Hodgetwins dissect a Sonic restaurant incident where staff misgendered transgender woman Dennis Smothers as "sir," sparking a debate over whether respecting gender identity forces unwanted lifestyles on others. While one host argues appearance justifies assumptions, the other insists asking for pronouns or checking credit card names prevents conflict. Comparing this to a GameStop altercation and religious intolerance, they question if mandatory acceptance of preferred terms constitutes bigotry, ultimately challenging listeners to reconsider defaulting to gender assumptions based solely on voice or presentation. [Automatically generated summary]
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Sonic Misgendering Incident00:14:41
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What is happening at?
This happened at a Sonic restaurant, right?
They got some damn good burgers over there.
They got one of the best chicken sandwiches, too, man.
They got good food over there.
Yeah, but a trans.
Yeah, but a transgender.
I don't think that's...
It has some issues.
I don't think they like to be called trans.
Transgender.
Yeah, transgender.
You just said trans at first.
Yeah.
Be nice to these people.
I am.
Transgender.
You're coming off homophobic right now.
They like to be called transphobic.
You coming off transphobic.
And I don't like it.
No, they like being called trans too.
No, they don't.
They do.
Transgender?
Call them transgender, man.
That's what I said.
Beat tonight.
And I guess they was in the Sonic.
They?
Yeah, they, the people in Sonic.
Oh, I thought she was talking about the trans.
How you know her pronouns?
No, I don't do they with nobody but a group of people.
I don't do it.
I don't do that.
You don't do it.
I don't do that.
They stuff.
Well, just because you use they pronoun don't mean you can't talk trash about it.
Hey, you know they's a dumbass, man.
They're a moron.
Hey, shh, they over there.
Look at they.
They is so damn stupid.
But uh, let me.
That's one thing I don't really get over those pronouns.
Not to get off the subject or anything, but when you're using your preferred pronouns, you're not even in the picture.
They're talking about you.
Yeah, you're not doing the conversation.
You don't even realize they're talking about.
Hey, where did she go?
Where did he go?
Where did they go?
Yeah, I mean, pronouns, man.
That's just whatever.
But this happened at a Sonic.
I guess somebody misgendered this transgender.
And like, remember that incident that happened at GameStop?
That was an honest mistake.
Yeah, because he looked.
He looked like a man with long hair.
Yeah.
If y'all don't remember, there's a guy.
He went to who don't remember that?
Well, everybody knew.
He went to GameStop and the guy said, sir, something.
He's like, it's not sir, it's ma'am.
But y'all remember that, right?
Yeah, but he looked very masculine.
His voice was masculine.
I mean, but anyway, this happened in a Sonic.
Check it out.
Correct?
I would like you to promise me that you will stop treating trans people this way.
This way.
And I'm doing that.
You're staffed.
This way.
You're staffed.
They're not doing that, man.
Yes, they were.
Okay, well, no.
I mean, like I said, I mean, your name and the credit card is a feminine name?
No.
Exactly.
They're not discriminating.
Yes.
They are.
Because someone else could be paying.
By you handing the card.
I'm sorry.
If someone else was sitting here, that's a man.
And I handed him that card, they would not have said anything.
But because I'm alone, they're going to be an And discriminate against me and be transphobic.
Shut up.
She got a good point, man.
Nobody's coming forward like this.
No, nobody doesn't.
That is what's happening.
Hang on, that's how you feel.
I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
Hey, can you stop the video for a second?
Stop the video for a second.
What you stopping the video for?
I just want to say something.
Can I say something?
You know, if I see a person that's obviously trying to be the opposite sex, I'm just going to refer to that person as the opposite sex.
I'm not going to go out of my way.
How do you not know it's just a dude cross-dressing?
If I see a man wearing a dress with lipstick and a long and got a hair down, got blush and got a mascara on, and even did a damn, what's these things called?
Uh, around your ass, what they call them, eyelashes, yeah, got the eyelashes there, eyelashes on fleek, eyelashes on fleek.
