Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens debate race and IQ, arguing Black Americans differ intrinsically from Sub-Saharan Africans due to historical eugenic effects post-emancipation. Fuentes claims low IQ is genetic, asserting two low-IQ parents rarely produce high-IQ children, while attributing athletic prowess to inherent racial traits rather than culture. He explicitly distinguishes Egypt as a separate race and labels certain African practices barbaric, maintaining that immutable biological characteristics dictate behavior and intelligence across generations. Ultimately, the exchange reinforces controversial narratives linking race to fixed genetic hierarchies. [Automatically generated summary]
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Ancient Egypt vs Sub-Saharan Africa00:06:31
So I'm trying to understand if you're actually you think that it's all black people are like this or if your world is kind of colored by this is what's going on in America this has failed for a thousand reasons welfarism has definitely I mean black people in 1940s stand up my grandfather I talk about that denigration and the corrosion of culture that's happening white black whatever you want to name it there is this intentional corrosion of culture So do you think it's literally, well, this is just what a black person is when they come out?
Or do you think that post welfare, LBJ, great society, this is what black Americans have become?
And I have a right to respond to that and say that as a white man, I don't want to live there.
Well, you know, I think it's more nature than people would like to believe.
You know, there's this classic tension of is it nature, is it nurture?
Is it cultural or is it intrinsic?
Is it racial?
And I've always been on the latter side of this among conservatives.
Conservatives like to say it's it's all culture.
Black America is the way it is because of hip-hop music and the great society and that kind of stuff.
And I think the uncomfortable reality is a big part of it is intrinsic.
You know, one of the big arguments against the abolition of slavery in the 1860s is that, you know, when Europeans colonized Africa, they hadn't discovered the wheel.
There's no two-story buildings.
That's crazy.
No wheel?
No two-story buildings?
I wonder if they had fire.
No, fire would have got dark because all you could see was eyes and teeth.
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So if they didn't have a wheel, I know they didn't have no fire.
No, they couldn't.
If they don't have two-story buildings, think they advanced enough to spark flames.
There's no writing.
There's no written language.
Missionaries had to go to Africa in the last century and invent it for the that's crazy.
No written language, no writing.
Hey, can't they see a girl?
Maybe they use, maybe there's more advanced.
Maybe they got no language.
Maybe they had telepathy.
They could read each other's minds.
But some of them got some big foreheads in there.
Maybe they got some telepathy going.
Yeah.
African people, because there's no recorded history.
They didn't have writing.
So Egypt is not in Africa.
Well, Egypt is a different race.
You know what?
A lot of people think all of Africa is nothing but sub-Saharan Black folks.
But it's a continent.
Yeah.
Sub-Saharan below the Sahara in Africa is primarily Negroes.
Yeah, my people.
Well, 50% of me, yeah.
But off of the Sahara, it's more Arabic.
Like these are Egyptian girls.
I never say that.
I speak Arabic.
No.
La la la Zalon, no.
I speak English.
You speak English.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
I love America.
Oh, thank you.
We love Egypt.
We love Egypt.
My name is Lisa.
Lisa.
What's your name?
You're going to post from the picture with us?
I speak Arabic.
You do very good English.
Hi.
And there's black people.
Well, we label them as black here in America that have that sin, that skin tone, but they're actually mixed.
They're biracial.
Most of them are biracial.
Yeah.
Like, it's not common to see like us in Africa and sub-Saharan unless we let somebody, unless some white dude, like, I keep they get it, penetrated a sub-Saharan woman and just made these abominations.
Like, you know, white supremacist.
Oh, man, look at that.
I'd seen it all.
I've seen a couple of Negros with blue eyes walking around with the Velcro ass.
Yeah, but Northern Africa, it's still in Africa.
Yeah, but it's they're totally different race of people.
Yeah.
Totally different race.
It's like night and day, literally.
Egyptians were not black.
