Hodgetwins - Interview Exposes Difference Between Black and White Culture
Aired: 2026-03-30
Duration: 10:44


=== Wilder vs White Culture Clash (10:43) ===

[00:00:00]  This interview between Deontay Wilder, the box of the black guy, and this white guy exposes the difference between white culture and black culture.
[00:00:09]  Check this video out.
[00:00:10]  I wanted to move you on to Tarson Fury.
[00:00:14]  I don't want to talk about him.
[00:00:15]  No, you got to talk to you.
[00:00:15]  We're here about Darrell.
[00:00:16]  No, no, but you're going to talk about it.
[00:00:17]  We're not going to talk about him.
[00:00:19]  But as Paul.
[00:00:19]  We're not going to talk about him at all.
[00:00:21]  Understand that.
[00:00:22]  If somebody practicing taking their stuff out of their guns and training, what you think they're going to do in the fight?
[00:00:27]  Yeah, but that's all I got to say about that.
[00:00:29]  I want to put something to you about you.
[00:00:30]  And Fury just happens to be the hook for it.
[00:00:32]  That's all I got to say about it.
[00:00:33]  You talked about being treated in that fight.
[00:00:35]  You talked about water being spiked.
[00:00:37]  You talked about your Game of Thrones outfit being too heavy for you.
[00:00:41]  I didn't say that.
[00:00:42]  You said it was too heavy for you.
[00:00:43]  I didn't say that.
[00:00:44]  Okay, well, I might be wrong on that one.
[00:00:45]  What I'm asking you in all of this is it sounds to me, given the character that you are, that's like a little bit flaky.
[00:00:52]  You lost those fights, and those fights were lost.
[00:00:55]  And you saying that someone like Fury treated you in those fights, I think it's kind of disappointing to me.
[00:01:02]  I know the truth.
[00:01:03]  I have the facts.
[00:01:04]  Okay.
[00:01:05]  I understand that.
[00:01:06]  But I got the facts of it.
[00:01:07]  I got the proof.
[00:01:08]  I got the people to tell it.
[00:01:09]  And we'll look forward to it.
[00:01:10]  I understand that.
[00:01:10]  We'll look forward to it.
[00:01:11]  Understand that.
[00:01:12]  What I say in boxing, I mean, and it's the truth.
[00:01:16]  I risk my life for you's entertainment to see.
[00:01:18]  Absolutely.
[00:01:19]  So I ain't never lied about none of this business.
[00:01:22]  You can believe what.
[00:01:22]  Why is it so hard to believe a black man than a white man?
[00:01:26]  Why is it so hard to believe a black man?
[00:01:30]  See, this has nothing to do with race.
[00:01:32]  Us as black people, we like to incorporate racism into everything we see.
[00:01:40]  Even though it has nothing to do with the conversational particular situational event.
[00:01:45]  Yeah.
[00:01:45]  They should have just left race out of it.
[00:01:47]  But I think he had some valid points about that fight.
[00:01:50]  He's made some claims that he had something in his gloves or something like that.
[00:01:53]  Yeah, yeah, I get that.
[00:01:54]  But why make it about race?
[00:01:55]  I know you lost the battle when you do that.
[00:01:58]  Anything you say after that, Matthew brought out race, everything you say is not going to be credible.
[00:02:05]  It's credible to black people.
[00:02:06]  No, you need white people.
[00:02:08]  They're the majority of the population.
[00:02:12]  Why is it?
[00:02:12]  Let me ask you a question.
[00:02:14]  Yeah, go on.
[00:02:14]  So why?
[00:02:15]  Especially for myself.
[00:02:16]  Nothing to do with color.
[00:02:19]  This whole country got something to do.
[00:02:20]  This whole world got something to do with race.
[00:02:24]  You think you turn out better.
[00:02:25]  You think you have a, you think, you'd have had a great life.
[00:02:28]  You think your life has been like mine?
[00:02:30]  I would stare at Chesaur then.
[00:02:32]  See, he is so emotional.
[00:02:34]  Yeah.
[00:02:35]  He's trying to undermine his own life and everything he's accomplished in his life.
[00:02:39]  He's trying to say that white man has had a better life than him.
[00:02:42]  I think he's worth like, well, he's a more type millionaire.
