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April 1, 2026 - American Journal - Breanna Morello
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The American Journal: Trump Says Iran’s “New Regime President” Has Asked For Ceasefire, But USA Will Continue Bombardment Until Hormuz Strait Reopened - FULL SHOW - 04/01/2026

Rex Jones and Tim Tompkins dissect Trump's 2026 Iran strategy, where the U.S. continues bombardment until the Hormuz Strait reopens despite a ceasefire request. They critique tactical errors like bombing before tank deployment, which Lawrence Wilkerson warns leads to heavy losses, while debating if Iran must adopt a brutal approach or risk regime change. The hosts also analyze global housing unaffordability, noting BlackRock owns only 20% of U.S. homes, and condemn the killing of 180 schoolgirls as genocide, urging listeners to demand excellence from officials. [Automatically generated summary]

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rex jones
infowars 48:31
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sulaiman ahmed
18:12
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tim tompkins
49:28
Appearances
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alex jones
infowars 02:20
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andrew breitbart
00:39
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angus dalgleish
00:50
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batya ungar-sargon
newsnation 00:50
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donald j trump
admin 01:32
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dr thomas seyfried
00:39
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graham stephan
02:05
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harry enten
cnn 01:18
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joe kent
00:41
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jon bowne
infowars 00:42
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larry c johnson
01:29
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lindsey graham
sen/r 00:33
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nicolas hulscher
00:41
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roger avary
02:22
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benjamin netanyahu
isr 00:22
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conan obrien
00:14
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dr janci chunn lindsay
00:11
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gen jack keane
fox 00:08
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kevin mckernan
00:15
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laura ingraham
fox 00:19
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matt gaetz
oann 00:21
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mel gibson
00:20
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peter robinson
00:22
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billy in oklahoma
callers 01:01
brandon in ohio
callers 00:46
tim in california
callers 02:24
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Speaker Time Text
Reality Created by Belief 00:03:46
roger avary
These revelations of that, you know, the elites at a very high level, and we actually know the basic number of them as well, are doing human trafficking, human rape, and human sacrificing of children because they're the closest to God.
And when I like read this, I mean, it's unthinkable.
Like, you don't want to believe it.
And so I mentioned it on Joe Rogan.
But I also mentioned that I was starting an AI company.
And what shocked me is after the show, more people wanted to talk about the AI thing, and more people were upset about, you know, that I was starting an AI company than they were about, you know, this nightmare of elites eating babies.
conan obrien
It's the first time since 2012, first time since 2012, that there are no British actors nominated for best actor or best actress.
unidentified
Yeah.
conan obrien
British spokesperson said, yeah, well, at least we arrest.
Our pedophiles.
roger avary
So, and so then I started thinking about why.
Why is this happening?
And I mean, we've seen people who have spoken about it, who have been, who have participated in it and who have left.
It's a kind of, It's an initiation that you go through to become a confidence initiation that you go through to become part of a team.
And that's when I realized that this is not something that's unique to the elites, that human nature involves these kinds of hazing initiations, or else we wouldn't see it happening since childhood.
peter robinson
Andrew Breitbart, I'm quoting you, in a newspaper interview he gave last year discussing the people who run Hollywood, quote, uh oh, yes, quote, I'm telling you they're uninteresting.
They're vicious, they're vitriolic, they're really, really not good people, and I'm willing to say that on the record.
Is there any of that that you regret?
unidentified
No.
peter robinson
What makes them really, really not good people?
andrew breitbart
Well, I'm not saying the entirety, but the ones who have controlled Hollywood for the last 40 years, that quote could be attributed to the campus left as well.
It could be attributed to people who are in charge in Venezuela right now.
Anywhere where the left gets control, you start to see political correctness run amok.
You start seeing dissenting views quashed.
They use projection.
Right before they do so, they start attacking the people that they're about to go after of being guilty of the very things that they do.
alex jones
And lesser magic, which the Satanists do, they'll tell you they show the thing in play before they do.
They believe it makes it happen and it gives it more power once they do it.
And And then you have the Podesta plan that if Trump won, they would actually do this and have the military turn against Trump.
And now they've tried it.
It's not an endorsement of Trump.
He's doing some things I don't like right now.
The point is they are literally pre programming this and admitting it.
unidentified
Yeah.
roger avary
And they're willing it into happening.
And they're showing everyone an example of what it would be.
So that, again, the revelation of the method, you see what's there.
And it makes it OK for it to happen.
And it's a form of also predictive programming.
Religious Structure and Pressure 00:15:25
alex jones
And you started to do that on the show, but then I do it too.
He cut you off on another subject.
Elaborate, because I've studied the Graham Grimoires, Black Magic, all that stuff to understand these people.
They talk about you have to show them, you have to tell them that's a metaphysical rule.
It also gets them ready.
And then it makes it even more powerful when you actually do it.
And then you realize that they're doing this.
Speak to that if you can.
roger avary
Well, we live in a universe of mind.
And the one thing I've started to realize is that these kinds of forms of spells, this magic is real.
When you believe something enough, you create a reality.
alex jones
Yeah, we call it a spell.
What it is is a narrative to control your mind, and we can build incredible things.
So it's a program.
roger avary
It is a program.
You select it, you project it, you expect it, and then you collect it.
It's the spec method, and it actually works.
And so people who are using it for, you know, there's good spells and bad spells, and there's spells that are promoting humanity, and then there's spells that are disintegrating humanity.
rex jones
Welcome back to the number one most powerful morning broadcast in the world.
I am your host, Rex Jones.
Joined by Tim Tompkins, of course, sitting here in studio today, running up the news for you guys, going through it with a fine tooth comb and from a 30,000 foot view, but also at the ground level.
Tim, how are you doing today?
tim tompkins
I'm doing fantastic.
You know, today's another day.
rex jones
It is.
Today is another day.
unidentified
That's another day.
tim tompkins
We get to do this again.
Always a pleasure to be able to have fun on this show.
rex jones
Yeah, I mean, isn't it just a blast to be able to come in here and get prepped and work with the crew?
And then we get to sit in here and basically, Do our show on the network, and yes, it's phenomenal.
I love doing it, I know you do too.
I thought yesterday went really well as well.
tim tompkins
Yesterday was actually a really good day.
Um, I think Simon, we had Simon Dixon on yesterday, and he just had a lot to unpack about these hidden systems and the financial industrial complex.
rex jones
We kept asking him questions, and we were kind of looking to get to some like breaking news type of stuff, but he wants to give you like a deep level overview on every point.
And we really hope we know our viewers and listeners are like really highly intelligent people that like those kinds of conversations.
We appreciate you being here today.
We hope to get you more breaking news updates.
Yeah, that's what Suleiman does.
tim tompkins
That is exactly what Suleiman does.
So, we have Suleiman on at the bottom of the third hour at 10 o'clock.
He's going to be coming on.
He's one of those guys that actually watches breaking news as it happens.
He's in spaces for like what?
Like 12 hours a day?
rex jones
So, this is a guy that's live like six out of seven of the days of the week.
He's live for like 12 to 14 hours.
He's on these calls, and what they do in these calls is a room, it's a Twitter space.
We kind of all know what they are right at this point.
But it's just people sharing the latest breaking news based on local events, people that live in these areas, people that know military officials, just constantly calling in breaking news, calling in update, explosion, chaos, war.
And he's the guy, really, since the 12 day war, that's been tracking all of it.
tim tompkins
Yes, he has been tracking it.
rex jones
So it's not just a thing he started to do now.
So there's a lot of context he'll be able to give us as well for what's going on.
And what I really want to know, and I know you probably want to know this as well, Tim, is what the hell do the civilian population think of what's going on right now?
You look at these areas and you're like, When is a revolt going to ensue?
tim tompkins
Now, which region are you talking about?
The Iranians?
rex jones
The Gulf states.
tim tompkins
The Gulf states.
rex jones
The Gulf states specifically.
tim tompkins
Okay, so they were talking about this yesterday in a spaces that I was in, and these two guys were debating.
Actually, someone was debating with Simon.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
And somebody was trying to say that, you know, the Gulf states would just start revolting against their leadership.
But no, they're honestly, they're mostly happy because they have a good standard of living and they have all the things they need.
The only scenario I could see where they would revolt.
If you have a scenario where the desalinization plants are taking down.
rex jones
But that's not like a far off scenario that's very realistic.
I mean, that's what's happening right now.
They're hitting civilian infrastructure already on both sides.
And you talk about the people being comfortable.
They're comfortable until the power goes off.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
So, like, it's a very fragile situation.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
I mean, now that does open up the door for that to happen on the other end because Iran also has the same issues where they don't just have endless resources of water, they also have salinization.
rex jones
Sure, but their desalinization only accounts for 3% of their total water pool, whereas some of these nations, it's a majority.
I mean, you're right.
If you look at Israel, for example, and this is just why, like, me and Tim were anti war, we look at it just from a perspective of, like, why would you do this?
We're not like, We're taking America and Israel side.
We're also not like we're taking the Iranian side.
That's not our position.
We look at this as like, oh, well, the Mercedes hit the 18 wheeler on the highway, and there's a giant eight car fire now.
And then there's body parts everywhere in the street.
Why the hell would you do this?
Is that not your calculation as well?
tim tompkins
Yeah.
And here's the thing I see criticism.
I get criticism every single day, depending on how you look at it, what your opinions, what your views are.
rex jones
We're the worst people ever.
unidentified
Go ahead.
rex jones
Go ahead.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
rex jones
I'm horrible.
I'm a little impish today.
tim tompkins
No, but it is true.
Everyone's entitled to opinion.
But at the end of the day, we are trying to also find our way through the information just like everybody else.
rex jones
And we can make mistakes.
tim tompkins
Yeah, we can make mistakes, but there's breaking news.
Like every single day, there's something new happening on the cycle.
rex jones
So you want to get to that?
Let's get to Dear Leader's latest tweet.
And here's the thing we always put together a great presentation when we come in here.
But at the same time, when we come in here, a new Trump tweet immediately drops.
It's like a feature of the show.
I'll go ahead and read it now.
tim tompkins
This is at 7 44 a.m.
rex jones
Yep.
April Fool's Day, maybe it's a joke.
Iran's new regime president, much less radicalized and far more intelligent than his predecessors, has just asked the United States of America for a ceasefire.
We will consider when the Hormuz Strait is open, free, and clear.
Until then, we are blasting Iran into oblivion, or as they say, back to the Stone Age, President DJT.
So I don't believe it's a new guy other than Prochevsky.
And Prochevsky has been very clear throughout this entire thing.
Prochevsky was a moderate.
And he was elected because there is that large portion of the Iranian people that do want to work with the West and want to be more liberal and secular and these things, right?
But as we did a deep dive on, maybe we need to do it again.
Tim, you explained very clearly how their leadership structure works.
Maybe you could break that down.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
So the Iran system is a little bit different.
Ever since they overthrew the Shah, they used to have a different, they used to kind of have like a monarchy system back in the 50s when the Shah was in place.
And then.
You had the 70s hit and then Ayatollah came in.
They made it more of a religious structure.
So, with the supreme leader, the supreme leader is almost like a walking authority on earth.
rex jones
And I say, there's Allah to them, there's Muhammad to them, and then there's that guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Supreme leader is like right up there.
rex jones
He's a Shia Muslim, yeah.
unidentified
Right?
tim tompkins
And so then he also delegates and dictates some of the other people that are underneath him as well.
But again, he is the top of the spear.
rex jones
And he runs the IRGC and a panel of Clerics are the people that he's supposed to be held accountable to.
The government is kind of like it's a lesser organization than the actual military.
The supreme leader makes national security decisions.
tim tompkins
IRGC has a lot of control over the country and the direction.
And the president is kind of like almost like a puppet head in certain aspects.
He focuses more on domestic issues.
rex jones
I would just say it's more like a secretary of state, perhaps, or not even secretary of state, like secretary of the interior, kind of a guy that handles domestic cabinet like positions.
But let's get to this because it's everything we're talking about and more from CBS News.
Trump to give an important update on Iran at 9 p.m. tonight.
Okay, now we've also seen Keir Starmer come out.
We've also seen the Australian prime minister come out, and they're all talking about the straight.
They're talking about the oil crisis.
I think this is going to be a preamble for the ground invasion.
unidentified
What do you think?
tim tompkins
You know, this could be either a fiery speech where there's something that comes out of it, or it could be a nothing burger.
rex jones
I think we're out of nothing burgers.
unidentified
Are we?
rex jones
Dude, all right, so like me and Tim, like we're working at the nothing burger shack.
Like we're, I'm flipping the burgers, you're putting them in the bag, giving them to the guy at the window.
Like we got a whole system going.
And then we're out of nothing burgers.
And then we have an actual, like, the big enchilada is coming and we're not prepared to cook it.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
I feel like that's what this is because how many Trump speeches have we watched?
We're like, this is going to be the thing.
He exposes the globalists, he's out of prison.
And he's just like, My runways are the best, big, beautiful runways like he did at the RNC right before he got elected.
I think we're out of those now.
I think it's going to be crashing out for real.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
I think he's at the point where he's feeling the pressure.
He has to be feeling the pressure.
No question.
The rest of the world is feeling the pressure, and people at home with gas being at $4 a gallon are feeling that pressure.
So, yes, you're right.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
And then Hegseth says that the upcoming days will be decisive.
Like, what does that mean?
tim tompkins
I think it means more bombs.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
Didn't they just use a bunker buster bomb yesterday?
rex jones
I'm sure.
I think we only had 33 of those in our inventory.
So it's just a complete disaster.
To add on to the complete disaster, the U.S. deploys a third carrier strike group to the Middle East.
And this is going on in California right now.
And go to the NBC article.
Another carrier strike group has deployed out of San Diego.
The U.S. military or the U.S. Navy confirmed one month into the war on Iran.
See, it wasn't a war.
Remember when it wasn't a war?
Remember when it was.
tim tompkins
Strategic military operation, Rex.
rex jones
But seriously, like, do you remember when it was 24 to 48 hours?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
I mean, we said.
rex jones
I get why they were saying that.
tim tompkins
Well, we said the Ukraine Russia war was going to end within 24 to 48 hours.
rex jones
That's an excellent point.
The USS Theodore Roosevelt departed Sunday to conduct, oh, that's nice, routine operations.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
Leading naval force.
We're going to war.
We're already in a war, but it's expanding now.
Naval forces into the Indo Pacific, a spokesperson for the U.S. Third Fleet said, adding that the flagship of the Carrier Group has more than 5,000 sailors and Marines.
Who are highly trained, tested, and certified in all warfare areas.
In the interest of operational security, we do not discuss future operation schedules or specific personnel numbers.
The spokesperson said before noting a carrier group's mission can be changed at any time.
So they're going to combat.
And the thing is, you can play cute with the language, you can do little rhetorical games.
Everyone knows what's going on.
And because we've been doing the daily coverage, we've known what's been going on for weeks at this point.
And that's why we have to talk about these same things over and over again.
This is a civil service to people, letting them know, hey, wake up.
Wake up, wake up and smell the roses.
We're going to war, okay?
Your sons and daughters are going to die.
You're going to spend more and more money.
You're going to be broke domestically.
That's the deal, right?
That's MIGA, M I G A. Make Israel or Iran, doesn't matter which, great again.
The president literally said it himself.
unidentified
He did.
tim tompkins
And it's so weird to watch this all play out because we've had conflicts and wars over specific time periods, but nothing like this.
Sure.
Because this is now the inflection point of a new world order.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
Because that is, this is the transition.
Yes.
Everyone's seeing that the American dollar is trying to get its last strike and claw for money.
For survival, right?
Yeah.
Because of everything that happened since COVID.
I was just doing a thought experiment and not to take away from it.
unidentified
No, no, go ahead.
Go ahead.
tim tompkins
But if COVID never happened, imagine what would have changed.
Because COVID was almost an inflection point in itself where it changed the psychology of the entire globe and specifically America.
rex jones
These crises, right?
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
Well, I mean, look, you're locked down.
You have time to think.
A lot of transition happened.
And I'm just thinking about like Biden messed up the whole economy, they broke $6 trillion.
And so it created this ripple effect of just change after change after change.
And it's just accelerating.
Like, we haven't taken our foot off the gas in like six years, folks.
Just think about that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Every single year, something new has come out, something crazy, even more crazier than the previous.
rex jones
That's so true.
I would say, even longer than that.
For a decade straight, we failed to take our foot off the gas.
I mean, you look at the initial years of the first Trump administration, like that golden era period, which was really real.
Between like 2016 to like late 2018, right?
And that's because we weren't involved in putting our foot on the accelerator.
But now that we've done that, there are no breaks anymore.
We're going to go off the cliff.
tim tompkins
Well, what do you think is the break?
Like, how do we, is it, we lose the Republicans and we lose the midterms and Democrats come in and they start filibusting everything?
rex jones
And we got to primary the bad ones.
We got to get really good people in there.
I don't care if they're Republican, independent.
It doesn't matter at this point.
Here's the thing this is why I know, like, We cover a lot of different topics and you cover analytical systems, like to do the deep research.
For me, I am passionately anti war.
And I believe every American or most Americans, like 75 plus percent, if they are properly explained or if it's properly explained to them what's been going on, what's been taken from them, what they've, we've all been robbed.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
So it's easy to go up to somebody and say, hey, here are the facts.
Someone came in your house and took all of your precious goods.
tim tompkins
Well, and now we're seeing all of the dissatisfaction play out in the polls, do we not?
rex jones
Yes, absolutely.
And that's an excellent transition.
