The American Journal: Trump Frees Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht In Nod To Libertarian Movement, Set To Continue Rebuilding America On Day 3 In Office - FULL SHOW - 01/22/2025
The federal bureaucrats in control of D.C. are refusing to release 20 J6 political prisoners, who
are being used as hostages by the corrupt Democratic Party against America. Trump sent federal
marshals to try to get them out but was met with red tape due to bureaucratic sabotage. The
Department of Government Efficiency needs to be fired and upwards of 50% of federal employees admit
they will try to sabotage Trump and the voters. Jan 6th was a Fed surrection, set up by the FBI
director who lied about there being no feds in the crowd. J6 is bigger than just the innocent people
railroaded; it was designed to declare Trump supporters as terrorists and demolish the MAGA
movement. The bureaucratic sabotage going on at every level needs to be stopped, and Trump must make
an example like Reagan did by firing the air traffic controllers who went on strike. There are many
newly released J6 prisoners, but some have been slow walked in their release potentially due to
evidence of torture being hidden. The World Economic Forum is currently meeting in Congress,
plotting evil deeds; however, they've lost and are not long for this world. Trump granted a full
pardon to Ross Ulbricht, the founder of Silk Road on Wednesday, 22nd January 2025. Larry Ellison
announced individualized cancer vaccines using mRNA technology at the White House but critics argue
that it is a gene-altering therapy with potential abuses by pharmaceutical companies, insurance
providers, and the government. The speaker promotes immune-boosting supplements and limited edition
Trump coins available at their store while encouraging listeners to become VIP members for exclusive
offers.
Federal bureaucrats, the federal police that are in control of the famous D.C. Gulag, have been refusing since last night to release 20 J6 political prisoners, hostages of the corrupt Democratic Party war on America.
And now, hours and hours ago, Trump sent a bunch of federal marshals in.
To try to get them out.
And now, the reporters on the ground are being told, and members of Congress that have investigated are being told, they're claiming red tape because the bureaucrat that's supposed to be there, who has to rubber stamp releasing prisoners, isn't there.
Well, you have the head executive, the president, with a televised pardon.
You get them, you give them their stuff, and...
You release them.
But this is a perfect example of the national polls.
There's been several of them that have come out where upwards of 50 plus percent of federal bureaucrats that have been asked the question, will you try to sabotage Trump and the voters will?
And they say, yes, we are going to try to sabotage what Trump's doing.
Well, this is a mission for Elon Musk.
Department of Government Efficiency.
They need to be fired.
The vast majority, as you know, of federal employees admit they don't even go to work once a week, just a few times a month.
These people are out of control.
And they are destroying our nation.
Jan 6 was a Fed surrection.
It was a setup.
The FBI director has now admitted that he lied when he said there were no feds in the crowd.
We know they were there.
They started it.
They attacked a peaceful crowd.
Then they waved at everybody else so they could set them up.
It is truly disgusting.
And the stories I've heard from the D.C. Gulag and the cockroaches and the filth, it is one of the worst facilities on Earth.
And it's emblematic of the incredible corruption we're dealing with.
And upwards of a third of the Justice Department resources.
The last four years have been used to persecute J-6ers and set them up in the D.C. courts with 97% Democrats railroading everyone.
And don't forget, yesterday's pardons of the J-6ers, 1,500 plus, was not the only pardons.
Joe Biden pardoned the J-6 committee that was an illegal committee that got caught creating and falsifying evidence and witness tampering, witness coaching, and then they destroyed The entire record of their, quote, fake J6 investigation was really a dragnet to scoop up all the evidence of how they staged it with Nancy Pelosi and others and refused Trump the National Guard that he asked for ahead of the event.
Ladies and gentlemen, J6 is bigger than just the innocent people that were railroaded, and that's important.
It was designed to declare the American people that support Trump as terrorists, that they needed to demolish the MAGA movement.
Well, instead, we're constitutionally, legally, and lawfully demolishing them.
But this is just a prelude of the bureaucratic sabotage going on at every level to stop this nation coming back.
They want the Great Reset, a collapse to control us, cloud and pivot strategy.
And Trump says, no, the golden era is here.
We are going to do incredible things.
We're going to blast our way out of this debt with the one thing that will stop it, and that is massive growth.
We'll continue to watch this development.
But they need to fire the administrators and the bureaucrats that are arrogantly defying Trump.
This isn't eight years ago when Trump didn't know what he was getting into, as he said.
He knows what's going on.
He's putting in the right people.
He needs to make an example like Reagan did, firing the air traffic controllers when they went on strike.
He needs to fire the asses of these people and send them a very strong message, just like he sent a message to the world with an unconditional across-the-board pardon because the whole thing was a fraud and a setup.
And you can look at each trial and each case, and we have, and there was no seditious conspiracy.
There was no pre-planned.
Nobody brought guns.
There was no plan.
I knew the Proud Boys well.
I knew Oath Keepers well.
And they were worried about Antifa attacking them and were there for defensive reasons.
And instead, Antifa posed as the Patriots and got basically a giant bar fight going so that some people would be sucked into it.
So we'll continue to break all this down, but this is an exciting time to be alive.
Day two of the new golden era of America isn't even over yet, and Trump is doing so much.
Great job, America.
Waking up and not submitting to leftist bullies.
Trance is broken.
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It's Wednesday, January 22nd, in the year of our Lord, 2025. And you're listening to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
We're going to be talking a lot about the January 6th prisoners.
We may be talking to some of the newly released January 6th prisoners.
Obviously, a few of them have already called in to The Alex Jones Show and The War Room.
Enrique Tarrio on there yesterday.
We'll bring you some updates as to how many people have been released, where they're being released from.
They're still slow walking some of the releases, refusing to release.
Potentially hundreds of January 6th prisoners.
And again, the speculation as we reported yesterday is that there might be evidence of misuse and abuse on their persons that the D.C. jail would rather have them heal from for a little bit before they're released into the public.
So perhaps evidence of torture being hidden as we speak.
We will tell you all about that.
Moving forward, also, the World Economic Forum is in Congress right now.
The world government is gathered on a mountaintop in Switzerland to plot their evil deeds.
And we'll bring you some of their stuff.
But it's interesting, they're pretty much defeated.
I mean, we pretty much did it, you guys.
I mean, we've gone from these meetings like Bilderberg and Davos being completely ignored.
Disputed and they claim it wasn't even happening several decades ago.
We've moved from there to then they admit that it was happening and they tell you it's a good thing.
At this point, they're all sitting in this big conference room in Davos kind of going, what are we doing here, guys?
What do we do?
We kind of lost, actually.
We would kind of rather be in Washington, D.C. right now because I think that's actually the heart of the world right now.
So it's pretty interesting.
I mean, literally, the video from the World Economic Forum is them discussing how to deal with the fact that they've completely failed in their mission and are not long for this world.
It's very, very fun stuff.
So, major victory.
Feather in the cap for all of us anti-globalists.
We have a lot of guests today and a lot of videos to show you as well.
And, of course, it's the second full day of the Trump presidency.
And I'm getting some mixed signals.
I have to admit, it's not the pure, unalloyed success of the second day.
Yeah, we're two days in.
First day, Inauguration Day, absolutely spectacular.
Second day, January 6th, prisoners released.
Unbelievable.
Third day, we're stumbling just a little bit.
Just a little bit, not a lot.
Not a lot, but, you know, a little bit.
A little bit.
I feel like it's like we're all on a parade and we're going and we're all on the float and we're like throwing candy and cheering and then like there's like a bump and we're like, what was that?
And it's just kind of like rumbling a little bit and then it calms down again.
You're like, is there something wrong with this float?
Is there something broken at the heart of this float or...
Am I blowing things out of proportion here?
We'll get into it.
We got a CIA operative telling us we're going to have personalized mRNA vaccines for cancer.
And it's left a lot of us scratching our head a little bit.
So we'll get into that.
We will get into that.
We have a lot of other stuff talked about.
So let's just get into it, shall we?
Here it is, your daily dispatch.
For Wednesday, the 22nd of January, 2025, President Donald Trump grants full pardon to Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht.
President Donald Trump today has given a full and unconditional pardon to Ross Ulbricht, the founder of the Silk Road.
An anonymous dark web marketplace accused of facilitating the sale of illicit goods and services.
The decision comes after years of lobbying by Ulbricht supporters who argue his punishment was excessive.
Russ Ulbrich, now 40 years old, was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole in 2015 for his role in creating and operating the Silk Road.
The online platform, which operated anonymously via the Tor network, became infamous for its use of Bitcoin to conduct transactions.
Despite being a truly open marketplace where anybody could participate in private, authorities challenged Ulbrich due to users on the platform involving drugs, weapons, and other illegal items.
Due to his free and open policies, prosecutors had described Ulbricht as a digital kingpin, holding him responsible for the platform's activities.
Silk Road was shut down by federal authorities in 2013, reportedly facilitating billions of dollars in transactions during its brief existence.
While supporters of Ulbricht argue he was a pioneer in the use of cryptocurrency and a scapegoat for the government's crackdown on the dark web, prosecutors painted a starkly different picture during his trial, accusing him of profiting from a marketplace that contributed to real-world harm.
This, of course, is the fulfillment of Trump's promise to the Libertarian Party That he would, you know, help them achieve some of their long-sought-after goals.
Trump said he's already served 11 years.
We're going to get him home.
Saying he was commuting the sentence of Ross Ulbricht to a sentence of time served.
So, fulfilling promises.
Very good to see this, of course.
Credit belongs to Ross Ulbricht's mother, who has relentlessly campaigned to get her son freed from that completely unjust.
Life sentence.
And we'll get in a little bit more to that as you look into Ross Ulbricht.
You realize that it was 10 years ago when he was sentenced and charged with this.
Already the DEI poison had made its way into the veins of our judicial system.
And he was given a particularly heinous punishment to make up for the fact that he's white.
That's just one aspect of the absurdity of that particular sentence, and we're glad that's been reversed.
Meanwhile, Trump directs all federal DEI staff to be put on leave and eventually laid off.
President Donald Trump's administration moved Tuesday to end affirmative action in federal contracting and directed that all federal diversity, equity, and inclusion staff be put on paid leave and eventually laid off.
The move follows an executive order Trump signed on his first date.
Ordering a sweeping dismantling of the federal government's diversity and inclusion programs that could touch on everything from anti-bias training to funding for minority farmers and homeowners.
Trump has called the program discrimination and insisted on restoring strictly merit-based hiring.
The executive order on affirmative action revokes an order issued by President Lyndon Johnson and curtails DEI programs by federal contractors and grant recipients.
It's using one of the key tools utilized by the Biden administration to promote DEI programs across the private sector.
Pushing their use by federal contractors to now eradicate them.
Maybe we need to do like a special report on how Lyndon Baines Johnson destroyed America.
I think we might need to take a little trip back in time.
Because so many people recognize things sort of went off the rails in the 60s.
There's all this speculation as to why that was.
I think most of it comes down to LBJ himself, Lyndon Baines Johnson.
We really went off the rails at that point.
Maybe we need to do a full report on that.
We'll get into it later.
Meanwhile, we have this.
We have this, okay?
President Trump launches $500 billion AI initiative Project Stargate.
Okay, President Donald Trump announced today the launch of Project Stargate, a monumental $500 billion investment in artificial intelligence infrastructure.
The initiative is a collaborative effort with industry titans OpenAI, SoftBank Group Corp, and Oracle Corp, aiming to establish state-of-the-art data centers and related infrastructure projects across the nation.
Hey, look, I'm just glad these corporations have such utterly dystopian names.
I mean, my God, we've partnered with the Umbrella Corp and Global Tetrahedron, right?
But okay, great.
No, this is wonderful.
The announcement made that the White House highlighted the project's potential to create over 100,000 American jobs with an initial $100 billion investment set to commence.
