Stephen A. Smith faces intense backlash from figures like Willie D and Roland Martin after criticizing Representative Jasmine Crockett as a "caricature" and labeling her behavior as "black woman issues." While 96% of Black voters support Democrats, Smith argues his critique exposes tribalism within the community, dismissing polls comparing her to Obama as racially skewed. He defends his right to offer constructive criticism against what he sees as destructive internal dynamics, asserting that true respect requires accepting differing political viewpoints rather than demanding ideological conformity. Ultimately, this clash highlights a deep fracture between Smith's call for accountability and the community's demand for protective solidarity. [Automatically generated summary]
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Gaslighting and Caricatures00:09:18
He's in colleges.
I want to throw to one more example.
Someone who teeters on the edge quite a bit shows up talking out of both sides of his mouth.
He had this to say recently about Jasmine Crockett.
Sometimes you get attacked by your own.
Jasmine Crockett chooses to express herself.
I'm like, is that going to help your district in Texas?
Aren't you there to find a way to get stuff done as opposed to just being an impediment to what Trump wants?
How much work goes into that?
I'm just going to go off about Trump, cuss him out every chance I get, say the most derogatory, incendiary things imaginable, and that's my day's work.
That ain't work.
He's got to deal with black women issues.
Oh my God.
At large.
And whatever self-hate exists within him.
Stephen A. has black issue, black women issues, and he has a lot of self-hate.
They always say the same stuff over and over and over.
This guy, I recognize this guy.
Is that the guy that got caught in a hotel room with a couple of male prostitutes?
Twelve strippers.
Yeah.
While his wife and kids were at home, he was running for governor in Florida.
Right.
Yeah.
That's him.
I think that's him.
It looks like him.
That's got to be him.
Yeah.
But see, this is the one thing like the black community failed to realize.
What Jasmine Crockett say, it resonates in the black community.
They embrace it.
They love it.
But on the world stage, this woman looks like a buffoon.
Yeah.
You got to take also into consideration, just because it works in the black community doesn't mean it's going to resonate with everybody else.
Black people on a 96% clip vote for Democrats.
Yeah.
So, I mean, y'all love it, but it's weird because y'all don't realize how foolish she looks.
She looks like a caricature of a black woman.
All the racist stereotypes that black women have, she fits that mode.
See, solidifies it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And y'all are applauding her and praising her.
Yeah, but y'all are going to ridicule Stephen A. Smith for calling out her ghetto speech.
Yeah.
It's self-hate.
I've never seen a clip of him where he actually praises a black woman.
That's what I'm saying.
He's got black woman issues he's got to deal with.
That's stupid.
It's like, have y'all ever praised a black Republican?
I think y'all got black male issues.
Republican issues.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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For those who are listening, that was Stephen A. Smith commentating about Jasmine Crockett's lack of work.
For context, there was a poll that was recently done.
And Jasmine Crockett's approval numbers amongst the American people rival Barack Obama's in 2008.
That's crazy.
Y'all really dismissing the brilliance of Barack Obama.
Y'all comparing Jasmine Crockett to him?
You people are literally idiots.
Yeah.
And the poll, this poll, it's got to be, who did y'all poll?
I think you just polled black people.
Of course.
But they said the American public.
It's no way in hell Jasmine Crockett could poll on the numbers of Barack Hussein Obama.
Are you nuts?
He was a two-term president.
Yeah.
Won a popular vote.
You try to say Jasmine Crockett is on the same level as Barack Hussein Obama.
Are y'all foolish?
Yeah.
Jasmine Crockett only resonates with the hood rats in her district, unfortunately.
I'm shocked that y'all don't realize that, but that's a fact.
It's crazy.
So just for resonates with everybody, white, black, Latino, everybody.
Well, he didn't resonate with Republicans.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but he.
But look who he ran against.
McCain and Mitt Romney.
Yeah.
For context.
He is on an island unto himself because people, because people see her largely working on our behalf.
Are there black men that's listening to Stephen A. Bakar?
Yeah, of course.
I mean, but they would listen to that.
People who like white men.
Yeah, and they think that they like men.
They think that Jasmine Crockett talks with her negative.
No, I'm not saying that.
And she sings too loud and snaps her fingers and all that.
And they caricature her like he's doing.
She caricature her.
No, she did that to herself.
Yo, she did that to herself.
Yeah.
And so my point, though, is that, yeah, I didn't like the back and forth with Jasmine Crockett and Nancy Mace or whoever it was, right?
Nancy Mace is the one that got violent.
She was the one that said, let's take it outside.
I know them both.
Marjorie Taylor Green.
I know them both very well.
And I, you know, that just, because I was in the legislature.
So I look at that totally different.
However, I will tell you that there is a through line between the Ice Cubes and the Jason Whitlocks and the Stephen A. Smith.