Can we go to, let's see where it is on the clip?
tim tompkins
Clip number 11, I think.
rex jones
Clip number 11, Donald Trump's net approval rating.
I believe that is.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
Let's go ahead and roll that because I'm curious.
rex jones
Absolutely.
harry enten
Costs.
Take a look here.
Take a look at Donald Trump's overall net approval rating.
This is the lowest of his term, the lowest of his second term.
We're talking about minus 17 points, 17 points underwater.
And unlike in Donald Trump's first term, In which he was negative basically throughout his entire term.
Trump actually started off in positive territory here in his second term, but now he's at the lowest point of his second term.
But there's an even bigger comparison to be made, okay?
So obviously, Trump was elected once back in 2016, then he took a four year break, and then, of course, he's serving his second term and it's his second presidency.
So I went back and I looked at all of the presidents at this point in a presidency, all of them, all of them at this point in a presidency, and guess what?
Donald Trump is the lowest.
Ever, the lowest ever at this point in a presidency, lower than Joe Biden, lower than Jimmy Carter, lower than Ronald Reagan.
He's lower than all of them, all of them at this point in a presidency.
You know, you can make any sort of swimming comparison you want.
Maybe you want to make a comparison with a diver like Greg Luganis.
Maybe you want to make a swimming comparison with Michael Phelps.
Maybe if you're me, like an old Jewish soul, you want to make a comparison with Mark Spitz.
Either way, he is very much.
Calculated Political Threats 00:08:02
tim tompkins
You heard it.
unidentified
All of them.
tim tompkins
All of them, Rex.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
And here's the thing I'm going to turn myself down the headphones here.
I keep forgetting to do that.
Here's the thing that's so wild about this the argument to people watching us right now that are getting angry, they're going, they're using CNN and CNN is fake news.
Donald Trump told me that.
Okay.
Well, Donald Trump also told you that when they gave him 100% approval rating and said that everyone liked him and that nobody else, he got better ratings than Kim Jong Un, basically.
We have to accept that.
So this, therefore, must also be true.
tim tompkins
Well, even if you.
Whatever, who this might be from CNN.
I think that's what you're saying.
Sure.
Even if you look at Fox, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Fox is reporting, I think, above 60% disapproval ratings.
And I've seen plenty of videos, screenshots of that.
unidentified
Sure.
tim tompkins
Maybe if we can find something like that, it's across the board and it's not hard to find the facts, you know.
And you can live in a box or put your head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening, but it doesn't matter whether it was a Democrat or whether it was a Republican.
No one wants to be in these situations or lied to, and that's what's driving these poll numbers.
unidentified
Sure.
rex jones
The argument that I'm making by pointing out the CNN hypocrisy is what we see on Fox News a lot with the polling and with the propaganda, really, is the reinforcement of.
The base still supports President Trump.
The base, the base, the base.
You hear this over and over and over again.
They're not worried about the independent.
They're not even worried about the Democrats.
And I think it's funny that we hear them talk about the midterms so much.
They don't care about the midterms at all.
They know they're going to lose everything because of their foreign policy.
They made a calculated decision to spend their political capital now, in my opinion.
tim tompkins
Well, here's the thing, Rex.
When I was kind of more on the left side back in the early 2020s, I was looking at all these Democrats drinking the Biden Kool Aid and they're just like, Gulping that stuff up.
And I'm like, guys, do a trick on it.
They're doing backflips on it.
unidentified
That's right.
rex jones
Summersault.
tim tompkins
So it's like, I'm like, do you guys not see the issues here?
Yes.
Are you not feeling the fact that your inflation's almost at 10%?
And you just continue to defend this man.
I had an entire argument with my cousin.
I'm like, you're deranged.
You don't know what you're talking about.
You're not keeping up with the facts and you're just continuing to take it.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
Well, you know, the base still supports him.
We think he's right about everything.
We never disagree.
Please, you could buy MAGA Murphy.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
And that's the argument from everybody online that's still supporting this.
And here's the thing don't do that.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
Wear the badass Iraq Iran war t shirt that we have.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
Because that's promoting a true and real message.
And that's the reason why we do things here like that is so that you can be proud to wear something on your chest that is a true adventure.
It's not an adventure anymore to wear merchandising for a sports team that's betrayed you or sold you out.
It's pro American to be anti war.
Period.
tim tompkins
And don't you guys have those like 1776?
Like, I mean, The original founding fathers, they had their own.
That is what we should really be anchored in.
rex jones
And that's exactly what my dad says.
And everyone's going, You're not MAGA.
You're not MAGA.
Well, we were 1776, far before we were MAGA.
We were constitutionalists.
We were classical liberals, as we described ourselves.
And look how all the art and wonder and beauty and history has been taken out of politics and all the knowledge of people that came before us and what they said about these specific situations.
And it's been replaced by an orange guy on TV.
And the boomers just watch it.
And we watch it too.
So we're just as guilty.
Now, uh, let's go to clip one, actually.
tim tompkins
Let's go to clip one.
rex jones
Let's go to Trump.
unidentified
Better quality prices today, they hit four dollars.
donald j trump
We're four dollars, yeah, and we have a country that's not going to be throwing a nuclear weapon at us in six months.
unidentified
But Americans are feeling the effects in the interim, and they're also feeling a lot safer.
What is the plan to bring them back down?
donald j trump
All I have to do is leave Iran, and we'll be doing that very soon, and they'll become tumbling down.
Stock prices were up today almost to a record because they.
Know two things.
Number one, we have a safe country.
We had to take a little detour because we had a madman named Khomeini who sadly is no longer with us.
tim tompkins
Khomeini.
rex jones
So, all those Americans, I believe the 13 Americans dead and the hundreds of casualties so far, the hundreds of injured, it's just a little excursion, a little detour we have to take.
tim tompkins
Hey, Rex, calm down.
Just like Pam Bondi said, and now Trump's reiterating.
rex jones
Dude, the stock market.
unidentified
The SP 500.
rex jones
Dude, I keep forgetting my name.
unidentified
It's at all time highs.
That's all you need to pay attention to, folks.
We don't care if your gas price is at $4.
rex jones
Dude, when I hear that, I'm just like, I got to vote Republican down the ticket.
It's just like neural programming.
It just works on me.
And that's what they think works on you.
And they give you that information.
It's just the average American because of the price increases, they know it's not true.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
rex jones
Hey, like we covered yesterday, if the stock market goes up, these companies, if they might make more money, they pay themselves dividends off of these crises.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
We did cover that yesterday.
rex jones
Literally.
tim tompkins
We literally talked about that.
Crisis create opportunities for the companies and they do not trickle that down to you guys.
And the problem is, like you had mentioned, prices go up quickly, they ain't coming down.
rex jones
No, no.
Let's go to clip number three.
Let's go to Donald Trump mocks Iran to close this segment out.
unidentified
On this, Mr. President, the Iranian government threatened a bunch of U.S. companies today in the region.
Google, Apple.
With what?
donald j trump
What did they threaten them with?
PB guns?
They don't have much left to threaten.
unidentified
My question for you is are you.
donald j trump
I don't know.
I mean, what are they.
You made a statement.
What did they threaten them with?
I don't know.
Tell me, how did they threaten them?
unidentified
Well, all I know is that they threatened them, sir.
What does that mean?
Fair enough.
donald j trump
He said something nasty.
unidentified
Is the government in touch with these companies?
Are you helping to backstop them?
donald j trump
You don't even know what the threat was.
unidentified
What was the threat?
Threat.
donald j trump
I haven't heard it.
What was the threat?
Did they say they're going to blow them up?
They're going to hit them?
unidentified
You know what they're not going to do?
donald j trump
They're not going to hit them with a nuclear weapon.
unidentified
Is this something you're concerned about, sir?
No.
Iran's IRGC issues a warning that they will target 18 U.S. technology companies if the U.S. continues targeted assassinations of Iranian leaders beginning on April 1st.
Those companies are NVIDIA, Apple, Microsoft.
donald j trump
Most of those people are dead already.
Yeah, Peter?
tim tompkins
What do you think about this?
rex jones
I think he spent too much time at the cinema.
You know, I think he thinks that he's in a movie, and you know, he may be partially right about that.
He is in a movie, but it's not an action movie, it's a horror movie, and you're the monster.
Like that, that's where we're at right now.
And he goes, They're going to threaten us with what?
They're going to threaten us with BB guns?
No, they're, they have, the strait is closed.
unidentified
Yeah.
The strait is closed.
tim tompkins
The threat is as real as possible.
Iran knows they have some cards to hold.
unidentified
Sure.
tim tompkins
And so they're flexing those muscles.
unidentified
Sure.
rex jones
And the thing is, maybe you could even make an argument that the U.S. is, quote unquote, doing well if you use the metric of like killing the leadership and trying to destabilize the country as a whole.
You can't make the argument of like there is no battle, we've won the battle when you're actively fighting.
tim tompkins
No, that's Vietnam rhetoric.
Like, yeah, it is literally.
We've bombed Operation Orange, we got all the chemicals out there, we burned a million civilians, we killed a lot of the North Vietnamese, and we're winning.
But, sir, we haven't moved the battle lines.
Well, it doesn't matter, just pay attention.
rex jones
In Vietnam, we all we had to do was establish a base and you know, we get our people out of there and whatever.
And look how that turned out, right?
We're entering into another quagmire, and the thing that we discuss a lot on these shows is that.
You don't get to pick and choose these global decisions.
Even if you are the president of the United States, like we talked about with Simon and so many other phenomenal guests, Tim, the reality of these transnational capital forces and just entities around the globe, the president and others are middle management at best.
So we're entering into an age now where people have been trained to focus on the leadership instead of the man behind the curtain.
Well, I'm here to tell you right now on the American Journal, that is what we focus on the man behind the curtain, what he's doing, who or what he actually is.
Immigration Moratorium Debate 00:06:54
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What's up, guys?
We're back here, the second half of the first hour on American Journal.
And look at that!
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We got some news.
tim tompkins
Would you like some fries with that nothing burger, Rex?
rex jones
I don't know.
I don't know.
I need.
Catch up with the nothing burger for sure, but we're out of them.
We got big enchiladas to share with you guys.
We got breaking news roundup.
Tim, take it away.
tim tompkins
Yeah, so we got some new things developing today.
We got a Supreme Court hearing that's happening.
The Supreme Court is going to be looking at the birthright citizenship issue.
rex jones
Trump wants to end it.
tim tompkins
And Trump wants to end it.
And Trump, I think he is going to be attending the Supreme Court as they deliberate on this.
So let's go ahead and read that article, please.
unidentified
For sure.
rex jones
The stakes in the case are high, putting on a Collision course, more than a century of executive branch action, the Supreme Court precedent and the text of the Constitution itself, or more specifically, the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment.
Of course, the headline is Supreme Court to Weigh Trump's Bid to End Birthright Citizenship.
Trump administration officials view the order in the High Court's consideration of the case as a key component of his hardline immigration agenda, an issue that has become a defining feature of his second White House term.
Opponents of this argue the effort is unconstitutional and unprecedented.
It could impact an estimated 150,000 children born in the U.S. annually to non citizens.
tim tompkins
Yeah, so this is going to be an issue because you're looking at the 14th Amendment in question here.
I want to read a little bit of the 14th Amendment for you guys because I had to go and refresh my memory because they all get blurred sometimes.
So the 14th Amendment says no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, property, or Without due process of law, nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Now, again, this is the problem with the Constitution.
It is open for interpretation, depending on who's interpreting it.
rex jones
Well, you got to look at the time period.
I believe this was intended for freed slaves and the children of freed slaves because they would try to say, oh, like this is an illegal immigrant.
This isn't an American citizen, right?
That would be the argument now.
And we live in an age now where it's estimated up to like 100 million people have migrated to the U.S. over periods of time.
tim tompkins
And look, I know why he's attacking this, right?
Because if you look at it, there are people that purposely come into the country illegally.
They have a kid.
And then as the kid grows up, eventually they can apply to have their parents stay here because there's an anchor point.
And a lot of people who come from the southern border are doing that.
So it is tricky.
I don't have an opinion to where I'm like, well, we need to end the citizenship of people being born.
I think it's a bit of a drastic play, and he's kind of.
rex jones
Grasping for straws here, but America has all these incentives to come here.
Basically, like we can pay for you to come here, we can find you a place to stay, we can give your kid citizenship if your kid is born here.
You can have remittances that you send back home.
All you have to do pretty much is cross the border.
And we've lived in time periods specifically like we criticize Trump a lot.
Biden administration was evil.
He literally told them to immediately surge the border.
You had people coming in hordes, giant caravans wearing Biden t shirts.
I mean, you can just look at the videos and images of this stuff.
I'm not making it up.
And people, That are unfamiliar with that, maybe that are more on the left or liberal side, will go, hey man, that's not true, bro.
That's not true.
People just looking for a better life.
Yes, they're looking for a better life, but they're being exploited by a predatory system to use them as a new permanent underclass.
tim tompkins
No, you're right.
And then also, they were using it to pack in specific regions to where they were trying to sway the vote into more Democrat ways.
rex jones
It's true.
You can't argue with that.
It's just a fact.
And people will criticize you, me, all of us sometimes, Tim.
We're just like, give people information.
tim tompkins
It's just true.
Well, this was actually my number one or two issue on why I voted for Trump specifically because of the mass migration and the illegal immigration.
Because I had a lot of people who I knew who came here legally and were having so many problems just to stay in the country.
They had been here for six years.
They had been paying taxes like 30 plus percent.
They're making six figure jobs, paying into the American economy.
They don't even get a social security check at the end because they're not a citizen, but they're still paying into social security.
So you see those situations and you're like, okay, this person's working really hard to stay here, and somebody just crosses over.
And they're like, put you in a hotel.
They say, go to the bodega, go get a breakfast sandwich and chill out for the next 10 years, and you're good to go.
Oh, and we'll help you get a social security card and we won't kick you out.
Whereas they make it harder for some of these educated immigrants.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
And that creates a thing where we can have the debate on legal immigration, but people coming here legally are generally trying to assimilate to the American way of life, to the American protocol and program.
But if you're just someone that comes over here and you get Flown out by the Biden administration.
They give you a hotel room.
They give you a credit card.
And they say, look, we don't care about you learning English.
We don't care about you becoming an American citizen.
We don't care about any of that.
Even if you wanted that, just have all the free money, go out on the street and start selling street food.
And then why would you assimilate?
There's no reason to assimilate.
tim tompkins
No, you're right.
And the last thing I'll say, if we want to take a more left leaning position, and I look at these things specifically, is our immigration system and the processing system for people to come in here.
For asylum, which there are legitimate cases where you're like running from the cartel and they're trying to kill you and your whole family.
Makes sense if you might want to try to come to the United States, but it's hard for them to go through it through a regular process because the courts are so backed up and they don't have a real process to actually get those people in.
So people are like, well, I'll just skip the line and I'll just come in here.
No, no, no.
You need to wait your turn in line, come in here properly.
Currency Trust and Assets 00:15:52
tim tompkins
But then we also need to make sure we have the systems in place and focus the energy on making it better.
rex jones
I support extreme immigration restriction and potentially a moratorium, probably a moratorium if I got my way, just because of how we've been used kind of as an open invitation and open invite to the world for so long.
Here's the thing the United States legally takes in between one and two million immigrants a year, the most out of any country or up there, I believe.
So the thing, the idea of America being like the fascist neo Nazi state where it's like, we don't want the immigrants here.
We don't want, we take in millions and millions for years and years.
tim tompkins
It needs to be controlled immigrants.
rex jones
We just, we need our country back.
We need our country back, and then we can worry about having more people come in here because we don't have a country right now, okay?
And we want people in here, if they are going to come, that want to be a part of our country, not a new mutated thing.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
That is the biggest key making sure that you have the best interest of our country in mind as you go into our system.
So that way you're actually pushing the country into a better direction, not degrading it and going backwards.
So, sure.
rex jones
We want ridiculously patriotic people.
Let's get into this next story.
I'll read the headline.
Maybe you want to go into it a little bit.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
So this next.
One, I found this this morning.
We've got an American journalist that was kidnapped in Iraq.
Her name is Shelly Kittleson.
That is a terrible situation to be in.
Go ahead and read this article.
rex jones
Yeah, sure.
Just a little quick thought.
You ever hear about those insane people?
They're like, We're vegans and we're going to go bike riding through Sudan and prove that the world is love.
And they get like raped and killed.
I know she's a journalist.
I know she's doing hard work, but it's just, it's like, why?
Like, I am not leaving the continental United States.
tim tompkins
FAFO, bro.
FAFO.
rex jones
Good grief.
Okay.
RIP, super sad.
We hope she's alive.
I don't think she's dead.
Shelby Kittleson, a contributor to All Monitor, was contacted by U.S. officials multiple times with warnings about threats against her.
Pray for her safety.
Not trying to make light of anything.
Sorry.
Bit pig headed of me to do that, including as late as last night, a U.S. official told News Nation, Al Monitor is a Washington, D.C. based media organization offering reporting and analysis from the Middle East.
Here's the quotation We are deeply alarmed by the kidnapping of Al Monitor contributor Shelby Kittleson to Iraq on Tuesday.
We call for her safe and immediate release, the outlet said in a statement.
We stand by her vital reporting from the region and call for her swift return to continue her important work.
Alex Putsis, a non resident senior fellow with the Atlantic Council and former Pentagon official, Confirm the abduction.
Okay, so this is confirmed on social platform X, adding that he has killed since designated U.S. point of contact.
Damn, she is the sweetest person in the world.