Immediately, President Trump emphasized that his venture would not only bolster the economy, but position the United States at the forefront of AI advancements, countering competitive pressures from nations like China.
We'll touch on that.
We'll touch on that a little bit later.
Meanwhile, and finally, Trump orders one flag policy across U.S. embassies, Pride and Black Lives Matter flags, no longer allowed.
Over are the days of LGBT and Black Lives Matter flags being flown at foreign U.S. embassies.
According to the Washington Free Beacon, which obtained a copy of the State Department order signed by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, U.S. embassies will be required to enforce a one-flag policy worldwide.
That means that only the American flag can be flown while any other type of flag is banned, which is good.
Which is good and nice, and it's sad we even have to make a rule like that, but okay.
Finally, we have this.
So people are finding out that, yes, TikTok has returned with just one or two little changes.
Moderate updates to their algorithm that solved the problem.
Now they're not Chinese spyware anymore.
You know, they were Chinese spyware until they censored hashtag free Palestine.
And now the concerns about the Chinese influence on the American youth isn't a concern anymore.
Because it never was.
Because it was always about that.
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Now, we have a lot to talk about.
And there's an interesting, I've sort of, I don't know if this is a strategy Trump has, but I have noticed a pattern.
And I noticed it, and I think I mentioned it, with some of his appointments.
A couple months ago, sort of at the end of November, beginning of December.
It was as if it was like one for me and one for them.
He'd appoint somebody that was like really good and pretty far out there.
And then he'd appoint somebody that was like more or less establishment.
It was almost a one-for-one 50-50 split that I thought was kind of interesting.
And I'm noticing the same thing here.
Our last story from the Daily Dispatch is a good example where it's like...
You know, Trump gets TikTok back.
Good.
TikTok censors Palestinian content.
Bad.
Donald Trump gets the ceasefire in Israel and Gaza.
Good.
Opens up or, you know, removes all the sanctions on the West Bank and it immediately allows for a massive raid by Israel into the West Bank where several Palestinians are killed.
Bad.
So there's almost this, like, it's not a flip-flop thing.
It's not a, it's just...
We're not getting any pure good here.
Every good thing is offset just a little bit by something maybe not so good.
This Larry Ellison AI-MRNA partnership is very bad, in my opinion.
I think maybe we'll get into some of that now.
We'll go to clip number six here.
This is Oracle CEO Larry Ellison at the White House.
Talking about AI technology and mRNA, individualized cancer vaccines, color me suspicious.
Here's CEO of Oracle Larry Ellison at the White House yesterday.
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Once we gene sequence, once we gene sequence that cancer tumor, you can then vaccinate the person, design a vaccine for every individual person to vaccinate them against that cancer.
And you can make that vaccine, that mRNA vaccine, you can make that robotically again using AI in about 48 hours.
So imagine early cancer detection, the development of a cancer vaccine for your particular cancer aimed at you, and have that vaccine available in 48 hours.
This is the promise of AI and the promise of the future.
We're talking about a gene-altering, still at this point, experimental therapy that opens up a whole vista.
Of potential abuses and manipulations by the pharmaceutical establishment.
I guess my question, does RFK Jr. know about this?
Where's RFK Jr.?
Have you talked to him recently, Trump?
Did you run this by him before you had Larry Ellison make this announcement?
I can't believe that RFK Jr. Would approve of this, and I'd like to see his influence maybe come into play here.
Toby Rogers on X lays out a very terrifying way that this almost certainly will be used at you, Tobian, on X. He says you get a blood test at your annual physical.
The doctor says we see evidence of cancer floating in your blood.
You're ordered to get Larry Ellison's patented AI gene therapy that costs $500,000 per dose.
You get four treatments, and the last dose kills you.
The doctor shrugs and says, we did everything we could.
All wealth now drained from your family.
You never had cancer in the first place.
Larry has liability protection because he called his injections a vaccine.
This is quite possibly the biggest grift in history.
The Stargate Project is Operation Warp Speed 2.0 on steroids.
Another way this could go is if this stuff gets passed and approved and you're diagnosed with cancer and you're offered this treatment, If you want to refuse it, you know, it's possible that the insurance company would say, well, you refused early treatment, so we're going to refuse your future treatments because, you know, you didn't participate in something that could have helped.
I mean, there's ways that this can be forced on people in a very, very disturbing way.
I mean, the whole thing is just wrong and bad and, again, just sort of horrifying, especially when you consider Who's behind it?
Fortune magazine had this article in September of last year.
Larry Ellison predicts a rise of modern surveillance state where, quote, citizens will be on their best behavior.
Oh, okay.
All right, this CIA freak wants to compel us to be on our best behavior through continual surveillance.
No thanks.
No, I'd rather not.
George Orwell's 1984 warned of a future where Big Brother watches every move.
Today, modern technology is making that vision a reality.
And Oracle founder Larry Ellison, the world's second richest person, sees a growing opportunity for his company to help authorities analyze real-time data from millions of surveillance cameras.
Maybe they'll have surveillance under the skin.
Doesn't that ring a bell to anybody?
Now, if you just go to – it's almost comical how easy this research is these days.
You just go to Google and you type in Larry Ellison CIA, and AI provides us the answer.
Larry Ellison, the founder and former CEO of Oracle, had a contract with the CIA in the 1970s to develop a relational database management system.
The project was codenamed Oracle, and the CIA was one of the first customers of the resulting project.
Yes, Larry Ellison and Oracle are literal CIA creations.
So this was an announcement by the CIA about an invasive and experimental new individualized gene-specific cancer vaccine, so-called, that I'm sure they've had in the works for a while.
This is just their public coming out.
Ellison worked for Ampex Corporation in the 1970s.
He was inspired by a paper on relational database systems.
In 1978, he won a $50,000 contract with the CIA to develop the RDBMS, now Relational Database System.
Ellison renamed the software development laboratories to Oracle Systems Corporation in 1983, taking the name from the CIA project.
Oracle's database solutions revolutionized how businesses managed and analyzed data.
Oracle's strategic acquisitions include PeopleSoft, Siebel Systems, and Sun Microsystems.
Oracle's software...
Manages payroll systems, hospital records, hotel and airline reservation bookings.
Oracle is now a global technology powerhouse that dominates cloud computing, enterprise software and database management.
And I'm sure that connection to the CIA has been maintained until now, right?
I mean, you can't have a company who manages databases for hospitals and payroll systems and travel bookings.
You can't have that.
Under the purview of the Central Intelligence Agency, can you?
So there's that.
So there is that.
So, okay, the CIA is announcing a new little project to inject you with gene-specific mRNA, gene-altering injection therapy.
So it's going to be a no from me, dog.
If you're asking me, Trump, whether this is a good idea and should continue, the answer is a big fat no.
So we got two really solid days of Trump's presidency, and then he throws this crap in, and it's just like, nobody wants this.
Nobody wants this.
Who wants this?
Who asked for this?
Why is this what we're doing?
I understand that AI is...
Paradigm-shattering, and it's going to be extremely important that we have good people in charge of it.
Larry Ellison's not a good person, though.
The CIA is not run by good people.
So we're in a bit of a pickle.
We're having a little bit of a problem here with how we deal with this.
So Project Stargate, which of course comes from a...
It's also the name of another CIA, it was like remote viewing and telepathy, yeah, Project Stargate, top secret CIA. Let's look into exactly what Project Stargate is and why he named this AI project Project Stargate.
They say the Stargate Project is a new company which intends to invest $500 billion in the next four years.
For years, building new AI infrastructure for OpenAI in the United States will begin deploying $100 billion immediately.
We're building AI infrastructure for OpenAI, the private company.
The infrastructure will secure American leadership in AI, create hundreds of thousands of American jobs, and generate massive economic benefits for the entire world.
This project will not only support the re-industrialization of the United States, but will also provide a strategic capability to protect the national security of America and its allies.
Yeah, I'm a little suspicious.
ARM, Microsoft, NVIDIA, Oracle, and OpenAI are the key initial technology partners.
The build-out is currently underway, starting in Texas, and we are evaluating potential sites across the country for more campuses as we finalize definitive agreements.
As part of Stargate, Oracle, NVIDIA, and OpenAI will closely collaborate to build and operate this computing system.
This builds on deep collaboration between OpenAI and NVIDIA going back to 2016 and a newer partnership between OpenAI and Oracle.
And coming up later today, we'll be talking to the lawyer of Jeremy Brown.
We'll get an update on his situation as he's one of the few well-known January 6th prisoners who has not been released and may not be under the auspices of the sweeping pardon Trump issued.
So stay tuned for that.
We'll be right back.
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I'm so happy to announce that we will soon be joined by Stuart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers.
He's going to give us a call here in just a second.
I'm just so excited to talk to him.
I'm so excited to hear what he has to say.
It's going to be very exciting.
So stay tuned.
We'll be joined by Stuart Rhodes in just a little while.
We're working it out right now behind the scenes.
He just called during the break and I got totally distracted.
I don't even know what I'm going to cover here.
Okay.
It's very exciting.
It is very exciting.
Now, there are still a lot of J6ers still in prison.
They're slow-walking their release, which, again, is completely illegal, totally outside of their authority and needs to be dealt with.
Hopefully, we'll see some updates to that very soon.
After all, we know from their public comments, the likes of Elon Musk, as well as several congressmen, have all made tweets about the fact that the January Sixers are having trouble or their families are having trouble getting the prisoners out.
They're being slow walked or they're being given bureaucratic excuses as to why they can't be released right now and this is intolerable.
These people have been illegitimate prisoners and kidnapped victims for years at this point.
But every hour that goes by after their pardon, that they're not out of jail, is an hour of illegal detainment and I think should be treated like any run-of-the-mill kidnapping.
We have a lot of updates on that.
We've got the lawyer of Jeremy Brown coming up.
We've got Mel Kay, who's there on the groundsman, helping to facilitate some of the prisoner releases out of the D.C. Gulag.
And, of course, we'll be joined by Stuart Rhodes himself momentarily.
So stay tuned for all of that.
And please do support us by going to thealexjonesstore.com slash Harrison to keep us on the air and in the fight.
Again, we're still sort of working out behind the scenes when these people are going to come on.
So I'm a little bit hesitant to open up the phone lines.
We might suddenly then have an interview to do and folks will just be left online.
But I do want to hear from you today.
So we'll try to take calls for at least one segment on today's show.
Again, we have a lot of videos to get to.
As well.
And let's do that.
One interesting thing, and again, I really can't express what a triumph this represents.
The World Economic Forum is probably not long for this world.
I mean, they'll...
Shatter into different pieces and they'll reform.
There's still the World Government Summit.
There will still be this managerial organization over the globalist project.
But their star is fading.
Klaus Schwab supposedly stepped down, but he's still the one acting as master of ceremonies.
But there's internal turmoil there.
And frankly, anybody who's anybody...
Isn't in Switzerland.
They're in Washington, D.C. right now, as the real motor of the world is not them anymore.
And they are actually recognizing this.
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz addressed a half-empty Congress hall at WEF 25 in Davos.
He says, my colleague, this person, Holger Schurzpitz, says, my colleague, Mr. Gerstmann, even managed to secure a seat in the front row.
Like they literally can't even fill out a conference room.
Nobody cares anymore.
It's very interesting.
And they're actually acknowledging this as well.
You can go to clip number two here.
This is a Davos panel admitting Trump won and we lost.
Let's watch.
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Trump has done something no person in the world has ever done before.
A dead man, a dead politician has risen.
Somebody who a year, if we were four years ago at Davos, he's buried, dead politically, known to me.
He's now returned.
This is the greatest comeback in political history of a politician.
And then, therefore, he thinks he can do anything.
We need to also factor in not only who's won, which is Trump, but who's lost, which is to say us.
And I guess I would add, throw into that, that the epitome of the us who is losing here is Europe.
