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The American Journal: WWIII Alert! NATO Begs Trump To Send US Troops To Ukraine Under Guise Of ‘Peace’ Coalition - FULL SHOW - 03/03/2025
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jon bowne
Just how much of the Great Reset has already dug its blood-soaked talons into modern civilization?
unidentified
I've got a message for all illegals.
If you don't want to be pushed back, if you don't want to be arrested, if you don't want to be shot, don't come to our borders.
Do not come to the Polish border.
Then you're safe.
It's not us, it's not our police who came up to beat you up, to push you, or to arrest you.
It's you!
Who tried to break the law on our land.
jon bowne
The signs of sabotage are numerous and widespread as the vultures of great reset tyranny circle a sickened and angered populace that is on track for a mass starvation event in the very near future.
marc morano
We're seeing this madness spread everywhere now.
In Ireland, they're going to call 200,000 cows over three years to meet the net zero climate goals.
Germany, this is their German newspaper, The Daily Build.
One sausage per month.
According to the government's new proposal with the German Nutritional Society, this is real.
It's happening.
It's not theoretical.
We're not talking about down the road.
rosa koire
You know, when you know that agenda 2030 is simply a milestone year within that 100-year period, the milestone years are 2020, 2025, 2030, and 2050. They really fully expect to have this entire plan locked up and completed by 2050. If you go to America2050.org,
which is a Ford Foundation and Rockefeller Foundation project, you'll get a look at what their idea is for, in fact, what they want the United States to devolve into, which is to destroy the sense of having a unified...
Union and to, in fact, not have 50 states any longer, to have 11 mega regions.
And in fact, what this plan does is it destroys the actual, the concept of the nation state.
And it completely destroys it and devolves it into the city-states or regions.
And these are not, you know, like individual cities like, say, San Francisco or New York.
These are regions that are governed by megacities, which are huge, enormous cities.
It could be part of Washington state, part of Oregon, part of Idaho, and part of British Columbia.
So it breaks the national borders, it breaks state borders, breaks of course county and city borders.
And this is about destroying your ability to actually be able to control what it is that happens to you.
It's a plan that is actually, it's a global plan, but they implement it locally.
unidentified
People depend on you for what's left of the food.
jon bowne
You control them.
unidentified
Where food is abundant and cheap, you do not control them.
Where energy is cheap and abundant, you do not control them.
Scarcity equals dependency equals control.
And that's why they're targeting the food chain, they're targeting the energy supply, they're targeting...
jon bowne
French President Emmanuel Macron's country has been flooded with the United Nations self-proclaimed replacement migration, regardless of what the propaganda denying its existence would have you believe.
Macron is now priming the pump for energy crises and food shortages as the World Economic Forum once again tightens its grip on the neck of the French people.
disgraced California Governor Gavin Newsom has said the quiet part out loud, pushing California towards a goal of zero emissions by 2035.
gavin newsom
In the next 15 years, we will eliminate in the state of California the sales of internal combustion engines.
unidentified
Extreme heat will grip much of the state through the Labor Day weekend.
This morning, Governor Gavin Newsom is laying out ways you can stay safe and prevent putting a strain on the electrical grid over the upcoming days.
Let's listen in.
gavin newsom
We voluntarily ask you to do a little bit more to help us get through the next week or so.
To turn, interestingly, up a little bit the thermostat at home to 78 degrees.
Try to pre-cool earlier in the day the home.
Try not to use too much electricity in those key hours, and the key hours are between 4 p.m. and 9 p.m.
unidentified
If we are not able to ask skeptical questions, to interrogate those who tell us that something is true, to be skeptical of those in authority, then we're up for grabs for the next charlatan, political or religious who comes then we're up for grabs for the next charlatan, political or religious John Bowne reporting.
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
harrison smith
Welcome to the American Journal.
I'm your host Harrison Smith.
I'm going to be live this Monday morning.
You know, I try not to complain too much about the fact, but it is a fact, that every major world event happens immediately as soon as my show's over.
I don't know what it is, but it's especially grating when it's When it's a Friday.
When it's on a Friday.
Last Friday, we spent practically the whole show talking about the Epstein file debacle from Thursday.
Thursday night, you had the Epstein Phase 1 release, which wasn't a release and caused a lot of controversy.
We spent basically the entire show on Friday about that.
Our show ended at about 11 a.m.
At about 11.05 a.m., Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, and Zelensky met in front of the cameras.
And it was one of the most insane 15-minute period in all of American history.
It was really something to behold.
I've probably watched that full exchange 25 times at this point.
And it was absolutely amazing.
But of course, it just so happens to break five minutes after my show ends, which means I've had to wait three days to talk about it.
And in those three days, there have been a number of major developments following that very contentious meeting in the White House with Zelensky, J.D. Vance, and Donald Trump really going after each other.
Again, it was good television, as Donald Trump said.
Just absolutely fascinating stuff.
Since then, there's been an emergency meeting in Europe, and they are going all in on the Ukraine war with Keir Starmer, the UK Prime Minister, threatening boots on the ground fighting against Russia.
And we'll go over some of this.
I don't know if there's anything more to say.
I mean, at this point, even I, you know, I get...
Get on my phone and open up the news thing and it's like, fallout from the Zelensky Trump meeting.
I'm like, ugh, alright, enough already.
Because I focused on it a lot over the weekend.
But like I said, I haven't had a chance to comment on it.
So we'll comment a little bit on it.
But we'll look even more at some stuff that happened before the big explosion.
Yeah, Zelensky was kicked out of the White House.
Totally crazy stuff.
They call this a disastrous Oval Office meeting.
That Oval Office meeting might have prevented World War III from happening.
And that's really what we'll try to do today, is try to explain to people, because again, when I do this show, I try to think, okay, even more so now, there are two totally different worlds that the American population is living in.
The real world, which is the one that we represent, where Zelensky is a despotic criminal little gremlin who's trying desperately to start World War III at the behest of his globalist Western masters.
And you've got Donald Trump actually trying to bring about peace and being lambasted and called a Nazi for it.
And then there's the fake world, where Donald Trump just threw a stick in the spokes of...
The international community.
And everything is going down in flames because Donald Trump just got angry and started berating poor old Zelensky.
Poor little innocent Zelensky.
Who never did nothing wrong.
Just got bullied by Trump and J.D. Vance.
And now we have to nuke Russia to make up for it.
And so I want to confront that second vision.
I want to try to get through to people.
What's really going on here?
And the fact that the total wholesale destruction of America and Europe is the goal.
That's the desired goal.
And they're working towards this goal in a variety of different strategies, methods that they're employing.
And what Donald Trump is doing by stopping the conflict in Russia, by bringing about peace, by strong-arming Ukraine.
Bullying Europe or whatever other phrase you want to use.
Is he stopping World War III in its tracks?
And World War III was supposed to be and was always meant to be the final act of the Great Reset.
What happened in COVID was really just a stopgap measure to make sure this process could continue.
And I wonder where we should take it back to because I mean, you can obviously, you know, most people at least start talking about this in 2014 and talking about the fact that this is a 15-year-long conflict with Victoria Nuland and like, you know, all of that.
But, you know, even more importantly, we should go back to 2016 and look at the Steele dossier and the fact that Russia as an enemy being propped up is all, this is all in concert, right?
And then you've got the first impeachment, which Donald Trump was trying to look in.
And all of these things are deeply intertwined and tied in together and reveal the true motive and purpose behind all of these actions.
And just know the impeachment, the first impeachment over the phone call of Ukraine, that was a defensive measure, right?
That was the powers that be launching an impeachment in an attempt to distract Donald Trump from uncovering What they're up to in Ukraine, which is just a giant tangled spider web of corruption and mass murder and human trafficking and gain-of-function research and money laundering and weapon manufacturing.
I mean, it is a cesspit, and it's a very convenient location for the misdeeds of the people that run our country and the rest of the Western world.
So again, we'll try to get...
Impress upon people.
This isn't about Ukraine necessarily.
It's not only about Ukraine.
This is about the long planned for and desired Third World War, which they're now desperately trying to spark with this emergency meeting in Europe with all these European leaders pledging the impossible, pledging boots on the ground when they don't have any boots.
They're like, we will be their boots on the ground and planes in the air.
It's like, well, do you have any planes?
And they're like, well, no, actually no.
And, of course, this has led to the suggestion that we should be getting out of NATO and the UN, which we absolutely should.
Again, we'll get into all of it.
We'll show you the videos.
And we'll show you some more stuff that has been overshadowed by the conflict with Zelensky in the White House, including slightly before that, in that same meeting, where Donald Trump and J.D. Vance were asked about the U.K. police.
threatening to extradite Americans for what they post online.
We'll get into all of that and more today with a very special guest in studio.
We will be joined by the one and only Stuart Rhodes.
He'll be in studio with us.
I'll be seeing him for the first time since he was hauled away and thrown into a gulag for his peaceful and lawful activism in this country.
So very excited to talk to him in the third hour.
In the meantime, let's begin today, as we do every day, with our Daily Dispatch.
All right, here it is, folks, your Daily Dispatch for Monday, the 3rd of March, 2025, all the way back to Friday here.
Trump berates Zelensky in fiery exchange at the White House.
President Trump and J.D. Vance castigated President Vladimir Zelensky of Ukraine for not being grateful enough for USAID, saying you're gambling with World War III, Trump told Zelensky.
The United States' relationship with Ukraine erupted in a storm of acrimony on Friday as President Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance berated President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine in an explosive televised Oval Office showdown and abruptly cut short a visit meant to coordinate a plan for peace.
In a fiery public confrontation, unlike any scene between an American president and foreign leader in modern times, Mr. Trump and Mr. Vance castigated Mr. Zelensky for not being grateful enough for U.S. support in Ukraine's war with Russia and sought to strong-arm him into making a peace deal on whatever terms the Americans dictated.
With his voice raised and temper flaring, Mr. Trump threatened to abandon Ukraine altogether.
Mr. Zelensky did not go along.
After journalists left the Oval Office, Mr. Trump canceled the rest of the visit, including a planned joint press conference and signing ceremony for a deal on rare minerals.
And U.S. officials told the Ukrainians to leave.
A grim-faced Mr. Zelensky strode out, climbed into a waiting black sports utility vehicle, and departed White House crowns.
unidentified
Thank you.
harrison smith
Again, that's the way that the New York Times characterizes it.
I would characterize it a little bit differently.
We'll show you some responses to this.
Again, we'll get back into this in just a minute.
What I found the most enlightening, what I've appreciated the most out of all of this is, for some reason, black TikTokers responding to this has been the most entertaining thing ever.
So while you have...
Bunch of CNN-style liberals hyperventilating and, oh my dear, oh goodness me, Trump is bullying Zelensky.
Every black commentator I've seen, like not even political ones, leftists, you know, more socialist leading ones.
Still, for some reason, it's from the black community that it's a bunch of people going, Zelensky just came in and disrespected us in our house?
This is America.
You don't do that.
Trump was being a G. Trump was absolutely flexing the might of America and put Zelensky in his place exactly like he deserved.
The disrespect Zelensky showed, the confronting, the interrupting, I mean, it was just so patently disrespectful.
And for the global elite, sort of a feat, effeminate political class, this was outrageous.
But for the average person, On the streets of America, it was seeing America be stood up for.
It was to see the leader of this country actually defending us in an aggressive way.
It was incredibly refreshing to see.
And again, we'll get back to that in just a little bit.
Meanwhile, New York Times, who will join Europe's coalition of the willing to help Ukraine?
Prime Minister Keir Starmer of Britain asked...
How many countries will step up, and does that even matter given Russia's rejection of such a coalition as part of any settlement?
Well, he left those questions unanswered as he bade farewell to fellow leaders at a summit meeting in London on Sunday.
He conceded that not every nation will be able to contribute, though he expressed optimism that several would, and this would send a signal to President Trump that Europe was ready to, quote, do the heavy lifting.
Drawing Mr. Trump back into the process was...
is as important as the mission and scope of the European coalition, analysts say.
For the moment, the United States appears determined to strike a deal with President Vladimir Putin of Russia over the heads of Europe and Ukraine and without any security guarantees.
Again, we'll show you the videos, but you've got Keir Starmer and other European leaders acting like they're going to go it alone, but they're not because they can't.
So those are the facts on the ground.
What they're actually doing...
It's trying desperately to spark World War III and preserve all of the gains that they've achieved in the run-up to World War III. Peace now would derail all of their plans, so they're desperate to continue war.
Again, we'll get back into that in just a minute until our next story continues.
On that same topic, British PM pledges billions for Ukraine, including air support.
Keir Starmer hosted a last-minute summit in London with other European leaders on Sunday.
Britain, France, and Ukraine are working together to produce a peace plan to present to the United States to bring an end to the war.
Prime Minister Starmer emphasized that the U.S. remains a key ally and also said that Europe must be responsible for its own defense.
Yeah, something that Donald Trump repeatedly tells them and they repeatedly call him an authoritarian meddler.
I mean, they just have nothing but disdain and hateful words for Trump.
Saying exactly what they're now saying.
So that's kind of interesting.
So once again, Trump's just strong-arm style negotiation tactics are bearing fruit in getting Europe to actually talk about defending itself.
Now whether they actually can or not is a whole other question that we'll approach a little bit later.
But speaking of Europe...
Defending itself, one killed and several injured in suspected car ramming in Mannheim, Germany.
At least one person was killed and several more were injured in a suspected car ramming in the western German city of Mannheim on Monday, police said.
As part of the search measures that were immediately initiated, a suspect was identified and arrested.
No further reliable information can currently be released beyond the information pushed so far, Mannheim police said in a statement.
police will not clarify the number or severity of the injuries injuries and release no information about the suspect a major police operation was underway and people were urged to avoid the city center which has been busy due to an ongoing carnival season manheimer morgan newspaper spoke to an eyewitness who saw a car drive into several pedestrians so this is practically a daily thing in europe now
Literally a daily thing where every single day another group of innocent people, women and children, are stabbed or raped or burned to death.
or run over with a car because Europe is systematically destroying itself.
It's been engaged in systematically destroying itself through massive migration but also economic destruction and a flurry of other just suicidal programs for the last several decades and we're now seeing the death throes of Europe itself.
There's still time to reverse course but Not once the nukes start flying.
So again, we'll be talking a lot about Europe today.
But finally, we have this classical American story.
We are on the moon.
A private US spaceship sends back spectacular lunar shots.
Ghost Riders in the Sky touches the moon.
The moon surface and Earth appear on the horizon with Blue Ghost's solar panel, X-band antenna on the left, and LEXI payload on the right.
A U.S. company successfully landed its spacecraft on the moon, becoming only the second private mission to reach this milestone and the first to touch down in an upright position.
The mission has been nicknamed Ghost Riders in the Sky.