[00:02:45]  I think he's worth 30 million.
[00:02:46]  You Dante Wilder?
[00:02:47]  Deontay?
[00:02:48]  Yeah.
[00:02:48]  Yeah, Deontay.
[00:02:49]  I mean, that's a great life.
[00:02:51]  Yeah, and when I hear black people talk like this, it makes me think that they don't like being black.
[00:02:58]  Yeah.
[00:02:59]  Yeah.
[00:03:00]  I mean, it's very suspicious when they resort to that.
[00:03:03]  It's like everything they achieved in life has been secondhand because they've been black.
[00:03:08]  It's like they're giving off this impression that they should have performed a lot better or been more financially successful if they were white instead of black.
[00:03:17]  And I think that does a lot of black people a disservice.
[00:03:20]  Like Hallie Berry came out the other day.
[00:03:22]  She said, after she went to Grammy, next morning, I woke up, I'm still black.
[00:03:27]  I'm like, what?
[00:03:29]  Like, it makes me think they don't like being black.
[00:03:31]  If they had a chance, if they came out with a machine, where you walk in black, you walk out as a white person.
[00:03:39]  I think most black people would do it.
[00:03:40]  Yeah.
[00:03:41]  Just based on his interaction.
[00:03:43]  How emotional he gets.
[00:03:44]  Yeah, Halley Barry, Deontay, y'all have had great lives.
[00:03:47]  Yeah.
[00:03:48]  I don't get it.
[00:03:48]  Okay, also forgiving.
[00:03:49]  He's a black man.
[00:03:50]  I'm a national treasure in this country that it's not about color.
[00:03:53]  You call somebody a church.
[00:03:55]  You have a whole lot of black people around you.
[00:04:00]  Bring out a question.
[00:04:02]  I moved on.
[00:04:02]  I want to pull it back into that.
[00:04:04]  I want to ask you a question.
[00:04:05]  I want to ask you a question.
[00:04:07]  Deontay, let me just get this, get into Derek about Fight Week.
[00:04:09]  Because he's known to be dynamic in Fight Week.
[00:04:13]  We just see that little safe story that's right.
[00:04:15]  Come on, man.
[00:04:15]  Y'all can't tell, man.
[00:04:17]  He can't even sit still.
[00:04:20]  He got rattled, man, because black people are fragile when it comes to race.
[00:04:24]  If you want to get a black person off their game, just bring up race.
[00:04:28]  They lose it.
[00:04:29]  Puts them in a trance.
[00:04:30]  It's like they're unable to think.
[00:04:32]  Mesmerizes them.
[00:04:34]  Puts them hypnotizes them.
[00:04:35]  Yeah.
[00:04:36]  Yeah.
[00:04:39]  Come on, man.
[00:04:40]  We can never disagree.
[00:04:42]  As a little boy, and as a view as a little boy is totally different than my view as a little boy.
[00:04:48]  Most black people, while we so into it, we didn't tell them because we have PTLD.
[00:04:52]  We done been through so much.
[00:04:54]  So that's a great point.
[00:04:57]  Growing up as a little kid, all my horrible experiences in life involved other black people, like guns and stuff like that being put on me.
[00:05:04]  So he kind of admits that.
[00:05:06]  He has PTSD.
[00:05:07]  That's why we at each other's throats all the time.
[00:05:09]  But I think he's trying to say we at each other's throats because of the PTSD put on them by white people.
[00:05:15]  Yeah, that PTSD ain't coming from white people.
[00:05:17]  Yeah.
[00:05:17]  It's coming from us.
[00:05:19]  But that's a great point, Deontay.
[00:05:20]  That's a great point.
[00:05:22]  If that's the point he was trying to make.
[00:05:24]  Yeah.
[00:05:26]  Why don't you move on, right?
[00:05:28]  It's hard to move on when you don't know the truth.
[00:05:30]  And that's when I come in and try to give you a vision.
[00:05:33]  A little inside.
[00:05:34]  See, this guy right here, he's loving it.
[00:05:35]  He agrees with them.
[00:05:38]  This exposes black culture.
[00:05:39]  This is how black people think.
[00:05:41]  As a black person, y'all need some Uncle Tom's in your life.