And these individuals, and Ice Cube may be slightly different than the other two.
Slightly.
But these individuals have been around since we have been on this freedom struggle.
There have always been individuals out there which exhibit behaviors of charlatans who utilize, you know, some people are in it for the change and some people are in it for the change.
Right.
And I think that that's indicative.
And they found, they find the easiest path to the front of the line.
And Stephen A. Smith is someone who doesn't have the depth to talk about House oversight or the appropriations process, right?
But Jasmine Crockett does.
Yeah.
But Stephen's A's, Stephen A.'s criticism has nothing to do with that.
He's criticizing her about her appearance, her speech, how she presents herself.
He's not going into details how the House of Representatives work.
He's criticizing her behavior.
Yeah, her demeanor.
Yeah.
Y'all are deflecting away from that.
Yeah.
And how you're able to bring resources back to your community or what Jasmine is doing.
So he rather lampoon her instead of having a constructive conversation.
And so I just.
He did have a constructive conversation.
That was constructive criticism.
What y'all are doing is called gaslighting.
Yeah.
I've said what I've had to say about Stephen A. Smith in my book anywhere I can.
Wait a minute.
Did he just do a plug for his book?
Yeah, Grifting.
But they're going to call Stephen A. a grifter.
I don't have a lot of use for him in the political dialogue.
I think that, you know, I think that there are individuals who he matriculated with at Winston-Salem State University that are extremely disappointed about the man he's become.
It's so disheartening to me.
It's frustrating, one, because anytime we speak on this, it's like we, you know, man haters and all this.
But I feel such confidence in black men.
I've never bought into the idea that all these black men are voting for Trump.
Like they vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
We're pretty much in line with each other.
What you all are saying is no, they are, and the data shows that there have been inroads among black men.
I want to ask why, because it is frustrating to me and it feels heartbreaking to be honest.
The reason why?
Because y'all woke.
Y'all are far left progressive.
Your political ideology doesn't have any logic to it.
It's just insane.
You got a successful black man with a huge microphone criticizing another politician based on her behavior and how she speaks.
It's nothing more than that.
Y'all attacking him because he doesn't fall in line with what you guys agree agree with and agree on.
Yeah.
Black people think it's only one way to do things.
And if you don't go with that one way, you're a sellout.
You're a coon, you're an uncle Tom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they're totally.
That's what's wrong with you guys.
Yeah.
That's what's wrong with the black community.
Y'all think it's only one way to peel the banana.
It's a whole lot of ways you can peel that banana.
Really?
Yeah.
But from the bottom?
I was trying to talk metaphor.
You should have came with a different.
No, I mean, instead of banana, there's more than one way to peel a potato.
You could take a knife and do it, or you could go buy one of those new gaggers, man, and just skin it all at once.
It's more than one way to circumcise a penis.
Man, Kevin, shut up.
Because we are impacted by this system as well.
It's not a matter of who's impacted worse.
We're impacted differently.
We sit at the intersection of being black and being women.
And so when men are frustrated with this system, it feels like they fight us.
You know, and I would put Stephen A. Smith in that category, too.
Like, I'm mad at y'all for having joy.
I'm mad at y'all for having success.
I'm mad at y'all for surpassing us on college campuses.
And so it's a small sect of men that are so angry and hurt that they're willing to align with the people who oppress us.
But what am I getting wrong?
Because if you listen to Stephen A. Smith and you find anything other than some absolute pure, self-hating, little energy nonsense from that half-witted idiot basking in the non-existent rays of his own ignorance, it is sad to me that that is so juvenile.
Liberal Disrespect and Joy00:05:33
She used to be on the bus.
You're talking about the man's mushroom tips.
Yeah, she used to work for MSNBC.
She got fired.
Yeah.
The other woman that, you know, started a conversation initially from the beginning of the video.
She I've seen on CNN multiple times.
Yeah, yeah.
That guy, he ran as governor.
And the other guy, he's just, he's on CNN a lot too.
But anyway, did you hear that argument from her?
That's the typical mindset of a black woman, though.
That's why the years of 16 years.
Yeah, that's why 96% of them vote for Democrats.
That's just the way they see the world.
And that's why they think Stephen A is an idiot.
But anyway, Stephen A responds.
But before we get to the video, they continue to say that they're being oppressed.
And they keep pointing out the fact that they're black and she's a woman.
What difference does that make?
Yeah.
I don't get it.
Yeah, y'all don't look oppressed to me.
None of y'all look oppressed.
Yeah.
Now, if y'all was wearing, I mean, I ain't gonna even go there, but y'all look very well dressed.
Your hair is done.
You look nice.
Yeah.
The two women, the guys, I mean, y'all look fine.
Y'all don't like y'all just got out of the field from picking cotton.
Yeah.
