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jon bowne
The quiet suburbs of Minneapolis were shattered early this morning by a cold, calculated act of political terror.
State Representative Melissa Hortman, a Democratic powerhouse and former House Speaker, along with her husband Mark, were gunned down in their Brooklyn Park home by a suspect posing as a police officer.
In a related attack, State Senator John Hoffman and his wife Yvette were shot multiple times, both now clinging to life after surgery.
As the lone Democrat in the House to join Republicans, Hortman supported SSHF1, a bill stripping undocumented adults from eligibility for MinnesotaCare, the state's low-income health insurance program.
This 68-65 vote, with Hortman as the decisive crossover, marked a stunning departure from her party's progressive rhetoric.
The Democrats decried Hortman's vote as cruel and immoral.
With Representative Maria Issa Perez Vega chanting, "This ain't one Minnesota," in protest.
Days before her murder, Hortman, physically shaking, defended her vote as a necessary compromise to secure a state budget in a tied 67-67 House.
melissa hortman
I know that people will be hurt by that vote.
We worked very hard to try to get a budget deal.
That wouldn't include that provision.
jon bowne
Yet, this single act of pragmatism may have sealed her fate as whispers of retribution swirl in the wake of her assassination.
The shooter identified as 57-year-old Vance Bolter.
Remains at large.
After engaging in a firefight with police at Hortman's home, he fled on foot, eluding capture despite a massive manhunt involving the FBI, Minnesota State Patrol, and local forces.
Bolter left behind a manifesto and a target list naming Hortman, Senator John Hoffman, and dozens of other Democrats.
No official motive has been confirmed, but the No Kings flyers found in Bolter's vehicle tie him directly to the raucous anti-Trump rally's plan.
And across Minnesota and the rest of the country.
melissa hortman
We don't have any direct links.
However, there were some flyers that said no kings.
jon bowne
And the plot thickens as Bolter has been identified as a 2019 appointee to the Governor's Workforce Development Board by Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz.
tim walz
Minnesota, my good friend and colleague, Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, were shot and killed early this morning in what appears to be a politically motivated assassination.
jon bowne
And as Trump's military parade marking the U.S. Army's 250th anniversary begins to roll out, the left's refusal to cancel these rallies reeks of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
preaching peace while aggressively rallying against kings exposes the fractured ideology that Hortman's vote and her death have laid bare.
joe biggs
We still are free thinkers and you know that's They want to be able to, you know, they're already doing that with, hey, we're a democracy.
No, we're not a democracy.
We're a constitutional republic.
We're not a democracy.
But you see everybody on the left every day.
And we even see people on the right now going, save democracy, democracy now.
And they're pushing this big lie.
jon bowne
This brazen assault unfolding just hours before these rallies exposes a chilling escalation in America's political divide, where political-motivated violence from the left is replacing discourse at an alarming rate.
nancy pelosi
I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.
tucker carlson
People need to start taking to the streets.
This is a dictator.
unidentified
You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives.
nancy pelosi
And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and our honoring our Constitution are right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
kamala harris
They're not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they're not going to stop after Election Day.
And that should be, everyone should take note of that on both levels, that this isn't, they're not going to let up, and they should not.
rick wilson
They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump, and that's a fact.
unidentified
Look as his character is stabbed to death.
It's Friday, June 20th in the year of our Lord 2025.
And you're listening to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch it live right now at band.video.
I think it's time to blow this thing back.
Get everybody in the stuff together.
Okay, three, two, one.
Let's jam.
harrison smith
Good morning.
I'm your host, Harrison Smith, coming to you live this Friday morning.
Hope everybody's doing well.
Been a bit of a mood shift in the last 24 hours.
Some updates to the Iran-Israel conflict.
Everything in a bit of flux, if you will.
We're going to try to figure out exactly what's going on here.
The latest is that Donald Trump has delayed Trump.
Another Situation Room meeting occurring yesterday to decide what to do about the ongoing conflict.
It's getting increasingly difficult to know what's going on as both Israel and Iran have now implemented some level of censorship as to reporting on the ground what is actually happening, where the bombs are falling.
What's being destroyed?
What's not?
So we'll get into it and try to figure out exactly what's going on.
Because of this delay, because Trump apparently met with Steve Bannon yesterday, took a call from Tucker Carlson, and it seems like he has tempered his statements.
And it doesn't look like we are going to be attacking Iran outright anytime soon.
Things are sort of cooled a little bit.
They've cooled just a touch.
We've got some information from Iran, information from Israel.
Iran acting very confident.
Israel not so much, you could say.
One thing I'm going to do today is take a lot of your phone calls.
We're going to open up the phone lines nice and early.
We'll also be joined by Wid Lyman a little bit later on.
White House correspondent for Borderhawk News.
He's there in D.C. and we'll get some on-the-ground reporting from him as to the mood of the capital city.
All of that and more.
Lots of videos to get to.
And since things aren't quite as crazy today as they've been the last few days, we'll be able to...
Because there's a lot of very interesting and entertaining and funny and bizarre stuff that has fallen to the wayside with all the Israel-Iran coverage.
We'll try to make up for that.
Your phone calls, lots of videos, and so much more.
Stay with us.
But first, here it is, your Daily Dispatch.
unidentified
*Bell rings* *Bell rings*
harrison smith
Here it is, folks, your daily dispatch for Friday, the 20th of June, 2025.
AFLAC hack may have exposed Social Security and health data in latest insurance industry breach.
Cybercriminals have breached insurance giant AFLAC, potentially stealing Social Security numbers.
Insurance claim and health information, the company said Friday.
The latest in a spree of hacks against the insurance industry.
And this may be...
There have been a couple major cyber attack hacks and whether this is related to the ongoing conflict as obviously the cyber aspect of war is getting increasing importance.
We're not really sure, but some of the biggest hacks ever have happened very recently.
And so you might want to change your password.
So everybody out there might want to go through and update your passwords just in case.
Meanwhile, Israel and Iran launched strikes a week into their war as new diplomatic efforts take place.
So it has been one week since the initial strikes.
The war between Israel and Iran has entered its second week as of June 20th with continued airstrikes, mostly in Iran and missile attacks on Israel.
Last Friday, Israel launched attacks on Iran aiming to hinder its progress towards nuclear armament, supposedly, prompting Iran to respond with missiles and drone assaults targeting Israel.
Israeli airstrikes have resulted in approximately 639 deaths in Iran, including key military figures and nuclear researchers, while Iranian missile attacks.
We're not expecting exactly accurate numbers from either of these organizations.
Meanwhile, Foreign Minister David Lammy of Britain emphasized the urgent need to halt the serious violence in the Middle East and avoid a wider regional conflict, noting that there's a critical two-week period available for diplomatic efforts.
It's two weeks to slow the spread, folks.
It's two weeks to slow the spread of World War III.
We'll have a whole different type of mask this time.
The conflict has prompted diplomatic efforts with European ministers meeting Iran's foreign minister, while the U.S. president will decide within two weeks about possible direct involvement amid escalating threats and no sign of de-escalation.
But honestly, the lack of escalation may be a good sign in and of itself.
And again, we'll get into sort of the MAGA divide, what exactly Trump is doing here.
What he's playing, there's an interesting potential outcome of this.
There's an interesting way this whole situation really can be interpreted, being that Israel might be kind of screwed here.
they might be a little bit screwed.
It's seeming to me...
unidentified
Thank you.
harrison smith
Because I'm trying to make sense of this, because Israel launching this attack on Iran, and maybe we should grab the video.
There's a video of, I think it's Ben Gavir, one of Netanyahu's sort of underling guys.
And he's being yelled at on the streets.
By Israelis, and he's yelling back at them.
And they're going, why didn't you wait until America got involved?
Or, you know, what is going on here?
And Pinkafir's yelling back, we didn't realize how strong the Iranian missiles were.
And I don't, you know, in this war, you sort of have to take everything for a grain of salt, with a grain of salt.
But, you know, this could have been a miscalculation on Israel's part.
Or maybe they, you know, had some sort of guarantee from Trump where he was like, oh yeah, you guys bomb, and we'll come in, you know.
Within 72 hours or so.
And they were like, great.
And they launched the attacks and 72 hours went by.
Trump went, well, maybe we're not going to end.
Maybe next week.
Maybe in the next 24, maybe in the next 48 hours.
But at this point, Israel is running low on its Iron Dome interceptors.
Again, we're just in the fog of war here, so, you know, I want...
Especially, and I think we all knew this was coming.
I can't trust video anymore really either with all the AI out there.
Because I've seen videos that appears to show Iran slamming Tel Aviv, bombing Israel with absolutely no interceptors even attempting to block the missiles.
But it's, you know, there's a media blackout out of Israel.
There's a media blackout out of Iran.
Iran's internet is completely down at this point.
You know, figure out who's telling the truth, what's going on.
Colonel Douglas McGregor says a third of Tel Aviv has either been destroyed or damaged.
How he's judging that?
It's impossible to say, like, a third of the buildings have been damaged, a third of the area is destroyed.
But that's a lot.
That's a huge deal if it's even partially true.
But then if the death count in Israel is really, you know, as low as 24, Clearly, the destruction is not nearly as widespread as destruction being wrought in Iran.
Again, we're just going to try to parcel through the claims by both sides and try to figure out exactly what's going on here.
But just looking at it, you know, all-encompassing and in a holistic bird's-eye view sort of way, it seems to me like Israel expected America to be involved by this point, and the fact that we're not is making them panic.
And is really not going well for them.
I mean, after all, Hezbollah's not gotten involved.
Hamas has not, you know, really stepped up their attacks at all.
Israel is continuing to slaughter people in Gaza, mostly the ones waiting in line for food.
Another couple dozen killed yesterday.
I mean, every day they're mass murdering and slaughtering Palestinians waiting in line for food because they're our greatest allies.
So we'll – so – So we'll see where this goes, but all of this has an interesting dimension to it, which is the MAGA divide.
And it's gone from people saying, you know, trust Trump, Iran can't have a bomb, that's what Trump always said, we're going to war, hoorah, this is going to be easy.
To now them saying, actually, you're just a fear monger and a liar for saying that Trump was going to go to war.
He's not going to war and he's never going to war.
And you're the idiot for believing him when he said he was.
So we'll have to just tackle all these arguments.
It's sort of yet another, to me, acid test, litmus test for who can be trusted and who can, who has their priorities.
With America and who is either paid, you know, bootlicker of Donald Trump or Israel first.
I think it's becoming pretty obvious where people land.
But we'll get into it.
So if it turns out that Trump never ends up committing American troops and doesn't get involved in Iran, It sort of hangs Israel out to dry.
I think that means we won.
I think that means the anti-war people actually won the argument and succeeded over the influence of the warmongering Israel first Zionist donor class.
So that would be amazing.
That would be huge.
And this really is the brilliant...
This is our brilliant strategy.
I'm about to reveal to you how Infowars are.
Okay?
You take a position where the outcome will always be in your favor.
In other words, all the people cheering for war with Iran, you know, championing war with Iran, we don't actually go to war with Iran.
Frankly, they're going to look like idiots.
If we do go to war with Iran, they're going to look like really big idiots.
Because it's not going to go well.
It's not going to be easy.
It's going to cost a crap ton of money.
Again, we've been over this.
There is no positive outcome for America's involvement in this.
Already, this week has been a week of death and destruction and division in America and just anxiety and strife and being distracted from the things that actually matter while simultaneously riots are going off and ICE agents are being kicked out of places.
So it's just been a week of chaos and nonsense and retardation that we never should have embarked on anyway.
But no matter how it ends, either we go to war with Iran and it's going to be a terrible idea and we'll be proven right eventually, like we always are.
Or we don't go to war with Iran and we'll succeed in that way.
And we'll have won the argument and we will have stopped us from And it is looking increasingly like World War III as you now have two Chinese spy boats entering into the Persian Gulf.
And you also have Russian warplanes buzzing American naval ships off the coast of Russia.
So both China and Russia are signaling to America, you really want to get involved?
We might get involved if you get involved.
And look, we can shoot flares right past your boats.
See how we do that?
We'll show you those videos.
Things are getting a little complicated.
Basically, all of the American ships have abandoned the Strait of Hormuz.
If that gets shut down, it's an economic disaster.
There's just no positive outcome to this whatsoever.
So the only move here is to oppose all of this.
So again, if you want to be looking back at this time period, 5 or 10 years from now, and say, yep, I was on the right side of that, just oppose the war.
You can just oppose the war.
And either you can be happy that you won the argument and we're not in war, or you can be proven right eventually when we go to war and it turns out to be an embarrassing disaster like it is every single time.
Stick with Infowars, and you'll never have to apologize for the positions that you hold, unlike every single other person in every other right-wing media outlet.
Should, but never does.
They don't actually apologize.
Maybe we should grab, because Matt Gaetz did a, he has a show now, and he had a compilation of people pushing for the Iraq War in 2003, or 2002, I guess this was.
And it is interesting to go back and hear just exactly the same things being said today as were said back then.
And hey, they were just as convincing back then and they were just as wrong back then.
So we'll try to show you all that here a little bit later.
This is the latest.
Trump to decide on U.S. action in Israel-Iran conflict within two weeks, White House says.
The air war between Israel and Iran entered its second week on June 20th with ongoing missile and airstrikes in both countries.
The conflict began June 13th.