This was Firefly Aerospace.
They're actually here in Austin.
They're in Pflugerville, a small town just outside of Austin.
And they have successfully landed on the moon with a spacecraft landing in an upright position, meaning that a private company from Texas has now achieved a mission that the Indians, the Israelis, the Chinese have repeatedly failed to achieve in the recent past.
So there's still hope for human advancement out there.
If you're looking for that sort of thing.
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So we're going to, again, be talking a lot about Europe today.
But there was something that was missed in the Zelensky meeting after all the fireworks at the end have obviously taken all the attention.
But even before that, a very powerful statement was made against the increasingly censorious nature of the European Union and its constituent governments.
That is, they're really cracking down on free speech.
They're actually abandoning the principle of free speech and instead opting to provide safety and comfort.
For their population by silencing anybody who disagrees with the government.
And it's actually gone so far that they've threatened to arrest American citizens here in the States, extradite them to Europe to be brought up on charges against their hate speech laws.
Let's go to clip number nine here.
This is English police saying they will extradite and imprison Americans over what we post online.
Good luck.
Here it is.
unidentified
We will throw the force force of the law at people.
And whether you're in this country committing crimes on the streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you.
Talk to me about that because we have seen some high-profile figures whipping up the hatred.
You talked about it in there with the officers, in fact, about this being added to by online commentary.
I mean, I'm even thinking of the likes of Elon Musk getting involved.
What are you considering when it comes to dealing with people who are whipping up this kind of behaviour from behind a keyboard maybe in a different country?
Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law.
You can be guilty of offences of incitement, of stirring up racial hatred.
There are numerous terrorist offences regarding the publishing of material.
All of those offenses are in play if people are provoking hatred and violence on the streets.
And we'll come after those individuals just as we will physically confront on the streets the thugs and the obs who are causing the promise for communities.
harrison smith
Now, I don't even have time to go through the ways in which censorship has gone off the rails in Europe.
But just to give you an example, there are literally examples of people.
Like girls raped by migrants in which the girl is given a greater prison sentence for insulting the migrant than the migrant gets for raping the girl.
Migrant gets three years, the girl gets five because she incited hatred by criticizing the ethnicity of her rapist.
That's just one example of a variety that we could spend literally the entire show detailing.
Including people putting up stickers that simply show government statistics showing the trajectory of white population decline and population replacement in the UK. Putting stickers up that show government statistics and being thrown into prison for years and deemed a dangerous racist terrorist.
And that being used as an excuse to deny even being able to hear news about their daughters while in prison.
So again, the tradition of free speech that was born in Europe and was simply codified in the Constitution here in the United States, but was always an outgrowth of English common law, has been thoroughly dismantled at this point.
And they're actually threatening to come after Americans, which under Joe Biden absolutely was a possibility.
It's not a stretch at all to imagine the Biden regime.
Getting a letter from the UK saying, yes, one of your citizens insulted our beautiful jasmine-scented Muslims, our migrant population.
Please extradite them.
And Joe Biden saying, hey, it's the international order.
It's the international rules-based order.
And to be good global citizens, we have to extradite American citizens to pay their, you know, to receive their punishment.
Pay back the debt to society they owe for disagreeing with the European Union.
That was absolutely a possibility.
Under Trump, that's not so much a possibility.
And in fact, they were asked about this during the meeting with Zelensky on Friday.
I'll show you that video on the other side, J.D. Vance and Donald Trump.
Well, they're not Biden, let's just say that.
And they're not going along with the increasing totalitarianism and authoritarianism.
They're actually fighting back against it in a way that could potentially free Europe from the grip of this hostile occupation that is the EU as well as their national governments.
We'll get back into it on the other side with that clip of Trump just smacking down this absurd claim from Keir Starmer.
All right, welcome back.
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unidentified
We got a lot to talk about today.
harrison smith
We've got the Epstein files still being discussed as they've yet to be released.
We're now, what, 200 hours past the 8 a.m.
deadline on Friday?
Yeah, nothing came of that.
Not a big surprise, though, for anybody paying attention.
But we're mostly going to be focusing on the fact that Europe is doing everything it possibly can to drag the world into World War III and prevent their little pet project.
In the Ukraine from being ended before they're able to achieve its purpose and design, which was always to get NATO into direct confrontation with Russia.
But before we get into that, and we got a lot of videos to show you about that and a lot of major moves happening directly related to that.
Before we get into that, again, we have to talk about Something that a lot of people overlooked during that meeting is just before the fireworks, just before the explosive confrontation where Zelensky is trying to strong-arm and speak down to, condescend to, interrupting J.D. Vance and Donald Trump in the White House.
Just the biggest diplomatic fumble of all time, maybe.
And I got my own interpretation about this.
I think this is sort of what Trump wanted the entire time.
And while the whole 40 minutes before the big breakdown was fairly friendly, if you watch the whole event, like the first thing Trump says to Zelensky when Zelensky got out of the car was like, oh, look, he dressed up today.
Look how much he dressed up.
Of course, he's wearing his costume, his front-line battlefield gear costume, refusing to wear a suit, which...
He was also asked about.
We'll show you that.
But again, Trump obviously not happy with Zelensky, and for very good reason.
The man is a petty little gremlin tyrant who's taken hundreds of billions of our dollars, lost half of it, sold weapons to our enemies, including the Mexican cartels, killed a million of his own people and Russians in this senseless, pointless, And at this point, you know, lost for two years conflict with Russia.
And again, we'll get into all of it, but you have to understand this isn't even about Russia and Ukraine.
These are not actually the forces that are fighting right now.
This is the New World Order globalist psychopath elite trying to maneuver Russia and Ukraine into a position to wipe out Europe once and for all.
They're trying to start World War III between Russia, Europe, NATO, the United States.
So they can nuke all of us to death and just continue to establish their global control grid, totalitarian, one world government without the interference of white people who tend to be the people who stand up against tyranny throughout history and who have developed cultures that are open and yet still maintain control and peace.
So again, we'll...
I'm going to try to widen the scope of understanding here.
A lot of people really treating this like a legitimate conflict.
It's not.
I mean, all of this has been orchestrated, not even really in secret, just like the mainstream media just doesn't talk about it, but all of it's been done openly.
And again, we'll take a look back at the history of it.
Not so much Victoria Nuland and John McCain.
You know, celebrating and presiding over the coup that took place in Ukraine, but relating it to the first impeachment of Donald Trump, the Russiagate collusion scandal, and all of that.
But again, before we get into any of that, I want to talk about the collapse of European values and the way in which the UK in particular, but really every...
Every European state, including the EU super state itself, is hell-bent on destroying the very foundational belief system that makes it worth fighting for in the first place.
This is what J.D. Vance said when he gave that speech in Munich.
What are you fighting for?
What are you fighting to preserve?
Because if it's this liberal European...
Well, that's already gone.
You haven't preserved that.
That's actually been eradicated pretty thoroughly in those countries.
And this really is an important thing to understand because when you talk to a normie person and ask them to justify the war in Ukraine, they're likely to say something about Putin being a tyrant.
How tyrannical Putin is.
He's an autocrat.
He has unfair elections.
People are afraid to speak out against him in Russia.
Now, those may be valid criticisms.
They may not be, but they may be.
And even if they are completely legitimate and 100% true, what about the UK, who has a much smaller population and yet many, many more people in prison for a lot longer over a lot less offensive speech?
I mean, if this is the grading rubric upon which we decide who's a friend and who's an enemy, And Vladimir Putin is on the enemy side because he's an autocrat and he doesn't believe in free speech, then the UK should be even further down that enemy spectrum because they are less free than Russia in a lot of ways.
And of course then you can talk about Saudi Arabia and other places that are our long-time allies, or hell, Israel for that matter.
And you can take a look at whether they are free and fair and open societies or whether they...
At their foundation, like the core of their existence, are diametrically opposed to everything that we're supposed to believe in America and Europe.
So again, you've got this happening in a variety of different ways.
You have the DSA, Digital Services Act, as they're trying to rein in American companies and force them to bend to European censorship laws.
But you also have the UK, including the head cop there in the UK, Threatening to extradite Americans over our free speech.
Not only is that absolutely not going to happen.
Now, it may have happened under Biden.
It may happen under a Democrat.
As we know, because they're not shy and they tell us over and over again, the Democrats are desperate to institute this type of free speech restriction, this type of hate speech laws, this psychologically programmed but completely Inadequate justification for applying censorship because of presumed hate or perceived hate or potential hate or just facts that could inspire hate.
Like J.D. Vance, again, laid out in that speech, there are not just laws, but there are actually cases of people in the UK, and we've covered it, being arrested for praying silently in their heads.
That's actually...
There was a case like last week, maybe two weeks ago, of a man burning a Quran in the UK. He's stabbed by a Muslim migrant.
The Muslim migrant is let go, and the man who was burning the Quran is actually kept in prison.
So a man who burnt his own property is stabbed.
The stabber is let out on bail.
The person who burned the Quran is arrested for...
You know, inspiring racial or inspiring religious hatred and is kept in prison.
It happened like two weeks ago.
So they've already fully gone down the road towards complete and total like religious censorship, like blasphemy laws in those countries, but they only apply to white Christians and nobody else.
And they actually want to extradite that here to America.
They want to export that to America and then extradite Americans back to Europe.
To face completely rigged courts, to be imprisoned for years in the most brutal conditions.
By the way, UK prisons are basically gigantic Muslim recruiting centers.
Entire prisons are literally run by Muslim gangs with clerics in prison directing their followers.
So pretty much anybody who goes to those prisons who's white and Christian, And he's being imprisoned for hate speech against Muslims.
It's lucky when they can get out alive.
And you have a ton of stories of people being arrested for like putting bacon on the front steps of a mosque.
And they're sentenced to three years in prison.
And they make it three months before the Muslims kill them.
So insulting Muslims, pretty much a literal death sentence in the UK at this point.
And so, you know, all of this, all of this aligns together.
All of this is associated with each other.
The fact that they are just fine going after Russia and starting war with Russia because of Putin's totalitarianism while they themselves are even more totalitarian.
This all matters and needs to be explained to people who think that what's happening in Europe has any remote connection to reality.
As if this is actually free countries and democracy standing up against a rabid authoritarian land grab.
You have to get through your mind that that is a complete illusion, a total fraud.
Could not be farther from the truth.
The truth is that you have these psychotic control freaks in charge of Europe deliberately, systematically, and in a hundred different ways destroying their own people.
Forever.
In a permanent fashion.
And that's the economy and the Green New Deal and the cutting off of the Russian oil resources, causing prices to skyrocket.
I mean, do you know that the U.S. state of Mississippi now outranks Germany in terms of industrial production?
It just happened like last week.
The GDP of Mississippi is now greater than Germany.
Or some stat.
I can't remember exactly what the stat is, but it's like industrial output manufacturing capacity.
Mississippi, one of our 50 states, and not really a powerhouse, to be honest with you.
God bless Mississippi, but you tell me New York or California outdoes Germany, it's like, well, yeah.
But no, it's like Germany can't even compete with half of America.
So that's all the consequence of the deliberate...
Deconstruction of Europe.
The shutting down of nuclear power plants while simultaneously cutting off fossil fuels.
The restrictive speech practices while claiming to be a democracy.
The parliamentary tricks where every left wing and center right party collaborating to stop the AFD or any other right wing party in Europe from actually doing the things to save that continent from the wholesale suicidal destruction of its elites.
They're being destroyed.
Okay?
So, just understand, when these people are talking about we need to save Europe from Russia, these are the arsonists dressed up like firemen, right?
These are the people that started the fire, that are stoking the fire, that are contributing to and allowing and helping.
There you go.
Mississippi, the poorest state in the United States, is close to surpassing Europe's largest economy, Germany, GDP per capita.
And I believe it has.
I believe it has passed it.
So they're the ones starting and encouraging this conflagration, this total incineration of Europe as an identity, as a continent, as a people, as a set of nations.
It's all being burnt to the ground by the people who now say we have to start a war with Russia to save it.
They're the ones destroying it, okay?
Again, all of this connected, all of it intertwined.
But this is one of the things that most people missed in the conference with Zelensky, J.D. Vance, and Trump.
Obviously, the big blow-up took all the attention.
But just before that, they'd actually been asked, Trump had been asked about this statement from the U.K., Keir Starmer, about free speech and the fact that they would want to extradite Americans back to the U.K. to face justice and be imprisoned over things they post online.
Let's go now to clip 11. Donald Trump and J.D. Vance's response to this threat from Keir Starmer.
unidentified
Thank you, Mr. President.
Prime Minister Starmer claims repeatedly that his government believes in free speech and is not engaged in censorship.
But his country is helping to arrest people for memes and thought crimes.
And even more worrisome is pressuring American companies to censor Americans on his behalf.
How can he be a reliable, trustworthy partner when he says things that are demonstrably false on such an important topic?
donald j trump
Well, we actually spoke to him about that yesterday, and we thought they took it very much too far.
harrison smith
J.D. was very strong on it.
marc morano
So was I. So was Marco.
And we've been speaking to him about it.
Marco, would you like to say something about that?
unidentified
We have concerns, obviously, with the conduct of those, particularly as it impacts Americans.
And there's real concern that American speech, which is online, could fall into the hands of British or any country's jurisdiction.
And so this is a point the Vice President made in Munich, and I think it's a very compelling one, that what unites us with Europe, as much as anything else, is these shared values, and one of them being It's actually a very important question.
jd vance
We spoke about this in detail with the Prime Minister, the Foreign Secretary and others at lunch yesterday.
And I know that Secretary of Commerce Lutnik followed up in private meetings last night.
This is really important.
We believe Americans have the right to speak their mind.
even if we in this room disagree with them.
They have the right to speak their mind in the public square, which is often online these days.
And we're going to defend that right as it pertains to American companies and American citizens vigorously if we have to.
I do think that under the president's leadership, we're going to find common ground with our friends in the UK on this question.
But it remains to be seen.
The principle that will guide us is we believe in free speech in this country and we'll fight for it for American citizens.
unidentified
So there you go.
harrison smith
Pretty incredible stuff, and Donald Trump and J.D. Vance both expressing that this is very important.
Donald Trump, when they're about to finish the questioning, he's like, you know, this is actually a very important question.
This isn't just a sideshow.
It's not just an offhanded comment.
They're really concerned about this, as they should be, because obviously free speech for a reason is our First Amendment, and it's not that this is an American invention, remember.
This is the American Constitution is simply the outgrowth of European or UK, United Kingdom common law, British common law, that had been refined and expanded over centuries.
When you go back to the Magna Carta, and that had aspects of it having to do with free speech and the ability of the subject of the king to not be killed by the king for disagreeing with them.
That was in the 1200s.
