Hodgetwins - Pastor Reveals Role Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson played in Charlie Kirk’s Death
Aired: 2025-10-19
Duration: 15:23


=== War Between Candace Owens And Turning Point (02:40) ===

[00:00:00]  Ah, what's happening?
[00:00:01]  Here's what I'd like to know.
[00:00:02]  In the land of Oz, the first thing we're going to look at, an in-depth look at the war between Candace Owens and Turning Point USA.
[00:00:11]  I'm going to do something tonight I've never done in five years.
[00:00:14]  I'm going to give airtime to Candace Owens.
[00:00:17]  I know, like I said, we're in the land of Oz.
[00:00:19]  While here, you have to listen to flying monkeys and wicked witches because that's what lives.
[00:00:28]  Yeah, I think that's one of his gimmicks of his show that he says we're living in a land of Oz where you have flying witches.
[00:00:35]  You say it all the time, flying monkeys and witches.
[00:00:39]  Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't use those words when I'm referring to when you're addressing a black woman.
[00:00:44]  Yeah, it's not.
[00:00:46]  That's like very racially insensitive.
[00:00:49]  Say those words, flying monkey and a witch.
[00:00:51]  Yeah, I wouldn't use that.
[00:00:53]  That's reckless.
[00:00:55]  Now, when Charlie Kirk passed away, or rather assassinated, I went public and tried to answer the question of why did Yahweh allow that?
[00:01:09]  We know that if God wants to stop a bullet, he can.
[00:01:12]  We have evidence of that from Butler, Pennsylvania.
[00:01:17]  But yet, so many questions as to why Yahweh allowed Charlie to be taken in the prime of his life.
[00:01:26]  Now, the answer I gave was not liked by a lot of people.
[00:01:31]  And I understand that because I was a huge Charlie Kirk fan and still am today.
[00:01:38]  I came to the microphone and I told you that Charlie was taken at a moment while he was still pure and still a friend to God's chosen people.
[00:01:54]  Now, some of you can jump now because you just had a knee-jerk reaction.
[00:01:57]  That's the problem with our society.
[00:01:58]  We won't listen to reason.
[00:02:00]  We just knee-jerk.
[00:02:02]  And that's what happened.
[00:02:04]  It just cringe every time I hear somebody say that, God's chosen people.
[00:02:07]  Anybody that follows Christianity and accept Lord, the Lord is their Savior, is God's chosen people.
[00:02:14]  These evangelicals think Jews are the chosen people.
[00:02:20]  It's like they're pushing supremacy of one group over another when we are all of God's chosen people.
[00:02:27]  Anybody doesn't follow Christianity or accept the Lord as their Savior, they're not God's chosen people.
[00:02:34]  So by definition, the people of Israel, are they God's chosen people?
[00:02:39]  If they follow Christianity, yes.

=== Evangelicals Pushing Jewish Supremacy (12:42) ===

[00:02:41]  Yes.
[00:02:41]  If they don't, they're not.
[00:02:43]  Yeah.
[00:02:44]  I mean, let's say he's correct.
[00:02:47]  Lord, send me straight to hell.
[00:02:48]  Right?
[00:02:49]  That doesn't sound like heaven, does it?
[00:02:51]  No, it sounds like pure hell to me.
[00:02:52]  Yeah, it sounds like what we have here on earth.
[00:02:55]  Right.
[00:02:56]  Certain groups of people, the rich, the famous, the celebrities, the people who know people, they get preferential treatment in today's society.
[00:03:03]  I don't think heaven is like here on earth.
[00:03:07]  And there's a group of people that get preferential treatment.
[00:03:10]  Yeah, I don't believe that.
[00:03:12]  And they take that verse out of context and they overlook the other 1,500 pages in the Bible.
[00:03:18]  It doesn't make any sense.
[00:03:19]  And the context.
[00:03:19]  It was said over 3,000 years ago.
[00:03:21]  I mean, a lot has changed since those words were, since he uttered those words.
[00:03:25]  Yeah, he was crucified.
[00:03:27]  Yeah.
[00:03:28]  By who?
[00:03:29]  Who had a hand in it?
[00:03:31]  Yeah.
[00:03:31]  Happened when I said that three weeks ago, however long it was, four weeks ago.
[00:03:36]  When I told you that I believe Yah allowed that because Charlie had such a Hebrew name for Jesus, right?
[00:03:44]  Yeah.
[00:03:45]  A voice of influence that if Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens had their way with Charlie, he would become the biggest anti-Israel influence in the world.
