Hodgetwins erupts after CNN cuts to commercials when Anna Navarro compares illegal immigrants to enslaved Black people, a comparison the host aggressively rejects as historically false. The debate centers on El Salvador rejecting Kilmar Obrego Garcia's return, with Navarro claiming he was wrongly sent to a "MAGA prison" while the host argues deporting him violates the President's mandate despite lacking court evidence of MS-13 membership. Navarro accuses the host of gaslighting regarding her comparison, but the segment concludes by accusing Democrats of using undocumented immigrants for census-based political gain, framing the conflict as a clash between constitutional law and liberal hypocrisy. [Automatically generated summary]
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CNN Turns Into Race War00:01:29
Yeah, I got a new show for y'all.
Got a damn good show.
Anna Navarro, this woman is brain dead, stupid, dumb.
Yeah, and retarded.
And Jesus warned us about women.
That's why that's the first story in the Bible, man.
Garden of Eden.
One woman destroyed everything.
She doesn't represent all women.
Oh, yeah, she does.
That's a good replication of women.
There's a few exceptions.
But a majority of women are kind of like...
Hey, Keith, women put men in the bathroom.
Don't deny it.
But that's a lot of good women out there.
It's a lot of good damn women.
But a majority of them are crazy.
Yes, the conservative woman of cool.
Yeah, the conservative women are cool.
And sometimes you can't trust them.
Look at that Amy Coney Bird.
Yeah.
She's always voting liberal.
All right.
But anyway, this episode on CNN turned into a race war.
And they had to cut the commercial break.
And I know I became a race war because of that woman right there.
Yeah.
Okay.
Watch this.
This is nuts.
Breaking news.
CNN learning that El Salvador has rejected the Trump administration's request to return Kilmar Obrego Garcia.
That is a man who was mistakenly deported to a notorious mega prison over on Montana.
Mega prison.
MAGA prison?
CNN, they just released ratings for the top 25 news shows.
Immigrants vs Black People00:12:06
Yeah.
CNN doesn't have no shows in the top 25.
That's, I believe it, like the majority of them are, all of them are Fox News, and then there's a couple of MSNBC shows.
But CNN has no shows in the top 25.
And that's why she's calling that prison in El Salvador MAGA prison.
Yeah.
Stupid.
All right, let's get this beyond stupid.
Yeah.
Maryland to El Salvador.
Number one, the children that you mentioned were not deported.
They went with their mothers.
Their mothers requested that the children come with them.
So their mothers were deported because they were illegal aliens.
And so to go through that.
They went.
So there's really two choices here.
Split the family or keep the family together.
The U.S. government's policy here was to let the mothers decide the mothers decided to take the children.
That's number one.
On the Garcia case, effectively what you all are arguing for, passionately, and what Democrats are passionately arguing for, is for the President of the United States to re-import a dangerous member of a transnational terrorist organization who has clear affiliations with a gang that commits heinous atrocities.
That is not what he was elected to do.
And whether you bring him back here or not, I'm just going to explain to you the politics of this through telling you what the Speaker of the House, Hakeem Jeffries, did today, which is that he told his members, please, for the love of God, stop going to El Salvador and dying on this hill.
The politics of this could not be worse for the left and worse for Democrats because the president knows he was elected to protect us from MS-13 and that is what they are doing.
What do you say about the tattoos?
I say that the treatment is not.
Wait, are you saying the MS-13 that Donald Trump claims are legitimate tattoos on this guy are true?
Are you saying the Photoshop?
Are you a tattoo truther?
I mean, I don't understand.
Wait, are you a Photoshop denier?
Come on, come on.
Hold on.
Yeah, we are getting away from the issue.
Okay, this is the thing.
Yeah.
MS-13, that's Photoshop to explain what those symbols stand for.
Yeah.
Like, no gang member is going to walk around and say, in tattoo, I'm a gang member.
It's supposed to be, you know, disguised as something else.
It's supposed to be a symbol.
You don't want to incriminate yourself with your tattoos.
Yeah.
So this right here, this M S and one, that's Photoshop, but it's to signify what these symbols stand for.
