.
Lockdowns were on the table everywhere.
Censorship was something on social media we had never seen at that level.
So before we get there, tell my audience your story on how you tried to get involved and become, you know, one of these ER doctors on the front line.
Yeah.
So like I was saying, I was coming to the end of this short-term contract.
And so, you know, I was like, you know, I'd love to go help out on the front lines.
So I, you know, I contacted some people that were recruiting.
You know, they were just like, they were flooding us with emails.
Everyone in the country, like every physician in the country, every nurse in the country was being flooded with these emails, like begging us to go to New York or to Chicago or somewhere on the front lines.
So I was like, sure, I'm up for it.
They were offering very high rates, you know, hourly rates, like double, you know, what people usually make.
And so, you know, I literally had a ticket for like a Sunday night to fly out.
Like I was just finishing up in this hospital and I was going to fly straight to New York.
And I was just, you know, I'm just going to work 24-7 for the next three months, you know, helping these people out.
And they called me and canceled, right?
Like something like six hours before my flight.
They were like, never mind, we don't need you.
And then the shocking thing was that like for the next year and a half, there were like no jobs, right?
Like just no, none of that work that I've been doing for 10 years was available.
And so like I knew right away that this thing was being way overblown in the media, right?
I mean, you didn't have to see nurses dancing on TikTok to understand it when you're a physician who suddenly has no job, right?
There's just no work available.
No one was going to the hospitals, right?
And no one went to the hospitals for like a year for anything.
People were just dying at home, right?
Because they were so afraid of this basically just souped up flu bug that they wouldn't go in for a heart attack or a stroke or anything for any reason at all.
They were just, you know, steering clear.
And so the hospitals were empty, right?
They were building all these field hospitals.
And if people remember, they were sending like the army ships, you know, to New York, you know, with a thousand beds on them.
You know, Chicago had like a thousand bed field hospital being built.
Just ridiculous things, right?
And this was all driven by this kind of fear-mongering and these projections, right?
That were just like utterly ridiculous projections that said, 4 million people would die in this country.
That's what they were putting out at that point.
Yeah, and you know, around the world, they were just predicting, like you know, the end of the world.
Um, and so, looking back on it um, you know all of this really, it was like, you know, we just shot ourselves in the foot over and over again.
Right, we lockdowns completely decimated our you know, our economy.
They just destroyed mom and pop businesses, mid-sized businesses, and no wonder, you know, Facebook and Amazon and Google and Walmart were all in favor of them because it benefited them tremendously right like, their bottom lines just got stronger.
They they, you know, benefited to the tune of billions and billions of dollars.
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You know the people who own those companies.
Um, they doubled their net worth, right within two years.
So um, you know that this is really what we're looking at is a fascist system right in this country.
It's not a republic or a democracy or whatever people want to believe.
It is.
It's corporate takeover of our government.
And you know the the processes in this country.
The FDA is embedded with big Pharma.
The mainstream media is almost entirely funded by Pfizer and other big pharmaceutical companies um, and so when you see, I mean, if you're just like a reasonable person who has like a little bit of common sense and some understanding of human nature, just basic understanding of the way the world works, you can understand why things happen the way they did.
I mean, it's not a mystery right, it's just follow the money okay um, and and Fauci has been kind of working this way for the last 20 years.
I mean, it's nothing new as, as you know, Rfk Jr pointed out in his book on you know, the real Anthony Fauci, I mean, anyone who doesn't understand the last two years, just go read that book and you'll understand it.
I mean it's kind of like a repeat of what he did with the Hiv, um epidemic and um, and so that the the only thing i'm really worried about at this point is the response to these kind of things.
Right, and so, even though monkeypox is an std and even though, like no one except for gay men, you know should be worried about it right now, what if right, it kind of transitions into like a regular monkeypox that spreads amongst the community and our government decides that this is the next thing that we're going to use to subtract people's autonomy and take away their power and their freedoms and further enslave them, especially going into the the winter with, you know, these upcoming midterm elections um,
it just seems like we've been through this before right um, and and the interesting thing about monkeypox is there's evidence that it's been also bioengineered right, and you look at it, at the data um, for its genetic code um, it's a very slow mutating virus.
It should not have collected so many genetic changes in its sequence since the last known variant in, you know, in Africa um so, so that itself is kind of concerning.
Then there's these other kind of weird aspects of this epidemic.
You know, it's kind of like that even the onset of it was seemed to have been predicted by this tabletop exercise.
Same with covet, right, there was a tabletop exercise where governments kind of decided, or NGOS, you know, non-governmental organizations, got together and were like what should we do if there's a covet pandemic?
And the same thing happened with monkeypox over a year ago um, where they seem to have predicted the outbreak Outbreak in mid-May of 2022 for that tabletop simulation exercise.
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And for those that don't know, when we're talking about coronavirus, you're probably referring to the Event 201 exercise that took place in October just prior to this outbreak, where you had a novel coronavirus, not from a bat, not from China, this time from South America and a pig.
It's always an animal.
We can't ever talk about biolabs and bio-warfare, even though all, not some, all of the evidence suggested that COVID-19 or the iterated variations of it were cooked up in a lab.
But at the same time, all this fear and propaganda, they're able to create a system where you don't necessarily have to have COVID-19.
You can have the regular flu.
You can probably have a cold because they told us, and when I say they, I'm talking about the authoritative sources.
I'm talking about the World Health Organization that the flu completely disappeared from the northern and southern hemisphere for the first time ever on the planet.
And for those that doubt me, let's just read this excerpt from NPR.
During the 2019-2020 flu season, some 400,000 people were hospitalized for the flu alone with 22,000 deaths.