[00:03:59]  Now, when I said that, I had some inside information as why I felt like I could say that.
[00:04:04]  Now, you didn't know that then, but I had seen what now has been released to the world.
[00:04:10]  Now, as much as I cannot stand Candace Owens, not as a person, but she's just always mad at the world.
[00:04:16]  Let me take that back.
[00:04:17]  It's not that I can't stand her.
[00:04:18]  I just can't stand what she's for now.
[00:04:21]  No, you can't.
[00:04:21]  Let me clarify that.
[00:04:23]  Obviously.
[00:04:24]  Candace came out the day after his death stating what I had already said: that Charlie was changing from a pro-Israel supporter to an anti-Israel supporter.
[00:04:39]  Wait a minute, just because you're...
[00:04:41]  What?
[00:04:42]  If you're not pro-Israel, you're anti-Israel.
[00:04:44]  Yeah.
[00:04:45]  There's no in-between.
[00:04:47]  So if I criticize Israel, that automatically means I'm anti-Israel.
[00:04:50]  Exactly.
[00:04:52]  I don't think Charlie was anti-Israel.
[00:04:54]  He was anti-Jewish donors telling him how to run his organization.
[00:04:59]  They didn't want him to have Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens.
[00:05:04]  This is still Charlie Kirk's organization.
[00:05:06]  He built from the floor up, right?
[00:05:10]  It's still his organization.
[00:05:11]  But these billion-dollar Jewish donors was telling them what to do and what not to do.
[00:05:16]  And if you don't do it, I'm no longer giving money to your organization.
[00:05:19]  So that doesn't make him anti-Israel.
[00:05:22]  He's pro-Turning Point USA.
[00:05:24]  He still wants to be in charge of his organization.
[00:05:27]  He doesn't want billionaires running his organization and extorting him with money.
[00:05:33]  If he didn't want to bend the knee to Jewish donors, that doesn't make him anti-Israel.
[00:05:38]  Yeah.
[00:05:39]  Just makes him pro-Turning Point USA.
[00:05:42]  He decides how he wants to run his organization and he's not going to let money corrupt his soul.
[00:05:48]  Right.
[00:05:50]  Those Jewish donors is trying to compel him to take turning point in a direction that he wants to take.
[00:05:55]  If you want to have Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens there, that's his right to do so.
[00:05:59]  That's his prerogative.
[00:06:00]  Yeah.
[00:06:01]  That doesn't make him anti-Israel.
[00:06:03]  Yeah, that's nuts.
[00:06:06]  But people who are pro-Israel, that's the way they see it.
[00:06:09]  Just when you criticize Israel, they label you anti-Semitic.
[00:06:14]  Yeah, they're immune to criticism.
[00:06:16]  You can't criticize them if you do.
[00:06:19]  If you ask me, that's supremacy that he's pushing.
[00:06:21]  Yeah.
[00:06:21]  That one group is preferred over another.
[00:06:23]  That's supremacy.
[00:06:24]  And I think we all are God's chosen people so long as we accept the Lord as our savior.
[00:06:28]  Yeah.
[00:06:29]  We didn't want to hear that.
[00:06:31]  And for several weeks, people doubted me.
[00:06:33]  And Candace did the unthinkable.
[00:06:36]  You're doing unthinkable.
[00:06:37]  Turning point did not respond.
[00:06:40]  She dropped the receipts.
[00:06:43]  Text messages from Charlie Kirk in a group chat with all the Turning Point staff.
[00:06:50]  And one of the final messages, he said these words: I am going to take an anti-Israel stand.
[00:06:59]  He said that in the.
[00:07:01]  He didn't say that.
[00:07:02]  Yeah.
[00:07:03]  He wanted to take more of a, he wanted to take a different approach than what his Jewish donors is wanting to take.
[00:07:08]  That's what he meant by that.
[00:07:10]  But I still think, I don't think he was anti-Israel though.
[00:07:13]  This is it right here.
[00:07:15]  Leaving me because the Jewish donors are pressuring me.
[00:07:17]  Yeah, just lost another huge Jewish donor, $2 million a year, because we won't cancel Tucker.
[00:07:23]  Yeah, I'm thinking of inviting Candace.
[00:07:26]  Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes.
[00:07:28]  I cannot be bullied like this.
[00:07:30]  And look, Denny says, leave me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.
[00:07:34]  Just because you're not pro-Israel doesn't mean you're anti-Israel.
[00:07:37]  Yeah, and he didn't say that he was going to be anti-Israel.
[00:07:41]  He never said that.
[00:07:42]  Yeah.