President Trump said on June 19th, you would decide within two weeks whether to involve the U.S. militarily, citing a substantial chance of negotiations with Iran.
European officials sought to bring Iran back to negotiations as the conflict threatened Iran's 46-year rule in regional stability.
And there have been some bizarre developments here where it's like, Trump's like, I'm going to give a two-week deadline, I guess.
You know.
Again, this is just, you know, flip-flopping.
It's like, nope, no talks.
We don't want talks, but actually we are having talks.
And it's too late.
The deadline's over.
We want complete surrender, but we are opening negotiations.
And you have two weeks to come up with a conclusion.
And I get it.
It's just like this is negotiation tactics, but I still it's.
So why are we doing it?
That really, again, is at the center of the conversation, or at least should be, why?
Period.
Why, question mark?
Why are we doing this?
Why are we involved in this?
Why don't we take care of all of the incredible, crazy problems that we have domestically, tearing us apart from the inside out?
Why throw this wrench in the spokes of the MAGA movement?
And then again, maybe it could all be intertwined.
Maybe this was the deal that was made with the people that control the Senate, like Lindsey Graham.
They've wanted an Iran war forever.
They're seeing a particularly advantageous time right now to take this on.
Israel, obviously, is desperate to destroy Iran because otherwise the last year and a half will really, really not be good for them into the future.
And more and more people are realizing that.
I've been saying it for months.
So maybe Lindsey Graham and the Chuck Schumers and other senators saw this as an opportunity.
Trump really wants his big, beautiful bill passed.
He needs all of our support.
Why don't we get what we want in return?
We'll pass your big, beautiful bill, but you've got to go to war with Iran first.
There could have been some dirty dealing like that.
Will never make any sense, but that does seem to be the construct as it stands.
So, really, at the end of this, and the fascinating thing with this conflict is, second only to the war against Gaza itself, like the war against Gaza, Woke up more people to the pernicious influence of Israel on the American government than any other event ever could have.
And now the war with Iran is like supercharging that awakening to where the Overton window has basically been shattered completely.
And the...
unidentified
Thank you.
harrison smith
Right?
This influence, this advantage can only exist when it's not discussed or when the discussion about it is able to be shut down or curtailed by claims of anti-Semitism.
That's kind of going away, which is the first step in actually removing the influence, which, you know, it's going to be a lot longer until we actually remove the influence.
It's still very much in control.
The fact that people are talking about it now, I mean, this could be a monumental shift in American governance for the first time in like 40 years.
It would be amazing.
It truly would be amazing.
We'll continue.
We'll get back into all this.
It is a transformational time in world history right now.
We are in a transition period of one sort or another and where we end up on the other side of this is up to us choosing whether to be a spectator of this epic or actually grab the steering wheel and guide it by spreading our ideas and Moving the conversation and not surrendering or giving up or allowing us to be rhetorically outflanked by
the people who, for the last, again, several decades, have gotten us into war after war after war through these sorts of tactics.
Meanwhile, NIH is launching long-term health studies of East Palestine train crash.
On February 3, 2023, a 38-car-long freight train operated by Norfolk Southern crashed near East Palestine, Ohio, releasing dangerous chemicals and sparking a major fire.
The derailment occurred after a wheel-bearing caught fire, which caused the axle to fall off and led to the evacuation of over 2,000 residents amid toxic smoke and controlled burns.
The toxic spill triggered widespread health complaints, including headaches and respiratory issues, prompting ongoing concerns and calls for well-coordinated health tracking and research on the affected community.
And on June 19th, 2025, officials announced a new five-year, $10 million NIH initiative to study the spill's long-term health effects, hailed by Vice President J.D. Vance as a step to provide science-backed answers.
The research aims to improve public health surveillance in East Palestine and help residents access care, reflecting federal efforts to address the disaster's lasting impacts after earlier criticism of response delays.
of this, of course, is And it was, in no uncertain terms, a mass poisoning of the American people.
And the result of an endless cascade of mistakes and failures and incompetency.
Really symbolic of our dying country.
Meanwhile, appeals court lets Trump keep National Guard troops deployed to Los Angeles during protests on Thursday.
A federal appeals court permitted President Donald Trump to maintain authority over 4,000 members of the California National Guard who were sent to Los Angeles amid demonstrations protesting immigration enforcement actions.
The deployment, made without Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom's consent, sparked a lawsuit claiming Trump unlawfully federalized the Guard to suppress protests and militarize the situation.
Despite failing to notify Newsom, and the ruling blocks a lower court order that returned guard control to the governor.
This decision prolongs the constitutional dispute over presidential authority to deploy military forces domestically and leaves federal control over National Guard as the lawsuit continues.
unidentified
All right, welcome back, folks.
harrison smith
The twist and turn in this Iran saga.
And I'll try just to bring you the facts on this, but I am tempted to defend our position and explain yet again why the...
why the, the, I, I don't even know what the divide is at this point.
It's like MAGA versus American first, but American first to be Israel first, but MAGA Because that's exactly what they said the last couple of times it happened.
Like I said, I mean, the news...
It really is difficult to get a handle on what the situation actually is.
We'll do our best.
Again, we've got both sides simultaneously boasting and playing victim.
It's a little bit difficult to wrap your mind around.
And how much Trump actually wants to commit America to this exercise is sort of unknown to anybody but him.
Yesterday, I said when Trump opened up the possibility for more talks with Iran, It seemed like Trump had been bluffing and Iran called their bluff, called his bluff.
It still sort of looks like that.
However, I'm wondering if this wasn't part of his calculus all along.
A lot of people saying that they're hearing that we're still going to get involved, that the order's already been Signed and delivered and that it'll happen either today, later after the market closes, or sometime this weekend so that we can have at least a day or two to get used to the idea that we're in war so there's not a major shock to the stock market.
And I've seen that, you know, supposition spread quite a few places.
We're saying Trump caution on Iran strike linked to doubts over bunker buster bomb, officials say.
The likelihood of a successful U.S. strike in the Iranian nuclear facility buried deep underground at Fordow is a topic of deep contention, defense officials say.
Donald Trump has suggested to defense officials it would make sense for U.S. to launch strikes against Iran only if the so-called bunker buster bomb was guaranteed to destroy the critical uranium enrichment facility at Fordow.
According to people familiar with the deliberations, Trump was told that dropping the GBU-57s, a 13.6 ton, that's a 30,000 pound bomb, would effectively eliminate Fordow, but he does not appear to be fully convinced, the people said, and held off authorizing strikes as he also awaits the possibility that the threat of U.S. involvement would lead Iran to talks.
And there's a couple aspects of this.
For one thing, they aren't sure if the bunker buster bomb would be effective on installations that deep underground.
They also aren't totally sure where exactly it is.
After all, you've got to be pretty certain if you're dropping a bunker buster bomb where your target is.
You don't have a lot of them.
You can't just blink an entire area.
They say Trump is not considering using a tactical nuclear weapon on Fordow, and the possibility was not presented by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Cain, in meetings with the White House in the Situation Room, two people familiar with the matter said.
But defense officials who received the briefing were told that using conventional bombs— You also have Iran claiming that they knew that this attack was coming.
They knew the Israeli surprise attack was coming and basically said, yeah, we moved all of the stuff out of the areas where they thought it was.
So I don't even know if they're totally...
Any effort to destroy Fordow would require US involvement because Israel does not possess the ordinance to strike a facility that deep or the planes to carry them.
The difficulty with using the GBU-57 to target Fordow, according to the two officials familiar with the DTRA briefing, lies in part with the characteristics of the facility which is buried inside a mountain and the fact that the bomb has never been used in a comparable situation before.
It would not be one and done, former DTRA Deputy Director Retired General Randy Manor said of the GBU-57's limitations, adding that Fordow could be quickly rebuilt.
It might set the program back six months to a year.
It sounds good for TV, but it's not real.
The bomb is commonly known as a bunker buster because it was designed to destroy underground bunkers, but it only can be carried by a B-2 bomber that has air superiority and requires solid GPS signal to lock in on its target.
While Israel has said it established air superiority over Iran, a successful strike would still require any GPS jammers and other defenses to be taken out in advance.
And for the GBU-57 to penetrate deep enough into the ground to neutralize the facility.
So, you know, I just I wonder.
I wonder if Israel is regretting their decision to kick this thing off without a rock solid guarantee from the Trump administration that they'd be involved by this point.
Or if they.
Until they could have convinced America to lead the charge or at least have gear and equipment pre-staged and ready to go and locked in to some sort of overall bilateral plan to attack Iran.
Seems like maybe they just thought they'd be able to wing it, kind of.
And again, I mean, it sounds crazy that that would be the case.
Obviously, winging it might not be the...
But launch the attack on the assumption that Iran would counterattack and that the pressure that they could bring to bear against the Trump administration would convince him to join the attack.
In other words, I can see the conversations going on where they're going, we've got to get this done, we've got to attack Iran.
Trump's almost there.
He's almost with us.
He's almost on board.
Can't quite get rid of Tulsi Gabbard yet.
Pete Hegseth still a stick in the spokes for us.
J.D. Vance and others are swaying him away from intervention, but we're almost there.
We can try a little harder.
We can try to push this and get him to be involved.
Maybe we just kick this off ourselves.
Maybe we kick this off ourselves.
We can handle it for like 48, 72 hours, and Trump will get in.
Once the war kicks off, that'll convince him.
I wonder if that was the calculus that was made, only to have Trump go, yeah, you know, you got this for a little while.
I think you guys are good.
Let's give it two weeks.
And I don't know if Israel has two weeks.
I mean, this is going to be a very interesting two weeks.
You've got Trump saying that he's going to wait two weeks to make a final decision.
Immediately, Mossad coincidentally comes out and says, well, what do you know?
Iran is 15 days from being able to finish a nuclear bomb because they just make things up.
Because this is all arbitrary and hogwash, but it's still interesting that they bring this up.
You also have reports that Israel is about two weeks from running out of ammo for their Iron Dome.
I believe they're being resupplied with a lot of those interceptors, and you still have the Thad interceptors and others.
But they're not even really being that effective.
So what happens in the next two weeks?
And what world do we live in at the end of the next two weeks?
And it's almost like to interpret what's going on, how do you even put it?
Because there's just, there's so much stuff that Seems to me to be clearly like propaganda.
The propaganda always has a purpose.
We're seeing claims from both sides that sometimes contradict each other.
And it's almost like what you have to do is just like read and look at as much as you possibly can and then just step back.
It's like doing one of those magic eye pictures.
You can't look directly at it.
You can't focus directly on it.
You kind of have to unfocus your eyes and just take in the whole milieu.
And when I do that, I see a level of panic emanating from the Israeli side.
I can't exactly point to specific evidence.
It's just a sense I get.
It's a sense of desperation.
It's a sense of panic.
It's a sense of urgency that wasn't there 24 or 48 hours ago.
Part of that is just like the number of stories that have come out in the last 24 hours which seem to be kind of out of nowhere and baseless but are all obviously designed to Push the idea of us going to war with Iran.
You've got all of these polls coming out.
Actually, MAGA really, really wants war with Iran.
And actually, they're only 15 days away from a nuclear missile.
And actually, we just found proof that Iran is trying to assassinate Trump.
And what do you know, we have proof that Iran was They're getting desperate.
Again, I could show you all the articles and the headlines, but it's not necessarily a logical conclusion.
It's more of just a feeling.
It's more of just a vibe I'm going with here.
At this point, it's the only things we can trust as far as I know.
As far as I can tell, the only things we can really trust are animal instincts about this idea.
TheCradle.co It has been a really reliable resource for me for this whole conflict, and they seem to at least partly agree with this interpretation that Tel Aviv is miscalculating.
They say Tel Aviv miscalculates why Israel's shock strategy failed against Iran.
The Israeli occupation state's early morning blitz on June 13th, the most brazen assault on Iranian soil in decades, was designed to replicate its past successes in Lebanon.
But it didn't work.
That Friday morning, Israeli fighter jets launched multiple attacks across Iran.
Sixty civilians were killed in a residential tower.
Several top nuclear scientists and senior military commanders were assassinated.
And key air defenses and nuclear infrastructure sites were hit.
The strikes marked hot.
A failed template.
This shock and awe blueprint.
Found some success in Lebanon, where Israeli intelligence had achieved deep penetration.
But in Tehran, it met a far more resilient nation.
While U.S. President Donald Trump loudly demanded Iran abandon its nuclear enrichment rights, he pursued a carrot-and-stick approach of maximum pressure sanctions, military threats, and negotiations to try to persuade Tehran to accept his unilateral demands during indirect talks.
This pattern had previously been repeated in the Ukraine-Russia conflict after negotiation deadlocks involving operations deep inside Russia and attacks on Russian strategic bombers.
For months, Tehran had calculated Israel's Hezbollah strike model as one likely scenario for an attack on Iran.
Accordingly, measures were taken to quickly replace commanders in such an event.
At least tactically, however, Israel still managed to shock Iran with its attacks, mostly resulting from domestic infiltration and sabotage operations.
But you've got the Iranians claiming that they sort of knew this was coming.
Now, obviously, they didn't do enough to substantially mitigate the effects, especially the assassination attempts.
unidentified
But they, you know...
harrison smith
We can still operate incredibly functionally.
They're like, we've not even used 5% of our missiles.
It seems like they're taking a, believe it or not, war of attrition strategy with Israel.
