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Aug. 15, 2022 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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Epoch Times Reporter Exposes Hard Truths About Science China And Canada

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Transition to Media 00:01:38
Hey everybody, Jason Burmes here and I am joined by David of the Epoch Times, the Epoch Times.
We're going to talk about how to pronounce that.
Exactly.
And how you got into media.
We talked a little bit off air and you're actually originally from China.
You moved to Canva, you said, when you were 11.
How did you get into the media business?
So we all know what happened during the pandemic.
Things, society just wasn't the same anymore, right?
And I felt lost and I thought there must be a better way to contribute to the world.
And at the time, my job, with everything COVID had to offer, offered, we really got kind of screwed in terms of how we work every day.
So I was stuck at home and for about a few months I worked online.
Really, it didn't propel me anymore.
And they had an opportunity, so I joined Epok Times.
So what were you doing before this?
What was the job?
I was a teacher.
Oh, wow.
So were you an elementary school teacher?
High school teacher.
What'd you teach?
Sciences.
Sciences.
All right.
Okay.
So that's a pretty big transition from being a science teacher where you kind of have the summers off and holiday vacations and you're around young people all the time.
To this field, obviously.
Tell me about that transition, especially in such a weird time where you had varying levels of restrictions across the country.
Where are you located now?
So I'm based in New York now.
And one of the best things, like you mentioned, that transition period was actually special for me because what I found was that you're providing education in a different platform when you're doing media.
Now, who am I to educate Americans or anybody for that matter?
Ask Questions Before Believing 00:07:48
What I think education really should have been is you provide the information and you, like, whether you're a teacher or somebody teaching in university, is to have the students interpret the way that they see the world should fit.
But today, indoctrination has replaced or overshadowed education in my view.
And I think that was the big reason as well for me to change because I thought media is doing massive documentation.
And the Abuk Times has a message of bringing truth and tradition back to media the way it used to be.
And I think the way journalism should be.
So I think that's one of the big factors in me joining.
Well, now that I know that you were a science teacher, I've got to ask you, you know, this mantra of quote-unquote trust the science.
Science is obviously always questioning things, always trying to replicate things through hypotheses and experimentation and then deriving a theory that you prove again and again and again.
There really is no trusting the science.
Science is an ever-evolving field.
So how did you feel when that was one of the, I would call it Bernesian talking points that was being put out there?
I found it quite ridiculous because throughout the pandemic, had we known, we knew all these evidences, the virus was coming from China, it was coming from Wuhan.
And we knew that the case for the lab theory, right?
Whether it's a bioweapon or whatnot, that's up to debate.
But the fact that there was a majority of the people in the world who says, no, no, no, we can't believe that because scientifically trust the science, that this wasn't the case.
That to me just kind of defeated my view of science in a way.
And even during university, I remember learning about teaching and learning about how to explore and really get the kids to explore about science, which was the fact that you have to be hands-on, you have to show them.
And here we have all of these propaganda and these media messages that clearly go against, you know, go out and see for yourself, right?
They were like everybody has to just wear a mask, take a vaccine, and follow what we say rather than go out and say, well, what's best for me?
So we had the case with you want to vaccinate kids, right?
But out of everybody, the kids were the least affected by the virus, whereas the elderly, the seniors were the most affected relatively.
So you can't just generalize science, right?
And science is something that, like you said, it's in a research, it's an experiment, and you're supposed to be able to prove things wrong.
And I think that just wasn't happening earlier.
That's where I think public health overstepped their minds.
We went over to Palette because things, well, they were scared.
And they abandoned the basic principles of science.
Well, you know, I'm one of these people that I don't prefer either narrative.
In other words, I don't prefer the narrative of natural virus.
I think that natural virus is Johnny nonsense.
I think that's been disproven again and again and again.
I think the final nail in the coffin on that would be the fact that Moderna patented a drug in 2016.
They started the DARPA strategic collaboration on mRNA therapies in 2013.
They had a drug that has a 12-sequence DNA nucleotide that is identical to the virus.
Now, you know, the leak theory, I don't necessarily go with either because you have the experimentation that was going on in Chapel Hill as well.
Shouldn't we at least be able to ask those questions?
And do you think the media is doing enough to ask those questions?
Because I feel like, yeah, there are some people that say, Lab Leak, you had Fauci just recently joking about how he cooked it up in his kitchen with meatballs, making a farce of the fact that it could be a bioweapon or something that did perhaps leak from a laboratory.
How do you feel about even the media narratives kind of being rigid and not being able to ask what I think are more of the serious questions?
I mean, it really goes down to the political overreach of the media, right?
You're supposed to be the fourth estate.
You're supposed to be independent.
You're supposed to be able to ask questions yourself, not what a party, a political party tells you the talking point should be.
And this goes both ways, right?
And it's just not one Republican or Democrat.
It's the fact that, I'll give you an example of this.
So in China where I was born, you don't have independent media.
When you do have independent media that's asking questions, next thing you know, they're sent to the police bureau and they're being given a T-Talk, which is basically saying, hey, we're going to give you a warning.
