Hodgetwins - Our Thoughts of Kanye West Walking Out on Timcast Interview
Aired: 2022-12-01
Duration: 12:50


=== Danger of Generalizing Groups (11:38) ===

[00:00:00]  You're not gonna take, if we can't, you're not gonna take my pain away, right?
[00:00:05]  The Jewish people say it's the Holocaust, this happened, and you can't say anything about it.
[00:00:10]  We can't take their pain away.
[00:00:11]  No one's gonna denounce the fact that they tried to lock me up.
[00:00:16]  That's what it, because every time I'm just holding stride, and it's like, I didn't, I thought I was more Malcolm X, but I find out I'm more MLK because as I'm getting hosed down every day by the press, and financially, I'm just standing there.
[00:00:29]  And when I found out that they tried to put me in jail, it was like a dog was biting my arm.
[00:00:36]  And I almost shed a tear, almost, but I still walked in stride through it.
[00:00:42]  I think they've been extremely unfair to you.
[00:00:44]  Who is they, though?
[00:00:45]  We can't say who they is.
[00:00:47]  I'm not using the, I don't use the word as the way I guess you guys use.
[00:00:51]  I'm talking about it.
[00:00:51]  It is them, though, isn't it?
[00:00:52]  I mean, because when you think about it, consider it.
[00:00:56]  In 2018.
[00:00:57]  What do you mean it's not?
[00:00:58]  What do I mean?
[00:00:59]  Like, okay, so how about he leaving?
[00:01:05]  Are you afraid of the press?
[00:01:07]  He's gone.
[00:01:09]  I'll say it right now.
[00:01:12]  The way Ted was looking at him says, is this nigga finished on?
[00:01:17]  Hey, you leaving?
[00:01:18]  Deal, I thought Ted was going to take this business.
[00:01:19]  You ain't taking my damn vinyl.
[00:01:22]  There's a reason why I wear this damn thing.
[00:01:24]  Yeah, man.
[00:01:27]  That shit was crazy.
[00:01:31]  All right, so I want to make it clear.
[00:01:35]  Me and my brother, we don't agree with anything Kanye said.
[00:01:39]  I just want to make that absolutely clear.
[00:01:41]  No, but see, I don't agree when anybody makes a generalizing comment about a group of people.
[00:01:47]  Okay, Kanye has had bad luck with some Jews, right?
[00:01:55]  But see, this is the thing.
[00:01:57]  But just because you have a bad experience with a few Jews, they do not represent the entire Jewish community.
[00:02:04]  I've had run-ins with white people.
[00:02:06]  Yeah, that don't mean all white people are bad.
[00:02:09]  Right?
[00:02:09]  You see what I'm saying?
[00:02:10]  I think it's dangerous.
[00:02:10]  Like, I don't like whenever somebody generalizes somebody, like, Kanye, let's say I generalize you.
[00:02:15]  Let's say because you're black, you represent all black people.
[00:02:18]  That's ridiculous, right?
[00:02:20]  Yeah.
[00:02:20]  You only represent Kanye and I'm black.
[00:02:23]  I just, I don't speak for black people.
[00:02:24]  I represent Keith Hawks.
[00:02:26]  Yeah.
[00:02:26]  What you're going wrong is, you're speaking a lot of truth, but the way...
[00:02:29]  About the music industry.
[00:02:30]  About the mute.
[00:02:31]  Shut up.
[00:02:32]  You're speaking a lot of truth about a group of people, but that group of people has nothing to do with their faith.
[00:02:38]  The truth that you're spreading about what's going on in Hollywood is about the music industry as a whole, not about Jewish people.
[00:02:45]  The music industry.
[00:02:46]  Even though it's a lot of Jew people, Jewish people that work in the music industry.
[00:02:50]  It has nothing to do with their faith, though.
[00:02:52]  I mean, everybody.
[00:02:52]  You don't marginalize all Jewish people.
[00:02:56]  It's dangerous to do that.
[00:02:59]  I mean, I don't want to bring Adolf Hitler into this.
[00:03:02]  That was out of his playbook.
[00:03:03]  But that's how Adolf Hitler was able to do what he did.
[00:03:07]  He said, look, you're poor.
[00:03:08]  You know why?
[00:03:09]  It's because some damn Jews over there.
[00:03:12]  We need to take care of these damn Jews.
[00:03:14]  That's how he was able to do that.
[00:03:16]  I know Kanye may not be trying to do that to the whole Jewish group of people.