You would think Iran being isolated and sanctioned as much as humanly possible.
They, you know, would not win a long, drawn-out conflict, but in fact, it seems as though they're, like, beta testing, A-B testing their missiles and the Iron Dome's ability to stop them.
And they're out there, and I'll show you some of the videos of the new commander of the IRGC talking about, like, the combinations.
Being like, yeah, we figured out that, you know, this missile combined with this missile You know, really is the way to get through the Iron Dome we get through every time.
So they're using older missiles to waste the Iron Dome's ammunition.
The Iron Dome is significantly more expensive to operate than the drones or missiles that Iran is firing.
So every interception is, in a way, a minor victory for Iran because they spend $200,000 to make Israel waste $12 million.
Of course, that's America's money.
Continually resupplying their interceptor ammunition, but they're starting to run low.
And Iran has not unleashed its really big weapons.
They've not brought Hezbollah to bear.
In fact, that's being used as a bargaining chip as well, or a threat.
Hezbollah saying, hey, we still have 100,000 missiles.
We haven't gotten involved.
If America gets involved in Iran, Hezbollah gets involved.
That's another sort of aspect to this, hanging there.
After all, as successful as their assassination mission was against Hezbollah.
They're still fairly strong and not entirely weakened.
I'm going to get a video from Colonel Douglas McGregor here.
Where he says that a third of Tel Aviv has been damaged or destroyed.
Again, it's impossible to know because the media has been blacked out in both of these areas.
And even when the media is not blacked out, both the areas lie as easily as they breathe.
So we're just trying to untangle this incredibly convoluted mess.
I got a lot of videos about this and the overall outcome of this when it comes to America is that the mask is coming off the Israeli first contingent of our country.
And you've seen that with Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson.
And I think in terms of the Infowar, it's important that we understand Just how well orchestrated all of this has been up to this point.
And just encourage people to literally just think for themselves, not trust the language that you're hearing on Fox News or from the neocons.
And it's a weird position to be in because...
unidentified
Thank you.
Which means we're doomed to fail.
harrison smith
You would think, one would think, that after not just the Middle East wars, but the COVID pandemic, and just the overwhelming amount of lies, even things like the Russia collusion hoax, and the Biden incompetence cover-up and the Hunter Biden laptop cover-up.
You would think that there was nobody left in America even giving the most remote credence to the claims of the American government, especially certain people in our American government.
But I got a really bad feeling that for the mass majority of MAGA voters out there, they're just buying all of this hook, line, and sinker.
No matter how convoluted it is, no matter how nonsensical it is, no matter how obvious the total absence of evidence is, this is, again, one of these amazing things.
They've gone from carrying out false flags attacks to kill a bunch of Americans to start a war, to just claiming that Americans are dying and not even killing anybody.
It's like fighting.
We're like fighting with ghosts here because they are pushing us towards war with Iran based on nothing.
So it's like there's nothing even to disprove.
They're just asserting things and people are buying it.
I can't tell why.
I don't know why.
I think we would have learned our lesson by now.
Apparently not.
We'll go to some videos that sort of explain more or less what I'm talking about.
Go to clip number 13, where an Israeli spokesperson is asked, where's the evidence for their claims?
And they don't even seem to be able to comprehend the question.
Let's watch.
unidentified
Minister, can I come to your point about Israel having to do this at the last minute?
And the claim from your prime minister that Iran was very close to developing a nuclear weapon.
What is the evidence to back that claim?
Okay, so look, you know Israeli intelligence.
You know what we've done also quite a few years ago with bringing the entire data from their nuclear program, military program, into Israel as well to collect intel.
We have some of the best intel in the world.
Obviously, I can't share with you on television everything that we know, but we are very, very accurate.
The prime minister is very accurate in his assessment.
The maximum was about six months, but we take into account Because, you know, we've seen this story before in the Middle East.
And Benjamin Netanyahu has been saying for years, for decades, that Iran is very close to having a nuclear weapon.
So can you understand some people saying we'd like to see the evidence?
So first of all, a lot of our intelligence is being shared with security agencies.
We actually have a very close collaboration with the Australian security agencies as well.
Has this been shared with Australia?
Two weeks ago, it's not Israel.
I'll just say, I cannot say what we can and what we can't, but I can tell you there's a very close cooperation and a very close share of intelligence as well with some of our allies.
Iran has been deceiving the international community for years now.
They have right now an amount sufficient for 10 nuclear warheads.
Three of them were produced just in recent months.
Well, we haven't seen the evidence of that.
We haven't seen the evidence of that.
harrison smith
Do you have any evidence?
Well, our intelligence agency, really good friends with Australia.
Do you have any evidence for the claims that you're making?
The answer is no.
Long story short, the answer is no.
There is no evidence.
There's no evidence.
There's not.
That whole video summed up.
She could have just been like, nope.
So she used a whole bunch of words to basically say, nope.
But also, you know, no, but you're not allowed to question us.
More or less.
You know, this is the type of stuff where it's like, this is embarrassing.
They got nothing.
They got nothing.
They got nothing to present.
They got no leverage.
They got no ability to protect themselves.
They apparently don't have any ability to stop Iran from launching missiles.
Things aren't looking too hot for Israel these days.
I'm going to take your calls on this on the other side.
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breanna morello
Become a whistleblower.
It's an X. You're done.
Game over.
This is the administration that's telling people to come forward as whistleblowers rather than leaking to the media.
Look how they treat whistleblowers.
Like garbage.
They don't care.
Nobody cares.
I have tried repeatedly reaching out for comments to leadership within the Republican Party, obviously the FBI, which I've probably burnt so many bridges now with them that most of them don't even respond to me anymore.
Do I care?
No.
I don't want your damn exclusive content.
I don't want you just giving me an exclusive just because of what?
I don't care!
Again, my career, over tomorrow, wouldn't shed a tear.
But I'm here for a reason.
I'm here to stand up for these people.
And it's a lonely, lonely angle, I gotta say.
Not many people, and I've reached out, not many people want to get on the side of going against Dan Bongino and Cash Patel.
Again, I don't hate Dan.
He went into this for the right reasons.
But this is something that needs to be made right now.
Fortunately, fortunately, and this is a picture, of course, of Garrett and Cash, who were previously friends, probably not so much anymore.
But there's one brave person speaking out about the issue, and I'm very excited for this.
Tom Fitton, over at Digital Watch, has criticized.
Criticize the current FBI, because number one, they promised you the Epstein list, the Epstein documents, and they haven't even turned them into Judicial Watch, who's currently suing for them.
They haven't given me anything.
As many of you guys know, I actually did a FOIA request and requested through the BOP, the Bureau of Prisons, Epstein's call logs and his recordings.
They told me that it didn't exist.
They searched and they couldn't find it, which again is strange.
But he's brave enough to say what everyone needs to hear.
Let's listen to Tom Fitton go and give the American people a very truthful response to what's currently happening with the new FBI.
tom fitton
And the fact that the whistleblowers haven't been vindicated or provided justice is a real black mark.
on Cash's and Dan's tenure thus far.
There's no good reason for it.
I know all the reasons why it isn't being done, why it isn't done, because we've been representing whistleblowers and working with whistleblowers for decades here at Judicial Watch.
It's because the FBI culturally and institutionally doesn't want to do it, and the leadership isn't going to buck it or haven't bucked it yet.
No excuses.
breanna morello
I'm very thankful for Tom Fitton's transparency in all this, his honesty, because you don't win over the new FBI with all of this.
You know, there's this massive effort of pressure, whether it's conservative influencers or journalists, to play nice.
And I don't mind playing nice, but we're not going to lie.
We're not going to sit here and smile on your face and tell you that everything's okay because it's not okay.
This was something, this was a litmus test.
This was the very first thing that should have happened.
When coming back into the FBI, when coming to the FBI, in fact.
And it was something that Cash Patel held deeply in his heart.
And after being sworn in, things have shifted.
So again, you don't want to go after these people.
I don't want to sit here and bash them.
I don't know what's in their head.
I don't know if there's been threats issued to them.
I could just tell you that this is not right.
When people come forward, they report things that they're witnessing.
They don't participate in the weaponization of our federal government, like Steve Friend, who did not want to sit there and ram in the doors of J6ers, who may have trespassed.
In an unmarked area or an area that wasn't clearly marked, he didn't want to ram in the front door, so there was no reason to do that.
When he was pulled off of child pornography cases, which are the most egregious cases in this country, and he comes forward and he tells you that this is what's going on in this federal government right now, and everything that those two men told you has checked out to be right.
In fact, now we have Cash Tell leaking it to other, not Cash Tell directly, but the FBI leaking it directly to other journalists, other influencers, all of these exclusive stories that back what these guys have been telling you for years now.
And then you sit there, you slap him in the face, you say, sorry, no job for you.
You can't feed your families.
It's absolutely egregious.
So the point of all of this is to not only call it out, but also to remind everyone that these two men right now are struggling to get by because the previous regime punished them, and the current administration is now allowing this all to be carried out.
How do we stop this?
harrison smith
This is Brianna Morello, of course, with another incredible report at Brianna Morello on X, and she just dropped.
A little teaser for another report she's about to drop.
Several TSA employees have been fired for their roles in the Quiet Skies terror watch list.
That, of course, is the unconstitutional watch list restricting travel for people like Tulsi Gabbard.
All right, welcome back.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the American Journal.
Second hour is on.
unidentified
I'm going to open up the phone lines for your calls this hour.
harrison smith
We're going to check in on Wid Lyman, White House correspondent for BorderHoff News.
He's there in Washington, D.C. We'll ask him about what the mood of the city is there.
Obviously, the conflicts between Israel and Iran dominating the news cycle.
And I imagine dominating discussions there in the Capitol.
But we'll get the report from him.
I want to hear from our audience about what they think about what's going on.
We have a lot of other stories that I want to get to today since we've sort of let other topics languish as we've focused on trying desperately to prevent World War III.
And it does seem like we've had some success in that.
Using the royal we, meaning we, the dissidents, the anti-war, the true MAGA, America First People, Trump meets with Steve Bannon ahead of decision to delay Iran attack.
So he did choose to delay this attack.
Again, I'll cover it a little bit more.
But there's so much conflicting information.
And we got other stuff to talk about.
But I do want to take your calls on the topic.
The number to dial if you want to call in.
1-877-789-2539.
1-877-789-2539.
And I'd really like you to call in if you, if you expect there to be a positive outcome from any of this, you think that, So far, I haven't seen anybody even suggest what a positive outcome might look like.
So far, it looks like there's no endgame plan here.
Which is one of the primary reasons I oppose it.
But if you think this is a good idea, give us a call.
1-877-789-2539.
One of the stories that...
The proposed Bureau of Land Management land deal is part of the Senate Budgets Reconciliation Bill, known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, introduced in June 2025.
It mandates the sale of 2 to 3.3 million acres of public lands managed by BLM.
Bureau of Land Management and U.S. Forest Service over five years across 11 western states, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming.
Over 250 million acres of BLM and USFS lands are eligible for sale, including lands with grazing permits, significantly expanding the original estimate of 120 million acres.
This apparently is aimed at addressing the housing crisis by prioritizing land sales for housing development or infrastructure to support local housing needs.
Though it lacks affordability requirements or enforcement mechanisms.
Critics argue it's a pretext to fund tax cuts for the welfare.
wealthy with revenue estimates of $5 to $10 billion over 2025 to 2034.
Which to me just seems like a pitiful amount of money.
Don't get me wrong, it's Five to ten billion dollars is almost unimaginable.
But it's a percentage of a portion of what we've sent to Ukraine or what we're currently sending to Israel or what we spend on USAID or what we spend on immigration.
It's a drop in the bucket compared to that stuff.
And you're talking about selling off portions of our country forever.
For affordable housing developments?
That's the worst.
Nobody wants more of that.
Nobody wants more affordable housing.
I would venture to guess that if you polled the American people on what the least favorite parts of their cities are, it's the so-called affordable housing.
That's replacing single family home neighborhoods.
The poorly constructed homes.
Everywhere you look, it's infuriating and just simply ugly and dehumanizing and it does nothing to improve our lives or even the price of housing.
What would improve the price of housing would be Deporting 100 million people.
If you want to do anything for the housing market, the number one thing to be would be deport all of the illegals here and while you're at it, stop bringing in legal migrants.
Stop hiring Indian people at half the price and flooding our country.
With innumerable foreign populations.
That would be the thing you'd do for housing.
And if that's not enough, if you're still desperate, might I suggest we try to reclaim some of the blighted and abandoned land in our major cities?
I don't know if you've ever been to a place like Baltimore, but I just, I can't see the justification of looking at, like, Parkland just Open prairie and canyons and going, yeah, this, you know, we need here is to spend millions of dollars to build brand new housing for 10 million Pakistanis.
How about instead we take the buildings that are already standing in places like Baltimore, where if you go there, I mean, there are entire neighborhoods that are ghost towns.
It's creepy.
It's like weird.
It's weird.
There's certain places I've been.
And this is like 30 minutes from Washington, D.C. And it's just as far as the eye can see.
There's row houses.
There's nobody there.
There's no cars.
There's like broken windows and graffiti.
But you can tell that these neighborhoods were once thriving, vibrant places.
Why not reclaim some of that?
So we're going to let that sit fallow and destitute and rot away inside our major cities.
And we're going to build a bunch of crap.
