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coronavirus covid-19 the whole thing was premeditated It was murder. | |
It was active terrorism by a state against the world. | ||
Let's call it what it is. | ||
Here's the bad news. | ||
For 58 years, the United States, the UK, in collaboration with researchers around the world, planned to use coronavirus to instill the most tyrannical reform of society that this generation has ever seen. | ||
And they did it. | ||
Purely premeditated to make sure that we were cowed into submission. | ||
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Do you believe the Olympics? | |
Do they have the chance of becoming maybe a super spreader? | ||
I think that's a... | ||
for sure! | ||
1,000%. | ||
Peter Hotez, the mini-me of Fauci. | ||
Calls for police deployment against anti-vaxxers. | ||
It's worse than that. | ||
UN and NATO troops to take over the media, lock down martial law and force inject you under the UN treaty. | ||
What? | ||
We have some big picture stuff coming down the pike starting on January 21st. | ||
Mr. Bloomberg mentioned H5N1. We're seeing sporadic human cases, no human-to-human transmission yet. | ||
And that's just the beginning. | ||
We have another major coronavirus likely brewing in Asia. | ||
We've had SARS in 2002. We have a big problem with mosquito-transmitted viruses all along the Gulf Coast, where I am here in Texas, so we're expecting The | ||
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health sector can't solve this on its own. | |
We're going to have to bring in Homeland Security. | ||
We need the other United Nations agencies. | ||
NATO, this is a security problem. | ||
At least 15 federal agencies knew that gain-of-function research was being done in the Wuhan lab since, what, 2018? | ||
We've gotten all of our information from Whistleblower, but we now know it wasn't just one agency that China was approaching. | ||
China made a presentation, or an American representative, Peter Deczak, made a representation to 15 agencies about creating a virus that, guess what? | ||
Looks suspiciously like COVID-19 and looks like no other virus in nature from that family. | ||
They were working on this and presented it to 15 agencies. | ||
And in 2020, when they saw COVID-19, they should have all been calling and raising the alarm and saying, my goodness, we saw this two years ago. | ||
We knew the Chinese were doing this. | ||
Lo and behold, they did it. | ||
Bill Gates says we'll never find a coronavirus cure. | ||
That was in October 2020. So he's telling you take the shot, it will cure you, while separately saying in his own foundation and in the NIH that there'll never be a cure because they flooded everybody with all these cancer viruses, but there are cures. | ||
So it's lies on top of lies on top of lies. | ||
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Let's walk through it. | |
It's HIV, XMRV, and SARS. It never was a coronavirus, and that's the big lie. | ||
Let's stop there. | ||
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Teenage girls or girls in their 20s presenting with stage 4 breast cancer. | |
But they hid the fact from the FDA that there was a very carcinogenic substance within these vaccines. | ||
They continued to give them. | ||
And now we're seeing just an explosion of cancer, especially among young people. | ||
Matt Hancock, who got caught admitting that the COVID thing was all fake, it was about control, in his text messages that came out who ran the poison shot operations in the UK, More of his messages have come out, and now Matt Hancock is cracking jokes about Bill Gates' conspiracy. | ||
He joked about Bill Gates ought to be paying me a lot of money for all the people I injected with his chips. | ||
Well, he does own a company that does put nanochips in vaccines to track you. | ||
What they put is self-replicating nanotech spike protein to cut off and self-replicate your DNA defense system, and then they load you with hundreds of known top cancer viruses. | ||
So it's far worse than a microchip. | ||
All right, folks, that is the latest from John Bound. | ||
The awful COVID truth must be dealt with. | ||
Stay tuned. | ||
We're going to do your daily dispatch on the other side. | ||
I'll give you a breakdown as to what happened yesterday in court. | ||
Yes, we are still here. | ||
Yes, we are live on the 10th of December. | ||
I'll give you a breakdown of what occurred yesterday in the courtroom in Houston. | ||
And we'll be talking about the CEO assassin, Luigi Mangione. | ||
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Tuesday, December 10th in the year of our Lord, 2024. And you're listening to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith. | |
Watch it live right now at band.video. | ||
I think it's time to blow this thing. | ||
Get everybody in the stuff together. | ||
Okay, three, two, one, let's jam. | ||
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
Welcome to The American Journal. | ||
Yes, we are live this Tuesday, the 10th of December. | ||
Yesterday, there was a hearing in Houston about the fate of InfoWars as to whether or not the auction should go through. | ||
I called in and listened in live to the proceedings. | ||
And I was on the phone for 5 hours and 40 minutes yesterday. | ||
5 hours and 39 minutes to be exact. | ||
Listening to the proceedings. | ||
They got through one witness. | ||
One witness was examined and cross-examined. | ||
So no decisions yet. | ||
Long story short, proceedings restart today at around 1.30 p.m. | ||
And they'll probably go all night. | ||
And hopefully it'll be done by then. | ||
But I guess it depends on how many witnesses they have. | ||
If one witness takes five hours. | ||
And I sort of don't have, you know, you'd think five hours... | ||
I'd be, you know, there'd be something that happened, but no. | ||
No, no updates. | ||
No way to determine which way the wind is blowing in this case. | ||
But it was interesting. | ||
I think Alex's or... | ||
It's not Alex's lawyers. | ||
There's basically two lawyers for what we can call our side and two lawyers for their side. | ||
I thought our lawyers had a better, stronger opening argument. | ||
The other side's lawyers didn't even want to have an opening argument. | ||
They were like, nah, just let's not worry about it. | ||
And their whole thing was just sort of like, this is all normal, this is all fine. | ||
And they kept making the argument that the only thing, you know, I question here is whether the trustee, should I even be talking about that? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I mean, it's public, right? | ||
It was a public hearing. | ||
Anybody could have listened in. | ||
I can just recount what I heard, right? | ||
I don't want to get us in trouble. | ||
But essentially their argument was... | ||
Okay, yeah. | ||
It was just like, it's fine. | ||
You know, it's all fine. | ||
The only thing it questioned here was whether the trustee used his best business judgment. | ||
And it doesn't mean you have to agree with his business judgment. | ||
You know, you sort of have to just prove that he used something other than his best business judgment. | ||
But then our side basically made the argument that he was tricked. | ||
That the agreement that the trustee signed and agreed to, he then looked back at and was like, well, wait, this is different than I thought it was. | ||
Let's redo it. | ||
And our side made the argument that basically their side got to redo their bid and our side didn't. | ||
And it's pretty much as simple as that. | ||
Their side got to work with the auction team and You know, sort of re-bid and change their bid up, and our side didn't get that opportunity. | ||
And then there's a bunch of bizarre, I mean, the lawyers for our side kept using the term voodoo economics, and it was rather voodoo-like, the way that 1.75 suddenly became 7 million because 100,000 was given to somebody. | ||
It was all very weird, but really no development. | ||
I will say that I just... | ||
I just love the judge. | ||
The judge is great. | ||
I can't think of his name right now. | ||
Lopez, I think? | ||
Yeah, Judge Lopez. | ||
He's awesome. | ||
Not because he's on our side, by any means. | ||
And maybe it's just a reflection of how crappy everything is in this country. | ||
That it's just, it's like a breath of fresh air having somebody that seems genuinely uninvolved and just wants to, you know, do things right. | ||
And is catching, you know, little mistakes here or there. | ||
It almost reminds me, this is such a stupid story, but I don't know why. | ||
It's just stuck with me. | ||
Have you ever had a really, really good, polite interaction? | ||
For some reason, it stands out in my mind. | ||
Last time I was on a plane, you know, it can always be awkward or kind of uncomfortable when you're trying to, like, squeeze by or it's like, you know, you have to get somebody, you know, somebody's got their headphones on. | ||
You got to kind of, like, wake them up. | ||
Last time I got on a plane, I was sitting on the window. | ||
The two people were in. | ||
And it was just the whole process just went so smooth. | ||
It was just so, like... | ||
Hi, excuse me, I'm there. | ||
Oh, yeah, excuse me, excuse me, thank you, thank you, and we're all sitting in perfect. | ||
No one's just like, that was amazing. | ||
That was so pleasant. | ||
Everybody's just polite and nice and just doing what they need to, and nobody's giving you guff, and nobody's sighing or acting like you're putting them out. | ||
It's just, that's this feeling that I get from this judge. | ||
It's just like, oh, my God, this is amazing. | ||
He's just polite and forceful, and he's not letting them run with it. | ||
I mean, if you watch the other... | ||
You know, proceedings throughout this entire legal saga with Alex Jones, you've seen the opposite. | ||
You've seen judges with very clear biases and, you know, very clear sympathies on display for everybody to see as signals to the jury as to, you know, which directions they should go. | ||
And it's just sickening. | ||
It's like sickening seeing somebody in that position. | ||
And so then when you have somebody like Judge Lopez, who just seems by the book, all business, something very just like It's comforting and sincere about it. | ||
So, who knows? | ||
Again, it could go either way, but our opening statement was very forceful. | ||
It was very much... | ||
And it was weird, because the witness that they had, and again, this is all just my personal interpretation, listening to it while I'm doing stuff with my kids. | ||
I just have a headphone in, listening to it in the background. | ||
Take it for what it's worth, and it's, again, just my personal interpretation of everything. | ||
The witness at first seemed like he was kind of like I was just describing Judge Lopez. | ||
Just sort of like, here's how we do it. | ||
Buy the book. | ||
You know, no problem. | ||
That was when he was being questioned. | ||
And then our side started to cross-examine him. | ||
And it changed a little bit. | ||
The mood changed. | ||
And I'm not sure if that's because our lawyer was a little bit more aggressive in his questioning. | ||
And the person was responding to that. | ||
But it was like when he was being questioned at first, it was like, oh yeah, this guy's just like a straight shooter. | ||
This is cool. | ||
And then when he starts getting questioned by our guy, weird things would happen. | ||
Whereas like, there's one exchange where our lawyer says, you talked to and had a meeting with or had a discussion with the tetrahedron guys after the first bid round. | ||
So there are two bid rounds, a little less than a week apart. | ||
And there's the first one where you sort of put in a temporary offer, like not a real offer, but you sort of, you know, have a discussion about what you could afford, etc. | ||
And then there was the final offer where it was like your best and final one option. | ||
What can you pay? | ||
That's going to be your bid. | ||
These were about a week apart. | ||
And so our lawyer asks, did you have a discussion about this with Global Tetrahedron after the first round of bids? | ||
And the guy goes, no. | ||
And our lawyer goes, well, but you said that you did. | ||
You talked to them. | ||
The guy's like, yeah, I talked to them. | ||
He's like, okay, did you have a discussion about this after the first bid round? | ||