Now, according to the CDC, again, in February of 2021, they had only had 165 flu-related hospitalizations, not 165,000, which would already cut it by over half and be questionable.
We're talking about 165.
Now, by their own numbers today, okay, and anybody can look this up, we have still lost the flu by over half, possibly more than that.
They're saying flu hospitalizations range from 76,000, this is CDC's own numbers, to 150,000.
So what do you say to those today that are still kind of caught up in this, still wearing the masks, still worried about COVID after their third and fourth boosters now, at their third and fourth shots?
What do you say to those people when they can't comprehend that this virus wasn't just one thing?
And then you have other people that say it didn't exist at all.
You know, how do you toe that line that, wait, no, this is real, but they've manipulated the numbers and they continue to do so and they continue to fear monger.
And then on top of that, they don't allow actual treatments.
How do you convey that to people?
It's very difficult unless people are already primed to understand it, unfortunately.
I mean, it's kind of like a red pilling process, right?
And I mean, the people that come to me, they already kind of get it, most of them.
And then there's some people who are just like, you know, well, you know, let's just have, you know, some ivermectin just in case.
And, you know, the people who don't think it even exists, you know, they don't come to me.
And actually, they, they oftentimes seem to do fine, you know, because a lot of this has to do with just fear impacting your immune system.
So, you know, there were people who were like 20 years old who came to me and they're like, you know, sending me pictures of like gas masks that you would expect to see at like Hiroshima or something, right?
Like the giant things with like, you know, and I was like, are you crazy?
I mean, you don't need that to go to the grocery store.
You know, you're at no risk of this.
And they were just so frightened.
They just couldn't think straight anymore, right?
And so parents coming to me saying, you know, I have like a four-year-old, five-year-old who's getting sick.
You know, what should I do?
And I'm like, well, nothing really, but if you must, you know, here's some ivermectin, you know, if it'll make you feel better.
And so, you know, just like sometimes a lot of the people who are coming to me, they were kind of like getting medications just to like relieve their anxiety, right?
And, you know, I was like, well, you know, like, sure, there's some risk of long COVID.
There's some risk, you know, that, you know, there's a minuscule risk for most people that you'll end up hospitalized or dead, you know, unless you're 85 or something, right?
Most deaths were in like the 80s in this country.
And so I was trying to just be a voice of reason for people, but it's very difficult.
I mean, you just can't reason with people when they're frightened out of their minds, right?
So I don't know what to say.
You know, so let's talk about that fear and anxiety because I've watched a couple of your other interviews and you talking about fluvoxamine, right?
Now, obviously, ivermectin, budesinide, those are more traditional, over-the-counter, generic drugs that are extremely cheap.
Fluvoxamine, however, is an SSRI.
And I have been adamantly opposed to SSRIs in most cases.
However, when I heard you discuss it, you basically said as a short-term medicine, this helps relieve some of the anxiety that goes along with the fear that we've all kind of absorbed via this COVID-19 44 nightmare.
Is that essentially how that drug actually works in this case?
No.
So fluvoxamine actually has like antiviral effects and anti-inflammatory effects.
So that's the main reason to use it for COVID.
You know, I don't think you're going to develop the anti-anxiety effect in 95% of people within two weeks, right?
So it takes usually four to six weeks to develop like a anti-anxiety and anti-depression kind of effect from SSRIs.
And I agree with you.
I hate SSRIs.
You know, I was very kind of like opposed to even the thought of fluvoxamine, right?
Like the first person who brought it up to me for COVID was actually a patient.
She was like, have you seen the research?
And I was just like, I hate SSRIs.
I don't even want to look at it.
And then Steve Kirsch came to me.
He was the one who kind of, you know, paid for some of the studies and he was like a big proponent of it.
He was trying to get doctors to use it.
And so he explained to me, you know, this thing is actually working specifically against COVID-19 very, very well.
And it was also, you know, off-label and very cheap.
And so it's got very, very low risk profile if you're using it just for two weeks for COVID.
And at that point in time, you know, it was a matter of like how high is your risk for COVID, right?
And in the very beginning, ivermectin alone was working really well, right?
But my personal experience was, you know, in the first 20 people, one of them got hospitalized.
And I don't know if it was just like in the cards that I would see that hospitalization very early on or not.
But once I added fluvoxamine to ivermectin, I didn't see another hospitalization in the next like thousand people or more.
And so for me, it was just like, oh, well, maybe this is a thing.
Maybe this is important to add to the protocol.
And so I was one, I was probably the first person to really roll it out nationwide, like, hey, let's try fluvoxamine, you know, in case you're high risk, specifically, right?
And or in a state where it's almost impossible to get ivermectin, which, you know, was true in places like New York.
For instance, my brother and his wife came down with it very late, you know, earlier this year.
It was almost impossible.
In fact, it was impossible.
No doctor would prescribe it.
I eventually had to go to my friend, Dr. Richard Bartlett, for them even to get that.
But one of the things that the frontline doctors were able to do was to get them the fluvoxamine.
However, because you're in New York, you had to wait two weeks.
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And it's like, wait, we're sick now.
I mean, the whole system was set up on this insanity level where we had this virus, but we weren't allowed to even talk about our innate immune systems.
And everybody acted like, oh, well, you know, your immunity doesn't matter.
You don't really have to worry about that.
Go to McDonald's.
Burger King's open.
You can eat these type of foods.
That can be open.
But at the same time, we're going to tell you that maybe remdesivir works if you're in really bad shape, but ivermectin is horse paste.
We don't want to talk about any of the steroids at all.
We didn't want to talk about those.
We didn't even want to talk about nitric oxide, which was showing that if they were using it on an inhaler level, it was also opening up the lungs, allowing people to breathe.