Right.
Scott, the picture of his knuckles does not say MS-13.
It has symbols.
Okay, yeah.
Let me just explain to people.
That has not been full any.
So she's trying to explain this away.
Yeah.
Either, Scott.
I mean, one of the things he has to say is they have not said so.
Let me just explain to people what we're talking about here.
There are symbols on his knuckles.
None of them say MS-13.
However, this administration has decided that they symbolize something related to MS-13, which is disputed by a lot of people.
Not disputed, gang advocates.
Yes, I am going to move on.
No, no, no, no.
Hold on.
We always have to play this game of interrupting people when they're talking.
What is the point of me being on the show if I can never finish my freaking point?
Because this is getting really annoying, Abby.
Hold on.
Everyone else has made their statements.
He has to say anything.
Hold on a second, okay?
I mean, Jesus.
Hold on.
Why are you so angry?
Because I have to say something.
I have a point of view everybody.
Hang on just one second.
Sure, Michael.
Let me ask you a question.
The question is, has the government presented evidence in court that Abrego Garcia is a member of MSPA?
And the answer is no.
That has not happened in court.
But it doesn't mean that they have not made those claims publicly.
It doesn't mean that those claims are not.
He's so long-winded.
We get it.
Let him talk.
Right.
It's got to be frustrating.
I bet he won't let you scream on it.
So, in 2019, it doesn't mean that they're not in police reports.
They're just not statements that were made.
In 2019, the immigration judge at the time believed the Prince George's County Gang Unit and the evidence that they presented before that judge at the time that Mr. Garcia did indeed belong to a gang.
This is not my opinion.
People can Google this crap.
They can Google this.
CPS reported on this.
If the judge believes it in 2019, is it now all of a sudden not true?
I acknowledge that.
Hold on, hold on.
But the point remains that a judge found the evidence to be credible that Mr. Garcia did indeed belong to a gang.
So now all of a sudden we're just not going to believe judges.
We can't have it both ways.
I don't want to go too far down this rabbit hole, but my only point is that the government has not presented beyond the police report, they've not actually presented the evidence to prove that he belonged to this.
So police reports are not all considered evidence before a court of law.
Police reports.
Do judges not yeah, this is all a moot point.
He's in the country legally.
Goodbye.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is just a distraction.
Yeah, it's a moot point.
What do we say?
Sure, Michael, what is what was the original?
I want to release it.
I actually want to hear this.
It absolutely is relevant to the argument from the administration, which is that Mr. Garcia belonged to a gang.
That's one of the reasons of deporting him out of the country.
But did you guys understand there's no truth to it?
That's not facts.
That's not true.
But the idea that Mr. Garcia's past doesn't matter is ludicrous.
But here's what I'm saying.
We have a sovereign nation.
And this idea that we can just come back to our country.
Hold on a Scott, I'll let you go.
It's absurd to me.
If Democrats want to die on this hill, I promise you you'll regret it politically.
So go right ahead.
Go more process for America.
Go ahead.
We don't want people breaking our laws, coming into our country.
Let me let Scott have a word and then we'll talk.
It seems to me that the political analysis of this, though, is, and a lot of average people are looking at it this way.
Why is it that we can let 20 million people into the country just walk across whatever?
And there's no real process for them to do that.
But then we have to individually pick out every single person and go through years upon years upon years of paperwork and this and that and the other.
And all we're trying to do is send them back to where they came from because they came here illegally in the first place.
Yeah, they're just trying to make it as difficult as possible for Trump to meet his goals and what he's trying to do.
It's one of the easiest possible for them to come in and as most difficult as possible before, you know, kicking them out.
And you know why, right?
Because these people are counting on that census.
And those census determine how many representatives each state gets.
That's why Democrats are fighting so hard for these illegal pieces of trash.
They say if you deported all of the illegals in this country, Democrats would lose 15 seats in the House.
Yeah.
I think it's higher.
Bare minimum.
It's 15 to 20 seats.
20 million in with no process.
How do you get 20 million out with years and years of people fighting every single case?
You don't.
But the reality is the crisis that put Donald Trump in the White House was caused over years and years and years of neglect and letting people walk into here without any process at all.