She doesn't have a mean bone in her body.
Blitz has said in a text to News Nation affiliate The Hill, adding that she's an American citizen who has worked in Iraq for years and also reported from Syria.
Very, very tragic.
We hope that she is back home free, safe soon.
Absolutely horrible.
unidentified
Yes.
rex jones
Another, hopefully not casualty of this regional conflict.
Mm hmm.
tim tompkins
Who's grabbing it?
I mean, those areas are destabilized at this point.
I mean, not a lot of people still talk about Iraq or Afghanistan, but they're still going through their own stuff.
rex jones
They're blaming Hezbollah for it.
A current U.S. official blamed Khatib Hezbollah, an Iranian backed military group with ties to the RGC, for disappearance.
Plexus also suggested on social media that Kittleson might have been taken by Hezbollah.
I said, read that again.
The group is reported to be financed in part by the Iraqi government.
Two cars, let's see if we can get this up, reportedly involved in the kidnapping, one of which Crashed overhead shot or article, please, in the town of Al Haswa while fleeing authorities.
The Associated Press reported.
Look at that damage, dude.
He got shredded.
One suspect was apprehended, but their identity has not been shared, the ministry said.
And these were two damaged vehicles potentially involved in the kidnapping.
unidentified
Insane.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
Insane.
Now, this might be independent in a vacuum.
It may not pertain to the Iran Israeli America war, or it could be connected.
But I mean, Hezbollah is one of those.
Proxy nations that is out of Lebanon.
rex jones
I don't know if I believe that they took her.
tim tompkins
You think it's independent?
rex jones
It might be people trying to get money.
It might be them, it might be somebody else.
We'll track this as it develops.
tim tompkins
I don't want to speculate on it.
rex jones
No, we'll keep an eye on this story, Tim.
Good get there.
I want to go to this Larry Johnson clip making his Iran war prediction.
And I have that here.
matt gaetz
But he hasn't made the final decision yet, Larry.
I think that he is hoping.
That there is some sort of deal that emerges out of this with Iran.
Do you see that as a potential possibility?
larry c johnson
No, none at all.
In fact, what he's done today, and this is open source, I'm not revealing any classified information.
They are deploying F 16s.
New F 16s are being ferried out of Germany into Israel and/or Jordan.
They're not flying across France or Spain because they've said they don't want any U.S. aircraft to fly that way.
A 10s have now departed.
The United States, A 10s are unrivaled.
There is only one reason for those.
That is close air support for ground troops.
It has no other mission.
Apaches have also been loaded up.
matt gaetz
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
They've used A 10s in the Straits, Larry.
They've flown the A 10s at low altitude in the Straits to kind of shoot at Iranian fast boats.
So I think there's a way in which the A 10s get used in theater for a different reason.
larry c johnson
But that's the point.
He's not backing off.
He's ramping up.
This is ramping up.
And so, look, the reality is Iran has destroyed 13 multi million billion dollar radars, 13 of them.
That's why that AWACS was in the theater the other day because the AWACS was making up.
For those 13 radars.
You know, two or three of those radars went for over $1 billion apiece.
And another three or four were in excess of $500 million.
We burned right through those.
The fact of the matter is, we have now depleted our Patriot missile batteries and the THAADs.
They are depleted.
And so we no longer have what is supposed to be our main defense against Iranian ballistic missiles.
So this war is not going as Donald Trump and the Department of War are claiming.
They are lying to the American people.
About what's happening.
rex jones
money money money money money money gone money burned dude that's that's the thing it's like they hit that uh signal plane the AWAC or whatever he said it's called i'm not a military expert just a geopolitical enthusiast at the end of the day they hit that plane and that plane was only there because of all the radars being blown up so like this is not whatever trump called it in the clip a minor excursion or like a little detour we got to take a little trip you know down the road to get some milk well dad took a trip to get some
milk, and now Dad's not coming back.
tim tompkins
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
At least we know where the 200 billion is going.
rex jones
Yep.
tim tompkins
We know where it's going, guys.
So the new F 16s and the new planes that are flying over there, I was surprised that France and Spain did that, where they said, You're not allowed to come through our airspace.
rex jones
Well, I mean, the cracks are really starting to show.
And you think about Europe as just the biggest lapdog vassals for the American empire.
And granted, Italy and Spain.
Spain, they're a little bit more on the fringes, a little bit more nationalist than, say, like, UK, France, Germany, like countries like that.
Like, here's Starmer is our like punk B word.
And we literally, like, we do whatever we want.
That's where, like, we're sending bombers in and out of there right now.
And they're like, we're not involved.
We're not involved.
They're like, yes, you're directly involved.
But these other nations, they have more of a spine because it's the emperor has no clothes.
He's naked.
tim tompkins
I think for France, Macron has been pissed off more than any other.
European country.
He's been disrespected probably more than any of the other European leaders.
Remember that motorcade where he made him walk like five blocks to the White House?
rex jones
Yeah, Trump made Macron walk down the street like a plebeian.
tim tompkins
So, and he's got like TMZ in his face and you got all the cameras like flashing.
rex jones
I'm like, oh, a guy on the street, take a photo.
unidentified
Take a photo with me.
rex jones
And it's like, you're not on like NCIS.
tim tompkins
And he's on the phone with Trump.
And he's like, Hey, man, I can't get past this barrier.
Can you do something?
He's no, you can walk, it's only a short distance.
rex jones
You know, France isn't a real country, the U.S. is America is a real country.
You have to walk here.
tim tompkins
Well, and just not even just that.
And we'll go back to the original point is you look at when we have the UN and the speeches that go on there, and you see Trump, and he's like, You all suck.
Yes, you have no military capacity, you are nothing without America.
They remember these.
rex jones
Well, this is an excellent tie in.
Let's go ahead and go to the article.
Trump wants to take us out of NATO because of Iran.
Let's go to the New York Post one.
tim tompkins
Oh, this is the video.
Yep.
unidentified
Look at that.
rex jones
Yep.
tim tompkins
He's like, sir, sir, I need to go.
unidentified
Wow.
tim tompkins
He's like, yeah, no, you can walk.
rex jones
I am the president of France.
I walk down the street like a broke actor in Austin, Texas.
You're going to take a photo now?
unidentified
I am Macron.
tim tompkins
No, like, come on.
He's pissed.
Unbelievable.
Guy kisses him on the forehead, too.
unidentified
Oh, no.
rex jones
He got mogged, bro.
He got mogged walking down the street.
That's about as bad as it can be.
Let's go to this New York Post article because it ties in perfectly to everything you're saying.
unidentified
Trump.
rex jones
Strongly considering pulling the U.S. out of NATO over Iran alliance, a paper tiger.
tim tompkins
That's what he calls him.
rex jones
Trump claimed NATO, quote unquote, wasn't there for the U.S. when Washington rallied behind its European allies in the face of Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine.
We've been there automatically, including Ukraine.
Ukraine wasn't our problem, he said.
It was a test, and we were there for them.
We've always been there for them.
They weren't there for us.
Trump's skepticism of the alliance has been well documented with dates back before his 2016 election win.
He has previously described the alliance as obsolete and told the Washington Post in 2016.
That NATO was costing us a fortune.
What does it look like to you?
tim tompkins
Yeah.
Again, more of the rhetoric.
unidentified
Now.
rex jones
Oh, I'm sorry.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
rex jones
This guy is the NATO defense secretary.
I believe Mark Root is his name.
He comes from one of those nothing countries up in Scandinavia.
He calls Trump daddy and he's gay.
He's gay, openly gay, and he calls Trump daddy.
He says, you know, daddy Trump, we have to listen.
Like we were, you were the children and you are daddy Trump.
unidentified
Mm, mm, mm, mm.
tim tompkins
Guys, these are people in positions of power.
rex jones
It's a big problem.
tim tompkins
Now, you know, the NATO thing has been something that Trump has been pushing for a while.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
I give credit where credit's due.
The other European countries were not paying their fair share.
We were being the bodyguard for every single other European nation.
Now, you look at the situation now, you know, you can't just bring everybody into a war and then cry when it's not going your way and just say, Help me.
unidentified
Help me.
rex jones
You can't declare victory in the war and at the same time say it's not a war by calling it a little extreme.
Excursion or detour and say that Americans should be happy because it keeps us safe.
tim tompkins
Could you get that meme pulled up?
I know I'm jumping out of the way.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim tompkins
Because it just ties perfectly.
rex jones
Yeah, let's get Trump NATO meme.
tim tompkins
And we'll keep talking here.
But, like, yes, I mean, you're doing the backhand thing and you're telling people one thing and then you're actually slapping them and punishing them for another thing.
rex jones
Absolutely.
tim tompkins
Yeah, this meme, I actually laughed.
rex jones
Yeah, it encapsulates everything.
tim tompkins
It does encapsulate everything.
rex jones
But, like, it's all, these are unforced errors, people.
These are.
Unforced errors.
These are things that, like, you do nothing, you get a better result.
That's what an unforced error is.
Oh, NATO sucks.
And then he invades Iran.
tim tompkins
Puts the tire in.
I used to do that as a kid.
rex jones
Why is Europe doing this to me?
Yeah, it's like you did it to yourself.
All you had to do was do nothing, basically.
And, like, we had these people eating out of the palm of our hands.
And I think you see the biggest reflection of American power in that there are still nations that are obeying us and listening to us.
And we've lost so much in this past month.
We've lost so much credibility.
We have.
Imagine if we just spent that.
Credibility on making deals and making things better around the world.
Guys, that's the message we want to convey.
Just imagine how good your life would be if there was an actual trade deal with another power that actually had resources.
But oh no, we can't ever work with them.
Russia, China, evil, evil, evil.
We are the best.
How's that working out?
tim tompkins
Well, here's the thing China is positioning itself now.
They have done a masterstroke of genius.
And this is not me praising like China.
I really am America.
rex jones
China number one.
tim tompkins
I do not want China to beat us in this race in terms of power.
Like, The United States, when it's on the right side of history, does make the right decisions.
It is a net positive.
But clip number seven, I just want to quickly play that before we go to break here because it shows.
I was looking at this and it shows specifically how you have to buy the yuan for gold.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
And I'm like, wow.
How were they able to, like, they've been sitting and plotting?
This is what I call fate.
rex jones
Boy, it's Confucianism.
All they have to do is wait for us to, you know, tire ourselves out.
But we'll go to the clip.
Excellent point.
unidentified
On Russian oil, which tells us how desperate the situation actually is getting.
And of course, China has the payment rails.
Now, what's interesting is that the yuan is not actually freely traded.
Like, you can't just go buy it on an exchange right now, like dollars or euros.
The only practical way to get yuan is to sell something China wants.
And historically, what China's always been willing to accept is gold.
So the actual transaction looks something like this you sell your dollars, you buy your gold, you sell that gold to China in exchange for yuan, you take that yuan to Iran, and then you buy the oil, and your ship gets home safely.
So China now gets to sort of be right in the middle of this transaction.
It gets to decide.
The exchange rate between gold and oil, which means China's deciding what the dollar is worth relative to everything else.
rex jones
Copying US homework.
Not good.
Bad, bad, bad.
Not allowed to do it.
tim tompkins
You know, but this is what I'm saying.
This is 4D chess.
rex jones
Yeah.
tim tompkins
When you look at how China's positioning itself, it knows that getting into military conflicts and trying to bully everybody around openly does not work.
They're like, let's do something different.
While America degrades itself, rips its own limbs apart, let's go ahead and position ourselves to where everybody realizes, hey, come over here.
It's safe with China.
You can trade with us.
But then the gold is the main thing.
Gold is a commodity that everybody in the world values.
There's going to be a point at which the American dollar, this fiat currency, is no longer going to be trusted.
And the whole point of fiat currency is it's backed by the faith.
rex jones
And when trust falls, it falls out of the sky.
tim tompkins
It falls out of the sky.
So, Imagine now you're like, okay, I want physical assets now.
And America's gold is slowly being drained, just like in the 70s, which is why Nixon had to take us off of the gold standard.
Rex, we don't even know how much gold we actually have in Fort Knox.
Parasite Medication Mechanisms 00:07:01
rex jones
Rumor is we don't have any.
And here's the thing oh, the Fort Knox audit, the U.S. Treasury audit of all the gold everywhere.
Notice how we heard all about that and they get rid of Elon.
We don't hear anything about that anymore.
They said they wanted to take cameras in there and live stream it.
tim tompkins
I mean, we need, here's the thing that would have been fantastic.
rex jones
I think.
At the root of what all of this is, is it's an attempt to distract us.
Like all these crazy stories we get every day, all the constant BS and clips, it's a, I can't use the word, it's a crap screen to just get us blinded to the reality that's taking place around us.
Because if you've been paying attention, if you've been watching what's going on, we're being ushered out, we're being replaced.
The Chinese are coming to eat our lunch and they're copying our homework to do it.
tim tompkins
And the Russians are right behind them, brother.
rex jones
Yep, that's right behind them.
tim tompkins
They're making money hand over fist.
And they get to benefit from all of the oil and be China's best buddy.
So the two of them have been winning this Cold War, unfortunately.
rex jones
And it's just, it's so mysterious.
And this is why we point out the Israel issue so much is like, why would you do this?
Like, why would the West do this and cede all this power to China or Russia?
We've heard the argument from Chase that it's about the IMEC corridor and it's about securing that.
But like, we can't win in that region.
To have that conflict, to have the reason to have the conflict, it's not a decapitation scenario, it's a new world war.
tim tompkins
And I know Simon kind of had a more complex theory where he was talking about the financial industrial complex and all the things that they're moving around and positioning where there's those people that are controlling scenes, but it's very hard to tell at this point who's actually pulling the strings and what the implications are.
Five, 10 years from now.
unidentified
Sure.
rex jones
And even more rapidly than that, we talked about how time seems to be speeding up.
Well, we hope you're feeling it with us here.
We're getting through the first hour here.
Join us in the second hour for the great, phenomenal deep dive done by Tim Tompkins.
And after that, we have Suleiman joining us in the third hour.
Breaking news, breaking updates, the hard hitting action you want.
Gray area, American Journal.
unidentified
Let's go.
dr janci chunn lindsay
Why would you hold the data for 75 years, all of the clinical data, for 75 years from these if you were trying to be transparent?
Tell me why.
kevin mckernan
This is a person who was vaccinated four times by Pfizer, one year since vaccination, tumors emerged, person was dead within a month.
We got three biopsies out of them, one post mortem.
All of them have SV40 in the origin of replication from the Pfizer vaccine.
jon bowne
SV40 or simian virus 40.
Reared its ugly head back in 1960 when scientists spotted it lurking in rhesus monkey kidney cell cultures that were being held to whip up polio vaccines.
SV40, a tumor making machine, has the large T antigen, a molecular wrecking ball that smashes into cellular control systems like P53 and retinoblastoma protein pathways, turning normal cells into rogue cancer factories.
Fast forward to 2025, and messengers from a myriad of professions are shouting from the rooftops about SV40's presence in the COVID vaccines.
angus dalgleish
These vaccines are not vaccines.
They are, in fact, gene therapy based.
This genomic integration, as the scientific literature makes clear, can lead to cancer development, immune system disruption, and more.
The sheer levels of contamination detected, Up to 145 times the permissible limit in some cases are extraordinary and far beyond what should be allowed in any medicinal product.
In my work as an oncologist in the UK, I started to see a disturbing trend as early as February 2022.
Patients who had been cancer free for many years were suddenly relapsing with aggressive explosive cancers shortly after receiving booster doses of the COVID 19 vaccine.
mel gibson
I'll tell you a good story.
unidentified
Okay.
mel gibson
I have three friends.
All three of them had stage four cancer.
All three of them don't have cancer right now at all.
And they had some serious stuff going on.
unidentified
What did they take?
Jesus.
mel gibson
They took some what you've heard they've taken ivermectin, fambendazole.
nicolas hulscher
These three advanced cancer patients experienced remission in two cases.
complete remission and in one case near remission for an extended period of time, years after initiating this fenbendazole protocol, and none of them received chemo either, right?
So this was in combination.
A few were with a surgery.
Some did receive a brief dose of radiation.
But in general, this fenbendazole was linked to extraordinarily accelerated tumor reductions in a Pretty short period of time with extended survival outcomes with no evidence of disease.
unidentified
Yeah, I was off their charts, 1498.
Yeah, the chart didn't even go that high.
That was December 31st.
I took my first course of ivermectin on my birthday, February 2nd.
February 11th, my CEA was down to 180.
Raise that up a little bit.
Wow.
alex jones
Scientists and daughters figuring out now the CIA knew in 62 that dewormers could reverse most cancers and didn't tell the public that's mass murder.
dr thomas seyfried
My parasite medications work against cancer cells, and it turns out that the parasites use mitochondrial substrate level phosphorylation in the tissue.
And these embendazole, fenbendazole kill these parasites.
So I tried it on the cancer cell, and sure as hell, it targets the mitochondrial substrate and glycolysis.
So we have a mechanism now why parasite medications are working.
But cancer is not a parasite.
All these people say cancer is a parasite.
It's not a parasite.
And tumors use a common metabolic pathway.
And a drug that works against parasites can be very effective against cancer.
And that's what we begin to see, especially under nutritional ketosis.
alex jones
So, to be clear, the anti parasite drugs cut off the same mechanism in cancer, but we now know and have known that a lot of cancer is from parasites.
Housing Market Systemic Issues 00:15:27
alex jones
It's double good.
And I don't sell that, but you can buy it online.