[00:03:21]  But that's how it starts.
[00:03:23]  That's why you're being labeled anti-Semitic because you're trying to say the rights and wrongs has been done to musicians and singers and to the black culture as a whole.
[00:03:32]  You're trying to blame all that on the Jewish people.
[00:03:35]  When the black people, they are the ones writing the lyrics.
[00:03:37]  They're the ones saying the words.
[00:03:39]  Yeah.
[00:03:40]  You're not holding them accountable, but you're putting it all on Jewish people.
[00:03:44]  Yeah.
[00:03:44]  I mean, I think a lot of the music from black artists is garbage.
[00:03:49]  It's like the N-word this is.
[00:03:51]  But the Jewish people is not forcing them to say those things.
[00:03:54]  Jewish people are not forcing black people to kill one another.
[00:03:57]  That has nothing to do with the Jewish people.
[00:03:59]  They sign that green lightning.
[00:04:00]  They green lightning the music.
[00:04:02]  Yeah, they fund it.
[00:04:03]  But who's writing it?
[00:04:05]  Who's participating in that?
[00:04:07]  Hey, Chris, you think it's a bunch of Jews?
[00:04:12]  That has nothing to do with the Jewish faith, man.
[00:04:15]  I mean, the Jewish people as a whole.
[00:04:16]  It's dangerous to generalize people.
[00:04:18]  Now, that other guy that's in the royal blue hoodie, his name is Nick Fuentez.
[00:04:22]  Now, I haven't came across too much of his material, but he's been banned off of social media.
[00:04:27]  They've labeled him as anti-Semitic.
[00:04:30]  A Holocaust denier.
[00:04:31]  White supremacist.
[00:04:33]  I know when people say those words, it doesn't mean anything much.
[00:04:37]  Especially when it's coming from the left-wing media.
[00:04:39]  But I've seen some videos from him.
[00:04:41]  And that shit makes a lot of sense.
[00:04:44]  It rubs me the wrong way.
[00:04:46]  You know, we don't like to play the race card at all over here.
[00:04:48]  He's against gay rights.
[00:04:50]  And I mean, I've seen the videos.
[00:04:52]  He said it.
[00:04:52]  The words came out of his mouth.
[00:04:54]  Yeah, he said he doesn't believe in gay rights.
[00:04:56]  What he meant by that, I have no idea.
[00:04:59]  When he said that, he don't believe in gay people having life.
[00:05:05]  Oh, no, I'm laughing at it.
[00:05:06]  Being able to breathe.
[00:05:07]  Yeah, so he's been labeled that, right?
[00:05:10]  And he's actually agreeing with Kanye.
[00:05:12]  He says them.
[00:05:13]  It is them, right?
[00:05:14]  If you missed it, here it is.
[00:05:16]  Yeah.
[00:05:18]  I think they've been extremely unfair to you.
[00:05:20]  Who is they, though?
[00:05:22]  We can't tell you they is, I'm not using the, I don't use the word as the way I guess you guys use.
[00:05:27]  I'm talking about it.
[00:05:27]  It is them, though, isn't it?
[00:05:28]  I mean, because when you think about it, consider it.
[00:05:32]  In 2018.
[00:05:33]  What do you mean it's not?
[00:05:34]  What do I mean?
[00:05:35]  Yeah, the dude in that Royal Blue hoodie, don't he look like a damn televangelist?
[00:05:39]  Yeah, until you get to know him.
[00:05:43]  Tim, I think it was Tim who said it.
[00:05:45]  He said emphatically, he said, no, it's not them.
[00:05:48]  It's the music industry.
[00:05:49]  It's not a group of people based on their faith.
[00:05:52]  Yeah.
[00:05:52]  That's when Kanye got upset and walked out.
[00:05:56]  Like, he's lost a lot of, like, his net worth is.
[00:05:59]  He's lost billions of dollars.
[00:06:00]  I mean, he's lost a lot of money.
[00:06:02]  And I don't know.
[00:06:03]  Is it Jewish people that led the charge on that?
[00:06:07]  I don't know.
[00:06:08]  Probably is.
[00:06:09]  That's what he's saying.
[00:06:10]  But of course it is because he's saying anti-Semitic.
[00:06:14]  But you can't use generalizations for the entire group of the Jewish community.
[00:06:20]  You can't do that.
[00:06:22]  That's horrible.
[00:06:23]  I totally understand where you're coming from, and I totally agree with you.
[00:06:26]  To the point when you start talking about Jewish people.
