Lil Nas X's "Montero" video sparks debate over whether it is demonic art or protected expression, with discussions on the name "X," lyrics implying sodomy, and the sale of 666 blood-stained shoes that triggered a Nike lawsuit. Speakers question if Hollywood disproportionately promotes LGBTQ+ artists while censoring conservative views, noting the normalization of explicit content for minors and contrasting this with Mike Lindell's claims of big tech censorship despite his business success. Ultimately, the episode highlights tensions between artistic freedom, parental guidance, and accusations of using minority figures to push progressive agendas. [Automatically generated summary]
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Lil Nas X and the Devil00:08:39
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Yeah, Lil Nas X. Lil Nas.
Everybody want to put Lil in front of that name.
It's a whole bunch of Lil's out there.
I started that.
Lil Richard started.
Lil Richard, Lil Wayne, Lil Pump.
Everybody want Lil in.
Lil.
Lil.
Lil Nas X.
I wonder what the X is for.
I know what it is.
You know, Michael Max, he renamed himself Michael Max because he didn't know his real last name because he had a slave name.
Yeah.
That's why he took X. That's why I think Lil Nas X took that.
He would know his real last name.
Maybe he just don't know what his gender is.
I think it's the lather.
Might be both.
All right.
Now everybody's talking about this because the video is on the demonic side.
I wouldn't go that far, man.
You're being too hard on Lil Nas X.
I would say controversial.
Just because you got the devil in your video don't mean you're a devil worshiper.
Crazy as hell.
What the hell is that?
Just cause we.
Hey, what's that one movie, man?
I do like a red monkey.
Hellboy?
Hellboy.
Just because I like hellboy don't mean I like the devil.
See, that was straight Socrates right there.
No, that's not.
I got your head spinning.
I'm dumping all that logic on you.
No, you coming off like a damn liberal.
No, man.
No, you be talking.
You're having a debate with a liberal.
They say something crazy.
Be like, what?
I just had one of those moments with you.
No, man.
Just because you like looking at the movies with the devil in it don't make you a devil worshiper.
So this is just kind of like art.
Yeah.
Yeah, you have to.
It's art.
Some people might say it's good art.
Some people might say it's bad art.
It's all up to that person's personal opinion.
I call it demonic art.
And it's bad.
You think so?
Yeah, I didn't like it.
You might be a little hard on him, man.
He might be a good guy.
You don't know Lil Nas X, man.
Hey.
No, I mean, okay, look, this is.
Maybe he's just too creative and it's just going over your head.
No, I think I get it.
I think I get it too, man.
I mean, he's in the music industry.
I mean, controversy sells music.
I mean, why y'all think Cardi be out here banging buttholes together on TV?
Banging coochies, banging buttholes.
I mean, it's always been like that.
That butthole rubbing on live TV in front of all the kids.
I don't know.
Let me see.
Like, I actually took some time to do some research.
Yeah.
Yo, that's right.
We read all the lyrics, huh?
I was reading over the lyrics.
We looked at the video too, man.
I mean, in the video, it looked like he was going to heaven.
Then, I don't know, I might be reading it wrong, but he was going to heaven.
Then he's like, you know what?
I'm not down with all these heaven, all these angels.
I'm going back to hell.
He went back down to hell, gave the devil a lap dance.
Yeah.
And looked like maybe I might be jumping to conclusions.
I think he was actually having intercourse with the devil.
He hopped off.
That's a lap dance.
No, man.
I think the devil went inside of him a couple times.
He got up, went around the death, gave him a nice neck massage, but he was doing that to trick the devil.
You think so?
So the devil put his guard down.
He went behind the devil.
He thought he was going to get a nice good back rug.
Lil Nas ex cracked his neck.
He didn't crack it.
He broke his damn neck.
If you ask me, I think, if you ask me, Lil Nas is doing God's work.
Lil Nas took one for the team.
But then his head.
He took one of those filthy cream pies.
Got the devil to put his head his guard down.
He killed the devil, man.
He doing God's work, man.
Yeah, he did kill the devil.
Look like.
He definitely broke his damn neck.
So, yeah.
All right, let me.
Let's get serious on this.
Yeah, huh?
Get serious on this.
You know what you're right, man.
Because you know what?
He's got a huge fan base.
And it's a bunch of kids, man.
And little kids don't know what's going on.
Mommy, what's he doing to the devil?
Oh, it looks like he gave him a lap down.