The guy goes, no, no, I had a discussion with him before the second bid round. | ||
And our lawyer's like, okay, before the second bid round, but after the first, right? | ||
The guy's like, yeah. | ||
He's like, okay, so the answer is yes. | ||
So it's just weird stuff like that, where it's like, okay, the answer is yes. | ||
But he says no. | ||
And then on clarification, it turns out the answer is yes. | ||
And it was just like, okay, why would he not just say yes? | ||
So, you know, in a way, it's like he was being defensive and trying not to get caught in a trap. | ||
Which is not typically the way you think if you're just innocently saying what happened. | ||
So again, it's just, it was a little, it was odd things like that. | ||
Where you just go, okay, if the answer is yes, why didn't he just say yes? | ||
Why did we have to go through this whole rigmarole? | ||
And, you know, maybe it's because he's, like, feeling defensive and, you know, feeling like our lawyer was leading him into a trap because it sounds bad to say, oh, so you had a conversation with the winning bidder after the first round of bids, right? | ||
So you and them got together maybe to coordinate something to rig the You know, that was maybe what was implied. | ||
And so he was trying to, you know, he was trying not to answer in a way that would make it look like he was bid rigging or whatever. | ||
And so he's being defensive. | ||
And I think part of that, like maybe his mindset comes from the arguments that were being made by the other side, which were That the only reason this hearing is happening is because of conspiracy theories. | ||
Oh, there's this all crazy conspiracy theories. | ||
And it was funny because they even at one point responded to a judge. | ||
You know, the judge had a question and they're like, well, we don't have time for conspiracy theories. | ||
And the judge was like, I'm not saying a conspiracy theory. | ||
I'm asking you a question. | ||
Like, oh, you're not supposed to accuse the judge of engaging in conspiracy theories. | ||
After all, probably a large portion of the judge's time is litigating literal conspiracy theories and actually determining guilt or innocence in conspiring to break the law. | ||
So, you know, I imagine it's funny for judges to hear the term conspiracy theory thrown around as if they don't deal with literal conspiracies all day and every day. | ||
So, again, I think Their whole argument is just like, everything was fine, everything was by the book, and any... | ||
Any accusations or any claims or any suspicion that this wasn't totally by the book. | ||
Those are crazy conspiracy theories, baseless conspiracy theories. | ||
We can just ignore them and brush them to the side. | ||
But if that was the case, then the hearing would never have happened, right? | ||
It's not our conspiracy theories that started the hearing. | ||
It was the judge's concerns about how the whole thing went down. | ||
So again, the hearings will start up again at 1.30. | ||
That is my encapsulation of a five-hour and 40-minute proceeding. | ||
Those are my takeaways. | ||
We don't have a lot. | ||
I will say in the opening statement from our side, they basically said that they have a lot of evidence of the way everything went down. | ||
We haven't seen that evidence yet. | ||
If you've ever watched a court proceeding, that's how it goes. | ||
In the opening statement, typically the person will say, in this proceedings, here's what we'll show you. | ||
We'll prove this, we'll prove this, and we'll prove this. | ||
And then as the witnesses are called, that's when the evidence is actually presented. | ||
But there's also no rules about Like, having to actually have evidence. | ||
Like, you can kind of say anything in the opening and the closing. | ||
Hence the body of the proceedings where the evidence is put forward. | ||
So they said, you know, basically, like, we've uncovered some crazy stuff and we'll be presenting it throughout these proceedings. | ||
So maybe some of that will come out later today. | ||
And it was all very convoluted and nonsensical and going just off of the opening statements, I'd say... | ||
Our argument was the stronger. | ||
But again, we'll see how it plays out. | ||
And no matter what happens, you can support us at the Alex Jones store and know that we will continue to fight on regardless. | ||
So that's your update for what's happening with InfoWars. | ||
We'll find out more later this evening and hopefully I'll still be on air tomorrow. | ||
God willing. | ||
We have a lot of news to get to, so let's just get into your daily dispatch and we'll be spending a lot of time today on Luigi Mangione. | ||
I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. | ||
It's pronounced like Chuck Mangione from King of the Hill, right? | ||
The trumpet player? | ||
Chuck Mangione? | ||
Luigi Mangione's uncle or something? | ||
We'll be talking about that quite a bit. | ||
Let's just get into it. | ||
to it here it is your daily dispatch all right folks here it is your daily dispatch for tuesday the 10th of december 2024 suspect in fatal shooting of united healthcare ceo brian thompson idd is luigi mangione an ex ivy league student The suspect nabbed in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an anti-capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online quotes from Unabomber Ted Kaczynski. | ||
And seethed in a manifesto, quote, these parasites simply had it coming, law enforcement sources told The Post on Monday. | ||
Tech whiz, they call him, Luigi Mangione, 26, originally from Towson, Maryland, apparently hated the medical community because of how it treated his sick relative, sources say. | ||
That was our guess early on. | ||
The suspects also may have had a grudge because of his own interaction with the industry, sources say, noting an x-ray photo on his ex account showing four pins in a spine, whether that was his spine or his mother's. | ||
There have been some... | ||
I'm suspicious of all this. | ||
I have to say, first and foremost, I'm a little bit suspicious of all this. | ||
The way he was found, very suspicious. | ||
The fact that he only looks like some of the pictures of the guy. | ||
To me, he doesn't look like the video. | ||
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He's a shapeshifter. | |
He's a shapeshifter. | ||
Can Italians shapeshift? | ||
Is that a thing? | ||
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You know, it's one of those people who like, you know, you ever meet someone, it's classic, you hear this all the time with people who do the online dating, right? | |
They see the picture and then in real life, you know, and they're like, whoa! | ||
You know, it really depends on the angle and the lens there. | ||
Yeah, I don't know if angle and lens can turn a unibrow into normal eyebrows, but that's one of the things. | ||
The dude's jacked. | ||
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Which actually has garnered him a lot of support online. | |
I'm currently trudging through the annals of Reddit right now, looking for all the positive support. | ||
I mean, if you go to the front page, it's hilarious. | ||
Yeah, I'm telling you right now, and I called it early on. | ||
If you're supporting this guy, you're... | ||
Very dumb. | ||
You're a socialist idiot and we'll get into it. | ||
Long story short, this kid grew up way richer and more privileged than the guy he killed. | ||
The guy he killed, his dad was a grain silo worker who worked his way up through public school to... | ||
I think, like, Iowa University and then just, like, climbed the corporate ladder to become a CEO. Totally, like, lower class to middle class to upper class, like, American success story, hard work and no privilege. | ||
Meanwhile, the guy who kills him is from one of the richest families in Maryland who, by the way, made their money from healthcare and running old folks' homes. | ||
So this guy's total hypocrite. | ||
Total scumbag. | ||
Killed a father in cold blood who had nothing to do with whatever nonsense Luigi was going through. | ||
Just total scumbag. | ||
And so of course you have socialist scumbags on the internet and dumb women thirsting after him because something broken in their brains and they're an existential threat to all of us. | ||
We'll get back into that in just a little bit. | ||
Trust me, it gets even weirder and stranger. | ||
And even the way he was found, I'm just, I'm suspicious of the whole thing. | ||
I'm suspicious of the whole dang thing. | ||
So we'll get back into that. | ||
He still had the gun and like a manifesto with him in a McDonald's in Pennsylvania. | ||
And he was recognized even though pictures of him hadn't really been released yet. | ||
I don't, yeah, the whole thing is very, very shaky to me. | ||
The official story and the speculation. | ||
We'll get into all of it. | ||
Meanwhile, Israel pounds Syrian army bases denies deeper incursion Really amazing | ||
stuff. | ||
Hundreds of bombing campaigns into Syria. | ||
In a weird... | ||
Balancing act, I think. | ||
It's all very strange. | ||
If you're looking at it from the perspective of a place like Lebanon, you've got Israel trying to invade from the south. | ||
You have a lifeline to Iran, through Iraq, through Syria, into Lebanon. | ||
Syria gets taken out. | ||
Now you've got terrorists and ISIS that you've been fighting for 15 years on your northern border, Israel on your southern border. | ||
But now Israel is bombing the ISIS people and putting them out of commission and taking away their weapons, which in a way is a benefit if you're Lebanon. | ||
It's... | ||
It's sort of a naturally occurring balancing act going on right now with America and Israel bombing the hell out of Syrian, well, weapons reserves or apartment buildings or whatever they choose. | ||
Meanwhile, embattled Trump nominees Hegseth and Gabbard visit Senate seeking support. | ||
Two of President-elect Donald Trump's most controversial nominees, Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard, sought support from U.S. senators on Monday. | ||
But it remained uncertain whether they would get the near unanimous Republican backing that they need to win the confirmation. | ||
According to Tom Cotton, all Trump nominees will be confirmed. | ||
It seems like the Senate is lining up. | ||
And again, I just think we need to continue to be sending messages to the Senate. | ||
It doesn't matter if you still have institutional power. | ||
If you want to continue to have any power at all in the next election, you need to get on board the MAGA train. | ||
You need to stop being rats. | ||
You need to stop being Republicans against Trump. | ||
These pointless obstacles to our making America better again, making America great again. | ||
You need to get out of the way or get on board. | ||
We're happy to have you, but you've got to get out of the way or we're going to destroy you politically. | ||
I think that needs to be the message, and maybe they're getting that message. | ||
Meanwhile, I don't even remember. | ||
When was Daniel Penny acquitted? | ||
Was that after the show? | ||
I have this headline because I legitimately couldn't remember if we'd covered this yesterday. | ||
NYC subway chokehold death Daniel Penny acquitted. | ||
The Marine veteran who used a chokehold on an agitated subway rider was acquitted on Monday in a death that became a prism for differing views about public safety, valor, and vigilantism. | ||
You know, even if I did cover it yesterday, let's just celebrate it again. | ||
Let's just talk about it again because it's such an unexpected and positive news story. | ||
We'll actually show you a video of Daniel Penny immediately after the acquittal. | ||
It's just great. | ||
Great. | ||
It really is. | ||
Finally, we have this. | ||
FBI Director Christopher Wray plans to resign on or before Inauguration Day. | ||
The Washington Times has learned Mr Wray is calling it quits because he does not want to get fired by President-elect Donald Trump, according to sources inside the bureau who are familiar with the director's thinking. | ||
He's going to be gone at inauguration on or before the inauguration, a source said. | ||
Following Mr. Ray's departure, Deputy Director Paul Abate would become Acting Director and would appoint an Acting Deputy Director. | ||
Mr. Abate's original plan was to stay until May or June so he could help with the transition to a new FBI Director who will be Kash Patel if he is confirmed by Senate Republicans who he's meeting with this week. | ||