Okay, but you said when they went to Africa, so I just want to the interior of Africa in the late 19th century.
Scramble craft.
So we're now knocking Egypt out of Africa.
Well, Egypt is part of northern Africa.
Sub-Saharan Africa.
You said Africa.
So I'm being...
But I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to get a gotcha.
I'm just responding.
You're saying Africa.
It's in Africa.
It's Egypt.
It's kind of ridiculous to say there was no written language.
I'm just trying to get you to Egyptians are not Africans.
I'm not pushing back the internet.
Well, you know.
Egyptians are not racial Africans.
When I say African, I'm saying sub-Saharan African.
Sub-Saharan Black people.
Yeah, because it is a different race.
In Sub-Saharan Africa, and we didn't, Europeans did not penetrate that until late 19th century.
They didn't have any of this.
To the extent that you have infrastructure in Africa, it's from the Muslims in the Sahel and the Maghreb in northern Africa, where the Arabs colonized.
And then you had, you know, Carthage and Egypt.
You had ancient civilizations, but sub-Saharan Africa, they didn't have that.
You take these people out of that land and put them here, and they're enslaved people.
You let them free in a modern, liberal republic.
They're not going to succeed.
It's not going to go well for them.
And that was one of the arguments against abolition.
People said if you free them without any assimilation, without any kind of process for them to be acclimated, they're going to die.
And that's exactly what happened.
Many of like the bottom 10% of like the lowest IQ Africans just died off for generations.
And it had a, you know, pardon the expression, but it had a eugenic effect because over time, if the weakest are dying off, that's one argument for why blacks in America have a standard deviation higher IQ than the blacks in sub-Saharan Africa.
Race, IQ, and Inherent Traits00:07:35
So, you know, so I do believe there is something intrinsic going on there.
And what makes...
Well, I think so too.
Like you could go to Africa and some parts of Africa and you could see them living.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like I'm not going to call them savages, but they are.
They're savages.
Yeah.
They're walking around like the women are like naked.
Their boobs are hanging.
They put big bowls of water on their head and put, I forget the term.
They have these weird piercings and scars all over their faces.
It's barbaric.
And I've seen this one dude pick a plate and stick it in his lip.
Yeah, they're sticking the plate.
And they got bones in their nose.
Yep.
Well, but in that movie, Wakanda, what's that?
Black Panther.
Black Panther, right?
In that movie, they put it in there.
It was some dude sitting there with a plate just sitting in the bottom of his lip, just hanging.
Dude, like a duck-billed platypus.
Yeah, that's not culture.
That's intrinsic.
Well, culture.
Well, where does culture come from?
Your mindset.
Yeah.
So you cannot say it's just culture.
Yeah.
It's not culture.
I think you're born the way you are.
Like you're born straight.
You're born like this.
You're born fast.
You're born slow.
You're born stupid.
I think I'm born stupid.
Well, just look at black people.
Every time, who wins a hundred-meter race?
Every time it's a black person, that's intrinsic.
Right.
You know, right.
We both have things that we excel at.
Not to say, not to put everybody in a box.
There's some very fast white people.
I'm not saying all white people are slow.
It's just inherently we are intrinsically, we are born a certain way based on our race.
And I think you're born a murderer.
I think you're born a person who will force himself on a woman because I don't have that in me.
I could never force myself on a woman, but some people can.
Why?
Because you're born that way, I think personally.
Yeah.
And they're still living like that to this day in Africa.
Yeah.
It's wild.
People are uncomfortable about this is the idea that it's unchangeable.
There's something about, and this is why I'm a Catholic.
We do have an inherent desire for universalism.
We do believe that there's a common humanity and a common human community and all of that.
We hate the idea that we're born a certain way and we can never change.
And that's just the way it is.
And we even think about this in terms of, you know, it's become not so popular these days to tell children, you can be whatever you want to be.
Because we know that's not the case.
You know, some people are tall, some people are short.