[00:06:28]  The music industry as a whole, I mean, the music that you put out that damages our culture.
[00:06:34]  I totally agree with you.
[00:06:35]  But again, you can't generalize the music industry to the Jewish faith or people that are Jewish.
[00:06:41]  That's nothing to do with their faith.
[00:06:42]  It has to do with the industry.
[00:06:44]  Yeah, and personally, I think, I mean, from what I heard, you running for president, I mean, it's a bad luck getting up, walking out.
[00:06:51]  Yeah, you can't be a president and be anti-Semitic.
[00:06:54]  And just get up and walk out.
[00:06:55]  And that Piers Morgan interview, that was crazy, too.
[00:06:59]  You kept calling them boy.
[00:07:01]  And I don't think you're stupid.
[00:07:02]  I don't think you're crazy, anything.
[00:07:04]  It's just, you got to think.
[00:07:05]  You're a very passionate speaker and you say things.
[00:07:07]  Metaphorically.
[00:07:08]  You use a lot of metaphors.
[00:07:10]  When I hear you talking, Kanye, sound like you're writing a fucking book.
[00:07:13]  Like I'm reading a book or something.
[00:07:14]  Like I'm reading a damn sci-fi.
[00:07:17]  Yeah, he says he's getting hosed down.
[00:07:18]  Yeah.
[00:07:19]  That's symbolic of what happened in the 60s.
[00:07:21]  I was buying you all.
[00:07:22]  Yeah.
[00:07:22]  But you kept in stride.
[00:07:23]  I totally get how you speak.
[00:07:24]  I totally understand how you word things, but you say 90% of the time, 95% of the time.
[00:07:32]  You see a lot of good.
[00:07:34]  I'll take it 98% of the time, but it's at 2%.
[00:07:37]  It's at 2% that you just go off the rails.
[00:07:40]  Yeah, I think it's a little bit less.
[00:07:41]  But you can take a positive message.
[00:07:43]  No, man.
[00:07:45]  95% of the time.
[00:07:46]  Yeah, 95% of what he's saying is true.
[00:07:49]  But when he becomes anti-Semitic, he throws it all out the window.
[00:07:52]  It loses all merit after that.
[00:07:55]  Yeah.
[00:07:55]  Yeah, you can take a positive message, Kanye.
[00:07:58]  Hey.
[00:07:59]  Hold up.
[00:08:00]  You can take a positive message and spin it and make it horrible.
[00:08:03]  That's what you're doing.
[00:08:05]  And you're hanging out with this dude, Nick Fuentez.
[00:08:08]  I mean, he's, I mean, I did a little research on him and he's got a big fan base.
[00:08:14]  Yeah.
[00:08:15]  Yeah, he does.
[00:08:16]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:08:16]  Yeah.
[00:08:17]  And I've seen, and y'all know us.
[00:08:20]  Politicians went to his riders.
[00:08:22]  I'm like, I don't know why y'all lying to y'allselves with him.
[00:08:24]  Yeah, like.
[00:08:26]  Y'all know I don't like to play the race car, neither of us.
[00:08:28]  I mean, being a black and conservative, you know we don't play the race card.
[00:08:32]  Right.
[00:08:32]  But when I've seen some of the things that he said online.
[00:08:37]  Yeah.
[00:08:38]  I mean, I'm like...
[00:08:40]  Hold up, I ain't done talking.
[00:08:43]  Like, when he says the stuff he says, I was like, when I saw it and I heard, I was like, this dude's racist.
[00:08:52]  Did he just say that?
[00:08:54]  Like, I'll go up to the line, right?
[00:08:56]  And I make jokes, but y'all can tell him I'm being facetious.
[00:08:59]  I'm joking.
[00:09:00]  Yeah.
[00:09:00]  This dude, like, runs through the line and breaks into people's houses and starts saying anti-Semitic.
[00:09:06]  I mean, this dude is like, he's really reckless.
[00:09:09]  Yeah.
[00:09:10]  And this dude and he might be a very nice guy, but his message is just wrong.
[00:09:15]  Yeah.
[00:09:16]  He seems like a nice guy.
[00:09:17]  He needs some more guidance.
[00:09:18]  He needs some direction.
[00:09:19]  Just like Kanye needs direction.
[00:09:21]  I mean, look like Nick Fuentez would have learned your lesson.
[00:09:23]  You've been buying off of all social media.
[00:09:25]  You own Tim Cass.
[00:09:27]  This dude gets hundreds of thousands, if not millions on his videos.