You're not allowed to say or ask questions, right?
And so imagine if that's the case now in the United States where one group of media basically holds that set of talking points and then they refuse to ask questions that go against it and the other side is basically contradicting that.
I think that's just kind of the evolution of media overreach.
And that's, again, why I thought the Epoch Times was different, because we accept what was happening and we were trying to find the truth.
Now, with your question that says, you know, like yourself, you don't want to believe everything, right?
Or you want to kind of see both sides of where things are.
This is, again, I think, a reason why people don't trust the media anymore, right?
They don't trust corporate media.
They don't trust established media or the legacy media, so we call it, because they know that what they're doing is telling you basically what the lobbyists and what the corporation wants them to do.
And so like yourself and many others now in this evolution of media, which is independent YouTubers, right?
Rumble.
You have all these different spaces for creators who say we don't have a political impact and we don't have an ideology we have to follow up.
We just simply want what's best for the country.
I think that's where we see the key issue, is the fact that information today is being politicized, information is being manipulated, so those that can present true information are seen as minorities or outcasts.
and often crazy, so not new to me.
When you have the top official of public health, Fauci, saying things like, you know, like the cooked up COVID, right?
Laughing about it while he and the moderator are not in masks, but everybody in the audience is in a mask.
Exactly.
And it almost feels like Stockholm syndrome that these people think that's funny.
It's kind of wild, right?
Well, I mean, another example, again, from China is the fact that, so Xi Jinping, the Chinese president, right?
He says, back in 2020, he's like, the only way for us to fight against the pandemic is if we lock everybody down and mass test everybody every single day, right?
And this has still been an ongoing zero call.
And if you ever try to contradict his thing, like his whole thing about locking down is wrong, what do you get instead is, again, you probably get locked up.
You probably get called a traitor or something, right?
So the same thing happened here, but on a different scale, which is that public health dictators kind of would pull out and say, hey, we're going to control what's right and we're going to control what's wrong.
And again, that's just not right.
And I think the last point is when you consider where things were going, vaccine mandates, where things were going, but before we actually found the truth about the origin itself, right?
Like you said, you're not unable to question it.
So we didn't get anything clear from China.
We didn't get anything clear from Fauci until, say, the Republicans maybe start a committee on investigation of either COVID or Fauci.
I don't think we'll ever, even that, I honestly don't have a lot of faith in just because it's been so long, right?
It was the perfect opportunity for a political storm.
You know, what happened in 2020, the election, whether you think there were issues or not, whether the overreach of governments, like we're not the same country as we were back two years ago, just because once you take two steps forward, two steps forward, you go one step back, you've still given Lee waste and you've given them space to take away your rights.
It's called incrementalism.
The Rise of Authoritarianism 00:04:05
You can colonialism, right?
No.
That's, yeah, that's the word I was working for.
So let's talk about you actually being from China, right?
And I guess the CCP, communism.
I always say, you know, you can have all the isms in the world, right?
The bottom line is it's authoritarianism when you have one voice and you're not allowed to question that voice.
You obviously have a unique perspective being born there, spending your childhood there.
What were the main differences that you noticed from leaving China, moving into Canada, and then now I would assume that you still have some relationships with people in Canada.
And as far as Westernized nations go, they were one of the most authoritarian and continue to be one of the most authoritarian regimes according to COVID.
Yeah.
You know, that's a very interesting thing.
For people who, like your audience, who understand, if you met somebody from Cuba, if you've met someone from Venezuela, China, the former Soviet Union, anywhere that communism and socialism existed, you thought that you escaped sort of the West, this generalizing West, right?
Any free country to escape from communism, to escape from totalitarian or authoritarianism, only to find out that that same ideology has encroached upon the West and subverted the fundamental values so easily and so fast, right?
And it just, it blew my mind.
So that's why you have people running for Congress today running on the message of they were communism survivors, but now they're seeing the same things happening in this country.
So I think the United States needs to realize that you're only a step away from communism.
In the 60s, we had the anti-culture, we had the counterculture, sorry.
In the 80s and the 90s, we had forgotten after the Soviet Union fell that communism is still alive today.
We thought that we defeated communism.
But little do we know from universities, high schools, middle schools, elementary schools today, what do we see?
Critical race theory.
We're seeing racism as a key topic of division.
We're seeing categorization of class, race, gender, and so on, all these things.
Those are communist tactics.
So don't think that communism is so far from a free society, capitalism, right?
If communism can survive from the times of Marx, Karl Marx to now, there's bound to be attractions for people because if you're religious, and I think this is a better way to understand, if you're religious, which China is not an atheist by official accounts, you would understand that there's a higher order that you have to follow, that there's a living God or an entity judging the way you look, right?
But under socialism and communism, you destroy that higher order.
And what you do is you think everything is about yourself, even while you're calling for collectivism, calling for everybody being the same.
It's really about yourself.
That's how you generate dictators.
That's how you generate authoritarian leaders because everybody's for themselves under the banner of communism.
So the biggest thing I found while escaping China was at first I was relieved.
I thought that I was finally free.
That I learned the principles of free society when it actually.
