Megyn Kelly faces intense scrutiny over her description of Jeffrey Epstein as interested in "barely legal" individuals, a phrase critics argue falsely implies legality regarding minors under state consent ages like 16. The debate escalates into accusations of gaslighting and spreading "copium," contrasting Kelly's comments with Epstein's convictions for trafficking minors and possessing abuse material involving girls as young as 14. While acknowledging some victims were post-pubertal teenagers, the discussion highlights the nuance between legal age and the psychiatric definition of pedophilia, ultimately questioning the #MeToo movement's motives and the Senate's potential refusal to release Epstein files, which could erode public trust in government transparency. [Automatically generated summary]
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Was Epstein a Pedophile00:07:50
This person has told me from the start, years and years ago, that Jeffrey Epstein, in this person's view, was not a pedophile.
This is this person's view who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type.
Oh, that is interesting.
Oh, sorry, not interesting.
Gross, actually.
That's gross.
Why are you talking about this, Megan Kelly?
Furthermore, why do you have a show if this is what you're going to do with the show?
You're going to waste our time trying to convince us based on your anonymous buddy that Jeffrey Epstein, I mean, he had some interesting tastes, but he's not a pedophile or whatever.
That is what Megan Kelly is saying.
Also, that's not what barely legal means.
Barely legal means legal, but barely.
That's what I think she misspoke.
Yeah.
Because in some states, like here in the state of Nevada, the age of 16 is the legal age of consent.
Yeah.
So he was doing 14, 15, 16 year old.
So I understand where she was coming from.
Yeah, she's misspoke.
Yeah, but in some states, barely legal is 18.
Yeah, right.
So she totally misspoke when it came to this.
But he doesn't know the textbook definition of what a pedal is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll get to that.
We're going to correct him.
What those two words are.
There's a line, and you're on the legal side of the line, but barely.
Not on the illegal side.
And not even barely.
She's talking about people who are three years away from the age of consent being barely legal.
Yeah, most states, but most states, but some states are 16.
Yeah, yeah.
What have you been up to if that's your understanding of the law?
I know that like you're trying to help with some copium for your base and your audience captured by conspiracy theorists who don't care about pedophiles or whatever, but like what did you think about the words that are out?
The people on the right don't care about pedals?
Did he just say that?
Yeah.
Sounds like you're trying to spread copium to your fans.
Yeah, trying to pen to your base.
That's exactly what you're doing.
Is she coming out of your mouth?
But anyway, sorry.
It is ruined of me to interrupt.
She's desperately trying to maintain her audience in light of these new emails coming out and everything.
Let's hear her out.
She has a huge audience.
She said a maintainer audience.
She's huge on YouTube, SirisXM.
This woman is the epitome of big time.
She's had a maintainer audience.
Yeah.
So who's penned into whose base?
Yeah.
He's totally penned to gaslights.
Yeah.
See if she has a good case to make for Jeffrey Epstein not being a pedophile.
15-year-old girls.
And I realize this is disgusting.
I'm definitely not trying to make an excuse for this.
I'm just giving you facts.
That he wasn't into like eight-year-olds, but he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby.
And that is what I believed.
And that is what I reliably was told for many years.
And it wasn't until we heard from Pam Bondi that they had tens of thousands of videos of alleged, forgive me, they used to call it kiddie porn.
Now they call it child sexual abuse material on his computer that for the first time I thought, oh, no, he was an actual pedophile.
I mean, only a pedophile gets off on young children abuse videos.
I have to stop the video because he was convicted of trafficking minors and sexual minors.
Right.
Not prepubescent kids.
Right.
And if you don't know what the term prepubescent means, it means before puberty.
Yeah.
She's never clarified it.
I don't know whether it's true.
I have to be honest.
I don't really trust Pam Bondi's word on the Epstein matters anymore.
I don't either.
You can't because they totally flip-flop.
So why would you convict him of only trafficking minors and not get them for being the pedo?
You know what I'm saying?
So anything else?
Yeah, so I don't know what's true about him.
Why are they talking about this?
Like it's celebrity gossip or something like they're having an intellectual conversation.
