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Aug. 16, 2023 - Hodgetwins
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Our Thoughts On The Alabama Melee..

Hodgetwins dissect the Montgomery, Alabama melee, debating whether a security guard's thrown hat signaled a "black southern" call for backup or merely escalated a drunken brawl. They analyze conflicting accounts of a Black man swimming to intervene and another striking a white woman with a chair, questioning if racial dynamics drove ticket sales or if alcohol provided the attackers' courage. Ultimately, the hosts express skepticism about proving systemic racism in this specific chaos, noting that while racist individuals exist, definitive proof remains elusive amidst the conflicting narratives of self-defense and retribution. [Automatically generated summary]

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Montgomery Boat Incident 00:11:16
Yeah, I got a new show for y'all.
Got a damn good show.
Montgomery, Alabama.
We're kind of late on this, but hey.
Oh, well.
Give our thoughts on it.
That place is like 80% black.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
High 70, 75.
That's 80% black.
Chocta city.
Yeah.
So I'm sure y'all heard about it.
I don't know.
It was like some white family was pulling that boat up to the dock or something.
Yeah.
And the black security guard said, hey, y'all can't do it right here.
Got into an argument.
Black guy throws his hat up in the crowd.
The signal other black people, hey, I'm trending to get lynched or something.
I never, I didn't know that.
Black person, when they're in trouble, they throw their hat in the crowd.
So other black people, look, that's the bat singer.
The white people's after him.
I did not do that.
I didn't know neither.
That's supposed to be a black southern thing.
Yeah.
I ain't never heard of that.
Like this and help!
That's crazy.
You heard of that, Chris?
I ain't never heard of that.
You heard it looking crazy.
Yeah, well, please put it back on.
Through my head up, and I ain't nobody come to save me.
But anyway, so then it turns into a brawl like this.
No, that black guy, he was a security guard, right?
Yeah, he was a security guard.
I support the men in blue.
I support the men in blue.
I support our security guards.
Now, police officer.
Thank you for your service.
You support him, right?
He's a man of life.
I don't really give a shit about any of this.
Why are we talking about it?
We just want to give our thoughts on it.
I thought you said you didn't give a shit.
See, that's a contradiction.
What's wrong with you?
You got Hunter Biden going?
You smoking crack?
So it turns into a fight with the black security guard.
Well, lay down the foundation.
See, if all this, if everybody involved in this fight was black, nobody be talking about it.
Everybody, the white person, look, look, the niggas acting out again.
You know?
But since it's white and black, everybody's got...
Yeah, man.
It's ticket sales right there.
Right?
But if you have a white heavyweight going against a black heavyweight, oh, that place is them tickets is going to fly.
Like Floyd Mayweather and Connor McGregor.
You know why the tickets sell so much?
Black versus white.
Yeah.
We live in a racist country.
That's crazy.
Everybody want the.
Hey, y'all know, hey, if you white, you can say, you know, you wanted Connor to win.
He's not even a citizen of this country.
I'm like, well, I just say everybody don't like Florida.
He's an American.
Well, he's...
He flaunts his money too much.
He rubs people the wrong way.
Yeah, because he flaunts his money.
Yeah, he flaunts his prosperity.
It didn't have nothing to do about skin color.
You know what it was about?
What?
They want to see the white poor man get him some money.
Because he was oppressed by the UFC.
He didn't make nothing doing that.
I think they paid him.
No, he was getting pretty good.
But let's skip.
Not compared to Boxers King.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about the damn river boat, man.
I just want to lay down the facts.
That's all.
So they jumped the security guard, right?
White dudes.
I mean, thank God nobody could actually throw a punch.
Just a lot of choking.
A lot of choking, a lot of swinging like girls out there, right?
So they jumped the white dude.
I mean, the black security guard.
And then the black people came.
Did you see the black dude swimming?
You're across the...
A black dude don't even know who this kid guard is.
Jumps in the water, swims all the way across, right?
I was like, man, by the time he gets there, he's going to be exhausted.
You can't do nothing.
Right?
You wet, you slippery.
I mean, that whole scene was like a comedy sketch.
It was crazy.
It didn't seem real.
It's like something you would see on Saturday Night Live, man.
Or South Park or something.
Yeah.
These grown folks, y'all supposed to be adults, right?
So they kind of scuff up the black security guard, right?
And then the white people take off.
They're getting back in that boat.
Then that's when all the Negroes came.
Like a pack of wolves.
That was funny, man.
But so they whoop him up in that boat.
But what I didn't like, I seen a black person just take a chair and hit a white woman.
Yeah, that's one thing.
That's one thing I didn't agree.
And I see people on TikTok say, well, she deserved it.
She shouldn't have gotten involved.
I think the white girl was trying to calm people down.
Like, hey, come on, come on.
Bow!
Hit upside the head.
I don't think that was right.
Yeah, a black man taking a chair to a white woman's head.
That's I think it was black.
I can't remember.
I'm pretty sure.
He looked black to me.
He was black as Ace's face.
Come up.
Yeah.
Do you think race?
I think race played.
Well, let me say that.
I don't think race played a role in it.
I think alcohol played a role.
Race did play a role in it.
Yeah, because when you lighted a fact.
Yeah, but I'm going to say, oh, you ain't going to whoop one of us.
This is Montgomery, Alabama.
It's 80% nigga here.
Yeah, you tried that in a small town.
The white guys, the drunk white guys for jumping.
That was totally wrong.
Yeah, but the black guys coming to in defense of this one guy, the security guard, the men in blue.
That wasn't defense.
At that point, it was already over.
No, no, it wasn't.