The European Union and by and large its member states have misread the direction where events were going.
The causes that it is interested in, climate, human rights, some others, as well as the methods of diplomacy that it prefers, are simply being gradually kind of marginalized as something new.
Not necessarily something better, but something new.
We just heard the World Economic Forum admit in no uncertain terms, yeah, Donald Trump won and we lost.
He's like, and by we, I mean Europe.
He's just like clearly an American dude with an American accent.
And that sort of gives the game away, doesn't it?
There's no national allegiance.
The we he's talking about is we, the international elite, are losing.
And when he says Trump won, what he means is populism won, the American people won, which means they're losing.
I mean, this is the iron law of nature.
You're either expanding or contracting.
You're either eating or being eaten.
You're either dominating or being dominated right now.
We are dominating.
And they're scrambling to figure out how to deal with this exactly.
Now, one way they've determined to deal with this is to make concessions, to soften their approach, and to make their censorship and various oppressive measures less painful, more subtle, more gentle.
But we're not going to fall for it, and we're going to keep our eyes open and reject things like, I don't know.
A CIA operative telling us we're going to have personalized gene therapies to prevent cancer.
No thank you.
But this is what they've decided.
If you can't beat them, join them.
If you can't beat them, subvert them.
And that's what they're doing now.
And we're not going to let them get away with it, at least not without speaking out against it and rallying people to speak out against it as well.
I had some thoughts about this.
I posted it on my ex yesterday.
I actually thought this was a pretty good sort of allegory.
And then somebody added something that made it even better.
But I try to express on this show what it's like reading mainstream media or even just dealing with, you know...
Strife in the dissident side of things, not even the mainstream media, just media in general, the public conversation.
And I think this is a pretty accurate way to represent how I feel.
I say, imagine there's a thief who wants to rob you.
He tells you he's a plumber and he's been sent there by the city to check a leak in your house.
Your spouse starts blaming you for the leak.
You defend yourself and the argument devolves into a shouting match that isn't even about the leak anymore.
It's about who does more dishes and who wastes more water.
And while you're bickering, the thief makes off with your TV, your laptop, and your collection of gold bars.
Great job, your wife says.
If you hadn't caused that leak, this never would have happened.
This is what it feels like to me reading the mainstream media news.
Everybody arguing over the cover stories while we're being robbed blind.
I hope that makes sense.
Then somebody added to that, also your wife slept with a fake plumber.
And it's like, yeah, actually, that's actually the perfect twist to this.
Is it the wife and the plumber are in cahoots the whole time?
The wife knows there wasn't a leak and she just started a fight in order solely to distract you.
So I think that lays it out pretty well.
And so much of the frustration I feel like we have to deal with is people paying attention to what's being said, not what's being done.
And then arguing about what's being said, even though what's being said is clearly just a cover story for what actually is the...
The purpose of what's going on.
But there's layers to this.
Is this a sophisticated joke I put up here?
Because you'll notice, from the very outset, it doesn't make any sense.
The plumber's story is nonsense.
You should be able to recognize this immediately.
The plumber said the city's here to leak in your house?
That doesn't make any sense.
What are you talking about?
There's no city water on my property.
Anything past the main break is...
My personal wonder, why would the city have to do that?
See, this is, again, the frustration is, like, you can recognize this stuff from the outset if you're just a little bit skeptical.
If you ask yourself just a question or two about what the real motives are behind somebody pretending to be your friend and to help you or to be doing their job in a way that is totally upfront and forthright, you just have to ask yourself, like, wait, does this make any sense?
From the outset, you shouldn't let the guy in your house.
You shouldn't fall for this.
You gotta be able to see this in the outset and recognize that, okay, the cover story they're giving me isn't the real deal, not the actual story.
So what is actually the purpose?
Why does this person actually want to get into my house?
And then to be arguing about the leak.
I don't know.
It could be a phrase or something where it's like, you're arguing about the leak again.
You're bickering about the leak.
Of course, the example that I keep using, because it keeps coming to mind, is something like the TikTok removal, where you've got people arguing about Chinese influence, and it was never about Chinese influence.
It was never about that.
So why are we arguing about that?
Why are we arguing about the leak when that was just the excuse that the thief needed to get into our house?
This makes no sense.
And then even after the lies are exposed, people will still argue.
About the cover story.
We've got to ignore the cover stories.
We've got to look at what's actually going on.
Otherwise, we're just going to be robbed blind.
I hope that makes sense to people.
And I don't know if this really matters.
This is just part of my ongoing attempt to present the way that We should be viewing these conflicts, this world, and actually this ties into a video I just put into the folder, guys, called Karl Marx Hegelian Dialectics.
And the thing is that they set up this paradigm, and this is all on purpose, it's by design, because they're doing bad things.
That's the other aspect of this, is it's shockingly simple and elementary, I feel bad that I even have to explain this, but I really do.
Evil is deceptive by nature, always, always, always.
It's like an integral part of evil.
Again, even with this example, I like I like struggle to even figure out how to express this.
The.
The thief can't come to your door and say, I want to rob you, right?
The government's not going to come out and say, I want to inject you with something that causes cancer to kill you.
You would never take it.
You would never let the thief in your house.
They have to come up with a cover story.
There's always a cover story.
There's always deception involved.
And I know it sounds simple.
And again, it feels ridiculous to even have to say this, but you experience this all the time.
You run into this all the time where people go, oh, but...
You know, this is about Chinese influence, but what about all the Chinese influence?
But, you know, that's why they say they're doing this, so, you know, we have to believe them.
And it's like, no, you don't.
You don't have to believe them.
It's a cover story.
They have to come up with something, because the things that they're doing would be rejected outright if they were honest, just like you'd lock the door if the guy said, I'm here to steal your stuff.
So, again, it's very elementary, it's very simple, but it's shocking how little people...
We recognize this and how often people are just led astray by these blatant lies that they're being told that have an obvious purpose in service of evil and hurting you and causing you pain.
And again, I do think this plays into the Hegelian dialectic where you've got to step out of that paradigm.
You've got to just look at this like a space alien, like somebody that's not in this mesh of argumentation and sides and ideologies.
Remove yourself, look at it totally objectively from the outside, from beyond the confines of the conversation that's happening in mainstream media, and look at the full picture because that's the only way to defeat this system that they operate, this system that they run.
So let's go to this video now.
This is about the creation of the Hegelian dialectic, how it plays into...
Karl Marx and communism, and then we'll relate it to real-world examples that are very pertinent to our current situation.
So Napoleon conquers Europe, and the king of Prussia said, we can't get conquered that easy anymore.
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We've got to strengthen the state.
He gets a philosopher named Hegel.
He's a professor at the University of Berlin, and he comes up with something called Hegelian dialectics.
One of his students is Karl Marx.
And so the dialectic is a triangle.
Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.
And so Karl Marx says, okay, the thesis is the status quo.
The antithesis or antithesis is a crisis.
You sow discord.
You send in agitators, agent provocateurs, and they sow discord.
And then when the people feel insecure, they'll surrender their freedom for security to somebody promising to solve it.
And there's a synthesis.
But the synthesis is you've lost half of your freedom.
And so this process, you start off with a status quo, you create a problem that's real bad, and everybody's happy to settle for your answer that's half as bad.
And then that becomes the new starting point.
You create another problem that's real bad, and everybody's happy to settle for your answer.
Then you create another problem.
And after each crisis, the people give up a little more of their freedom and independence, right?
Of course, you know, the image Alex uses things like boa constrictors, you know, constricting, constricting, then they let off a little bit, then they constrict even more, but they never let off enough to where you're, you know, where the squeeze is looser than it was before.
It's always just, it's a ratchet.
It's basically a ratchet crank, right?
It only goes one direction.
You can crank in that direction, but you can never, it never loosens up.
Now, the problem, the real issue with confronting the Hegelian dialectic is that the crises they create are real, and you actually have to deal with them.
So, you know, the best example of this, the obvious modern example would be COVID-19 would be, you know, what they wanted was mandatory vaccinations that are poison, contact tracing, surveillance, paving the way for a digital ID and, you know, biometric passports, health passports, these sorts of things.
They wanted that, so they caused the problem of COVID. Now, we can debate whether COVID's real, how dangerous it is, whatever, but just taking it at face value and understanding that in the future, they could release, very well, they could release a very powerful and contagious virus with a 50% death rate.
It's absolutely possible.
So let's just pretend that COVID was super dangerous and very deadly.
Let's just take the official story for the sake of this.
Of this little simulation exercise.
They release a disease.
You've got to deal with it.
You've got to do something about it.
Even if you recognize, okay, this is a Hegelian dialectic thing.
They're causing, you know, the stasis is that there's freedom and, you know, independent choice in healthcare.
And they want to get rid of that.
So they've created this crisis, this problem we have to react to.
They've released a deadly virus.
You can't just ignore it.
You can't go, ah, this is a trick.
They're trying to get us to do vaccines and contact tracing.
We're not going to fall for it.
Okay, then you're going to get sick and die.
You have to deal with it somehow.
Or a terrorist attack, right?
Some big explosion or some big invasion.
You've got to deal with it somehow.
So how do you deal with it in a way that doesn't fulfill the...
You know, design of the Hegelian dialectic itself.
The only way to do this is to step completely outside of this construct that they've established, recognize what the point of it is.
Like, you have to be able to see it all.
You have to be able to see, you know, where it ends up, go back to the beginning, and provide an alternative to their synthesis.
So, in the case of COVID, the best thing to do would be, again, remove yourself from the back and forth, the...
Presented solution of vaccines and vaccine passports and go, okay, everybody should know this was released on purpose.
This is by design.
They want us to do this, so we're not doing that.
Instead, we're going to punish all the people that put us in this position in the first place.
We're going to make sure they're never able to release another virus in the future because we're going to remove their capability to do so.
We're going to punish them severely for doing it this time.
In the meantime, we're going to take all these other measures.
You know, lockdowns or shutting the border down to try to minimize the spread of the virus.
We're going to have, instead of the WHO, completely failing to do anything positive whatsoever during COVID. We're going to have some sort of other monitoring establishment so that we can identify and isolate and deal with emergent diseases as they arise.
There's lots of different things you can do instead of falling for their proposed solution.
You just have to be able to recognize from the outset.
You know, where this is going, why it's bad, and how to defeat it.
But all these things tied together, and again, it's just about the overall sort of unspecific way that we need to be thinking about things in the world today.
And it really is a shifting of perspective that's necessary on mass scale to deal with the things they are throwing at us.
And of course, the real beauty of the Hegelian dialect is not only is the crisis real, And you're forced to deal with it because it's actually an attack against you in one form or another.
But the solution often has the next crisis embedded within it, right?
Right.
So the vaccine.
Is, of course, causing the new health crisis we have that they'll blame on something like climate change in order to roll out the next round.
So it's almost this just like continual, you know, self-perpetuating Hegelian chain at this point, a chain of Hegelian events, each link leading to the next.
We need to recognize that and be able to break that chain and shatter the entire dialectic.
And of course, this only works when you have centralized or top-down management of the media system in your country so that you can be the only one to present the solution.
That you want everybody to choose.
You can't have a whole bunch of people offering solutions.
You need one solution presented that the whole mainstream media and even the whole distant media talks about and debates and either approves or doesn't, knowing that it'll eventually be approved.
So, this is just how we need to think about things.
This is just overall what it is to wage this information war.
On that note, let's go to clip number seven here.
This is a very old video of...
Friend of the show, Clown Car, rap legend Wu-Tang Clan member Method Man called out the Illuminati in a video probably 30 years ago.
Let's watch.
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We're in the last times and days right now.
The Illuminati's in effect.
See, the Illuminati ain't nothing but like it's going to be a second Great Depression out here in America.
Except this time, corporate America's prepared themselves for it.