Development after development contributed to this This idea of free speech was codified here in America, but it was developed and nurtured and grew to reality in the UK. And,
of course, that was one of the main things that we started World War II over because it set us apart and made us different than the totalitarian or authoritarian fascist governments where your belief system was dictated to you.
From on high.
You know, that was an anathema.
That was completely rejected by Europeans of conscience in the UK who refused to allow that style of governance to sweep over Europe.
Well, it has.
Well, they defeated the Nazis and they became the Nazis, essentially.
In practice, at least.
And are now far, far more restrictive in their speech than...
Well, then King George III was, or then even Putin is.
And again, we can show you the numbers on that.
But the destruction of free speech is just one aspect of a variety of ways in which the European character is being winnowed away, destroyed, and eradicated.
But they say, you know, obviously that's not going to happen.
We're going to protect Americans free speech and they want to encourage Europe to continue to express free speech because, well, that's one of the things that we actually have in common with them.
And if that goes away, then they're no different than any other totalitarian government around the world.
We can still work with them, but they certainly lose that.
Distinctly European character.
So they say they actually talked to them about that for a long time and smacked down the idea that the UK would be...
Capable of extraditing Americans to face punishment for their speech in the UK. So I'd like to encourage all of you out there, do your part as an American and say the things that the people in the UK are legally prevented from saying.
And I mean, at this point, we've shown videos, we showed the video last week of the person in Brussels going, yeah, I'm being brought up on charges.
Because there was a meme shared in a group chat that I was in.
And he's like, I might go to jail for two years.
For reading a meme.
He didn't send the meme.
The meme just was sent by somebody else to a group chat that he was in.
And now he's facing jail for that.
So, you know, at this point, they're so far gone.
I don't even know if they can see the memes that we send them, but...
The United States really is the last bastion for free speech in the world.
Certainly in comparison to places like, well, the Ukraine.
Let's go to clip number 23 here.
This is a Ukrainian MP who's been in prison since the beginning of the war because he was the one who exposed the Biden's pay-for-play activity there in Ukraine.
unidentified
Let's go to clip 23. Honorable Mr. Trump.
My name is Oleksandr Dubinsky, and I am a member of the Parliament of Ukraine.
However, for the past 15 months, I have been unlawfully imprisoned on fabricated charges.
Crime was exposing corruption involving the Biden family.
I was the first one who exposed this information in 2019, and I was labeled Russian agent for that.
Today, hundreds of people in Ukraine are incarcerated, not for any legitimate offense, but solely for their political beliefs.
Their only guilt lies in speaking the truth, opposing Zelensky's administration, and calling for an end to the war.
These individuals are subjected to arbitrary arrests.
Torture and politically motivated charges of treason with judicial proceedings predetermined to serve political interests.
Under Zelensky's leadership, Ukraine has dismantled independent courts, weaponized law enforcement institutions and eliminated fundamental democratic processes.
There are no free elections, no independent media and no right to a fair legal defense.
Instead, a climate of fear and repression prevails.
Furthermore, during Zelensky's tenure, secret detention facilities operated by the Security Service of Ukraine, SBU, have emerged.
These sites have been used for the illegal detention, coercion and torture of individuals to extract forced confessions.
The United Nations has documented the existence of at least one such illegal prison in Kiev, right in the headquarter of SBU, where since March 2022, approximately 300 individuals, including U.S. citizens, have been held.
Among them was American journalist...
Gonzalo Lira, who was unlawfully detained by SBU officers held under inhumane conditions and later died in December 2023 following beatings and extortion while imprisoned in the Kharkiv detention center.
I have personally been subjected to physical assaults and torture on two occasions in prison in an attempt to coerce me into falsely confessing to alleged connections with Russian intelligence and to admitting that my 2019 expose of the corruption of the Biden family were part of a Russian intelligence operation.
The true objective was to fabricate a false narrative linking your campaign, Mr. Trump, to Russia in an effort to conceal the origins of this operation.
These allegations were deliberately manufactured in Ukraine, intended to justify the failed 51 intelligence officials letter and extend this false narrative into 2024.
Ukraine has effectively been transformed into an instrument of political repression and external interference.
President Zelensky and his administration act in the interests of globalist elites, Soros-affiliated NGOs and USAID-funded NGOs and media, systematically dismantling democracy in Ukraine and suppressing political dissent.
Nevertheless, I remain steadfast in my commitment to justice and democracy.
Despite my imprisonment, I have filed a lawsuit with the Supreme Court of Ukraine demanding the restoration of constitutional order through the scheduling of presidential elections.
As a Ukrainian citizen, I have also officially declared my candidacy for the presidency.
I am prepared to run as a candidate from the Party of Peace and fully support your vision for ending the war.
Ukraine urgently requires a pathway to peace.
Mr. Trump, I appeal to you as a leader who has consistently defended the principles of democracy and...
I am providing a list of political prisoners, though this is only a fraction of those who have been unlawfully detained.
I respectfully urge you to take all necessary measures to secure the release of these individuals as well as all other victims of political persecution.
Their plight represents a critical test of the principles of freedom and human rights.
They should be free.
harrison smith
Here's a list of politicians, journalists, businessmen, and officials killed, kidnapped, or tortured during Zelensky's reign, and it lists out all the people, or no, at least some of the people, killed, assassinated, or imprisoned, including, remember, Gonzalo Lira, American journalist, detained and murdered in the Ukrainian prison system with absolutely not a finger lifted from the American State Department.
Try to get his release.
Again, that is a member of parliament, Ukraine, one of the first people to blow the whistle on the Biden's activities in that country, imprisoned for 15 months, torturous conditions.
These are our allies who are fighting to save democracy.
Just think about that.
If that's not really why we're fighting, then what's the real reason?
unidentified
There is currently a panic in Europe as the European politicians find themselves to be surrounded by foreign powers which fundamentally do not agree with them on how the world ought to be governed.
We have been treated to headlines from elite publications such as Foreign Policy magazine or the Financial Times informing us that the US is now the enemy of the West and yes, America is Europe's enemy now.
These are headlines I never thought I would see in my lifetime, and it's become apparent to me that the dividing line between who is a friend and who is an enemy is no longer being drawn on the traditional demarcations of the post-World War II liberal order.
In fact, Ursula von der Leyen and the EU sees the rules-based order as being under siege.
By a kind of politics that they can only describe as far right, because they do not understand it.
It is, in fact, so far out of the scope of their comprehension, and what they would consider to be acceptable, that it thrusts them into a realm of such profound uncertainty, that this becomes something akin to a catastrophe to them, even though materially not much has changed, and indeed, things may well get better.
In Ideology and Utopia, Hungarian sociologist Karl Mannheim addresses the question of whether there can be a science of politics.
In his evaluation, he describes how the drive of the bourgeois liberals to create a science of politics would bring into being the rules-based order of the European Union.
Science requires its answers to be necessary and predictable.
If I add this chemical to that chemical, I will always see a certain kind of chemical reaction.
If I heat this metal to this temperature, then I will always be able to bend it with such and such amount of force and so on.
This requires a mechanical set of materials to work upon, and whilst it may accurately describe our ability to manipulate the natural world, it does not fully encompass our ability to deal with our fellow man.
Though he was writing in 1929 and the European Union wouldn't properly begin to be assembled until 1948, the general concept of a united Europe was present in the beginning of the 20th century, and Europe's bourgeois intellectuals had been diligently working towards it.
Mannheim accurately presaged how the European Union would end up functioning because of the ideology and worldview of the bourgeois liberal and how that informed the necessary methods that they would have to use to accomplish their goal.
Mannheim noted that their desire was to rationalize European politics, that is, to create logical systems which would ensure predictable results, to create certainty in the face of uncertainty.
As he put it...
Every social process may be divided into a rationalized sphere consisting of settled and routinized procedures in dealing with situations that recur in an orderly fashion and the irrational by which it is surrounded.
We are therefore distinguishing between the rationalized structure of society and the irrational matrix.
The chief characteristic of modern culture This ordering of the world is present all around us now, and it has its virtues.
Some things ought to be bureaucratized to ensure that they function well and do what they are supposed to.
Mannheim gives us the example of travel as a realm in which bureaucratization is useful.
As he says, the traveler of 150 years ago was exposed to a thousand accidents.
Today, everything proceeds according to schedule.
Fare is exactly calculated, and a whole series of administrative measures have made travel into a rationally controlled enterprise.
And this is useful.
You want to know when you're going to get to your destination and how much it's going to cost you.
And this also allows Mannheim to differentiate between the concepts of behavior and conduct.
As he says, the perception of the distinction between the rationalized scheme and the irrational setting in which it operates provides the possibility for a definition of the concept conduct.
Conduct, in the sense which we use it, does not begin...
harrison smith
This is the latest video from Carl Benjamin, a.k.a.
Sargon of Akkad.
You can find it on his x at sargon underscore of underscore Akkad.
A-K-K-A-D. The whole thing's 20 minutes.
It's absolutely brilliant.
It gives an incredible breakdown of the underlying philosophy of why Europe is acting like the world is ending.
Because for them, it is.
It's a wonderful thing.
Alright, welcome back.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the American Journal.
I'm your host, Harrison Smith.
This whole weekend, the world was embroiled in the fallout of the televised negotiation between Zelensky...
Trump and JD Vance that happened on Friday as it went a little off the rails, a little bit off the rails, but it was amazing.
It was absolutely fantastic.
And I probably watched that whole exchange 20, 25 times at this point, front to back, because so many people kept reposting it, and it kept popping up in my feed, and I would just watch it the whole time.
Every time it popped up, it was...
It was so good.
And then, you know, my dad came into town and was like, so what's your takeaway?
Like, what do you think, what's your takeaway from that?
He just asked me some sort of open-ended question.
And I sort of froze.
I was sort of like, I don't even, I mean, what even is there to take away from that?
It's like, it's unlike anything we've ever seen.
It was fantastic.
It was certainly completely different.
Than anything that we've seen with Biden or even previously with Trump.
People were posting the side-by-side video of Zelensky, Trump, and J.D. Vance versus the negotiation.
Do you remember Trump did this with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer?
Said, yeah, we're going to negotiate, but we're going to do it in front of the cameras.
And we're going to have to work this out in front of everybody.
And people were showing these two videos with J.D. Vance, of course.
You know, jumping in and going back and forth with Zelensky compared to back when it was Chuck Schumer, you know, making threats to Donald Trump and Mike Pence just sitting there politely allowing it to happen.
It's amazing to see this double teaming of the attack and their dynamic is so interesting.
J.D. Vance and Donald Trump.
And of course, it went off the rails when J.D. Vance asked about or made a comment about the Biden administration giving money over to Zelensky.
And Zelensky started questioning J.D. Vance directly.
And it was the biggest political blunder you can possibly imagine.
Even in just the disrespect.
That Zelensky was showing to Trump and J.D. Vance.
And I made a meme out of, and Alex picked it up, one line from Trump where you could really see that the energy had shifted in the room when Zelensky's like, you'll feel it.
You don't feel it now, but you'll feel it.
And Trump says, you're not going to tell us how we feel.
You're not in a position to tell us how we feel.
We're going to feel great.
We're going to feel fine.
You don't tell us how we're going to feel.
Because obviously that was like a threat from Zelensky.
It's like a subtle kind of do what I say or else you'll be feeling it next time.
But I think it's even deeper than that.
And maybe there's reading too much into it.
But I feel like that that phrase sort of summarizes The revolution we're living through right now.
You're not going to tell us how we feel.
That's what it's all about.
Because their entire system is predicated on, and this is why I showed the Carl Benjamin piece about the return of the great man, the death of this bureaucratized, industrialized humanity.
Because it's all predicated on manipulating people's feelings.
It's all predicated on keeping people submissive not through violence but through manipulation of the way that they feel or the information that then informs how they feel about these things.
And it literally is as simple as not letting them tell you how to feel.
Dictate to you.
When you're angry, when you're sad, when you're happy, when you're infuriated.
By manipulating you in that way, they've been able to largely take over the world and practically start World War III. Now Donald Trump is stepping in and stopping them from doing that.
And I really do think that this reversal is summed up in that one phrase.
you're not going to tell us how to feel.
I hope you understand what I mean by that.
Again, because what you have is people like Zelensky, who have no leverage, have no authority, have no right to demand anything of anybody ever.
And yet, these are like the chihuahuas that are barking down a pit bull.
It's like...
This whole thing is illusionary.
This whole thing is a fraud.
This whole thing is imposed by fiat falsely.
It's not real.
He doesn't really have the moral upper hand.
He doesn't really have the ability to make demands.
That's all illusionary.
That's all imaginary.
That's all a giant deception that they've all agreed to perpetuate.
We don't have to fall for it.
We don't have to fall for their crocodile tears or their false modesty, their fake humility.
We can just ignore it.
And again, this sort of goes to everything that Trump is doing.
And Trump is doing a lot.
The other thing is that I know people are so far gone at this point.
And I don't know how we deal with this.
But it's a huge problem.
But I don't want to talk about it because there's so much other stuff to talk about.
It clearly is a big problem.
They have people so demoralized.
There's a huge portion of the people on our side, ostensibly, that they have literally rigged to never...
They cannot achieve victory.
They cannot win.
They're in a mental prison where they cannot achieve victory.
Because they have people defining...
The world is like, if we are winning, then it's a trick.
And you know, I always quote the ancient Roman proverb that's like, an enemy is not defeated if he does not believe himself so.
Meaning, right, that if your enemy is stubborn and just refuses to acknowledge that they've lost, then they haven't really lost.
They don't lose until...
Your enemy doesn't lose until they admit that they've lost, until they surrender, until they give up.
Right?
And as long as you don't give up, you really can't lose.
Now the flip side of that is this situation we're dealing with where you've got people who cannot win, who like really think That literally everything is a scam and everything is a trick.
And every good person, like, it's to the point, I saw a collage of, like, all of these profile pictures.
And it was like, everybody in this collage is being paid by somebody to push a message.
And it was literally every, it was like a hundred profile pictures.
And it was basically everybody in the right wing over 100,000 followers that they're on the list, right?
And that's the mindset of a lot of people on our side.
Where it's like, oh, he's the real deal.
Until he gets up to 100,000 followers.
And now he's a sellout and he's a total fraud and he's a total fake and we have to tear him down.
It's like this crab in the bucket mentality.
Where it's like your enemy will never be defeated as long as he doesn't believe himself so.
But we will never achieve victory.
As long as we don't think we can achieve victory.
It really is that simple.
What's happening right now is real.
And I don't know how to get that through to people because it's so obvious I shouldn't have to explain it.
People think the assassination was fake.
Literally impossible to fake.
You cannot fake something like that.
People think that this confrontation with Zelensky was scripted.
Are you kidding me?
You can't script stuff like this.