I'm getting the uh feel of uh celebrity gossip when I watch you.
Yeah, your mannerisms, your voice, how you're um leading the direction you're taking your video in.
This is gossip what you're doing.
And let me share a fact, she has a better understanding of the law than you do.
Yeah, you don't know what a pedo is.
Yeah, I don't know.
Those Lily Allen revelations look pretty bad for David Harbor.
I mean, I don't know the guy, but i've always heard he's a bit of a sleazeback.
It's Jeffrey Epstein.
He's a pedophile.
Okay, this is the definition.
A perversion in which children are the preferred object.
A psychiatric disorder in which an adult has fantasies about, or engages in acts with, pre-pubescent children.
Yeah, so here's a psy that just came out right, and these are some of the Epstein victims, and just take it from them.
I was 14 years old, I was 16 years old 17, 14 years old.
This is me.
This was me.
This is me.
When I met Jeffrey Epstein yeah, teenage girls not pre-pubescent, they hit puberty right.
I remember when I was in sixth grade yeah, I was 12 years old.
I remember coming back from summer break, all the girls had tatas.
Yeah, that was a beautiful thing.
That's when I knew I was straight.
Yeah, but that's not pre-pubescent, right there.
No, of course not.
He wasn't a a pedophile, he wasn't.
It's unless there's evidence that was suppressed by these powerful politicians.
Right, who was his buddies?
Yeah, but look like he was in a young underage woman yeah, when I met Jeffrey Epstein.
There are about a thousand of us.
It's time to bring the secrets out of the shadows.
It's time to shine a light into the darkness.
Yeah, teenage girls right right, both disgusting yeah, but i'm not trying to justify his behavior.
I'm not doing that.
I know that's how you're gonna take your uh, how you see this, but that's not.
I'm just sticking with the facts.
I'm being objective.
Yeah these, these crimes he committed is much more nuanced than just that one term that people throwing around, and and so far, I haven't seen any evidence that would justify you.
Know that he was a pedophile?
Yeah, maybe it was, I don't know.
Yeah yeah, but like when the uh Me too movement started right, like I seen uh like uh, a lot of accusations from women who were just looking for clout, I felt like yeah, that's what it felt, like it didn't feel genuine.
Yeah right, I mean, there was some creeps that uh got busted right, but a lot of it I felt like it's just women looking for clout right, but these women right here, this is textbook case of what the Me too movement was all about.
It's known to be about, yeah exactly, and nobody's doing anything about it.
Right, makes you think that that whole Me too movement it was all bs.
Because this is, this is the epitome of what the me too movement should be about.
But nobody say anything, especially the Left.
Yeah.
Because Biden was in office four years and he didn't disclose anything.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure the House is going to vote overwhelmingly that, you know, release the Epstein files, but it's going to be up to the Senate to make the final decision.
And if they don't say yes, I'm going to, that's going to destroy my trust in our government.
The little trust I still have left.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I don't know why people's attacking her for that.
She misspoke.
Yeah, 15 is not barely legal.
Yeah, she's misspoke.
She's attacking her because she's a Republican.
Yeah.
I mean, the left, y'all came over these terms for these pedos.
What do you call them?
Maps?
Yeah.
Sexually attracted to minors or whatever.
Attack Before You Know Facts00:01:03
Right.
Y'all come up with these euphemisms for this people from the left.
But then you attack her for like stating the facts and she misspoke about what barely legal is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Obviously she meant 16.
Yeah.
When she said that.
Some states are 17, 16.
But here in Sin City, you only have to be 16 and a 50 year old could, which I find disgusting.
That is crazy.
Nevada has that law.
At 16?
Well, I was going to say something, but I ain't going to say it.
You stupid.
Yeah, so the people that's attacking her, she actually understands the law a lot more than you guys do.
I mean, people on the right are attacking her.
Yeah.
It's like people all up in feelings about learn the facts before you attack somebody.
Yeah, but that's the definition.
Pre-pubescent.
Yeah.
Kids, children, not teenagers that's already hit puberty.
Get your facts straight before you attack somebody.