And now you're trying to get a lot of motherworks to keep them here.
A lot of women came in.
A lot of them came in with parole.
A lot of them came in.
And polling shows 54% of Americans want Mr. November calling.
Do you hear this dumb poll he just mentioned?
What did he say?
There's a poll that 54% of Americans want that MS-13 gay member back in the country.
What poll is that?
It's some CNN poll.
Like I said, nobody watches CNN.
Nobody with a brain will believe that.
Yeah, you're not a credible news station.
You're not a credible news outlet.
That's why the top 25 shows in America, CNN has none.
Zero.
And this fool's quoting that poll.
Up on the elect CNN, Pollington.
November sovereign nation, and you cannot just come into our country illegally whenever the heck you want because we can't do it to any other country on the planet.
If you come in illegally, you have to leave.
Americans are titled that.
We do not have unlimited rights.
You know who was here illegally with a deportation order?
Marco Rubio's grandfather.
All right.
Let's not talk about that.
Oh, now we're not.
Now that's not relevant.
It's not relevant.
No, I'm talking about Marco Rubio because Marco Rubio used to be an advocate for TPS for Venice Williams.
And Marco Rubio used to be an advocate for Nicaragua until your moment.
No, I know you're not.
You are going home.
Simple as that.
We do not have unlimited.
I think a lot of Americans take care of other people.
There's a hell of a lot of universities.
Other than the black people who were brought here as slaves who came to this country illegally.
There are a lot of immigrants.
What?
She comparing illegal immigrants to slavery.
Yeah, she called black people that came here as slaves as illegal immigrants.
I wouldn't label them illegal immigrants.
They're slaves.
They've been kidnapped.
They've been purchased as property.
I would not call them illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants is when you come into a country and you decide to live there illegally.
Slaves came here against their will.
Why would you even bring that up?
Yeah.
Why would you even make that comparison, Kate?
You know why?
Because she's a woman.
Same as black people who were brought here against the country.
That's exactly what I should say.
I said black people who were brought here as slaves who came to this country illegally.
They're not same as black people who were brought here against the people.
That's exactly what I should say.
I said there is a lot of people who are borderline.
There is a big difference in that.
That's what I just said.
You can act indignant.
That's okay.
Let me just tell you.
Look how childish she is.
Yeah, that's the typical woman.
There are a lot of people from Sherbonny.
I think you actually misheard what she misheard what she said.
Did you hear what she said?
I think you misheard what she said.
Nobody misheard what she said.
Yeah, she compared slavery.
She said slaves are the same as illegal immigrants.
They're totally not the same.
Yeah.
That gaslight them said you misheard what she said.
They've said that repeatedly over and over during this interview.
They say I think you misheard her.
No, y'all misinterpreting everything that he is saying and what he and and it and what she is saying I think you misheard what she said.
No, he's purchasing.
She said so.
Now you're in my share Michael, listen to me, for is that where we're going to black people my entire life, something like that, because you've advocated for black animals, congratulations.
Last time I checked, I'm black.
You're not okay, Sherman.
That's like I'm Latino and my people are being racially profiled.
It is no, I don't know the history we're gonna go to break.
Raul Reyes, thank you very much for joining us.
Everybody else, my entire race.
When I was studying history, like To Touch history he said, our people's been racially profiled.
Well, that's what happens when 20 million people come here legally from below the Mexico border.
Exactly what did they look like?
Yeah, of course they're gonna racially profile you.
Yeah, when people fly planes in the buildings, those people are gonna get racially profiled.
Exactly when I, when my people grab a bunch of people's purses and rob them, they're gonna racially profile me.
It's just human nature.
Yeah, that's how it works.
Like they don't racially profile other people.
Yeah um, that's like one of the craziest Craziest episodes I've ever seen on CNN.
Yeah.
Those three, those two Nimrods beside the intelligent, handsome black man, they actually think they're fighting for the Constitution when these people walked around our Constitution, didn't abide by immigration laws.
Then you're going to use the Constitution, protect those same people that doesn't even care about our Constitution?