Anton Daniels and Corey Holcomb engage in a volatile political clash moderated by Darlene, centering on race, police brutality, and tribalism. Daniels challenges Holcomb's assertion that police shootings are inevitable, arguing most involve provocation, while accusing the comedian of subservience to white liberals. The exchange escalates with insults like "dick sucker," threats of physical confrontation, and accusations of fear-driven silence among Black conservatives. Ultimately, the hosts conclude this heated interaction epitomizes the stark divide between rational Black Republicans and irrational, monolithic Black Democrats, highlighting the impossibility of cross-partisan dialogue. [Automatically generated summary]
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Blanket Statements and Disrespect00:10:48
I'm gonna give you the same shoot that you give me.
Let's honestly.
That's what you say.
I'm with homie.
I don't do no friendship.
I don't do no.
I'm a man.
I don't do no sh ⁇ .
I don't give a f ⁇ about nothing.
All right, so this is Anton, very popular YouTuber, right-wing.
Yeah.
Right?
Kurt Holcomb, he's a well-known comedian.
He's left-wing.
I actually met him at the LA Improv years ago, right?
So they're talking politics.
You know this is about to happen.
I don't even know what that female is sitting in between them too.
Yeah, so whenever you take a black guy from the right and you take a black guy from the left, it's going to always come down to race.
Yeah.
It's just the way it is.
It's always going to come down to being disrespected to.
Yeah.
From the left.
Yeah, yeah.
But on the left, black people see everything through a lens of racism and race and blanket statements.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Check this conversation out.
I believe you know this already.
When the cops shoot you, ain't nothing you can do about it.
Oh my God.
He's pretty much saying, just if the cops go to shoot you, they're going to shoot you.
Yeah.
It's like, and you have no, you can't do anything about it.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is, which is a blanket statement.
Yeah.
Which, and it's not happening.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because cops are just not out here shooting black people for no reason.
Yeah.
That black person is giving that cop solid reasons.
All right.
Let's get to the conversation.
This is so crazy.
Do you think that's wrong with this?
This is so insane.
Is that what I said?
I said when the cops shoot you, ain't nothing you can do about it.
Is that a lie?
This is so insane.
It is.
But you didn't answer it.
I'm going to answer your question.
Okay.
I'm going to answer your question.
It depends on the circumstance.
True.
And the interesting thing about it is this.
The majority of the people, because you like to use a blanket statement, that's like me saying all black people are stupid.
Well, have you said all white people stupid?
No, I'm talking about that.
You should have said that one time talking about.
Because it's easy to say all black guys are stupid.
See, he took this literally.
Yeah.
He was just giving you an example of a blanket statement.
All black people are stupid.
That's just, he's giving you the example of a blanket statement.
Yeah, just to show you how ridiculous your statements are.
Yeah, he's not saying all black people are stupid, but you're taking it like he literally believes that.
He's just giving you an example of a blanket statement.
And he took offense to that because he thought he was talking down on black.
A lot of black people on the left, man, as soon as they hear black, man, it's like they're hypnotized.
And anything that comes after that, they don't understand or it goes over the head because everything's, they're so tribalistic when it comes about, when it, when it comes to race.
Yeah, exactly.
He just gave you an example of a blanket statement.
He's not trying to offend anybody.
Yeah, he's not trying to say black people are all stupid.
Yeah.
As an example, say something about the white people.
No, no, no, no.
You're not.
I don't think you're talking about.
You treat them all the time.
Well, I didn't hear you.
Can you tell me?
Talk about liberal.
I'm women literally being the biggest enemy of the United States of America.
That's the thing I say.
Every single person.
Okay, that's a female.
The biggest.
Literally white liberal women are the worst thing that ever happened to this country.
What about their men?
But we're going to get there because you keep trying to get me to qualify it by participating and joining in on the court.
No, I think you're doing what's easy.
No, I'm doing what's real.
I think you don't want to go against them.
Because if you go against them, it'll be some video of you going against them.
And when I say them, I'm talking about your boss.
See, they always resort to that.
Like, white people are our bosses because we're right-wing black people.
And you're conflating white people like they're all the same.
They're not.
You have progressives.
You have moderates.
You have liberals.
Yeah.
And you have conservatives, whites.
Black people, now, y'all all the same.
It's monolith.
90% of us vote Democrat.
That's why we're pretty much all the same.