Oh, why is he facing?
Why is he in the reverse cowboy, mama?
Oh, the devil's having sex with himself.
Hey, why'd he kill the devil?
I think he's doing God's work.
Hey, let me read verse two of the song.
AA, I want to sell what you're buying.
I want to fill on your ass in Hawaii.
And why it's got to be Hawaii, though.
Hawaii is a nice place.
It's romantic.
Man, you can rub somebody's ass anywhere.
I mean, why he pick Hawaii?
You go to Texas and rub somebody's ass.
Shut up.
Get serious on this.
Let me read Deke's lyrics.
Let's get serious on this.
This is about little kids.
This dude's role model.
And little Nas, you all at doing all that fornicating with the devil.
Should be ashamed of yourself, boy.
All right, look here.
Okay, let's get serious on this.
We go get serious.
Kevin, what?
Look, I want to sell what you're buying.
I want to fill on your ass in Hawaii.
I want that.
Hey.
Whose ass?
Female's ass or a man's ass?
I'm pretty sure it's a man's ass.
Let's get serious on this.
All right, look.
I want that jet lag from f ⁇ ing and flying.
Hey, watch your mouth.
We got Christians watching us.
Shoot a child in your mouth while I'm riding.
Shoot a child in your mouth while I'm riding.
You know what that is.
Busting nuts in your mouth.
But how is it going to shoot a child in his mouth when he's riding?
Kevin's talking about.
Oh, the devil maybe get maybe the devil's got two dicks.
What the hell you talking about?
This is the verse.
Shoot a child in your mouth while I'm riding.
He was riding the devil in the video.
Maybe the devil got a second, you know, mushroom.
I'm thinking he's talking about driving in a car, Kevin.
No, I'm talking about this went with the video.
He was giving the devil a lap dance.
I think he was having sex with the devil.
Now, shut the hell off me.
Now, if I didn't see the video, I would think, yeah, he wanted to bust his babies down a dude's mouth.
But that don't drive with the video.
Well, maybe, maybe.
Maybe you should shut the hell up.
How about that?
Let's get serious on this.
So that's what he's talking about.
That's what my interpretation is.
Well, say that one verse again.
I'm done saying that.
No, that one verse.
No, he said again.
I'm a burning hell.
No, that verse about the mouth.
What'd he say?
Shoot a child in your mouth while I'm riding.
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
Slow down now.
That's what I think it means.
It means him getting, you know, just like concealed.
That's in the Bible oral sex, that's sodomy.
That's sodomy.
Whether you straight or gay, like this dude.
That's sodomy.
I guess we're all gonna be burning here right beside Lil Nas.
I got me some sodomy this morning.
We all think we're going to hell.
We wake up.
We right there in hell.
Lil Nas right that dance.
Like, hold up.
What the hell's going on?
What?
Having animal sex with my wife is sodomy.
What the hell are you talking?
No.
Well, that's considered sodomy in the mouth and in the ear.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's a saying.
Y'all know that?
Yeah.
I'm going to try to.
Religion, Sodomy, and Boundaries00:15:07
Think about this, everybody.
All from your wife, that means you're going to burn in hell right there with Lil Nas.
Y'all are going to all be down there just dancing.
He's going to be singing his song for y'all.
You better repent.
He's going to be selling his little Satan shoes to you.
Yeah, he also came up with some merchandise for this.
He had 666 pair.
Okay, that goes.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That sounds about right.
I mean, whoever's on his marketing team, so far, you're doing good.
You came with that demonic ass video.
You just rode the devil.
Yeah, I would.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
666 pair of shoes.
Yeah, it even has some blood in it.
That's just too far.
You had to go with the blood.
Yeah.
You know, we're in a global pandemic, right?
Think about people's families.
And they sold them for like a thousand, a little bit over a thousand bucks.
Should have sold them for $666,066.
You made a lot more money.
They sold out.
Yeah.
Whoever's on your marketing team, D, they had a good idea, but they just wrecked it.
They wrecked it at the end.
Yeah, Nike had nothing to do.
You should have sold it for $666.66.
666 pairs.
You'd have made more money.
You just still sold out, man.
Nike says they had nothing to do with this.
They're actually suing him over the shoe because they've got the Nike swoosh on it.
You can't, like, if Lil Niles came out with t-shirts and my big H on the sleeve.
Right here, man.
What are you doing that for?
The H is right here.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, if Lil Nas came with that shirt, where my H at?