You really can't.
Don't ascribe to these people supernatural powers.
And just think for a second about what you're saying.
Have you ever seen a play?
Have you ever seen such amateur actors?
It's not convincing.
It's never convincing.
It always looks fake.
Have you ever seen World Wrestling Federation?
People are like, this is all just professional wrestling.
They're pretending to be enemies.
And it's like, have you ever seen those shows?
Or is any of it convincing even in the slightest?
The exchange between Zelensky and Trump and J.D. Vance.
Do you think Trump is going to memorize anything?
Do you think he's going to read a script if you give him a script?
Do you think he's going to memorize a script to the point that he can be hitting every cue perfectly at an exact moment in front of a live TV audience of the entire world?
One take.
This is absurd.
This is ridiculous.
What we're seeing happen is real.
It's real.
Now, there might be some You know, hidden motives, sure, obviously, right?
It might not be everything's, it's not that everybody's saying everything exactly what they believe and exactly how they believe it.
Like, that's not what I'm saying.
The idea that this could have been faked is ridiculous.
And one of the reasons you can tell is because it's really hard to write miscommunication.
It's something that when you see it in a movie, if you've ever...
Wes Anderson, somebody that's good at it, he'll have a conversation where two people are talking and they don't realize that both people are talking about something different, but the conversation works.
It's really hard, but it happens in real life all the time.
And that's what happened with Zelensky and Trump.
At one point, Trump is saying, you're not going to tell us how to feel.
I think he sort of misheard what Zelensky said.
There were these little...
Instances of miscommunication.
They didn't quite hear what each other were saying.
They're interrupting each other, talking over each other.
What I'm trying to emphasize here is what we're seeing is real.
What we're seeing really is a global scheme unraveling.
A global plot for world domination of instigating World War III and using that to usher in The Antichrist and Central Bank Digital Currencies total universal slave prison planet.
That is the plan and it's being interrupted.
And that's real.
And we want you fighting on behalf of humanity in this fight.
But it seems like half the people that respond to me on X think they're on the side of humanity and then spend all of their time tearing down the very people who are achieving these massive victories.
What's happening is real.
There are a lot of hidden motives.
There are a lot of secret agreements.
I'm not discounting that.
People are really going to jail for this.
Not everything is fake.
Not everything is a fraud.
It's okay to win sometimes.
It's okay to have victory.
It's okay to celebrate it.
I don't know what's gotten into people.
I started a collection today because it's sort of exhausting at this point where it doesn't matter what you're talking about or what you've achieved.
There's always going to be people that are supposedly on our side who are pissed that you're not saying things just like them.
And I guess I should just ignore it.
But again, I don't think it's as...
I think it's very widespread.
I think there's a lot of people that are just totally disillusioned in the whole thing now.
And they're like, oh, Trump is winning.
That's because they wanted him to win.
And this is all just a trick to sucker you into going along with the plan overall.
They wanted war with Russia.
They've killed a million people.
You have to understand how real this is.
These are the people that launched COVID. That killed...
God only knows how many millions of people who brought the world to the brink of total, absolute destruction with the collapse of the food supply system.
Now, all this was based on a fraud.
It was all based on a fabrication.
But the effects are real.
The lockdown was real.
The masks were real.
Vaccine wasn't a vaccine.
They really did inject something into your arm and it really did cause you to get a heart attack like...
This is all real.
The war is real.
The Ukraine war was always meant to accelerate and expand into World War III. And these plans have been in place for a very long time.
And this is what the first impeachment was about because Donald Trump got close to unraveling this whole fetid, tangled mess of insanity centralized in Ukraine.
Just so many different reasons for why it happens to be the heartland of this attack against humanity.
And so what we saw there, I mean, it's like, you know, maybe it's not even worth talking about, but, you know, it's like I post this image of the moon lander that just landed.
private company from Texas, landed on the moon.
And I have people on X being like, you're still falling for this?
And it's like, do you think, do you really think that for the last 70 years there's been entire industries all day, every day for 70 years straight have been pretending to go into space?
I mean, this is not, why would they still be doing it?
Why would they still be pretending?
Doesn't make any sense.
Some things are real, folks.
I don't blame people because so much has been faked.
So much is questionable that I get the impulse to question it.
Question it, but then when you find out it's real, accept that it's real and help to fight back against the onslaught by contributing to the real people doing real things.
They're really starting to start World War III. I have so many calls.
I shouldn't even be talking here.
Let's go to some videos here.
And let's just lay the groundwork with clip number 19. Again, we've heard this type of stuff so much over the recent past, but most of the time we play a video of people recounting what has happened in Ukraine.
We're going to do something else this time.
We're going to go back to a video of John Mearsheimer.
A decade before this happened, explaining what's going to happen, predicting the fact that Ukraine is going to be used as a wedge for war with Russia.
He predicts it all because this was always the plan.
Because I think the most important thing to get across to people is the holistic understanding that what's happening in Ukraine is not as it seems.
And all these poor suckers out there in America.
We think that Ukraine is this plucky little republic standing up against an autocrat bearing down on them.
You could not be more wrong.
And this whole thing has been a gigantic fraud from the beginning instigated by us.
If you want to feel bad for Ukraine, feel bad that it fell for the lies of the Clintons and the Bidens and the Obamas.
That, yeah, we'll have your back.
You go to war with Russia and you'll win because we'll have your back.
I feel bad for him for that, but understand that this whole war has been predicated on lies, was started by us, and has absolutely nothing to do with authoritarianism versus freedom, democracy versus totalitarianism.
Could not be farther from the truth.
The real concerns are very, in one part, mundane.
They want the mineral rights.
They want control.
They want to...
Make a ton of money by wiping out the infrastructure and then rebuilding it.
But another part is massive and global and restructuring humanity itself.
The Third World War was supposed to be the final act of the Great Reset.
It was all supposed to be centered around Ukraine.
Here's John Mearsheimer a decade ago predicting all of this.
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What's going on here is that the West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path.
And the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked.
And I believe that the policy that I'm advocating, which is neutralizing Ukraine and then building it up economically and getting it out of the competition between Russia on one side and NATO on the other side, is the best thing that could happen to the Ukrainians.
What we're doing is encouraging the Ukrainians to play tough with the Russians.
We're encouraging...
The Ukrainians to think that they will ultimately become part of the West because we will ultimately defeat Putin and we will ultimately get our way.
Time is on our side.
And of course, the Ukrainians are playing along with this and the Ukrainians are almost completely unwilling to compromise with the Russians and instead want to pursue a hardline policy.
Well, as I said to you before, if they do that, the end result is that their country is going to be wrecked.
And what we're doing is, in effect, encouraging that outcome.
I think it would make much more sense for us to work to create a neutral Ukraine.
It would be in our interest to bury this crisis as quickly as possible.
It certainly would be in Russia's interest to do so.
And most importantly...
It would be in Ukraine's interest to put an end to the crisis.
harrison smith
So I was back in 2015 that he made that speech.
Of course, 2014 was when the invasion originally began.
Remember in the run-up to the war in Ukraine, there were weapons transfers that Trump stopped and said, well, before we send these weapons, let's look into what's going on in Ukraine because we've heard some rumors about some corruption there.
And it was that interest he took in Ukraine and questions he had about Why we were arming them so severely that inspired his first impeachment, which was, and we said this at the time, a defensive move.
During the first impeachment trial, we told you if you were watching InfoWars, this is a defensive move trying to stop Trump from uncovering the very tangled web of corruption and war taking place in Ukraine.
And we told you that at the time.
Then, of course, for Trump's entire administration, there's the demonization of Russia, Russian collusion, right?
All of this very carefully designed to stop him from getting closer to Russia, from again preventing the outbreak of war.
And we've talked endlessly about things like the interview with Putin and Tucker, where Putin is talking about, oh, I've asked presidents to...
Would you be on friendly terms and allies with Russia?
And the presidents always say, yeah, great idea.
Of course, there's no reason Russia, we should be enemies with Russia.
You're not communist anymore.
Let's be friends.
And then the men in gray suits come in and say, no, that's not happening.
Why?
Because they need an opponent.
Because they live on war.
Because the beast system, the enemy, thrives on war.
Their diet is war.
Without war...
They don't have a reason to exist.
They don't have a reason to steal trillions of our dollars.
They don't have an excuse to censor us.
They need wars.
They need an opponent.
They need an enemy to go to war with.
In this case, it was Russia.
This is some breaking news here.
Trump to discuss halting U.S. military aid to Ukraine.
President Trump is expected to discuss halting military aid to Ukraine in a meeting with key advisors on Monday, according to reports.
The discussions followed the unprecedented Oval Office spat between Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky, which quickly devolved into a shouting match after J.D. Vance got involved.
Newsweek reporting this very dishonestly.
Later that day, the Trump administration official argued all U.S. aid to Ukraine, including ammunition and equipment authorized that had already been agreed upon and paid for by the Biden administration should be canceled, the Telegraph reports.
Now the Trump administration official says Trump might stop all military aid, which includes intelligence sharing.
We'll be right back.
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harrison smith
At the 10 o'clock hour, we will be joined in studio by Stuart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers, former political prisoner and receiver of a pardon or at least a commutation from President Trump.
We're going to continue to talk about the rising specter of World War III.
in this segment.
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Now, back to World War III. Back to...
What we're dealing with here.
Some bad news.
It's some bad news for Zelensky.
Again, this just dropped from Newsweek.
Trump to discuss halting U.S. military aid to Ukraine.
And I wonder if this wasn't maybe in response to this story from the AP where Zelensky says it's going to be a very long time before we end this war.
Zelensky says end of war with Russia is very, very far away.
Very, very far away.
Well, it could have been over basically as soon as it began with the agreement in Istanbul that Western powers, including Boris Johnson, helped to scuttle and prevent from going through.
A deal to end the war between Ukraine and Russia is still very, very far away.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky...
Said, adding that he expects to keep receiving American support despite his recent fraught relations with U.S. President Donald Trump, saying, quote, I think our relationship with the U.S. will continue because it's more than an occasional relationship, Zelensky said Sunday, referring to Washington's support for the past three years of war.
I believe Ukraine has strong enough partnership with the United States of America to keep aid flowing, he said at a briefing in Ukrainian before leaving London.
Again, this sort of goes some way to explain the overconfidence that was on display on Friday.
See, he's meeting in secret and in violation of the Logan Act with Democratic senators who are telling him, don't worry about Trump.
We're in charge.
We'll keep the stuff flowing to you.
Trump can rattle his saber and beat his chest, but we'll make sure that you get the support that you need.
And of course, they tried to Trump-proof Ukrainian aid by guaranteeing it for several decades, long enough to...
Outlast the Trump administration.
Maybe Zelensky bought that.
Maybe this was another ill-advised act of overconfidence.
Chutzpah, in other words.
Of somebody who does not have any negotiation weight.
Has nothing to offer.
Has nothing to hold over anybody else.
Has no advantage on this.
And yet, acts like...
He's the big dog in the room, and we have to do what he says.
So I wonder if it wasn't that statement, like Trump wakes up and sees Zelensky being like, yeah, I don't have to worry about it.
We're still going to receive support.
It doesn't matter what Trump says.
We're going to keep fighting this war, and peace is a very long way away.
And so Trump is now discussing halting U.S. military aid to Ukraine, all of it.
He is now threatening to end all of it, and I think he should.
He is reportedly set to meet senior advisors including Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth on Monday to discuss canceling this aid.
And basically, if Zelensky doesn't want to make concessions, doesn't want to recognize the reality of his situation, doesn't want to play this little card game he's engaged in with the rules of the table and his own poker chips, then...
He can do it on his own.
And that was the emergency meeting that happened in London.
We can actually go to clip number 22 here and just play his B-roll.
This is the meeting that took place.
The emergency meeting that took place with all the European partners gathering in the UK, trying to scramble to figure out how to keep this little war going and have it expand even farther.
And remember, Biden did everything he could to try to aggravate Russia into Expanding the war and launching nuclear missiles.
Time and time again, there were situations where he says, well, sending jets to Ukraine, that would be the beginning of World War III. And then they do it.
Bombing deep inside Russia, that would be a terrible thing to do.
That would really give them the right to attack Ukraine in an even more aggressive way and could also lead to the expanding of the war.
And then that happened.
Then they released the advanced missiles.
For hitting inside Russia.
Now that Trump has put his foot down, he's already done so much to stop the onrush towards World War III, but now after this meeting with Zelensky, it appears as though Ukraine is going even further.
We have an absolutely incredible video here of a Ukrainian missile being intercepted by a Russian defense missile.
Clip number 13, this is Russia's pants here.
Intercepting a Ukrainian kamikaze drone over a residential neighborhood in Smolensk, Russia.
So they're now bombing residential neighborhoods.
Luckily, Russia was able to stop this missile.
But, I mean, take a look at this video.
Let's watch.
Here you can hear it rushing.
And look at the speed this thing is traveling at.
And there it's intercepted.
I mean, just an incredible...
I've never seen anything like this.
I mean, we see intercepts from, you know, miles away, but I've never seen anything where you see the detail of the light from the kamikaze drone, you know, lighting up the ground beneath it as it flies.
Just kind of shocking stuff.
But that shows that Ukraine is, of course, getting even more reckless in its bombing of Russian civilians, again, to try to piss off Russia and expand the war even more because this has always been about starting World War III. Now...
Other NATO members are talking about getting boots on the ground in Russia or in Ukraine to fight directly with Russia.
UK Prime Minister lays out Ukraine peace deal framework as Zelensky responds to resignation calls.
Zelensky says he's still willing to sign a rare earth mineral deal with Trump.
British Prime Minister Keir Starmer met with Zelensky and then made this statement afterwards.
Clip number 15. Here's Keir Starmer saying he wants UK boots on the ground and planes in the air.
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First, we will keep the military aid flowing and keep increasing the economic pressure on Russia to strengthen Ukraine now.
Second, we agreed that any lasting peace must ensure Ukraine's sovereignty and security.
And Ukraine must be at the table.
Third, in the event of a peace deal...
We will keep boosting Ukraine's own defensive capabilities to deter any future invasion.
Fourth, we will go further to develop a coalition of the willing to defend a deal in Ukraine and to guarantee the peace.
Not every nation will feel able to contribute, but that can't mean that we sit back.
Instead, those willing will intensify planning now.
With real urgency.
The UK is prepared to back this with boots on the ground and planes in the air.
Together with others, Europe must do the heavy listing.
But to support peace in our continent and to succeed, this effort must have strong US backing.
We're working with the US on this point after my meeting with President Trump last week.
And let me be clear.
We agree with the President on the urgent need for a durable peace.
Now, we need to deliver together.
Finally, we agreed that leaders will meet again very soon to keep the pace behind these actions and to keep working towards this shared plan.