[00:07:42]  But see, when you're pro-Israel and you see those text messages, you think it's anti-Israel.
[00:07:47]  You think the absolute worst.
[00:07:49]  Yeah.
[00:07:53]  See, that's exactly what he said right here.
[00:07:56]  Israel stand.
[00:07:59]  He said that in the text, confirming.
[00:08:01]  Take an anti-Israel stand.
[00:08:04]  He said, No pro-Israel stands.
[00:08:06]  He said that in the text, confirming what Candace Owens had said and what I had said may be the reason why Yahweh let him go while he was still untainted by these people.
[00:08:16]  That's crazy.
[00:08:17]  Well, he's implying that God took him for Israel.
[00:08:21]  Israel didn't do it, but God took him because he was going to have an anti-Israel sense.
[00:08:25]  That is, I think that's what you call blasphemy.
[00:08:29]  That's what you call roasting in hell, too.
[00:08:31]  Sacrilegi.
[00:08:32]  I want to play something she said.
[00:08:34]  And I'm going to break it down for you.
[00:08:36]  And I want you to listen very close because it's chilling.
[00:08:40]  You challenge Turning Point USA executives.
[00:08:41]  It's chilling, he said.
[00:08:42]  I think you're chilling.
[00:08:45]  He has the nerve to say Candace Owens is chilling.
[00:08:49]  Very clean statement saying that I'm lying.
[00:08:51]  This is not true.
[00:08:51]  About 48 hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informs people at Turning Points, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause.
[00:09:00]  Exactly what he said.
[00:09:01]  I saw that with my own eyes, but I knew it by the spirit.
[00:09:04]  I knew it in my heart before she released these texts.
[00:09:09]  Oh, come on, man.
[00:09:10]  This dude is this dude is a fraud.
[00:09:12]  He knew it because he's in line with the spirit.
[00:09:15]  That he said, I'm going to abandon my pro-Israel cause.
[00:09:20]  Outright, okay.
[00:09:21]  Charlie was done.
[00:09:22]  He said it explicitly that he refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors.
[00:09:26]  Can you guys answer?
[00:09:27]  Did he express that?
[00:09:28]  Did he also express that he wanted to bring me Candace Owens back because he was standing up for himself?
[00:09:33]  And he did say that.
[00:09:34]  He did say he was going to bring Candace back at his next event.
[00:09:40]  Now, no, Israel did not kill Charlie Kirk.
[00:09:42]  Satan did.
[00:09:45]  And God allowed it for reasons that we may never know.
[00:09:50]  But here's what I do know when I tell you something.
[00:09:53]  There is something I have had my finger on the pulse of this nation for five years.
[00:09:58]  I told you what the problem was.
[00:10:01]  They were turning him in.
[00:10:03]  Tucker and him were like this.
[00:10:05]  They were turning Charlie against God's chosen people.
[00:10:09]  And God said, no, not today.
[00:10:11]  No, You're too pure and you have too much influence.
[00:10:15]  So I'm going to bring you before Satan can use you.
[00:10:20]  I'm going to let your testimony for the rest of your life be all the positive things you have said about Israel that's on record.
[00:10:28]  See, now there are no videos of him except one where he started questioning Israel.
[00:10:31]  Everything else is all positive Israel.
[00:10:33]  And isn't that funny?
[00:10:34]  That's all that's left in the collective archive.
[00:10:37]  Listen.
[00:10:38]  So Israel didn't take him.
[00:10:40]  Israel didn't kill him.
[00:10:41]  God killed him for Israel.
[00:10:42]  Yeah.
[00:10:43]  But he, the words right out of his mouth, out of his mouth, he was still pure.
[00:10:48]  So why did God take him?
[00:10:49]  He was still pure.
[00:10:50]  If he's pure, you can't be corrupted.
[00:10:54]  That's crazy.
[00:10:55]  Just because you don't agree with everything Israel's taking part in doesn't mean you're necessarily anti-Israel.
[00:11:03]  He doesn't make any sense.
[00:11:05]  That's what you call blasphemy, right?
[00:11:08]  Well, a lot of other things.
[00:11:09]  Mentally crazy, schizophrenia.
[00:11:12]  I mean, you actually think.
[00:11:14]  He said he was still pure when he died.
[00:11:16]  So why take his life?
[00:11:17]  Because allowed Satan to take Charlie for Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens corrupted him?
[00:11:24]  Yeah.
[00:11:25]  But he was still pure.
[00:11:28]  That's crazy.
[00:11:31]  And he's trying to claim that, you know, since he's been taken away from us, that all the negative things he was said about Israel are gone.