And my medical doctor told me years ago take this once a year as a regimen.
unidentified
I do.
alex jones
That's important information.
unidentified
You might want to.
rex jones
This is Tales of Great Ulysses by Cream.
It's a classic song by a classic band, Tim.
And we're all sailing on the sea of life.
We're on a voyage.
We're on a journey, like a white wine mom might say.
But it is true.
And we're going to go into the deep dive now and talk about those factors.
tim tompkins
Yeah, deep dive is my favorite part of the segment personally because this is the time period where I get to show you guys the research that I've done.
rex jones
Tim is extremely analytical.
tim tompkins
I'm super analytical.
I love doing this stuff.
unidentified
So.
tim tompkins
I like to talk about specific issues that are affecting you at home.
And one of the things that we need to talk about today is about housing prices.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
Now, there are mainstream media narratives.
There are narratives that even I believed myself, but I wanted to challenge my assumptions.
Now, there are sayings that like BlackRock, Vanguard, institutionalized investors are buying up all the homes.
It's leading to housing prices going up.
And I originally led with that, right?
But it was lazy of me to not look deep, precisely.
rex jones
We've done this deep dive before.
This is excellent.
tim tompkins
We've done it.
And I wanted to look specifically into what's really happening behind the scenes because it's never that black and white.
There is a gray zone to where we have to focus on.
So let's just start out here.
You know, if you've tried to buy a house lately, you have felt this.
And we can go ahead and pull up number one here with the housing prices.
But, you know, before we talk about why the housing is broken, you need to see what normal used to look like.
So for most of American history, Buying a home was not easy.
Okay.
A normal house used to cost about three times what the household per year made.
And then if you worked, if you saved, you could actually get there.
rex jones
And that was the fact of the American economy hey, even if you have a factory job, whatever, especially if you do, you're going to be able to, based on your income, afford a place to live.
unidentified
Right.
Okay.
tim tompkins
And so you've got the prices.
The prices rose, but the income did not rise.
And so now you see a relationship is gone.
And if you go back to that chart, Starting in the early 2000s, you can kind of see that the prices take off after 2020.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
And then they explode, and then the wages never catch up specifically.
unidentified
Okay.
Wow.
Right.
tim tompkins
So now we also need to talk about who's getting pushed out because it's not equal across all of the age groups.
But yeah, if you look at this, 5.8 times price to income ratio.
Now it used to be 3.5.
5.8 is a very big jump.
And you just see how the wages did not dramatically increase.
And we're going to break down so we understand how did we even get to the point where a house costs $433,000.
Right.
So let's talk about the medium age first at 1.1 because this is also important.
So in the 90s, first time buyers used to be around 30 years old.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
Then now they're pushing 38.
And just look at the end at 2024.
38 years old is when you're expecting to buy a house.
And Rex, think about it this way.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
Remember, like everyone, I was always wondering why 30 was the marker for us specifically, because as the American person or a young person, we're told that like 30 is when you want to start thinking about kids, you want to start thinking about having a house, those types of things.
But now we're not able to do that.
And so, this leads to people needing more time to save.
They need more income, and now they need more help from family.
And you're seeing an increase in people being dependent on family in order to help them buy this.
rex jones
Harrison threw this up and he threw up this image of the real stock market, not asking the crew to be wizards or find it or anything, but he shows it's the number of people that are 30, married, and have their own house.
And since the 70s, it's literally like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
You're 100% right.
But age alone doesn't just explain the story.
The real story shows when you compare the paychecks to the prices.
And we can actually see where the prices and the wages split.
So let's go up at number two.
And well, actually, this is the one we already covered.
We're actually going to go past this.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
So we're going to look at 1950 to today.
Housing prices and income used to rise together.
Then you had 2000 in which they split, never coming back.
And then the prices rise faster than the pay.
Saving doesn't help.
Promotions don't help.
Think about promotions too.
If you get a promotion or you stay within the same company, you're not getting enough percentage wise each year to be able to have increased income.
Sometimes there are companies, I worked for a company where they were giving 2% raises each year.
And that didn't even beat inflation.
And I'm sure a lot of you guys back at home experienced that as well, where your employer, rather than paying you to retain you, is like, okay, well, let's just give him a 2% and hope that he stays.
rex jones
Let's get the robot in here in a couple of quarters.
tim tompkins
Yeah, so let's go ahead and pull up that graph again because we can look at the split here.
So, like we're saying, look at the beginning of this.
You're looking at the 1950s through the 1960s, and then you have that split that happens during the 80s.
And you just see the trajectory.
Those are prediction graphs.
This is going to continue, and this is what even a K shaped economy looks like.
So, you're looking at this chart here, and we're like, what happened in the 80s?
Remember, I talked about this yesterday.
80s was Reaganomics.
That is exactly when the inflection point and all of the corporations and all the businesses decided, hey, let's stop paying the employer that's helping us produce actual productivity and increase the productivity.
Let's just go back and invest it into the company.
Now, we also need to talk about the houses themselves because not all houses are created equal.
And you got to look at the average house, what it looked like during the 50s versus now.
And it's dramatically different.
So, houses never just got.
The houses didn't just get more.
rex jones
Really quick, we got Harrison's chart up here.
This is the 30 year olds that are married and own a home.
Look at that.
Look at that.
You start around 50% and then you go down from 1950 to 2025.
We scroll down.
Look at that.
Lower or about 15 to 10%.
tim tompkins
This is a reality for our generation.
rex jones
It's declined like 500%.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
And I'm sure there's a lot of people that are going through this experience.
There's a lot of millennials that have now reached the 30s where that's the point at which they want to get their house.
rex jones
Here's the thing, right?
Like we're entitled as American citizens to be able to live in our own country, to be able to afford to raise a family in your own country, to be able to come home from work every day and have it not be a George Soros coffin apartment.
unidentified
Yes.
Right.
rex jones
And like, here's the thing.
Everyone else up until the era of the boomer and maybe the Gen X, it got better.
It got better.
It got better.
We are the first generation that's looking at living less long, it's looking at owning less property, having a lower standing of liver, lower standing of liver, lower standard of living.
unidentified
Go ahead, Tim.
Yeah.
tim tompkins
No, no, no.
And you're completely right about that.
And people are feeling that on a day to day basis.
Now, if we're looking at the average housing size, we can look up at number four.
rex jones
And that's also shrunk as well.
tim tompkins
No, no, no.
The house has grown.
So we've now demanded more.
So look at the 1970s.
I'm sorry, 1790.
The average home used to only be 831 square feet.
2023 and 2200.
Yeah, 2200.
In 2019, the average was about 2500.
Now we're coming down in size.
The thing that's important here.
rex jones
Oh, people got a little too big for their britches.
Thought they had that money, thought they had that bread.
Spoiler alert pandemic war.
unidentified
Wow.
tim tompkins
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
rex jones
Okay, go ahead.
tim tompkins
Well, okay.
There's two things to look at here.
You've got the number of people that used to live in a house.
So, more people used to live in smaller houses, and now you have people with bigger houses with less people living in them.
unidentified
Sure.
tim tompkins
Because people are having smaller families.
rex jones
People used to sleep together like seals.
tim tompkins
Well, not just that.
You're having people actually have less kids now as well.
So, you're going to have less of a household.
Now, also, we need to look at the amenities because back in the 70s and the 1950s, you had.
Bigger families, you only had one bathroom typically, and then you had no AC, no garages, none of those things, right?
And so now today you have over 2,300 square feet.
You've got smaller households of people.
You've got multiple bedrooms.
You've got central air garages, you know, things that like you require code to type in and it's the technology.
And the reason why I bring this up specifically, guys, is because when you have a bigger house, it means more material.
Is required to build that house, which makes the house more expensive on its own, just from a fundamental perspective.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
So that is a clear distinction why you're not gonna see a house cost the same.
It's not all of them.
I'm just giving you one angle to understand.
And then when the standard for people is it needs to have central cooling, that also means there's a cost that's associated with that.
Like central cooling unit costs like $15,000 alone, especially some of these newer models.
So then, All of that, when a construction worker or a contractor goes to build a house, they have to take all of that into account of, okay, people are expecting modern amenities, they're expecting these things.
We have to bake that into the price of the new home.
That way we can actually make money because no one wants to go into a business.
rex jones
We got a ton of these places now around the country that are hyper regulated to where, like, there's another additional, like in California, I assume there's another six figures minimum if you want to build anything.
unidentified
100%.
Go ahead.
Yes.
tim tompkins
And just let's look at the housing construction size on 4.1.
Maybe it's the.
Is that something that I have up there?
Or am I off here?
Yeah.
So over the past few decades, the average, I'll read this.
Over the past few decades, the average size of the American home has seen significant increase.
1950s, The average home measured about 983, and then it accommodated about 3.37 people per household.
And this is a thing that we just covered.
But then you're looking at something else.
And also, it's about not just the houses getting bigger, but also most of the land near the cities that people wanted to live near were not actually fully developed.
So, let's go back in time and think about what Dallas and Austin used to look like, let's say in the 90s.
rex jones
Especially Austin.
I mean, not even the 90s.
I can think about when I was running around in the 2000s or even the early 2010s.
You go to an area like Dripping Springs.
Let's take Dripping Springs as an example.
I used to live out in Dripping Springs for a number of years by Onion Creek, phenomenal area, great people, my favorite area around Austin, absolutely love it.
But it used to be like a wasteland out there.
There's absolutely nothing.
And when you go out there now, it's like an airport.
It's like an airport now to get in there to go past the Y. None of that was there even five, 10 years ago.
And when there's no land, when you have these houses, houses get more expensive.
They're bigger.
There's no backyard.
You live in the home.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
And that is part of the story.
And the other part that I'm highlighting is when there is.
No, uh, when there aren't as many homes, right, or an area has not been as developed, that means the land is typically cheaper at that time, sure.
Okay, so the closer you are to the center of a city, let's take Austin for example, and you're in the center, it goes out into a ripple effect, right?
And so you look at it now, Georgetown, which is the farthest north right now for where civilization is, is now the new frontier.
But it used to be that North Austin, which is only 20 minutes from downtown, very true, used to be the point at which was the last frontier, very true.
rex jones
So now Do not go to Leander.
Do not check out Leander.
Leander is terrible.
It's all built up.
It's awful.
You don't want to go there.
It actually is a very nice area.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
And then, so the point I'm trying to make here is about not just location, but everybody wants to live near a city and in an urban region.
It didn't always used to be the case.
rex jones
Because there's the amenities and the people.
tim tompkins
It's the people.
You want to be able to do things.
You don't want to live.
I'm sorry for anybody who's from Kansas.
I lived there for a couple of years.
I'm just saying this.
You don't, most people don't want to live in the middle of Kansas.
Where there's not as much going on versus one of these bigger metroplexes like a Dallas or an Austin or a Nashville.
rex jones
There's more social and financial mobility.
tim tompkins
And then just look at the population alone.
You had 150 million people in the 1950s and then over 330 million today.
So the population has almost doubled, more than doubled since then.
rex jones
I love the myth of our census.
We don't know.
God knows how many people are in the United States of America.
It could be 300 million, it could be 400 million.
Who knows?
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
So now what I'm getting at here is this supply and demand issue as well.
unidentified
Okay.
Okay.
tim tompkins
So you've got on one point, More houses have now been developed in these larger cities because more people wanted to live there.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
And then you also have not as many homes being built to catch up to meet that demand.
And also, as more people flock, like in 2020, Austin got put on my radar, somebody who didn't live in this region.
rex jones
So they started coming here.
tim tompkins
Yes.
rex jones
They started flooding here because of the pandemic and the less restrictions here.
They didn't have to worry about the stuff going on in California and New York.
I'm telling you, it was, that was apocalyptic.
Seeing all the people come in like 2021, 2023?
unidentified
Yes.
rex jones
They found out during COVID.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
So, as a consequence, more people, bigger population, more demand equals higher prices.
This is one aspect.
Now, let's talk about the starter home because the starter home has also disappeared.
rex jones
Specifically, they used to sell kits where you build a house, Sears catalog.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
So, starter homes used to be how people used to get in.
They were simple, they were affordable.
And about, you could pull up number five here.
82, about 40% of new homes were starter sized.
Now in 2023, it's only 9%.
unidentified
Wow.
tim tompkins
And it's not because people stopped wanting them.
It's because zoning blocks, small homes, parking rules raise costs, and permit freezes don't scale down.
And all of those costs hit the construction before the construction even starts.
And like I was saying, remember, these construction workers and contractors need to make money on the actual building itself, right?
It costs, there are hard costs that go into the house itself.
So, it's not profitable for them to create a starter home because of the margins now.
Okay.
rex jones
Well, they can make more money.
It's just like we see the egg price people, even though they got a consistent supply and they could make the right amount of cash and help people, it's not about helping people.
It's all about the bottom line.
That's because of the monopoly problem.
Inflation and Overregulation 00:14:55
tim tompkins
Yes.
rex jones
Go ahead.
tim tompkins
Well, and there's a bunch of things, right?
So, we're going to play this thing showing you what it's like in California, showing the permit process.
But before we get to that video, I want to explain something.
How are these prices already baked in?
Because when you look at a house, you've got permits that are needed, you've got fees, there's reviews that happen that cost money, there's delays to the production.
rex jones
Survey, all that.
tim tompkins
And altogether, all of these costs end up being 25% of the final cost of that home.
rex jones
Wow.
tim tompkins
Right?
So these costs are flat, and then the small house gets hit hardest.
So now it pushes them to build bigger houses to actually cover for the fact that they know that that 25% cost.
rex jones
Pay for luxury, quote unquote, even though they're robbing it.
tim tompkins
Well, it's not just that, it's the red tape.
We've created red tape over a long period of time where we have all these regulations.
And you know who's suffering the most from that?
California.
It is not practical to be able to build a house in California.
And we're about to show you why.
Let's go ahead and play this clip that shows.
graham stephan
All right, now, in terms of home prices, zoning, and the worst housing shortage from the entire United States, let's talk about California.
See, in many large California cities, a lot of the zoning requirements.
Is dictated by parking.
So if you want to go and build a brand new 600 square foot unit, you also have to supply an additional 300 square feet for that resident to park their car.
If they wind up building that parking on ground level, that takes away from the space that they could be using just to build another unit.
But if they go below ground, that costs a lot of money.
So either way, that needs to be figured into the cost of the overall unit and eventually the price that you pay.
Other requirements like a minimum lot size, a minimum amount of open planted space, or a minimum amount of common space.
And all of a sudden, building a 600 square foot apartment is now costing you the equivalent of building 1,100 square feet with everything else that you have to add on to it.
And of course, they have to charge, like you're buying or renting 1,100 square feet.
You also have this completely backwards permit system that creates indefinite delays, where to run plumbing, you have to get a permit for that.
But before you could get that permit, you have to go to a different department to get a permit to dig a trench.
But to get that permit, you have to go to a different department to be able to start the work after an environmental review.
Oh, and you also risk getting denied for a permit at every single step, at which point you have to resubmit and start over again from the back of the line.
Even for me, I spent over $200,000 building out a 720 square foot unit.
I paid over $10,000 in city fees and permit filings.
But then they charged me another $20,000 to fix a sewer line.
Which required me to go and get a permit from Urban Forestry to trim the city owned tree roots.
But the tree turned out to be diseased, so I had to get another permit to be able to remove the tree and another permit to be able to replace that tree with another tree.
You can't even make this up.
Getting these permits, by the way, could take hours, days, weeks, months.
You have no idea.
They could be denied at any point where you have to start the process over again.
tim tompkins
You see, do we see the equation?
When I talk about this deep dive and as I'm giving it, I'm just giving you guys facts impartially.
I'm not skewing you to one way or another.
I'm just telling you the reality of the situation because it is just easy to pin it as, well, it's just this one problem.
It's a multitude.
So the matter is.
unidentified
Yes.
rex jones
It's total rot.
And this is how empires fall.
It's very Roman.
That's what I think.
tim tompkins
And red tape and regulation, it always starts off as good intentions at the beginning.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
But then they get carried away.
They forget why they make the rules.
They add another rule on top of another rule.
And then pretty soon the system gets clogged.
And then you're spending all of this money just to build a basic house.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
And then we're paying for that on the final price tag.
And that's also why you're seeing.
Prices because houses get a comparison.
A house that's built in a neighborhood gets priced comparatively to the houses in the surrounding.
So, if all those houses are being improved or they're brand new, that means your house also has to be raised higher and higher and higher.
You can't just have one house that's in the neighborhood that's a million dollars and then everything else is a hundred thousand.
rex jones
And that's like the water level for the people.
And we're just trying to not drown, we're trying to stay above water.
And they just keep pouring more water and more concrete in the pool.
And they're like, swim, swim, swim.
The economy's great, everything's wonderful.
Well, how are we supposed to actually address these problems and get real solutions if we're not acknowledging that the problem is happening?
unidentified
Yes.
rex jones
And Trump comes out and says, well, it's good that house prices are up because my constituents, the older people, they're happy about the value of their property.
tim tompkins
Hey, All you got to do is get a 50 year mortgage.
That's the solution.
rex jones
Down 50,000, stop the market off.
tim tompkins
Going to debt for 50 years.
That was the solution.
rex jones
Thousand year mortgage.
Why can't your great, great, great grandchildren help you buy your home?
Oh, we want the thousand year mortgage right now.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
So the solution is very simple.
This is one of the things.
Let's deregulate some of these areas so we can build.
The last thing I'm going to cover, and I'm going to cover this very quickly.
Okay, it's actually we stopped building enough housing.
So let's pull up number seven very quickly and look at U.S. construction starts.