So that's your Daily Dispatch. | ||
Again folks, we are hanging in the balance, InfoWars. | ||
It's still at the mercy of the court in Houston, Texas. | ||
We will be back in the hearing later today at around 1.30 p.m. | ||
And if it goes until 9 and a third day is scheduled, then we'll be back here to tell you about it tomorrow. | ||
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Let's go quickly to clip number seven. | ||
This is Daniel Penney interviewed after his acquittal celebrating freedom in a bar. | ||
Let's watch. | ||
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How are you feeling? | |
Yeah, it's great. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's feeling good. | ||
What's up? | ||
What's up together? | ||
How's it going? | ||
How's it feel? | ||
Feels great. | ||
He's finally got the justice he's deserved. | ||
Did you think it was gonna happen? | ||
Sorry? | ||
No, we think that this should have happened probably on day one, but the point thing is it happened. | ||
So we can't control the timing of it, but we can certainly savor the outcome. | ||
And why do you think it was not guilty? | ||
Ask him. | ||
Well, he's not guilty on a few different reasons. | ||
His actions were justified. | ||
He was trying to help people on that train, and he did. | ||
And number two, he's not responsible for the death because the death was caused by a lot of other factors that we tried to present with a lot of clarity, such as the K2 abuse and the sickle cell, the sickling crisis, and cardiac issues. | ||
Not to mention the paranoid schizophrenia, which only added to that impact. | ||
So I'm just glad that the jury was able to truly evaluate that. | ||
Kyle Rittenhouse posted yesterday, like, you know, there are a few out there that can even understand the feeling that Daniel Penny is going through right now. | ||
And, of course, it was on the year anniversary of Owen Schroer being released. | ||
And if you remember seeing videos from him, they just had, you know, a different spirit. | ||
And I've even had it in my own life where, like, you know, you think you're going to be in trouble and then you're let out. | ||
And it's like being born again. | ||
So congratulations to Daniel Penny. | ||
I hope he moves far, far away from New York City. | ||
I hope he gets a job in a cornfield somewhere and has a lovely rest of his life. | ||
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All right, welcome back. | |
We got a lot of information about this. | ||
Luigi Mangione. | ||
Which, you know, the first surprise, we had been told, I mean, the description of the shooter had been that he was white. | ||
But he's Italian. | ||
I'm sorry, they are? | ||
Since when? | ||
Okay, alright, never mind. | ||
Apparently Italians are white. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
The name of Luigi Mangione. | ||
Now look, I don't know if this guy is the right guy. | ||
I got some suspicions about it for one thing. | ||
He, to me, doesn't look like the guy in the video. | ||
And we talked a little bit about sort of every time they showed a picture that they claimed was this guy. | ||
He looked totally different. | ||
His backpack was a different color. | ||
His jacket was a different color. | ||
He had different pockets on his jacket. | ||
Like, it was a little suspicious already. | ||
Then they arrested this guy. | ||
The way it was originally reported didn't make any sense. | ||
They were like, he used a fake ID at McDonald's? | ||
I was like, who uses an ID at McDonald's? | ||
What was he getting ID'd for at McDonald's? | ||
That doesn't make any sense. | ||
I don't know if that was just a misreporting. | ||
Apparently it was a McDonald's worker that recognized him. | ||
Again, even that, it's like, I think maybe at that point there was one picture of his actual face, the one where he was smiling. | ||
But you can't see his hair. | ||
You can't see anything other than just a portion of his face at an angle. | ||
He looked like anybody. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I can't imagine seeing the pictures that we saw of him and then identifying him through that. | ||
It just seems... | ||
Thank you. | ||
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Not... | |
I don't know. | ||
Look, I'm just a little bit suspicious of it, is all. | ||
But since announcing this guy, people have done research into him. | ||
New York Times has a story how photographs led police to suspect and UnitedHealthcare CEO killing. | ||
Eyes, not tech, led police to suspects and CEO killing. | ||
The key was not advanced facial recognition technology. | ||
An employee at a Pennsylvania McDonald's reported the man after seeing a widely circulated image of the suspect. | ||
After the shooting of Brian Thompson, the chief executive of UnitedHealthcare last Wednesday, the New York Police Department began releasing a steady drip of images. | ||
The photos taken together appear to show a young man with light skin and dark features. | ||
One photo crucially showed his entire face. | ||
Even as the police recovered what they called an enormous amount of forensic evidence and video, it was that specific photo that led to the arrest of a man on Monday about 300 miles from New York City in Pennsylvania. | ||
Altoona, Pennsylvania. | ||
An employee spotted a man who looked like the person in the photos and called the police who detained the man for questioning. | ||
He apparently had the gun with him. | ||
He had a manifesto and he had some cash apparently. | ||
Now, he reportedly refused to talk to police. | ||
It's probably a smart move. | ||
The only person he did talk to was the judge in the case. | ||
And he said some interesting things. | ||
I want to go to a local news report on this. | ||
Clip number 13, Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the UnitedHealthcareCEO murder. | ||
Hence, he's being framed. | ||
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Sure thing, Aaron. | |
Well, yeah, I'll say just about an hour ago, I was there inside that courthouse watching as Luigi Mangione walked right past myself and a number of other reporters. | ||
He was wearing a blue shirt, blue jeans. | ||
He was, of course, handcuffed. | ||
And he looked, even in this court appearance, visibly distressed, but he kept his brow furrowed through the duration of this Arraignment hearing. | ||
And I should say what was interesting though, Aaron, is you said we haven't heard a statement from the suspect. | ||
He did actually speak inside of that courtroom to the judge and to all the folks who are in there. | ||
But it was on very selective issues. | ||
And I'll just kind of go through what we heard. | ||
The judge asked Luigi Mangione a number of questions first about his identity. | ||
So Mr. Mangione confirmed that that is his real name. | ||
He initially said that his residence was in Maryland, but then the judge actually pressed him on that. | ||
And then he said, actually, I have lived at various addresses before then ultimately giving an address in Honolulu, Hawaii. | ||
Then he also said that he's worked for three years as a data engineer up until about a year ago. | ||
And he also told the judge that he has no drug or mental health problems that the court needs to know about. | ||
But Aaron, one of the most interesting parts of that particular hearing was actually his statements after the conversation about bail. | ||
The prosecutors basically stepped up there and made the case why they believe that this man should be held without bail. | ||
They mentioned that he is awaiting, potentially, an arrest warrant coming from New York City as one of the major reasons. | ||
But they also said that prosecutors noted that they found him with $8,000 in US cash, $2,000 in foreign currency, his passport, And also a Faraday bag, which is basically a bag designed to stop transmission of cell service or other sort of things like that. | ||
At the end of his speech, the prosecutor's speech, Luigi Mangiani said, I actually want to address two of the things that you said. | ||
He said, I don't know where that money came from. | ||
I'm not sure if it was planted. | ||
And then he also said that that bag was waterproof. | ||
And the term that the prosecutors used when discussing the Faraday bag, the ghost guns, the 3D printed silencer, was the prosecutors used a phrase saying this is criminal sophistication. | ||
Luigi Mangione said, I don't know about any of this criminal sophistication when addressing that. | ||
But it's just interesting, Aaron, that of all of the things that were mentioned in that court appearance, the two that he noted or took issue with was the currency and then that bag. | ||
Aaron? | ||
So that's pretty interesting. | ||
Says he doesn't know where the money came from. | ||
Luigi Mangione, 26, of Maryland, was carrying a gun, a silencer, and some sort of manifesto, the police said. | ||
Chief Kenny said it was hard to credit the breaking the case to any one moment or piece of evidence, but if he had to, it would be the release of that photograph to the media. | ||
And again, you know. | ||
I... I see people even on our side sort of celebrating this or sort of acting like this is inevitable. | ||
But it's not. | ||
It's not good. | ||
I don't know if it's just the modern world and the fact that we are so just selfish these days. | ||
There's the Stalinist quote, or Stalin quote, where he says, you know, one death is a tragedy, but a million is a statistic. | ||
I think that's giving the communists too much credit. | ||
I think the communists don't see a single death as a tragedy either. | ||
I think they've so thoroughly demonized everybody else. | ||
They really are just bloodthirsty worms. | ||
And I think if you... | ||
And again, I said this on the first day that it happened. | ||
Like, yeah, everybody gets frustrated at the increasingly inhuman corporate interactions that we have. | ||
And it gets to a point that, like, you know, you want to throw a brick through a shop window or something. | ||
Or shoot the CEO. I get the impulse. | ||
Trust me, I've been on hold as well. | ||
And so people are just taking that and just being like, yeah, well, you know, CEOs are evil. | ||
Well, healthcare kills lots of people either. | ||
Anyway, so kill this guy. | ||
And it's like, what are you talking about? | ||
What are you talking about? | ||
He was like a father of two. | ||
As far as I can tell, he was kind of one of the good ones. | ||
In fact, you know, I looked into this. | ||
What I said back when it happened on the 6th, people celebrating the CEO assassination don't actually care who he is or what he did. | ||
They're the same people that celebrated the deaths of Aaron Danielson, Ashley Babbitt, and Corey Compatori. | ||
They're just bloodthirsty worms. | ||
And they are. | ||
For the most part, it is. | ||
It's just leftists that... | ||
We'll laugh at you if you're, you know, a Trump supporter that gets murdered. | ||
They think it's funny. | ||
They think it's good. | ||
They don't care. | ||
It's not like this guy was some particularly bad guy that they're like, can point to him and go, he's killed lots of people, so he deserves it. | ||
It was just, all they know about him was he was a CEO. He was a white guy, right? | ||
He was just some dude from the Midwest that was high up in his corporate company. | ||
Again, you know, I think people also have a... | ||
A wrong perspective about how many millionaires there are or something. | ||
I said something else later where I said... | ||
I actually like that we live in a country and it's kind of always been a point of pride for Americans that rich people just look like everybody else. | ||
That if you were on a New York street and you saw Brian Thompson walking past you, you'd never be like, that guy is super important. | ||
He's a CEO. He's worth tens of millions of dollars. | ||
He just looked like some dude. | ||
You would have thought there's a baseball coach on vacation from Minnesota or something. | ||
He just seemed like a normal dude. | ||
And that's how it should be. | ||
There shouldn't be privileges. | ||
There shouldn't be a stratification of our society where the wealthy are ensconced in their towers and surrounded by bodyguards and the plebs are out wandering around on their own. | ||