This was a respiratory illness.
Couldn't say any of those things.
You'd be banned from social media.
And some doctors, you know, were losing their licenses and ending up in court.
Yeah, the biggest, I think, crime, one of the biggest crimes.
I mean, there's just so many, but one of the biggest was not talking more about vitamin D, right?
And, you know, the CDC or Fauci or somebody at the highest level could have been like, you know, everyone should just take 5,000 international units of vitamin D a day, or if you get sick, take like 100,000 or 50,000, whatever, or at least at a bare minimum, go and get your vitamin D tested and see if you're normal or not, right?
And if you're not, then supplement to get to normal.
But a lot of the things that we did, you know, harmed our immune system.
So, you know, you know, closing down churches, for example, very bad for the immune system.
I mean, you know, social isolation, very bad for the immune system, lack of sunlight, you know, lack of vitamin D exposure.
You know, these things are all kind of net negatives for the immune response.
One of the things that people really don't appreciate enough is how much social connection, how important that is for the immune system.
It's actually one of the most powerful things for your immunity is to just have like healthy, good social connections like you would find in like a church community or, you know, going to Sunday, you know, the sermon.
So, so a lot of the things that we did were just terrible mistakes, right?
It got people to be afraid of each other, afraid of being within six feet of each other, right?
Which was just like an utterly ridiculous number of feet, right?
And by the way, for that, that's imagination land.
If you went to Singapore, for instance, it wasn't six feet, it was three feet.
But hey, we had the DARPA robot dogs out in the parks that were scanning people and telling them to distance.
So as long as you have the robot dogs to police and govern you, we can cut that six feet back to three.
And to speak to the fact that you talked about how human beings crave contact with other human beings, it's part of humanity.
They try to destroy everything about humanity and social interactions.
You talk about church.
What about families that were broken up?
What about the positive?
You know, my good friend was unable to go see his mother.
They had to, she had no idea what was going on.
She was in a home at the time.
They're talking to each other through plexiglass.
She's crying her eyes out.
That's not good for anybody.
The fact that we all had masks on our face and we're trying to communicate with one another, that is disturbing, disgusting, especially at a younger level where you're trying to learn the cues of people's expressions.
So you innately have this other iteration of what's going on around you.
All of that was taken away and it was normalized everywhere.
Talk about the fear porn in the media.
It became commonplace that people in commercials, even when they weren't talking about COVID-19, were wearing these things.
I continue to see people wearing these things in advertisements as if they're coming back.
And even in large-scale dramas such as Westworld and others on HBO, where the future seems to have normalized these masks for the slave class.
And that's us, folks.
I just want everybody to know: it doesn't matter if you're a doctor like Mr. Hayter here, or you're just a podcaster like Jason Burmes, across the board, they look at us like the peasant class.
So, how do we fight back?
How do we prepare?
Like you said, monkeypox doesn't seem like it's really a threat, but you never know what these people are going to do.
You know, I've been covering this really since the swine flu of over a decade ago, where WHO reached pandemic level six.
And back then, they were floating around the idea of multiple shots for that virus.
They didn't have the infrastructure built in where everybody had a cell phone, where everybody was on social media, where they were able to control people.
And that kind of fell by the wayside.
I often look at that kind of as a beta test for what we saw here.
But is this a beta test now for something even bigger now that all this has been normalized?
Yeah, I think it is.
And, you know, there's a new normal that you find in places like Indonesia, the Philippines.
I mean, I know some people who work for me are, you know, as contractors are in Indonesia and the Philippines.
And over there, you like literally the entire society had to be, you know, vaccinated.
Otherwise, you could not participate in like society anymore.
So like a lot of people were very anti-vaccine, and yet they just had to get vaccinated to go to the grocery store or to like go anywhere, right?
Like they could not leave their house without showing their phone and showing that they had a vaccine done.
And so we haven't gotten to that point in the US.
Thank God.
But like that could be the next step where like maybe you release smallpox or something, right?
Maybe it's not monkeypox.
Maybe it's something that really is deadly, right?
Like it has an actual 30% death rate, right?
Instead of a 0.1% or something, 0.01% death rate like it is with, you know, monkeypox, there's like 13 deaths out of 47,000 people.
And who knows?
I mean, if really monkeypox killed them or if they had a heart attack or something, right?
We don't know.
And so, you know, COVID itself was had a very, very low death rate.
And look at what they were able to accomplish with COVID in terms of taking away our freedoms.
If we got a real bioweapon that was like actually quite, you know, deadly, we would be lining up to give away, give away our freedoms.
Okay.
I can tell you that.
That's what I understand now about human nature is that people don't really value their freedoms, right?
They really value their life, right?
I mean, that's the thing you value most of all is staying alive.
And if you have to give away all your freedom to stay alive, you will.
Okay.
We will do that.
You just look at what people were willing to give up during COVID or during the 9-11 thing, the war on terror, the war on white people now.
I mean, like all these wars that we have, they are ways that the government can take away freedoms from the population.
And it's just going to get worse.
It's not going to get better.
Our economy is in shambles and things are just getting worse.
And elites are just afraid of the pitchforks coming out, right?
They're afraid of human beings in great numbers joining together.
And so a lot of the stuff that we see happening in the world today is about creating division, right?
It's not really about creating unity, right?
It never is.
It's about creating splinter groups.
So, you know, going from an America where everyone was proud to be an American, now it's like I'm proud to be like, you know, a wolf girl or something or like a, you know, trans or something, right?
Like I have this kind of, you know, little splinter group that I'm a part of, you know, and everyone else is different from me.
So there's like 100 genders, you know, that you can be.