These have dropped off dramatically.
Houses rise, the prices rise, supply is supposed to follow, but it didn't.
After 2008, the home building collapsed and entry level construction never recovered.
So the population kept growing and the supply is not meeting it.
You're seeing that.
We're not building enough homes to actually keep up with all of that demand.
And that is a true supply and demand issue.
rex jones
Yeah.
And they're locking themselves out by building these luxury places that no one's going to be able to afford.
What happens is the depression comes in and we see a whole new market.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
And then COVID happened.
COVID made the situation even worse.
And then now you're in a situation where they're not able to build enough houses.
And also, it is more profitable for them to build luxury apartments because they're not making any money on these new construction houses.
Which we could be doing if we incentivize the construction.
rex jones
They want to put you in a condominium prison for the rest of your life.
You're going to pay for everything there.
Get your DoorDash there, get your little snacks and goodies, your Walgreens, and you don't leave the mile within the complex.
That's what they want.
That's what a 15 minute city is.
tim tompkins
Yeah, forget about the backyard.
What do you need?
You need the elevator to get you up and down.
unidentified
That's right.
rex jones
And when you use the elevator, you're using the evil energy because you're an evil human.
You have to pay your carbon credits every time you do it.
And hey, use your key card.
We'll get rid of keys.
You don't need a key to your house, give you a key card.
Use the key card that uses power too, even if it's just a cent a day.
Like, don't you want to pay to make the planet better?
tim tompkins
Yes, we do.
rex jones
Yes, we do.
tim tompkins
Hey, we're going to be back with the deep dive here in a moment.
We've got a little bit more left to cover.
But again, there are a bunch of factors that are coming into play here, and I'm covering them all for you.
You're going to want to stay tuned.
It gets even better.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
We will be back after the break.
Thank you for staying tuned.
unidentified
Indeed.
rex jones
We just told you about a little financial secret during the deep dive.
We got it up on the screen right now.
That's right.
1,000 year mortgage.
Make your great, great grandkids help you buy that beautiful Miami home that you want.
tim tompkins
Hey, this is the best deal since sliced bread.
rex jones
That's right.
tim tompkins
You can pass this on to your great, grandkids.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
That's amazing.
Hey, isn't that backing America's future?
And that's the argument that used to sell to you the continuation of the deep dive.
Tim Tompkins, take it away.
unidentified
Yes.
Okay.
tim tompkins
So I covered a lot of things.
I'm just giving you guys each point.
What's.
All these things are all these factors are stacking on top of each other, contributing to why housing prices have continued to increase.
We're seeing the picture now.
Another thing that we need to look at is the interest rates, especially what happened during COVID.
Okay, so let's pull up the interest rates here.
Oh, here's what we got here.
So, COVID didn't create the housing prices, but it did make everything worse.
If you look at it, we have these things called the golden handcuffs, is what I call these, right?
The industry's calling them.
Is basically showing you on this chart that only 20% of people have over a 6% rate.
A majority of people actually have a rate that they locked in during that 2021 to 2022 period where they have under a 3% to 4% rate.
And then all of that combined together, you're looking at a majority over 80% have about under that 5% to 6% range.
That creates a lock in effect in which people don't want to leave a house to go.
And get a new house at a 7% rate, which they are going back up by the way.
unidentified
Sure.
tim tompkins
So, this lock in effect creates another shortage within the supply chain.
And, you know, props to you.
Whoever was out there while like interest rates on the federal level were at 0% and you could go get that loan for 2%, I applaud you.
I really applaud you because, you know, I got the 6.5%.
And let me tell you something as a young buck, I really wish I was just born.
Maybe in 2000, maybe Rex, we should have just been.
Trading or doing something in 2009.
rex jones
We're boomers, man.
We wish we were boomers.
And then we would be sitting on the beach with all the stacks of cash and whatever, right?
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
So now that everybody's locked into place and the rates are super high, they're not coming down, and over half of the population of homeowners are actually below 4%, it means that they're not giving up.
So who's actually to blame?
And this is usually where the story goes wrong.
And this is something that I also.
Felt privy to, and you probably heard this narrative.
You were like, Wall Street buying up all the homes, private equities buying up all the homes, Blackstone, institutional investors, everything right now.
As I was almost hesitant to cover this because I'm like, people are gonna think I'm an agent being implanted for these corporations to tell you to back BlackRock, yeah, yeah, to back BlackRock.
God, I wish I was getting a paycheck from them, right?
But you know, no, I'm not.
I would never sell my soul, but all I'm saying is.
You can take it or leave it.
You can fact check me on everything that I'm about to tell you.
They're not actually the ones driving up the prices.
They're not.
Part of the equation here.
They only have a very small percentage.
So let's actually do this fact check.
Let's pull up number nine and look at the actual fact check of institutional buyers.
rex jones
You want me to read it?
tim tompkins
Yeah, go ahead.
rex jones
Fact check Do private equity firms own 20% of single family homes?
No.
Large institutional investors, defined as those owning over 100 homes, which includes private equity firms, own 3% of the single family rental stock nationwide, according to bookings.
The share is higher in some local markets in the 20 metropolitan statistical areas where these investors are the most.
They own 12.4%.
They still own far less than 20% nationwide.
The Urban Institute similarly finds they own just 3.8%.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
So, for breaking this down, the institutional buyers, the ones that we're talking about BlackRock, Vanguard, all of those, State Street, they're only buying less than 2% or less than 3% of the actual homes, which means they aren't statistically significant to be actually moving the market.
rex jones
Well, let's read the second half of that article.
Let's get that back up.
Because I think that's touching on the point you want to make.
Considering purchases rather than holdings, investors, those buying non-primary residences, bought nearly 27% of all homes sold in the first quarter of 2025.
tim tompkins
And it did go up.
What they're looking at here in the first part is the entire supply.
Then they kind of took the scope, they zoomed in, okay, well, in this year, how many?
And that is because investing in real estate has become popular and there's a lot of people that stepped in because the market calmed down.
The market was on fire, by the way, from 2020.
All the way through 2023, you couldn't get a house without going for going over asking price and going on these bid.
rex jones
You had all that money floating around from the stimulus.
tim tompkins
Yeah, you had all the money.
People were ready to buy houses.
And then that kind of dropped off.
And that's when some investors started to step in and started to buy up the houses, which leading to that.
So let's actually pull up number 10 here because mom and pop landlords are actually the ones that are contributing to the biggest supply of investors.
And mom and pops, they own about 80%.
Of investor homes.
Now let's look at this chart here.
80% is mom and pop.
I'm considered a mom and pop.
I have only like a couple of investment properties.
I worked very hard.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
It wasn't something I was given, but you've got this situation here.
That's the majority of people.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
And then you've got 14% is regional investors.
Those are kind of like smaller conglomerate, not those big State Street, Vanguard, BlackRock people.
They're like kind of people who, Buy in different areas, but they're still kind of mom and pop.
Right, right.
Okay.
And then we've got institutional investors at about 3%, and you've got smaller national investors at about 3%.
So the 80% is the thing to be focusing on here because now we have to understand of that.
Let's pull up number 11, the percent of homes owned.
Because I want to compare the investors to people who are actually living within the house and are not considered investors.
People who are just like you at home who have a house, maybe you don't have a house, but The average American, and we can compare the two and just see how much.
So, investors are only owning about 20% of all US homes.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
Okay.
This is the key distinction.
That means 80% are people who are actually inhabiting the house and living out of it in the typical American dream, as you would call it.
unidentified
Sure.
tim tompkins
That breaks down the argument here where we look at, well, it's just the big companies and the corporations buying it.
That's a lazy way of explaining it.
And I used to take that position too.
What is your thoughts?
rex jones
Well, sure.
And it's like you explained, that's kind of the default.
And we hear about these companies and how much power, all the power really they have over our economy, and that they all basically own each other.
Like BlackRock owns State Street, State Street owns BlackRock, Vanguard owns both, they both own Vanguard.
That's how it works.
And you see the shadow system go, man.
Foreign Entanglement Exposed 00:04:53
rex jones
Like, is this the reason for this?
And you go, yes, lowest common denominator, Occam's razor, simplest explanation is usually correct.
Sounds like they jacked up the housing market, but you look at it more as a systemic problem that's been impacted by inflation, the various crises that we've had, and ultimately the over regulation that's designed to force people out of business.
tim tompkins
Rex, you're 100% right.
rex jones
That's why I do deep dive.
tim tompkins
Everything comes down to a supply, demand, regulation, all of that getting priced into the market.
Also, when we made a bunch of free money and there was more liquidity and people had money, Also contributed to the problem too.
rex jones
I mean, take it for an example, the retail sector.
I mean, you look at Target, you look at places like Nordstrom.
I mean, during the slush fund period of 2021 to 2023, they had at the end of it, when things started to fall off, I believe like $5 billion in inventory that they just couldn't move because they had bought so much because the demand was crazy, right?
And it just fell off a cliff.
unidentified
You're right.
tim tompkins
And if you would think that this is only happening in the United States, you are surely wrong.
This is happening across the world.
Let's go ahead and pull up number 12.
You've got these situations happening in Canada, Australia, UK, Europe, all of these different places are experiencing the same thing that America is.
And I want to.
rex jones
The Western problem.
tim tompkins
It is not just.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, and it's not just the Western problem.
This is what I want to highlight.
Let's go ahead and roll this clip.
unidentified
Price of a typical home divided by a typical household's yearly income.
In a healthy market, that number sits around three.
But this year, something unprecedented happened.
For the first time in the report's 21 year history, not a single market was considered affordable.
While conditions vary, most of the 95 cities now fall into the seriously or severely unaffordable categories.
Meaning a typical home costs more than four to five times what a typical household earns.
And in 12 of them, things have gotten so bad, they added a new label: impossibly unaffordable, where the median home costs more than nine times the median income.
At the top of this list is Hong Kong, at 14.4 times income, and Sydney isn't far behind at 13.8.
Then come San Jose, Vancouver, and Los Angeles.
And once you start looking beyond those cities, you realize the same pattern repeats across entire countries.
Homes in Australia's average city are now near 10 times median income.
Even smaller markets like Perth or Brisbane are now less affordable than New York.
In Canada, affordability has been collapsing since the mid 2000s.
Vancouver has ranked amongst the fourth least affordable cities on earth for 18 years straight, and Toronto isn't far behind.
Greater London homes now sit at nine times median income, while the UK average has crept to 5.6, which is roughly double what it was in the 1990s.
tim tompkins
Okay, I think we're good.
unidentified
In the United States, mom knows.
tim tompkins
Okay, so, you know, it's very easy to get black pilled about these things.
This is also a solution based show where we try to.
Think about what other countries are doing as well as America to combat these because people are starting to wake up and realize that these are issues and housing affordability is a number one or two issue for a lot of people, right?
So let's go ahead and play number 13 and look at some of the global solutions, things that people are doing specifically to combat this.
unidentified
Stop this.
Some countries are starting to try.
New Zealand launched a plan called Going for Housing Growth in 2023, which forces major city councils to zone enough land for 30 years of housing demand.
Their goal is simple make land supply predictable so prices can't spiral out of control.
In the US, cities like Minneapolis and states like California have begun loosening single family zoning.
That means duplexes and small apartment blocks can be built in neighbourhoods that once allowed only one house per lot.
This opens up supply where people actually want to live.
Singapore is taking a completely different approach.
There, nearly 90% of households own their homes, thanks to a massive public housing programme managed by the Housing and Development Board.
The government buys land, builds at scale, and sells apartments directly to citizens at subsidised prices.
So, yes, this shows that if you treat housing as infrastructure, like roads or schools, you can achieve near universal ownership.
Then there are countries tackling speculation instead of supply.
Hong Kong and Wales both tax second homes heavily.
In Wales, local councils can charge up to 300% council tax premium.
Taiwan taxes properties sold within two years at up to 45%, discouraging fast flips and speculative buying.
And in the Netherlands, some municipalities have banned investors from buying in certain neighbourhoods to keep homes for locals.
The US is now exploring a similar idea with the End Hedge Fund Control of American Homes Act.
This act would stop hedge funds and other big real estate firms from owning single family homes altogether.
So, yes, to fix this crisis, we need more homes, but we also need to rethink who's buying them, where they're built, and what kind of economy they're fueling.
Because at its core, it's the same old story a tidal wave of money flowing into a handful of assets and drowning the middle and low income classes in the process.
And unless that imbalance changes, no amount of zoning reform or new construction will make homes truly affordable.
Ground Invasion Possibilities 00:02:37
tim tompkins
Okay, so you guys have seen it.
I'm pretty much done with this deep dive.
I just want to clarify something for the audience here.
Again, this isn't me trying to create a narrative where I'm trying to push you in one particular direction.
All I am trying to do is challenge your existing beliefs, just like I challenge my own existing beliefs.
And that is the key to these deep dives here.
Again, we always label it as it could just be this one issue.
And often I'm looking at a lot of issues that we're doing these with, and they're much more complex than we give credit to.
rex jones
You say it's a key thing for the show for us to do the deep dive.
I think it's a key thing for everybody.
To do this type of thing, you know, and like what we want to do, what you do such a good job of, Tim, is disseminating the information for people so that we can actually become enlightened and aware on these topics.
And even if you go, Hey, I understand the housing market.
Hey, I understand the oil market.
Hey, I understand World War II.
I understand Vietnam.
There's always something worth finding if you're going to take a second or a third or a fourth look.
And we forget things over time.
So, what we do, hopefully, is generate a spark that lights a fire in you for more information.
We hope you seek that out.
And compare and contrast our notes to yours.
And it's about making ourselves better.
tim tompkins
You guys can fact check me on everything that I covered today.
I am completely open.
And if I'm wrong about something, DM me, you send, I'll correct myself.
You know, I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, but I feel like I did a good job of focusing on the information, distilling it down, because I do spend a lot of time doing this research.
rex jones
This is the key.
And this is what's so amazing about being able to do the show with you guys.
Me and Tim here in studio, we do gray area Thursday, Sunday, but we're here.
Five days a week, basically doing the morning show now on the American Journal while it's around.
The thing that's so amazing for us is this is a learning experience, right?
We're getting better at finding things.
We're getting better at presenting them.
We're getting better at connecting with you.
And that's ultimately what it's all about.
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unidentified
In.
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Predicted War Confirmed 00:14:25
rex jones
I want to show clip 10.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
I want to show clip 10.
I want to present it.
We don't need to play the actual video.
I just want to pause it.
On the general.
And this general, I was over at my grandparents yesterday.
They were watching Fox News.
They had this guy on the screen.
It pisses me off.
Let's go ahead and show this guy.
This is Jack Keane.
gen jack keane
End this regime once and for all.
And an enduring, stable Middle East, something we haven't seen in our lifetime, really, is on the horizon.
unidentified
All right.
rex jones
So if you're not noticing, if you're not watching right now, if you're listening to us in your car at the gym or whatever you're doing, God bless you.
Good morning.
Rex Jones, Tim Tompkins, American Journal.
He's got an Israeli American flag pin.
Okay.
There's a lot of that.
He doesn't have the American flag.
He's not representing and backing America.
He's representing and backing the American Israeli Empire Alliance regime, whatever you want to call it.
This is unacceptable.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
This is the foreign entanglement that we talk about.
You know, no country should have this much impact now.
rex jones
Imagine that was China, imagine that was Russia.
tim tompkins
That was China, I would have a riot.
Yeah, I don't.
rex jones
I'm here.
tim tompkins
Here's the thing I'm okay with us having relationships with the rest of the world, cooperating, making good deals.
You know, Israel has the same right to negotiate as China, as Russia, those types of things, as long as we're giving fair and equal deals.
But again, you dictating or influence our government to make a specific decision is another thing.
The Qataris do the same things, the Saudis do the same things.
I mean, look, the Qataris gave us a two, two, like, no, they gave us like a new Air Force One and said it wasn't a bribe.
So these foreign entanglements are difficult situations, and the American people are looking at these.
rex jones
Here's the problem it's treated like our 51st state, okay?
That is the issue because we could talk about the Qatari funding, which is massive, the Saudi funding, which is massive.
Ultimately, we're not acting like Qatar or Saudi Arabia is our 51st state.
They're not wearing Qatar or Saudi Arabia pendants.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
It's just, it's so wild to me because we've talked about it numerous times how you have these Gulf states.
We'll talk about it with Suleiman coming up in the next hour.
You have these Gulf states that are essentially, you know, dictatorships built on colonial line drawing.
unidentified
Yes.
rex jones
Right?
And then that's the seat of the power.
That's all the interest.
But that one place in the region, even though all those other nations are allies and give us money, give us bribes, whatever, that one other nation, Israel, they wear the flag like it's the state that they're from.
He's not wearing the state that he's from, he's wearing another country.
unidentified
Yes.
rex jones
It's pretty crazy.
tim tompkins
And just look.
I'm kind of seeing why they're doing this.
It's a signaling thing.
There's people who are in high positions of power who do control things behind the scenes.
And I think it's that pushback because you're seeing a lot of people speak out against these things that Israel did.
rex jones
So they're signaling I'm still on the team.
tim tompkins
Yeah, signaling you're still on the team.
Now, I don't agree with every single thing that comes out where people are criticizing certain aspects about all like Jewish people and they're throwing everything under an umbrella.
But we can be critical of people like Netanyahu, who have clearly an aggressive nature and a tone towards dictating how that region should be run.
rex jones
Here's what's so evil about Zionism Zionism attempts to attach a political ideology onto an ethnicity, onto an entire group of people.