it's actually like a very American thing to have a CEO, somebody worth millions of dollars standing in line next to the, you know, construction worker experiencing the same thing, having the same life, having the same protection from the police, not having to worry about being stabbed or assassinated because we have such a powerful system that even like corporate enemies know that they'd only make everything worse by trying to do something outside the legal system. | ||
Like we have a powerful system that keeps people safe and, That makes, you know, violent, you know, resorting to violence never the preferable or effective option. | ||
We have, at least in our, you know, image of ourselves, this idea of equality even between the rich and poor that it doesn't matter who you are. | ||
And, you know, obviously it's not exactly like that. | ||
But it's not like every millionaire is flying on a helicopter to get lunch and surrounded by a phalanx of bodyguards. | ||
People have that idea. | ||
It's like, just think about your city. | ||
If you live in a big city, think about the nicest neighborhood in your city. | ||
Tens of thousands of homes, every one of which you have to be making more than $5 million to sustain. | ||
Even if the house only costs $5 million, you gotta fill it up with $10 million worth of art. | ||
Think about the tens of thousands of millionaires that just live in every city. | ||
They don't live in castles. | ||
There aren't a very few number of them. | ||
There's a lot of really wealthy people in America, except for they'll have a nicer car, or they'll live in a nicer neighborhood, or they'll go to fancy clubs that cost $100,000 a year. | ||
Yeah, they live a different life than most of us, but not so different That it's like oligarchs after the fall of communism in Russia. | ||
But that's sort of where we're headed, right? | ||
We're sort of headed towards, I think someone referenced like Argentina in the 70s. | ||
We're headed towards third world socialist hellhole status because what do you think is going to happen now? | ||
Now that everybody's celebrating this guy, they're like, you go on Reddit, I got, you know... | ||
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Troves. | |
Pages, troves, trove, binders full of psychos on Reddit celebrating this and acting like this guy's a hero, like he did something brave or good in any way. | ||
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Can I underscore that point that you just made, though? | |
Yeah. | ||
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You said that people who are in the upper earners group in society, they're not that different morally. | |
And I would have to agree on a lot of different levels. | ||
And I think that when we look at One of the things that we cover, which is like DEI or, you know, all these equity standards or, you know, a lot of people in upper management positions, people who are high earners, right, are typically very moral people, right? | ||
And they've got good intentions, right? | ||
And a lot of these things that are presented with noble motives, Right? | ||
Like, everyone wants, you know, equity and inclusion, right? | ||
It's when it's forced upon organizations in a very rigid standard, right, that it actually dilutes, you know, it does the opposite of what the intention is. | ||
Right. | ||
But the reason they get it in is because the people at the top Are willing to go along with it because they're good people. | ||
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They're not Mr. Daddy Warbucks swimming in pools of cash. | |
Maybe a couple, but just for the memes. | ||
And look, You can dislike those people. | ||
We, you know, every day, all day, we're talking about billionaires like George Soros and Bill Gates. | ||
I mean, these are people that are, like, demonically driven to, like, kill people or, you know, scheme and rig things and let criminals out of prison. | ||
I mean, they're bad people. | ||
These are not good people. | ||
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They drink baby's blood. | |
They literally drink blood. | ||
So, you know, but then, like, there's this socialist idea where it's just like, well, he was a CEO, so he deserved to die. | ||
Because he was, and again, the ultimate irony is, and I couldn't find one particular video, but I've heard it a whole bunch. | ||
People complain a lot about UnitedHealthcare and say that they are the biggest, they have the highest rate of denial of service, and they're really bad, and they're a bad insurance company. | ||
But everything I found of people talking about UHC and complaining about it, they all mention that it's the Medicare cases that are so bad. | ||
So it's like you have people out here going, health insurance is terrible. | ||
Everybody should be on Medicare. | ||
But if you look at the actual complaints about the insurance company, they almost all have to do with Medicare. | ||
It's Medicare, Medicaid. | ||
It's these governmental organizations that everybody's really complaining about and that the insurance companies have to deal with. | ||
And again, I don't want to like, you know, I'm not here to simp for insurance companies. | ||
But at the same time, you're talking about murdering a dude. | ||
You're talking about Like, boys in high school whose dad won't see them graduate. | ||
Who are gonna have a, you know, an empty chair at Christmas dinner. | ||
And you think it's worth it because the guy, you know, got paid a million... | ||
I think he got paid $1.5 million a year was his salary. | ||
That's, like, not even that much these days. | ||
You know, I think... | ||
Not for a CEO. It came down to $10 million with, like, stock options and stuff, but, like... | ||
So is that the line? | ||
So if you make more than a million dollars a year, you should be shot in the back walking down the street? | ||
And do you think that is feasible at all? | ||
Like, what do you think is going to happen now? | ||
All that's going to happen is the executives in any even remotely contentious industry like the insurance companies will go, hey... | ||
We got these millions of psychopathic, retarded college students out of their mind on ayahuasca who think they're heroes for shooting us. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
I need a security detail. | ||
I need to be protected. | ||
I need at least a bodyguard if I'm going to go outside. | ||
I probably need a driver too. | ||
If I'm going to travel anywhere, it needs to be on a private jet. | ||
And the company needs to pay for that because it's this position that puts me in this vulnerable state. | ||
So prices are going to go up. | ||
They're going to get paid more to get a security detail. | ||
And they'll be that much more separate and isolated away from everybody else. | ||
Like, I don't get how people don't understand what the obvious—CEOs aren't just going to be like, oh, I guess I better give them what they want. | ||
I guess I better die, or I guess I better, you know, stop making money for my company. | ||
Like, no, they're just going to hire bodyguards. | ||
It's not that complicated. | ||
So all you're doing, and it's kind of perfect because it's literally what happens in every socialist or communist nation. | ||
It is that bifurcation, the separation, the splitting of the population into the massive amount of super poor people and the very, very small number of super rich people. | ||
And this only contributes to that. | ||
Opens up volcanic anger towards health insurance agencies. | ||
So if you're out there mad at health insurance agencies and all you're doing is contributing to CEOs and wealthy people being paid more, getting security details, feeling even more untouchable, being that much more separate from common society. | ||
And that's just what's going to happen. | ||
Complain about it all you want. | ||
You know, people out there going, that's just how it is now. | ||
CEOs aren't safe anymore. | ||
It's like, no, they're still safe. | ||
They're still safe. | ||
They're just not going to, like, interact with regular people ever again. | ||
So they're just going to isolate themselves more and be less concerned about the average person because they interact with them less. | ||
I mean, what do you think is going to happen? | ||
They're destroying the American experiment in a very real way. | ||
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And so we're just going to be like every other If I were to war game this with you though, you know, for someone who may be aligned with values of like anti-gun type values, right? | |
Wouldn't this be like a win-win move in a, in a, in a, someone who's warped, right? | ||
They're like, oh yeah, you know, this is going to force the national debate, the national discussion. | ||
I'm going to really, you know, move, move public discourse forward on one of, one of two things, right? | ||
And the fact that it was like a 3D printed gun in and of itself, you know... | ||
Has that been confirmed? | ||
I saw rumors of that. | ||
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I haven't confirmed that, but I've seen rumors of it, right? | |
Whether or not it was 3D printed or not. | ||
I think you said like homemade, and I don't know if that means... | ||
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It would explain the fact that, you know, the gun wasn't cycling through the rounds properly, but at the same time, you know... | |
We'll get to that stuff. | ||
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Let's not demonize 3D printed guns either. | |
Yeah, we'll get to that stuff. | ||
On your first point, the point about, like, gun control. | ||
I said on the first day, like, what do you think is going to happen? | ||
They're going to, CEOs are going to hire bodyguards who have guns and are licensed to have guns, even in New York City, because they're going to hire professional outfits that are, you know, have the ability to bribe the politicians or just go through the process. | ||
Private security. | ||
Yeah, they're going to hire private security, and they're probably going to advocate for you to not have guns anymore. | ||
They probably are. | ||
They're going to go, wow, you know... | ||
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You need to be licensed in order to have a firearm, and the licensing is going to take, you know... | |
Yeah. | ||
So this is the thing. | ||
Right. | ||
So if you're anti-gun, you think like, oh, this is going to... | ||
Now the CEOs will be on our side, because they'll want to get rid of guns, because they won't want to be killed. | ||
It's like, no, they're going to be surrounded by guns, and everybody else is not going to have them. | ||
So now you're setting up your enemies as like an untouchable... | ||
You know, demigod with the sole monopoly on force. | ||
Because they can pay for it. | ||
I don't know. | ||
People just don't think two steps. | ||
They think one step. | ||
There's like, a CEO killed? | ||
Good. | ||
I'm sad. | ||
I'm gratified. | ||
Like, okay, but what happens next? | ||
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Did you see? | |
Did you see on that section right there? | ||
There is a Reddit post. | ||
It's AskReddit. | ||
On the front page of Reddit... | ||
On Ask Reddit, list of most evil CEOs, right? | ||
That's what made it to the front page this morning. | ||
Oh, and I'm sure it's Elon Musk, right? | ||
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It's that one right there. | |
Yeah, who's on your list of evil CEOs? | ||
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Right. | |
Who's on your list? | ||
My list is Elon Musk, Donald Trump. | ||
And, you know, whoever else. | ||
It's just stupid. | ||
But look, this is where, and we're going to stick on this for a little bit, because again, it's not even about this killing, although I'm suspicious of it. | ||
It's a unique event. | ||
I said the day that it happened, I think this is going to become a regular thing. | ||
I think more people are going to do this. | ||
I think people are going to be inspired by this. | ||
And I think they're going to You know, do copycat crimes. | ||
Maybe against the CEO that they particularly identify as bad, or maybe against just like somebody random. | ||
In this case, it seems like somebody almost totally random. | ||
But we'll get into the manifesto he supposedly wrote. | ||
This guy was kind of an idiot. | ||
I hate to say. | ||
He went to an Ivy League school. | ||
He's so smart. | ||
This guy was kind of stupid, I gotta say. | ||
And we'll get into why that is. | ||