Which now the World Health Organization and the United Nations are endorsing.
They have now announced that there are multiple genders due to new science.
There is no new science.
There are new, no new scientific research.
And, you know, you talked about this trans thing.
As soon as I saw them going with this non-binary zeros and ones, I often talk about this.
And again, and how inhumane everything was.
This is part of that transhumanist movement.
Forget about the mRNA, which we'll get to, or the vector-based shots and the different types of nanotechnology, bio-nanotechnology they used in these shots and called them vaccines.
We'll get to that in a moment.
But just everything about this screamed transhumanism in the sense, oh, no, don't worry, you're going to go to telework.
And oh, no, don't worry, you're going to go to telelearning.
And oh, don't worry, in Australia, we actually have Sophie, or I'm sorry, Grace, which is Sophia the robot's cousin, dealing with COVID patients.
And we're going to have more and more of this automation and robotization in the medical and educational fields.
Meanwhile, at the same time, in, I believe it's in Japan, it might be in China, they have AI news reporters.
They literally have AI news reporters.
Everything is moving to this digital control.
And a lot of people don't see that aspect of it, but you seem to see that aspect of it.
You seem to see that correlation with the fear of 9-11.
And you even mentioned a release of a bigger bioweapon.
Some people won't go there.
The two theories are you either have to believe it's zoological and it came from nature or somehow it leaked.
In the mainstream press, you're not allowed to even postulate that this was intentionally released on a global populace and seeded for control.
Why is that?
Yeah, that's interesting, right?
Like there are, you know, some very plausible theories that haven't gotten a lot of airtime, right?
So Ron Uns, I don't know if you're aware of his website, but uns.com.
You know, he has probably one of the most compelling arguments that it was really the U.S. deep state that was trying to attack China initially, at least.
It wasn't really a lab leak, but it was, you know, taken, it was during the Wuhan military games that it was taken over there and released in China.
And the Chinese government officials there actually accused the United States of doing that.
And there was not barely any press in this country that covered that.
Continue.
Yeah, there were a couple of news reports where, you know, he mentioned this in his articles that like, you know, on mainstream media, actually, there was this one, you know, NBC news report or something saying that we warned our allies, like the Israelis and other people about this outbreak in China.
And so we knew about it like months before even the Chinese knew about it.
And this was documented a couple of times.
So somebody, you know, at the Department of Defense was aware of what was going on.
And so it's plausible.
You know, maybe we tried, you know, first China got it and then Iran, you know, the Iranian parliament, actually, a lot of them died, right?
Two kind of like enemies of the U.S. first to be hit.
But then from there, it becomes even stranger, right?
Because then it suddenly spreads to hundreds of countries almost overnight, right?
Which is unusual.
The profile of any type of coronavirus or flu virus in the past, and people don't seem to understand that either.
This idea of a global pandemic seemed to be manufactured in the sense we have never historically seen that, even with all the integration, all the air travel, and all the globalism in the world.
The people didn't get that.
They fell for it.
Yeah, exactly.
So the thing I guess people don't understand is that you have to have like a super spreader event.
And so like you can't have 100 super spreader events all of a sudden, right?
So either it's seeded from places.
And there was one kind of analysis of this where it was like, well, there's bioweapons labs, thousands of U.S. bioweapons labs all over the world.
And maybe kind of like the epicenter of COVID infections were those bioweapon labs.
So I guess you could say, okay, perhaps we were seeding it.
The other possibility, which may be actually more likely, is that it was just a case demic, right?
It was like PCR testing based pandemic, right?
It's like a fake pandemic that we just created with PCR testing that had a certain extremely high cycle count.
I mean, you know, it's like 47 or 50 or something when it should have been like 20 or 25, right?
To be, you know, reasonable.
And so if there's a high cycle count, you have a much higher, you know, false positive rate for cases.
And suddenly, if you test a billion people, you have, you know, 100 million cases if there's a 10% false positive rate.
And so like the tests were, you know, we didn't have any standard for testing, right?
There was no like what is going to define, qualify as a case.
I mean, sure, I mean, obviously PCR testing can create cases out of nothing.
They can just make, you know, completely false positives.
But the way to use a PCR test is you have a certain clinical situation where this person has specific symptoms that are most likely COVID, right?
They're not a flu.
They're not a cold.
They're probably COVID.
Maybe they have taste, also taste and smell, for example, or something typical, right?
It's certainly not a sinus infection.
It's not a pneumonia or something.
This is, you know, not bacterial pneumonia.
We think it's COVID.
The PCR test confirms it, right?
That's the way to use a PCR test, or really any test, right?
There's there's just, you know, you don't test the wide population, the general population with no symptoms, right?
With really any test, right?
This is the way all testing works in medicine.
You have to have some suspicion that the person has the thing in order to test them.
Otherwise, the false positive rate skyrockets.
When you're just testing random people, you know, you have a much higher false positive rate than if you're testing people based on certain symptoms that are like, okay, a criteria, this person likely has it because they met a person who had it and then they got it and they have the typical symptoms.
Then your positive test is far more likely to be a true positive.
So anyway, you know, there's two possibilities here.
One is that it was just spread everywhere.
And the other is that like testing suddenly went widespread and we had hundreds of millions of billions of tests around the world overnight and created this out of nothing.
And that's actually happened in the last 30 years where you literally had episodes of these like pandemics that in retrospect, you go back and you're like, well, actually, there was no pandemic at all.
It was just, you know, the testing, you know, created this illusion of a pandemic because of positive tests.
So that's a possibility.
Like you said, I mean, you're going to die every year of something, right?
There are a certain number of people who will die of some kind of flu-like illness.