In the Grand Canyon, that's your solution.
And most of the criticism of this is just more or less on that basis of just like, what?
Just don't touch our lands.
Don't sell off our federal land.
Why would you do that?
Once you sell it, you're never getting it back.
We don't want there to be affordable housing on our national land.
And they say, well, it's not a parkland.
The monument land isn't being taken.
It doesn't matter.
We don't want to build more housing in this country.
We want to get rid of the people that are taking up our current housing.
And if anything, we should just rebuild the parts of the country that already have infrastructure, that already used to house populations, but that are empty now because of this mismanagement of our economy over the last several decades.
In favor of this.
Like, I just don't even understand what could possibly be the argument of this.
And the people making the arguments for it are like, hey, we're worth $37 trillion in debt, and we got this asset sitting here not making us any money.
It could be making us money.
It could make us $5 to $10 billion over the next 10 years.
You're going to sell off this land permanently, probably to foreign investors, definitely to house foreigners, for $5 to $10 billion?
0.1% of a trillion dollars?
I don't even know how to do this math.
It's nothing.
It's vanishingly small amounts of money, but millions of acres of wild land to be paved over.
Just why?
Just who is asking for this?
I'm trying not to get too blackpilled about Trump, but I don't know what's happened over the last month or so.
It's not complicated.
Really not hard to achieve the demands of the American people that voted for Donald Trump.
We have a very, very short list of demands.
Deport the criminals.
Deport the illegal aliens.
Stop bringing in new aliens, legal or illegal.
Punish the criminals that have sold us out over the last several decades.
And ran COVID and ran the Russia collusion hoax and protected Jeffrey Epstein and all of the other crime that we know they've committed.
Punish them for that.
Deport the people.
Stop them from using federal resources to teach your kids to be gay or cut off their genitals.
Like, deal with the insanity that we're dealing with at home.
These are like existential problems that we have to deal with as soon as humanly possible because the longer you put them off, the harder they're going to be to deal with.
To the point that they're going to be impossible to deal with.
Like the expulsion of the temporary protected status people.
Like we need to get them out before the Democrats have a chance to get in and write a bill saying actually they're all citizens now and making deportation practically impossible.
Like we have a vanishing, vanishing window of opportunity to do the things that we need to be done.
Why is this happening?
Just, my God.
They really, it's like they're desperate to fulfill every bad stereotype of Republicans.
Somebody wrote, and I can't get it out of my head, like the boomer generation is desperate to just eat all of the seed corn before they go.
They're just looking around.
I mean, it really is like America is being downsized by a company.
It's like we got bought by a corporation that's just looking around at the assets and they don't even want to make the money with it.
They're just like, let's just sell it for parts.
Let's just sell America for parts.
We still got some land.
We can sell that away.
It feels like a once wealthy family.
That's just being run by somebody with a gambling addiction or something.
It's like, well, you could preserve all this beautiful land and all of these enterprises and all of these great instruments of wealth for the future generations.
Or you could just sell it now to get quick cash to fund your addiction.
Because you're going to die and then after that, who cares, right?
Doesn't matter.
You're dead.
Maybe just preserve it for your later generations.
Auction off everything you possibly can while you can.
Why?
Why would this?
So stupid.
It really is so stupid.
Again, for just a nothing amount of money.
And when you talk about $5 or $10 billion, it is a staggering amount of money.
But if you're saying that you need to raise this money to pay off the $37 trillion debt, Yeah, I'm not seeing the argument here.
I'm not seeing the major impact this is going to have.
And the question remains, just why?
Just why is this the course that we're taking?
unidentified
Just why?
harrison smith
And it's another one of these things where people are like, oh, MAGA is being so divided.
That's because the people pretending to be MAGA are just doing a ton of crap that we don't want them to do.
And not doing the things that we desperately need them to do.
We're supposed to just go along with this, with the war in Iran and with the selling of parkland.
Millions and millions of acres of pristine wilderness.
We can build affordable housing.
This has been a meme for so long.
We just show a picture of like the Grand Canyon.
You know what this really needs is a Walmart.
That's what it's missing.
You know what this is missing is, you know, Amelie apartment buildings.
What this is missing is three to four story plaster boxes.
That's what America really needs.
So again, I can't even tell what the argument is here.
Senator Mike Lee is the one pushing this.
He has this fact versus fiction federal land sale bill, what it actually does.
The claim, this is a wholesale sell-off of our national parks and monuments.
False.
The truth, the bill prohibits any sale of national parks, national monuments, wilderness areas, historic sites, recreation areas, and other protected units.
Okay.
Every acre eligible for sale will be sold.
False.
Eligibility only means a parcel may be evaluated.
Most will never be conveyed, and any disposal will still require local consultation and environmental review.
But why even open it up to it?
We know how the government works, right?
They're not going to ask for permission for something and then not do it.
Like, we want to make all of this land available for sale.
We want to sell that land?
No, never!
We want to make it available for sale.
But you're not going to sell it?
Oh, probably not.
We do want it available for sale, just in case.
We want it eligible to be sold.
It's like, well, then you're going to sell it.
We're not stupid.
By the way, guys, we can bring up the call screen.
I do want to go to calls.
Community will lose access to terraced hunting, fishing, and hiking land.
False.
Truth.
The land with high recreation or conservation values are off-limit.
The bill protects public access and wildlife values and any evaluation.
The claim the bill forces sales far from towns and infrastructure.
They say disposal is limited to lands near existing population centers and only after confirming suitability for housing.
This will allow companies like BlackRock to purchase all the land.
False.
Truth, this bill stipulates that no individual or entity may purchase more than two tracts of land in any sale.
Bottom line, it keeps protected lands off limits, unlocks underutilized lands for homes.
We don't want the homes.
We don't want the homes.
We want the land.
Is this hard for anybody?
I put a tweet out about this like a month ago or so.
Right?
We have a collapsing birth rate.
We are not at replacement level population in America.
Which should mean that we're shrinking.
should mean our population is contracting somehow simultaneously We are building so many homes in this country that the springs are running dry in places like Texas.
And yeah, you can see it with your own eyes.
Places like Jacob's Well, where like years ago, you used to be like a geyser.
You used to be like, you know, flowing with water.
Or you drive around the periphery of Austin and you just see these gigantic tracks, endless, as far as the eye can see, of the same cookie-cutter homes being built by the tens of thousands.
And our population is shrinking.
How does this make any sense?
When you really think about that, become an extremist.
When you really think about what all of that entails.
Our native population is contracting and shrinking and not at replacement levels, and yet we are expanding and building so much that our springs are running dry.
What does that mean?
Why are we doing that?
And of course it all goes back to the Ponzi scheme of the Federal Reserve itself and the Social Security Network on top of that, predicated on and requiring infinite growth.
While they simultaneously poison us and psyop us into not having children.
Because the plan always was to lower the population natively, force the importation of millions upon millions of foreigners.
And eventually those foreigners will be deracinated and, you know, poisoned and incorporated into the death cult of Western society.
Plasticized, corporatized.
Stripped of all of their traditions and history.
And then those populations themselves will succumb to low birth rates and inevitable extinction.
So they'll be replaced by more people from the third world where the birth rates are kept extremely high.
And it's just a cycle, a washing cycle of humanity so that no single population or group can ever Instead, just are treated like individual atomized economic units in this ever-expanding corporate monstrosity we call modern America.
It really is pathetic and bad.
It's just bad, in my opinion.
We don't need more housing.
We need less people in our country.
Let's go to your calls now.
Let's go to Climb BMX in Vancouver Island.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, thanks for taking my call.
Before I get to flag-burning, I'd like to order a Lennon latte.
That'll keep me warm and gulag.
And a Stalin spritzer with a drop of Ultra 12 with extra grenadine.
But flag-burning.
Look, he can spit on a flag, rip a flag, drag a flag, tinkle on it, stab it, tear it.
Very distasteful.
But premeditated arson is arson.
If you want to burn a flag, that's arson.
It doesn't matter whether it's private property or a cardboard box.
And where I live, arson is treated pretty harshly.
I'll leave you with that.
harrison smith
Yeah, I mean, it's not arson if it's your material.
I mean, I can buy firewood and burn it, right?
I'm not committing arson.
I can buy a flag and burn it.
That's an arson.
I can't remember who, it may have been Jordan Peterson or somebody, but I just saw a clip that has stuck me where he's like, I love when people burn, like the American flag is the only flag that gets more powerful when you burn it.
Because when you burn it, you're only showing how powerful it is, that we have You know, this country that can withstand even the most, you know, egregious insults to it, like burning a flag, because our power is free speech, and that is an aspect of free speech.
So, I don't know.
But, you know, then you've got people like Enrique Tarrio who's sent to prison for burning a Black Lives Matter flag.
Or you've got people, you know, charged with hate crimes for burning LGBT flags.
So I think if you're going to have crimes for burning flags, then...
unidentified
That's exactly my point, is you can deface a flag, and again, I think it's distasteful to spit on a flag or drag a flag or whatever you want, but to actually burn something, even a cardboard box in public, that's premeditated arson.
But the punishment should fit the harm.
Is my point.
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And I'll let you go.
Thanks very much.
harrison smith
Thank you, Climb BMX.
Good call.
Let's go to Owl Killer in Virginia.
I don't endorse that name, Owl Killer, unless you're a killer.
Are you a killer of owls or are you a killer owl?
owl killer in virginia
Well, let's think about who's got a big owl that we don't like too much.
harrison smith
Oh, you're going after one particular owl.
All right.
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Let's just let that resonate.
Come on, man.
I've been calling in for 20 years.
This whole thing with Israel, I really was thinking about it over the last few days.
And one thing I noticed is, and they're aware of it, we know that Benjamin Netanyahu is in a lot of trouble criminally in his own country for corruption.
The other thing is across the board, and they see it in the universities, right?
So the universities are – like they see the – So they're going for broke now.
Unfortunately, I can't stand the mullahs either.
Look, I did 20 years in the military.
That's a horrendous government.
I would never want to live under them.
But we see that we're seeing with Israel that this is...
And they're really showing their hand now.
Something that's really big.
harrison smith
Well, hold on.
Stay there, Alkiller.
We'll come back to you on the other side.
We've got a quick commercial break.
We'll be right back.
I'm going to finish up with Alkiller, and then I've got a good clip from Ian Carroll explaining what Alkiller is talking about, about Netanyahu facing legal trouble and how that may be, at least in part, responsible for the current war.
unidentified
All right, welcome back, folks.
harrison smith
We have Alkiller from Virginia.
Finish up your thoughts, if you will, and then we'll talk about Netanyahu.
owl killer in virginia
Well, yeah, look, I grew up on the Northeast.
I've lived with many Jewish people.
They're great people.
Unfortunately, there is a rise in anti-Semitism, and Alex alluded to it the other day, where because of calling everybody an anti-Semite, people are just wearing it as armor now, and it's having unintended consequences.
So, you saw Ted Cruz talking with Tucker Carlson the other day, and he brings up the—he heard in Sunday school that whoever blesses Israel, God will bless.
Whoever curses them, God will curse.
Right.
That is a complete bastardization of Scripture.
It doesn't even say Israel.
It's Genesis 12, 13. Now, this goes—me being in the military, I've lived in Europe, I've lived in the Middle East.
I used to be an evangelical Christian.
Now I am an Orthodox Christian.
The rapture and all this Third Temple stuff, Alex was talking about that there's going to be a Third Temple.
There is no Third Temple.
That's coming from Daniel, where it's saying that the Messiah will be cut off before this Second Temple is destroyed.
And unfortunately, the Jews missed the Messiah, and that's why they need the Third Temple.
But they've wrapped up this evangelical Zionism into, when you really think about the craziness of it, That they literally want to build a third temple so the Antichrist can declare himself God in there and basically have the Battle of Armageddon.
As an Orthodox Christian, even Catholic, that was never taught.
So it's a unique thing to Americans.
This idea doesn't exist outside.
I think our country is being—if you think Ted Cruz is the only guy in the Senate or in Congress that believes that because the Bible says, Nation-state, the secular state of Israel.
It doesn't even say the word Israel.
God is talking to Abram before his name is even Abraham.
So, when you think about some of the chaos that has ensued because of misinterpretation of Scripture, it really, like, we really need to reevaluate ourselves that we're making foreign policy off of somebody's opinion of what a Bible verse says.
The other thing is, look, I think Trump is holding off with the, it could have been a bluff, right?
But I think he's holding off with the bunker buster thing because if it does not work, we're going to look like a laughing stock.
And then what do you do at that point?
joshua in georgia
Right.
owl killer in virginia
You know, what do you do if the bunker buster doesn't work?
You've got to keep going up.
You've got to keep stepping it up.
Now, I do think this has been planned for a long time.
And the reason I say that is you saw in 2014 with the whole Assad thing and the original coup in Ukraine.
It would heat up in Ukraine.
Then that would cool off for a little bit.
It would go right to Syria.
Ukraine, Syria.
Ukraine, Syria.
And what that was, because that was Russia's two warm water ports.
We were making them defend both sides.
And that's why Assad really fell, because Russia could not provide the support.
Now, yeah, granted, they did take out Hezbollah.
that was providing them support.
But the reason that Assad really fell was because Russia...
There are 90 million Iranians.
There are 10 million Israelis.
The Russians are 150 million, depending on where you look, 144, 150 million.