But this post is just like amazing. | ||
This sums up the whole thing. | ||
UHC CEO assassination as the unhinged id of Assella, I don't know what that means, America lashing out against middle American success. | ||
This is from Avid Halabi on X. | ||
Says, read the class political angle. | ||
It's kind of crazy that a guy whose dad was a grain elevator worker in Iowa, went to public high school, then University of Iowa, and led a seemingly normal life while working his way up the corporate ladder, was killed by a guy who went to a $40,000 a year prep school, got two Ivy League degrees, and spent his time a year prep school, got two Ivy League degrees, and spent his time on pseudo-intellectual online discourse before possibly going insane after I heard this guy's got a PhD. | ||
Yeah, apparently he does. | ||
PhD and a childish sense of humor. | ||
So, who's the hero here? | ||
The people that are celebrating this, they're like, yeah, where's your privilege now, CEOs? | ||
It's like, the CEO was a regular dude whose dad worked in a grain elevator and who, through sheer hard work and the beauty of the American system and the American university system, He was able to make a very comfortable living for himself while also doing what he could, and according to reports, and I'll show you them in a second, to actually fix some of the corporate culture at these places. | ||
This seems to always happen. | ||
You know, it's like Gavrilo Precept killed Archduke Ferdinand, and Archduke Ferdinand was like one of the only people that was actually trying to help out the Serbs and get them equal rights. | ||
Brian Thompson apparently was one of the only people at UHC that was actually concerned about the number of people they were denying and wanted to reform the company culture to be more human. | ||
It actually said that he was working right now on, in his own words, what he said was, I want to pay out doctors who keep their patients healthy, not doctors who only treat people when they're sick. | ||
That's exactly what we want. | ||
That's exactly what everybody wants. | ||
The whole sickness, no pun intended, of the medical industry is that they're incentivized to keep people sick. | ||
They're incentivized to keep people on medicine that they keep having to re-up or do surgeries that keep them bedridden for a year so they can milk the insurance company and the insurance company can pass that On to its customers. | ||
So here's this guy, Brian Thompson, who's trying to fix that and trying to reform our insurance system after having worked his way up through the corporate ladder with no privilege or help or rich family to help him. | ||
Then he's murdered by a dude that's from one of the richest families in Maryland whose uncle, I believe, is a congressman. | ||
Totally inverted. | ||
We'll get more into it on the other side. | ||
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | |
We got a lot to talk about. | ||
I mean, there's still developments in the Middle East going on right now. | ||
Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel are meeting with senators on Capitol Hill trying to shore up their nominations. | ||
There's Disease X that they're following in the Congo. | ||
Apparently there's some new disease that's killing people. | ||
Now, if I was in charge, let me tell you, as soon as something called Disease X pops up, I'm isolating that whole area. | ||
Okay, but that's not what they're doing, because that's not what they're actually interested in. | ||
If you have some village in the Congo that's got a disease, guess what? | ||
With modern technology... | ||
That doesn't have to go anywhere. | ||
You can isolate that village. | ||
You can have nobody come and go except for healthcare workers to go in and test it and figure out what's going on. | ||
But that never needs to go anywhere. | ||
But you remember what happened with monkeypox? | ||
Remember monkeypox? | ||
The whole outbreak started at one particular gay orgy on an island. | ||
They had the names of the 500 people that were there. | ||
And could have easily just, like, isolated that island or found every single one of the 500 people and said, go immediately to a hospital and isolate until you're cleared of symptoms. | ||
They could have just stopped it in its tracks. | ||
Boom! | ||
Immediately. | ||
Which is another one of these things. | ||
Another one of these things where, like, when you realize how easy it would be to solve any of these problems, what becomes obvious is that the people in charge are not interested in solving these problems at all. | ||
So right now, there's Disease X going on in the Congo, which if the World Health Organization was worth... | ||
Two cents, let alone the hundreds of billions they get, then it would never even be a threat to anybody else. | ||
But it is a threat because they want it to be. | ||
So we need to get into that. | ||
We'll talk about that. | ||
We have other stuff to talk about. | ||
There's so much conversation about this Mangione, Luigi Mangione, and it's become such a big topic of conversation. | ||
And as we've been pointing out, you know, Reddit is celebrating this guy. | ||
We even have corporations getting in on it. | ||
The person of interest, the Luigi Mangione, was identified at McDonald's and Burger King tweeted out, we don't snitch, which is pretty funny. | ||
I mean, that is pretty funny. | ||
I kind of like that. | ||
I'm not going to lie. | ||
We don't snitch. | ||
That's some good old-fashioned edgy corporate, you know, activity. | ||
It's kind of funny, I guess. | ||
To me, it's very disturbing seeing what this country is becoming. | ||
We have on the front page of Reddit, who's on your list of evil CEOs? | ||
Who do you want to kill because you're not happy with your insurance coverage? | ||
Ridiculous. | ||
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So what you're saying is Antifa eats at Burger King? | |
Antifa eats at Burger King. | ||
Yeah, well done, Burger King. | ||
That'll save you. | ||
Police detained somebody in PA McDonald's with a gun, a silencer, and a New Jersey fake ID. This was at the top of one of the most popular subreddits. | ||
Why the F didn't he just use the drive-thru? | ||
Yeah, good one. | ||
That's so funny, man. | ||
Reddit. | ||
Can't believe it's, you know, become such a hellish backwater. | ||
This is from... | ||
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4chan. | |
Born into a wealthy family, attends $40,000 a year private school, becomes valedictorian, earns a bachelor and master's in computer science by 26, no criminal record, no behavioral red flags, clean slate, sharp-dressed, phonogenic, Chad, inactive on social media, vacations abroad, posts polished photos, looks like he's thriving, | ||
lands internship and builds a resume that screams success, spends free time exploring AI, mushrooms and self-optimization trends, writes a Goodreads review on Ted Kaczynski, sprinkles in safe edgy, Content. | ||
What happened? | ||
What happened here? | ||
We'll get into some of the speculation. | ||
Apparently, he wrote a manifesto that includes discussion of, like, his mom going through a bunch of healthcare issues. | ||
But even reading through that... | ||
It's like the medical industry threw everything they had to try to help his mom. | ||
She's doing surgeries and CAT scans and all sorts of stuff, and it doesn't work out, and so he kills some random dude. | ||
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Welcome back, folks. | |
We're going to continue to break down who this Luigi Mangione character was. | ||
Is... | ||
The guy who killed the CEO of the insurance wing of UnitedHealthcare. | ||
Let me just talk about him quickly. | ||
Because again, I see people on the right. | ||
Oh yeah, and thanks to Rex Dwight on Twitter, he pointed out to me, Acela, A-C-E-L-A, from the tweet I covered earlier, refers to the Boston to Washington, D.C. Amtrak train corridor. | ||
So that megalopolis, that megacity between Boston to New York to D.C., it's all one city. | ||
If you've ever driven through it, you never leave a city. | ||
It's terrifying. | ||
So I guess that's what he was saying, was that this is the ultimate revenge from these Northeast elite scumbags against regular hardworking Americans who didn't get a leg up, whose fathers were grain elevator operators in Iowa, and yet worked their way up to the upper echelons. | ||
Very ironic, all of this, I think. | ||
Tim on Point on X put out an extensive tweet on this that I think is interesting. | ||
He says, many of you don't realize the significance of the murder of Brian Thompson. | ||
He says, I just wrapped a long discussion with one of the best minds in executive protection. | ||
We both agreed that this murder is a cusp event. | ||
If Luigi Mangione is the killer of Brian Thompson, he has not been charged yet. | ||
And if the stated backstory holds true, you're going to see a thing that you're not mentally prepared for. | ||
Some thoughts. | ||
One, the murderer is already seen as a folk hero to people on all sides of the social and political spectrum. | ||
The shooter made this murder a performance. | ||
He wrote and acted his own revenge movie. | ||
It's the reason why we're so captured by the news. | ||
It's terrible, weird, and captivating. | ||
We all feel like we've seen this movie before. | ||
It's difficult to separate the wrongness of murder from the fictional story of justice we've enjoyed in the theater. | ||
There's also a large number of people who will say that the murder is wrong, but they can't help but feel a small sense of justice and or sympathy. | ||
Humans are messy like that. | ||
Healthcare companies are disliked by most people. | ||
Almost everyone has a personal bad experience, particularly where insurance is the topic. | ||
The most likely outcome here is that the murderer goes to life for prison, as he should, but as a dark underdog or even hero to many who hold legitimate grudges against certain companies. | ||
There are many copycats looking at this story and making plans, writing their script. | ||
Do they follow through? | ||
I can't say, but a genre of crime has just been reincarnated. | ||
Billy the Kid, Bonnie and Clyde, bad people with favorable folk tales. | ||
I'm very curious to watch how today's thought leaders field this one. | ||
Last thought, if I'm a high-up CEO, high-visibility CEO, or other public figure in an industry with a strong negative sentiment, I'm rethinking my entire pattern of life. | ||
A red line has been crossed, and it can't be uncrossed. | ||
So again, pointing out what I'm saying, that like, yeah, if I was a CEO of a healthcare company, I would be demanding that my company pay for a security detail for me. | ||
Because obviously... | ||
You know, this guy is being celebrated as a hero very openly. | ||
You even have this from the national desk. | ||
Rats everywhere. | ||
Backlash hits McDonald's after arrest of CEO shooting suspect. | ||
It's so widespread in America now that a corporation is going to receive negative press, maybe have their stock price drop because one of their employees identified a murderer. | ||
This is the straight up inversion of morality in America where you stop a psychopath from attacking people on a train and you'll be facing life in prison. | ||
If you call the police because you think a murder suspect is in your restaurant, your restaurant might suffer severely for that. | ||
And eventually gets to the point, like we're seeing in places like Germany, where an American girl is now facing years in prison because she used a knife against a Muslim rapist who was attacking her. | ||
That's eventually where this ends up. | ||
Just total inversion where literally the criminals are celebrated as heroes and the heroes are demonized as criminals. | ||
And all of this just sort of folds into this. | ||
I see echoes of this sentiment throughout this story and so many other stories we cover. | ||
But again, looking at who this CEO was, because like I pointed out, the people celebrating the murder of the CEO, they didn't know who he was. | ||
He wasn't a particularly bad guy that people were, you know, would celebrate being killed. | ||
And even on the show, like we have enemies, we have people that we know and I characterize very accurately as mass murderers. | ||
See, I don't want them killed by a vigilante. | ||
I don't want them made martyrs. | ||
I don't want them to be just killed by some random person so that the establishment can... | ||