Some people are smart, some dumb.
Some ugly, some handsome.
That's why, by the way, you know, incel dumb is a big part of this also.
So you believe these are immutable characteristics that are assigned at birth?
I think that, yes, for the most part.
Things like race, all those attributes are immutable and unchangeable.
And they have changed, just factually speaking.
They have changed.
They change over time over the generations.
Okay.
So then you don't think it's immutable because if it was, if this was an immutable character, individual person.
Okay.
So you're saying that if you are born at this space in time as a black person in America, here is the cards that you're dealt with and you can't change that over time.
Something like IQ does not change.
It can't doesn't change wildly.
It only changes genetically over IQ is a big one and that changes.
That's a genetic trait.
And so that can change over the generations, but not you can't take an individual that's 75 IQ, which is the average in West Africa, and take them to 100.
So two dumb people can't produce a smart person.
I believe they can, actually.
I've seen two short people and their kids seven foot tall playing basketball.
You ain't never seen that.
Yeah, hell, she's stuffing.
I forget the name of the basketball player.
Keith, there's such thing as a miracle sometimes.
You could have two dumb people and have an Einstein.
It's not typical.
It's not going to happen all the time.
It's going to happen.
It's like once out of every blue man, you got a better chance of getting struck by lightning, but it does happen.
Like I've seen two black people have a white baby.
I've seen two white people have a black baby.
Let's call it defect.
It's crazy.
Now, we've had conversations with Nick.
He doesn't think all black people are stupid.
He just thinks has low IQ.
He just believes that blacks compared to all other races, there's it's more widespread.
Laura.
It's more prevalent.
There's some Einstein black people, very, very high IQ, but more on average, you find more low IQ people.
You find low IQ people in all races.
Yeah, but it's more prevalent in Sub-Saharan.
Yeah.
What else we got?
But so does that kind of debunk your so two dumb people can't produce a smart person?
I believe they can, actually.
Yeah.
But so does that kind of debunk your no, because that's it's rare that that happens, but IQ is a heritable trait.
So it's unlikely that that happens.
Yeah, this dude's all about honesty.
People ain't ready for all that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like Nick.
Nick's a good dude.
I think he's so misunderstood.
Yeah, you find low IQ people, white people.
I mean, it's just more prevalent in certain demographics of people.
There's no denying that.
We have the test scores.
You know?
Yeah, they did an IQ test on races and blacks scored the worst.
Yeah.
There's the bottom of the barrel.
But I'm pretty sure there was the highest when it comes to physical feats.
I mean, look at professional, look at football.
Look at boxing.
Look at all the sports.
Yeah, all the speed and power typically is a black person.
Not saying white people can't be fast and be powerful.
It's just more prevalent when it comes to.
You don't think it's that black people apply themselves more in sports and white people like, no, I'm going to go to school and make something out of myself.
I'm not going to rely on sports.
Do you think it has anything to do with that?
No, I don't think so.
Because when you look at the Olympics, I think there's certain cases if they're put in the right environment, they would excel.
Yeah, because I knew better.
I knew a couple white boys in school, man.
There was some dudes could run and jump.
Yeah.
Wasn't even in sports.
Went out there and was on a trip.
I had a friend.
I could launch up like 20, 21 and a half, 22 feet.
He just went out there and just long jumped 19 feet.
5'8, fat white boy.
He wasn't fat.
He was chubby.
He wasn't cut.
He wasn't ripped like I was.
If he'd applied himself, that dead white boy could have probably jumped 24 feet.
He's not chubby.
Keith.
He was just your run-of-the-mill white boy.
He wasn't fat.
He was just average size.
He was not fat at all.
What are you talking about?
That dude has some skinny legs on him, too.
Keith, I'm talking about his midsection.
Okay, he had a little gut action.
Okay.
He wasn't fat.
It was just, he had like a little spare tie around his waist.
A small one.
Then that one white dude, basketball dude, could jump.