There's about 40 million Ukrainians.
You can't 3D print people.
It just is what it is.
If one-tenth of Iran wants to defend the government, that's more people than Israel has in their entire population.
The math just doesn't work out.
harrison smith
No, you're exactly right.
And, of course, the point you made earlier on was exactly right about the fact that, you know, Israel is rapidly losing, like, people are losing patience with Israel.
They're losing support in America at an incredibly rapid rate.
They recognize this.
They talk about this.
They say, like, you know, the next generation is a lot less friendly to Israel than this one is.
So, you know, they understand that, you know, the blank check from America can't last forever.
And this is what I've been saying.
For a year probably at this point, it's like, yeah, they've got to go after Iran now because that's the gamble.
And that's why I keep calling it a gamble because they went all in on this, right?
They put their worldwide reputation on the table.
If they can win the game and get Iran, then they're good.
Then they'll think it's worth it because they aren't going to need America as much after that.
owl killer in virginia
Not only that, though, the big thing is that Russia really can't provide—Russia is getting stuff from Iran.
Now, look, here's the deal.
What you're seeing in Ukraine is what we thought warfare was.
It's basically an experiment field where you're seeing the drones.
I've seen horrific stuff on both sides where you've got— Two or three guys in a trench and a Terminator drone flies over you and just drops a bomb on you.
I mean, that's terrifying stuff to watch.
harrison smith
It's horrifying, yeah.
owl killer in virginia
War has changed big time.
And Ukraine cannot beat Russia, but I did not think they were going to last three or four years the way that they have.
And I think there's propaganda on both sides.
Ukraine will never beat Russia long term, but they're just just this continuous grind.
And you see Russia still advancing inside Ukraine.
You know, it really surprised me that they did not use their air support the way they took out ISIS in Syria.
harrison smith
And the American politicians said, like, we'd rather, you know, have Russia waste their resources and lives in Ukraine.
So, I mean, prolonging the conflict, making it as murderous as possible, I mean, all of that is – I think that much, you know, is pretty obvious.
Same thing with Syria.
I mean, they are gearing up for a third world war and have been for a while.
I think there's no doubt in that.
I do want to get to other callers.
Thank you very much, Al Killer.
Very informative call.
And I do want to play now a video from Ian Carroll, clip number six.
This is when he was hosting.
Candace Owens' show, but he goes into the Netanyahu criminal aspect of this.
And how much of this plays into the timing, I'm not really sure.
I tend to think of anybody in public like this, Netanyahu or even Trump.
They have a certain amount of power, but a lot of this stuff is being dictated from powers greater than them.
So, you know, I don't know how much Benjamin Netanyahu is taking his entire, you know, part of the world to war to save his own butt, but it's certainly a contributing factor.
Let's go to clip number six now.
ian carroll
Bibi decided that given the choice between facing his charges and probably going to prison or taking Israel down a genocidal, racist, and supremacist path, he chose the latter.
He chose to go to any length to retake power and escape prison.
Now meet Itamar Ben-Gavir and Bezalel Smotrich, two of the most prominent and clear examples of the path that Netanyahu has taken his country down.
Both live in illegal Israeli settlements on stolen land in the West Bank.
Both have participated in and support Jewish terrorism in the past.
They represent the most fervent, fascist, religious extremism of the Israeli right wing.
They represent the beliefs of many Jewish supremacists in Israel that the Palestinian people should be eliminated and ethnically cleansed at any cost, that they are goyim and not deserving of the same rights as Jews.
And now, they have a stranglehold over Benjamin Netanyahu, even if he wanted out of the toxic relationship, which there's not necessarily indication that he does, but because they represent the right-wing coalition that elected him, if Netanyahu doesn't appease them, he will almost surely lose his position.
And maybe be locked up.
Smotrich not only lives in an illegal Israeli settlement in the West Bank, but he actually lives outside of its borders as an active expansion of that settlement, which is a great metaphor for his political and religious perspective.
Ben Gavir was also a member of the Koch party, based on Kahanism.
And the Koch party was actually outlawed in Israel, and the U.S. State Department designated it a foreign terrorist organization.
It's based on the theology of Mer Kahane, who founded the Jewish Defense League, which was a Jewish terrorist organization operating in the U.S. and Canada to, quote, protect Jews from anti-Semitism by whatever means necessary.
Those means included bombing Arab and Soviet properties in the United States and assassinating a number of people they deemed to be enemies of the Jewish people.
For anyone curious, there's a whole rabbit hole of how the JDL was involved in the murder of Tupac and extortion of several rap artists, including Tupac and Easy E. There was an FBI investigation that fell flat and a whole bunch of Jewish mobster stuff tied in.
That is a wild story to dig into, but anyways.
Netanyahu, allies with Smotrich and Ben Gavir, wins the election in December of 2022.
And then in the first week, they begin to undermine the power of the Supreme Court in Israel.
harrison smith
And of course, you know, the timing of this where Netanyahu is actually testifying in his case and he gets sick halfway through his testimony and has to leave.
And then they attack Iran, I believe, that day or the next day.
Like it's pretty telling that, you know, the corruption trial has to be interrupted so that the person on trial can start a war with a major enemy they've been trying to start a war with for 40 years.
A little convenient timing, if you ask me.
So there's at least something there.
Let's go to Doug in Wichita, and we'll try to get to as many calls as possible, kind of speed up the process here.
Doug in Wichita, if we can keep our comments as short as possible, go ahead.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Yes, I was kind of confused about...
If you read the parable of the wicked husband man, he lays out what Israel did with all his prophets and everybody that come to Israel to correct them.
But anyway, if you read verse 43, it says that God...
He took all their blessings away, and he gave it to the people of the world that want to follow him and his word and produce fruits of the Spirit.
harrison smith
That's my interpretation as well.
And, I mean, even in the Old Testament, I mean, that's like, we had that Israeli guy call the other day, and he's like, Israel will never be defeated because we're God's chosen people, and that's just, you know, it's our land.
unidentified
Yeah, that was taken away when Christ came.
harrison smith
Well, it was taken away when Christ came, but it also, right, I mean, it was taken away from him by the Romans.
Before then, it was taken away from him by the Babylonians.
It was taken away from him by the Egyptians, right?
unidentified
I remember way back, way back when Israel was crying to have a government.
They was under God.
They was following God, and they cried because they were scared of God and his power.
And they begged for a government, and he explained to them what they're going to get with a government if they go that way.
And they decided they wanted to go that way.
harrison smith
Yeah, exactly.
I don't even give any credence really to the arguments from the Bible about Israel, but even if you're going off that, it's pretty clear in the Bible God pretty routinely says, This is not really that complicated.
Somebody I saw on Exit had a great question where they said, can anybody here seriously tell me that America has been blessed since we started fully funding and backing Israel in the 1960s?
I mean, when you see what America has become versus where it was in 1960, can anybody say that America has been blessed?
It's like, you would think that being blessed would look a little bit different than the way it actually does.
Thank you for the call, Doug.
Let's go to Joshua in Georgia, talking about a repeat of 1990 when it comes to the Middle East, I suppose.
Go ahead, Josh, you're on the air.
Joshua?
joshua in georgia
Good morning, Ed.
Good morning, Emperor Smith.
First of all, I bought some merch, you know, some supplements in your name the other day.
Thank you, Patriot.
I want to ask you for your commish to buy the crew a bag full of Chick-fil-A chicken biscuits one morning.
harrison smith
All right.
joshua in georgia
Number two, the Kobayashi Maru was won by Kirk because he changed the program.
He cheated because he didn't believe in an unwinnable situation.
Number three, now the point.
That was from yesterday, though.
harrison smith
Yep, yep.
joshua in georgia
Anyway, so in 1990, you know, Soviet Union fell, America wanted to show the world what we got, so we showed them the 26-year-old cell technology.
We showed them bunker busters.
We showed them guided, you know, smart bombs, smart missiles.
harrison smith
Right.
joshua in georgia
That was really old technology we showed them, and everybody's now chirping about the bunker buster.
Which we first unleashed in 1990.
I wonder if Trump's—I don't think he's contemplating whether or not the Bunker Busters will do the job, but, you know, you've seen throughout the last couple months, you know, even people in the administration coming out and saying, man, we got stuff that'll make space-time irrelevant.
We got Star Wars stuff.
We got Star Trek stuff.
I wonder if he's contemplating going, you know what, Russia and China are getting stupid and they're sable rattling with, oh, China's got a brand new carrier.
Well, let's just go ahead and show the world through Iran like we did through Iraq in the first Gulf War what we actually got.
And I'm talking about not even now stuff, but maybe one or two or maybe three generations prior of skunk work stuff.
And that's the whole deal.
We do got it.
You know, everybody's talking about bunker busters.
The bunker buster isn't the big dog right now.
It's probably obsolete, you know?
harrison smith
Yeah, you know, there's probably something to that.
There's a lot of tech that, you know, we know they have that they've never yet unleashed.
I mean, even now, some of the, you know, the iron beam laser technology is being deployed.
But yeah, you're right.
I mean, the stealth bomber I think we had since like the 1950s, but was...
So, you know, America has the ability to keep its technology secret for decades on end, and you've got to wonder, you know, what we've developed since then.
I guess we'll wait and see, but we do have some breaking news.
Thank you very much for the call, Joshua.
Breaking news here just brought in to me.
Senior Iranian official says Tehran is open to talks on lifting uranium enrichment, limiting uranium enrichment, that is.
A senior Iranian official has signaled that Tehran is, quote, prepared to discuss limits on uranium enrichment.
Although it firmly rejects any demand for total cessation, a zero-enrichment policy is not on the table.
This shift follows weeks of intensifying conflict.
Israel has launched airstrikes at Iran's nuclear and military facilities.
It can be recalled that President Trump has proposed zero uranium enrichment to Iran through a United States special envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, according to Trump campaign spokesman Caroline Leavitt.
A senior Iranian official has told Reuters that Iran is prepared to discuss limits on uranium enrichment program, but made clear the demands for zero enrichment are off the table.
So this seems like it's not what Trump was demanding, but it is a step back for Iran.
Trump was saying total surrender, whatever that means.
European foreign ministers representing the UK, France, Germany, and the EU's foreign policy chief have reconvened in Geneva with Iranian foreign minister Abbas Aragchi, pressing for renewed nuclear diplomacy.
According to the Wall Street Journal, just hours before a critical diplomatic meeting with Iranian foreign minister, top European officials have aligned with the United States in calling on Tehran to fully end its uranium enrichment program.
So it does look like they're trying to still settle this diplomatically.
Which would be great.
Which would be great to see.
And it looks like Iran is not exactly feeling desperate in how they want to end this thing.
And maybe this would be a good time to read some of the statements from the chiefs of Iran.
Now, I should mention this.
Seymour Hersh, who has been shockingly accurate for decades.
It's like suspicious how good his sources are, but he has reported that an American bombing campaign is going to start this weekend.
He says, this is a report on what is most likely to happen in Iran as early as this weekend.
According to Israeli insiders and American officials I've relied upon for decades, it will entail heavy American bombing.
Says, I've vetted this report with longtime U.S. officials in Washington who told me it will be under control if Iran's Supreme Leader al-Khamenei departs.
Just how that might happen, short of his assassination, is not known.
There's been a great deal of talk about American firepower and targets inside Iran, but little practical thinking, as far as I can tell, about how to remove a revered religious leader with an enormous following.
He says, I've been told that the White House has signed off on an all-out bombing campaign in Iran, but the ultimate targets, the centrifuges buried at at least 80 meters below the surface at Fordow, will, as of this writing, not be struck until the weekend.
The delay has come at Trump's insistence because the president wants the shock of the bombing to be diminished as much as possible by the opening of Wall Street trading on Monday.
He goes on to say the Iranian police stations will be struck.
Government offices that house files on suspected dissenters in Iran will be attacked.
And they are trying to create a color revolution style uprising, taking out the Iranian regime.
But finally, he says, bringing back the Shah's son, now living in exile near Washington, has never been considered by American and Israeli planners, I was told.
But there has been talk among the White House planning group that includes J.D. Vance of installing a moderate religious leader to run the country if Khomeini is deposed.
The Israelis bitterly objected to the idea, quote, they don't give a crap on the religious issue but demand a political puppet to control, the longtime U.S. official said.
Reminding me of the calls about Ukraine.
From Victoria Nuland as America apparently dictates to foreign countries who's their leader.
This is sort of the point of all of it.
Is everybody arguing like, well we can defeat Iran or trust Trump, whatever, whatever.
It's like, do you not understand the fundamental point that America has no right to dictate to another country who their leaders are?
And just because we don't like their leaders does not give us a right to usurp or supplant them at will because we wouldn't want that happening to you and you're only going to create millions upon millions of generational enemies to your country by usurping their power in their own country.
It's just this is just wrong in a million different ways and I'm sick of America acting like we have the right just because we apparently have the ability To remove unwanted leaders of other countries and put actual puppets in their place.
It's the whole reason that we're in the mess in Ukraine right now is because we did this once already and it creates innumerable problems, some that are intended, some that aren't, but all of them that benefit the bad guys and hurt Americans.
So it's just sort of sickening to me to see so flippantly like, well, maybe we'll put in a religious moderate, you know, a religious leader.
Israel's like, actually, we really need them, you know, solid on the political actor, you know, and they just have like dossiers of all their operatives in Iran.
