Joe Rogan and Theo Von dissect the Iran conflict, contrasting Gaza's trauma with Israel's history as an "open air prison" and debating the morality of war. They highlight that 70% of Americans oppose the fight while MAGA supporters show 75% approval on X, accusing Trump of playing 5D chess for Israel rather than stopping terrorism. Citing CIA intervention in the 1970s to crush Iran's oil independence, they condemn drone strikes on schools and conclude that Western powers prioritize monopolies over sovereignty, ultimately rejecting the war despite their previous MAGA alignment. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Iran Nuclear Lie00:05:31
This Joe Rogan and Phil Vaughn clip, man, it's making people feel uncomfortable.
I don't know why.
It's the truth.
Check this out.
Did you see those kids in Gaza with, like, they had, like, they were playing a doll, and they were, like, it was like they loaded their doll up on a stretcher.
Like, they were, it's heartbreaking.
Bro, imagine, like, just the trauma.
If you lived in that place pre October 7th, it was not fun even back then.
It was an open air prison by a, Most of Calais.
Oh, yeah, they were taking settlers' homes.
They'd come and knock into your home and then eventually just take it away.
Well, there's an attitude that a lot of Israelis have that it's all theirs.
I can't believe we went to this war.
When we started bombing Iran, I was like, this can't be true.
And what about Lebanon now?
I know.
Israel's invaded Lebanon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's like, just fucking stop it.
What do you need?
Well, they're trying to, supposedly, they're trying to stop the terrorists.
That's crazy, though, if you're the fucking terrorist.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if you want to stop them, you stand in front of the fucking mirror.
Yeah, yeah.
But you got it all wrong, Theo.
We Christians.
Israel, that's God's chosen people.
We MAGA.
We're trying to eliminate the terrorists.
Well, that's the way a lot of MAGA sees this.
But you know what?
This conversation that Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn is having, I would say that's 70% of America.
The other 30% that's totally for this war, I would say, is MAGA.
Yeah.
And if you didn't know, I was being facetious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I see the comments.
Majority of MAGA, I did a poll on X, and 75% approve of this war.
Yeah.
That's MAGA.
That's hardcore MAGA right there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But 70% of America is totally against this.
Majority of the left, I would say over 90%, totally disagrees with this.
Yeah.
Then the other remaining 50%, I would say 30% of them is MAGA.
They support another 20% that support Trump.
They don't support this.
Yeah.
Nobody's.
We've fallen.
We've fallen that.
Yeah, can we?
I don't support this.
No.
It's start there.
And I'm sick of rich people not putting their kids over in these wars.
Put your honky ass kids up there.
Let them go shed some blood.
Especially if you're asking for it.
Especially if you're out there bullshitting, dude.
It makes me mad, bro.
Going to war.
War's a terrifying thing.
But I mean, I wouldn't call what he does war, but I. You mean what they're doing right now with Gaza?
Yeah.
And I'm not jumping on you.
Iran is war.
That's war.
Iran's a real enemy.
You know, it's a different.
Are they an enemy to America?
Well, what they are is the largest country in terms of state sponsored terrorism.
They're the largest sponsor of terrorism.
But also, you've got to think why.
And if you go back to what happened in that country, Iran was like a westernized country.
Girls were wearing miniskirts.
Everybody's hot.
You seen that video from the 70s of Iran?
Oh, yeah.
When they tried to nationalize oil.
Yeah.
The CIA swooped in and they got that guy out of office.
The point is, the country was doing fine.
Before we monkeyed with it, and we monkeyed with it because they were not getting enough of the money from the oil.
You see, like, how it all played out and why it is what it is today.
Jesus Christ, you'd be mad too.
Yeah.
And when you're mad and you're surrounded by bigger enemies that all have nuclear weapons, you don't even have nuclear weapons, wouldn't you be trying to make them?
You know what I'm saying?
You know, it's crazy.
There's too much common sense.
Yeah.
Think about what happened during January 6th, right?
A lot of Republicans here on the right, we felt like that election was stolen.
And look what happened at the Capitol.
Right now, now you see how pissed MAGA was.
Right now, think about it when tens of thousands of people have been bombed from a certain country.
Right, that are bombing your country, tens of thousands of people are dying.
And then when you retaliate against that country, right, you're labeled the terrorist.
Right, great point.
Yeah, who's the terrorist, really?
We killed 170 schoolgirls over there, we're bombing Brits.