We've got plenty of Jewish people that don't agree with what's being done by the state of Israel right now and the various genocides and wars that it started or engaged in, right?
But they want to make that the definition.
They want to make the IAEA definition of anti Semitism.
The law of the land.
It got struck down by Rand Paul, thank God, but it's true.
They literally say you cannot criticize the state of Israel because to do that is to be against the Jewish people.
Well, hey, I'm sorry.
I thought these were countries, okay?
I thought these were countries with laws and rules.
I thought we were allowed to criticize them, criticize China, criticize Russia.
You're not being anti Russia, you're not being anti Chinese, you're being anti that country.
tim tompkins
It is a lazy excuse to say, well, it's anti Semitic.
Just the same way, like, I would criticize somebody, like, I criticize some of my own people and some black people who are like, well, that's just racist.
I'm like, no, no, you can call out a specific group if they're doing something wrong, is wrong.
You don't get to hide under this veil of being a minority in some sort.
Like the Israelis and the Jewish people.
Are a minority in certain aspects, but that doesn't give you plausible deniability to say, well, everything is anti Semitic and you're being racist about this thing.
But the thing that I'm looking at these situations and I'm like, okay, well, at what point do we address the elephant in the room and separate ourselves to where the founding fathers had a true, let me gather my thoughts here.
The founding fathers, they had a clear roadmap.
And they talked specifically about separation of church and state for a particular reason because religion and ideologies are tricky.
Okay.
rex jones
They didn't want a government run by religion.
They didn't want us to have to fight these crusader style wars.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
Crusader style wars is exactly the point that I'm getting at because religion, and people can criticize me for this, is the best and worst thing to happen in humanity.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
And I'll give you the explanation why.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
Bear with me for a second here.
Religion is one of those things that you get spirituality, and it is super important for people to believe in something, especially Christians.
You're supposed to gather under the faith of the Lord, be a good Christian.
There are good values that are in there.
The problem is when you have bad actors that use the religious ideology to push an agenda that is not within the actual context of what is being spoken word.
unidentified
Sure.
rex jones
I mean, the Pope came out and said, you know, God doesn't answer the prayers of people that have blood on their hands, right?
So you have all these.
Presidents and all these people, Netanyahu, prime ministers, constantly invoking God.
It's the holy mission.
You know what the holy mission is?
It's like a bloated corpse of a kid that's being eaten by maggots on the side of the street.
That's what war is, okay?
You're not a Navy SEAL.
You're not a veteran.
You can't talk about war.
We've all seen the photos, okay?
We've all seen the footage.
We all know what war is.
War is murder and death, and there's never a religious justification for it.
In the modern world, that's what we stand against 100%.
I want to go ahead and play this to close it out.
Let's play clip number eight.
All right, this is an American soldier a decade ago, a decade plus ago, I believe 12 to 13 years ago, 2012, talking about the wars and why they're fought, and look at when they pull them off the air.
unidentified
And we have here somebody who actually did just go vote for Ron Paul, a first time caucus voter, Corporal Jesse Thorson, who is 28 years old, and you were active duty U.S. Army.
What did you vote for, Ron Paul?
Well, I'm really excited about a lot of his ideas, especially when it comes to bringing the soldiers home.
I've been serving for 10 years now, and all 10 years of those have been during wartime.
I'd like to see a little peacetime army, and I think he has the right idea.
Now, you have done two tours in Afghanistan.
You told me you're going to go back for a third tour.
I mean, if you can see your neck right there, what you have on your tattoo, 9-11, remember, and a picture of the Twin Towers, you know, some Republicans out there have been saying that Ron Paul would be very dangerous for this country because he wants to bring troops like you back from your post from all over the world.
Well, I think it would be even more dangerous to start nitpicking wars with other countries.
Someone like Iran.
Israel is more than capable.
Ooh, dangerous.
Sorry, we just lost our connection, unfortunately.
rex jones
It's always a mistake.
Oh, we got to cut it out.
We got to cut it out.
He didn't even say anything crazy, saying, hey, let them fight their own battles.
If they want to go to war, let them fight their own wars.
And what we're finding out in Lebanon with the 12 tanks destroyed and the tons of Israeli soldiers, IDF soldiers killed, you have the fathers, the mothers showing up to the Knesset saying, hey, I wanted my kid to come home.
tim tompkins
Hey, hey, hey, I got a great idea.
It's a new foreign exchange program.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
All right.
The neocons and the politicians that want to be in war should trade their place with a soldier for a month.
rex jones
Yes, Lindsey Graham.
Let's put Lindsey Graham instead of a bubble one, give him an M16, put him in the trenches.
Tank operator Lindsey Graham, we need to see it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
You know, get him on the front lines.
Let's put him in Afghanistan.
Let's put him in Iraq.
Get him suited up.
rex jones
There are these big boys with guns.
I'm very scared now.
You probably like it.
tim tompkins
That way, they know what it feels like to be one of our soldiers and what it feels like to be this guy who went through two tours and is like, I would like to see a little bit of peace because those people live in very hard conditions and are under extreme amount of stress.
unidentified
Sure.
rex jones
Well, you know, Lindsey Graham is a combat lawyer.
You know, so he is a veteran.
So that gives him the right to send people off to war and die.
And that's a key point to make.
We're going to be right back.
We have the great Suleiman joining us, the best live updates, the best information on the developing conflict.
You don't want to miss it.
You want to stay right with us here on the American Journal, murdering your morning, sticking the knife in and twisting it.
We're killing that time, having a great time with you.
We love you out there in cyberspace.
unidentified
We are in the void.
alex jones
14 days to flatten the curve, wear the mask, take the shot.
You can't get COVID, you can't spread it.
All horse crap.
And they used COVID to derail Trump's last recovery.
And now, as I predict, they're using war to do it.
batya ungar-sargon
If you spend too much time on Twitter or get your news from the liberal mainstream media, you may have gotten the impression that the president's supporters are abandoning him in droves over Operation Epic Fury, his war to prevent your grandchildren from having to face off against a nuclear armed Iran.
The hapless president has been dragged into this war against his will by the nefarious BB Netanyahu, according to people like Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Megyn Kelly, and now Joe Kent.
Alas, none of that is true.
The narrative that MAGA is split over Iran, beloved by the liberal media and the anti Israel far left and right, is complete fiction.
Far from a betrayal, poll after poll after poll has found massive overwhelming support for the president's strikes on Iran among Republican voters.
Upwards of 85%.
lindsey graham
Here's what I tell President Trump keep it up for a few more weeks.
Take Karg Island, where all of the resources they have to produce oil, control that island.
Let this regime down a vine.
I trust DOD.
We got two Marine expeditionary units sailing to this island.
We did Iwo Jima.
We can do this.
unidentified
Thank you all for coming.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
alex jones
Trump is against that entire globalist plan of austerity and against their carbon taxes.
That's why I've supported him so much because, compared to the Democrats, it's night and day.
He really is returning national sovereignty to America and making our own decisions.
But my God, then don't make the wrong decisions now that we have a president back in charge.
This is so paradoxical and it's so love hate for me.
And I know I've been right and I've been proven right again.
It's our own government's assessments, for heaven's sakes.
joe kent
And last time I saw Charlie Kirk on this earth, Was in June in the West Wing, in the stairway.
And I said hi to him, and he looked me in the eye and he said very loudly, and it's a small, you've been in the West Wing, it's small, it's a tight space.
And he said, Joe, stop us from getting into a war with Iran, very loudly.
unidentified
He was single minded.
joe kent
And he walked off and he went, I believe, into the Oval.
So when one of President Trump's closest advisors, who is vocally advocating for us to not go to war with Iran and for us to rethink at least our relationship with the Israelis, And then he's suddenly publicly assassinated, and we're not allowed to ask any questions about that.
alex jones
That's why the head of the Counterterrorism Center.
Joe Kent quit this week trying to get Trump to pay attention and change course.
Instead, they've been attacking him as a traitor and saying he's a leaker with no evidence.
donald j trump
I can say this.
He said very strongly that Iran is not a threat.
Iran's been a threat for 47 years, and there's not a country in the world that doesn't agree with me on that.
So I take this guy, Joe Kent, who lost twice for Congress pretty badly and tough and was devastated, and I know that he lost his wife.
So instead of letting him live out his life, I brilliantly have my people call him and offer him a job in security, essentially, in the White House.
And what does he do?
He goes out and he says that Iran is not a threat to get publicity.
Now, he probably signed up with CNN.
laura ingraham
Joe Kent, the former director of the United States National Counterterrorist Center, this is from Semaphore, he just resigned.
He's now under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information.
And the investigation predates his departure.
benjamin netanyahu
These opening remarks with one other fake news, and that is that Israel somehow dragged the U.S. into a conflict with Iran.
Does anyone really think that someone can tell President Trump what to do?
Come on.
President Trump always makes his decisions on what he thinks is good for America.
And may I add, I think what is also good for future generations.
lindsey graham
All the anti Semites to all the isolationists, I don't believe.
Forget it.
I'm not with you.
I'm with Israel.
I will be with Israel to our dying day.
alex jones
It's the Israel lobby that has the main muscle to be pushing this.
It's a foreign government.
It's illegal as hell.
I don't care if it's China, the UK, the EU involved in our politics, and they are too.
And it's wrong.
We're standing up against that.
We're standing up against what Israel's doing.
It's wrong, folks.
It's unconstitutional.
It's illegal.
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alex jones
And it's treasonous.
rex jones
We are powering through your morning.
We are honoring it.
We are honored that you chose to spend this time with us here on the American Journal.
Now, almost as always, we have another.
Phenomenal guest for you, Tim.
Tell them a little bit about Suleiman.
Let's introduce him.
Suleiman, welcome to the show.
tim tompkins
Yeah, Suleiman is a great friend of mine now.
He hosts a lot of spaces.
He's one of those people that is currently on the ball in news, everything.
He's very active.
I mean, this guy is on spaces like 12 hours a day.
He's covering everything.
rex jones
Since the beginning.
tim tompkins
Since the beginning of the conflict.
And he's very knowledgeable.
He has degrees.
He has a lot of knowledge to back it up.
So, Suleiman.
Let's get you on here because the people need to understand some things about what's going on, but we want to cover about you specifically as well.
Sulaman, how are you doing, my friend?
sulaiman ahmed
I'm doing great.
Thank you so much for having me on.
rex jones
You put on the jacket for us.
We're all professionals.
See, we're all professionals in the studio.
We've got to go professional.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
sulaiman ahmed
We've got to go professional.
We're in the big leagues now.
tim tompkins
Yes, yes, sir.
Yeah, we wanted to have you on.
We had you on the gray area.
We're like, this was a fantastic conversation.
rex jones
Yes.
tim tompkins
And we were like, all right, we need to make this happen.
So I'm glad we could.
Suleiman, let's just talk a little bit about your background because not a lot of people know you on the InfoWars, and a lot of people want to know what got you into all these things.
What's your background?
Just a high level overview so that people understand.
sulaiman ahmed
Yeah, sure.
So, my background is I've got obviously a degree in law and then a conversion into mathematics, became a mathematics teacher.
Then I've got an MA in philosophy, and then I was doing my PhD in philosophy when I became quite.
Viral on X. Right.
And the thing with becoming viral on X is it becomes very difficult to finish anything related to academia because you get a lot of complaints.
And so I thought, look, what's the best thing to do is just pause that, make sure that I'm, you know, continue my career in terms of from the media perspective, the journalistic perspective, and then I can go back and complete my PhD.
But yeah, that's currently my academic background in terms of obviously I've studied as well in a religious setting as well.
So I have a decent background of the understanding of Islamic religion, whether it's legalistic theory or theology and philosophy.
So that's kind of my background.
Obviously, I'm from a socially deprived area, so I've done a bit of everything.
When it comes to before social media and before my kind of academic career, right?
rex jones
I think you do such excellent coverage on the region because of that and many other factors.
Of course, you're just very well studied in really all forms of geopolitics.
Doing the breaking news updates, I believe you were doing them during the 12 day war as well, correct?
sulaiman ahmed
Yeah, we were 24 seven during the 12 day war.
We were 24 seven now as well, up until I believe a few days ago, maybe the first 22 days.
And then we've kind of reduced it to like 15, 16 hours.
tim tompkins
Yeah, I got to ask you, Suleiman, how do you do it?
Yeah.
Like Rex and I will come on here.
We'll do three, four hours.
We'll debrief afterwards.
We might have a show in the afternoon as we do Gray Area, but we're like gassed.
And I wake up, Suleiman's on.
I go to sleep, Suleiman's on.
I'm like, this guy is a shame.
rex jones
This guy is blue.
The birds are chirping.
Suleiman is on Thanksgiving breaking up.
tim tompkins
So, how do you manage to do that?
sulaiman ahmed
You got to just work hard, put the effort in.
I've got Beatrix who helps me with the spaces, I've got my entire team of people who come.
On and give really good analysis.
So I'm privileged in the sense that we've got a great team of people who come on the spaces and really contribute.
If I were to talk for 15 hours, I think I'd be struggling.
rex jones
Yeah, yeah.
We definitely hear that.
What are you seeing right now?
Breaking news updates you want to give people really just over the past week of coverage that y'all have been doing the live reporting.
What's going on in the Gulf right now?
sulaiman ahmed
Well, a huge amount of things are happening in the Gulf.
Let's just, we can deal with each thing at a time.
So, the first thing is obviously Iran has been hitting the Gulf quite hard.
Initially, they were hitting the US embassies and the military bases.
And the reason was because those countries were colluding with the United States of America and Israel to destroy Iran.
They tried to make it look like they weren't involved, but we know that they were indeed involved.
They were allowing these countries to use their air base.
We know now that they were, without a doubt, allowing them to use their military bases.
In addition to that, they were giving them key intel.
And that's one aspect of what they were doing.
In addition to that, and separate to that, what we know is that there's highly likely going to be, and I'm sure we're going to cover this in detail, a ground invasion into Iran.
And these countries are complicit in the ground invasion.
If you look at where the ground invasion is, and I'm sure we're going to go into detail into that, but depending on what the locale of the ground invasion is, the station in area could be UAE, Kuwait, or Saudi Arabia.
So, these countries are complicit.
They have been helping the United States of America and Israel bomb Iran, and they need to be held accountable.
And so, when I see these countries being hit by missiles and drones, I'll be honest with you, it gives me great pleasure, not only because of their complicity in that, but as you guys know, when it comes to the UAE, I view them as Muslim Zionists,
and they have been helping not only the United States of America and Israel, but if you look at what they've done in the Sudan, if you look at what they've done in Yemen, if you look at what they've done in In terms of perpetuating hatred against Muslims in Europe and in the West, generally speaking.
If you look at their treatment of the underclass, I just see them as almost the sister.
tim tompkins
So I have a question for you, Suleiman, because you were talking about the soldiers earlier.
Yeah.
I'm talking to Rex about this.
I'm like, there's no way this doesn't become a bloodbath because Iran knows this has been happening.
Everybody's been talking about it for two decades.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
So, you know, let's say we use the UAE and in these regions as staging grounds.
I don't see how like thousands of Americans don't get slaughtered if we even try to land one foot on that island.
I mean, they probably have landmines and stuff on the island.
Everything's are the Iranians prepped as much as the rest of the world is thinking?
sulaiman ahmed
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
And one can only surmise that.
Yeah, I agree with you.
There's going to be a bloodbath.
The question mark becomes what are they going to do and what the aims are going to be.
So, I mean, look, there's a few possibilities on what they can try and take.
They can either try and take Karg Island, that's one possibility.
The other possibility is they could take the three smaller islands, which UAE lays claim to, which is Abu Musa, the greater tomb, and the smaller tomb, the lesser tomb.
That's one option.
The other option is, so those are the two options.
The other option is, The third option is they could take the three Hermuz Islands, which is Hermuz, Lavarak, and the third island, Akezm, I believe it is.
So they could take one of the three Hermuz Islands.
Or the other possibility is, and I'm starting to think that this is slightly going to become more and more of a possibility, is a ground invasion into Iran as well.
So all of those things are possible.
rex jones
Yeah, I want to ask you about this because my dad had a caller on his show yesterday.
My dad's very anti war, he's very against all the operations going on right now.
And this caller calls in and he says, Alex, you're wrong.
I'm a Marine, and they would never sacrifice the Marines.
My dad used the example of kind of like a pawn sacrifice to open the engagement.
I think that's exactly what we're seeing here.
We have this kind of sacrificial array of forces, and it's just like Vietnam, it's just like Iraq.
We have to do this one thing.
We have to secure this one base, this one area.
They get slaughtered.
Oh, we got to do a full ground invasion.
We're a total war.
What do you see the likelihood of just a mass expansion?
And like in a month, we're looking at a totally different conflict.
sulaiman ahmed
I think what you're saying is extremely accurate, and I have been thinking about this a lot.
And I am moving more towards that position that actually this is maybe doing this may be done intentionally in order to sacrifice American lives in order to then galvanize the American public.
You know, you can show these American soldiers in caskets, yes, their families grieving, and then you can basically manufacture consent into a ground invasion.
That's a possibility, or the other possibility is this is all a bait and switch, and actually they're going to do the ground invasion immediately through.
I've got some ideas about where they're going to try and do that, but yeah, I do believe that.
Both of those things are possible.
It's either going to be an operation into one of those islands, you have a large massacre of people, and then you manufacture consent for ground invasion, or it's already going to be, and actually, all of this is a bait and switch, and they're going to do the ground invasion straight away.
tim tompkins
But, Suleiman, you know, I look at this, we've played these situations out over Iraq, Afghanistan, we see the ground invasions don't work.