And what most people don't realize is you go back and you see the last 10, 20 years of flu deaths, they're actually even called flu-like illnesses, okay?
And, you know, the CDC doesn't even call them flu.
They call them flu-like illnesses.
So the flu-like illness, you know, for the last couple of years, you know, has been defined as COVID.
And certainly every year you're going to have about the same number of flu-like illnesses and about the same number of deaths.
Maybe we pulled in a few extra deaths.
You know, people died a few, you know, two or three years earlier than they would have in the last couple of years.
You'll probably see less deaths in the elderly, you know, for a year or two, unless they were vaccinated.
So we're constantly kind of muddying the water with what we're doing, right?
And so introducing these shots into the population is causing its own problems.
I mean, they themselves may be killing people.
Those shots themselves may be harming people's immune systems.
Certainly there's evidence of vaccine acquired immunodeficiencies.
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You know, I want to get to that in a moment.
You know, that's the next thing I kind of want to cover is with these shots, mRNA, them outright telling you there were going to be multiple.
But to your point, for instance, that this may have been a multitude of things.
I'm from New York.
You know, I ended up moving during this whole thing and I got what I believed to be COVID in November prior to it even supposedly being in the United States.
How do I know that?
I couldn't taste or smell for like three days and I'd never had that happen with any other illness.
And at the same time, I just turned 40 and my lung capacity didn't seem to be there.
And I'm just thinking, well, Jason, you're getting older.
I didn't give much thought to the taste and smell because it came back after a few days.
But then as things progressed and I looked at what happened to me and how long I had these lung issues, which was actually over a few months, you know, and then I had some other health issues.
I kind of put things together and wait a minute.
We had a really bad flu season in 2019, 2020.
They also don't talk about that.
So I agree with you that, number one, you had misdiagnosis.
Number two, you had fear.
And number three, you probably had a seeded bioweapon.
But then let's get into the shots because I think it's important for people to note that by no means were any of these shots traditional in that they had an attenuated version of the virus that would then give you some kind of immunity after getting the shot.
And instead, you actually did have people kind of at the top warning us, but I call it whispered history.
It certainly wasn't amplified by the mainstream media.
Doctors say CDC should warn people the side effects from COVID vaccines won't be a walk in the park.
Now, this is November 25th, 2020.
This is quoting Dr. Sandra Freihoffer of the American Medical Association.
And in this article, they essentially tell you you're going to get all the symptoms of COVID, perhaps after the first shot, but then the second shot might be worse.
And by the way, we're not going to grant you any immunity whatsoever.
We don't know if this stops transmission.
Bill Gates was on television in April of 2020, about a month after things started to heat up, telling you you were going to have to at least take two to three shots.
We played those clips many times and then either annually or biannually get boosters.
He talked about these being first-generation mRNA.
Moderna itself had partnered with DARPA all the way back in 2013 for their mRNA strategic collaboration along with AstraZeneca, along with Merck, and along with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, among others.
Meanwhile, we end up getting this report that a 2016 mRNA drug developed for cancer by Moderna and DARPA together, they put this patent out about two and a half years after the partnership, has a 12-sequence DNA nucleotide to the virus itself, which is, you know, one in trillions of a possibility.
So when you bring these things up, and I tried to warn people from the very beginning that they're telling you this doesn't stop transmission, it doesn't stop infection.
They're trying to say it's going to lower the death rate.
Well, the death rate is already severely low.
Even at the time, I think the World Health Organization's numbers were something at 0.6%, which again seemed inflated.
So I'm saying to people, wait a minute, you got a fraction of 1% whether you're going to survive.
And now you're going to take multiple shots so that fraction of 1% can be less than that fraction of 1% survival.
It made no sense, but when you're just battered with safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective, alone together, alone together.
And then on the not only the television, but your phone, your operating system on your phone with all these new COVID restrictions and the radio, it was impossible to get away from it.
So how did you try to talk to people in your practice when they would bring up the shot?
What would you say to them?
Yeah, so what I would say is I compiled this list of alternative media sources around the vaccine.
And I just said, you know, you got to educate yourself, right?
Okay, here's what the CDC and the FDA say, you know, because I just had to tell them.
And then here's what Robert Malone is saying.
Here's what Peter McCullough is saying.
These prominent people, Pierre Corey, and once he got on board with that as well.
Go and read.
And these highly credentialed scientists, what they have to say about these shots.
Luke Montagnier, the Nobel Prize winner who discovered the HIV virus.
So go and read what these other people have to say, right?
And by the way, Dr. Luke was one of the very few people that said that there was no doubt that this was a man-made virus and that there were sequences of HIV inside.
I mean, once I saw that there was HIV inside the virus, I got extremely concerned.
I got even more concerned when even Forbes in October of 2020 warned that these quote unquote vaccines, which are not vaccines, could increase your risk of HIV infection.
Again, folks, October 2020 mainstream articles.
And then all of a sudden, you had these tests out in Australia.
where they were taking one of these experimental shots and they had a multitude of people who had taken those shots turning up HIV positive, which they said later were false positives.
But as you mentioned previously, all of a sudden you have this new wave of supposed vaccine acquired immune deficiency syndrome or VADE.
Speak to that.
Yeah, so, you know, the most concerning data I saw was a case series, a physician in Florida, who is keeping records.
She's testing everyone in her practice who comes in with long COVID or vaccine injuries for immunoglobulin levels and CD4 and CD8 T cell counts.
And so just to give people some background, you know, immunoglobulins are these proteins that are, you know, part of a healthy immune system.
They're used to, you know, they're basically the antibodies, right, in your body.
And so those levels should be at a certain like normal level in most people.