Damn.
Yeah.
He came out with a drop of blood in the tag.
I sued the hell out of.
I said, look, this is why.
Look, this is.
Let's get serious on this.
All right.
Now, this is the way I see it.
This is the United States of America.
Either you believe in freedom or you don't.
Yeah.
Either you believe in the Constitution or you don't.
You either believe in the First Amendment or you don't.
Yeah.
I believe in all that.
You believe in the freedom of religion or you don't.
Satanic is a religion, man.
No, it's not.
It is.
No, it's just devil worshipers.
That's not a religion.
That's a religion.
Worshiping the devil is a religion.
Anything you watch, you can worship a cow is religion.
Scientology.
That's religion.
That's a good point.
Freedom.
You either believe in freedom or religion of religion or you don't.
You either believe in freedom of speech or you don't.
You either believe in the First Amendment or you don't.
I've been over it.
You either believe in freedom.
I mean, you can disagree with Lil Nas, but he's not there to be your role model for your kids.
You are.
But damn.
You are.
Yeah.
I'm a role model for my kids.
But this is the thing.
There's weak parents out there.
Yeah.
And this can manipulate kids.
You think so?
Yeah.
I think I was a little kid, man.
I saw this.
I ain't going to be out here looking for the devil trying to get my.
This wasn't out when it was little kids.
You've seen what those dirty magazines did to us when it was like nine.
Yeah, I know.
I've been struggling with that for my entire life.
This is true, man.
You brought up a very important me and we came across this.
This kid manipulating this kid, especially young, impressed my mind.
When we was little kids, man, we just moved in a whole house.
Mom and daddy bought it.
It was a hole.
That's all they could afford.
By Trump's standards, he would have said, Keith Kemp, this is a hole.
We found some dirty magazines underneath the basement.
Yeah.
Man, I'm still struggling with that.
Yeah.
I saw them.
Beautiful women just getting desecrated.
Yeah.
And I was, I've been a...
Well, I ain't even go there.
Hey, let's stick with Lil Nas, man.
Let's stick with Lil Nas on this.
Oh, man.
And all about his full name, man.
Don't be disrespectful to him, man.
Lil Nas X.
Okay, Lil Nas X.
Okay, I get...
I mean, like we said, this is America.
You can be what you want to be.
You could be Keith Hoggs and you could be Lil Nas X.
I mean, that's the freedom we have in this country.
Yeah.
So I'm not, I just don't like that this is front page for kids.
Well, it's so controversial.
It's so controversial.
That's why it's front page.
I would tell you this.
If Lil Nas X was a Trump supporter, if he was a conservative, a proud conservative, this video would be getting a lot of different headlines.
What?
If he was a Trump supporter, what the hell would a Trump supporter be doing some like this?
I'm just saying.
No, you either believe in freedom or you don't.
Oh, you're saying if he was an actual Trump supporter?
Yeah, yeah.
He did this.
Yeah.
Look at all the flag Kanye got.
I mean, I'm just saying there's a bunch of hypocrites out there.
I mean, and I understand he's not.
He's out to make money.
Yeah, he's making his money.
And I mean, Cardi B, she's making a money.
You can't, she's not.
Both of these artists are not doing anything illegal.
You could say it's morally wrong what they might be doing to society, but that's all speculation.
We don't really know.
They used to say video games, Call of Duty was leading people to go into schools and shoot people.
We don't know.
It's just speculation.
No, of course not.
Yeah.
I mean, you had a predisposition to do something like that.
Just seeing a video game do that.
But I want to say this, like, the history of Hollywood, like when racism was rampant in this country, right?
When you look at older movies, like, what was that, the black actor, Sidney Potier?
He was the first black actor, and he actually slapped a white man in a movie.
That was crazy as hell.
It took a lot of balls to do that.
But it was to put, you know, Jackie Robinson, first black man in baseball.
I mean, sports in Hollywood has always been progressive.
But now, y'all didn't take this shit too far.
Yeah, you go.
In my opinion, this because, I mean, this is America.
Either you believe in freedom or you don't.
There's good art and there's bad art.
A lot of people are going to say this is good art.
Some people are going to say it's bad art.
It just depends on the person that's reviewing it.
But I do know this.
A lot of Christians is pissed.
A lot of people that believe in God, this is like really, this is very scary to them.
And you can't blame them.