We are at a crossroads in history today.
This is not a moment for more talk.
It's time to act.
Time to step up and lead and to unite around a new plan for a just and enduring peace.
Thank you.
harrison smith
Now is not the time for talk.
It's time for action.
We're going to boots on the ground, planes in the air, a coalition of the willing.
This is delusional.
And again, the takeaway you have to understand.
Is it the people that are running the UK right now, and Ukraine right now, and France, and Germany, and all these other places?
They're the enemy.
They're at war with Europe.
And they're interested in using this conflict between Russia and Europe to accelerate the collapse of their own countries that they are 100% responsible for.
And when you really understand that, when you really just don't listen to what they say but look at what the reality is, then look at what they say.
What they're saying is absurd.
It's all absurd.
I mean, think about the fact that he says we're going to keep the military aid flowing when they've provided very little military aid at all, the vast majority.
It comes from America.
For all of NATO, over half of NATO contributions come from us.
99% of what's gone to Ukraine has been through us.
But okay, they're going to keep the military aid flowing.
Great, good luck with that.
They need to keep up the economic pressure on Russia.
Again, the sanctions against Russia have done nothing to diminish Russia's economic power.
Russia is doing better economically now than they were before the war began.
There is no economic pressure against Russia.
The economic sanctions that they're imposing on Russia have destroyed their own countries.
The rising price of fuel has obliterated European industry.
Everything they say is inverted.
They have no ability to project military...
Pressure or send military aid.
They don't have any, so there's nothing to send.
There is no economic pressure against Russia.
Russia benefits every time they try one of these schemes, and Europe itself pays the price and has been severely damaged from this.
He says we have to preserve Ukraine's sovereignty and security.
Okay.
Everything we've seen...
In the past two years has shown that Ukraine is not even remotely sovereign.
They can't sign their own peace deals without NATO interrupting and stopping them from doing it.
They tried to make a deal with Russia as opposed to the EU, and that's when the coup was performed.
So they haven't been sovereign in any sense since at least 2014, when their sovereign, duly elected government was overthrown and ousted because they were friendly with Putin.
So they're not sovereign, and they are obviously not secure because there's a giant war going on, and a million of them have died.
So it's just like when you understand fully, like we could go through piece by piece, but it's like just zoom out and just understand.
These are psychotic vampires that are systematically tearing down Europe.
The people, the institutions, the nations themselves, they're destroying their industry, they're destroying their populations.
Predicated on this Ponzi scheme of Social Security that they adopted, as we did here in America.
They had to bring in all the migrants to uphold that.
I mean, just understand, they are systematically destroying Europe.
And World War III was supposed to be sort of the final bow, the final twist of the knife in Europe's back.
Now, UK even talking like this at all is absurd.
As this independent article notes, 20,000 troops, We have only 25 main battle tanks working at best.
When news of the UK would be at the front of the queue to provide troops for a Ukraine peacekeeping force, possibly as many as 20,000, a contract from Army headquarters at Andover messaged me, where is this 20,000 figure coming from?
Who's briefing this?
We couldn't do this in a month of Sundays.
The next few years saw this offer drop from 10,000 to 12,000 troops for the assisted for the as of yet unspecified ground force.
But the panic amongst the Army planners was the same.
There have been no requirements for such a deployment.
The Army is not set up for such numbers and has not been funded to do so.
See, I don't know.
I don't know how else to put it.
It's not that Europe is being systematically destroyed.
It's that it has been systematically destroyed.
They do not have the capability to defend themselves.
Their lifestyle and all of their...
Smug superiority about free healthcare and we don't have to have guns on our streets, right?
It's all because of American military muscle.
It's 100% they're able to live this retirement home lifestyle because America has provided the muscle and the defense for them, which was always a bad deal for us and for them, but it was never meant to benefit them or us.
It was meant to benefit the powers that be who...
Needed, you know, America as the muscle to carry out the, you know, destruction of the enemies of the New World Order.
So, they only have 25 tanks working at all.
Plus, they have, again, flooded their country with tens of millions of foreigners.
So, they can't even defend the UK from a dinghy full of rapists.
Alright?
They're not going to be able to defend Ukraine against Russia.
Even if they did, what white British person could possibly, you know, would possibly sign up for this?
And it's like, you know, I just have seen people saying all this stuff on X going, yeah, don't worry, you know, white British guys, you go over and die in a field in Ukraine and all the Muslims you brought over, they'll make sure that your wives and children are looked after after you're gone.
Just understand, they are doing everything they can to destroy Europe and the European man, basically.
And this is all part of it.
And let's just go to clip number two here.
Here's a British mercenary in Ukraine who finally was able to escape the folly that he'd let himself be led into and finally found Russians to seek safety with.
Here's his interview about what it's like being a Brit on the front lines in Ukraine.
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I wanted to break contract at that minute.
The money is shit and your chain of command don't care about you.
They do not care.
They will use you as meat.
They'll say you'll be on a listening post for three to five days.
They'll keep you there for ten and then send you to a different position.
I, point blank, refused to go to a different position.
There was no information.
We didn't have the equipment.
Fuck off.
Another bloke died because of drones and stuff.
One bloke ran away.
I stayed behind and, like, just took cover.
I ended up getting grenaded again.
Not by Russians.
I believe it was by Ukrainians.
By a drone.
Believe it or not.
At that point, I decided to find a bunker.
And I hid in that bunker for nearly two months.
A great man from South Africa.
Dead.
Left in a wooden box in the middle of Tureksk.
The body was, like, 50 metres from my bunker.
So I was out looking for food.
As I did every day, about 9 a.m.
I heard a drone, so I got straight in a building, and I seen another guy.
He was out of breath.
He was running.
I was like, quick, in here, in here.
I knew he was rushing, like, uniform.
I only realized I wasn't a threat.
The weapon was down.
He gave me a cigarette.
Literally carried me into safety out of the way of all the drones and artillery that was coming in.
If you come to Ukraine and you're a foreigner, With me being an exception, the rest of you will get killed.
Everyone will die.
And it's not pretty.
It's not nice.
And Ukraine won't care about it.
Yeah.
harrison smith
And of course, your government doesn't care about you.
They're literally attacking.
They're flooding your neighborhood with foreigners.
And of course, they don't...
The reason they want to protect Ukraine anyway is not valid, and we've been over.
The reasons they claim are ridiculous.
Democracy in a place where they don't hold elections and all the former opposition MPs are all rotting away in prison.
But there's other motives from the UK. From Usman Noor on X. In case anybody is stupid enough to think that the UK's support for Ukraine is about their freedom, on the 16th of January of this year, the UK and Ukraine pinned a 100-year partnership agreement for deals in Ukraine's energy, mineral, and military sectors.
The UK wants a slice of the Ukraine cake.
Now, of course, this was partly in response to the inauguration of Trump, trying to, again, Trump-proof support from And of course,
Ukraine already has contracts with Goldman Sachs to rebuild Ukraine after the destruction.
They already have deals with NGOs to replace all of the people who have either been killed or fled from Ukraine.
All of the men that have been dragged into vans and hauled off to die on the front line will all be replaced by Africans just as soon as the war is over and the inflow can begin.
Military-age men right now are prevented from leaving the Ukraine.
They are prisoners in their own country.
And video after video still coming out to this day have been like walking their dogs on the street.
When a van pulls up, they are bundled away, kidnapped, and sent to the front line to die.
And, of course, they're trying to start World War III to expand it and maximize this.
They want this continent-wide because they get everything they want with war.
They get all the death, murder, and population replacement they could dream of.
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I'm now going to be speaking in English because, unfortunately, we're in the center of Portugal.
And if we speak Portuguese, most people don't understand us.
That's how unfortunate the situation is.
Here in the center of Portugal, in Lisbon, most people around us are not even Portuguese.
And that's why I need to now speak in English.
Because we are so invaded and so ignored.
Our interests are so ignored and so frowned upon that here in the center.
This is Portugal, Lisbon.
I have nothing against the immigrants or the tourists, but we want a country of our own.
We don't want to be crossing every street corner thinking if we're going to be safe or not due to the immigration from the third world.
We don't want to look around us and try to find a Portuguese restaurant because there's nothing but Indian restaurants or Nepal restaurants.
We don't want this future.
We don't want this scenario where 25% of the population living in Portugal is already from a foreign country, from a foreign origin.
We don't want to accept the multiculturalism that they have been forcing down our throats with censorship and propaganda and hating and criticizing and destroying the lives of anyone who goes against it.
We don't accept this future.
We, the proud Portuguese people, we are here to say to all of the immigrants and tourists that we have nothing against them, but we don't want to accept this future where we are a minority in our own capital city.
We don't accept it.
We don't accept that.
It's not in our interest.
So everyone must understand this, that the current Portuguese government...
Is ruling with 27 or 28...
27 or 28% of the votes.
And they rule over our country with 27 or 28% of the people voting for them.
But actually, 67% of people in a recent study came out against pass immigration.
So if a government can rule a country undisputed with 27%, then why can't the people whose majority doesn't want immigration, why can't the people have their will be respected?
Because we live in a farce, we live in a simulation, we live in a simulation of democracy, where the interests of our people are not really respected as long as they don't conform to the interests of the globalist elite.
The interests of our people, it's all well and good until it crosses the line where our people demand sovereignty and demand the future of their own.
When we cross that line, then our interests are something worthy of radicals, something worthy of racist lunatics.
That's the current situation.
And we reject that.
We reject that.
The liberal elites of Lisbon...
May laugh down on us, but they have always laughed down on the Portuguese people as a whole.
The Portuguese people do not accept this future and this destiny.
When our old women are murdered every week, not once a year, not once every five years, every week, there's old women murdered in our streets from immigrants.
There's young women being raped.
Rape to death by immigrants that we have accepted into our country.
Immigrants that we have welcomed with our long overdue tolerance and sympathy.
These immigrants are causing this chaos.
And we do not accept this future where our youth needs to go to France or the United Kingdom to work because people come here from Brazil and India to take our jobs off of us.
harrison smith
We do not accept the future where our people don't have a- All right, folks, that is an activist named Alfonso Goncalves in Portugal.
You can find that video on my ex at Harrison H. Smith.
I went ahead and retweeted it.
Because it's every European country.
It's every European capital or major city now.
The top number one name for babies is Mohamed.
Every single one of them.
There should be people in every single city giving speeches just like that.
Alfonso Goncalves.
Powerful stuff.
Stuart Rhodes with us.
We've got an in-studio guest that I'm just so happy to have here with us.
Not just in the M4Ware studio, but in the free world.
It is, of course, Stuart Rhodes.
And you can find his give-send go there on the screen.
Stuart Rhodes is, of course, the founder of the Oath Keepers.
And he was recently released from federal prison just over a month ago after being wrongfully charged for seditious conspiracy on January 6th.
Trump thankfully put a stop to the madness by commuting his sentence on his first day back in office.
And he joins us live in studio today.
Stuart, welcome back, sir.
stewart rhodes
Good to be here, brother.
Good to see you again.
harrison smith
It's so great to see you.
I mean, just what has it been like since your release?
stewart rhodes
It's been a whirlwind, having stopped running, you know, just hit the ground running, and it's been kind of crazy.
It's been very surreal.
harrison smith
I can only imagine.
And obviously everybody from January 6th, in my view, got a raw deal, but maybe it was only because I covered yours so closely or I watched yours so closely, but it had to be the most outrageous thing I've ever seen in American law.
I mean, we covered it, you know, ad nauseum here, but...
It was so infuriating seeing what they did to you and seeing the way they were putting you away for decades.
You were never even there in the Capitol at all.
Unspoken conspiracy.
We could go down the list.
Did you think this was going to happen?
To me, it was always like, I hope it happens, but I'm not about to be disappointed.
I'm just going to assume that it's never going to happen.
How did you feel running up to the commutation?
stewart rhodes
Well, I mean, we all knew that if President Trump got in, he was going to keep his word.
You know, 14 of us were commuted, not pardoned.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
Which I believe we should all be pardoned.
So all of us that are commuted only are either Oath Keepers or Proud Boys.
Joe Biggs is in that group, Dominic Pozzola, all my co-defendants.
So we all need to be pardoned also because we're right now a second-class citizen still.
But we're very grateful not to be behind prison walls.
Yeah, absolutely.
harrison smith
I can only imagine.
So why is there no pardon?
Do you know?
Have you gotten any clarity on that?
stewart rhodes
I don't really know.
I'm going to suppose that's probably the lawyers around President Trump advising him that for some reason he needs to leave these 14 out as commutations for now.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
And he said himself they'll be going through them case by case.
I'm not sure what prompted that.
It's kind of weird because two of the Oath Keepers who completely bitched out and helped the government.
They got pardons.
harrison smith
They got pardons, right.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, really strange.
They pled guilty to a seditious conspiracy, signed on to a stack of lies, were ready to falsely testify.
They never put them on the stand, I think, because they probably realized that if they got on the stand, they might break down and look at us in the eye and tell the truth.
But they furthered the narrative.
So they furthered the false narrative by doing that, and they received pardons.
harrison smith
Well, and of course, you know, talking to you during the trial and everything...
You always were very clear that this is to get Trump.
They're going after us because they want to pressure us to go after Trump.
stewart rhodes
Sure.
I know Enrique Tarrio was in the same boat I'm in.
I was at the top of the pyramid of the Oath Keepers.
He was at the top of the pyramid of the Proud Boys.
The only person we could have made a deal against would have been President Trump himself.
And neither one of us were willing to do that.
harrison smith
And you were willing to pay the price for it, which is just unbelievable.
And I think I asked you...
When you were first out, like, is there any inclination to just go lay on a beach in Hawaii?
I mean, is there any inclination to go, you know what?
I did my part.
They tried to send me to jail for two decades.
I'm out.
I mean, what are you doing back in the M4 studio and not, you know, in Maui?
stewart rhodes
It's my duty, man.
So, you know, I'm still fighting the fight.
So I'm working for Condemned USA. They helped me when I was a political prisoner.
And now it's my job to, you know, carry it forward and help other people.
So Tina Peters, for example, that needs to be removed to federal court.
So we're working on an amicus brief in support of that.
So there's no end, unfortunately, no end to the victims of lawfare that are still out there.
harrison smith
Yeah, and luckily, I know...
Jeremy Brown got released on Friday, but it took a lot of effort and, you know, pushing to get him.
And so they're still trying to, you know, mess with you guys in one way or another.
I guess, yeah, tell me right now, because I didn't have any information.
Like, how can people support you, or what are you doing now, and how can they support these?
stewart rhodes
Well, so Condemned USA, go to condemnedusa.com.
I would definitely, it's a worthy cause.
Look at it like this.
If the ACLU will protect the left, but not us, who are you going to turn to?