Meaning they're dead.
When it hits, their money is going to be safe.
As far as the rest of us that don't own our own businesses and things of that nature.
So, man, we're going to be killing each other in the streets, man.
Mad Max and Beyond Terror Dome and all that.
It's going to be on, man.
And they're going to have to blow us up, which is what they're going to do.
They're going to inject us with these, uh, they're going to say it's like for everybody mandatory AIDS testing because AIDS is so widespread.
They're going to be giving them vaccines for it so they don't catch it off top like measles, mumps, and stuff like that.
But in all actuality, what they're doing is putting microchips in and your babies so they can keep tabs on where you're at.
That's deep.
That's deep.
They're not even using money anymore as far as paper.
It's gonna be cards to show what status you are, how financially well off you are, whatever.
You know what do you own and it'll tell everything about you.
Again, I mean, I just, I love seeing, I love seeing old videos about this.
Again, this was...
This is so out there.
This is such a wild conspiracy theory back then.
But he was exactly right.
He predicted it exactly.
So again, when you see this stuff happen, if you're not approaching it from the outset with the foundational understanding of there's a global conspiracy against your rights, there's a global conspiracy against humanity itself, you're never going to be able to figure out why all these things are happening, how they're happening.
You know, there were all those videos of, you know, young people just, like, crying in their cars, talking about how they can't afford anything and, you know, work all the time, will never be able to afford a house.
And, like, it's so important that we tell these people, like, this isn't an accident.
None of this stuff is just a, you know, a natural disaster that the people in power are doing their best to deal with.
It's on purpose.
It's on purpose.
The reason you can't buy a house is because they have designed a system.
Explicitly to deprive you of the opportunity of buying a house because they don't want you owning anything.
They don't want you owning any property that is permanent.
They don't want you passing anything off to your children.
It's not an accident.
They're not trying their best and failing.
This is all by design.
It's on purpose, and the people doing it to you are the ones offering you the solution to that, which is...
More government control.
Surrender your rights to us.
Oh, everything's so bad.
Shouldn't we just tear down this system and create a new one?
It's them.
They're the ones doing it to you.
This is the Hegelian dialectic.
This is the problem-reaction-solution paradigm.
If you can't recognize it by identifying the ultimate goal and working backwards mentally to figure out what the path is they're taking to get there, then you're going to be a sucker or you're going to be...
Arguing over the leak that doesn't exist while you're being robbed blind.
We're going to be joined momentarily by Seward Rhodes.
He's a very busy man.
We'll be bringing him on just as soon as possible.
But he's doing various interviews right now, and we'll be connecting probably just in a minute or two.
In the meantime, we've got some more videos to get to.
And I guess since we're on the topic of getting ready for a little bit of ultraviolence, there's a video by Tom Homan.
I just put it in the folder.
Homan predicted the mainstream media.
Would do exactly what it did, and they wasted no time.
It was the first day of Trump's presidency, and we were already greeted with the heartstring pulling video of a foreign lady crying that she wasn't allowed in our country.
And this worked on a lot of people.
It's worked on a lot of leftists saying, look how sad she is.
How dare you have laws?
How dare you have laws and a border?
Of course.
We said the whole time, we're not falling for this.
It's not happening again.
Our empathy is reserved for the victims of illegal immigrant crime here in the United States, not the criminals committing it.
Here's Tom Homan predicting this several months ago and reaffirming that the sob stories are not going to stop the application of law.
Let's watch.
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We're going to take a lot of hate.
We're going to be sued every day, numerous times.
I think you can see the left try to control the media.
They're going to show the first crying female, first crying child and say how inhumane we are.
But they won't talk about 340,000 children that they failed to take care of.
They're not going to talk about the young women who have been murdered in this country at the hands of the criminal cartel.
They're not going to talk about the hundreds of angel moms and dads who buried their children.
You want to talk about family separation?
They buried their children if their children were killed by a member of the criminal cartel or someone that's not supposed to be here.
They'll tell one side of the story.
They'll try to vilify us.
But they're not going to stop us from doing our job.
I don't care what the media says about me.
If they saw what I saw in 34 years.
All the tragedies I've dealt with in 34 years, they certainly understand me.
They may not still like me, but there's a reason why we do what we do.
All right, folks, that's Tom Newman reaffirming the necessity of, you know, expelling criminal invaders, illegal aliens.
You're not supposed to call them migrants anymore.
So it's very good to see that he's serious about that.
And apparently the raids have already begun as of yesterday.
Now, without any further ado, I am...
So thrilled to welcome Stuart Rhodes.
He is, of course, the founder of the Oath Keepers, the nonpartisan association of currently and formerly serving military police and first responders who pledge to fulfill the oath all military and police take to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
He spent the last several years as a political prisoner and hostage of the Biden regime.
I can only imagine how it feels now being free after Trump's pardon.
We were on lockdown because someone was stabbed in a facility I was at.
It was at FCI Cumberland.
But we could still listen to the rally where he was signing all the executive orders and then at the Oval Office listening to him sign for the petition, the pardons and commutations.
So it was awesome.
I knew he was going to keep his promises.
You know, promises made, promises kept.
But it was certainly a joyful experience, for sure.
One issue, though, is there are still...
J6 political prisoners in the D.C. jail who have not been released even at this moment.
We've got to go to commercial break, but I do want to pick that up on the other side because, yes, there's still people being slow walked out, totally illegal.
We'll be right back.
Welcome back.
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And, uh, yeah, Stuart, sorry, we got cut off by the commercial break there, but as you were noting, and this story is from, uh, yesterday, but it stands true today.
Officials stop release of January six inmates following Trump pardon.
I mean, as I understand it, this is totally illegal.
They're not going to They don't have the option to just ignore the pardon the moment the pardon is signed.
You know, the prisoners should be released, and every hour they're kept is an hour they're being kidnapped.
Well, it's totally outrageous, and the speculation is that they're trying to slow walk this release because, well, and again, this is speculation, but the idea is that the prisoners might have evidence of abuse or torture or mistreatment or something, and they're like, oh, well, we can't let this guy out.
He's got bruises all over his face.
Let's let him heal first, and then we'll release him.
Do you know, is there any validity to that, do you think?
Well, it's good, except that this is also another problem.
There's those of us who've been commuted.
I'm sure President Trump's intent was, that's it.
No more of my obligations.
When I'm being told, I must report to a probation officer within 72 hours of my release, or I'll be put back in prison.
And I'll be going to a probation officer in California, because that's the last address I gave them for one of my relatives there.
But my lawyer's opinion is that that shouldn't actually be happening, that President Trump's intent would be free and clear.
But once again, DOP is screwing with us in that sense, too.
So I really hope that's clarified today, and I'm actually free to not have to go, you know, from point A to point B and answer for, you know, 18 months of suppressed speech is what it would be.
Restrictions on my ability to use computers, restrictions on my ability to use social media, do FaceTime, things like that, are in this judgment order for supervised release.
Like President Trump said, this is a day of liberation, and that's what it was like.
And we knew it was coming.
And, you know, promises made, promises kept.
We kept his word.
I, of course, would like a pardon.
I'll be applying for a pardon.
I believe I'll get one.
And I believe my co-defense and all the other, you know, it's probably the notekeepers who are the ones that are running the 14 that did not get a pardon, got a commutation.
And I'm sure eventually we'll be going to pardon.
Once we look at our cases and realize just exactly what a show trial and absurdity they were, I think we'll be fine, too.
So I'm happy.
I'm very happy not to be inside of a concrete box anymore.
I spent over a year in solitary confinement.
You know, they try to do that to crush your spirit.
So I'm not the only one.
Many other guys experience the same kind of thing.
They want to coerce you into taking a deal.
And I refuse to turn on President Trump.
That's who I would have made a deal with, right?
It was the top of the pyramid for the Oath Keepers.
They pressured other Oath Keepers into turning against me and lying about, you know, what we were doing there and making up, you know, complete fabrications.
They signed on to the fabrications.
But the deal I could have made, of course, would be to turn on President Trump.
That was never going to happen.
You know, not doing it.
And Ricky Chara was the same way.
He was told he could walk and go home.
The hearing guitarist told him to go home and he refused to do that also.
First is, as a Christian, I understand that what men mean for evil, God can use for good.
As it did with Joseph, sold into slavery by his brothers, and then also betrayed by his master's wife, where she falsely accused him of raping her and thrown into prison.
You know, he persevered.
And so I look at that as a lesson because, as he said to his brothers, when he revealed himself to them, you know, what you meant for evil has been used for good to save lives.
So I think that's true of what the oppression against President Trump, all the warfare against him.
It's also true of all the warfare against us.
Good's going to come out of this.
I mean, I've met guys, you know, D.C. Black men who said, hey, man, because you guys were in the D.C. jail.
We actually have improved conditions now because of all the firestorm over the mistreatment of the J6ers.
So we've already made the conditions in the jail better than they were.
And so we're actually going to be helping reform BOP, reform DOJ. It's not just us being treated like this around the country.
Yeah, I was shocked when I read something like 90 plus percent, like 95 percent of the convictions were guilty pleas.
And it just shows that, you know, that's exactly what they did.
They went, you can either plea.
You know, guilty to this and get a couple years, or we're going to throw the book at you and you, you know, you could, you know, roll the dice and maybe end up getting a 30-year sentence.
It's totally outrageous.
And again, I think it takes an immense amount of courage and conviction for folks like yourselves to refuse that plea deal and, you know, let the chips fall where they may.
I mean, did you ever regret that decision in jail?
And just to what you were saying earlier, there's a CNN article.
Republicans struggle to answer for Trump's pardon of January 6th defendants just hours into his presidency, as if we have to justify ourselves to them.
But let's speak to the people that maybe don't understand what's going on here.
The leftists that don't know the story of your trial that go, Trump's just releasing all of these criminals that are his fans.
Let's explain to people.
What was it about your conviction that was so intolerable?
What's something you want people to know?
Again, not that we have to justify anything, but what justifies your release?
Every American is considered to be innocent to proven guilty in a fair trial before an impartial jury of their peers in front of a judge who is also impartial and who is actually enforcing the Constitution.
To protect their rights.
No, none of us got a fair trial.
None of us could ever have gotten a fair trial.
Everyone knew we couldn't get a fair trial in D.C. because they drew, first of all, they drew the jury pool from the alleged victim pool.
The judges themselves said that all of the D.C. citizens are victims of January the 6th.
But yet they still insisted on drawing the jury pool from the victim pool.
It's as though you're accused of rubbing a Walmart, and then you want to draw the jury from everyone in the Walmart during the robbery.
That's what they're doing.
And the judges themselves describe themselves as victims of J6. So that's the first point.
Second point, of course, is that in D.C., it's hyper-politicized, hyper-left.
These are people who wore the pink hats against Trump and marched through the streets at anti-gun protests.
Many of my jurors admitted they were at Black Lives Matter protests, anti-gun protests, and at the pink pussy hat march.
So they're hardcore leftists.
So you're not going to get a fair trial in D.C. And the other big thing, of course, is that the entire point, was to keep President Trump from ever being able to hold office again.
That's why we're denied venue change, because they wanted to make sure we were all convicted and didn't want any precedent of a change of venue, you know, moving it out of D.C. They didn't want President Trump to be able to avail himself of those precedents when he was tried.
So their goal was to put him in prison, to disqualify him under the 14th Amendment, or to make him unelectable and so tamed that he can't be elected.
And all of that failed, so then, of course, they tried to kill him twice.
But all of that failed, and...
God has turned what they meant for evil to good.
He made them stronger, and it made us stronger, frankly.
And it made the MAGA movement stronger.
We've come out of this so much stronger, so much more prepared now for the next four years.
The jurors instructed at the end, the jurors instructed that they could infer an implied conspiracy until it existed.
And that can be entirely unspoken.