Turn around and go, this is what happens when misinformation about health gets out there. | ||
We have to censor even more and ban guns while we're at it. | ||
I like to think about things strategically. | ||
And strategically, what I want at the end of the day is for us to have a powerful and robust system that doesn't give privileges and allow for the skating of corporate criminals. | ||
In order to achieve that, the last thing that we want is people to Killing them randomly. | ||
Well, maybe it's not the last thing we want, but it's certainly not the top of the list. | ||
He said, call me crazy, the fact that American millionaires and CEOs walk around without bodyguards, no different than anyone else, is part of our greatness. | ||
Executives are just going to start giving themselves security detail stipends and be surrounded by bodyguards like some sort of socialist hellhole. | ||
That's what always happens, and you just have to picture any Eastern European country or South American country. | ||
And you don't have millionaires and CEOs just walking around. | ||
Everybody's behind a gate. | ||
Everybody's in gated communities. | ||
Their houses are all surrounded by fences. | ||
They have bodyguards or cartel members that protect them. | ||
They are armed. | ||
They are all-powerful. | ||
And everybody else is disarmed and helpless. | ||
I don't like that. | ||
That's not what America is about. | ||
Again, I say the CEO who was killed, Brian Thompson, was working to support doctors who, quote, keep patients healthy rather than treating them when they get sick and seemed to be the only executive that cared about patients. | ||
But he was a rich white guy, so I guess he deserved it. | ||
News from a couple profiles shortly after the shooting occurred. | ||
They say, at an investor meeting last year, Brian Thompson outlined UnitedHealth's shift to, quote, value-based care, paying doctors and other caregivers to keep patients healthy rather than focusing on treating them when they get sick. | ||
Again, I think it would be a positive development. | ||
It's one of our main concerns about the healthcare industry is it pays to keep people sick. | ||
A longtime employee of UnitedHealthcare said that workers of the company had been aware for years that members were unhappy. | ||
Mr. Thompson was one of the few executives who wanted to do something about it, said the employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the company does not allow workers to speak publicly without permission. | ||
In speeches to employees, Mr. Thompson spoke about the need to change the state of health care coverage in the country and the culture of the company, topics other executives avoided, the employee said. | ||
Even if you're trying to go after the CEOs, this is not the guy that you want to go after. | ||
Seems to be a guy that at least in some way is trying to correct the problems that so many people have. | ||
Mimetic Sisyphus on X put it this way. | ||
This is the perfect encapsulation of what the far left is. | ||
They mock the death of a CEO and the fear his colleagues are experiencing while they defend violent homeless men. | ||
They're simply anti-civilization and should be treated as such. | ||
And so it shows this Talia Jane retweets this picture of the guy with his glasses on in response to these stories about major health care companies are taking down pages on their website that list their leadership. | ||
Talia Jane's like yeah you better you better watch out there's vigilantes out there. | ||
Meanwhile Jordan Neely was an unhoused Michael Jackson impersonator. | ||
He begged a train car for food and became upset about being ignored. | ||
Daniel Penny, a blonde former Marine from Long Island, interpreted Neely's frustration as a threat, grabbing and choking him for six minutes. | ||
This is... | ||
This is not my side. | ||
Whatever this side is, it's not the American side. | ||
It's not the patriotic side. | ||
It's not the Christian side. | ||
It's some sort of just relentlessly petty and petulant psychopath side. | ||
That's the side they're on. | ||
You're a crazy, drugged-out homeless man who's been arrested 44 times and has already assaulted an old lady in a subway car, broke her orbital bone in her nose, punching her so hard. | ||
Out there doing it again, threatening more people, saying I'm not afraid to go to jail, scaring the crap out of the old ladies and young children on the train car. | ||
You're a hero, okay? | ||
But if you're just some dude from the Midwest that got a job at an insurance company and worked his way up to CEO, you are the devil and you have to be hunted down and killed. | ||
Like, these people are psychos, man. | ||
And I'm telling you, Luigi Mangione, kind of an idiot. | ||
He's kind of an idiot. | ||
Everything we've seen from him, and I'm just assuming, like, for this segment, we're just going on the assumption that this really is Luigi Mangione, he really is the main suspect and likely killer, and that these things being posted as his manifesto are legitimate. | ||
They seem to be. | ||
Just that's a little caveat. | ||
There's been very little official information about this to say exactly how this works, but Zero HP Lovecraft on X calls this portion of the manifesto, vapid narcissistic Reddit BS. There's nothing here, no ideology to pin it on, except that of pop culture. | ||
His story is a sad one, but the only substance here is confusion. | ||
What this Mangione guy says is he's like, Nelson Mandela says no form of violence can be excused. | ||
Camus said it's all the same whether you live or die or have a cup of coffee. | ||
MLK says violence never brings permanent peace. | ||
Gandhi says that nonviolence is the mightiest power available to mankind. | ||
That's who they tell you are heroes. | ||
That's who our revolutionaries are. | ||
Yet is that not capitalistic? | ||
Nonviolence keeps the system working at full speed ahead. | ||
Look what did it get us. | ||
Look in the mirror. | ||
Okay, the most successful country in the history of the world. | ||
It got us just... | ||
Anyway, we don't need to get into it. | ||
But, you know, pulled everybody out of poverty and created everything that makes your life as comfortable as it is. | ||
Not good enough, I guess. | ||
It's that damn capitalism added again. | ||
Which is hilarious because, you know, obviously there's Gandhi, there's MLK, there's Mandela. | ||
Not that Mandela was peaceful. | ||
He was a terrorist. | ||
But there's also George Washington, isn't there? | ||
There's also Sam Houston. | ||
There's also heroes in our past that stood up and fought righteous battles, won against impossible odds. | ||
I wonder how this guy feels about the founding fathers, right? | ||
After all, they created the most capitalistic nation in the world. | ||
How evil. | ||
Meanwhile, what he continues to say is, they want us to be nonviolent so that they can grow fat off the blood they take from us. | ||
Wow, very powerful imagery. | ||
The only way out is through. | ||
Not all of us will make it. | ||
Each one of us is our own chief executive. | ||
You have to decide what you will tolerate. | ||
He says, Yeah, this guy was dumb, dude. | ||
This guy didn't know what the hell he's talking about. | ||
There's like four things wrong in this sentence. | ||
There's like ten things wrong in this paragraph, but continuing. | ||
The god emperor has made himself part of Maximus' own flesh. | ||
The only way to destroy the emperor is to destroy himself. | ||
Maximus smiles through the pain because he knows it's worth it. | ||
Yeah, obviously this whole thing drips with narcissism and nihilism. | ||
He's also just flat out wrong about the meaning of gladiator. | ||
The tattoo that Maximus carves off of himself is SPQR, which stands for the Senate and the People of Rome. | ||
It's the Republic. | ||
It's not the Emperor's initials or something. | ||
I don't even know what he's talking about. | ||
And it represents Maximus' lack of faith in the nation of Rome. | ||
And that's the lowest point of his character. | ||
The arc of his character is about re-establishing his faith in the people of Rome and understanding that the emperor is not the people of Rome and that by giving up, he is committing the people of Rome to the whims of a despotic emperor. | ||
And instead, he rises up and kills the emperor and returns the power to the people of Rome. | ||
It's about his reclaiming of his faith in the Roman people. | ||
Idiot. | ||
Moron. | ||
I shot a guy in the back. | ||
I'm super smart. | ||
It's like Ted Kaczynski. | ||
It's the same thing I feel about Ted Kaczynski. | ||
Like he writes this manifesto, but it's like, oh my God, he realized that technology bad. | ||
It's like, okay, first of all, who cares? | ||
And nothing he said was particularly profound. | ||
And then he murdered random people to get the message across. | ||
How do you, you're going to celebrate this guy? | ||
Fine, he was an MKUltra victim. | ||
Even that, you read the story, he sounds like a pussy. | ||
Sorry, excuse my language, but Ted Kaczynski was in Harvard as a young guy. | ||
He got recruited by the CIA. Every day he would go to an office and they would sit there and insult him. | ||
Like, their whole program was about, like, how do we tear people down? | ||
How do we get under people's skin? | ||
And so we'd go, and they would just sit across the table from him, I guess, and just go, look at you. | ||
You're ugly. | ||
You're stupid. | ||
Nobody likes you. | ||
And he would just do this every day over and over, which, you know, he's, like, trying to, like, prove something about himself that, like, he can handle it, which, like, first of all, if I had to go through that, yeah, and this guy wrote a review of Ted Kaczynski's manifesto, First of all, I would think it was funny if I sat across the table from some dude whose whole job was to insult me and I knew his whole job was to insult me. | ||
It would literally just be fun. | ||
I don't know. | ||
That sounds extremely fun to me. | ||
Every day you just get to go banter with somebody. | ||
They insult you. | ||
You insult them back. | ||
Who cares? | ||
You're going to let that destroy you mentally for the rest of your life? | ||
Come on. | ||
Wake up. | ||
Total lack of confidence. | ||
Plus, he could have just stopped at any time. | ||
If you're really, like, suffering and like, oh, it feels terrible to have this person insult me all the time, you could have stopped going at any point, and he chose to keep going because he thought it was, I don't know. | ||
I'm not a fan of Ted Kaczynski. | ||
I'm not a fan of somebody who just sends, you know, bombs in packages to random people they've never met, like college professors who are trying to blow planes out of the sky and murder 100 innocent people because you're mad that electricity exists. | ||
What a scumbag. | ||
That's how I feel about these people, too. | ||
Was this manifesto right? | ||
I guess. | ||
Yeah, the Industrial Revolution has been a disaster. | ||
Wow, great point. | ||
Like, who cares? | ||
What are you talking about? | ||
It happened. | ||
The Industrial Revolution occurred. | ||
Are you going to use the failures of the Industrial Revolution to path a better path forward? | ||
Are you going to get into a position of power where you can make changes based on your belief system? | ||
Are you going to go off into the woods and send bombs to strangers and write letters about how mad you are that the steam engine took off? | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
I get it. | ||
People love the, you know, they feel like, I don't know, ironically embrace him or something. | ||
Again, I think it's people that, like, don't think about what these people actually did. | ||
They just hear a CEO died. | ||
They just picture, like, a cartoon character dying. | ||
Like, no, they, this scumbag, Luigi Mangione, if he's the, if he's the real guy, he destroyed, like, five people's lives who did absolutely nothing to him ever. | ||
The whole family now, broken beyond repair forever. | ||
Because this dude's mom's back hurt. | ||
Literally, that's what's being said. | ||
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He shouldn't have stepped on a crack then. | |
Yeah, it was his fault. | ||
That's right, it was his fault for stepping on a crack. | ||
Let's go to clip number 10 here, because again, this was posted with the video, Holy Crap, The Plot Thickens. | ||