And then the CD4 and CD8 T cells, these are, you know, cells that are also part of your immune system.
And they are like, they're really the only time we see them very, very low is in AIDS patients, like full-blown AIDS.
Like you just don't see them low otherwise at very, very low levels outside of vaccine acquired immunodeficiency.
And so what she was finding was that up to 30% of people who coming in with a vaccine injury, some kind of vaccine injury syndrome, up to 30, 40% of them had, you know, these signs of low immunoglobulins, you know, low antibody levels and low CD4 and CD8 T cells, things that you would really only expect to see in a full-blown AIDS patient, which is quite concerning because we don't know, is that going to wear off?
Is it going to stay there forever?
Is it going to get worse?
Or is a larger percentage of the people who have been vaccinated going to end up with that problem?
You know, if your immune system is trashed the way it is in these people, right, with very low CD4, CD8 cells, low immunoglobulin levels, if your immune system is not working, it's not just like colds and coughs and flus that you're at risk of.
It's cancers, it's heart disease.
It's like really any illness, any chronic disease, right?
So AIDS patients, there's many, many diseases that you see in them, right?
You see tuberculosis, you see different kinds of leukemia, you see all kinds of things, right?
That's because their immune system is not working and it's not able to kill off like a cancer cell when it should.
It's not able to kill TB.
It's not able to kill these things that are just normally in the environment, fungal things, you know, candida and stuff.
And so this is very concerning.
You know, it's not just, you know, ADE, which was one concern that people would have antibody-dependent enhancement, like the antibodies that they got from the shots to fight off COVID would themselves create a worse kind of inflammation, right?
Which is what was seen in all the animal trials of COVID vaccines, you know, in the last 20 years.
Every time we tried to develop a coronavirus vaccine, it killed all the animals, all the test animals.
Not the first time they got the infection, but sometimes the third or the fourth time, right?
So it takes some time sometimes for the immune system to have that kind of overreaction that you don't want and to kill the animal.
So this is why Luc Montenier and others were warning that maybe half or more, maybe everyone who takes these shots could be dead within a couple of years, you know, based on that ADE thing.
But this is even, you know, that's one concern, which is still a valid concern and still something that we may be seeing in the next six months, next year.
And we are having some indications that people who've been vaccinated are now at higher risk of dying from COVID, right?
So, BA4, BA5, these variants are very benign for most people, right?
Not so much as like you're just going to get the sniffles.
I mean, you might have muscle aches, pains.
It might be quite uncomfortable, but you don't want to hospitalize or die unless you've been vaccinated now.
It's actually increasing the likelihood.
And so, that's one of the signs of ADE, but also it could just be, you know, this vaccine-acquired immunodeficiency.
So, it's one or the other or both could be developing.
And this is just a snapshot in time.
Where is this going to be in a year, two years, 10 years?
What's going to happen to these people?
We don't know because it was just a massive experiment on 5 billion people all over the world, you know, many of them who felt utterly forced to get this thing to keep their jobs.
And a lot of them taking different cocktails, different shots, different technologies.
I've always argued, you know, wait three to five years after these shots, and then let's see what the problems are and let's see what the overall death rate is.
Because one of the things that we were promised with these shots is we were going to have, again, less hospitalization and less death.
But if you look over at the overall death numbers from 2019 to 2020 into 2020 to 2021, somehow more people died this year in the United States.
Now, how is that possible if these shots are working?
And you see these people that have cognitive dissidents, they're doing mental jumping jacks, saying things like, well, the depression and the suicide and the extra fentanyl and heroin overdoses.
And unfortunately, when you look at those numbers, that can't really constitute for the amount of deaths that we saw increased.
Meanwhile, you have health officials that are saying Alzheimer's and dementia are about to go through the roof by 2040, which is also concerning.
I've said to people, Look, you look at this evidence, there certainly seems to be a ton of adverse reactions.
They call it an experiment, but to me, it's only an experiment on this large-scale level.
Because again, the Defense Department, DARPA has been involved a long time.
Moderna has been testing this technology for a long time.
And now Moderna is suing, I believe it's Pfizer and Johnson Johnson for patents on this.
That should let people know right away.
It was never about your health, and they do not give a flying flip about you whatsoever.
The concern is profit and control.
So, how do we take a step back and try to push back against this techno-medical fascistic system of mandating these types of, and I use this term very loosely, medicines on people?
It really harkens back to a new digital age of the Nazis and their Department of Health and hygiene.
No?
Yeah, I think it really does, unfortunately.
I mean, the FTA is utterly broken, right?
We have to scrap the FDA and scrap the CDC.
You know, I'm glad that Fauci is set to retire supposedly in December of this year, but who's going to replace him, right?
I mean, is it just going to be the same system under a different name?
And that's what's important.
You know, we need to scrap these agencies and start over.
And that's really the only way we can fix it is to just have a fresh start and get the money, you know, the pharmaceutical company money out of our government and out of the FDA.
It should be a real watchdog, right?
And not just like another department of big pharma, which is what it is right now, since it's partly funded by big pharma.
And they co-develop drugs.
And the people at the FDA, like Fauci and his deputies, they benefit from those drugs.
They benefit from the royalties on those drugs that they shift over to big pharma.
They take taxpayer money and they spend almost $10 billion a year developing drugs and then hand them over to big pharma to market them and sell them and get the benefits of them.
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And then the American people are cut out of the equation.
The taxpayers don't significantly benefit.
It's just, it's extremely corrupt at the highest levels.
And the only way to solve this is for us to come together and set aside our minor differences, right?
Like we got to realize what's really important at the end of the day.
Like what do we all really care about, right?
Like we want to be healthy.