As the Oath Keepers walked up the steps, that's when the conspiracy could have been formed.
And they were also told they could use our political speech, like my open letters to President Trump calling on him to invoke the Insurrection Act, they could use our political speech as state-of-mind evidence against us to infer that implied conspiracy.
Absolutely nonsense.
Absolutely nonsense.
And we had two police officers, Capitol Police officers, who were caught red-handed perjuring themselves on the stand.
Both of them were caught red-handed.
Because video that Steve Baker found showed that one of them could not have been—they were not together that day.
Even though they said they were both together, they were not together at all that day.
One of them, Lazarus, was actually over in the Senate building down in the basement, down in the tunnel at the Senate.
So they both lied on the stand.
So what that means, though, is that the prosecutors are guilty of suborning perjury and conspiracy to commit perjury.
So we can use, and yes, of course, and that's what happened in every case.
This is the fact that we caught them in our case.
I'm telling you that that happened in every case.
You had perjured testimony, you said withholding of Brady evidence, of sculpatory evidence, and the J6 Select Committee did that in spectacular fashion.
All of that was potentially sculpatory evidence for us, and that was all destroyed.
So yes, the entire process is horrible.
That's why anybody who wants to be like, well, what about the police officers?
Well, if you want to be mad at anybody for the outcome of all this, including pardons, be mad at the DOJ for running horrible, unjust, unconstitutional trials.
They're responsible for the fact that President Trump, in order to put us back into respecting our presumption of innocence, his only recourse was he can't overturn it like a court could.
The court should overturn these cases.
The D.C. Court of Appeals certainly won't.
Because they're partisan, so it falls on President Trump, and that's why the founders, and they're a genius, put the pardon power in the president's hands.
Man, and again, it's like, you know, Trump could literally retire today, and I would consider his second administration a rousing success, because, I mean, I... No, the deep state's still there.
And that's why, really, I'm still of the opinion, and I think Cash Patel is down with this, that mass declassification and exposure is the silver bullet.
Take down the deep state.
Expose all their corruptions.
Declassify all the secret files.
The secrets that they have classified secret in the CIA, NSA, FBI, et cetera, that is the swamp water.
The swamp creatures swim in.
It both protects them and controls them.
As long as they play the game and are in the club and do what they're told, they're okay.
But if they step out of line, then they'll be exposed.
And that's how they're controlled.
So let's go ahead and drain the swamp, drain the secrets.
There were Capitol Police officers who testified in your trial and other people's trials claiming that things happened, claiming they saw things, claiming they were in certain locations when certain events took place.
That was proven beyond any doubt.
They were not where they said they were.
They were not with who they said they were with.
The things they said they saw never actually happened.
It's on video.
The video was withheld.
Steve Baker found that video, released it, and then Steve Baker was then arrested under, you know, January 6th.
So, I mean, the corruption on display during these trials, unimaginable.
So with the video of Ray Epps on the 9th of the 5th telling people, tomorrow you need to go into the Capitol.
He's on video actually doing what we, the Oath Keepers, were accused of doing, planning to go into the Capitol and encouraging other people to do it.
He's on video doing that.
They would not let us show that jury, the jury, that video.
They would not let us show the video of him whispering around Samson's ear that the first barricade was knocked over just a second before he knocked it over.
They wouldn't show that video.
They wouldn't even let us mention Rayup's name, let alone call him as a witness at all.
I mean, the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys were singled out because of who we are.
Because we're Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, and the deep state and left has hated us for years because we've been so successful in shutting down.
Antifa in the streets.
They can't do anything to anybody we're protecting.
We always shut them down.
They're afraid of us.
So they wanted to target us.
But the big thing is they wanted to use us as poster boys for the fed insurrection, the fake insurrection.
They were cooking up to tank President Trump.
And that's why, on February the 16th, 2021, just weeks after the events at the Capitol, they sued President Trump, Oath Keepers, and Proud Boys, alleging a conspiracy between them as a kingpin, to attack the Capitol.
It was Benny Thompson filed that lawsuit.
And it's still an active lawsuit in front of Judge Mehta.
It's in front of the same judge that handled the Proud Boy trials and the Oathkeeper trials.
So there's two other lawsuits, one by the Capitol Police officers and another one by D.C. itself, the District of Columbia, all alleging the same nonsense that President Trump was a kingpin in a conspiracy to disenfranchise Black people by questioning the election and shutting down and trying to attack democracy.
The law firm continues.
It's just in civil court now.
The point is, though, that was the narrative.
The narrative was set back on February 16th, 2021. Everything else since then has been Kabuki theater to get them where they wanted to be, to make that narrative true.
That's what this all is.
It's Reichstag fire that wagged a dog manipulation to try to arrive at their predetermined outcome.
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I'm always amazed at these guys.
I mean...
Maybe it's just me, but man, if I had just been released from 22 years of prison, you know, and been pardoned, I'd be so selfish, man.
I would just be talking about the food I wanted to eat, and I'd be going on roller coasters.
But, you know, you talk Stuart Rhodes, and he's like, we're not done.
We've got to focus down and get these other guys out.
It's just like...
Okay, do you ever think about anybody?
Do you ever think about yourself?
Have you ever stopped being so generous and considerate and principled?
I mean, they really are the best people in the world, which is why the Biden administration imprisoned them.
And of course, you know, this is where we're at now.
The pardons have been signed and have been ordered, but they're not being honored.
So it only makes sense that the guys that had experienced this, Feel for their fellow inmates who have not yet got to feel the freedom that they've been granted from President Trump.
And one of the people that should be pardoned, should be released, and yet isn't is friend of the show, Green Beret, Jeremy Brown.
Chris Hedges is Jeremy Brown's lawyer.
He joins us today to talk about Jeremy Brown's case and where it is and what comes next.
You can go to whoisjeremybrown.com or jeremybrowndefense.com to contribute to the ongoing legal battles there.
Jeremy is kind of unique in the sense that he does not have just one January 6th case.
He's got his quote-unquote January 6th case in D.C., which was dismissed with prejudice because he was only in the indictment phase.
He hadn't gone to trial based on President Trump's pardon in Section B, Paragraph 3, I believe.
Unfortunately, Jeremy has a Tampa case that...
Resulted from an unconstitutional, facially deficient search warrant that was issued at the same time as his arrest warrant.
And what happened was when that search took place, certain things were found in his property.
He went to trial and was convicted.
But because it's not a traditional January 6th case...
I don't think it got lumped in with all the other cases that were there, whether that was because the president didn't know about it specifically or they're reviewing it independently.
So when you look at all the details, Jeremy was accused of potentially having explosives and other things.
So they requested a terrorist.
A search warrant under the terrorism and domestic terrorism section of Rule 41B in the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.
And the magistrate out of D.C. issued that search warrant for his residence in Florida.
And among the things that were discovered on his property were grenades, quote-unquote, Classified material and firearms that, you know, did not fall within legal terms because of the nature of their short barrel rifle.
And Jeremy has contended from the very beginning those grenades were planted.
There was a CD of classified material that he was charged with possessing that he was acquitted of at trial that he also contended was planted evidence.
Convicted of that was alleged to be classified material, but based on law within the United States, I don't think it would have qualified to be classified, even if it had classified material in it.
And then there's two short barrel rifle charges based on Supreme Court case precedent and recent district court precedent that would have been very persuasive.
Those two firearms charges should have been challenged and not deemed to be a violation of law either.
So he was convicted on six of ten counts, all of which are highly suspect in my opinion.
Jeremy Brown being wrapped up in this when the FBI came to him as a former Green Beret, knowing that he had connections to organizations like the Oath Keepers, and came to him and asked if he wanted to be an informant, if Jeremy wanted to work with them, maybe in an undercover capacity, and he actually filmed this interaction and released it, and that's when all of his...
Troubles got started.
I mean, I guess if he'd just gone along with them and become a snitch, you know, they would have left him alone or maybe even rewarded him.
But this is what he gets for telling the American people about the tactics that the FBI is using to try to entrap patriots.
So, I mean, the whole thing was rotten from the beginning.
And if I understand it, last time I talked to Jeremy, you know, he could have taken a plea deal but chose not to, chose to...
He's taken to court.
They've delayed and delayed.
He's been in prison for over 1,200 days at this point.
Has he even had a trial yet?
I mean, where is the trial at in the process at this point?
So he was convicted in Tampa in the end of 2022, beginning of 2023, I believe.
So that's why he's still in prison at this point in time.
His D.C. trial will never occur because it was dismissed with prejudice by the United States of America.
As to where things really are going, he has an exceptional appellate attorney who...
If he hasn't already, I believe, will be filing additional paperwork for a pardon.
He had spoken with Jeremy about that prior to the inauguration and the certification.
I don't think he would have presented that material to the United States government until President Trump was inaugurated.
Jeremy actually had a telephone scheduled.
With his lawyer for yesterday at 2 p.m., but because of the technicalities of what transpired, he was initially told that he was going to be released.
He was taken out of his cell.
And then when he got to the U.S. Marshals, they said, you're not being released because of your Tampa conviction.
He was returned back to his cell.
And that time frame is where his actual phone call with his lawyer would have been.
So there's some unanswered questions that we have right now as to whether or not there's a pardon already either in the works or an application for a pardon in the works for Tampa and if that has actually been submitted.
I will be following up with his appellate counsel for his Tampa trial shortly after this call.
And honestly, that's actually probably a good thing because what we saw yesterday was Donald Trump is extremely committed to the rule of law and justice.
In how he decided to address the January 6th political prisoner problem.
And I have a lot of hope and faith that Jeremy will be getting a pardon from Donald Trump because of something else that happened yesterday, I believe.
So I believe Ross Albrecht, who is the developer, founder of a site called Silk Road.
Received a full and unconditional pardon because of the weaponization of the federal government against him.
And I think anyone who takes the time to truly look at the details of Jeremy's case, and I mean, they're very significant and very detail-oriented issues, I think they would see that there was a lot of...
Weaponization as to the process against Jeremy, like you said, because he had come out as a whistleblower, he had told them no to being a CHS, and then he refused a plea deal, which would have sat there and basically ended that case for him.
So when you think about it, Jeremy Brown may be one of the only political prisoners from January 6 that didn't have to actually be in prison.
And because of his personal code of honor, he sat there and said, I will take up this fight for the American people.
I mean, if you've ever looked into what it takes to become a Green Beret and what those guys go through, not just in training, but once they're deployed, I mean...
It's admirable, but it's not a surprise to me that he has the constitution to put up with this and the fortitude to withstand the pressure to bend or to take a plea deal.
These guys are made of different stuff, and it's a double-edged sword, I guess, because he could have taken the easy way out.
You know, obviously that's not something he could live with himself if he were to do, and I totally get that, and he shouldn't have to.
Laura Logan has been championing this and talking quite a bit about it.
She says that when President Trump met Lisa Brown, he promised her he would free her son Jeremy, a decorated Green Beret who served his country with distinction.
Jeremy's still being held in the D.C. Gulag, but today Lisa said she has faith the president will not break his word.
Do you know...
If the president is on this case specifically, because as you mentioned, he pardoned Ulbricht yesterday.
So it's not just the January 6ers that are getting pardons, but it's something that has to be brought to his attention.
He has to actually do an individual pardon in this case.
When that original meeting took place, it took place a long time ago, and it's entirely possible, unfortunately, that the president may have forgotten about that specific incident.
However, I know I've personally been in contact with several members of Congress that know about Jeremy's case.
I've done an interview as to whether or not Jeremy should be a whistleblower before the government weaponization subcommittee.
That hasn't moved forward at this point in time, but we're in a transition phase between terms of Congress, so I still have faith that the Congress will call Jeremy before them as a whistleblower witness to the events of January 6th.
I reasonably believe that members of Congress have spoken to the President about Jeremy's case.