But you're trying to say them white folks, like they're all the same.
They're not.
Yeah, like they're all evil.
Yeah, we, we, like, black conservatives, we trash white liberals every day.
Yeah.
Male and female.
Right.
I don't have a boss.
I don't.
We don't have to.
We say that.
We say that.
But here's the truth.
I don't have a boss.
It's a reason you go after black males or black people quicker than you will go after white males.
What are white males responsible for?
Well, black people, that low-hanging fruit.
It's so easy to criticize the black community because we're just, we're insufferable.
It's like as soon as I go to my feed, regardless of the social media platform I'm on, it's black people wilding and chimping out.
Yeah, black women just beating the hell out of each other, ripping each other's wigs off.
It's impossible to trash Chinese people or Asian people.
How easy it is to trash Asian people.
How often you see Asian people on social media just chimping out doing crazy stuff?
Yeah, it's impossible.
But black people, we make it easy.
It's so easy.
It's our culture.
And when we call it out, y'all call us Uncle Tom's.
Yeah.
No, I don't want that a part of my culture.
That's why we go after those people.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
In this country, that's the downfall of it.
I'm not a full accountability smoke giver.
I talk about everybody.
I'm just saying, I ain't heard you talk about white men.
You ain't been listening.
You ain't been listening.
I've been listening to you.
I just haven't.
You don't have the capacity to be able to listen because you're too busy.
No, You got to be wrong.
My computer.
My cousin that you just criticized, that's an opinion.
Here's the fact.
Have you seen something about Caucasian males and how they destroy this nation?
Well, what did I miss?
He's hung up on the whole race thing about white people.
Yeah.
Yeah, we criticize liberals.
Let's slow down because you're talking loud, but you're not saying a lot.
No, you talking loud.
And you still talking around what did the Caucasian male do to America to bring it down.
I'm not getting into that.
You dancing around it.
And that's why I lose respect for you when you start dancing and kissing Caucasian males.
But I don't.
Don't do that in front of me because I'm not a kisser of nobody.
Yes, you are.
You suck the people right now.
You doing the easy shit.
What you do, let me tell you what you do.
Let me tell you something, homie.
I ain't gonna tell you.
I don't tell you the easiest.
See, again, Anton, he used a metaphor.
He's talking a figure of speech.
Like Corey said that he kisses the butts, the ass of white men.
Yeah.
He was using a figure of speech metaphor.
And then when Anton turned around and used a metaphor to bash him to call him out of his name, now he's taking offense to it.
When he just did it to Anton, Corey, you initiated it.
You started it first.
You said he kissed the butt of white men.
Yeah.
He danced around things.
Yeah.
It's not true.
And that's something they always say about blacks who support the Republican Party.
That we kiss white people's butts, that we dance for the white man.
Yeah, we, yeah.
And another thing, before we get back to the video, you got to specify what white people you're talking about or you're referring to because he's talking about...
All whites are the same.
Now, from his point of view, from his point of view, from a Democrat point of view, they all the same, which is nuts because they're not.
Yeah.
You do.
So you're doing it right now.
I don't suck.
You're doing it right now.
Believe me when I tell you.
He took it literally.
He was fit for speech.
I don't do that.
Listen, listen.
So don't come at me with no.
I'm going to give you the same energy you give me.
Listen.
You hear what he said?
I'm going to give you the same energy you just gave me.
That's all he's doing is returning the favor.
You can dish it, but you can't take it.
Yeah.
I don't do no fucking shit.
I'm a man.
I don't do no fucking shit.
I don't give a f about nothing.
Well, I tell you what.
Watch that sucking shit because that'll go bad.
Call it what you want.
I don't do no fucking homes.
You're not saying a lot of shit that I don't with either.
You can't.
I don't give a fuck about it.
That gay shit on you.
I don't give a f ⁇ about what you talk about.
Hey, homie, I'll tell you what.
I'm right here.
Don't put no shit on me.
From Detroit.
Say I could get it.
I'm right here right now.
All right.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm going to respect you.
Dance around it.
Dance around.
I don't do no fucking shit.
I'm going to respect you because it's your platform and I flew out here to have a conversation.
We good, but you good.
You're bossing up on me.
We good.
I did it already.
I don't need a phone right down right now.
I'm going all back.
I don't give a homie.
You just running your mouth.