But COVID again changed that.
There's a new wave of socialism that we're just not used to.
I think Americans are waking up.
I mean, we have these events and reawakened Americans.
I think communism and socialism should be a big topic because in the end, their goal is to destroy the way you live.
The way you were born in here or the way you come to the United States, they want to destroy all of that.
And they want a globalizing future of humanity or this global government so that everybody can become a good control of communism.
So I'm afraid today I can't tell you the answer is that I'm happy.
I think I'm sad because I think where things are going, if we didn't have people fighting back, the defenders of freedom, I think you're going to see communism growing fast.
Voices Fighting Back 00:02:56
Well, I think that we're already under a state of authoritarianism and all of it is really collectivism.
That's really why I enjoy the works of G. Edward Griffin, who's warned about it for decades and used that terminology.
And one of the ways that they brought in that collectivism, authoritarianism, not allowing other voices is the algorithm and banning voices on the largest platforms out there.
We kind of talked about this off air, but there was a time where I couldn't turn on a YouTube video without seeing an epic or Epoch Times ad.
And then that went away.
I believe you were off that platform for a while.
Recently, you started, you came back, you were stripped from Twitter, and you had the warning that they give to bit shoot and all these other things, which I think is completely illegitimate.
You guys fought that and got it back.
Tell me about that process.
How do you do that?
I think generating awareness, and even though, so that's the interesting thing, right?
Because you're fighting.
It's your reach, right?
It's always that.
Yeah, but it's like you're fighting against big tech.
And that's just like your David versus Goliath moment every single day.
And so either you hold set fast to the values that you believe in and or you cape.
And I think we know what happens when people cape.
You give up an inch to them, they take the mile, right?
That's where things, I think you have to fight every spot.
And somebody, I can't exactly remember who told me this.
It might have been just an event goer, but they're saying that, you know, some Republicans, right?
They're saying, hey, we can compromise.
We can give a little bit in exchange for things back, right?
But the other side doesn't think like that.
They think like real, I mean, some of them are really socialists, right?
Like they think like they give you an inch, they will take your entire country overnight because that's just how evil works.
That's just how a totalitarian system works.
Anytime you surrender your personal freedom, you're really surrendering the freedom of your community.
And the more voices you have lost in the process, the more you lose for your entire country.
Like, I mean, going back to the point you mentioned, we were off YouTube, right?
So instead of trying to be like, oh, you know, we're off YouTube, we're going to stop fighting, right?
You keep working at it and you maintain your values until one point.
I think that's also why I find it so interesting that in this time today, there's still a chance for virtue, there's still a chance for truth.
Because without that, I think that's the danger.
But I think, you know, for us, we really thought that was getting off YouTube.
Our channels were actually all demonetized after the January 6th.
Yeah, I've been demonetized for three years.
I got kicked off a GoFundMe for covering January 6th.
I'm by no means a conservative or a liberal.
Surrendering Freedom? 00:02:26
I'm in it for the truth, man.
And I don't trust anybody.
It's scary.
That's even more scary than being a conservative, right?
Because conservatives, I mean, you can label yourself a conservative, but if you're compromising, you're going to the other side for the establishment or whatnot.
But a true seeker today, I think, is more dangerous.
But, you know, you have alternatives now, right?
You have, whether that's Parlor or you have Rumble, you have True Social, you have all of these things.
So I think that was unexpected by them.
And that's why you see the whole Elon Musk buying Twitter thing so scandalous because they realize that we're not so powerful.
Well, I mean, we could talk about Musk off there because that's a whole nother can of worms.
But I really do appreciate your time.
Is there anything else you want to leave my audience with?
How can they find you?
Epic has a TV on top of that.
So you have a show over there?
Yeah, so I have a show called China Insider on Epoc TV.
And if you have a subscription with the Epoc Times already, you can already watch all of our content.
And I just think that we're not trying to do this because we believe in some corporate ideologies or we believe in something.
I just think that it's time for media to tell the truth.
And it's just so angry when you don't see them do that because that's against everything that we're brought up, right?
We're brought up as truth seekers, brought up as truth tellers.
So why is it media is different today when they're not doing things?
I think that's our whole mission.
Our slogan is truth and tradition.
So I think that's time to go back to traditional journalism, traditional truth telling, and so forth.
Well, David, this has been pretty awesome.
It's great to get a perspective not only from somebody from China, but also a science teacher who moves into the media realm during this whole COVID-19 44 nightmare and continues to hit.
I mean, that's what it is, man.
It's COVID-1984.
I mean, you could throw a little brave new world on there if you want, but that's where we're at.
And look, I'm going to speak truth to power as much as possible.
I think that we have to continue to utilize the platforms that are the biggest, even if they are censoring and pushback, because that's where the audience is.
I mean, we could talk about Google being the number one search engine in the world.
The number two search engine, that's YouTube.
The number one video platform in the world, that's YouTube.
I mean, the number one operating system in the world, that's Android.
You know, these people are dominating in a fashion we have never seen before.
So it's really good to see independent media and things like the Epic Times out there questioning.
Thank you, David.
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