As soon as I touch base with his appellate lawyer to determine whether or not a formal appeal request has been submitted, that is an avenue that will be pursued as well, if it hasn't been done so already.
No avenue that is available will remain unexhausted.
So I've had text messages through the jail communication system with him.
He's found himself in an awkward situation where stuff that he originally had in his cell prior to thinking he was going to be released is no longer there, up to and including aspects of his ability to use his tablet for phone calls, etc., with headphones and what have you.
Jeremy had told me a long time ago that there is always a breaking point.
There's never a point where anyone can hold out forever.
I hope that this isn't a point where he's reached that breaking point.
But his faith really is in the American people.
And in that faith is that the American people We'll not leave him where he's currently at.
You know, that's why you can sit, you know, anyone who is interested could look at, for example, you know, magamouse.com, you know, backslash postcards, where there's an ongoing campaign, postcard campaign to make it, you know, Jeremy's situation, you know, bring that to the attention of Congress, you know, specific relevant committees, etc.
You know.
There have been a tremendous number of great people who have engaged in that activity already.
And I think with more attention to Jeremy's case, Congress will not be able to turn a blind eye to it.
And by default, I don't think the president will either.
But it requires Americans to make their voice heard on this issue.
But, you know, honestly, if just 1% of the people listening to my voice right now...
Actually took five minutes out of their day to reach out to a congressman or try to get attention on Jeremy's case.
That can make a real tangible difference.
So if you're hearing me right now and you care that there's a Green Beret, who, by the way, I spent a lot of time with Jeremy Brown while he was here in Austin with his lovely girlfriend and their two dogs.
And it's the same with Stuart Rhodes, the same with Enrique Tarrio, all these guys.
It's like...
They're painted as villains in the media and then you talk to them and they are genuinely the most moral, the most upright, the most principled American patriot you could ever imagine.
Just the nicest people.
They would and have literally laid their lives down for total strangers.
And for these people to be treated like this is just such a violation.
So yeah, we encourage anybody that...
You know, cares about the way we treat our veterans or just the fact that this individual is being so heinously abused by our government.
Just take five minutes out of your day.
Put a little effort in.
It really does make a difference.
The more people that do it, the bigger the impact will be.
So we really do encourage our audience.
And maybe just make a post on X. Just tag a congressman on X and talk about Jeremy Brown and try to get attention there.
Whatever you can do.
It's about all of us working together to reach that critical mass and get this to the right hands or get the right people's attention on it, which in this case would be Trump.
So yeah, we absolutely encourage that.
What else can people do?
Of course they can go to whoisjeremybrown.com, magamouse.com to send that postcard, or jeremybrowndefense.com to contribute to the defense fund.
This constitutional republic only survives if we, the people, proactively act in our own self-governance.
That means running for office.
That means challenging your representatives when they're not upholding their jobs, not doing their jobs, not upholding the Constitution.
It just requires that we all choose to participate actively and continuously.
And I think that's kind of why we find ourselves in the place that we are, because collectively as a society, myself included, we become apathetic to our moral obligation and our actual duty as Americans.
So I don't know what every individual person's skill set would be.
If you're lawyers, you might have the ability to sit there and engage in litigation to undo injustices like this.
If you're media personalities, you could be speaking out about it.
The ability to do something is really predicated on what you have at your disposal.
But I want to speak about that specific set of videos that you're playing right now because it's very interesting.
You're seeing the tail end of Jeremy Brown confronting verbally, expressing his First Amendment rights to the Capitol Police on the stairs right there.
There's an interesting video that hasn't been shown yet.
Which shows what happens about five minutes before that, where Jeremy Brown spends two minutes standing over a woman who's on the ground, about to be trampled by the Capitol Police.
and dozens of Capitol Police officers are sitting there and pushing onto him, obstructing him from rendering aid, not rendering aid themselves.
And Jeremy sits there and spends the two minutes to ensure her overall safety before helping her to her feet and escorting her out.
I mean, is that legitimately what you would expect a vile, vicious human being to do?
Or is that what you would expect of the basis of a good Samaritan?
He didn't have to sit there and put his body in harm's way to assist her.
But based on all the oaths he's ever sworn to in his life, he was compelled to do so.
And, you know, there is good video.
There are good stories out there that unfortunately the legacy media chooses to avoid.
So, first call would be to his appellate lawyer to find out where things stand, whether or not he had filed an appeal, whether or not a request for a...
Pardon?
If not, are we going to be?
The next calls will be to some of the congressmen and the offices of congressmen I've personally spoken to.
Then it's media.
I've been with Jeremy Brown since he was in Pinellas County Jail, and I don't do interviews.
I tend to want the system to...
I don't necessarily want to try things in the court of public opinion.
However, you know, where things currently stand now, when Jeremy asked me whether or not I would do an interview for him with InfoWars, I said unequivocally yes.
You know, there's nothing I won't do to sit there and, you know, help him in a lawful and legal manner.
You know, and even if that's doing things that I otherwise do not want to do or would not want to do, like this interview, I don't like to be in the spotlight.
So, you know, I have this interview.
I have a couple calls to make.
I have a follow-up interview that I was requested to do for another platform.
You can also see Carol Stewart.
She was Jeremy Brown's.
Criminal defense lawyer for his DC charges that were dismissed.
She is a zealous and passionate advocate for Jeremy.
She'll be on some other...
On some other networks and stations, et cetera, later this afternoon, this evening, you know, she might be someone else who could provide you with an opinion on what Jeremy is going through, where things stand, et cetera.
We saw them come and descend upon this chamber, this Congress, wounding and injuring.
150 of our police officers breaking people's noses, breaking people's fingers, putting people in the hospital.
What can be put into the Constitution can slip away from you very quickly, and the greatest example going on right now before our very eyes is Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which they're just disappearing with a magic wand, as if it doesn't exist, even though it could not be clearer.
What it's stating.
And so, you know, they want to kick it to Congress.
So it's going to be up to us on January 6, 2025 to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he's disqualified.
And then we need bodyguards for everybody and civil war conditions all because the nine justices, not all of them, but these justices who have not many cases to look at every year, not that much work to do, a huge staff, great protection,
simply do not want When you have a small number of multi-billionaires who have enormous economic, media, and political power,
Would you agree with President Biden, who last night stated, and I quote, an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth, power and influence that threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights and freedoms.
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I would note that President Biden gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to two people who I think would qualify for his oligarchs.
We are in the minority in the House and the Senate.
We don't have the White House.
And so our job is, A, to make sure everybody understands what's going on right now.
And it is a wholesale takeover of the United States government by the billionaire and corporate class.
We are turning into an oligarchy as we speak.
And second, to raise the alarms on what is a really dangerous assault on democracy that has been underway since the election and will continue after the inauguration.
It's just not hyperbole to suggest.
That we might be looking at Democrats being locked up, media companies being shut down by this new administration sometime in the spring.
I was most worried about the Supreme Court's prospective imminent abdication of its very clear duty to disqualify Donald Trump from the ballot under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
And what that might mean if their decision says that it's really up to Congress on January 5th or January 6th, 2025, to disqualify him at the counting of the Electoral College votes, which really could...
Lead to something akin to civil war, if that's what the suggestion is, which is what I think I heard.
And I am telling everybody that when the governors and the mayors say go out and fight the feds when they're deporting people, which they've said they're going to do, It's one thing for patriot journalists to be there and to cover what really happened, but you're risking your life.
And for the general public, I would stay completely away when the left comes out and in Denver and in Boston and in L.A. and Seattle and San Francisco and all the usual suspects because You're playing Russian roulette when you go to one of those events,
Because I'm telling you, unless enough of this information gets out and enough good people in the government are watching and blowing the whistle, which is starting to happen, they are intending to false flag migrants or probably a protest for migrants that will have both in it.
Some incredible interviews with Jeremy Brown's lawyer and Stuart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers will be joined shortly, we should be at least, by Mel Kay.
She's there in Washington helping to facilitate the release of these J6 prisoners, of which only 211 have been released out of 1,500 pardoned.
So we'll get an update from her as to where that process is.
And if anything new is going to happen today, we still have a lot of other news to get to.
So we'll do that in just a second.
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We still have a system that, as corrupt and destroyed as it is, was so robust from the outset.
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They all came together to destroy Infowars, and yet we came through the fire, unsinged on the other side.
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And even, you know, back then there were people that would express things similar to what we express or, you know, talk about similar topics to us.
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There's a certain cathartic release you get when you're reading the mainstream media feeling like you're going insane to turn on something like InfoWars and go, oh, right, no.
This is insane.
I'm right to think that this is insane.
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Mel K is laser-focused on educating and informing the public about the geopolitical forces that are working to implement top-down global governance.
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And, you know, the first two days were just bombshell.
Totally awesome.
Third day, we've stumbled a little bit.
There's talk about Stargate and Oracle and mRNA and AI, and I'm starting to feel a couple bumps in what was previously a smooth ride, and I want to get to that.
But I know you've been in D.C. and you've been in contact with the January Sixers and everything.
Just give us an update to that, if you can, your experience and sort of where that process of the pardons is at this point.
Well, the process of the pardons at this point seems to have been straightened out quite a bit.
It appeared that Muriel Bowser, we all remember her as the mayor behind the January 6th debacle, as well as Donna Brazile's wife, seemed to have been slow tracking it, including also some of the D.C. judges that have been treating these people terribly.
They don't want to let it go.
I am a little concerned about Jeremy Brown, who I feel like was patient zero, set up.
Before January 6th, refused to go along with setting up his fellow I'll be talking to a bunch of these people because their lives were destroyed.
Their families were torn apart.
They were broke and broken and abused and treated like terrorists.
The only way they got away with it is because the unconstitutional The Institutional Patriot Act was used as we knew it would be against American citizens and weaponized to take down political opponents of the powers that be over the last four years.
So I'm happy about the pardons, but I would like to see everyone that was entrenched in this on any angle to be vindicated and to get some of their lives back.
I frankly would like to see them do a class action civil rights lawsuit against all these people that got pardons.
They can individually sue them.
And that's exactly what I think they should do.
All of the January 6th defendants deserve to have a class action case against individuals that set them up.
Yeah, well, especially when you read about all these major American cities giving Massive cash payouts to Black Lives Matter protesters who were detained for 10 minutes in the park because they were setting churches on fire and they're getting a $20,000 check from the city of New York.
Yeah, I think a little bit of cash restitution is due to the guys who have been placed in solitary confinement for a year because they were on a text chain that they didn't even, you know, didn't check or participate in but, you know, happened to be associated with somebody vaguely near the Capitol.
I hope people understand that they were treated like terrorists in jail by these people.
They were not treated like regular prisoners.
Most of them had misdemeanors that didn't require jail time.
But they were treated inside these jails as literal terrorists.
Enrique Torrio, hands and feet shackled, like 10 cops, guards walking with him everywhere he goes like he was a threat to society.
He wasn't even in D.C. that day.
I mean, it's just so egregious and horrible, and I just really hope for these people to have restitution and to get their lives back and their records cleared, because they are on a domestic terror list right now that is still enforced and is still out there that needs to be totally, totally washed away and really...
These people have suffered so much.
I don't think people fully understand what happened to them in there.
Lots of solitary confinement.
I've talked to John Strand and other people who literally did...
These are peaceful people.
They're patriots.
And these jailers and the people in there that were in cahoots really, really tried to break them to their souls.
A lot of them demanding that they be re-educated, for God's sake.
So it's really important that we understand that this is not just about persecute.
It was about psychological torture, and that is a lot worse.
And I remember stories from way back when the arrest first started happening, and the prisoners were saying, look, the media and the lawyers, people are telling the prison guards that we are white supremacists, racists, and by the way, all the prison guards are not just...
Black guys, but some of them are actually immigrants from Africa.