I'm not running my mouth.
I don't do that.
You're doing it for the internet.
Now, if you want to save your time.
No, no, hold on, hold on.
If you want to.
I show you I ain't doing it for the internet.
You want to say Anton.
I'm saying, don't disrespect me like that.
If you want to say Anton, don't disrespect me like that.
I'll respect you.
But don't boss up on me because you said a lot of shit to me today that I don't with either.
But I let that shit because you don't know me.
You don't know me.
So I'm going to extend the same respect to you.
You called me out of my name.
You said some wild shit, especially with regard to how would it call this.
But yeah.
He doesn't even remember that.
Because you're so heated.
You presented that figure of speech.
It was totally out of his name.
You disrespected Anton first.
You started all this.
When he used the exact same figure of speech, you got all pissed about it.
Yeah, man.
He needs NFL replay.
Yeah.
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But this is the problem we have with people on the left.
They feel disrespected.
They just not listening to what we're saying.
And they conflate a lot of things.
And a majority of the arguments are blanket statements.
It's so hard to have a decent conversation with these people.
Yeah.
It's next to impossible.
To you, you called me out of my name.
You said some wild shit, especially with regard to how they call this out his list.
I'm telling you that you did.
You can't tell me how I get your back.
I got a question for you.
No, no, no, no.
Hold on, one second.
Hold on.
We just getting loud.
I ain't getting loud.
Then now switch seats.
No, this is my show.
Just my show.
Okay.
Well, it is a threat if you're calling me dick sucking.
I don't listen.
Man, what you talking about.
If you want to get back to the conversation, because you ain't going to give a because you're not going to do me with that sucker.
You're not going to come to me with say I suck again.
We can call back right now.
Why do we have to say it again?
Yeah.
Why does he have he's already said it?
Why do he have to say it again?
Yeah.
Anton is asking.
Take it outside.
Let's take it outside.
The Black Republican Divide00:03:16
Let's see what happened now.
I bet you won't say that shit.
I bet you won't say it again.
This is like high school stuff.
Fred, I could tell Anton, he is about all that smoke.
This dude, I met Corey, he's a big dude, right?
Anton, that dude is, his voice is not quivering.
He's not shaking.
That dude is calm.
Well, Kevin, he's from the food.
He's a cube.
He's from Detroit.
He ain't seen it all.
Yeah, he didn't see it on.
Most men don't behave that the way Anton is.
Well, I think Anton realized he's just doing it for the internet.
He ain't gonna do nothing.
Yeah.
If somebody's really about that life, they already swinging.
I got money for all this.
Whatever.
I got money, too.
Don't nobody give a f ⁇ about this.
I ain't falling for the Darlene.
Get out the way.
Don't get in the way of two niggas.
Darlene, you need your head examined.
Why are you sitting between a liberal black and a conservative black?
You just asking for it.
Yeah.
That was funny.
Don't get in the way of if a white person said it's fracy, yeah.
I ain't got to go out back right now because we got to go out back to leaders.
But I'm saying that watch that.
That's all I'm saying.
And if I don't say it how you like it, if you want to get back to the conversation, we can get back to the conversation, but just know if you want to get back to the conversation, I believe you know this already.
You want to get back to the conversation, and I thoroughly enjoyed that.
That now, y'all, now this whole conversation like really epitomizes the difference between a black Republican and a black Democrat.
Yeah, yeah, direct opposites.
Yeah, one's rational, the other's irrational, one's sane.
Well, Corey's sane, he just has his biases and he lets it dictate how you think.
He's not listening because let me let me say this: when I sit down with somebody during black on our podcast, I don't, I'm walking in that conversation and I don't know anything.
I'm there trying to learn something.
I think if black people, the liberal black, took that rationale into every debate or every conversation they encountered with conservative blacks, you'll be a lot better off.
But the problem is, you don't listen.
Hey, Kelly, that is not realistic.
Because if he's all buddy-buddy with Fanton, man, he's an alien in his fan base.
He has to act like this.
If he don't, he's gonna say, you too, buddy, buddy, you too chummy with him.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a conflict of interest for him because black people, because that's politics.
Yeah, they're not rational.
Yeah.
That's his audience.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah.
Remember when we came out as Republican?
Yeah.
Lost half our fan base.
Gentrified our own audience.
Because black people, when it comes to politics, no, they're very tribal.