I'm more leaning towards the islands scenarios that you've drawn out, but, you know, even if we take those islands, How do we even know that that's going to ensure that the strait actually opens?
Because they still can launch from the mainland.
And you know, you're talking about these Marines being on this island, getting bombarded.
They're probably going to be having drones launched at them every single day.
And that doesn't stop the IRGC from launching its boats and having rocket launchers still launched at oil tankers.
So, how does taking those islands even lead to the opening?
sulaiman ahmed
So, I don't think it will.
I think it's going to fail.
But I guess you're asking, what's The kind of motive, or what's Trump thinking?
tim tompkins
Yeah, it's like, what's the split?
sulaiman ahmed
Yeah, so I believe when it comes, and obviously the goal is different for each one of them.
So for Carga Island, the goal would be this from Trump's perspective.
Perspective.
He thinks that he can take control of the island.
It could take a day or two to take control of the island.
Their hope is that basically Iran's military is dispersed within the island.
They're not aware about which entry point there's going to be.
By the way, I disagree with this, but I'm just telling you what they're thinking is going to be.
And they'll be able to get the soldiers in, they'll get the Marines in through the sea, through the land, through the amphibious unit.
You take control of the area.
Then you basically use it as a staging ground.
You hope, and the thing is, What you've done is you've got Iran's oil infrastructure within there.
Like 95% of their refinery goes through there.
Now they can realign that and they would lose about 50%, but 50% loss is huge.
And so what you do is you take control over the oil infrastructure, the oil refineries.
And then what you do is you basically give Iran a very difficult decision do they bomb them or do they destroy their own oil infrastructure?
If they destroy their own oil infrastructure, that will set them back decades.
And so the hope is, or their hope is, that Iran doesn't do that.
And then you've got that as leverage.
And then you say, look, we'll give your oil back if you give us back the Strait of Hormuz.
rex jones
Wow.
So you're involved in a lot of these breaking news updates and on the ground conversations with people.
We're talking about the Strait of Hormuz.
The whole conversation is about it.
It's shut down, but there's another potential closure happening very soon.
The Yemeni people, the Houthi people, they've entered the conflict, they say, as well as Hezbollah, potentially talk about the impact of a Red Sea shutdown.
What's going on there?
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
Yeah.
sulaiman ahmed
The Houthis have entered the wall.
At the moment, the strikes are limited.
They've sent a number of missiles to Israel over the last few days.
They've also said that any ships that are from the US and Israel will be stopped in the Red Sea.
So that's already happening.
But they haven't done a total shutdown.
If they were to do a complete shutdown, that would have a major impact on the global financial market.
You would see oil prices go well above 150, possibly even to 200.
It would be uncontrollable.
rex jones
How likely is that scenario, that eventuality in your mind?
Just a quick question.
sulaiman ahmed
Okay, so my sources on the ground tell me, obviously, it's exclusive, and I haven't told my audiences, but my sources on the ground tell me that actually, if the United States of America does boots on the ground, they will shut the Red Sea.
rex jones
Escalation ladder, gotta keep going up it on both sides, and they have escalation dominance because they have more they can do than we have to do.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Well, and here's the thing I think everybody around the world is looking at this and is like, okay, we're getting two different stories about whether there's gonna be a peace deal, there's not gonna be a peace deal.
You and I talked about it on your Space of Suleiman, I thought the 15 point peace plan was very generous for the things that they were offering or Trump was offering.
And a couple of the points I didn't quite agree with Iran getting, you know, extra capacity to control the strait and having all the US military withdrawn.
So is there a way for them to come in the middle or is it just like we're past the party?
rex jones
Are they negotiating?
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
Are they?
What's going on?
unidentified
Yeah.
sulaiman ahmed
I don't believe they're negotiating.
What's happening is you've got Pakistan, Turkey, and I believe Egypt.
Who are almost acting as conduits.
So, what they're doing is taking the American information and passing it on to the Iranians.
The Iranians are very clear.
They do not want an agreement.
They do not agree with those demands, even though, as per what you just said, those 15 demands are very much Iran friendly.
If you remember, before this war, one day before this war, Iran agreed to 0% enrichment.
This was confirmed by the Omani mediators.
This agreement allows for up to 60% enrichment as long as it's used for civilian purposes.
And defense purposes.
So, this is a very much friendly, Iran friendly deal.
It's also something that Iran would be amenable to.
There is a couple of things in there that I think they would need to add.
Such as possibly they're saying reparations, but largely the rest of it, it is very amiable to Iran.
And what it shows is what we've been saying that Iran is winning this war.
No way would America have given this 15 point plan, which is so Iran friendly if they weren't losing the war.
And this is what we're seeing right now.
tim tompkins
But why would Iran say no to it?
That was my thing.
I'm like, if it's so friendly, is it because they know they're winning?
They're like, we want more.
Is that what's going on here?
sulaiman ahmed
Well, I think the reason is because.
They know, and Trump said it yesterday.
So I said this before, and Trump confirmed it that that deal, although it looks brilliant, it looks like an amazing deal.
Money Worth Less Today 00:15:35
sulaiman ahmed
The problem you have is, which Trump said yesterday, the Americans and the Israelis will just be back again a year or two in a year or two time.
And right now, you've got them exactly where you want them.
They've made so many errors in this war that they've got themselves in a situation where they're very weak when it comes to Iran.
Next time, Iran may not be as lucky because America, as another Israelis, always make this mistake.
They'll make the same mistake all the time.
But the American military is actually very proficient.
They won't make the same mistakes again.
And so the issue is, Trump said yesterday, he said, Well, we're going to finish this.
We're going to leave this war.
And then another president may come and try and bomb Iran for their nuclear facilities.
So what they're saying is, I'm going to leave this job undone.
And then someone else is going to come and bomb.
And this is the biggest problem Iran has.
This is why Iran should never agree to a deal.
And actually, I'll say worse than that Iran has been way too soft.
Iran, in my view, needs to go harder against the Gulf countries.
In my view, they need to give them three days' notice and say, You need to basically remove all American military bases.
You need to make sure America is not involved in your country.
If you don't, in three days, we're going to destroy your entire infrastructure, your desalination plants, and you'd give that warning to the UAE first.
And if, and I believe that they'll bend the knee.
But if they don't, you take out them and then you do to each one of the Gulf countries one at a time.
I believe that Iran, in my view, has been a bit too soft in this war.
They've done really well, but I think that you need to be cutthroat.
rex jones
We look at something else that's gone on, and it's been very interesting to me to see the mad dash, not just of Trump.
Because everything Trump does has to be done now.
We declare victory now.
The war is over now.
I've already won.
But we look at Netanyahu, okay?
And you can say America's involved in this war, heavily involved in this conflict.
It's a big drain on us.
Israel is literally right there, okay?
So they're not thousands of miles away.
They're right there.
And while all this is going on, while their cities are being bombed, while they're in conflict in this war with Iran, involved with us, they're invading Lebanon.
They've displaced a million plus people.
There are buildings exploding everywhere.
There's rubble everywhere.
I believe they've lost 12 tanks fighting against Hezbollah.
First off, how do you view the ever expansive nature of this war?
As in, like, how many more of these regions will it just swallow up?
Will it expand to places like Syria and Lebanon as it already has?
And do you think that they have any control over that or where it goes?
sulaiman ahmed
Yeah, I mean, I'm a big believer that this is part of Israel's expansionist agenda.
They want to expand throughout the region, they want to take control of the entire region.
But in terms of what you mentioned, in terms of Lebanon, they are losing really badly.
And this is what we predicted before this war.
We predicted this in 2006.
We predicted this in 2024.
We predicted this now.
There was no way they could defeat Hezbollah.
They don't know.
Hezbollah knows the terrain really well.
They know the landscape really well.
They've hit over 130 Merkaba tanks.
I believe they've taken out more than 80 Merkaba tanks.
And one of the days they even took out almost 20.
So they are struggling really badly.
They've had a huge loss of life.
They've not been able to penetrate in any areas.
So what they did yesterday was, which is what you're showing right now, which is yesterday they start bombing.
Specifically, those areas in South Lebanon, because they've not been able to succeed in the ground invasion, what do they go back to?
They go back to just bombing from the air, hoping that this causes dispersion of the troops.
But that won't do it because actually, what they've not learned again.
From previous wars, and this is because of the part of the military analysis, is Israel's continue to always bomb areas before they go in.
But what happens when you bomb areas?
It causes a huge amount of rubble.
When you basically cause a lot of rubble, your tanks can't get through, and then you require bulldozers to go in to remove and disperse the rubble.
And that just means more tanks are going to be taken out.
rex jones
I heard Lawrence Wilkerson talk about it, the great colonel, and maybe he's been on your program.
Heard him talk about it, I believe, with Larry Johnson.
He says, yeah, they don't even maintain proper following distance with the tanks, and they roll in, they all get slaughtered.
It's because they're not.
Used to actually having to fight a professional military battle.
You didn't kill little kids.
tim tompkins
Didn't they have to call reservists up to 425,000?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
So not all of those people are combat ready, if I quite understand the situation.
rex jones
Yeah.
sulaiman ahmed
You're so right about that, making those errors.
But worse than that, the US military did an analysis of the 2006 war.
And the US military literally said to them, look, these are the mistakes you're making.
You're bombing areas and then trying to bring tanks in.
And then that's how Hezbollah is able to take you out.
They never learned in the 2024 war.
They got destroyed.
They had to go back, and they're doing the exact same thing, the exact same mistake again.
So it's not only a lack of military capability in terms of the soldiers, but it's a lack of military understanding and nuance, arrogance, and not even looking at the analysis that's even given to them by their US partners.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
So, one thing that I want to touch upon, because you were talking about it just before we talked about Lebanon, was about Iran taking a harder stance and going harder in terms of the demands.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
I want to push back just a little bit, you know, because we like to have healthy debate here.
And I don't see a scenario in which the United States ever withdraws their troops without that region forcefully, right?
We would rather maintain our ego to be the military power within that region and have, you know, the Gulf states struck.
And it would just accelerate the war to where the Gulf states will attack back.
And Iran has just as much to lose.
And their government is kind of in a shaky situation because there is a lot of instability within.
The population right now, regardless of who's stirring the pot and things like that.
So, I'm just trying to understand how does pushing harder do any good for Iran at that point?
Because I don't think that's the solution.
sulaiman ahmed
Excellent question.
So, I had the same view as you, I'd say, up until a few days ago, because I've been really thinking and reflecting on this.
And the way Iran has conducted the war is exactly the same manner I would conduct the war.
The problem is, I think about it and I think, would I be the best leader?
In this wartime situation, and I think not because I'm too soft.
You need someone who's cutthroat, you need someone who's brutal.
When it comes to the GCC countries, they don't have they can't do anything more than they're already doing.
They don't have the military capability, they don't have the uh military personnel.
Who are they gonna get to fight for them?
Some Pakistanis, like nobody's gonna fight for them, right?
They can't do any more than they're already doing.
This needs to be a warning to them to say, Look, you need to stop, or your country will be obliterated.
In terms of, and and it needs to be a demand, in terms of the American.
Which the American military base has been removed from the country.
I'm in agreement with you.
I actually hold this position, which is as much as many people within the resistance want that, I can't see a scenario where that would ever happen because these Gulf states are so underneath the shoes of the United States of America and Israel, they would never ever want the U.S. to be removed.
They live in fear.
They don't have the social and the psychological ability to think that they can fend for themselves.
They're always relying on that, never mind the fact that the U.S. and Mossad are intrinsically linked.
Within the entire apparatus of those countries, those kings, those rulers, MBS, MBZ, know that if they were to ever get out of line, the United States of America and Israel would assassinate them and replace them immediately.
So, I agree with you.
I don't think the bases will be removed.
I'm saying if I was Iran, I would not be conducting the manner in which they do.
What they're doing right now is they'll bomb Iran's energy infrastructure.
They'll find one or two countries and then they'll hit them or three countries.
They'll hit them plus Israel.
That's just not enough because think about it.
They're getting hit more.
So, in my view, it's very simple.
rex jones
Really quick, we're coming up here on a break.
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unidentified
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Suleiman, we want to let you continue, finish up that last point you were making.
Tim's got one more question for you.
I've got one more question for you.
Again, thank you so much.
Really appreciate having you on the show.
sulaiman ahmed
Really appreciate it.
unidentified
Yeah.
sulaiman ahmed
So the point was just simply that I don't think they'd ever leave, but the issue is you need to be cutthroat.
You need to be brutal.
This is your existence on the line.
And I think that with Iran, because they're very lovely people, they're very soft people.
They just don't want to escalate too much all the time.
It's always they're relying on the US and Israel to escalate and then they will respond.
So, for example, they're waiting for the ground invasion and then they will respond.
I think that you just simply in this war just can't do that.
Look, public sentiment may go against you if you do something like this, but public sentiment isn't going to save your country.
Public sentiment didn't save the Palestinians in Gaza.
Public sentiment didn't save the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza who were taken out.
It didn't basically save the millions of Palestinians who were injured.
Even now, they've stolen Palestine from the Palestinians through this Gaza plan, which again, public sentiment didn't say about it.
So, public sentiment, in my view, let's forget about it.
You need to do what you need to do to win this war.
And that is accelerating in the manner I said.
rex jones
And that's what we're talking about right now.
We're not talking about, as Trump calls it, a little excursion or a detour.
We're talking about full war.
This is the reality of full war.
It is brutal, it is death.
War is ultimately rotting corpses, and nobody wants that.
But someone started this fight, and it wasn't Iran.
Tim, your question.
unidentified
Well, so.
tim tompkins
I'm going to ask the question in just a second.
I just want to address the last thing that you were talking about public sentiment.
You know, Israel and America would love for there to be a scenario that plays out where, you know, Iran backs itself into a corner to where it destabilizes its own country.
Like I was saying, if, you know, let's say Iran does take action against the salinization plants and oil infrastructure, the Saudis and the Americans and the Israelis are going to go and attack that exact same civilian infrastructure.
And then that's a perfect opportunity for there to be regime change.
And that kind of becomes the self fulfilling prophecy of what they want.
So it's a little bit of a tricky situation.
I get it.
And I see your perspective.
I agree with certain points.
And there's some other things that I'm like, ah, maybe, maybe there is a better solution.
rex jones
But we do diversity of thoughts.
tim tompkins
We do diversity of thoughts and we can, and we can healthily talk about these things.
But one thing I wanted to ask you about was, you know, your information.
You are on top of the ball on a lot of these issues.
There's tons of sources that are on top of the ball.
rex jones
Something breaks, you know.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Something breaks, you know.
Like how, and you don't have, I'm not expecting you to like tell the guy who's your sources and your, Like, how are you getting your information?
Like, how are you so on top of things?
sulaiman ahmed
Yeah, I'm on.
So, there's a few ways of disseminating information.
Obviously, first of all, being in a large number of Telegram groups.
The second thing is, I've been doing this for a while.
So I do have sources on the ground, whether it's in Lebanon, whether it's in Iran, whether it's in Yemen, whether it's in actually the United States of America.
And so we have built this kind of network of people who are able to give us this information before it happens.
So, for example, I knew this war was going to happen before it happened.
I knew about the 12 day war the day before.
So, this kind of, and although I was told about it, I was not too sure at that time.
But in the end, that source ended up being right.
So it's just, as you know, doing this for a long time, you end up building your sources.
And so you're aware of the information.
There's a lot of people on the ground who then disseminate the information.
Also in the Gulf, as well, I have a number of sources.
So we're quite blessed in that regard that over time, we've been given a lot of responsibility and trust, and we're able to do that.
And in terms of your other point, in terms of regime change, I think the opposite.
I think if Iran shows right now, the entirety of Iran is united with Iran.
And the reason is because they see this as an existential threat, they see this as foreign invaders trying to destroy their own country.
And then you saw what happened with those schoolgirls.
I think if Iran shows weakness, if Iran doesn't go harder, I think the opposite may occur.
That's when there is a chance that there could be a loss of trust where they think that, look, you've taken us into this war and yet you're not winning this war.
That's when there is a possibility that there could be.
I don't think it'll happen now.
rex jones
You touch on something super important and we just, we got to pay our respects and we got to give them honor.
We got to ultimately acknowledge what the U.S. is really, what the empire did.
We killed 180 schoolgirls and their teachers.
Okay, we burned them alive.
What does the word Holocaust mean?
Okay, everyone wants to talk about the Holocaust all the time.
Holocaust means death by fire.
That's what we did to those little girls and their teachers.
It was a sickening double tap terrorist attack where, after the initial strike, after they're gathering in the safe room, holding each other, hugging each other, the second tomahawk comes in.
What does our president say?
What does the imperial leader say?
Well, it was them.
It was them.
Other nations have tomahawks.
You got a newsflash.
unidentified
Has he?
rex jones
You got a fee of war.
You got Japan, France, Germany, the UK, the only other nations that have tomahawks.
We did it.
Clearly, our government lied about it.
And here's the thing if you're listening to us right now, we're breaking down what's happening.
You're like, I disagree.
I still trust Trump.
I think he's got the goodwill.
He doesn't want people to die.
That's been proven to be false on the first day of the war.
This is evil.
We aid in a bet in genocide and all these horrible conflicts.
It just has to stop now.
And I think even if we're on different ideological lines, even if we believe in different belief systems, all these things, we got to realize that we're all humans.
We live on this planet together.
We're all created by God.
We have to honor each other.
People aren't disposable units to be burned and thrown away.
In some sort of conflict for greater war or energy or power resources.