[00:11:39]  No, they're not.
[00:11:39]  They're still archived.
[00:11:40]  You can still see videos where he's saying, hey, they're going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza in the West Bank.
[00:11:46]  Yeah.
[00:11:47]  Those videos are still out there.
[00:11:49]  These texts are still out there.
[00:11:51]  It's okay to criticize a group of people if you don't align, if it doesn't align with your faith or your beliefs in Christ.
[00:11:59]  It doesn't make you anti-Israel.
[00:12:02]  It makes you a good Christian in my book.
[00:12:05]  We're not beholden or indebted to nobody in Israel.
[00:12:10]  But our Lord and Savior.
[00:12:12]  That's it.
[00:12:13]  And when I hear people say God's chosen people, it's so cringe because either they're being intellectually dishonest or they're just a moron.
[00:12:25]  Because anybody that has read the Bible will understand we all are God's chosen people if we follow the word of Christ.
[00:12:32]  If you don't follow it, you're not.
[00:12:34]  That even means if you're Jewish.
[00:12:36]  If you don't follow the word of the Lord, you're not God's chosen people.
[00:12:40]  You're going to burn in hell, right?
[00:12:42]  It's crazy, man.
[00:12:45]  Yeah, I think he just got his $7,000 cha chain.
[00:12:49]  It gets deposited.
[00:12:51]  That is nuts.
[00:12:52]  So I guess Candace Owens is right.
[00:12:55]  What?
[00:12:56]  Israel was involved.
[00:12:58]  Yeah, but God did it for him.
[00:13:00]  Yeah.
[00:13:02]  This is.
[00:13:03]  That man is crazy.
[00:13:04]  That is nuts.
[00:13:05]  I've heard some conspiratorial things about Charlie's death, but I think this is actually the nuttiest thing I've ever heard.
[00:13:12]  I don't think God allowed, gave Donald Trump a pass in Butler, Pennsylvania.
[00:13:20]  When I heard Donald Trump say those things, I didn't agree with it.
[00:13:24]  When I heard Trump say God spared his life, well, some Christians believe that God spared him.
[00:13:29]  They spared his life, but the man that was in the audience, he took his.
[00:13:34]  Oh, here's his rally.
[00:13:37]  Yeah.
[00:13:37]  He actually covered his family so they wouldn't be unalive.
[00:13:41]  I was like, I don't think it works like that.
[00:13:46]  I don't think there's a group of people that's God's chosen that they have immunity.
[00:13:50]  They can do whatever they want.
[00:13:51]  I don't think he weighs a magic wand and he decides who lives and who dies.
[00:13:58]  I don't necessarily understand it, but I do believe in miracles.
[00:14:01]  I do believe that does happen.
[00:14:03]  But to say Trump was saved by God and he decided to take Charlie Kirk's life instead because of Israel.
[00:14:09]  That's just.
[00:14:11]  He implied about Trump.
[00:14:12]  He saved his life probably because he's pro-Israel.
[00:14:16]  So God allowed him to live so he can ball Moran.
[00:14:19]  Pretty much.
[00:14:19]  That's logic.
[00:14:20]  Yeah, I'm sure that figures into his logic, why he said what he said.
[00:14:24]  That's why he spared his life.
[00:14:27]  Yeah.
[00:14:28]  I guarantee you, that's why he said that.
[00:14:31]  Yeah, some of these evangelicals, some of these boomers, man, when you sit and listen to him speak, it's like...
[00:14:36]  It's cringe.
[00:14:37]  Man, just because you know the Bible and you read the Bible still doesn't make you a good person.
[00:14:42]  You got to be able to apply it.
[00:14:43]  You got the wherewithal, the brains, the capacity to understand what you read.
[00:14:47]  Yeah, to interpret what you're reading.
[00:14:49]  Yeah.
[00:14:49]  This man just said God took Charlie because of Turker, Tucker, Tucker Carlson, and Candace are Satan's disciples and it was going to corrupt him.
[00:15:00]  Yeah.
[00:15:00]  So I'm going to take him.
[00:15:02]  I'm going to send Satan to take him to protect Israel.
[00:15:05]  Yeah.
[00:15:05]  And he said, if you're not pro-Israel, you're anti-Israel.
[00:15:10]  It's like these people are above criticism.
[00:15:14]  That's supremacy he's preaching.
[00:15:17]  Yeah.
[00:15:17]  And he's using the Bible to push it.
[00:15:20]  Yeah, that's nuts.
[00:15:21]  Dude's going to turn into a pillar of