Like, who should we place on the throne of Iran?
It's like, how about you F off back home and Iran can do what Iran wants because they're not us.
Anyway, let's go out to your one more call for the end of the break.
Sean in California wants to talk about abuses that will come from this conflict.
Go ahead, Sean, you're on the air.
sean in california
Yes, Harrison.
Check it out.
Israel's like an abusive spouse.
It's all tiny.
And America, of course, is like the bigger spouse.
Imagine if North Korea was doing this stuff to China.
Rabbi Shmuley, for example, stated to Alex yesterday that, oh, it would be great if they could get the Bunker Busters and the B-2 stealth bomber.
You just know that they would start – And I know Trump loves the weapons sales, so that kind of has me worried in the back of my head.
And then the other abuse relates to the topic of the land you were talking about in that – We destabilize another country.
We're going to have more migrants from the Middle East than the United States.
They're not going to import them to anywhere else.
It'll be either to Europe or to the United States.
And I can tell you right now, there's plenty of Sunni, Syrians, and Lebanese and things here in California.
Could you imagine sectarian issues?
If you throw Iranians into California that are Shiite, we'll be popping off out here.
So our little abusive friend over there, And I also wanted to just real fast enlighten you on the land issue.
The U.S. corporation is in involuntary Chapter 11 bankruptcy, which means we are restructuring our assets and selling them off.
And so this may explain why China, Bill Gates, and others are able to buy land for pennies on the dollar and just, you know, Trump may be liquidating a lot of things, which would make sense with what Doge was doing with those cuts.
You've got to get rid of all the toxic assets.
harrison smith
That's certainly what it feels like.
Yeah, certainly what it feels like.
Thank you very much for the call, Sean.
We're going to go to break.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
The third hour of American Journal is on.
We're trying to figure out what the hell is going on with this Middle East conflict.
We're going to be joined by Witt Lyman, Border Hawk, White House correspondent in just a few minutes.
But I want to spend this first five-minute segment of the hour going to a few more phone calls in the order that we receive them.
And Joel in Georgia is on the air.
Go ahead, Joel.
You're live.
joshua in georgia
I'm a first-time caller.
Just been wanting to express how frustrated I am with seeing some of these people that I've been following InfoWars for a long time.
And like Laura Loomer, I think I was first introduced to her through you guys, seeing her on y 'all's show and doing work with other people that work with you guys.
And it's just disgusting to see how manipulative and controlling, you know, it feels almost like a manipulation.
When she's accusing the people that have supported her work over many, many years and then backstabbing them and accusing them of being anti-Trumpers for questioning certain things and having concerns.
It's just ridiculous.
harrison smith
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, she's the one that's gone really hard.
Obviously, there are other people that weren't as MAGA-centric as her, like Mark Levin, who was sort of a never-Trumper in 2016.
This is from what Daily Beast Loomer threatens to snitch on conservatives criticizing Trump in raging MAGA civil war.
Yeah, and this is the talking point from the likes of like Cat Turd 2 where they're like, you've turned on Trump, you backstabbed Trump.
And it's just like, no, we never wanted this.
Trump is making a mistake and we're letting him know because MAGA is not in fact a cult.
But then they change their tactic.
You know, Laura Loomer's arguing with the Hodge twins.
She's like, I don't like seeing my president attacked.
The Hodge twins are like, who attacked Trump?
We're anti-war.
Why is that an attack?
And she says, you lied about his policy.
He never said he's going to war.
You knew that and spread lies.
And it's like, he definitely, what do you mean he said he didn't, you know, he's talking about getting involved.
He's talking about, like, he's the one saying that we're getting involved.
So it's just bizarre that it's Trump going, we're going to go to war.
It's Maggie going, we shouldn't.
And then it's people like Laura Loomer going, stop lying about us going to war.
It's like, we're responding to what Trump said.
And it's not even speculative because the attack that first launched this whole conflict, Israel's attack, first Marco Rubio comes out and says this was unilateral, America had nothing to do with it, and we're like, okay, good.
But then Trump came out and was like, actually, this was my decision.
And I gave him the green light.
And it was my deadline that, you know, Iran didn't meet.
Okay, then he's taking credit for it, then we're going to criticize it.
MAGA insider who took revenge now requests evidence of any GOP blank-talking Trump.
Yeah, we're not a cult.
I don't know if you fell for the leftist lie that Trump is our king, but we are, in fact, American citizens, and he's the president, betraying his promises that he made on the campaign trail.
So it's one of these issues, Joel, where it's like, okay, how do we deal with this without causing the divide to be greater?
I mean, what's your take on this divide?
joshua in georgia
I haven't really felt completely losing hope in Trump as far as I'm holding out because I feel like maybe he has some kind of strategy.
But you can question things, and you should be able to express those things so Trump can hear them.
You know, that's what people are saying.
And then if you can't, then it's like a group think mentality, almost like a form of mind control on people to discourage them from...
harrison smith
Yep.
joshua in georgia
And, you know, this cat turd guy, he's really got on my nerves.
He was wrong about Joe Rogan, you know, when people were rooting for Joe Rogan to do an interview with Trump.
He was, like, slamming Joe Rogan, and he was wrong about that.
unidentified
I feel it almost feels like a tie off.
harrison smith
Well, and look, and I completely agree.
And, you know, my point the whole time is that none of these people ever said, hey, trust Trump.
He's going to keep us out of war.
They all said war with Iran is good.
Like Laura Loomer is not saying, hey, you guys are backstabbing Trump.
None of these people were ever saying, hey, trust Trump.
So they're going to come out and go, see, we told you.
We told you you should trust Trump.
But they never said trust Trump to keep us in peace.
They said, let's go to war because Trump wants to go to war.
And we're anti-war.
And we'll be proven right at the end of the day.
So they're just being dumb, honestly.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Third hour of American Journal is on, and I'm joined now live by Wyd Lyman.
He, of course, is the senior border hawk White House correspondent.
You can follow him on X at Wyd underscore Lyman.
That's at W-I-D underscore L-Y-M-A-N, and I suggest you do.
How are you doing, Wyd?
Thanks for coming on.
wid lyman
Harrison, great to be back with you.
Welcome back to the White House.
We have one of President Trump's new flags just behind me over here.
The story is that Barron Trump hung it without needing a ladder at all.
He just kind of placed it with his hands.
No footage, no footage, but it did happen.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah, that's great.
Barron Trump bending over to hang the flag on the flagpole.
It looks beautiful there.
Incredibly nice.
What is the atmosphere like in D.C.?
Because the sense I'm getting is that...
What is the atmosphere like there?
wid lyman
Well, President Trump is meeting with his Security Council right now, and we're assuming it's about the Middle Eastern conflict.
The Israel-Iran war has dominated most of the conversations at the press briefing yesterday.
It was 80% of the conversations, as you know, or the questions, excuse me.
And President Trump says he'll make his decision in two weeks about whether to go.
What exactly that means, we don't necessarily know either.
There's a lot of secrecy coming out of the administration right now.
It's very close as far as what's happening, what decisions are being made.
But the mood is more tense here than usual, I would say, with the impending conflict and with a lot of people here being concerned about the conflict itself.
harrison smith
And are you feeling there in D.C. and in the White House, the sort of MAGA divide that we're seeing online with...
Are you feeling that in D.C. or is it more on one side or more on the other?
wid lyman
Most of the establishment here is going to be against the administration in one form or another.
So they're going to be anti-whatever President Trump decides to do.
And I would say the bulk of right-wing media, moderate media, is going to be pro-Israel.
So I don't think that you're seeing as much of the divide as you're seeing play out on X, for instance.
What is this story?
And whether they have all their motives or not, you know, it's yet to be seen.
But as you pointed out in the first hour or so of your show, just kind of laying out some additional information and groundwork about what's happening.
But that divide is not reached here, I would say.
I would say most of it is either just anti-administration generally or people who are very pro-Israel, pro-helping them, whatever that looks like.
harrison smith
And, I mean, obviously, you know, it's got to be a flurry of activity.
I'm sure people are coming and going to the White House constantly.
I mean, have you noticed the increase, or does it seem like business as usual at the White House?
wid lyman
It's busier.
There's more franticness going on, I would say.
But in general, this place is pretty constant to and from.
The thing that is different, though, is when President Trump is doing an event like placing You're seeing a lot of people yelling questions, wanting information.
How involved is the United States right now?
What are we doing?
What's the situation?
Because a lot of people, I think, want information because there's so much coming out of either side that it's hard to know what it is.
I mean, you look at Trey Yings from Fox, and he's constantly having to either disprove or approve of a story being on the ground.
And Iran's probably not going to tell us the truth either.
So it's very difficult, I think, and people want information.
harrison smith
Yeah, and it seems like the Trump administration is using that to their benefit.
And basically every headline I see that's leaking, and it's mostly Axios, and there's sort of rumors flying around about who it is that's leaking and whether they're leaking with permission from the administration because it's strategic leaks or whether there's a mole inside.
But I wonder, you know, how do you think the Trump administration is strategically leaking?
Are they using...
It seems like they're, you know, maybe trying to pressure Iran by leaking, okay, we're attacking tomorrow, but then it never comes.
I just, I wonder, how do, what's your advice for how we know what's real, what's not, when it comes to leaks about this conflict from the Trump administration?
wid lyman
You know, do your best to read all the information, and I think that that's what the beauty of shows like this is, and other shows at Infowars is going to give you.
A lot of different perspectives, a lot of different opinions, and you guys are spending so much time trying to disseminate all this information.
But the administration is being deliberately vague, I think, and it behooves them to do that because if they make a strong decision, you have conflicting information going either way.
Because what we're seeing is de-escalation tactics in a sense, what you see at some of the protests, say at LA or here in Washington.
The authorities have to be careful because if they meet...
But they also have to appear that they're defending their greatest allies.
So we have to be careful, I think, going forwards, what information comes out and when.
But, you know, looking at all of it, it's really tough, I have to say.
And this conflict especially because there's so many bits and pieces and videos.
And just browsing X is tough too because now we're in the AI age where...
Is this a real video?
Is this a real person?
It's getting harder and harder, I think, for everyone, especially the general population, to get good information.
harrison smith
Yeah, I'm having that trouble myself, actually.
I got videos that I'm afraid to show because I got no way to confirm or deny whether or not it's true.
Obviously, BorderHawk focuses primarily on border issues and immigration.
Seems like that's still continuing at a pace.
We're still getting, you know, headlines.
Border Patrol shuts down 3,000-foot drug smuggling tunnel.
Illegal immigrant population fell by 1 million in the first five months of Trump's term.
That is a great number.
I mean, those are the types of numbers that we want to see, which means that not only the deportations are being effective, but they're, you know, causing self-deportation as well since a million is way higher than the number of people that have actually been deported.
It means a lot of people are leaving on their own accord.
Has that all sort of fallen to the wayside under the threat of Iran, or is that still a major part of discussion around the White House?
wid lyman
It's in the top five, top three discussions for sure, and we're doing our best to really drive home the point of what's happening here on U.S. soil.
Or at our adjacent neighbor in Mexico, you know, what's the cartel activity?
What's the administration doing about the situation down there?
The ice news comes and goes, though, so quickly as far as what they're doing.
And we saw the story out of Dodger Stadium where they were supposedly – And they're opening new detention centers in Michigan and Florida.
So I think that there's quite a bit going on there.
But, you know, the Iranian-Israeli war is certainly dominating the scene.
I mean, it's certainly more spectacular in some ways to see some missiles and to see more Middle Eastern crisis.
But also you have to look at what the media is telling, too.
You know, a lot of the stories have events.
They have a purpose.
They have propaganda they want to produce.
So possibly this whole situation is helping the administration, right?
We saw some of the posts, and I know you saw these, too, but, you know, war in the Middle East, and we quietly have the greatest mass deportation that mankind's ever known.
So there's a bit of messaging going on across the board.
We're doing our best to keep up.
There's plenty every single day that's happening on that front.
harrison smith
Yeah, I'm wondering if you have any insight into this DHS at Dodgers Stadium.
Kerfuffle, because the story from the post-millennial breaking update, DHS debunks L.A. Dodgers' claim Ice conducted workplace raid at stadiums.
So the L.A. Dodgers came out and said, Ice tried to get entranced into our stadium, and we stopped them.
They said this morning, Ice agents came to Dodger Stadium and requested permission to access the parking lot.
So they were denied entry to the grounds by the organization.
Tonight's game will be played as scheduled.
And then in response to that, the DHS said, yeah, we were not.
Doing that, actually, this had nothing to do with the Dodgers.
CBP vehicles were in the stadium parking lot very briefly, unrelated to any operation or enforcement.
So is this, I guess this is the Dodgers, like, virtue signaling for some reason, trying to, I don't know, align themselves with the illegal aliens.
What's the truth here?
Do you have any idea?
wid lyman
I would say that it's a combination of the two things.
I would say that Border Patrol ice tried to stage and then go off on their rave.
They're going to a Home Depot at the time, and Dodger Stadium probably didn't want them there at all.
And for the record, I'm totally fine if they're there, if they want to go to any of these sporting events and start questioning people.
There was discussion.
There's a lot of soccer games being played in the United States.
I don't follow soccer, but there's a lot going on right now.
And there was some talk of, let's put ice agents outside of these soccer stadiums and start questioning people.