Suleiman, I've developed these opinions over the years, really based off of the Ukraine war and watching what's been going on there.
And I've been getting phenomenal coverage from people like you, but also people like Dialogue Works, like NEMA, also people like Judge Napolitano and Glenn Deeson.
I gotta say, just a little bit of a selfish ask here for Gray Area for American Journal.
We really wanna talk to Larry Johnson or Lawrence Wilkerson.
We love those dudes.
I've heard him on your space before.
What do you think about minds like that?
Because we have people that are 60, 70, 80 years old.
Who have lived through the 21st century, 20th century American empire and can speak to it.
What do you think about voices like that and why they're valuable?
sulaiman ahmed
They're extremely important because what people don't realize is that when someone here is maybe you talking or Larry Johnson talking or Tim talking or, as you said, Lawrence Wilkinson, Daniel Davis, these guys are extremely pro America.
They just know that this is negative, even for the United States of America.
So let's take Daniel Davis as an example.
He's someone who was going to be part of the Trump administration.
He was already accepted.
He was already selected.
And he had the handshake agreement just 12 hours before he was going to be anointed or they were going to present it to the public.
Obviously, Laura Dumas found out about it and made sure the nomination was pulled.
But this is someone who was going to be part of the Trump administration and is very pro America.
Whenever I'm on the show, he's always like, Our boys, this is not going to be good for us.
And he's looking at it very much from a pro American stance.
The Sunk Cost of the Dollar Menu 00:08:46
sulaiman ahmed
And despite having that stance, he's saying, Look, this war is going to be negative.
A lot of American soldiers are going to be lost.
We're going to lose this war because of all the things he said.
And so I think those voices are extremely important because we look at it from an anti war perspective.
rex jones
We don't want war.
sulaiman ahmed
We want peace in the world.
Some people are like, actually, we're not anti war.
We're just anti this war because we're going to lose because we're not going to achieve any of the goals.
And this war isn't for us, but it's for Israel.
So, both moral and practical.
rex jones
I'm sorry to interrupt.
Both moral and practical.
And this is the point I always make about people in the current administration.
Why wouldn't you resign and run in 2028 and be the hero?
Because you look at it, it's just like these things aren't going to work the way you think they're going to work.
Even if we are an evil empire, we want to conquer everybody and declare victory.
You can't win this war, so why would you do it, Tim?
tim tompkins
Well, what it is, it's a sunk cost fallacy, is what's happening.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
They're already in too deep.
From the first decision, from the first hundred days, Trump has kind of gone back on a lot of the things that he promised, what we voted on specifically.
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
And then we've seen decision after decision after decision.
And after you get to a certain point, you've already invested so much energy into signaling to the people that you're really trying to appeal to that you just got to go all in.
And we've silently sunk into.
Again, this isn't like me trying to spew Israeli propaganda or all those types of things.
They do have a lot of influence on the United States government.
And so now we're kind of like, well, we're not just going to cut our relations with Israel.
So we might as well go all the way because we thought taking the regime out on that first day was going to do the job.
rex jones
And we realized.
24 hours, it's going to be over.
unidentified
Don't worry about it.
tim tompkins
We don't actually have as much control as we think.
So, you know what?
Gulf states were like, you know what?
You started this, you better finish it.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
And that's where we're at, the sunk cost fallacy.
I think that's what's going on.
rex jones
I think this has been a phenomenal interview.
We want to have you on again.
We're pressed for time.
Thank you so much, Suleiman.
Where do they find you?
sulaiman ahmed
I appreciate it.
Thank you so much for having me on.
You can find me on X. Obviously, I've got quite a big X channel.
That's Sheikh Suleiman.
But my biggest focus is YouTube at the moment.
With YouTube, we're doing a lot of interviews with military experts, geopolitical experts, and experts from a wide range of sources.
And then we also provide breaking news on that.
And my YouTube is Suleiman Ahmed X, which is Suleiman Ahmed X.
So, you can see my name there, but with the X at the end.
That is my YouTube.
So, you can check it out there.
unidentified
Awesome.
tim tompkins
Awesome.
Suleiman, very much so a pleasure to have you on.
We really appreciate you.
We're going to do this again.
We're going to try to have you on the gray area again as well.
We're just going to continue this relationship because this is a phenomenal episode.
We always have great conversations.
So, we really appreciate it.
rex jones
Awesome.
Thank you for your time.
unidentified
Thank you so much.
rex jones
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you so much.
sulaiman ahmed
And I appreciate both of you as well.
Thank you so much for standing against this war and standing for humanity.
We really do appreciate you.
rex jones
It's called being pro humanity, man.
And we're all on that team.
We're all anti war.
Thank you so much, Suleiman.
I want to let you all know right now.
Got to let you know.
Got to plug because we're on the network.
We're on the air.
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We got to get into calls now, Tim.
Which call do you want to take?
tim tompkins
Well, let's talk about some specifics.
I think people want to talk about the Iran war, the things that we were just talking about.
Let's just start with Brandon in Ohio.
I think I remember you from the last time.
Brandon, you're on the air.
What's going on?
brandon in ohio
Hi.
So I just wanted to bring up the fact that every news talk that I hear is talking about how detrimental this whole situation makes.
Situation is, and that this has the fulcrum point of pivoting towards nuclear war or total chaos and apocalypse.
And that means that these people have a predetermined plan of how they're going to treat us after this is done.
And so I think it's about time that Alex Jones, the Joe Rogans, the powerful people of the world step up, put their money where their mouth is, organize.
I know Alex Jones doesn't have all this money because he's persecuted and stuff.
unidentified
Right.
brandon in ohio
But there are people who do, and they need to get us down.
We need to be in Washington, D.C., and we need to be sitting on the sidewalks, lining the public fairways.
With nothing but the people who are anti Israel.
rex jones
I totally agree.
Yeah.
I totally agree.
Here's the thing the peaceful Martin Luther King Jr. style protest, protesting for our civil rights and into the war and into our rape as citizens, that's 100% what we need.
We don't need the pageantry of left and right, and the left wears the pussy hat, and on the right, they wear whatever clothing and regalia, the Patriot front outfit.
We need Americans out there divorced from a political party, really, because both the parties have sold us out.
Out there demanding peace.
I know I'm calling for it.
I think you're absolutely right.
Phenomenal call.
Thank you, Brandon.
Let's go to Tim in California.
Another Tim.
Talk about your deep dive.
tim tompkins
Real estate.
sulaiman ahmed
It's on.
tim tompkins
Tim, you're on the line.
What's going on?
tim in california
Hey, great to talk to both of you and Tim.
First time saying hello to you.
And yeah, that deep dive this morning was awesome.
And I'm in no way an expert about these real estate matters or so forth.
But just being an old guy, I can tell you, I think part of the thing that factors into this.
Is the devaluation of our currency starting in 71 when Nixon dropped the gold standard?
And you could buy a brand new Camaro Z28, I mean the Z28, for $3,100.
unidentified
Wow.
Okay.
tim in california
You could buy a brand new nice house for $14,000.
unidentified
Yep.
tim in california
That same house today here in Southern California might be worth three quarters of a million or more.
tim tompkins
Now, it's not for you, Tim.
When you were our age, You know, what was your line of work?
Like, what were you doing for a living?
What was it really like?
I'm curious about these things.
Like, were you able to, cost of living?
Did you ever feel strapped at that point?
tim in california
Well, I won't tell you too much, but I will tell you this.
For a period of time, I was working at a frozen pizza factory.
And man, you wouldn't think you could make a lot of money doing that, but man, they were absolutely throwing money around hand over fist.
They wanted you to learn a new skill as quick as you could.
Sauce room to the cheese machine to the meat room to the, yeah, you get your forklift certification and on and on.
And they just keep giving you raises and raises.
And hey, I'm just a single guy, but I got my own pad and, you know, I got my own car.
I got a motorcycle.
If I wanted a boat, I could have got a boat because I was in rural Tennessee.
So, I mean, I could have done whatever I wanted.
I was buying drinks for the girls and everything.
So, yeah, but I didn't buy a house.
I was a rambling man.
So I wasn't going to settle down anytime soon.
unidentified
So I told you.
tim tompkins
You're making me cry.
You're making me cry because those do not exist for our generation, do they, Rex?
rex jones
Yeah, the rent's like two grand now.
Uh, you got taxes out the wazoo.
Your money, you can't buy a cheeseburger for less than $15.
I mean, you think about the food inflation, it's so crazy.
I mean, I remember the dollar menu, we all remember the dollar menu.
tim tompkins
I was there for the dollar menu, those were that was the last gray area.
Now it's the value menu where you could get it for.
A dollar and 99 cents, close enough, right?
rex jones
Your thoughts in closing, Tim.
tim in california
Well, see, the whole concept for like a Trump defending in a certain way is in a way he's right.
For anyone that happened to get involved or hooked up in a house or houses or so forth, if you did, then over time, the lessening of the value of your money by definition makes it further and further out of reach and more and more money to buy one.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim in california
Because the money is worth less.
The money is worth less.
So, you got to spend more money to get the same thing.
That's why you can't get a Camaro Z28 for $3,100 today.
rex jones
Wow.
Think about what he just said.
Think about what he just said $3,100 for a sports car.
I mean, we're living in the new age now.
Thank you so much for your call, Tim.
We hope you call back in.
Let's go to Timothy, another Tim in Nebraska, asking about the ZO Lite.
How are you doing?
tim in california
Hey, buddy.
Tim's Question About Zeolite 00:08:17
tim in california
Do you hear me all right?
rex jones
Yes.
tim in california
That's awesome.
Fucking ear.
I know.
rex jones
Be careful about the swearing, but we're good.
We're all right.
We're all right.
Yeah, I can hear you.
tim in california
I hear you as if I'm calling my buddy across the street.
My question about zeolite is that I take a lot of supplements.
unidentified
Right.
tim in california
Either CMOS, this Chelogy.
And I'll get into all those things if you want because I've had a positive effect.
My question about zeolite is will it be a waste of money?
Because if I take zeolite and all these other supplements, am I just going to.
rex jones
It's a good question.
So, what zeolite is, and there's multiple different kinds of it, we have one of the top white labeled versions of it.
What it is is a de chelator, right?
Or a chelator.
It strips the heavy metals out.
It has a negative ionic charge.
It binds to specific things like lead, for example, and it has these effects.
Here's the thing if you haven't had that heavy metal exposure, if you don't feel like you've been subject to that, then maybe it's not the right choice for you, just in the same way that someone, maybe if they're on SSRIs or other strong drugs, maybe everyone doesn't need to take methylene blue.
But the thing is, We produce the products as a resource for you, the viewer, listener, kind of like a deep dive.
We give you the starting point and we want you to do your own research.
And then literally all you got to do is ask ChatGPT, ask Google Now, literally just look it up, PubMed, check the studies on all these things that we sell, and then make the decision based off of that.
There's no secret or esoteric knowledge, but these are real compounds that work.
Thank you for your call.
We're pressed on time.
I got to go to the next guy, Billy in Ohio.
How are you doing today?
unidentified
Hello.
Howdy.
billy in oklahoma
Oh, hi.
I'm Billy from Oklahoma, but I thought you were talking about someone else.
rex jones
Oh, I apologize.
I said Ohio here on the machine.
unidentified
I bet.
billy in oklahoma
You're good, dude.
unidentified
You're good.
billy in oklahoma
I just wanted to raise a theory and a product plug, too, but I'll raise the theory first.
So I was trying to think about the timeline of Trump betraying his base.
And I was just thinking, man, what happened around the time where he started to go sideways?
And is it too far of a stretch to think that, like, you remember he got his updated COVID boosters still like an idiot?
unidentified
Right.
billy in oklahoma
Do you think that could have anything to do with it?
I mean, who knows even what they're giving him?
unidentified
Yeah.
It could be anything, right?
rex jones
I think he is drugged up just like many other presidents before him.
I mean, he wouldn't be the first.
And if you go back and look at Trump's history, he had some really strong amphetamine prescriptions from like a New York doctor, feel good.
So I don't know.
I think they're all kind of like looming specters that are kept alive by pharmacology.
He definitely went through a shift.
I would say more for me, it's Butler, Pennsylvania.
And I look at that.
tim tompkins
I mean, it made him.
unidentified
Wow.
tim tompkins
It made him a hardened man, too.
I mean, I look at him sometimes, he looks like he has a lot of energy.
Some other days, you can tell that he's exhausted.
But for him at his age, yeah, doing what he's doing and maybe going off of three or four hours of sleep.
Caffeine can't do it alone.
rex jones
That is the key.
I don't mean to interrupt you, Tim, because that's the point my dad made.
He's like, look, if I stay awake for two days, three days, things start getting really creepy and really weird, and you got to go to bed.
Trump essentially, old people, melatonin levels decline as you age.
So he's already getting worse quality sleep, less sleep, going to bed earlier, waking up earlier, the whole nine yards that we know about older people.
He's sleepwalking, like you say.
Do you see what I'm saying, Tim?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
No, I see what you're saying.
Anything else, Brian?
billy in oklahoma
Yeah, dude, I love the Methylene Blue.
I know Nitric Boost isn't in the Alice Jones store, but boy, that stuff works really good.
rex jones
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unidentified
All right.
billy in oklahoma
Well, man, it's really affecting the cost of living for me because every time I finish a bottle of that stuff, my wife ends up knocked up.
And I got like 15 kids and one on the way, man.
I can't keep up.
rex jones
We love it.
That's a good problem to have fixing the birth rate.
Crisis.
You're telling me Methylene Blue is giving you kind of like an Amish family?
billy in oklahoma
Oh, man.
Yeah, I can't keep her off of me.
I slipped some into my wife's food, and dude, I'll tell you what, can't keep her off of me.
rex jones
Yeah, nice.
Well, hey, you got to try the power plant sometimes, man.
I think you'll find that's really incredible.
That's a blend that I made that doesn't rely on all those crazy LH medic herbs.
What it relies on is a high quality mineral blend proven to boost testosterone and pre testosterone combined with stuff that modulates cortisol so you have more fuel sources.
For your hormones.
Thank you so much, Billy, for the.
unidentified
Oh, go ahead.
tim tompkins
No, no, no.
unidentified
You're good.
tim tompkins
I wanted to cover the breaking news that's going on.
rex jones
Okay, let's cover the breaking news really quickly.
tim tompkins
Okay, so we got breaking news.
President Trump departs from the White House on his way to the Supreme Court, where he will be the first president in history to sit and listen to the court's oral arguments as it weighs the president's executive order ending birthright citizenship.
rex jones
Wow, that's breaking news right now.
The first time it's ever happened, the president sitting in the Supreme Court to hear oral arguments.
We're going to be tracking that story as it develops.
War, sure.
President Trump attended the arguments but left.
I got in, I got out, I got in, I got out quickly.
Nobody gets out quicker than you.
tim tompkins
He just wanted to be soldier boy and said he's the first.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
I'm the first.
That's all he wanted to do.
Keep going.
rex jones
Now, what we used to say at Swim Team is that the first is the worst, the second is the best, the third is the one with the treasure chest, okay?
But we're all kind of the ones with the treasure chest here because we get to watch all of it happen.
And I love doing it here on the American Journal.
I know Tim loves it as well.
And here's the thing.
We do the deep dive, we do the phenomenal news blitz, and we have the best interviews around.
If you want to see more of us, the place to find us is Gray Area Talks on X. We're at like 3.2 right now.
It would be amazing to get to 3.5.
If y'all are tuning in for the Alex Jones Show, we're here doing the American Journal.
If you want to check us out Thursday and Sunday, the place to be, let me tell you, at 7 30 p.m., you want to be in our live chat, in our live stream.
You want to be a part of the Gray Area Show because it's a show like this one.
It's a powerful, discerning consumer.
tim tompkins
And if you like the deep dives that I'm doing, I would also appreciate a follow because these are the things I really care about.
rex jones
Let's throw Tourism Tim up there real quick.
tim tompkins
And giving you guys information.
You can find me on X at Tourism Tim.
Again, these are the things that we cover specifically so that you guys can be informed.
And at the same time, it's just been a pleasure to host the American Journal and just be given this opportunity.
And the last thing that you guys should know is on Friday, speaking of guests, we have James Fishback that will be coming in.
rex jones
Florida gubernatorial, isn't that a fun word to say?
Gubernatorial candidate, James Fishback, of course, running against Byron Donalds.
We're going to be talking to him, talking about AIPAC money, his grassroots campaign, all of it.
We're very excited for that.
We got high caliber guests for you.
This really is a good show.
This really is a good show.
We've interviewed Fishback.
We've interviewed Suleiman before.
We've interviewed Simon Dixon before.
And we're going to keep interviewing these people as they track.
If he wins, if he loses, we'll go to Florida.
We'll have him back on the show.
Who knows?
It's an adventure and a journey to be here on the gray area.
How do you feel?
tim tompkins
I feel great.
You know, you want to tune in at 10 a.m. on Friday.
We're going to be here.
I won't be here tomorrow.
Rex is going to be holding down the fort doing a solo.
But again, I love you guys.
I appreciate the opportunity.
We're going to continue to do this as long as this plays out.
rex jones
So I want you to.
To pick up the sword of life today.
And I want you to go out on a journey, on a hero's journey of your own.
I want you to go out there, challenge and seize victory, demand excellence from your political officials, from yourself, everything you can do in life, try to help another person and live up to the standard of Jesus Christ, who we all worship and adore.
Thank you so much for being here on the American Journal.
Rex Jones, Tim Tompkins, catch us live tomorrow.
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