I mean, y'all.
Yeah.
I just don't get it.
Yeah.
Nonsense from that half-witted idiot.
To endure this weekend where an abundance of people talking a whole lot of stuff about me because they did not like what I had to say about Representative Jasmine Crockett.
She is a Democrat out of Texas, Texas's 30th congressional district.
Her work, you know, and her verbiage and all of that stuff speaks for itself.
And she has become, you know, a big-time public figure in essence, not just as a representative, but speaking out on a plethora of issues involving the current administration in the White House, et cetera, et cetera.
And I made some noise last week because I had the temerity, the unmitigated gall to say this about Representative Crockett when talking about the state of our politics in the midst of a government shutdown, by the way, that has unfolded since October 1st.
Take a listen to what I had to say last week, please.
You, Jasmine Crockett, or somebody like that.
Ladies, I respect intelligent women, no doubt.
But however Jasmine Crockett chooses to express herself, I'm like, is that going to help your district of Texas?
Aren't you there to find a way to get stuff done as opposed to just being an impediment to what Trump wants?
How much work goes into that?
I'm just going to go off about Trump, cuss him out every chance I get, say the most derogatory, incendiary things imaginable, and that's my day's work.
That ain't work.
Work is saying, that's the man in power.
I know what his agenda is.
I'm not exactly in a position to stop him since the Republicans have the Senate and the House.
But maybe if I'm willing to work with this man, I might get something out of it for my constituency.
Because like Joe Manchin said, he's there to represent or was there for 15 years to represent the people of West Virginia.
If she did that, though, the Democrat Party would disown her.
Her constituents would disown her.
You're working with Trump?
No, we can't have that.
That's true.
Supposed to be there to represent the people of Texas.
I don't know.
Maybe that just sounds ignorant because it's so simple.
But it ain't that damn complicated.
We make it complicated.
Damn, it's frustrating.
You know what?
It really can be.
And all the verbiage and all the nonsense.
It is simple, but like you said, she's going to have to walk gingerly how she approaches the White House or how she works with the White House.
But I think she can get the job done.
She can kill two birds, one stone.
She can work for Trump.
And she can do things for the Democrats.
But it's got to show her constituents, look what I've done for you.
But right now, she's just too one-sided.
She's far too partisan.
Only thing I heard coming out of her mouth is what Trump is doing wrong.
She's not really trying to push any policies or change anything.
She just wants to trash Trump.
That does not work for a constituent.
But that's all she needs to do.
And everybody loves her, though.
That's what all she needs to do as a black woman.
Black people eat that up every day.
That's what I've heard over the last few days is why it can get exhausting.
Because nothing frustrates me more than when people have the truth at their disposal and they choose, maybe not lie, maybe not even embellish, but allow their emotions to usurp facts and all of a sudden want to use that as an excuse to label me as being something and doing something I'm neither not nor have I done, which in this case is disrespecting Representative Crockett out of Texas, who, by the way,
has had an invite to this show for weeks, by the way.
Governors Josh Apiro and Spencer Cox came on this show.
Yeah, but what he fails to understand from the black community, that is seen as being disrespectful, even though it is not disrespectful.
Yeah, you're just providing constructive criticism.
Right.
Yeah.
You cannot disrespect a black person.
You cannot criticize a black person as a black person or you're a sellout, your uncle Tom.
You can't do that.
And Stephen A. still does not understand that.
Yeah, he fails to realize, to acknowledge that the left is no longer typically the ordinary left that it used to be.
Constructive Criticism Clash00:07:08
It's way more progressive than liberal.
Stephen A. is a liberal.
Liberal and progressives do not get along.
Yeah.
A liberal get along far more easier with the Republican nowadays.
Yeah.
But your party is just too far left.
Senator Lindsey Graham came on this show.
Joe Manchin, now retired, came on this show.
Bill O'Reilly Bill Maher came on this show.
Okay.
And more are coming.
And she has an invite.
And AOC has an invite.
Hakeem Jeffries, Democratic House leader, he just was on this show.
I've invited Jasmine Crockett.
I have nothing but respect for her.
I just disagree on what she's making headlines for because I think it's counterproductive to the ultimate goal.
But yet here we are.
And the word disrespect comes in.
And people try to engage with words, you know, like disrespect and implying misogyny and all of this other nonsense.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Can we be grown-ups and deal with what the real issue is involving what I said?
Willie D?
No, they cannot.
You talking about black.
You talking about black people, man.
Black Democrats.
Yeah.
They only think a certain way.
There's only one way to peel a potato with these people.
The real issue is involving what I said?
Willie D, Roland Martin.
Willie D. Bakari Sellers and Angela Rye, who I have profound respect for.
Say he has to keep saying he has respect for these different black women.
Yeah, no matter what.