[00:05:46]  Yeah, he's going to fight this guy.
[00:05:48]  Yeah.
[00:05:48]  It's the next fight.
[00:05:49]  Yeah.
[00:05:50]  It's going to end up.
[00:05:51]  That's why I think I might be wrong.
[00:05:52]  Like, y'all need, and I say that, you know, jokingly, Uncle Tom.
[00:05:56]  Uncle Tom real life was a hero.
[00:05:57]  But y'all need a different perspective from a black person.
[00:06:01]  Yeah.
[00:06:02]  Move on when you don't know the truth.
[00:06:04]  And that's when I come in and try to give you a vision, a little inside of what we go through as black people, man.
[00:06:09]  I go there.
[00:06:10]  You know, you don't get it.
[00:06:12]  None of y'all get it.
[00:06:13]  What do you want me to get?
[00:06:13]  Y'all don't get it.
[00:06:14]  And that's the problem.
[00:06:15]  You think you get what you don't understand.
[00:06:18]  Okay.
[00:06:18]  Why is it so hard?
[00:06:19]  Put it back into the fight.
[00:06:20]  Let's talk about the fight.
[00:06:21]  It's hard to put it back.
[00:06:22]  I'm from the South.
[00:06:23]  You understand?
[00:06:23]  Come on.
[00:06:23]  Let's put it back into the fight.
[00:06:25]  It's hard when y'all don't understand.
[00:06:26]  I think I got another situation.
[00:06:28]  I said I didn't want to talk about.
[00:06:30]  I get it.
[00:06:31]  I totally get it.
[00:06:33]  It's still not good enough.
[00:06:34]  Yeah, I think a lot of black people suffer from.
[00:06:37]  I do personally.
[00:06:38]  And I think I see it in a lot of black folks.
[00:06:40]  We have racial anxiety.
[00:06:43]  We see things that's not there.
[00:06:44]  I think we had a little bit of that growing up.
[00:06:47]  Oh, yeah, most definitely.
[00:06:48]  But then we went into the Marine Corps and traveled around.
[00:06:52]  And I just learned, you know, white people is just like us.
[00:06:54]  Yeah.
[00:06:55]  I think a lot of black people, they suffer from only living around other black people.
[00:07:00]  I grew up in poor white neighborhoods.
[00:07:02]  I lived in poor black neighborhoods.
[00:07:04]  And I got to see it from both sides.
[00:07:06]  Yeah.
[00:07:06]  I think black people just have a perspective from one side, and that's it.
[00:07:12]  That's true.
[00:07:13]  Yeah.
[00:07:13]  About a situation.
[00:07:14]  Now you got me riled up.
[00:07:15]  Fair enough.
[00:07:16]  Wild as that.
[00:07:17]  I feel you understand me.
[00:07:19]  You don't mean that, man.
[00:07:20]  I can't stop.
[00:07:21]  Let me get the out of here, bro.
[00:07:22]  I'm out of here.
[00:07:24]  I'm out of here talking about my peoples and all that.
[00:07:26]  It's wait a minute.
[00:07:27]  He said, y'all talk about my people.
[00:07:28]  No, you're talking about your people.
[00:07:31]  You made this about race.
[00:07:33]  He's just asking you simple boxing questions.
[00:07:36]  Doesn't matter if you're black or white, but you the one made it about race.
[00:07:40]  See, just the thing.
[00:07:40]  He's a white interviewer.
[00:07:42]  Yeah.
[00:07:42]  And the guy he's asking him about is another white guy.
[00:07:45]  So he felt like they were attacking him for his skin color.
[00:07:47]  Yeah.
[00:07:48]  Which wasn't the case.
[00:07:50]  I'm telling you, black people suffer from racial anxiety.
[00:07:56]  Oh, you mean that?
[00:07:57]  Black and white, man, black people have a very difficult time handling that on their own.
[00:08:01]  Yeah.
[00:08:02]  Okay, stop.
[00:08:03]  Let me get the out of here, bro.
[00:08:04]  I'm out of here.
[00:08:05]  I'm out of here talking about my people and all that.
[00:08:07]  It's hard to believe a black man than a white man.
[00:08:10]  The mother cheated.
[00:08:11]  Tell him to sue me so I can show the facts early.