I'm gonna call you ma'am, I'm gonna call you she, her.
I'm gonna do all that.
You probably sitting with a big old smile on your face, too.
How you doing, ma'am?
Hey, you want some fries with that shake, ma'am?
Yeah, people, people touch.
I mean, shut up.
Let's go back to the video.
I'm just saying, wait a minute.
People, people, people, you, I get it.
Just turn the video back off.
There's a difference.
Because of that, no, there's a difference.
You know, because I mean, like in my sexuality or whatever it is, and I feel confident.
Oh, why are you talking about that?
I'm talking about sexuality.
You don't even know what we're talking about.
So how can you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about?
We're talking about identity.
We're talking about sexuality.
Okay.
There's a difference.
What are you?
You getting educated today.
I can call you.
What are you?
No.
What are you?
Why does it matter?
No, no.
What are you?
Why does it matter?
What are you?
Why does it matter?
Oh, it doesn't matter to you.
I'm so, I mean, but to me, I'm a male.
Okay?
Okay.
So, what are you?
So I can call you a sir or ma'am.
What are you?
What would you assume looking at me?
What are you?
What would you assume looking at me?
I assume that you're a man.
Okay.
Thank you.
Whatever.
Now, you know, that manager's full of it.
He's full of it.
Hey, you taking sides?
I'm just saying, people are fucking.
Who are you taking sides?
No, people are full of shit, man.
He's asking her, what are you, man or woman?
Look at her.
I mean, him.
Whatever you want to call her.
Well, you know what?
When they go.
Obviously, she wants to be called her.
Yeah.
Obviously.
I mean, if you had to drive through, if you're the manager, you're taking a credit card.
It's got Dennis Smothers on there.
And he, he, and that's him.
Dennis Smothers?
Right?
It's this.
She gave you a credit card visa, platinum, Dennis Smothers.
I need some ID.
Did you still listen?
I mean, I say what you're saying.
I would just call it.
You know what she wants to be called as she.
Do you think that, but maybe it's just a cross-dresser?
You know, that's going out there, going around, too.
You know, that cross-dresser.
I think that cross-dresser went out of style, man.
You just got to pick a side, huh?
I think more people nowadays, they're just picking a side.
Yeah, like when they was arguing, he was like, he's like, let's just fix all of this right now because he's confused.
What trans people don't understand, a lot of people are confused about what the hell y'all got going on.
So he sat there and asked you, what are you?
So he could call you sir or ma'am or whatever.
So he could fix that, right?
And then I guess she, I'm assuming that's what you want to be called.
She said, why does it matter?
Why are we having this argument if it doesn't matter?
He's trying to fix the situation right there.
And you say, why does it matter?
But do you think we wasn't there?
I wasn't privy to what happened before?
Yeah.
Do you think that the employees at Sonic was finger banging this dude?
What?
Screwing with him.
Oh, screw.
Oh, screwing with him.
Yeah, they probably was.
Well, that's a, you know, finger banger.
Screwing with him.
Screwing with him.
That's what I meant.
Screwbang.
Yeah, they probably was.
Yeah, they screwed with him.
They know that he wants to be called or her.
Yeah, and I mean, like me personally, like you were saying.
Why are you treating trans women this way?
This way.
Why are you treating trans women this way?
You're doing better.
I'm doing it wrong.
It's like this.
Why are you treating me this way?
Why are you treating me?
Do it again.
Ain't doing it again.
Why are you treating trans women this way?
Yeah, way.
You got to put some way.
Put some twang on it.
Why are you treating trans women this way?
No, you got too deep on that.
Why are you treating trans women this way?
Yeah, there you go.
Why are you treating trans women this way?
Why are you treating trans this way?
Hey, why you keep dressed this way?
It's like a damn soft part character.
Hey.
She made some valid points, though.
Yeah, she did.
She made some valid points, man.
Give the woman her dude.
I mean, she went through all this trouble to put on lipstick.
I mean, shaved a face, got her hair long, got a dress on, got makeup.
Got a dress on?
She's doing the best job she can.