He doesn't know he's going to get attacked if he criticizes them.
Yeah.
I mean, the list goes on and on with all of these people.
I don't have their names in front of me to my producer that texted to me.
I don't have my phone on me right now.
So I apologize by not having those names in front of me.
But what are we talking about?
Well, you apologize.
How is it disrespectful to say what I said?
Could you just disagree?
Can we just say, yo, Stephen A, I disagree with you.
Here's why.
You're not going to do that.
You can't criticize them.
And maybe you're making a realization right now, Stephen A, that is black culture.
That's what you're clashing with.
Yeah.
They don't think, they don't behave, should I say it, like other races of people.
It's like too much, it's too much tribalism with white folks when it comes to politics.
Yeah, it's too much tribalism.
We got Willie D. Put up that quote, please.
He's putting out quotes or texts or tweets about me.
Let's see that again.
Stephen A. Smith taking shots at Jasmine Crockett ain't just messy.
It's weak.
Dude is sitting on one of the biggest mics in America.
And instead of using it to uplift, he's tearing down a black woman who's out here putting in real work.
That ain't critique.
That's betrayal.
Jasmine Crockett ain't the problem.
She's the kind of woman who walks in the rooms full of snakes and makes the snakes flinch.
Meanwhile, Stephen showing what happens when a paycheck gets louder than the principal.
That sucker, straight up.
End quote.
Wow, Willie D.
But that's the black community.
That's how they see you, Stephen A. Smith.
That's black culture.
That is black culture you're clashing up against.
They ain't trying to hear no constructive criticism.
Yep.
The more you realize that, the better you'll be able to facilitate the process of having her on your show.
If you get in line, maybe she'll come on your show.
But coming, Jasmine Crockett, for her to come on your show serves her no purpose at all, but make her look stupid.
Yeah, because you're going to make her look stupid.
Yeah.
Without even trying.
Yeah.
You sure are uplifting.
I mean, I got to be touched.
That was inspirational.
That really, really was.
That was inspirational.
I'm doing sucker shit.
That's what you call inspirational?
That's what you call uplifting?
Really?
Yeah.
Not having heard everything that Roland Martin said, D.L. Hughley had to say, and all the other names that I've mentioned, but I'm sure it's along the same lines.
Nothing but respect.
First of all, I'm going to be very, very careful about anything that I say about Roland Martin because he's a friend.
I'm going to be careful about anything that I say about D.L. Hughley because I have respect for that man.
You know, I don't even think they have respect.
Why do you have respect for them?
They obviously don't have respect for you.
Why do you keep kissing up to these people?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He wants to be, he doesn't want to be, what's the word I'm looking for?
He just wants to be an outcast from the black.
He don't want to be sent out of the pride line.
Yeah, but you're already halfway there.
Yeah.
You pretty much already thrown out of the problem.
You're just being impartial.
Yeah.
You're not even being parsing.
You calling it out like it is.
Everybody's saying that about Jasmine Crockett.
She is ghetto.
Yeah.
Spoken a few months ago.
I got nothing but love for him.
I am concerned about him not making people laugh and smile as much anymore as he used to because he's more of an activist now than a comedian, but that's a choice and that's his right.
Let me tell you something about D.L. Hughley.
He knows a coon when he sees one.
I'm joking because he calls us that.
And that's more or less how he sees you.
Yeah.
The more I hear him, you need to pick aside, really, because you're doing too much flip-flopping.
Well, he's not even flip-flopping.
He's just been...
Yeah, he's been flip-flopping his whole show.
You keep saying you have respect for Jasmine Crockett.
What has she done to earn any respect from anybody politically?
Yeah.
But respect if Dale Hegley did.
He's a comedian.
But what has he done to earn respect when it comes to politics?
If he's out here calling you all these names, why do you have so much respect for them?
It goes both ways.
You give respect, but they're not giving you that same respect in return.
Yeah, he's trying to...
Well, he's Stephen's got an allegiance to the black community, loyalty to the black community.
Yeah.
And he just doesn't want to.
I don't know.
I mean, I have allegiance to all communities.
No, you don't.
What do you mean?
I have allegiance to what's right and to what's right.
I could give a damn.
Well, that's what color is.
Well, that's what I meant.
I have no allegiance to the black community because how they see the world and the things they say and how they carry themselves, they're destructive, detrimental to our communities.
Not only when it comes to politics, but society as a whole.
We're not even willing to call out our own community.
He offers constructive criticism of how she is conveying her message.
And y'all attack him and attack his pee-pee size and call him out his name like Uncle Tom's and all this.
It's just stupid.
Only group of people to do that is black folks.
And that's why we're the lowest of the totem pole.
We have a, there is a wage gap between black and white, but there's also a wage gap between black and everybody else.
And it's because the way we think, how we see the world, we're just flawed.