And so it condemned us a pretty good job of finding good patriot lawyers that will help people.
harrison smith
It's like a version of the ACLU that actually protects rights.
That's what a novel idea.
unidentified
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
They didn't say a peep about us being put behind bars for solitary confinement.
I was in solitary confinement for over a year.
harrison smith
Oh, my God.
stewart rhodes
ACLU is nowhere to be found.
harrison smith
They're AWOL. So tell me about that.
I mean, how has prison changed you?
I mean, I can't imagine.
Well, frankly, I just can't imagine being in solitary confinement for a year.
I can't imagine what that.
Does to you, or what effect it's had?
stewart rhodes
Well, you know, thankfully, I'm not claustrophobic, so thankfully for that.
I can imagine if a guy was claustrophobic, he would drive him crazy.
But it's meant to try to break you, but I always looked at it.
I know Jeremy feels the same way.
Adam McKellop and other guys have talked about it.
And we saw ourselves as prisoners of war.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
So I'm not going to give the enemy the satisfaction in breaking me.
It's not going to happen.
harrison smith
Right.
And I know, probably the other guy I talked to who goes to prison comes out...
Even more convicted in their faith.
Have you been the same way?
stewart rhodes
Absolutely.
Yeah, I know and I think it proved out that what man means for evil, God will use for good.
Just as, you know, Joseph was sold into slavery by his brothers, that was used for the good.
He was falsely accused by his master's wife.
Remember that part?
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, she accused him of raping her when he wouldn't sleep with her.
So, you know, all of it, I think our walk has been very much the same, very similar thing.
President Trump, same with him.
Everything they used against him and tried to use against him for evil was turned to good.
When I shot him, you know?
harrison smith
Yeah.
So what's your read on Trump so far?
You know, obviously...
stewart rhodes
That's when he won the election.
That's why I got this tattoo.
harrison smith
Oh, nice.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Oh, it's got the red on it, too.
stewart rhodes
I got that in prison.
harrison smith
Oh, that's super cool.
We'll have to get the dot cam on that.
Yeah, that's awesome.
It says fight underneath.
Yeah.
Wow.
stewart rhodes
That's when he won the election.
I mean, he was probably going to win anyway, but that's when he really put the nail in the coffin.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah.
stewart rhodes
Because he reacts like a man, you know?
So all the men in my unit all cheered for him.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
Black, Hispanic, white, they're all like, Trump's an OG. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
harrison smith
He's a real dude, for sure.
stewart rhodes
Yeah.
harrison smith
Yeah, and I've seen that with the Zelensky meeting last Friday.
I was saying earlier, it's like my favorite outcome of that has been watching the black streamers on TikTok and stuff are just like, I didn't realize Trump's a gangsta like that.
Because there's something to that where it's like...
Especially in the black community from, you know, where I grew up and stuff, you know, there's like, there's an honor code there and there's a, you know, a very high...
stewart rhodes
There's a manhood code.
harrison smith
There's a manhood code.
You don't disrespect people.
You don't come into my house and talk to me that way.
And it's like, we need more of that.
That basic just sort of manliness in American politics is what's been missing for this whole time.
stewart rhodes
Yeah.
And he displayed it.
He can't fake that.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
So you have to go back to like, you know, Andrew Jackson.
Or Teddy Roosevelt or George Washington for that kind of calmness under fire, you know?
harrison smith
Yeah, somebody asked on X there saying, you know, if every U.S. president was in a big wrestling match, you know, Royal Rumble type thing, who do you think would come out on top?
And I said, I don't know who would come out on top, but probably it wouldn't be anybody in the last hundred years, right?
I don't think, you know, Jimmy Carter.
Well, maybe, I don't know.
stewart rhodes
Jimmy Carter?
harrison smith
Well, maybe not Jimmy Carter, who's the Gerald Ford.
He played football.
So, you know.
Maybe he's alright, but no, back in the day you had Andrew Jackson and even Abraham Lincoln never lost a wrestling match.
I mean, there used to be...
And there's something to that, right?
In Rome, you weren't allowed to become a politician until you'd served in the army.
How different would it be if everybody who was a politician had actually physically killed somebody with a sword in hand-to-hand combat?
Because this is a thousand years ago.
There's something about that mentality.
That makes people able to actually deal with the real world in a way that I think people who have never been in a fight couldn't even comprehend.
stewart rhodes
It helps.
But, you know, look at Trump.
He grew up wealthy, but he's got a warrior's heart.
He reacted like a man.
He stood up and he was pissed.
His reaction was being outraged that someone would dare take a shot at him.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
And he had a good presence of mind.
harrison smith
I know, I can't imagine.
And also, you know...
I can imagine for him, he doesn't know that he just got nicked.
He might have been thinking, this is the last thing I say.
Because when you get shot, sometimes people don't realize they're even shot until afterwards with the adrenaline rushing.
So that's what I always think when I see him say, fight, fight, fight.
He could be sitting there thinking, I got a bullet in my head, and this is the last thing I say to the American people.
And that was the message he chose to send.
stewart rhodes
Good point, good point.
harrison smith
It's powerful stuff.
So what's your grade on his new administration?
stewart rhodes
Well, I give them an A so far.
I mean, I'd like to see it go a little faster.
harrison smith
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
stewart rhodes
You know, because I advocated for mass declassification and mass exposure of the elites.
I still think that's the right answer.
So they're starting to begin, you know, the process of doing that, which is great.
But the problem is, the slower you take to do it, the more evidence will be destroyed.
harrison smith
Absolutely.
stewart rhodes
They're going to be destroying files like crazy now.
harrison smith
And clearly they are.
Here's the latest update with...
The debacle last week.
Pam Bondi gives Epstein file update.
FBI officials who withheld documents will not be working for us anymore.
So there you go.
Take that.
There you go.
You're going to have to collect unemployment for the next year and go on vacation.
I mean, are you sick of this?
I'm sick of this.
They should be fired.
They should be investigated.
They should be imprisoned.
We have to start treating these people with the seriousness they deserve.
What's your take on the way this all went down?
stewart rhodes
Yeah, I mean, it's no surprise that they slow walked it and, you know, did a limited hangout.
That's what they're going to do.
And they're still entrenched.
You've got to purge them out.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
So top to bottom.
And frankly, the FBI and the CIA shouldn't exist anymore.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
They've both been nothing but corrupt tools of the deep state from the very beginning.
Yeah.
harrison smith
And you experienced that, of course, firsthand.
stewart rhodes
Well, we saw it long before that.
You've got Cointelpro, go back to Ruby Ridge, Waco, you know, the list goes on.
harrison smith
Yeah, of course.
I always bring up the fact that you sort of first came to prominence with your article talking about 10 orders that you shouldn't follow.
And I think that's a lesson that we should have been learning the last decade, but I think people need to learn now more than ever.
Does that still run through your mind?
stewart rhodes
Sure.
I mean, it's important for Americans to...
I think what's great about what they did...
I think others have said this, is that this term is much stronger than Trump would have been if he had been recognized as the rightful, which he won the election in 2020. Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah.
But he's stronger now.
Now he's got a better team.
He has more awareness.
The gloves have come off.
The bad guys are taking the mask off and showing us who they are.
It's much easier to identify your targets now.
But I do want to see prosecutions.
Absolutely.
harrison smith
I do, too.
And here's the thing that scares me, is that if we don't do enough...
I think we have less than four years.
We have two years until the midterms.
And if they get control of the Congress and Senate, it's going to be nothing but impeachment and nonsense for the latter half of his administration.
So it's like, if we don't do enough to make sure that they don't get back in power, you see how they treated you, how they treated so many January Sixers.
I mean, they were brutal and vicious before.
Now that Trump is going after them.
I think if the Democrats ever get in power again, it's going to be, I mean, it's going to be FEMA camps, and it's going to be terrible, right?
So, like, what do we need to do in the next two years to make sure that- Utterly defeat them?
Utterly defeat them?
Just crush them into dirt?
I'm right there with you.
So what do we do to achieve that?
stewart rhodes
It's like Travis Evans said to me when I first, he was the founder of Condemned USA. Yeah.
I first saw him outside the D.C. jail.
He said, hey, we've taken the high ground, you know, Trump won the election, but now we've got to drive him into the sea.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
That's the best way to put it.
harrison smith
I think that's right.
stewart rhodes
Purge them out.
Exposure and purge.
Exposure and purge.
Exposure, purge and prosecute.
harrison smith
I think that's key because even though we love what Trump is doing, I go to the mainstream media and I see the way that it's being portrayed and I wonder if Trump or if we're doing enough to get across the message.
I actually have a video.
It's a woman who's running for mayor of some city, and she's going, I'm going to, if you vote for me, I'm going to release all the black people from prison, just like Trump did with January 6th.
And it's like, they think this was like a racial thing, or they think it was, they don't understand the reason why Trump would release all you guys.
And so, like, what do we need to do to get across the message?
Like, no, what's happening here is in service of justice, and in service of fairness, and it's undoing criminal activity in the past.
stewart rhodes
Well, that's why it's important to advocate for not just J6 justice, but for the whole corrupt system.
Because the same railroading that we got has been done to other people before.
I was in prison with guys that were railroaded, various different examples.
I'll give you two.
So one was an 18-year-old kid who wanted to be an Army Ranger, so he bought an AR-15, went to his local range, bought a membership of the range.
An outdoor range to go shoot in practice.
One of the people that worked there decided he looks like an extremist, so they call the FBI, and the FBI sends in a tatted-up ex-Hells Angel guy, claimed to be an ex-Hells Angel, with all kinds of cool guns.
He becomes his shooting buddy, befriends the kid, and he looks up to this guy as like an older brother, even a father figure, right?
So eventually he's like, oh, wouldn't it be cool to have real full auto?
You know, he tricks him into, he talks him into buying an auto seer for an AR-15, and he's sworn by 30 agents.
harrison smith
It was all set up.
stewart rhodes
And now he's doing eight years in prison.
So how's that a good outcome for our country?
This is a kid that wanted to go in the military.
It's what he wanted to do.
Now he hates the United States.
He wants to immigrate to Russia.
He wants to go someplace else.
That's what he wants to do.
harrison smith
And that's like the vast majority of what the FBI has been up to for the last couple decades.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, and trapping people.
So people that otherwise wouldn't violate any crimes, they go and manufacture crimes and talk them into committing them so they can put them in prison.
harrison smith
Yeah.
And this is another place where I'm sort of torn because it's like, I do want there to be a Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Well, I don't want the FBI to exist as it is, but like...
stewart rhodes
We got along just fine before the FBI came along.
I mean, the founding fathers didn't have the FBI. Yeah, I guess that's true.
harrison smith
I guess that's true.
stewart rhodes
All the way up through American history until what year?
1938, 9?
When was it?
harrison smith
Yeah, maybe even been later in that, right?
Because I know the OSS was still operating, so the CIA wasn't there until afterwards.
stewart rhodes
So, 48 was the CIA, right?
harrison smith
Yeah, I think so, right?
Because, yeah, that was when the OSS transformed.
So, yeah, yeah, I guess you're right.
I mean, they don't, I just, you know.
The idea of having a federal bureau that can go after, you know, trans-state criminals or, you know, after cartel members.
stewart rhodes
But they don't.
harrison smith
Exactly, but they don't, right.
stewart rhodes
So what's the point?
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
But if they did, I'd be in favor of it, but it's like, yeah, I guess just scrap the whole thing.
Just scrap it.
stewart rhodes
You have other agents who can take care of that.
harrison smith
Texas Rangers can take care of stuff in Texas, and the Montana Rangers can take stuff in Montana.
stewart rhodes
You can still indict people.
The U.S. Marshals, go pick them up.
Why do you need the FBI? All they do is run around and trap people.
harrison smith
And spend our money.
stewart rhodes
They set on an army of thousands of paid informants to infiltrate every, the entire MAGA base is being infiltrated.
Not just so-called militia groups, but political groups too.
You know, you've seen it.
harrison smith
Yeah, absolutely.
How does this change activism for you?
Have you changed your tactics?
Again, I'm just projecting myself onto you.
If I was you, I'd be like, I'm not going out to any protests anymore.
Have you thought about that?
How was your activity?
stewart rhodes
Out of the gate, we went back and protested outside the D.C. jail.
The guys weren't out yet.
Other people were.
I did my part.
Then we went to Congress.
I was with Ivan Raiklin, a retired SF lieutenant colonel.
We went to Gus Billy Rackus' office.
That's Jeremy Brown's, his congressman.
Went to his office, met with the chief of staff, met with the congressman, along with Jeremy's mom.
Just to advocate for his release.
So I did that right out of the gate.
My judge tripped out when he saw that, though.
harrison smith
Really?
Because you went right back to the Capitol.
stewart rhodes
I didn't go in the Capitol on January the 6th.
Let's try going in the Capitol this time.
We'll see what happens.
All I did is use my free speech, just like on January the 6th.
That's all I was doing then.
But the judge saw that the media swarmed us outside the cafeteria down in the basement of the Capitol.
And we held court for an hour about COVID-19 being part of the setup, the COVID coup, election was stolen, unconstitutional, all the things that we talked about before.
I just laid it out for them.
You know, but then my judge saw that two days later, put in a new amended order for my probation and said that I can't be in D.C. or be in the Capitol.
Me or my kid.
So these are all of us that are still commuted are still under his thumb when it comes to shit like that.
harrison smith
So you still have the...
Requirements that you have to, like, check in?
unidentified
Well, we did.
harrison smith
We did.
stewart rhodes
So what happened is he threw a temper tantrum and amended those and said, in addition to no free speech and all this other stuff online, you can't come back to the Capitol.
So then Ed Martin, the new U.S. attorney for D.C., stepped in with a motion and said, you have no authority to do this, and you're not respecting President Trump's intent.
His intent is that these men be released from any obligations to report to anybody.
So then the judge backed off after that.
harrison smith
Who is this Ed Martin guy?
Because I've been seeing his name and he seems like...
stewart rhodes
Eagle Ed Martin.
harrison smith
He seems awesome.
stewart rhodes
He's a pretty good hard charger.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah, seriously.
stewart rhodes
He's definitely on our side.
harrison smith
I see him and people will tag him on Twitter going, hey, look into this.
And the next day he sees a press release going, we have looked into this.
So clearly he's very responsive to the whole movement here.
stewart rhodes
And I've heard that Catherine Rucose, who is one of my lead prosecutors, is now doing misdemeanor offenses.
She's busted down to the misdemeanor office there in D.C.
So that's interesting.
harrison smith
It's interesting.
I don't know if it's quite adequate.
stewart rhodes
By Ed Martin.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good first step.
harrison smith
Right, exactly.
stewart rhodes
I want to see her in handcuffs with little black box and belly chains.
harrison smith
Seriously?
stewart rhodes
Yeah.
harrison smith
I know.