I mean, she's doing everything possible.
Y'all know y'all should have called that man she.
Y'all know y'all should have called that damn man her.
You know that's what he wants to be called.
Yeah, but Kevin.
I'm just thinking people sometimes.
I mean, I'm not a very confrontational person.
If you come through the drive-through, obviously, I know you want to be called a she or her.
Yeah, you're trying.
You can, you can, you can hear all the stress on her voice, trying to make it sound feminine.
Yeah.
I mean, she's trying hard, man.
Yeah.
I'm thinking they intensely misgender.
Really?
Yeah, I think so.
No shit.
I'm just keeping it 100.
Hey, but.
But, I mean, technically, when they say misgender, you're not technically misgendering.
You just use the wrong pronouns because you can't.
You're misgendering that gender identity.
Everybody knows it's a guy.
You're using.
Yeah.
I mean, but so they don't.
See, what some people don't want to see this was like a, you're living in a fairy tale and they don't want to play along with it.
See, me personally, I'm over this.
I'm like, if I come in contact with people, I mean, I'll just make sure I don't use any pronouns.
I'll be like, excuse me, Dennis.
Hey, Dennis, here's your card back.
Yeah, I'll be like this.
I'll be like this.
They come up like.
What do you want?
No, I wouldn't do that.
I'd be nice.
I'd be like, hi, ma'am.
How are you?
What would you like to order today?
That's what I would do.
Oh, I'm sorry.
We're all out of ice cream.
We can't make milkshakes.
The ice cream milk machine is broken again.
Hey.
Why are you treating me this way?
It's always broke when I come in here.
It's because I'm trans?
Yeah, man.
I'm just glad I'm not.
I mean, I mean, listen, let's get deep in this conversation.
Let's get deeper into it.
Let's go deep.
Now, if you want to be called different prototypes, you're trying to live your life as opposite sex.
Is it fair to force that on other people when they don't take on your same beliefs?
I mean, will a Christian walk inside of a Muslim's house and try to convert him to Christianity?
Yeah, you know what?
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, you know what the definition of bigot is you're intolerant to other people's views and lifestyles?
So technically, you can say the trans person is being intolerant to other people's lifestyles.
And you can say it vice versa.
And you can say it vice versa.
Actually, this is what happened when bigots join.
Now, when you're not a bigot, you're willing to go that extra mile for people, even though you don't really believe in it yourself.
Yeah.
You just want to like...
I mean, that person always said, either called you.
Well, if I was confused, I would have gone by the name on a credit card.
Here's your car back, Dennis.
Or if you had one of those names that could go either way, like Terry.
Yeah.
I would have just took a wild guess.
But I would have used she.
Yeah, I would have, too.
I'm like, at first, I was like, man, I'm not doing all this, but I'm not going to do that they stuff, though.
And it's just one of y'all.
I'm not going to do that.
I mean, I understand some of y'all won't even do the she, but I'm just over it.
I don't care.
It's their life.
Let them live in make-believe, fairy tale land, all they want.
Hey, you either believe in the Constitution or you don't.
Yeah, the Constitution gives them the right to do that, right?
You do believe in the Constitution, right?
You're a patriot, right?
I mean, here on the right, we're patriots.
I really don't see this no different than having respect on your own body when it comes to a vaccination.
They can do what they want with their own body living their own.
Yeah.
You know what it comes down?
People need to respect other people's lifestyles and life choices and decisions.
But what everybody did that, we'll be okay.
But what pisses people off, I don't know if this happened in this summer, is they push their lifestyles on other people.
Yeah.
And you can say you're pushing your lifestyle when, you know, people don't believe in what you're doing.
People, you're forcing people to believe in what you believe in.
It doesn't make it further to them either.
I mean, not everybody is nice as me and my twin brother here.
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You're bent over backwards for him.
How do you say that?
That's too damn gay.
Sounds gay, too.
Been over backwards.
Yeah, you getting railed if you've been in over.
I would think you're getting sucked off.
Been over backwards?
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