They were still beating on them.
No, it was over.
When all the niggas got there and they started running, it was over.
No.
Then that's when the pack of wolves called it off.
Okay, we won this fight.
Yeah.
Get up together.
No, they chased the white people and picked up chairs and started beating white ones.
Now, I would call it defense.
They came to the defense of the security guard if it's in the middle or they whooping them and the black guys jumped in.
That's what happened.
No, that was all over.
The white people was in the boat.
They was leaving.
The fight was over.
The black guy had licked his wounds and got up and walked away.
No, man.
They just attacked the dude for doing his job.
They think they're going to walk away.
But it's not.
That's not the reality that I live in.
Like, if you're getting your butt whooped and they start walking away, you think I'm just going to let them walk away?
You see what I'm saying?
So you said if I was a security guard, they whooped me.
Yeah.
Do you see them walking?
Hold up, let me get a chair.
Yeah, you're just not going to let somebody walk away.
Because you're in the heat of the moment.
Yeah, if a bunch of women beat up your wife and they walk away and say, yeah, we kicked her butt.
Yeah, we showed her.
You think you just going to let them women walk away?
You're going to beat up some women?
I'm going to beat the hell out of this woman.
I'm going to pick up a chair.
No, you can't.
No, those are women.
After they beat my wife, I don't care what they are.
Oh, say you ain't going to do it.
Hey, Keith, it ain't a man on this planet.
Watch a group of women beat his wife.
You think that man could say a prayer in the middle of the day?
You got what's coming to you?
No, that white man, a white man, he's going to, he's going to...
He's going, man.
No, it's self-defense if they're beating your wife.
No, self-defense is done.
This is a brawl.
It ain't no systemic self-defense.
People are drunk.
People get jumped.
This is not self-defense.
You throw that out the women.
Look, look, let me play the picture for y'all.
The white guys, the drunk guys, just don't call them white guys.
Drunk guys attack the security guard.
Yeah.
He do the nigga call for help.
Right?
They done whooped his ass, right?
They walk away.
Yeah, we got him.
They hit them in the pack of wolves, the pack of Negroes.
You think they're just going to let that go?
No, they got to make amends for what happened here.
You know?
So they're going to mess up them dudes.
Because at this point, it's just a brawl.
Yeah.
You know?
So what happened was, but I would say this.
When they start hitting the women with the chairs, that was totally uncalled for.
I mean, they deserved it if the women are fighting.
Yeah, but all they're trying to do, Keith, is protect their husbands.
Yeah, they're trying to break it up.
Yeah, they're trying to protect.
Even if they threw a punch, a woman is no threat to a man.
I wouldn't take a chair and do that to her.
Yeah.
Because I'm a civilized human being.
Yeah.
But you know what?
Seriously, I don't think race played a role in it.
I think you don't know, though, Kevin.
Yeah.
You don't know.
I mean, you can't tell by just looking at this altercation.
Unless there's sound and video, you hearing them say the n-word over and over.
What'd you say, boy?
You said move my boat.
Who the hell you think you ask, boy?
Hey, Joe, you come in.
We got a boy don't know where he's at.
If that's how it went down, okay, yeah.
Man, I was like, when I saw him do it, I'm like, what is the hat for?
But come to find out, everybody, when a black man throws his hat up in the air in the south, I guess that means a call for help.
Yeah, Batman single for Negroes.
You said he had good form, too.
It's like, man, damn, hat went over there, man.
Man, your hair looking crazy.
When's the last time you combed your hair?
Give me a hat, man.
I ain't getting you nothing.
When's the last time you combed your hair?
I ain't combed it in like three months.
I wear a hat.
Well, you get back to your roots, huh?
I gotta get back to my roots.
I'm wearing the knack, but uh, I don't know who knows if race played a role in it.
Yeah, I think it was more, you know what it is?
Alcohol played a huge role.
Yeah, the alcohol.
You take the alcohol out, none of this happens.
You could say alcohol and Negroes don't mix.
Alcohol, yeah, because it gave that white man all that liquid courage.
He must have who knows if it was race-related.
I mean, yeah, I don't.
It was definitely race-related after the fact.
Yeah, because when a black man throws his hat now, black man backs like, hey, I need all niggas to attack.
Yeah, but do you think the white guys, do you think they were like racist or something?
They felt like I don't know.
I don't know for sure, but it definitely suspect you attack a black security guard for telling you to move your book.
Thumbs up.
They could have been just drunk.
Or yeah.
I think Keith, it was too much alcohol.
I think it was a white security guard.
Yeah.
Wearing a Biden t-shirt, same thing would happen.
Yeah, it's because he's wearing that Biden.
I don't have any proof that it was race-related.
Yeah, I don't either.
I have more faith in my country.
You have more faith.
Only a dumb nigga will say, well, I'm going to say a dumb dumb.
It's not dumb.
It's not dumb because you know black people have been oppressed.
Yeah.
It's a pretty bad thing do happen to black people.
This country is not systemically racist.
But racist people do exist.
Yeah.
But I'm not going to pull that race card, man.
Just because you see a white and a black.
But I do think race was more, it affects.
I think it was more race-related on the black side.
But Kevin, you never know.
You can't read the total strangers, this guy.
Systemic Racism Debate 00:00:52
That's crazy to throw your hat up in there.
It's like a universal call for help.
I didn't know that.
Well, we don't have a lot of black friends.
That's why.
This is proof.
Segregation works.
Segregation.
Keeps everybody calm.
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Give away a Ram 2500 decent with the Cummins in there.
Yeah.
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Yeah, a woman likes a truck when it's got the Cummins in it.
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