And where is that?
Because obviously...
stewart rhodes
Because they suborn perjury.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
Two cops on the stand that light on our case.
harrison smith
They had no legitimacy for anything that they did to y'all.
So, I mean...
Just take it out of the realm of government.
I mean, they kidnapped you for multiple years and, you know, held you in torturous conditions.
So, like, any normal person would be punished for that.
These people get away with it because they, you know, wear a suit while they do it.
This is absurd.
stewart rhodes
That's the problem.
That's done not just to us but across America.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
So a lot of guys in prison that I met were there for ghost guns and ghost drugs, which means there was no actual evidence found.
Just some confidential human source takes a stand and said, I saw him with a gun or I saw him with drugs.
And that's it.
That's all they need.
harrison smith
Wow.
stewart rhodes
That's enough.
Yeah.
The judges go along with that.
And so it's suborn perjury.
And it's, you know, coach perjury.
But it's also conspiracy to commit perjury.
There's a crime being committed.
unidentified
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
And no one's being held to account.
harrison smith
And that's another thing that I know.
I know when Owen came back from prison, it's like everybody who comes back from prison is like...
We got to deal with this.
We got to deal with this problem.
You only did like a couple.
Well, I don't want to downplay what you did because I've never been to prison, so I'm not, you know, I'm no one to talk to.
stewart rhodes
I have, though, so lay it on.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah, he did a couple months, I think.
unidentified
Okay, that's cool.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah.
stewart rhodes
So he got a little experience.
harrison smith
He got a little taste.
Yeah, he got a little taste.
But there's something about it.
I mean, is it something that you have to, like, experience to really understand?
Okay.
stewart rhodes
You have to experience it.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah.
You can't just explain it and have us understand it.
I can imagine how that would be.
stewart rhodes
You have no rights.
Your rights are gone.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
And this is something most Americans don't understand.
Also, your rights are gone from the day of arrest.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
A grand jury indictment is held.
It's a grand jury that's been convened without your knowledge.
They only hear what the prosecutors say.
The prosecutors lie like crazy.
They put up with lying witnesses.
So the grand jury thinks, well, this must be true.
Right.
This person really did this.
And then they indict you.
After that, you're on the conveyor belt.
You're on the conveyor belt going through the machine.
You're being stamped and shaped and crushed the whole way into the inferno, which you're going on that belt.
Once you're on the belt, you're not going to get off that belt unless you make a deal.
That's what they want you to do.
It's a coercion machine.
So that's why they put you in solitary confinement.
I was in solitary confinement for the day of my arrest, January 13, 2022, until just let out.
But over a year, pre-trial, solitary confinement.
harrison smith
Pre-trial.
You hadn't even been convicted of anything.
stewart rhodes
So you're innocent until proven guilty?
That's the theory, right?
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
That's supposed to be, but not really.
You're, just like Pelosi said, he'll have a chance to prove his innocence at trial.
You presume guilty.
harrison smith
So insane.
One of the most insane things about your case is that it took him, like, how long did it take him to charge you?
unidentified
Over a year.
harrison smith
Over a year, right?
So for over a year.
stewart rhodes
About a year.
harrison smith
You could have been off to Mexico.
You could have been off to Canada.
You could have changed your name.
unidentified
I could have.
harrison smith
You could have, right?
And so it's like, does that not get taken into account?
That's like, hey, this guy could have fled at any point.
stewart rhodes
Or I could have, you know, attacked democracy.
harrison smith
Right, exactly.
You could have, yeah.
stewart rhodes
So for an entire year, I did nothing.
And yet now, when I was arrested, I was denied, first denied by Kimberly Priest Johnson, who is a supposed conservative here in Texas, a magistrate judge.
You know, she denied being pre-trial release.
Why?
And then Judge Mehta, I got to get another shot at it.
Go to D.C. That's Judge Mehta.
harrison smith
You know, they probably know his name.
unidentified
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
Right.
And so both of them denied me pre-trial release, even though my only priors were speeding tickets.
So, yeah.
harrison smith
God, all I can say...
stewart rhodes
That's reality.
harrison smith
You know, thank God we got the part.
Thank God you got the part.
The commutation.
Thank God you got the commutation.
Thank God you're out here now.
It was...
stewart rhodes
Oh, yeah.
I'm definitely grateful.
But the reason why we need to have a pardon, I can't bear arms.
I can't vote.
And all my veterans' benefits was tripped also.
harrison smith
Wow.
stewart rhodes
Including the right to be buried in Veterans Cemetery.
unidentified
All right.
harrison smith
So we'll talk about how to get you a pardon on the other side.
We need to take a quick commercial break.
Greg, we'll be back with Stuart Reds.
unidentified
All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
harrison smith
Final segment of this broadcast of The American Journal.
Of course, you can support us at infowarsstore.com and thealexjonesstore.com.
I'm in studio with Stuart Rhodes, who is just, again, it's just, it's a miracle.
It's a miracle that he's sitting next to me today, that Donald Trump won the election, that the bullet grazed his ear.
It's just an absolute miracle, and wonderful things are happening.
Again, you can go to...
CondemnedUSA.com.
That's who Stuart's working with these days, and they helped get a lot of the January Sixers out.
He was, of course, wrongfully charged for seditious conspiracy.
Wrongfully charged and even more wrongfully convicted.
It was the most absurd act of injustice I've ever witnessed.
But you haven't been pardoned, and we were talking about this during the break a little bit.
There's still...
Some restrictions on you in terms of your rights being returned.
And you were, during the break, you were going, I don't want to seem, you know, ungrateful.
And I don't think anybody, you know, would say that.
But obviously, a commutation is not a pardon.
And you deserve a pardon for what's been done.
Do you know, is there any action in that direction?
Does Trump know that you guys...
stewart rhodes
Well, we're reaching out.
Yes, we can.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
And I have attorneys who are working on that.
And all the other guys in the same position.
So their attorney is doing the same thing.
They're just reaching out the best they can to make it clear that we need a pardon also.
It goes back to the perception of innocence.
Everyone's presumed innocent until proven guilty, but it's proven guilty in front of an actual impartial jury.
And that never happened for any of us.
We were railroaded through D.C. where every juror is seen as the victim.
So you're drawing the jury pool from the victim pool.
And they're all, you know, hyper-partisan leftists.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
Multiple jurors on my case said, oh, yeah, I was at the Pink Pussyhat rally, and I was at the March for Our Lives anti-gun rally.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
And, of course, then they'd parade my rifles in front of them, legally owned in Texas.
Two of my rifles, they showed the jury these evil black guns.
harrison smith
Oh, yeah.
stewart rhodes
And then two knives, too.
Oh, he had knives.
Oh, yeah.
Really funny.
Concealable knives.
harrison smith
It would be very dangerous if you're a paper target anywhere around.
You have a lot to worry about.
stewart rhodes
Bad guys do too, but don't be a bad guy.
harrison smith
It's these people that think if you own a gun, it's because you want to go kill black people.
Who knows what nonsense they think.
They just have a totally warped perspective or perception of who you are, who we are.
stewart rhodes
Those are our jurors.
Hyper leftists.
They admitted they were at Black Lives Matter protests.
Like the one outside the White House.
That drove the president into the bunker.
harrison smith
Right, yeah.
That they mock him over, yeah.
stewart rhodes
Right, right.
So that's their background.
Can you set that aside, though?
Oh, sure.
harrison smith
Yeah, of course, of course.
Yeah, I'm totally impartial.
stewart rhodes
The judge would, I guess you'd call it, rehabilitate them.
They'd say, like, can you set aside any preconceived notions you had about Oath Keepers in all the media, you know, and the J6 Select Committee?
Did you watch that?
Oh, yeah, I watched that.
You can set that aside, right?
Sure.
harrison smith
Yeah, this is—it's that sort of stuff that's like, okay, how do we deal with that problem?
Because I'm all for identify the people in the FBI that are screwing around, extricate them, throw them to prison.
That seems easy to me.
Then we have this huge swath of our fellow Americans.
They're so brainwashed, they're so controlled by the media lies that they're fed.
It's like, I don't even know how we deal with that.
The same thing happened with Derek Chauvin and George Floyd, one of the— One of the jurors said, no, I don't know anything about this and I'll be totally fair.
And after the conviction, it was found that he had previously worn shirts that were like, get your knee off my neck.
So it's like, okay, we've got people in this country that are happily willing to lie under oath so that they can get onto a jury, so that they can advance whatever their political agenda is.
How do we deal with that problem?
Because that's a way bigger deal than any of the political stuff.
stewart rhodes
Well, anywhere the Democrats are in power, they're going to use that power against you.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
It's going to be lawfare.
And it's still going on.
Whether you're a pro-life protester, whether you're a pro-clean election advocate like Tina Peters.
So they're going to be going after her.
It's never going to stop.
You've got to defeat them.
You've got to defeat the left.
It's just the way it is.
Crush them.
They're going to use it against you.
But what's good is all the walkaways.
That's why it's good to have Tulsi Gabbard, Robert Kennedy Jr. There's a whole bunch of people that are leaving the Democratic Party.
harrison smith
Yeah, absolutely.
And it seems like the Trump administration has learned that lesson of, hey, you have the power now, use it.
And that's something that we've been trying to get Republicans and conservatives to see for decades.
It's like, I'm also in favor of small government as a theory or whatever, but...
When you only have one side that is refusing to use the tools available and the other side is constantly not just using but expanding and weaponizing those tools, you're going to lose.
And I'd rather win, and then we can set things right.
stewart rhodes
We have constitutional remedies.
Like impeachment of judges should be happening.
That's what we need to fix.
So short of that, though, they can be investigated for crimes.
So they should be the same thing.
It should be exposure of all the elites, both left and right, expose the unit party.
And then after you do that, like when Elon Musk opened the doors on Twitter and showed all the dirty secrets behind the scenes, that gave him maximum credibility for what he's doing now for Doge, right?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
stewart rhodes
It was a precursor to Doge.
But Doge should do the same exact thing.
So exposure is the first step.
After you expose them, then you have the authority in the cloud to then do the investigations and prosecutions.
harrison smith
And I guess that's the good news about being on our side, is that we don't have to be tyrannical.
We don't have to, like...
The left needs censorship.
They need propaganda because their ideas are nonsense.
stewart rhodes
All we need is the truth revealed.
harrison smith
All we need is not to have censorship and our ideas come out on top at the end of the day.
Yeah, absolutely.
Same type of thing.
All we need is sunlight on the bad guys and they'll be impeached and they can go to prison and they can go away.
We don't have to do what they did, which is have a big show trial for people like you.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, we want...
I want it to be for actual crimes.
harrison smith
Exactly.
stewart rhodes
So like the two officers that lied on the stand in our case and were caught red-handed.
harrison smith
So absurd.
stewart rhodes
So Harry Dunn and Officer Lazarus, they said they were together that day.
Steve Baker found the footage, the guy from Blaze.
He found the footage to show that Lazarus was actually under the Senate tunnels at that time.
They could not have been together physically.
That means they were both lying on the stand.
Let's start right there.
Just prosecute them for perjury.
harrison smith
And that was a lie that was key to putting you in jail, right?
I mean, without them lying about that.
It's likely they wouldn't have had nearly as strong of a case.
stewart rhodes
Well, it helped them.
They had to lie so that they could counter the reality that the Oath Keepers that went inside the Capitol helped de-escalate a potentially deadly confrontation between Harry Dunn, who's on his M4 rifle, getting ready to fire on some Trump supporters, screaming at them, he's going to kill them all.
And our guys got in between and de-escalated it.
So at first he admitted that in his first interview with the FBI. He said, yeah, they helped me.
But then on the stand...
Oh, wait a minute.
Actually, that was not the Oath Keepers that helped me.
It was some other group that's still unidentified.
That's what really helped me that day.
Just totally lied about what happened that day.
harrison smith
It's insane.
And not just lied about it, but inverted it.
The guys that helped him, he then throws under the bus and says we're attacking him.
stewart rhodes
He's quite the piece of you-know-what.
harrison smith
Yeah, seriously.
And again, my point is that was a key component of sending you to jail.
So it wasn't just perjury.
stewart rhodes
Lying witnesses.
harrison smith
Lying witnesses.
To steal, you know, to steal your freedom from you.
And these guys are still out there walking around.
stewart rhodes
And that's what they did.
I mean, Enrique Taro would tell you, they put a document in front of him on the table and said, if you sign this, and it said that Trump told me to go inside the Capitol or told me to send the Proud Boys in, if you sign this, you can go home.
He said no.
Kelly Meggs, one of my co-defendants, was offered a deal where they said, if you will say that Stuart Rhodes told you to go in the Capitol, we'll let you go home today.
And he said no.
harrison smith
Wow.
stewart rhodes
So these are men of honor.
So they did the honorable right thing.
And that's where we all are.
That's what's frustrating about the 14 of us that got commutations to the pardons.
We're all the ones who went to trial.
He said no to deals, refused to help the bad guys with the false narrative.
We stayed loyal to President Trump in that sense.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
And loyal to our country.
So that's why we all deserve, and a lot of us are veterans.
harrison smith
Yeah, absolutely.
No, it really is a shame, and I know Joe Biggs is in the same boat and is having trouble as well.
stewart rhodes
I got a nasty letter from the VA letting me know, because I'm a service-connected disabled veteran with a spinal fusion from a parachuting accident.
So they sent me a letter saying that none of your benefits are no longer valid, no more disability payments, no medical care, nothing, and you can't bury it in a veteran's cemetery.
harrison smith
Wow.
stewart rhodes
Which is quite the slap in the face to a veteran.
harrison smith
But that would be undone if you got a full part.
unidentified
Yeah.
harrison smith
Okay.
And by the way, have we gotten a shot of your tattoo?
I want people to see this tattoo.
Can you put it over here?
Can we get that with the dot cam wire on it?
Here, he's zooming over to it right now.
Oh, just missed it.
That is cool.
I like how the only color in it are those red streaks.
Is that a prison tattoo?
stewart rhodes
Prison tattoo.
harrison smith
Is that really?
That's pretty cool.
stewart rhodes
It's a gel.
That's why I got a little test dot there for the red.
Make sure it works.
unidentified
You had to test the tattoo on you a little bit.
stewart rhodes
That's pretty hardcore.
That's pretty hardcore, man.
That is so crazy.
Wow.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah.
That's awesome.
Man, so, okay, so what are you working on now?
Obviously trying to get the pardon, CondemnedUSA.com.
stewart rhodes
I want to volunteer to assist the new select committee by Loudermilk.
I want to volunteer to help them do a real investigation for January 6th.
I'm happy to testify.