So you've got these African immigrant prison guards being told, oh, that guy's a KKK member that wants all black people genocided.
And by the way, he's your prisoner and you're the guard and there's no cameras, so do what you want.
I mean, it's just brutal and horrific what's been done to these people.
And my motto for the Trump administration, this go-around, is I'm never going to be satisfied.
I'm very happy with a lot of things he's done.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm absolutely thrilled that these pardons came through so quickly.
Those promises, brilliant.
But let's keep pushing.
Let's get more.
They need restitution.
The people that did it to them need to now be punished.
I mean, let's just stop being satisfied with the bare minimum as Republicans.
And on that note, what is going on with Larry Ellison and Oracle and Stargate?
I mean, this was the last thing I wanted to see from Trump out of the Oval Office.
Well, I've been kind of, while all this was going on, I'm sure your audience knows Davos is in full effect.
Of course, not filled like it used to be.
But what is bothering me, and I've been working with Noor Bin Laden, who's live on the ground there, is that their entire thing is about AI, the global public infrastructure, the track and trace surveillance, which I fully believe was built by people that are within our government and our Department of Defense and military and DARPA in China.
Kind of roll out to the world.
So what I've watched is technocracy rising right before us from the side that I believed would be against it.
And it's very important.
I think also, Harrison, I know you believe this too.
We are fighting for truth and justice, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, all these things that are American, not for one man.
Donald Trump is one man, but we the people of the United States have to be very, very cognitive of the technocracy that is being built.
That this Larry Ellison, obviously Oracle has ties to the CIA. Many of us look at the CIA and the State Department as a global public-private partnership, not working for we the people, but working for globalist goals of track and trace surveillance, turning all natural resources into commodities, that we own nothing and be happy.
And Ellison going on and on yesterday, and then like this Skygate, Stargate, Skynet they're creating.
This is antithetical.
This is a total betrayal of privacy, of due process.
The warrantless surveillance 702 was a problem enough.
Now, the head of Oracle is out there, also with Sam Altman of OpenAI and SoftBank, talking about creating a vast AI track and trace surveillance system with huge swaths of land for data centers, one starting in Texas.
All of which aligns with the fourth industrial revolution, the Great Reset, and the parent company running Plaren and Earth, running a total technocracy from top down, that they control the algorithms and the AI and decide what's morally and constitutionally and legally right and wrong, with the end goal of it being a global public infrastructure, ending sovereignty of nations.
So I am hearing the exact same thing within day three coming out of D.C. of all places.
While they're talking about it in Davos, they're mimicking it on stage in the White House, telling us that that is our future.
I do not think that that is the future of the United States.
I don't want their dystopic technocracy totalitarian future.
I don't want my children to have it or anyone else.
And we have the Constitution of the United States, the Bill of Rights.
rights.
But if the American people don't start treating that like a piece of paper and as their birthright and standing up together and saying, no, no, in America, we have privacy.
We have due process.
We have, you need to have probable cause.
This will end all of that.
And this cannot be allowed.
This is, this is a call for the American people to stand up where they are because this infiltration of these, uh, global public infrastructure, all the sustainable development goals, which are just track and trace surveillance technocracy tools to efficiently run the planet by people we didn't elect that have nothing to do with us.
And that also, We'll make trillions of dollars.
So, I mean, people have to be very cognizant that somehow, someway, the Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution are being normalized to the American people as something good for us.
And, you know, it's so interesting because we played a clip earlier today.
I mean, in Davos, they're literally giving speeches where they're going, we lost, Trump won, we have to learn to deal with this.
But meanwhile, as you point out, their plans are still in operation.
The trajectory is still firmly towards the prison planet.
It hasn't been reversed, let alone slowed very much.
Now, to play devil's advocate here, and trying to think of this from Trump's perspective, try to get a handle on what might be his motive behind this, there is an arms race going on right now.
It's like the race to build the nuclear bomb.
You know, the data equivalent of a nuclear weapon, whoever gets it first is going to have a major advantage.
Whoever, you know, succeeds in implementing it first worldwide is going to be in charge forever, basically, you know, barring some major event.
So, you know, I can understand why you see what China's doing and you go, hey, we can't let China, you know, outpaces on this.
We can't let them get the bomb first.
We got to do something.
But to hand it over to Oracle and the CIA and Larry Ellison and OpenAI, like I wonder what Elon Musk has to say about that.
He's not a fan of OpenAI.
OpenAI did that weird coup where they kicked off all their board members and they brought on people like Sumner and these guys who are just total swamp creature, like top of the pyramid, globalist guys.
What is the answer here?
We've got to do something about AI, right?
But I don't like the way they're doing it.
I mean, is there any legitimacy to what they're doing?
Do you think anything that justifies announcing this Stargate project?
Moreover, we have to also look at how our intellectual property, our AI, our innovation is being done by China.
We had all these situations with Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State and some nefarious stuff from her gazillions of emails, I guess, that were erased, where she was interacting with China regarding intellectual property.
On top of that, we have BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, all investing in the global...
I think even more disturbing on that scale is that Eric Schmidt gets a big pass while he's sitting in the background writing the Bill of Rights of AI and getting all these deals with the Department of Defense, with AI military, different contracts and all of that.
So again, Eric Schmidt is always back there.
And my issue with Eric Schmidt and AI is that Eric Schmidt was in Google China.
China people that were the employees fought back against the track and trace surveillance.
But if you really do look into the social credit score surveillance model in China, a lot of the players, a lot of the people that put it together happen to also be here and in the background at the National Science Foundation and Schmidt Futures and the Gates Foundation and Oracle.
So at the end of the day, do we want what they have in China here or do we want a defensive, possibly, AI controlled by people that are actually looking to better humanity rather to enslave control?
And Larry Ellison is on tape not just at Davos, but last week and obviously in the White House, saying that the people will have to change their behaviors and that cops will be watched 24-7 and that nothing will go on scene.
I mean, he's talking about Minority Report.
And as I watch people walking up and getting their retina scanned at the airport willingly.
Without question, this is very dangerous because the American people are not fully aware of what this entails and that if we do enter this eyes wide open global public infrastructure with the World Bank and everyone else involved, we don't get out.
And America is the only country because of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that can say no.
But if the American people aren't the ones doing it and pulling out the infrastructure in their local communities because their swamps are infiltrated everywhere.
Mel Kay joins me on the other side to break down how America can be the firewall to the takeover.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
This is American Journal.
I'm your host, Harrison Smith.
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I'm joined by Mel Kay talking about what's happening with Larry Ellison and Oracle and this announcement of mRNA and AI. And the combination of these things is really what concerns me, Mel.
And just to add some more fuel to this fire.
OpenAI just last week added BlackRock executive Abadeo Ungulesi to its board of directors.
So OpenAI sort of merging with BlackRock in the background here.
The fact that Larry Ellison made this announcement about this AI initiative where we're spending $500 billion to build databases and this sort of stuff was...
Married to and paired with this announcement of mRNA technology, personalized to your genomic sequence to battle cancer.
It's like, these things shouldn't even be connected.
The fact that they are is clearly very troubling and worrying.
And I'm just trying to wrap my mind around this.
So what, I mean, what...
What do we do here?
I mean, what's the play here?
Because obviously, we want Trump to succeed.
You know, we're only three days into his new administration.
I'm not exactly blackpilled yet, but I do see troubling warning signs, right?
It's like, okay, we're starting to see the ocean recede a little bit.
It's like, is the tsunami about to come?
There are signals out there that, like, the earthquake is coming.
Well, first of all, we have to be heard everywhere that we go.
But people need to understand it is being sold as convenience or as advancements in health care that will save us.
What it really is, is full track and trace surveillance.
As always, every part of the Great Reset, every part of the 17 Sustainable Development Goals, every part of the fourth industrial revolution is to take away our humanity.
As Noah Harari says, we have no free will.
It's to replace doctors and interaction with people, with AI and machines, and be happy about it and shut that down.
I firmly believe the technocracy, the technocrats, are people that believe that they can do a better job than God.
And these are not God people.
These are not people that think that what should be improved is our connection to better technology for the earth or for our lives or whatever that enhances us.
But we choose it.
And what they're trying to do is enforce it.
And I'm very glad that you brought up the data centers because these are giant, massive data centers that are needed to run the AI infrastructure, which includes going into our resources, which is water and anything, fossil fuels and anything having to do with it.
This is a tremendous land grab as well on a massive scale.
While our farmers are being decimated, farms are being abandoned, all of that.
We are putting everything into a future of AI and technology rather than putting everything into the future of rebuilding God's great earth and our potential and ingenuity from the individual.
It's taking this is, again, another situation where the technocracy thinks efficiency is more important than humanity.
And we have to keep an eye on that more than anything else.
Locally, we can all do something because this is local.
People don't realize this is not in D.C. They have to go dig into what non-competitive contracts were taken.
There should be full transparency to all track and trace surveillance in your community, in your county.
There should be a map online that shows you where every surveillance system is.
It shouldn't be hidden from the public that they are being surveilled on their bike lanes or at the county park or wherever it is.
We need to know what NGOs are set up in our backyard that are aligned with the UN or UNESCO or any of these tentacles of the World Economic Forum and the United Nations all the way up to the IMF. So it's up to us to start digging out the infiltration that JFK told us was happening in 1961. So how far do you think it's gotten now?
This is hands, boots on the ground in your local community to find every part that is undermining the sovereignty of the United States of America and the Constitution.
And you have to get together with your local friends and dig it out where you are.
And actually, there's been some success in this regard.
Louisiana saying we're not going to have any World Economic Forum stuff.
Or Tennessee banning chemtrails.
There are things you can do at the state level.
People don't even think about that because so much of this is coming from the federal level.
It's natural to want to fight it at the federal level.
But it's also being implemented at the state level.
It's also being implemented at the county level.
And it's being implemented at the city level.
So while Louisiana might pass a law saying we're not going to do any of the, you know, climate change, world economic forum stuff, New Orleans' mayor has signed them on to the C40 Cities program, meaning they are, you know, going along with it.
So they're attacking at every level.
We have to be defending at every level.
I think that's such a good point.
And it's like...
It's necessary.
This isn't just something we're talking about.
We're telling our audience, you've got to get involved at your local level and warn against this.
And you can pass laws that these companies have to adhere to.
I love the way you put that they like efficiency more than humanity.
And this is one of my big problems with Elon Musk, and it always has been.
He always talks about civilization.
I'm not, you know, civilization in and of itself is not really my goal.
I mean, China...
Very civilized.
I mean, you want to talk about a civilization, longest-lasting civilization.
You could argue the most civilized, depending on how you define it.
I want freedom and liberty and civilization.
These things need to be combined.
If we're going to have a civilization, it should be one that upholds individual rights and values the individual and serves the people, not...
You know, China's very civilized, but at the same time, you say the wrong thing in front of a microphone, and suddenly, you know, your face scan isn't letting you on the train anymore, and you can't own a house, and your friends aren't talking to you.
So it's a slave system.
It's a civilization, but it's also a slave civilization.
So, you know, I think that's an important distinction to make, sort of at the heart of the ideology and the worldview of some of these people.
They love civilization.
They just don't really care about, you know, the individuals that compose that civilization.
Well, it's antithetical to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and why we've fought the war, the Declaration of Independence.
I think everyone should go read the Declaration of Independence and ask themselves where exactly we are right now, because a lot of this, too, has to do with huge amounts of money, what, $500 billion, this and that.
While we have our total infrastructure of the United States of America as a disaster, I have journalists coming here and telling me they can't believe the quality of life has gone down so much in America, not just in the- No
other country in the world can stop it.
That's why I always say about Donald Trump, you know, when he says they're not after me, they're...
They're after you.
I'm in the way.
They're not after America.
They're after the world and the American people, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and our pride and sovereignty and DNA is in the way.