Well, that was by mistake.
Yeah, but that's still a terrorist act to kill innocent children.
I don't know if it was a mistake.
Yeah.
That's a terrorist attack.
I mean, we would call it a mistake if something like that happened here.
We would call it a terrorist attack, even though if the other countries are, oh man, we did it by mistake.
Right.
It was like, let's say Cuba was testing some kind of short range missile and it hit Atlanta, not Atlanta, like Miami or something, it was a mistake.
We would still call that a terrorist attack.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But we don't want to drop the atomic bomb on people.
I mean, if you want to, if they are terrorists, by definition, we are terrorists as well.
Well, that's war.
I'm just going to go back to how Iran sees it.
Yeah, but war crimes, you can call it a war crime if you want.
Yeah.
We're not innocent.
Yeah.
Not at all.
By no means.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not saying Iran should have nuclear weapons.
I don't think anybody should have nuclear weapons.
Israel gets to have them.
Allegedly.
This is the problem.
Allegedly.
Everything's allegedly with them.
Allegedly with them.
Except for the genocide.
I don't think they admit they officially have them.
And you know who is a big opponent of Israel getting nuclear weapons?
JFK.
JFK.
Hmm.
Yeah.
That's what a lot of people think led back into the left.
Oh, yeah.
Before they killed him.
The Iranian Revolution, also called the Islamic Revolution, was a mass uprising in Iran, overthrew the Shah's monarchy in 1979, replaced it with an Islamic Republic led by Ayatollah Rula Khomeini.
Alleged Weapons and Genocide00:06:01
But the bottom line is people are making a lot of money over there in oil, and they wanted most of the money, and they got boxed out.
And then they wound up with a psychotic dictator.
The story is basically Iran tried to take back its oil.
The British and Americans teamed up in secret to crush that idea.
And send a warning to the rest of the world.
Britain had built its empire and navy on cheap Iranian oil via the Anglo Iranian Oil Company, later British petroleum companies.
London saw it as a direct threat to its global power and profits.
Elites feared that if Iran got away with nationalizing its oil, other countries in the Middle East and beyond would copy, destroying Western oil monopolies, so they were determined to make Iran an example.
Bro, we've been monkeying around with other countries forever.
This thing in Venezuela went there and kidnapped a dude.
Well, a lot of it says it's because these are the countries that are still outside of the Rothschild's banking system.
Or whatever.
Have you seen that thing?
I have not.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Everybody just feels scared and it makes sense.
Well, they should because.
Yeah, you know what the whole thing about Venezuela, it makes sense now.
It was nothing about a dictator or drugs or drugs coming to America.
It was about the oil that they had.
Yeah, because.
Because they seen this coming.
Right, right.
That was going to attack Iran.
It was like all of this stuff already been playing.
Trump is, I'm telling you, not only is Trump playing 5D chess against Democrats, he's playing 5D chess against his own constituents, the people that voted for him.
We took Venezuela, not because of drugs, because we needed that oil, because.
In the light that we did invade Iran and oil prices go through the roof, that's another source of oil for us.
Yeah.
It is a strategic war move.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of things are getting exposed right now.
You're seeing it at the highest levels of government.
And people are also scared because no one's getting in trouble for things.
Like, no one's getting in trouble for the Epstein files.
Yeah, that's almost disappeared, kind of.
In the past, leaders have used to cover up problems at home as a.
I'm not saying that that's why they bombed Iran, but that would be a way to do it.
If you're that psychotic, you know, and if you were thinking about doing it anyway, you might be able to justify it.
Also to stay in power.
Oh, yeah.
Even Bill Clinton.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
I don't think this is a diversion from Epstein Files.
No, this is a favor Trump's doing for Israel.
Yeah, he got over $200 million from one person.
So how much hundreds of millions of dollars did he really get?
Yeah, this is a campaign.
This has nothing to do with terrorism.
This is.
Zionism.
This has nothing to do with freeing the people of Iran.
No, they're talking about blowing up their bridges, their power plants.
They're going to send them back to the Stone Age.
Yeah, it's just another lie.
Yeah, Trump was in the White House with a hat make Iran great again.
Yeah, it was just marketing.
Trump is the best marketer, the best politician in American history.
But now.
There's people on the right, especially MAGA, they can't call him out when you catch him in a lie.
The guy is a pathological liar.
Don't get me wrong.