And it's a TikToker. | ||
We won't be able to get to the whole thing. | ||
We'll get to a couple minutes of it. | ||
This woman laying out who this Luigi Mangione is and the severe irony that this guy is being held up as a hero of the proletariat by his socialist comrades. | ||
Rest in power, Luigi. | ||
Let's watch. | ||
What if the assassin's entire family wealth came from healthcare insurers? | ||
The entire world is aware that today Luigi Mangione was arrested as the prime suspect in the unaliving of the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Pennsylvania, where unironically he was eating at a McDonald's. | ||
He had his manifesto with him, he had the weapon possibly 3D printed with him, but no one, and I mean no one, is talking about the fact that the healthcare companies are single-handedly responsible for all of his family's wealth. | ||
I, however, happen to be just outside Baltimore. | ||
And in Maryland, we all know where his family's money comes from. | ||
And I think there's a tie no one is talking about. | ||
Let's get into it. | ||
So Luigi Mangione went to Ivy League schools. | ||
He also did Ivy League seminars at Johns Hopkins and at Stanford University. | ||
He is an intelligent, intelligent man. | ||
But he also graduated as a valedictorian from the Gilman School. | ||
Now, if you're anywhere around Maryland, then you know when someone asks where you went to school out here, they're not talking about your university, they're talking about your high school. | ||
The Gilman School is one of the most elite preparatory schools in our region, racking in at anywhere between $35,000 and $39,000 a year to go to school there. | ||
Introducing the Mangione family. | ||
Now, the Mangione family actually is the head of a group of organizations that are privately held nursing care facilities, and it's called the Laurien Group. | ||
And if you look at the Lorien Health Services About Us page as of today, it says a family owned and operated organization founded by and conducts itself based on strong family values. | ||
But if you look just a couple days ago, it looked like this. | ||
That's right, folks. | ||
Just a few days ago, it said when Nicholas and Mary Mangione founded Lorien Health Services, they set out to provide Maryland seniors with pride and dignity Yada, yada, yada. | ||
It's very interesting how that just changed, isn't it? | ||
But how do we know who really owns all of these facilities and how do we know he's related to them? | ||
Now, doing a fair amount of research on these nursing facilities, I've learned that since 1977, they've grown to have at least nine long-term care and rehab facilities all across the state of Maryland. | ||
They also have expanded to add a healthcare services company, and they invested a ton of money in buying Turf Valley Golf Resort, where they have tons of weddings and conferences, and they also host hundreds and hundreds of dinners for healthcare and pharmaceutical representatives. | ||
No correlation, I'm sure. | ||
This is an article from the Washington Post discussing Nick and Mary Mangione's acquisition of the Turf Valley Resort. | ||
And it was in these responses to interrogatories from one of their lawsuits that I identified the ownership structure of Laurien Healthcare and their affiliates. | ||
In this document, they're answering who owns all of the facilities and who owns all of the stock in Laurien Healthcare and Laurien Health Services. | ||
And they identify and say that the 10 adult offspring of Nicholas and Mary Mangione, Listed as Louis, John, Rosemary, Jura, Linda, Lesita, Nicholas, Joanne, Peter Mangione, and Francis, and Samuel, and Michelle, each own a 10% stake. | ||
Now, in this same set of interrogatories, they identify the specific breakdown of the shell corporations and which corporations do what with which facilities. | ||
They also address ownership of the Turf Valley Resort. | ||
I also found an attached letter... | ||
It goes on and on like this, but I think the point is made. | ||
This guy was from one of the richest families in Maryland. | ||
I believe his uncle is a congressman or something like that. | ||
I mean, he's connected to politicians. | ||
His family's super wealthy and made their money off of insurance. | ||
Pretty incredible. | ||
And then, of course, all the people saying, well, the healthcare system is just so evil and bad. | ||
And it's like... | ||
Okay, but Medicare is really the big issue. | ||
It's actually the government intervention in the medical system that causes the most amount of frustration and problems. | ||
So there's still a lot more to break down about this, including suspicions about this guy's mental health. | ||
Or some claims about his mental health being negatively affected after a back surgery. | ||
I'm going to keep talking about this in the next segment, but I'm going to open up the phone lines for your calls in that segment, and we'll move on to other topics in the last hour, as well as your calls. | ||
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Again, it's not just about this story in particular. | ||
It's about the overall trend of American culture and how it's headed towards a very dangerous and socialistic direction. | ||
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I was going to cover some more of the reported manifesto of this CEO shooter, Luigi Mangione. | ||
But I'm worried it hasn't been confirmed yet that this is even his. | ||
Dr. Ben Braddock at Graduated Ben posted several selections where there's a long diatribe about the author's mother, you know, going through health issues. | ||
He says, if this is his actual manifesto, his motive was vengeance for the way they treated his mother. | ||
If I was prosecuted, I wouldn't even try to bring this to trial. | ||
But then he says, it doesn't have any of the quotes reported to be in the manifesto he was carrying, though, so take it with a shaker of salt. | ||
So I don't even know if I want to cover this since I don't even know if it's his. | ||
We'd be making inaccurate speculations if it's not real. | ||
So maybe we won't talk about that. | ||
I was planning on talking about that, though. | ||
Maybe I'll talk about it anyway because... | ||
It is an interesting take on the American healthcare system. | ||
And could very well be real. | ||
Maybe I will cover it. | ||
Either way, I'm going to open up the phone lines for your calls for the rest of the show. | ||
And we'll move on to other stuff. | ||
And again, I don't like spending half a show or an entire show on one story. | ||
There's so much going on in the world. | ||
I don't want to do a disservice. | ||
But there's some stories that you see the way the media is latching onto it. | ||
It's the only story that anybody's talking about. | ||
But not just that. | ||
It's indicative of major overarching issues that expand way beyond the story itself to the mindset and the extremism that's being manifest on the left. | ||
And Matt was talking during the break, we were talking about the fact that Reddit Now they kicked out the Donald. | ||
They basically banned all the legitimate conservatives. | ||
And so now it's just this cesspool of these just like nihilistic, narcissistic lefties who are in this echo chamber of socialism and impotent rage at the way the world is. | ||
And the same thing that happened on Twitter. | ||
Twitter gets opened up. | ||
Free speech with Elon Musk. | ||
Right-wingers dominate constantly because left-wingism can only exist with censorship and top-down repression. | ||
So, of course, all the lefties go to Blue Sky where they have the censorship program built in from the beginning. | ||
And what it creates are these little echo chamber feedback loops where leftists are celebrated and encourage each other to be the most ridiculous and Thoughtless and petulant virgins of themselves. | ||
But I'm going to give out the phone number for your calls. | ||
I imagine callers will have different takes on this. | ||
The number to dial is 1-877-789-2539. | ||
1-877-789-2539. | ||
That's 1-877-789-2539. | ||
You can call about anything, but we have been talking about this for a while and I want to get your input on it. | ||
We'll just finish up with it here in this segment. | ||
I won't worry about the supposed manifesto thing because I just can't confirm that it's real. | ||
I can't confirm this is real either, but it comes from Jack Mack, CFB at Barstool Sports. | ||
He says, I spoke with a source that had a lot of friends and went to high school with Luigi Mangione. | ||
What keeps coming up is a back surgery that, quote, changed everything for him and he went, quote, absolutely crazy. | ||
It checks out with his Goodreads history and the x-ray in his header. | ||
So the header of his social media account had an x-ray image of pins in his spine, whether that's him or somebody else. | ||
More info on this. | ||
Back injury happened when he was surfing in Hawaii. | ||
The surgery didn't go great. | ||
He moved to Japan. | ||
His contact with family stopped about a year ago. | ||
Recently, the family reached out to friends from high school asking if they had info on him. | ||
So he's been pretty aloof for a while. | ||
This checks out with his Instagram tagged photos as there were lots of posts from family through 2023, but none recently. | ||
and Other people pointing out he appeared to have some sort of mental breakdown about six months ago and vanished with people commenting or tagging him on his Twitter, asking things like, hey, are you okay? | ||
Nobody's heard from you in months. | ||
Apparently your family's looking for you, thinking of you, prayers every day in your name. | ||
You know you are missed and loved. | ||
Hey man, I need you to call me. | ||
I don't know if you're okay or just in a super isolated place and have no service, but I haven't heard from you in months. | ||
You made commitments to me for my wedding. | ||
If you can't honor them, I need to know so I can plan accordingly. | ||
It seemed like something happened where this dude dropped out of society. | ||
Which again adds to my suspicions, maybe not as all as it seems. | ||
As laid out by Peruvian Bull on X. Let me get this straight. | ||
Killer is Luigi Mangione, Ivy League grad with degrees in comp sci, avid reader and active contributor on GitHub. | ||
He has a 130 plus IQ but he takes off his mask at a Starbucks to flirt with an employee. | ||
I think it was actually at a hospital. | ||
I mean the hostel then an hour later goes on to calmly kill the CEO of a major health care company rides away on a bike a week later goes to a local McDonald's where he brings the murder weapon a fake ID used to check into the hotel and a written manifesto on how horrible the American health care system is he somehow gets identified by the cashier after he sits down he works on his laptop till people come inside the McDonald's and he's sitting there with a ghost gun and suppressor he made himself gotcha. | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
It's kind of suspicious. | ||
It's all a little bit suspicious. | ||
Where has he been for the last six months? | ||
Was this the culmination of a six-month mission? | ||
Did it take him six months of planning to figure out you could just shoot a guy in the back of the head and escape for four days? | ||
Wow, what a criminal genius. | ||
Former classmate of UnitedHealthcare CEO's suspected shooter spoke to the Gateway Pundit, a former high school classmate of the person of interest identified, expressed incredulity over the incident. | ||
The Mangione family owns multiple businesses in Baltimore City or Baltimore County, including Hayfield's Country Club in Cockeysville and a radio station. | ||
He's the cousin of Republican State Delegate Nino Mangione, who's been in office since 2019. | ||
One source in Baltimore County who's indirectly familiar with the possible shooter described him as super smart, said the family is very well off. | ||
Some locals have rumored that Luigi Mangione had a bad injury and was a disgruntled client of UnitedHealthcare or that he had a close family member who was wronged by the health care system. | ||
But who knows, said the local. | ||
He was valedictorian of his high school class at Gilman School in 2016. | ||
It's an all-boys private country day school on the outskirts of Baltimore. | ||
Incredible. | ||
So the person who they talked to said they hadn't talked to him in about eight years was We were friendly, but we just weren't in the same circle of friends. | ||