[00:08:14]  Because when the documentary and everything, the story come out, I'm going to show every thing.
[00:08:18]  I'm going to get all the people that all the people that's in the inside.
[00:08:21]  He got people in the inside of him.
[00:08:24]  I don't what?
[00:08:25]  No, I don't about that.
[00:08:26]  I'm not scared.
[00:08:27]  I don't know.
[00:08:28]  I said we didn't want to bring him up in the first place.
[00:08:30]  It ain't got to do with him.
[00:08:32]  The you talking about.
[00:08:34]  Well, I see why he's upset.
[00:08:37]  I don't understand his reaction.
[00:08:38]  Yeah.
[00:08:39]  You can't control your emotions.
[00:08:41]  Yeah, I know.
[00:08:42]  But he's there to promote that fight.
[00:08:44]  He's not there to talk about Tyson Fury.
[00:08:46]  He wasn't ready for it.
[00:08:47]  But he's insisting that Fury cheated.
[00:08:52]  And he's got a documentary coming out.
[00:08:54]  He could have handled it a lot.
[00:08:55]  A lot better, yeah.
[00:08:56]  Yeah.
[00:08:57]  Yeah.
[00:08:58]  Storming out in the room.
[00:09:00]  I guess he felt like he was being attacked.
[00:09:03]  But you should be able to handle verbal and physical attacks.
[00:09:06]  You're a professional boxer.
[00:09:11]  Yeah, it's not done yet.
[00:09:13]  It's not done yet.
[00:09:13]  Look at this.
[00:09:15]  Yeah, man.
[00:09:16]  I'm out.
[00:09:19]  What happened there wasn't right.
[00:09:20]  He told you, don't bring it up.
[00:09:21]  Come on.
[00:09:22]  It's on schedule.
[00:09:23]  I had to ask a question.
[00:09:24]  Well, about Fury.
[00:09:25]  He told you.
[00:09:26]  Everyone else asked him.
[00:09:27]  Rick Reno asks him.
[00:09:28]  Why can't I ask him?
[00:09:29]  Derek, sit down.
[00:09:30]  Come on.
[00:09:31]  I'll wait for you for half an hour.
[00:09:32]  Don't be a come on.
[00:09:34]  That was nuts.
[00:09:35]  Yeah, it looked like he did a bait and switch with him, though.
[00:09:37]  No, I ain't gonna bring it up.
[00:09:38]  Didn't as soon as you get on the show, he brings it up.
[00:09:40]  That's just a question, man.
[00:09:42]  I know.
[00:09:43]  He made some comments.
[00:09:44]  You're not gonna defend him.
[00:09:45]  Right, right.
[00:09:46]  If you're not ready to defend anything, don't bring it up.
[00:09:48]  Don't make those accusations.
[00:09:49]  Yeah, but I think he was trying to promote that fight between him and the other guy.
[00:09:54]  You know?
[00:09:55]  I get that.
[00:09:56]  Yeah.
[00:09:56]  But Kevin, you're going to an interview.
[00:09:58]  Right, right.
[00:09:58]  Be prepared.
[00:10:00]  Don't you have a PR team to help you answer questions?
[00:10:04]  Right, right.
[00:10:05]  He totally mishandled this situation.
[00:10:06]  Yeah.
[00:10:07]  I'm not giving him any excuses, but I can see why he's upset, though.
[00:10:11]  That upset?
[00:10:12]  Not that upset, no.
[00:10:14]  No.
[00:10:15]  Of course not.
[00:10:17]  Of course not.
[00:10:18]  Oh, we got Woke Kevin here today, everybody.
[00:10:20]  Look at Woke Kevin.
[00:10:21]  What are you talking about?
[00:10:22]  Kevin getting woke in here.
[00:10:23]  Well, it's two sides to every story.
[00:10:24]  Yeah, I get that.
[00:10:25]  But I'm not excusing his behavior.
[00:10:27]  He should have totally handled it differently.
[00:10:29]  Oh, okay.
[00:10:30]  Oh, okay.
[00:10:31]  I just want to make that clear.
[00:10:32]  That's more like it.
[00:10:33]  Yeah.
[00:10:40]  Well, that's the difference between white culture and black culture.