If you're very religious, you believe in God and you see a famous person like Lil Nas X and he's in, you know, giving a riding the devil until he busts.
I mean, this shit is getting a little bit too hard, too far, because, I mean, just think about it from that point of view.
I mean, you're going to offend a lot of people.
You're scaring a lot of people.
But I think that was the whole point.
I mean, we talking about it.
I don't even know.
That was the whole point.
Yeah, I don't know for sure if this man believes in God or he believes in the devil or he's just messing with everybody.
You know, I think all of this was not his idea.
Yeah.
There's people that's pulling the strings.
I'm not saying he's a puppet, but this dude, he is a musician and people around his team, they know what works and what makes money.
And controversy makes money.
Yeah.
Don't necessarily make Lil Nas X a terrible person.
They don't?
No.
He's not harming anybody.
He's sending out a message.
Some people say he's sending, I will tell you this.
He's sending out a lot of mixed messages to young, impressionable kids.
I would say that.
Yeah, but a lot of people say he's mentally harming kids.
I mean, look at it this way.
When we came across those magazines, we were kids.
Yeah.
Let's say, for example, those weren't women in those magazines.
It was a bunch of dudes.
You never know.
We'd have turned out like Lil Nas X. That's what the problem is.
It's too far of a jump, man.
No, you little kids, you impressionable.
So I come to young magazine, a dude getting sucked up by none of us, man.
I want to try that.
Yeah, you a little kid.
Man, you crazy as hell.
I know my boundaries, and I'm not sucking cock.
Now, I see them beautiful women in there.
No, but mama was really religious.
She taught us.
I'm just saying, if you're exposed to something like that, it normalizes it.
It normalizes it.
That's the word of the day, kids.
Normalize.
Normalize.
And I want to say this.
What's the black?
Maybe you're getting to a point.
Maybe, Hollywood, y'all want to be progressive.
Y'all need to set some boundaries, though.
I mean, this is a little bit too progressive, especially if you're a devoted Christian or maybe even a Muslim or a person that practices a particular religion.
Oh, this is a little bit over the line, don't you think?
And the only reason why I say this is a little bit over the line because this is on YouTube.
It's got 130 million views to its kids being exposed to this.
Yeah.
That's why I say it's over the line.
If I knew this was just consensing adults, oh well.
But kids is what drive the music industry.
Yeah.
That's why I think it's over the line.
And I want to make an important point.
We have conserved YouTube channels like Pringle You.
Some of their videos are being censored.
You actually have to be at the age of 18 to watch the video.
Like they were banning videos like the Ten Commandments.
Yeah.
Right?
Or you had to be able to log in because it was age-restricted.
Yeah.
Why is this not age restricted?
Or the videos not, or some of that videos don't come up in a search.
Yeah.
But you type in Lil Nas X.
This is right at the top.
Yeah.
I guarantee you this ain't showing up in China.
It might.
Nah.
You can ban YouTube.
Yeah.
They got their own YouTube.
They got their own propaganda to sell.
I want to say one other thing.
What's the white version of Cardi B in music?
Or the white version of this dude, Lil Nas.
Ain't no such thing.
Ain't no such thing.
It's got to be.
No, it ain't.
I'm just playing around.
It ain't.
I just wanted to make that point.
Like, I just think they're using black people.
And they're also word of the day kids is emasculate black men.
Yeah.
I mean, but he's gay.
I get it.
But if he had the same talent, if he was the same dude he is now and he was just straight, would he be getting the opportunities that he's getting right now?
Yeah.
Or but because he's gay, they're giving him these opportunities.
It's like they're not a leeway.
Yeah, they're not like pushing people with like great talents.
You just got to fit into a certain box.
Yeah, not to say that Lil Nas is not a great talent.
Yeah.
If you're gay, okay, you're pushed to the front.
Yeah.
If you white and you sound like Lil Nas, you ain't getting no playtime.
Maybe if you gay as hell.
Yeah.
I mean, you look at some of the music that people are starting to question, especially from the conservatives, especially people that are Christian, it's always black.
You look at our TV shows, a lot of us based around crime, drugs.
I mean, one of the hit TV shows, power, it's around drugs.
I mean, our music is based around drugs, gangs.
You don't see white people pushing this type of stuff.
You don't see white artists being thrown in these same positions.
Well, white people say it too.
They'll say cocaine and stuff.
White people got to get them a good line of coke.
No, man, but they, in the black community, man, they make it like it's worth a life living.