He's did a lot of great things.
But this war is a lie.
That Venezuelan thing, that's a lie.
That was a lie.
Yeah, it's okay to criticize him.
That does not make me a liberal.
Yeah, I'm not a Democrat.
I just call balls and strikes whoever's pitching.
I don't care.
Yeah, if you're wrong.
Yeah, I'm not a seek a fan for nobody.
Yeah.
And I never will be.
Yeah.
Clinton said that about Netanyahu.
Bill Clinton said Netanyahu wants war so he can stay in power.
For sure, dude.
People call him the Yarmulke Hitler.
Well, it's just a scary time.
It's a scary time because people are willing to blow people up with drones and missiles, and they're shooting into apartment buildings and blowing up schools.
And it's like, f man.
It's all just a cat and mouse game.
People are like, we'll elect the Democrats next time.
It's like, but it's all the same shit has been happening forever.
They haven't been helping anybody forever.
They're letting politicians slurp on kids.
All of our money goes to Israel, and they're using it to genocide people.
It's a time where it's like Satan is amongst us.
You know, there's a lot of brown people getting murdered on f.
Tick tock all the time, like you know, in the Middle East.
Well, everybody should be upset about that.
The idea that there's the only way to solve problems is by dropping bombs on people is it's so crazy that's still the move in 2026.
I don't think we're over there doing that for ourselves, though.
Doesn't seem like it, doesn't seem like it's in our best interest.
What is it that like Israel holds over America that we do those things?
Well, first of all, there's a lot of people that donated to the Trump campaign that have significant influence over him.
Yeah.
Lobby for Israel.
Oh, Joe, it just seems spooky out there.
It seems now like most people are like, Our government does not, obviously, is not here to help the people.
Obviously.
They've been compromised.
That's true.
But the crazy part is, we're working to pay the taxes to keep them doing it.
It's like, I know.
And that starts to make you feel sick.
That's what's scary, too.
You're like, There's just a drone out there waiting for you to say the wrong thing.
And they put a bullet through you, like some child in Gaza who's just trying to find his other deceased brother in a pile of rubble.
And they're like, Oh, that's a Hamas or whatever.
You're like, That kid's fucking.
Yeah, and we still have the nerve to call ourselves Christians or Christian Nation.
It's so laughable.
Yeah, we are a Christian Nation.
We just got our priorities kind of jacked up.
Well, we're the biggest hypocrites in the world.
Everybody's hypocrites.
We're all flawed.
I mean, I think we're the worst type, though.
Oh, when you call yourself a Christian.
Yeah, and we're going to free Iran.
We're doing it for the Iranians.
Those are God's chosen people.
Who?
The juice boxes.
I'm talking about the Iranians.
Yeah, I'm talking about just God's chosen people.
That's what a lot of Mecca people feel.
They're entitled to that land.
Iran and Israel want all that land.
What happened to the people that's already living there?
I mean, if it was that important to Jesus, he'd have given it to him.
Christian Nation Hypocrisy00:01:24
Well, I don't know.
I don't think that's God's chosen people.
I think the people who follow Christ.
If you're a true Christian, you get it.
I do too.
I'm just talking about MAGA supporters.
I used to be MAGA.
I'm America first now.
That's what MAGA was supposed to be.
I mean, I just call it like it is, man.
It's just the things that come out of Trump's mouth, Christian Gnome's mouth, and this whole thing with the Epstein files.
It's just one lie after another.
Well, they fired Pam Bondi.
And I see a lot of, you know, Michael supporters, Trump supporters.
Like, yeah, now we're going to really get stuff done.
No.
You don't think before Trump picked her, she had her orders what to do and what not to do?
Y'all think she's really handcuffing Trump?
Yeah.
Think about who Trump is.
You think Trump's going to let that happen and it took him almost a year and a half to end up firing her?
Yeah, Pam Bundy is the scapegoat.
This dude, Todd Blanch, he ain't going to do a damn thing either.
He ain't going to do nothing.
Yeah, she is definitely the scapegoat.
I wonder how much longer Pete Higgseth is going to last.
Because if this war goes south.
Oh, Trump's blaming it on him.
Oh, he did.
It was his idea.
That's exactly what Trump's going to say.
No, he's not going to fire him.
He's going to move him to another position.
Yeah.
That's how Trump did it.
Right, right.
Yeah.
But yeah, just for the record, we are both totally against this war in Iran.