We want to be happy.
We want to be able to make enough money to take care of ourselves and our children and have a safe place to raise them, right?
I mean, that's the stuff that really matters.
I mean, it matters far less whether you're like Democrat or Republican or you believe in this candidate or that candidate or you believe in this religion or that religion or whatever, right?
All of these things are just means of sowing dissension amongst the population so that they can't stand up with one voice and demand what they really, you know, what the most important things are for them.
Right.
And so this has been very, you know, well done, unfortunately, in the world today, creating extreme levels of discord, right?
And I'm not saying that like you have to like forget your differences, but like you have to be able to work with people who have different belief systems than you do.
Otherwise, the elites are going to continue to hold us down, right?
There's just no two ways about it.
Like we have to unite.
If we act as a united people, if the American people can unite under a common goal of any common goal, they will get what they want, right?
There's like there, you can't, there are not enough guns on planet Earth.
There are not enough bombs to hold down the will of the people if it's united.
And so I don't know how to achieve that, but that's really the only solution we have.
And, you know, the depopulation agenda, it's this small window of time before they have like Terminator robots and killer swarms of flying robots that can hold down billions of people.
And they're on the verge of that, by the way.
I often talk about that transition that's very open.
And people have to understand they openly talk about two different types of code words.
Sustainability, that means your standard of living is actually going to plummet, has nothing to do about the sustainable planet other than you need to go because you're using too much carbon.
In reality, you're just a challenge to what you call the elite.
There's nothing elite about them.
They're a predator class and they're disgusting.
And then on top of that, they have productivity improvement.
And that's the ever more automation and robotization of society where they plan to replace the vast majority of us openly in white papers that go beyond the UN, that go beyond the Club of Rome into even NASA documentation.
And I've covered this at length.
You know, you mentioned Luke Montier.
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And one of the things I really liked about him is when he was discussing all forms of disease and all of these things, he said, the most important thing you have to fight these in every single case is a strong immune system.
And one of the things that you do on your site is that you offer products that are, you know, pretty well known in conjunction with one another to improve your health and immune system.
Speak to that.
Yeah.
So, I mean, the most powerful things you can do to improve your immune system are really behavioral changes, right?
Lifestyle changes.
I mean, there's nothing that is as powerful as like exercise or, you know, close personal relationships or sunlight, right?
There's nothing that's, there's nothing you can put into a pill that's as strong as that.
After you get those things in order, then there are supplements.
There's vitamins and things that you can get at mygoto stack.com.
That's our supplement brand.
And we've got like all the best things in, as concentrated as you can get them into single pills where possible.
And we have something even for monkeypox or smallpox, right?
It's from an American Indian remedy, Saracenia purperia, just in case that becomes more than an STD.
So those are things that people should have on hand, some supplements, some medications, but you really got to square away your diet and your lifestyle first.
Get rid of the excess weight.
Get outside, get some sun.
Don't be afraid of the sun the way people have been afraid of the sun the last 50 years.
As long as you don't burn, you're fine.
Okay.
You're not going to get skin cancer.
I mean, it may actually be the sunscreen that's giving you skin cancer.
You know, certainly no one should burn themselves, but get enough sun every day that you don't burn yourself up to that limit.
Exercise a little bit.
I mean, exercise, if it was a pill, it would wipe out all other pharmaceutical pills, right?
I mean, it's just like a wonder drug of its own.
Good sleep, you know, people oftentimes miss that.
So yeah, the supplements are there.
They are supplemental, right?
They are not the primary thing that you need to do.
And it's, you know, some people are just not willing to change their lifestyle.
If you're one of those people, you know, you should certainly have the supplements and the medications on hand just in case.
If you're somebody who's really, you know, devoted to lifestyle change, you almost probably don't need anything, right?
You just need to make sure that you're getting the nutrients that you require from sunlight and from your food.
And occasionally you do need to supplement in the modern world just because the soil has been so depleted by overfarming, right?
So it's almost impossible to get enough magnesium or selenium or vitamin K2 from most even healthy diets today.
So there are some things that almost anyone probably needs to have in their medicine cabinet.
You can get things from food, but sometimes it's a little bit inconvenient, a little bit difficult.
That's why we developed my GoToStack.
So we're coming up on an hour.
What would you like to leave my audience with?
And then tell people how they can support you.
Yeah.
So the website, MyGoToDoc that we have, I think one of the best things about it is that you can go and get free medical answers from somebody who's going to tell you the truth, right?
Who's going to give you the behind the scenes, real facts.
And so there are other medical answers websites out there, but you don't get connected to somebody who really knows what's going on and somebody who's had this experience of the last two years treating people with off-label drugs and who understands the situation.
So that's something that's freely available at my GoToDoc.
You can register for free.
You can click this little checkbox saying, I don't want to pay, I just want to ask questions or something.
Once you get into the medical, the patient portal, you can send us medical questions and me and my staff answer them without any charge.
So that's a really great resource for people that they should have.
You should just register and just be a part of the practice just in case you need to ask a question or just in case you need a medication.
I mean, you don't have to get one, but if you need it, that that facility is available.
And I would say, you know, with bioweapons, never underestimate them, right?
So I underestimated COVID initially.
I mean, certainly it's not what it was cracked up to be, but the long COVID aspect is a bigger problem than it's really been made out to be.
And I mean, there's a lot of people who are right about almost everything except for long COVID.
They're like, oh, it doesn't exist.
You know, there's just something that people are imagining.
I mean, I had it.
It's a real thing.
I believe it as well.
And, you know, it was so hard to even see a doctor past that.
You talk about how people weren't going.