The truth is probably in the middle of those two stories.
I don't see DHS going into the stadium, though, and trying to corral people left and right.
I don't see that happening at all.
I can likely see them staging, though, because they have so many vehicles and need to go to wherever their next destination is.
But again, for the record, it's a great idea.
So maybe the Dodgers are outing themselves by accident.
harrison smith
Yeah, right.
And actually, we saw a video.
I believe it was in Atlanta.
It was a soccer stadium in Atlanta.
And it said apparently DHS said they were going to be, you know, Looking for people there, and the stadium is basically empty.
Now, I don't know whether that's because it's a soccer game in America and nobody cares, or whether it's, you know, really the fact that that stadium would be full except there are no illegal aliens.
And, in fact, I have another video.
Like, videos have been coming out.
And, again, I don't know how much, like, credence to put on these.
We can play it as B-roll.
Clip number 20. Because Los Angeles residents are reporting that the emergency rooms are totally empty.
People are scared of being picked up at emergency rooms.
And so the emergency rooms are empty.
Personally, I'm not complaining about empty emergency rooms.
I think if you go to the emergency room and you're first in line, that's a good thing.
So it's funny.
People are posting this stuff going, oh my gosh, nobody's in the emergency room.
I'm sitting here going, yeah, good.
That's how it should be.
I mean, what do you make of these videos?
Is this really the level of deportations that are happening?
It's parts of the country just emptying out.
Is that really where we're at?
wid lyman
It's probably the level of fear.
And it could also be, you know, poor messaging at the same time.
Like, is that specific hospital not have anybody there because there's no illegal immigrants?
I don't know.
But that story is real.
That description is real.
We've covered a lot of the hospitals along the border that are totally inundated, flooded, slash closed with people seeking health care in the United States.
It's one reason why they come here, Harrison.
And I don't blame them.
We have a pretty good health care system compared to some of these other places.
So the story itself represents truth, in my opinion, but it may not be exactly true in that exact video.
But if you're an illegal immigrant, you come to the United States and you have a medical issue of some variety, you're going to an emergency room.
You're not going to be visiting Dr. So-and-so right down the street, your primary, who takes health insurance.
So to me, that story is not shocking.
And we attended an anti-ICE protest here just in North D.C. And a bunch of the immigrant communities came out and said, please don't have this protest because it's in the heart of where we live.
And we're not going to come to this because ICE might show up and start detaining people, which they have done before, especially in California.
So there's no doubt that they're laying lower, so to speak, for fear of deportation, which I think is why.
Some of it is designed to say, hey, like, you know, the game's up.
We're going to keep doing this.
harrison smith
Yeah.
And that's what it needs to be because, again, the self-deportation is the much more preferable process.
We'd rather them just go home than have to go, you know, drag them away.
And I'm glad that the Trump administration seems to be working more and more towards facilitating self-deportation, turning the CBP app.
CBP1 app into basically a way that you can sign up for flights home.
I mean, I suggested it almost as a joke, like this would be the ideal situation, but they're actually doing it, and it just makes perfect sense.
And, you know, you're right about the emergency room, you know, aspect of this, because just taking it at face value, they're showing an empty emergency room.
They're saying, usually this place is packed.
Well, if you get a head injury or you break your arm, you're going to go to the emergency room, even if you're an illegal alien, right?
I mean, you don't really have a choice.
That means that typically if this room is full, it's full of people with colds or with, you know, minor abrasions that they go to the ER because you might as well because it's free for them.
So it just goes to show sort of how much they're taking advantage of us and how, you know, it's really unacceptable.
That American people are being forced to wait hours for actual critical injuries at NERs because the ERs are filled with illegal aliens taking up resources.
I feel like we're winning the propaganda war here.
I feel like the more that comes out about illegal immigration, we are finally seeing the true scale of it.
I mean, we must have 100 million illegal aliens in this country, right?
When you see entire swaths of cities empty because they think ICE raids are coming, If you're not illegal, you're not hiding from ICE.
I'm not hiding from ICE, right?
They're not going to deport me.
Do you think that's because of the fear that the Democrats are ginning up about ICE, that even legal immigrants are so scared they're not going out?
Or is that really the level of problem we have with legal immigrants, that there's this many in our country that when ICE is in town, the whole town becomes a ghost town?
wid lyman
Again, it's both.
I think some of the messaging coming out of the Democrat media and Democrats themselves is actually hurting that population when they say that Trump is deporting American citizens.
When they use those, or ISIS kidnapping people, when they say those things, they do elicit fear in their own populations.
There's no question about that.
And you know, Harrison, to your prior point about the infighting, we can be I mean, there's not a lot of people in Mexico trying to get in.
You're looking at just a couple hundred encounters a day at this point.
We can say all of that is super positive and have questions.
It doesn't matter whether or not you're 100% loyal.
Nobody is 100% loyal to anybody, really.
harrison smith
And they shouldn't.
wid lyman
They should ask questions.
They should, you know, drum that up a little bit there.
I think that that's what you're seeing a bit on X as far as, you know, messaging and different things go.
You have to look at people's motives or what they're saying.
But we can certainly applaud the administration for the excellent job they're doing across the board.
And we can say, hey, this is great.
This is step one.
We're a few months in.
Let's do more.
While at the same time saying, hey, the Trump meme coin that you did, let me know about the best idea.
You know, buy a gold bar, become a citizen.
You know, not a huge fan of that one either.
You know, we can do both of those things.
Chew gum and walk at the same time.
harrison smith
Yeah, well, and we can say, hey, good job, you know, shutting the border.
Good job with the deportations.
We want more.
We want more.
Thank you, but more, please.
Another helping, if you will.
And look, I didn't expect it to be $100 million in the first five months.
And I'm kind of doing the math.
In my head, and okay, we're not going to get to 40 million that way, but, you know, it's still a higher number than I think some people were thinking it would be.
Is it high enough for the administration, do you think, or are they still pushing it?
And, well, I'll ask you that question first.
I got another question for you, but, I mean, how do you think the administration is feeling about this, and are there plans to ramp things up in any regard?
wid lyman
For the most part, most of the messaging has been increased to 3,000 arrests, increased mass deportations.
Stephen Miller has been very, very vocal about this going forward because there are millions of people here.
I mean, Congressman Tim Bircher from Tennessee told us there's likely a million illegal immigrants just in Tennessee alone.
So, you know, some of these numbers could be astounding.
The messaging has been that throughout, except for last week.
When President Trump made the comment about not going after hotel and agriculture workers, which they quickly reversed.
So I think for the most part, 90% of the time, they are very consistent.
We want to do this.
We want to continue with this.
We want to increase it.
We need funding for it.
We need more people for it, which is one reason why they're pushing the big, beautiful bill.
There's millions of dollars allocated for ICE and Border Patrol in there, except for a little...
It's been very consistent.
They want more.
The M-O-A-R-R-R-E version, you know, more going forward.
There's no doubt.
harrison smith
Yeah, and what was up with that?
because it was just sort of a weird reversal for Trump to say, actually, you know, hospitals and agriculture.
And it's like, well...
You know, why those in particular?
And then there was the outrage, and they basically backed down less than 24 hours later.
Was that just miscalculation by the Trump administration's part?
Or how do you explain that?
Because, again, it just seems kind of baffling to me why you'd make that statement, then reverse it immediately.
Like, did they not think that through?
What's your take on that, you know, there on the inside, at least seeing the discussions amongst the press room there?
wid lyman
The instance that we got, the feeling that we got was that Secretary Rollins of Agriculture pressured the administration to not go after these people because there are millions of them and they do provide cheap labor for big ag right across the board.
So that was sort of our speculation as to why he made this offhand comment and then DHS sent out the internal memo.
But the pushback was immense from the base, from the millions of people that voted for the administration, probably within DHS itself.
A lot of those agents, they want to do this job.
They signed up to do this, and they want to do it.
And then you saw smaller farms come out, Meriwether Farms down in Wyoming, saying, hey, we pay our American citizens livable wages.
We pay health care.
If you're going to employ these people, it's going to hurt American small businesses.
And you have to hope that within a quick turnaround, they were saying, this is a terrible idea.
Let's not do this.
harrison smith
And that's really encouraging, isn't it?
Because associated with the MAGA divide, I mean, there's a reason why MAGA will so loudly oppose things that Trump does, and it's because it seems like his administration responds.
I mean, this is not a pointless exercise of just, like, impotent rage.
When you and enough people let the Trump administration know we're not happy with what they do, they'll reverse course.
And it's pretty amazing to see.
So, you know, I think there's a big reason why we should be pushing anti-war sentiment.
And apparently Trump met with Steve Bannon yesterday, right before.
You know, announcing that two-week pause before making a decision.
So, I mean, that's really encouraging, isn't it, that the MAGA base can actually correct Trump and the Trump administration as he's operating.
wid lyman
And it's a testimony, too, I think, to organizations like InfoWars and shows like yourself, where you're giving voices to some of these people that may not have We have new media here at the White House that has a chance to ask different questions and posit different things that I think are more in line with the average conservative Republican American voter.
People who are mumbling at their dining room tables going, why would President Trump say that?
And then they turn on And it's like, oh, Harrison's talking about this is great.
Like, this is my thought going forwards.
And then they're in the press room and they hear a good question.
And I think that that's a testimony to both things.
And a testimony to the administration.
They're allowed to make mistakes.
They're allowed to say things, you know, that maybe we don't always agree with completely.
And then reverse it and do the right thing.
They're 100% allowed to do that.
And I totally applaud them for doing it.
harrison smith
I absolutely agree.
Could not agree more.
And I gotta say, this post-millennial, Story made me think of you.
Border Patrol shuts down a 3,000-foot drug-smuggling tunnel connecting U.S. and Mexico.
Do you miss it, Wid?
Do you wish you were there in the tunnels under the Mexican border?
I can't imagine you miss it very much from the heaven-like surroundings we see you in now with the beautiful trees and everything.
But do you wish you were there in the tunnels?
Do you miss the tunnels, Wid?
wid lyman
You know, sometimes I wake up in a cold sweat.
I think it's called PTSD, but, you know, not really miss it, so to speak.
I'm just so happy that we're in a different place as an organization and as a country where we don't have to do things like that and expose them because very few people are, you know.
And again, I applaud the administration for doing that.
But, you know, a little excitement.
You know, you're out there.
And you're in the same setting as the movie Sicario at the same intersection going into Juarez.
And it's like, this is pretty intense.
D.C. is pretty intense, too.
I don't enjoy walking around here at night either, so it's a combination.
This right here is not real.
Nothing else in this area looks anything like this.
harrison smith
Well, I was going to add, usually I've been there, and sometimes it's filthy, and it's covered in homeless people and protesters.
Have there been any protests or demonstrations since the outbreak of the conflict with Iran?
wid lyman
There was one the other night, but they got rained out.
There's a bunch of Iranian flags they were waving.
There's one scheduled for this weekend.
I don't know how big they'll be.
You know, they'll find something else to protest and go on and on about, but it is still the hub, D.C., but I would focus mostly on places like L.A. and Seattle.
They're going to see some juice out there coming up.
harrison smith
I believe it.
WID Lyman, thank you so much for joining us.
As always, follow WID on X at WID underscore Lyman.
And of course, follow BorderHawk.News.
Go to BorderHawk.News and follow BorderHawk.News on X for all of the updates there.
Thank you, WID.
unidentified
Cheers.
wid lyman
God bless.
harrison smith
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With that, I do want to go to some statements from the leadership of Iran.
It's just hard to tell what's true and what's not at this point, since everybody has incentive to lie in both directions.
Some people, you might want to present yourself as strong and in charge, or you might want to present yourself as a victim and we need help, but both of those could be untrue.
It's war by deception, so we're just doing our best to bring you all the angles and try to look at it from a bird's eye view.
We'll do that in just a second, but when I say the Alex Jones movement, when I say the Infowars movement, when I say the effect that we've already had, I don't know if people recognize just how big Alex Jones' impact has been.
So I want to go to a video.
This is from a man named Richard Gage.
From IAI, or AIA rather.
Were you able to pull that video in?
Tucker, AJ?
Okay.
Yeah, let's go to this.
It's a little longer, but it tells the story of the awakening of Tucker Carlson.
And you'll notice there's one particular event that seems to have broken through his mainstream media bubble.
Pierced the veil and sort of lit his way on the path down which he is now traveling.
And it happened to be 9-11, specifically Building 7, a topic that he was introduced to and had his mind blown by Alex Jones.
And if you think about the media landscape today, especially on the right wing or the pseudo-right wing, Which is now really just the mainstream.
The number of people who were first introduced to the ideas they now espouse or first awakened to the truth of our system were all awakened by Alex Jones.
Joe Rogan, the most popular podcaster of all time, certainly currently working.
Of course, goes back to the 90s with Alex Jones or the very early 2000s.
You know, participating in early 9-11 protests and war on terror protests, wearing George W. Bush masks and running around the Texas Capitol.
And now he's interviewing, you know, Donald Trump and helping him get elected and.
You know, serving as the as a.
Well, it's Alex Jones that awakened him to Bohemian Grove and the New World Order and the anti-human agenda and false flags and all these sorts of things.
It's Alex Jones, the Joe Rogan credits.
Well, it's Tucker Carlson is in that list as well.
So I want to go to this video.
It's just a really good compilation of Tucker Carlson's awakening.