[00:09:30]  And you are saying it is them, right?
[00:09:35]  When are you going to catch on that what you're saying is wrong?
[00:09:39]  You can't generalize a group of people.
[00:09:41]  It's not fair for me to generate, like, say I run into a white supremacist, right?
[00:09:45]  I'm going to the piggly wiggly and the clan jumps out of the bush and says, go back where you come from.
[00:09:50]  Then you wrap a noose around me and say this is KKK country.
[00:09:56]  And it's downtown Chicago.
[00:09:57]  And it's downtown Chicago, right?
[00:09:59]  And I come out and generalize all white people or Klansmen and white supremacists.
[00:10:04]  Kanye, that's the same thing you're doing.
[00:10:06]  Nick Fuentez, that's the same thing you're doing.
[00:10:08]  That's why people are labeling you anti-Semitic.
[00:10:12]  Yeah, like I stopped watching First 48 because that show, it shows, you know, real life police investigation.
[00:10:21]  It's not enough for white people on that.
[00:10:22]  There's a number of black people on there.
[00:10:24]  I had to stop watching it because it was turning me into a white supremacist.
[00:10:29]  I think it's natural for you to start labeling a group of people a certain way when you have bad experiences.
[00:10:34]  Like what happened on 9-11?
[00:10:37]  I shouldn't even go there.
[00:10:40]  That's a great example.
[00:10:42]  Even though you're a good person, then for a moment you look at that group of people a certain way.
[00:10:48]  It's because we're human.
[00:10:49]  Because we're human.
[00:10:51]  So you got to catch yourself.
[00:10:53]  Like, no, I had a bad experience with that person who happens to be from this group.
[00:10:57]  He does not represent all those people of that group.
[00:11:00]  It's just, it's a slippery slope to hell when you make that.
[00:11:04]  Yeah.
[00:11:05]  You make when you go down that road.
[00:11:07]  Yeah, I hope you see this video.
[00:11:09]  I don't know.
[00:11:11]  I mean, you got some really bad people you're hanging around with.
[00:11:14]  I don't know how you got.
[00:11:16]  Somebody would have pulled you to the side and sat you down and because you're not a stupid guy.
[00:11:20]  You're very intelligent.
[00:11:21]  You just go off the rails.
[00:11:22]  You get very emotional.
[00:11:23]  And for whatever reason, you stop thinking and you say things that's totally wrong.
[00:11:28]  Like on Tucker, you was great.
[00:11:30]  Yeah, Tucker didn't push him, though.
[00:11:33]  Tucker was walking on eggshells.
[00:11:35]  Tucker's just like, yeah, you know what?

=== Walking on Eggshells (01:12) ===

[00:11:38]  You're right.
[00:11:40]  Tucker's on walking on eggshells.
[00:11:42]  Yeah, I don't know how you and Nick Fuentez made it to Mar-Lago.
[00:11:47]  How does that happen?
[00:11:49]  I haven't even been invited to Mar-a-Lago.
[00:11:52]  How did Nick Fuentez get to go?
[00:11:54]  Yeah.
[00:11:56]  Slip through the cracks.
[00:11:58]  Man, Trump, you need to fire all your secret service.
[00:12:02]  You got a man that's been banned off of Kanye.
[00:12:04]  Why are you hanging out with that guy?
[00:12:06]  I can understand if he had been born again.
[00:12:08]  He's a born-again Christian.
[00:12:10]  He got baptized.
[00:12:10]  And he said, Yeah, I said some horrible things.
[00:12:12]  I'm sorry.
[00:12:13]  I'm a changed man.
[00:12:13]  But this dude is still out there.
[00:12:15]  It is them, right?
[00:12:17]  He's still saying this shit.
[00:12:18]  He still said it.
[00:12:19]  Hey, play it again.
[00:12:20]  Hey, Show, if you don't believe it, it is them, right?
[00:12:26]  I think they've been extremely unfair to you.
[00:12:28]  Who is they, though?
[00:12:30]  We can't say who they is, Camp.
[00:12:31]  I'm not using the word as the way I guess you guys use.
[00:12:35]  I'm talking about them.
[00:12:35]  It is them, though, isn't it?
[00:12:36]  I mean, because when you think about it, consider it.
[00:12:40]  In 2018.
[00:12:41]  What do you mean it's not?
[00:12:43]  What do I mean?
[00:12:45]  Fuentes, I think he's Spaniard.
[00:12:47]  Yeah, I think Kanye Addu is a bad influence.