Lizzo plays James Madison's 200-year-old flute, an instrument gifted to the fourth U.S. president by the Library of Congress, sparking debate over whether her performance style constitutes twerking or mere hip movement. While critics frame this cultural moment as Western civilization's fall, the hosts argue it simply represents diversity, contrasting Lizzo's modernity with the disturbing reality of Madison's unmarked graves for over 100 enslaved people at Montpelier. Ultimately, neither figure is perfect, and her playing does not signal civilizational collapse, though the episode concludes by promoting upcoming comedy tour dates across major U.S. cities. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Madison Flute Controversy00:03:42
Made history did you just say you made history tonight?
I guess because she's playing a white man's flute.
How did she make history?
Are you being for real?
You made history.
And that's not twerking.
You shaking.
They call it twerking, though.
That ain't twerking.
Twerking is you actually moving.
You moving.
You gyrating all over the place.
Yeah, you actually moving hips.
You gyrating.
You was just jiggling.
But anyway, okay, so why this is such a controversial video?
It's because Lizzo at one of her concerts, she's a flutist.
And that flute she played, that was James Madison's flute, the fourth president of the United States, one of the framers of the Constitution.
It was actually given to him as a gift for his second inauguration.
Yeah, yeah.
So it was his flute.
And I guess the Library of Congress where this flute was being stored, they found out Lizzo was coming to D.C.
And she's a flutist.
And she's a flute.
So they invited her to play his flute.
And she took it to one of her performances.
Yeah.
So she legally had, you know, she legally attained this flute.
She didn't break in a House of Congress.
I mean, the Library of Congress and still that damn flute.
Yeah.
And they gave it to her.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I'm not a, I mean, I'm not a big fan of how Lizzo carries herself.
The way she dresses.
I think it's...
Yeah.
It's not flattering at all.
It's not flattering, but it's her body.
Yeah.
It's free country.
If it's free country.
She wouldn't walk out there looking crazy letter.
She would have go out there looking disgusted.
No.
Yeah, but she's not, I mean, she's an attractive woman.
She's just overweight, you know?
Right.
Yeah.
And she's attractive.
I mean, a lot of repugnants go hard on her.
She just overweight, but she's still an attractive woman.
Yeah.
Most of them would probably get on top of her.
Man, come on, man.
Get serious on this.
So it's a heart attack.
They talk all this shit.
They had the opportunity to get it right on top of it.
And then roll off and fall by 500 yards.
Hey.
Like, you know, you roll off a girl, you just fall, roll up, like, whoa, fucking touch.
Hey, I want to say this.
I don't really have any problem.
I guess people find this disgusting that she actually has the fourth president of the United States, his flute that was given to him as a gift.
She's going to give it back.
I mean, I don't know why this is some people's heel to die on.
I don't know why they're saying this is a fall of Western civilization.
Republicans are actually saying that.
Well, it was one video I see.
Me and Keith Benny.
Yeah, okay.
We've been to his house.
I used to live in Virginia.
I went to James Madison's mansion.
It's called Montpelier.
You can go there and tour his plantation.
Yeah, we actually went with our mama.
I said, hey, mama, the school of James Madison.
I was mom said, don't go to that man as a white supremacist.
Right?
But we went.
We went.
I wanted to go.
I wanted to go.
So we walked through his house and then after we saw his house.
It was actually refurbishing it, you remember?
Yeah, it was refurbished.
Man, that house was on, I don't know how many acres that was.
The view outside of that house outside the front.
It was amazing.
It was beautiful.
Right.
So after we go through his house, we go in the back of his house, his backyard.
And back there, though, you could see a bunch of like big old humongous anthills.
Right?
Those weren't anthills, they're graves.
Yeah, all his slaves, whenever he died, he buried them all in the back of this tree line.
And it just looked like a bunch of heels everywhere.
I mean, it didn't even look like he took the time to dig a hole.
He just threw dirt on them.
And it was just, it was such an eerie feeling to see that.
Walking Through His House00:01:34
Yeah.
Like you see his grave.
He's got a headstone.
Oh, his grave.
He got this big, huge headstone.
It's a nice headstone.
Yeah, and all you see right over to the right of him.
Behind the house.
No, it was behind his house.
Yeah, it was a bunch of just heels, and he had little flags come out.
No names, no anything.
It was the most weary feeling I've ever felt.
It was like sticks stuck in and stuff like that to show somebody's death.
Oh, that was nice of him.
At least he could have did that.
And I was reading up on James Madison, and he had like over 100 slaves.
He had, even when he died, he didn't even give them freedom.
He gets, nah, you missed him.
Passed him down to his family, huh?
Or something like that.
He didn't even give them freedom then, but I don't know.
I don't have a problem.
I mean, James Madison, he was a great guy as far as the Constitution and establishing this country, but he wasn't perfect.
Lizzo's not perfect.
Neither one of them's perfect.
Yeah.
They're just human beings.
They're just human beings.
They have pros and cons that come with both of them.
Her playing the flute, I mean, come on.
That's not the end of Western civilization.
It's called diversity.
That was a damn good show.
Hey, we got some comedy shows coming up.
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