And of course, Alex Jones, Alex Jones is like, he's like the Yoda.
He's like the Yoda of American politics right now.
And I don't know how to, I don't know if I can impart to you my feelings about this, but I wish I could because there's just something so like legendary about this that 20 years ago, some guy named Alex Jones that's on AXS TV in Austin and some guy named Joe Rogan that's like he was on some sitcom or something but you know nobody knew who he was.
He wasn't a household name an A-list celebrity and yet you fast forward 20 years and Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan and Glenn Beck and these are the guys who like Alex Jones is to credit for their you know entire path that they traveled down.
But then you look at just everybody else in the MAGA movement, you ask them, like, when did you start thinking about this stuff and talking about this stuff and who really opened your eyes to politics?
And I don't care if you ask Candace Owens or Jack Posobiec or Ian Carroll or Nick Fuentes or any of these people, they will all say, well, you know, Alex Jones, I started listening to Alex Jones in high school.
Well, you know, I was sort of a normie Republican until I listened to Alex Jones.
So it's just, you know.
If we really can pull off this revolution, if we can really change the course of history in a way that saves humanity from this death cult of globalism, Alex Jones is like the Benjamin Franklin of the founding fathers.
Or the John Locke have found out.
The new founding fathers of the new America once we get through this.
Anyway, enough rambling.
I just want to try to emphasize as much as humanly possible the incalculable effect that Alex Jones and his mindset and his worldview and his attack plan has led to the moment where now Donald Trump is president, Tucker Carlson is the number one talking head in the world, and Joe Rogan is the number one podcaster in the world.
Of the Alex Jones war.
Of the Alex Jones campaign to save humanity.
So we're just simultaneously sort of patting ourselves on the back for the incredible victory that we've achieved, but also reemphasizing how much farther we have to go.
Here's a little report on the awakening of Tucker Carlson.
tucker carlson
Alleging not simply a cover-up by the U.S. government, but by the entire American media.
It's totally implausible.
We would report that if that were true.
unidentified
Tucker, not quite entire.
tucker carlson
Tell us one thing to hold on to.
You make these claims or appear to make these claims.
Do you have any evidence that there were bombs in the building?
unidentified
Sure, sure.
Let's start with the collapse of Building 7. Can you roll the video clip that I sent to you?
tucker carlson
Okay, I'm not sure if we can't.
unidentified
Building 7 was not hit by an airplane.
tucker carlson
no one five thousand conveniently And if there's any evidence that the government's behind 9 /11, you know, I'd believe anything if there's evidence, but there isn't any.
So, knock it off.
alex jones
Have you seen Building 7 collapse, the Salomon Brothers building?
tucker carlson
No.
alex jones
I want to show you that right now.
unidentified
Now, here we're going to show you a videotape of the collapse itself.
Now we go to videotape the collapse of this building.
It's amazing.
Amazing, incredible, pick your word, for the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before when a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.
tucker carlson
Was this after the collapse of the other two?
unidentified
Yes, she's saying it's fallen, Building 7....a very familiar New York skyline, a symbol by the mayor, Rudy Giuliani, much earlier today, because of the dreadful collapse of the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center.
The phones are not working properly.
The announced Building 7 fell 25 minutes before it did and then lied and said this wasn't real and then later admitted it.
alex jones
And then we have the up close footage of CNN.
Police saying, get back, they're going to bring it down.
unidentified
Do you hear that?
joshua in georgia
Keep you around that building.
It'll be coming down.
unidentified
The building is about to blow up.
joshua in georgia
Move it back.
Move back here.
All right, guys?
Hey, stop.
unidentified
We are looking back.
There's a building.
alex jones
We're about to blow up.
unidentified
We've got to get away from the tower.
It's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before when What do you think of that?
tucker carlson
You know, I'm not a structural engineer.
I think it's upsetting to watch it.
I remember when that happened.
I mean, look, I have no idea.
I don't know anything.
I mean, I don't understand how buildings collapse.
I don't understand how building seven collapsed.
What actually happened with Building 7?
Like, that is weird, right?
It doesn't, like, what is that?
unidentified
If you were to say something like that on television, they'd flip out.
tucker carlson
They would flip out.
You'd, like, lose your job over that.
Why?
unidentified
Why?
tucker carlson
But it's an entirely fair question.
It is not crazy to ask, how did those buildings collapse in the way they did, particularly the building that was not hit by a plane?
Like, what was that?
And you get to a certain point where you realize people are lying right to your face.
What began to make me wonder, and I have no idea what happened to 9-11, but it's very clear that there's a lot of lying around it, was the collapse of Building 7. And all the wackos would be like, Building 7!
Building 7!
I'd be like, shut up, wackos!
And then if you just sort of look at it, you're like, well, that is very weird, actually.
No plane hit that building in it.
Does this happen a lot when buildings catch fire?
Right, okay.
curt weldon
Besides being a firefighter, I work for the INA, largest insurance company in North America.
I was responsible for training their fire protection arson people for 18 years.
That doesn't happen.
You never have a 47-story building just collapse, which this is.
tucker carlson
By the way, I never questioned anything about 9-11, and I actively attacked people who did.
I'm ashamed of that, but that's a fact.
I did it on tape more than once.
Because my feeling was, well, you know, like, that's divisive, or whatever.
I was a child and an idiot.
Now that you've looked into it and you said you don't have a coherent theory as to what it was, but you've got a lot of questions, which questions trouble you the most?
ron johnson
Well, it starts with Building 7. Yes.
Where you look at that and it just, yeah, I mean, this is really weird.
It does come down just like a building demolition type of project.
Get a documentary of this Alaskan structural engineering professor that does a four-year study on it.
Pretty well debunks NIST's analysis.
Again, you don't have to be a structural engineer to say this really doesn't make sense.
When you start putting together at what temperature steel melts, they had molten steel in the Twin Towers, and I'm not sure they had a number seven.
If one column, one column expanded, went off kilter, and that's what brought the whole thing down, well, it wouldn't come down so symmetrically.
You wouldn't have a free fall.
Why have you been so instrumental in broadening the Overton window on some of these things?
Of course, the Overton window is all about, this is what you can discuss without threat or without risk.
But you got to go beyond that.
tucker carlson
Because I was part of the cover-up and I feel guilty about it.
That's why.
And I'm trying to atone for my previous sense.
That's the real reason.
harrison smith
Again, it's a great video.
That is from Richard Gage.
And I'm stupid.
I just had his account up because I wanted to send you to it.
I believe it is at RichardGage underscore 911.
And that's G-A-G-E.
I want to find it exactly, because I've got to give credit to this guy.
At RichardGage underscore 911 on X. RichardGage spelled G-A-G-E.
It's not about 9-11 necessarily.
and he's got a channel on band.video.
It's about, first of all, you know, congratulating Tucker on having the humility to admit that he was wrong, to change his mind when presented with alternative evidence, to wake up and not just correct his...
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Thank you.
harrison smith
I mean, his interview with Tucker Carlson, he was trying to set up another interview with Randy Fine.
He apparently, you know, called Trump and talked to him after Trump and called him kooky and told him to get a TV station.
So he feels guilty about being a propagandist who helped contribute to the build-up to the war in Iraq.
And he's now working as hard as he can to not make that mistake again, to prevent the next major Middle East war.
So it's about Tucker Carlson having this awakening and having the tenacity to admit he was wrong and work to make up for his past mistakes.
But also, again, just the legendary, like, mythical aspect of the fact that decades ago, Alex Jones served as the spirit guide, as the wise old man in the beginning of the heroic cycle.
You know, leading, showing them a different way, pulling back the curtain and showing them the real world beyond the cave.
And it didn't happen right away.
And they didn't like him right away necessarily.
Tuck Carlson was not very friendly about Alex Jones before they met and before he realized that he was wrong.
But just planting that seed, cracking that hole in the veil has led to these people actually having platforms to change the course of history, to get Donald Trump elected, to stop the war in Iran.
It's the fulfillment of the plan.
Have you been trusting the plan, folks?
The real plan has been the Alex Jones plan all along, the awakening, the info war, the fires of human liberty being kindled in the hearts of the likes of Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan who can go on to spread those fires everywhere.
It's just an amazing accomplishment.
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And sometimes it takes a tragedy, an attack, a false flag, attack like 9-11 to be the catalyst for that.
It's something that you can take and as evil and as despicable and as destructive as it was, even in that destruction, they planted the seed of the awakening that would set things right.
And Alex Jones recognized that and harnessed it and activated it and weaponized it.
Against the New World Order.
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I want to talk a little bit about the hints that I'm seeing that Israel does not have things in hand.
that they are not quite as confident as they may present themselves.
From Dominique Michael Trippi on X, Israel's missile defense systems have only intercepted 65% of Iranian missiles launched in the last 24 hours compared to the over 90% the previous day, according to Israeli intelligence officials.
Of course, that in and of itself is questionable as we've got videos showing far less than 65% of missiles apparently intercepted, but Israel has recently put a censorship order and a Blackout on information about the missile strikes that are hitting it.
Clip number 17. This is one of the videos.
Fair warning.
This could be AI.
It's just impossible to tell.
We got to keep the audio down as we play this.
Because it's got a guy cursing as he's watching.
But this is clip 17. And it apparently shows Israel's Iron Dome failing to stop a massive barrage.
Of Iranian missiles as they rain down.
I don't see any interceptions taking place.
I see a lot of missiles striking home here.
And this apparently was filmed yesterday.
And the information that we're forced to rely on cannot be confirmed in most regards.
So I'm just saying, take this with a grain of salt.
But when you see enough of stuff like this, You tend to believe it.
And of course we do have confirmed videos.
Clip number 7 here.
Israeli air defenses say they've only intercepted about 65% of the missiles.
But I mean these things are just unimaginable.
In the face of war is changing extremely dramatically.
And it's funny because I said something about that on X saying, you know, what a crazy time.
we're watching war take place, but you never see a soldier, right?
And it's just this idea of these two It's like battleship where it's just like commanders 3,000 miles away from each other.
Have you ever played the magic card game?
You know, they've got this deck of cards.
They go, I'll play my Fata missile.
All right, I counter with my Iron Dome.
Oh, nice.
all right, well, I'm going to double down.
And somebody responded, I was just like, get over it.
Get over it, wussy.
This is what war looks like.
It's like, yeah, this is horrible.
No, this is awful.
Actually, I'm like a human being with morality and empathy, and I hate seeing cities bombed.
Sorry if that makes me a wussy, but yeah, sorry.
Sorry I don't like seeing innocent people.
Killed in a flash while they're sleeping.
I know.
I'm such a coward.
But it's not like it's particularly scary.
It's particularly inhuman and the scale is a size that's hard to even wrap your mind around.
But no, this is not just like any other war.
It's like, yeah, people kill people in war.
That's just what happens.
Not like this, though.
Not like this normally.
It's very different and it's...
It's hard to know what's having effect.
It's just not normal war, and we're in uncharted territory here.
Now, apparently on top of the Iron Dome not successfully hitting a great deal of the Iranian strikes, Israel's air defense stockpile may run dry within two weeks.
Israel's air defense system could be depleted within two weeks without U.S. support, media reports suggest, amid escalating strikes from Iran, officials warn the cost and complexity of interception may soon outstrip supply and strategic capacity.
And this is likely informing Iran's tactics.
They're not going to be wasting their expensive new missiles.
They've got a large stockpile of old missiles, and they can send those in small waves to cause Israel to waste all of their interceptors.
And they're seemingly in no rush, and they claim to have a massive stockpile of missiles not running dry anytime soon.
The senior IRGC general and politician Mohsen Rezi...
It has made some very bold statements on Iranian television.
He says we have punished the Israelis severely until today, but it's not enough.
Our punishment must be an insurance for the future so that the enemy does not dare to try to do this a second time.
The enemy intended to create chaos in the country by assassinating senior military commanders, but this attempt was thwarted in the first 48 hours.
In the next stage, it's intended to turn Iran into Syria and pledge it into a 10-year period of insecurity, but today the Zionist regime itself has become Syria.
He says, in the past 48 hours, you saw that we employed a new tactic, a combination of the Fatah and Sedgul missiles, and when these are used together, they create a truly serious disruption in the enemy's defense systems.
He says, That was one of the claims they made, is that basically they knew a few days before the sneak attack.
They were like, okay, yeah, the sneak attack's coming.
A lot of us knew, didn't really want to believe, but when Trump is issuing orders to evacuate embassies across Iraq and that sort of thing, most people thought an attack was coming, including Iran, who apparently moved a lot of the things they knew were going to be targets, like the enriched geranium, to alternative locations just before the attack occurred.
So it may be that some of the initial Israeli attacks that they thought knocked out Iran clearly putting out a, you know, a forward-facing persona of confidence and strength, which I think informs, you know, a lot of everything else that we see.
And this is why I'm so, like, sort of uncertain today, is we've gone from Israel just being infinitely confident and capable, and we will do it in three days.
We don't even need America's help.
Then begging America to help.
Sort of freaking out about America not helping already, and Iran comes out and goes, actually, we got this all in hand, and we haven't even asked Hezbollah to join yet, and we haven't even launched our new missiles, and we haven't even unleashed our real capabilities, and we don't want a ceasefire.
We want the destruction of Israel.
So this may have been a major miscalculation by Israel, perhaps an existential mistake by that state.
We'll wait to see.
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