It's like, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I mean, the music, I mean, you talk about killing other blacks and shooting, killing cops.
And I mean, you don't see whites talking about stuff like that.
You don't see the same issues in the white communities as we do in.
It makes you think they're greenlighting minorities to do this, but they're not greenlighting whites to do this.
Yeah.
That's the only problem I have with it.
Yeah.
But hey, you either believe in freedom or you don't.
I just think they're using black people to fit a certain agenda to put out.
Well, it's easy to use a black person to push the message because you can't touch a black person.
Black people get away with a lot because they got that black card.
Right.
Like they say, white people got white privilege.
They got that white card.
It's like you can't attack a black person.
Or they'll call your racist.
Or racist.
Or your Uncle Tom.
So I think they use minorities too.
Yeah.
Anyway, either you believe in freedom or you don't.
Either you believe in what America stands for.
America stands for this.
They took all the Christian stuff out of schools, man.
Because they were saying that you pushing your beliefs on other people's families.
So they took it out.
But now you got YouTube pushing this.
And now you got other people pushing, like, especially in the LGBT community, non-binary.
I mean, everybody gets to push their own agenda, their own lifestyle on you, but Christians can't get the same in return.
We can't talk about our religion or we can't have religion in schools.
I mean, it's like a double standard.
It just doesn't make a lot of sense.
But at the end of the day, man, everybody that's upset at Cardi B or Lil Nas X, don't let these people be your kids' role models.
Make sure you're in their life.
You're their role models, not some rapper, not some dancer, not some movie star.
You are their role model.
But as a parent, you know, a lot of times people look up to that on TV.
Yeah.
That's why you got to be in your kids' life.
My kids have seen this.
And I sat down and had a hard, long, hard talk with them.
Long, hard talk.
Yeah.
Sound like you're screaming at them.
My son, he listened to some most wretched ass garbage rap.
Well, we did.
And I told my son, listen to the things they're saying in that song.
I mean, but we did too.
I know I did too.
We all have grown up and we listen to some garbage in life.
You just got to make sure you're in your kids' life.
These things won't affect them if you're in your kids' life and they trust you and y'all have a great relationship.
Lil Nas can come on there and give, can go up to a glory hole and suck off the devil.
It's not going to affect your family.
Cardi B, you can get on there with two.
What was it?
Cardi B and what's that other girl's name?
Megan and Stein.
They could come out with two strap-ons on stage dancing with that.
So long as you're in her life, that's not going to affect your kids.
They're going to be like, yes.
Then that's when mommy and daddy come in there.
Y'all sit down with your kids and say, look, I bought myself.
A lot of people say this is art.
It's art.
But this is real bad art.
There's always a better way, son.
There's always a better way, daughter.
And if you don't even know what your sex is, they, it's always a better way.
Mike Lindell and Equality00:03:02
Yeah.
Some people strongly believe, especially on the conservative side, that these people are going about it the wrong way.
We're not mad at you making money.
You're not doing anything wrong, but you're sending out mixed messages to a lot of people.
Mixed bad messages.
Mixed?
I'm going to keep it mixed.
Hey, some good, some bad.
Yeah.
Just say mixed.
All right, whatever.
Because it's up to your opinion.
If it's good or bad.
All right, I'm done talking.
Don't be a bigot.
I ain't a bigot.
I'm just saying, don't be a bigot.
We all got our personal bias.
No, a bigot.
A bigot is somebody that's not, what's the word I'm looking for?
You're not open to other people's lifestyles.
I'm open to other people's lifestyles.
So when Cardi B goes on stage and she's bumping buttholes with another female.
I'm not signing petitions, County County.
And Lil Nas X is rotting the devil.
I'm not spoiling all his nasty loads.
Hey.
Yeah, I'm not pushing.
I'm not signing petitions to ban people and nothing like that because I believe in the Constitution.
I believe in freedom.
I believe in America.
I don't like being censored.
Right?
Yeah.
Us conservatives, we don't like being censored.
Why y'all, y'all don't, y'all should not want to see Lil Nas X, even though you might not agree with his message or Cardi B's message.
Censorship is just bad all the way around.
All we want is everybody be treated fairly.
Fairly?
Yeah.
And what's the word I'm looking for?
Equal.
Uniformally.
Is that a word?
I think so.
It sounds like one.
I don't know, though.
This is go with equality.
Everybody likes that word.
Yeah, equality.
Yeah.
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