Believe me, man, I was trying to go and it wasn't for COVID because that's not what I thought I had because it was this long-term thing and it was never diagnosed properly.
And I absolutely believe when you're dealing with things that come out of a live or out of a lab, be prepared for surprises.
Be prepared for people within the medical institution, even with the best of intentions, to make mistakes.
Because again, when you're talking about bio-nanotech, all cards are on the table.
Exactly.
And so not just COVID and long COVID, but also vaccine injuries.
I mean, it's a real big problem.
So a lot of my practice now is treating people who have long COVID or vaccine injuries.
And then the other part of it is this, you know, what's happening now in the world is that, you know, we're depopulating regardless of, you know, bioweapons or not.
We're depopulating just because of this post kind of the industry, the rapid industrialization around the world led to this population boom.
And now we're going through a population bust.
We're just not having babies anymore the way we did on farms, right?
So in big cities, the culture and everything and, you know, the cost of children is just so high that people tend to have less.
So we're going to depopulate in the next 20, 30, 40 years just because we're not having enough babies, right?
So this is something that's coming that's going to lead to de-globalization in the next 10, 20 years.
So this is happening now.
All right.
And so as we deglobalize, right?
Like we need to be very aware of where things come from.
Right.
And right now we're highly dependent on China.
So another thing that we're doing is just raising awareness that 97% of antibiotics come from China.
Right.
So what if they sanction us or something, right?
What if we really get into it over Taiwan and China's like, you know what, we're going to stop the antibiotic shipments.
We're going to stop the PPE shipments.
We're going to stop this and that.
Right.
If that were to happen and you got a toothache and you went to the pharmacy and they didn't have any augmented, what would you do?
Right.
So we're offering people like a kind of like a group of six antibiotics, like just in case of emergency for preppers, if they want something in their medicine cabinet to know that they're good to go for like almost anything, right?
It covers basically anything you could treat at home with an antibiotic, even a lot of bioweapons, right?
Like plague, tularemia, you know, anthrax, you can treat with off-the-shelf antibiotics, right?
And so those are all in our disaster preparedness kit.
And then like a refill of chronic meds.
But really, you know, to be resilient, right, as a culture, as a nation, as a people, you just got to be prepared, right?
Just take that, you know, Boy Scout motto and apply it to your life.
Be ready.
And part of that is getting healthy, you know, getting ready to, you know, to deal with illnesses with your own immune system, having some things on hand just in case, avoiding, you know, bioweapons as much as possible.
And if you're exposed to them, taking them seriously and using the medications and the treatment protocols very, very early on day one, right?
You don't want to wait until day five or until you're sure that you have it.
You got to just start right away.
One simple thing is iodine or hydrogen peroxide, right?
You take 3% hydrogen peroxide that you can get at any pharmacy, take two parts water, one part of that hydrogen peroxide, mix it together.
You get a 1% dilution of hydrogen peroxide.
That alone, okay, this one tip alone can kill basically any infection if you use it on day one, right?
Or if you use it before day one, when you're exposed to it, right?
You just rinse out your nose and mouth and swish and swallow and gargle and not swallow, sorry, swish and gargle and spit out every three to four hours for like a day or two or three.
And you're basically killing anything that's trying to get into your body.
And oftentimes people just do that one thing and they don't have to worry about anything after that, right?
Even colds, flus, whatever you get, it lasts for like six hours and it's gone and you're better.
You know, you feel a little tickle in your throat, it goes away after six hours, seven hours of doing that.
So simple things, you know, knowledge is power, but you got to have the right knowledge, you know, for it to be powerful.
Otherwise, it can be harmful, right?
It can actually be negative power, right?
It can be power, but used for the wrong.
And so get the knowledge, get prepared, be ready to go.
And don't, you know, be on the lookout for this monkeypox thing turning into something else or being bioengineered into something else and then released, right?
So this, but the real thing to be aware of is don't let them take our freedoms, okay?
That's the main thing to be afraid of with monkeypox is that they further subtract our freedoms and further subjugate us.
And, you know, I'm glad you mentioned anthrax because a lot of people forget about the post-9/11 anthrax attacks that were absolutely labeled 9-11 attacks.
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You had these things going out in the mail to media outlets and politicians.
And where did that trail lead?
Fort Dietrich, Maryland.
Keep that in mind, folks.
It is so important to be aware.
Dr. Saeed, this has been a pleasure of a conversation.
Give the websites out one more time for my audience.
Yeah, so the main websites are mygotodoc.com.
That's M-Y-G-O-T-O-D-O-C.com and mygoto stack.com.
That's M-Y-G-O-T-O-S-T-A-C-K.com.
You can get the Sarasenier Propuria and a bunch of COVID protocol medications from there.
All right, sir.
It has been a pleasure, and we'll have to do this in the near future.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Thanks for having me.
Another great conversation, folks.
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Now, I often use the Brave browser, but when doing this, it's just more stable with other people.
And I'm going to show everybody right here.
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Let's see if I can get the URL spot.
We'll bring it right down.
Look.
So it basically gives me this whole data text set.
I'm going to type Rumble into it right now.
Rumble.com, everybody.
Not secure.
Not secure.
I'm actually going to have to go into my settings and make it a secure website, but I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
I'm sure that Google, Alphabet, YouTube, whatever you want to call them, calico, have no nefarious intentions whatsoever against their competitor that's now suing them.
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Obviously, this conversation that we just had had nothing to do with right and left.
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And Dr. Saeed actually talked about that: how we have to get over our petty differences and come together because it is always about right and wrong.
And we, as a people, as a populace, as humanity, must come together and become the great resistance to this very real great reset agenda.
Thanks for joining me.
I love you guys, and I will see you on the flip side.