And like you just said about God, don't forget these technocrats also firmly believe that there will be a replacement of all religions into one that is kind of a benevolent AI. They talked about this at the COP conference in Sinai and they're talking about it this week in Davos.
So just really pay attention.
It's a very...
We have to make sure that we do not get on any kind of global public infrastructure, track and trace surveillance, internet of body, internet of things, which includes the C40 cities and smart cities.
All these people have also made deals from Gavin Newsom to all these mayors, the 700 mayors that Bloomberg gave grants to.
A lot of this is dark money going in there to facilitate.
The complete and total destruction of the Constitution of the United States.
In America, liberty is first, in my opinion.
Liberty, freedom, self-governance of yourself and your future, and destiny and determination by you.
And people forget sort of why we value certain things.
It's kind of a vague way to say it.
But the way they try to frame it now is that liberty is selfishness.
Basically, that's what they're pitching is saying, oh, you're just so selfish.
That's why you want this liberty you speak of.
Or why are you so important that you deserve privacy?
You don't deserve privacy.
And, you know, we always point to, you know, you will owe nothing and be happy.
But there's the second part of that statement.
It's you will owe nothing and have no privacy and be happy, which is, of course, you know, the height of hypocrisy that as we speak, they're meeting on a mountaintop in Switzerland that no, you know, unapproved journalist can get within 100 miles of.
So they get supreme privacy.
They get un...
It's inviolable privacy for them.
We just don't get any privacy, just like they're going to own everything, and we get to own nothing.
But it's almost like the principle of these things has been lost, and people don't even realize why you'd want privacy as a necessary component of liberty.
They just think, oh, well, you only need privacy if you're doing something bad or wrong.
But no, privacy is like, it's like you're not really a human if you're constantly being surveilled and constantly being watched.
watch you never have a chance to like act morally if your choices are always made for you or you know I was talking about that you know liberty is an unguarded cookie jar right you're not actually a moral person if you don't steal because you're being watched and will be punished if you steal We actually want to be morally fulfilled by Choosing the right path, not being forced down it, and not feeling like we have to because daddy's going to hurt us if we don't.
There's something supremely inhuman about this surveillance system that they're setting up, and we've sort of forgotten the value of things like privacy in this country.
And it's really aligned with a lot of other things that they're trying to push, like predictive policing and, you know, all kinds of new ID, real ID that connects to the Internet and the banks.
And it's just it's all about.
Trapping us inside a digital gulag that they control.
First of all, they have no authority over us, certainly not over the United States.
And I look forward to Donald Trump speaking to Davos remotely on Thursday.
I am a big fan of also pulling out of the United Nations and every tentacle organization connected.
I also believe we need to understand what exactly the IMF, the Bank of International Settlements, and the World Bank, which apparently is the main sponsor of the global public infrastructure.
So this is being sold to us as something.
It is not something for America.
It's for the globalization of the global public-private partnership that has been running above our State Department in cahoots with the CIA to make this happen in America before our eyes, claiming that it's going to keep us secure.
But as Ben Franklin said, those that would give up liberty for temporary security deserve neither.
Well, what do we think we deserve in America?
Do we think we deserve what we're living with now?
I don't.
I certainly don't think that I want the people that created this disaster to be running the algorithms.
That our lives live on.
And I have to tell you, Harrison, people have to understand, they're talking about putting all social services.
So then that's another thing.
So if you want to get your social services, you have to agree to be totally, no anonymity online, all this.
It's all BS. It's all coming from the very top at the World Bank and the World Economic Forum and their tentacles at the UN. And it's just, it's not what we want.
It's not what we want for any country.
Every country.
We'll be taking back their sovereignty and their safety and their autonomy and start figuring out how to build a new global group that cooperates for the best of each country.
I am watching this happen, but I do want to say it is a local job right now to make sure that your local community understands fully what power you have to stop all of this.
Because it's a slippery slope, but you know what?
Totalitarianism, it comes slowly and then it's swallowing.
It blows you up and there's no getting out and this is totalitarianism using Technology.
And it is antithetical to the United States and to freedom and to God, frankly.
And I really just hope that people understand you are the champion of your destiny.
You and God decide your path for the future.
And we decide together that path for America.
And that is what they want to stop.
So we have to be very proactive and stand up for our friends and neighbors all over the world who also do not want to be living in a digital gulag run by a parent company that claims that they run planet Earth and that...
And I mean, there's so many other problems that...
Are only going to be exacerbated by this?
I mean, they're talking about, oh, this will bring hundreds of thousands of jobs.
And it's like, okay, well, until we deal with, you know, immigration and, you know, H-1B visas and that sort of thing, it's like, are these jobs even going to be American jobs?
Like, maybe they'll be on American soil, but are they all going to be, you know, contracted out to cheaper labor overseas who are going to then come in and replace our population?
I don't even care about the jobs until we've solved the problem of Americans being superseded by foreigners in the job market.
So it's like we have all these other problems.
And look, it's not that I'm a Luddite.
It's not that I'm just scared of technology and AI. I don't understand it, so I want it to go away.
That's not it at all.
I want it in service of our liberties.
We need to take this technology and use it to empower ourselves, not to seduce us into a prison planet slave system.
As you're pointing out, so it's not even that I'm against this in principle.
I'm against who's doing it, why they're doing it, who's actually in charge, who's pulling the strings behind the scenes.
I want America to be on the forefront of technological advancements because I want those technological advancements to promote the American spirit, right?
Yeah, and I mean, it's very disturbing when he's bringing up mRNA and the human genome and all of this stuff.
This is all stuff, to me, if you are a religious person, you should be very concerned about because this is messing with our genetic codes.
They've been doing it for a long time.
Obviously, Obama had the Brain Center, and we know Jeffrey Epstein was all invested in MIT and Harvard and all the human genome scientists that went to the Edge Foundation and Epstein Island to talk about, you know, the full control of humanity.
We have to understand, you're not allowed to mess with our genetics under any circumstance without our consent and without full disclosure.
So this is another thing.
Everything they're talking about should require informed consent of the public.
And that is the other thing, this whole mandated thing.
This feels like another mandate to get an mRNA shot that isn't ready for primetime and is causing so much damage and say, you know what, it's not up to you because of the good it's going to do.
Well, I don't see Larry Ellison's proof that there is an mRNA vaccine that can end cancer.
And I'll tell you what, when I saw Joe Biden put in the cancer moonshot executive order, I thought, what is this about?
Why aren't we fixing and make America healthy again has nothing to do with technology.
It has to do with root causes in our food, in our water, in our air.
Many things that we can correct with science and technology we already have.
So Larry Ellison's talking about everyone's going to get a...
Cancer vaccine.
There's no evidence of this stuff.
This is like most of the stuff at the World Economic Forum and their partners and their infrastructure projects that are trillions of the dollars are already invested in this by BlackRock and Vanguard and Chase and everyone else.
The bottom line is a lot of this technology, A, is not ready for primetime, and B, as we see with the mRNA shots that we got last time, are dangerous.
And if you have Dr. Malone and other people out there saying, this isn't the way to go, we're not ready for this, this technology isn't there yet, then why is this guy talking at the White House about how he's going to cure cancer with it when I want to hear people, I want to see evidence.
And that's the thing.
Informed consent, we were...
Destroyed by not having it.
We should never tolerate it again in technology, in healthcare, or in surveillance.
We the people get to decide if we consent.
It's the consent of the governed, not the billionaire class aligned with DARPA and CIA continuing down the path.
Because we both know, you and I, they created Google.
They created the NSA inner infrastructure that's spying in cahoots with the Five Eyes Nations.
And they created most of the technology, including Facebook and Google.
So now DARPA and...
AI and In-Q-Tel are again going to be superseding consent of the governed?
I don't think so.
But if the American people do not wake up and stand up and proudly proclaim independence from this, then they're going to run roughshod and convince everyone it's for the best and it's cool and let's be part of this.
Yeah, and you know, bringing up COVID in all of this is such a good point because I'm surprised that people have like that.
The general mindset wasn't changed more by COVID because, you know, what you're talking about here, it could sound crazy.
It's a worldwide conspiracy with all these scientists and CEOs lying and collaborating.
It's like, well, do you remember COVID? Remember how they all got together to lie and, you know, deceive us about that?
So it's like we've already experienced, we've had proof in our own lives imminently observable to everybody paying attention that, yes, worldwide conspiracies can and do occur.
A lot of the same people who are now doing all of this.
I love what you said about, I don't know what the term would be.
We've got to come up with a term for this.
Something like genetic sovereignty.
That our genome, our DNA is sovereign.
You all said our DNA is in the way.
I mean, that's brilliant.
It's like we need to impart a mindset to the American people of like, your genetics are...
Impossibly valuable, like, incredibly precious, and anybody threatening to alter your genetic makeup, I mean, you should really interpret it like somebody threatening to rape you, or even, I mean, it's worse than that, because you're talking about forever, for all of time, your children and their children and their children all being affected by this.
So, like, this is such a violation of who we are and the very basis of our being, and people don't understand what a monumental attack that is against us, the fact that they're going after our literal gen- Yeah, I think.
We also have to really remind people again and again and again what really happened during COVID. And we need accountability for that.
And Dr. Fauci can get a part in all he wants.
Well, there's a lot of other players that he can testify against then.
But the bottom line is that we, the people of the United States, are standing for this, this personal sovereignty, individual liberty, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, inalienable rights that should be every person on planet Earth born in the image of God has inalienable rights that are going...
Also, the more that they mess with our genetic makeup, the more we go towards transhumanism, which is, of course, what these people love and want.
And their dystopian future is, to them, a utopia.
And this is real stuff.
And I really do believe that the American people need to understand their individual responsibility on planet Earth right now.
We didn't get this.
Again, we're still founders.
This country isn't even 250 years old.
When we're talking about what the founders wanted, because I frankly think that we were infiltrated in 1912 anyway, but what our founders wanted, well, we're still the founders of this country.
They're not going to look back on America and just look at the first hundred years.
They're going to still be looking at our time.
What did we do?
How did we keep liberty?
How did we keep independence?
How did we keep personal sovereignty?
Stop thinking on that level.
And anyone that is still so delusional to think that there is not a global public-private partnership working above our governments that has no allegiance or alliance to any country, to any flag, to any religion, to any people.
They are power for power's sake, and their power lies in technocracy, transhumanism, and reducing the need for humans on planet Earth.
It is very clear on all their websites.
Anyone denying it just isn't going to look.
You can go to weforum.org, UNR Common Agenda, all the way up to the IMF, World Bank, all of them.
They are all talking about Agenda 2030, which is the end of individual sovereignty on planet Earth, as far as I'm concerned.
And if that matters to you and you want your children to have that, you need to really dig in and understand it is a conspiracy, but not a theory.
And it has been going on for 100 years.
You go back to Brzezinski and Kissinger and the Rockefellers.
going to find this was a long-term plan that right now we the people of the United States are standing between freedom and this incredible...
And of course, it just incorporates everything that we're talking about here because it coincides with the creation of a one-world religion, the one-world government.
It's a spiritual battle.
It's a physical battle.
And as you point out, the thing standing in the way is America and our values and our...
Principles of freedom and liberty and freedom from, you know, the value of privacy and freedom from, you know, unwarranted surveillance and all these things.
This is what's preventing them from implementing their master plan.
And we have to reemphasize and reestablish, really, our foundational beliefs.
I like that.
We are still the founders.
And, you know, I hope that...
Trump is just not aware of what's going on.
I really don't think he knows that this is their plan and is in on it.
I think he's just like, oh, lots of jobs.
He's like, it's not going to cost America anything because OpenAI and Larry Ellison are footing the bill.
So, hey, it's nothing but positive for us.
I hope he just doesn't realize, and maybe that should be our main goal, is just waking Trump up to the reality of what he is sort of unwittingly participating in.
At least I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