I'm also happy to go in there and comb through footage and assist them.
harrison smith
Oh, well, that was the other thing I meant to mention.
Sorry if you just reminded me.
Steve Baker, when he found that video, he was then arrested.
That's another twist of this, where he finds the video that shows the guys lied, this guy perjured themselves to imprison you, and then immediately he's arrested and charged with something.
So what do you think an investigation would reveal?
stewart rhodes
Oh, I think...
harrison smith
This is all set up?
stewart rhodes
That's how you know who they don't want.
Because Steve Baker broke the thing about the pipe bomber and all that, and also Lazarus lying.
He was too close to the truth.
That's why they had to shut him up, or try to shut him up.
So I think an investigation will reveal, as suspected, that there were teams within D.C. Metro that were there to agitate the people, and there were teams inside the crowd that were there to agitate them from the other side and provoke them.
I think that's the truth going to come out.
harrison smith
Yeah, I think so, and I wonder how...
stewart rhodes
Mass perjury and coach perjury and destruction of evidence.
harrison smith
And that had to be coordinated, right?
I mean, people don't just perjure themselves on a whim.
unidentified
It is so sick what they have done.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, and everybody, like the guys that, the two Oath Keepers that signed on to a stack of lies against me, they didn't put them on the stand because they were probably worried that they would tell the truth.
But they still use that.
I say, well, see, look, here's two more of them that have pled guilty.
So people that did that, furthered the narrative like that, I think they need to redeem themselves now by telling the truth.
But yes, I signed on to that under coercion.
I was told that if I didn't do that, I'd get life in prison.
We're all threatened with life in prison.
I'll get a letter saying that the prosecution considers this the same as treason, so therefore they're going to ask the judge for life in prison.
That was the threat.
harrison smith
And, you know, I think it's important to sort of like reiterate all this and go over through it, you know, and express to people because, you know, obviously what we're dealing with right now...
We're on the cusp of World War III and Europe is talking about boots on the ground in Ukraine because they want to invoke Article 5. And it's like people still, I mean, we've seen all this.
It's still hard to fathom just how brutal these people are, just how uncaring these people are, just how psychotic these people really are.
And you see it in cases like yours where it's like...
Holy crap, this whole system was willing to go along with this.
This whole system was willing to lie and scheme.
stewart rhodes
They've got a problem with putting innocent people in prison.
harrison smith
Yeah, or killing them.
stewart rhodes
Or to further their narrative.
So yes, the same kind of sociopathic outlook that you see in these prosecutions is the same thing you saw behind COVID-19 or behind all the manufactured wars.
It's the same thing.
harrison smith
It reeks of desperation.
Like they are actually desperate to stop Trump from doing what he is doing.
And they're willing to...
Kill or imprison anybody that gets in the way or anybody they think they can lean on to put pressure on Trump.
unidentified
Right.
harrison smith
So, you know, what do you say to people who think that Trump's not the real deal?
Like, do you have any, like, suspicion of him, you know, being the real deal?
stewart rhodes
No.
harrison smith
I don't either.
So, but I see people going, ah, he's walking us down the primrose path, and it's like...
stewart rhodes
Like he's some kind of controlled opposition?
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
Come on.
harrison smith
I know, right?
stewart rhodes
We're going to shoot you in the ear.
Don't worry, though.
It's all part of the plan.
We're not going to actually try to kill you.
harrison smith
Yeah, this kid's a great shot.
Don't worry about it.
stewart rhodes
You're really our guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
That's just nonsense.
No.
harrison smith
It has to be, right?
stewart rhodes
I tried to kill him twice.
harrison smith
I know.
stewart rhodes
Because he's not their guy.
harrison smith
And it's like, how do you explain what the left is doing without realizing he's the real deal when you see how crazy they go to go up to people like you?
And we were talking about this during the break, too.
It's like they can't do anything.
Straight up.
Because obviously their whole scheme is illegal and wrong morally and all this stuff.
But it's like, they can't just do things normally.
They can't just charge you with the crime that you actually did and put you in prison for that.
They gotta say you're seditious and all this other crazy stuff.
So it's like, I mean...
stewart rhodes
Yeah, they jumped the shark.
They did.
harrison smith
But they're still somewhat in power and they're still like insane and like getting even more desperate.
I mean, what do you think they do next?
stewart rhodes
Well, that's a good question, right?
So, yeah, I can see a mass casualty terrorist attack or a war being sparked as another diversion.
Yeah.
Don't worry about that.
Look at what they did the other day.
You had Enrique Tarrio and Ivan Raiklin trolling them.
They walked into an area where they were at some meeting or something, and Officer Fanone and Harry Dunn, and they kind of just trolled them.
They've already done that.
Free speech, right?
What do they do?
They shut down the conference, said that Enrique Tarrio had made a bomb threat, Right.
They turn into a mini J6. Yeah.
Deflect from what they have already done, all the crimes they committed, to deflect attention away from the guy.
Well, take the protesters, you know, confronting them, and turn them into an attack.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah.
stewart rhodes
We're the victims.
harrison smith
And it's just not working anymore, is it?
stewart rhodes
Well, I hope not.
It works in a smaller and smaller subset of America believes that nonsense.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
Those are the hardcore leftists, and they drink the Kool-Aid.
unidentified
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
I think a lot of them are starting to...
I mean, I know all the guys in prison didn't believe it anymore.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
They were all on our side.
harrison smith
What's up with that?
Owen said the same thing.
He's like, everybody in prison loved Trump.
stewart rhodes
Loved Trump, yeah.
Well, because, like, hey, he's a felon.
I know what that's like.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
Now he knows.
Well, he had signed the First Step Act, too.
harrison smith
Right, yeah, that's true.
stewart rhodes
That's nothing to sneeze at.
They knew that he was helping them get home sooner.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
And they said, now that he actually knows, he's been through a prosecution, he's been, you know, condemned as a felon now.
He's gone through the same crap we have.
Now he knows even more.
They expect more out of him for reform.
harrison smith
The way it can be politicized.
And that's another thing I'd like to see him go after.
I guess they are going after some of that stuff.
I know, like, I think Fannie Willis is being questioned about some of the stuff that she's done.
stewart rhodes
It's not just the politicized stuff.
It's also, like I said, it's the systemic abuse of Americans by a criminal justice system that's lost sight of justice.
They don't care anymore about truth or justice.
They want to put people in prison.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
So they have no problem with getting some confidential human source to say that they saw you with drugs, and yes, you were in a conspiracy together.
You don't even know this person.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
But they do that all the time.
harrison smith
Yeah, and they did it with you again, unspoken conspiracy, where it was like, well, he could have potentially been on this chat, even though he wasn't.
stewart rhodes
Well, they said that at the end it was kind of like this to the jury, because our guys went in 20 minutes after Congress at recess, so they didn't.
Cause Congress to recess.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
They went in through doors opened by somebody else.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
They didn't lead anything.
They didn't breach anything.
They just wandered in like a bunch of other people.
Inside they helped police three different times.
unidentified
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
So that can't be the narrative though.
So like Mike Nichols was not allowed to testify.
The New York cop who helped treat Johnson, get other cops out.
He was not allowed to testify on our behalf.
Couldn't show that to the jury.
We were not allowed to show the jury Ray Epps the night of the 5th.
Saying, tomorrow, go into the Capitol.
We couldn't show that video.
We couldn't show him whispering in Ryan Samsel's ear seconds before he pushed over the first barricade.
None of that could be shown to the jury.
We couldn't even mention his name.
So the jury was treated like mushrooms, kept in a dark and fed bull.
harrison smith
Right, right, right.
stewart rhodes
But the jury's already, they're all about it.
They're predisposed.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They've been pre-programmed by the media to...
I feel like they're sort of almost fulfilling a crucial part in saving America from the Nazis.
I mean, it's sick.
stewart rhodes
I talked to the jury, and that's why I think I was found not guilty of two conspiracy charges.
Not guilty of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, and not guilty of conspiracy to prevent an officer from discharging his duties.
So what that tells me is the jury didn't really believe that I told anybody to go do anything.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
But they just convicted me because of my free speech.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
Because they were invited to do that.
The judge said you can use their political speech as a state of mind evidence to support the conspiracy charge.
That's crazy.
harrison smith
It is just so unbelievably wild.
But you know, luckily, I think it almost had to be this way, right?
As you were pointing out earlier, if Trump had been elected in 2020, he would have had an unfriendly Congress, unfriendly Senate.
We would have Mike Pence as vice president.
stewart rhodes
Again.
harrison smith
Again, yeah.
I mean, it just wouldn't have been this.
But again, it's so funny.
It's like the left, if they had just let him alone, you know, two weeks ago, we would have been talking about, well, today's Trump's last day in office.
He's out.
Who knows who would replace him?
But we could have been done with Trump.
But it's like they can't just do things normal.
They can't leave things alone.
They have to be conniving.
They have to be criminal.
And it always comes back to bite him in the ass.
stewart rhodes
There again, what man means for evil, God used for good.
harrison smith
It keeps happening.
stewart rhodes
And we're stronger and stronger.
Trump's way stronger and we're stronger.
harrison smith
Oh my gosh, yeah.
stewart rhodes
I mean, I'm not afraid of going to jail.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
I'm not afraid of that.
That's gone now.
And more Americans need to be not afraid.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
They really need to.
Yeah.
harrison smith
So what do you...
I think that's exactly right.
And not even in like a, you know, an intense like going to jail, but like not be afraid of like speaking your mind to your neighbors.
stewart rhodes
Well, you have to be willing.
Here's the problem.
If you're...
The mindset that, well, I'll talk as long as it doesn't put me at risk.
If I'm at risk of going to jail, then I've got to shut up.
If that's your mindset, then you're never going to be free.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
So you're going to have to be a man.
harrison smith
And you can practice on your neighbors and then get used to telling the truth.
It gets easier and easier.
stewart rhodes
Well, like Solzhenitsyn said, live not by lies.
That's what he said.
You know, and Ron Paul, my old boss said, you know, truth is treason and empire of lies.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
And lies are loyalty.
That's one more you can add on to that.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
So you have to be willing to speak the truth, even if it hurts you.
And even if it puts you at risk, you have to.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
If you can't, if you won't do that, then you're just not free.
harrison smith
I'm so glad to see that we actually have an administration now that seems to actually recognize that.
I've been loving J.D. Vance going to...
It's been stuck in my mind.
I probably said it every show since he said it, but what are you fighting for in Europe?
You don't believe in free speech.
You don't believe in free association.
So it seems like they actually genuinely...
Understand, care for, and represent the values that we're supposed to have.
stewart rhodes
Even more so now, I think, because they've been through the fire.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
Well, Trump has.
He knows what it's like.
Like he said in that Meet the Press interview, he says, I know the system.
It's a very nasty system.
You offer a guy two years or 30 years, he's going to take a two-year deal.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
Even though he's innocent.
unidentified
Right.
stewart rhodes
They have no choice.
That's what he said.
And that's the truth for the vast majority of the people in, well, almost all of them.
It's because they had no choice in their heads.
And I don't fault them for that.
It's the one that agreed to bear false witness I have a problem with.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
So I've got a problem with a guy taking a plea deal where he agrees to assault on a police officer.
It does help further the false narrative to some degree, but I understand that.
I'm not going to judge him.
But if a guy does that and then rolls around and test the lies against somebody else, Yeah.
harrison smith
It's hard to maintain hope for humanity when you see what people are willing to do to each other just for a little bit of a benefit or even no benefit in some cases.
stewart rhodes
Human nature.
That's why in the Ten Commandments, thou shalt not bear false witness is one of the Ten Commandments.
harrison smith
Right.
stewart rhodes
Because it's such a human thing to do.
harrison smith
Right.
It's that important, yeah.
Top ten.
Yeah, that's very interesting.
And look, like I said, it looks like Trump actually believes this stuff.
I just wonder what we have to do to get the American people to understand the importance of this.
stewart rhodes
He's a true believer.
Yeah, I think he is.
harrison smith
So we only have about two minutes left in our conversation.
So again, how can people support you or follow you?
stewart rhodes
I still have a give, send, go.
I could definitely use a shot in the arm.
harrison smith
All right, give, send, go.
What's the give, send, go called?
stewart rhodes
It's give, send, go forward slash.
I give it to your guys.
harrison smith
G-A-F. 5B. G-A-F 5B. Stuart Rhodes needs help.
You can probably search Stuart Rhodes on Gives and Go and give your help there.
stewart rhodes
I've got to recall my life.
All the J6ers are in the same boat I'm in.
Most of them don't have a place to live.
Really cool place down there.
Jenny Cutts Place down in the Full Moon Inn in Fredericksburg.
That's the J6 Road Home Project.
harrison smith
Okay, cool.
I have not seen that.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, so they put little tiny houses on their bed and breakfast property.
harrison smith
Oh, that's awesome.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, that's where it came from.
harrison smith
Freshworks kind of place to be these days.
Maybe we shouldn't say that.
Don't tell anybody.
Don't tell anybody.
stewart rhodes
Also, they got a lady that donated her truck.
Her husband had been a fire chief and passed away.
And I got that truck and donated it to me.
That was really nice.
harrison smith
Wow, that's great.
So give, send, go.
stewart rhodes
It was all through Jenny.
harrison smith
G-A-F. G-A-F-5-B. Stuart Rhodes needs help getting his life back together and continuing to do the incredible work that you've done this whole time.
And I think you'll be on with Alex later, right?
stewart rhodes
Yeah.
harrison smith
Okay, so the conversation will continue with Stuart Rhodes.
I just can't tell you how.
stewart rhodes
We didn't cover the censorship.
harrison smith
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We were going to mention that.
You got on X, and what happened?
stewart rhodes
I joined X, and I paid for X Premium Plus to get a little extra boost.
harrison smith
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
And next day, I was canceled.
There's no explanation.
harrison smith
Canceled.
Elon.
What the heck, dude?
What the heck?
Come on.
stewart rhodes
I want the money back.
I want my free speech back.
harrison smith
At the very least.
Like, you know, you charge a man 200 bucks and kick him off your platform, that's no good.
So people can't follow you on X, but they can go to your gifts and go, and we'll reach out.
stewart rhodes
Okay, Stuart Rhodes.
Is it Rumble?
harrison smith
Okay, Stuart Rhodes on Rumble.
Okay, standing for Oath Keepers.
All right, incredible stuff.
Stuart's just been...
It's been fantastic seeing you in person and not being interrupted by a voice going, there's one minute left on the line with the federal inmate on the other side.
That's how I had to talk to you.
I thought I was going to be talking to you like that for 18 years.
unidentified
God is good that Trump's back in office.
harrison smith
All right, folks, that's going to do it for us.
Stay tuned.
Alex Jones in 90 seconds.
Stuart Rhodes will join him later in the show.
Stay with us.
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