So after high school graduation, I never saw him. | ||
He follows Mangione's Instagram page and looked at it early on Monday out of curiosity and found he hadn't posted anything since 2021. I'm wondering, was that when the name was released? | ||
It's interesting that this guy would be like, I'm going to look at Luigi's account. | ||
If it was before Luigi's name was released, did he have some suspicion? | ||
And if so, what? | ||
The Gateway Pundit reported that the police found a manifesto where he ranted against the healthcare industry. | ||
Law enforcement found at least four fake IDs on Mangione, a gun with a silencer, and two-and-a-half-page handwritten manifesto with quotes like, quote, these parasites had it coming, and I do apologize for any strife and drama and trauma, but it had to be done, the manifesto reads. | ||
Perhaps he was indoctrinated and radicalized by college professors at the University of Pennsylvania. | ||
Yeah, maybe. | ||
Probably pharmaceutical drugs had a little something to do with it, if I had to guess. | ||
So, again, the suspicious things about this. | ||
He doesn't seem to match the photos originally released or the video released, including the fact that one of the only parts of the person you can see, since he's wearing a mask, are his eyes and his eyebrows. | ||
And his eyebrows... | ||
Have a distinct gap in the middle, whereas Luigi Mangione himself has a bit of a unibrow. | ||
So it doesn't even look like him. | ||
It's kind of weird. | ||
Apparently disappeared for six months only to turn up with a 3D printed handmade gun with a silencer to kill a CEO with a handwritten manifesto. | ||
But then he claims that the currency he had on him was planted on him. | ||
A new report from CNN has revealed the suspected shooter of Brian Thompson, Luigi Mangione, told a Pennsylvania judge during his arraignment that the weapons charge on weapons charges and that $8,000 in USD and $2,000 in foreign currency was planted on him. | ||
He had $10,000 with him. | ||
Prosecutors also claimed that Mangione had his passport in a Faraday bag, which is used to stop cell service transmission in his possession. | ||
In response to the prosecutor's claims, Mangione stated, I actually want to address two of the things you said. | ||
I don't know where that money came from. | ||
I'm not sure if it was planted. | ||
I'm sure the Pennsylvania police are carrying around $10,000 in foreign cash to plant on people, just in case. | ||
Just in case they crop up in a McDonald's. | ||
Uh... | ||
This is somewhat ironic. | ||
Somebody actually went to the McDonald's where he was found and held a sign saying corrupt insurance CEOs have got to go. | ||
A little ironic, isn't it? | ||
That the guy who apparently from his manifesto and the writings online thought that protesting was totally pointless and would never work. | ||
But here you are protesting on his behalf. | ||
Don't you love... | ||
Signs that say things like, CEOs have got to go. | ||
What do they think that means? | ||
Like, what do they think corporate structure is? | ||
What do they think happens to UnitedHealthcare now? | ||
Do they stop? | ||
Do they just close up shop? | ||
We were a $5 billion a year business, but then our CEO got shut, so you're all fired. | ||
What? | ||
No, they're just going to put somebody else in. | ||
Like, what do you think is going to happen? | ||
You killed the CEO, and so now there will be a new CEO. That's how this works. | ||
So, great job. | ||
Complete idiots. | ||
By the way, the person that is going to be the new CEO, probably not as nice or good as... | ||
This Brian Thompson character seemed to be. | ||
Again, I just, you know, people are just happy somebody died, I guess. | ||
I don't get all the support for this guy. | ||
It's very weird. | ||
Now, where's this headline from, guys? | ||
That manhunt photo looks like a loved one. | ||
Do you have to tell? | ||
Now, I'm not a fan of snitching. | ||
To be honest with you. | ||
I'm actually on Burger King's side on this case. | ||
That being said, there's a reason, you know, the black community is in such dire straits right now because the criminals that constantly exploit and destroy it are protected by their own people refusing to participate in the legal system. | ||
There's no legal duty to report, says Rachel Barkow, a professor at New York University Law School. | ||
That's why they offer rewards, to entice people to do it. | ||
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I don't know if that's totally true. | |
I don't know if that's totally true. | ||
I'd take that with a grain of salt, people. | ||
I'm pretty sure if you willfully conceal the identity of somebody suspected of a crime, that can make you complicit. | ||
I'm just saying. | ||
It can be illegal to harbor a wanted felon, and some people are mandated to report if they learn of certain crimes, like teachers who are required to report child abuse. | ||
There's also a federal offense called misprison of felony, which requires somebody who has knowledge of the actual commission of a federal felony to report that felony to the authorities. | ||
But the killing of Mr. Thompson is likely prosecuted under New York state law, not federally, and New York has no such reporting requirement. | ||
Again, it's the type of thing where it's like, if it's family... | ||
If it's your friend, I'm not going to snitch on anybody. | ||
It's just not my business. | ||
That being said, I think we're in a very strange situation when the authorities of our country, who many of the authorities are, whether they're in academia or the law world or politicians, there's more and more people that are just these sort of anti-civilizational revolutionary type people. | ||
They're going to be out there telling everybody like, yeah, you know, hide criminals if you know them. | ||
Because the law is evil. | ||
And we're seeing it with the way mayors are, you know, threatening to hold big rallies and protests against the expulsion of criminal aliens. | ||
You can't run a country with people like that. | ||
Everything in moderation, right? | ||
It's like there are certain things, and it's not... | ||
You know, I always think of the Hillary Clinton quote where she's like, you have to have two positions. | ||
You have your public one and your private one. | ||
And that's a very, like, not to be sexist, it's kind of like a female interpretation of, man, that's unfair. | ||
That's unfair. | ||
I won't say it's a female interpretation, but there's something just, like, I don't know, socialistic about that idea because it is true to a certain extent. | ||
I can get what she's saying, but But it's like a dishonest way of applying it. | ||
I think you have to have two – like I have two positions on a lot of stuff, but I'll tell you both of them, and I'll say, here's what I want, and here's what I think is feasible. | ||
And I think that's what she was trying to say, but she has to have – you have to imbue it with this dishonesty where it's like the public thing you say you want and then the private thing you really want. | ||
And it's like – that's just a dishonest form of – Sort of a normal thought process, which is like, I want there to be no abortions ever at all. | ||
But that's a pipe dream and I get that. | ||
So I'm willing to make, you know, but so my goal and what I'd support publicly would be like a moderation of the current law and a moving towards less abortion. | ||
Abortions and celebrating abortions left. | ||
So, like, my ultimate goal is infeasible. | ||
I get that. | ||
It's politically impossible right now. | ||
It's just a fact. | ||
That is my goal, and I'll tell you that's my goal. | ||
But then we can work within the system and say, what's possible? | ||
What can we do? | ||
Where can we, you know, make advancements? | ||
Why was I even bringing that up? | ||
I don't remember. | ||
So, anyway, it's just a mindset these days. | ||
Oh, right. | ||
Well, because of moderation, where it's like, yeah, you don't... | ||
I'm not going to snitch. | ||
I'm not going to encourage people to snitch. | ||
At the same time, you want your state to have authority and to go after the bad guys, and you want to be able to trust that process. | ||
It's almost like... | ||
I don't know. | ||
Maybe this is too esoteric or whatever. | ||
I didn't see that note, guys. | ||
If you want to pull that note back up, I didn't notice. | ||
Okay, we're going to talk about the 3D printed weapon with Cody Wilson. | ||
Excellent. | ||
We haven't talked to him in years. | ||
Cody Wilson of Ghost Gun fame will be calling in to or joining us at 1030 to talk about this supposedly 3D printed weapon carried by Luigi Mangione. | ||
Anyway, I don't want to get off on a tangent, but... | ||
But there's something weird about living in a country where the authorities are like, yeah, you should hide people from the police and kill CEOs. | ||
It's like, what are you doing? | ||
What is this? | ||
Let's go out to your calls. | ||
Jordan in New Jersey. | ||
You say you're an attorney who has sued UnitedHealthcare before. | ||
Go ahead, Jordan. | ||
You're on the air. | ||
Hi, Harrison. | ||
Thanks for taking my call. | ||
I hope all's well. | ||
Thank you. | ||
So, yeah, I just want to... | ||
This is the scum of the earth to healthcare people. | ||
I just want to state that. | ||
There are some, and I want to report that they do generally deny stuff and that the system helps these folks along, meaning the judges, other law firms, and so forth. | ||
So the people coming to my office are angry and irate now and don't trust the system. | ||
And this is one of the biggest dangers from this that people have to understand. | ||
They have to understand, for me as a practitioner, it's very alarming, having grown up in the 1980s, to see a very organized world where there was some sense or semblance of law and order and some sort of equality or, you know, not a two-tier justice system and what have you. | ||
We're reaching a level now where, in my prediction, you're going to see vigilante justice like this pour out all over the place. | ||
And so these people denied coverage from my client who was in the middle of the night. | ||
She was receiving emergent care for a very serious condition, but almost died. | ||
She was unconscious. | ||
Her plan decided to take UnitedHealthcare because they all started pushing this during COVID to the Cadillac plans, reunions and everything like that. | ||
Oh, take us. | ||
We don't give a crap. | ||
They try to corner the market, and part of what this guy did, the CEO, was offer these ridiculous terms and then just deny everybody. | ||
And that's what they did. | ||
Now, when you go in there as an attorney and you try to file something and say, this is ridiculous, this is emergent care, and furthermore, guess what? | ||
There's surprise billing laws. | ||
The doctors don't care, so they sued the client. | ||
My client was sued for half a million dollars, some poor African-American lady who had nothing, who's a nurse. | ||
And say, oh, sue UnitedHealthcare for us. | ||
The law firms all, you know, time in and join this cottage industry thing of collection, you know, lawsuits and what have you. | ||
And you have this, you know, going after some poor lady who almost died, and they don't care either. | ||
So the whole system is so corrupt now, in my opinion, that people are coming into my office more frequently now as things really start to get worse. | ||
And say things to me where every once in a while I have to think about, do I report these people? | ||
Right. | ||
I'll be frank. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
So this has reached a fever pitch, and we're going to see – my prediction is more of this, especially what you were just talking about with some of these people's comments, some of whom are from law schools and stuff who are so left-wing now and crazy that they love this. | ||
And it's part of the chaos that they want to see ensue in the country. | ||
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Yeah, and look, I totally agree with you. | ||
Like, obviously, the healthcare, I mean, we talk about it every day on here, but there's a weird, like, disconnect where you go, hey, this guy wasn't a hero for killing a random person. | ||
Like, he wasn't a hero for killing this father, too. | ||
You know, you don't really know who this guy was, and was it really so bad? | ||
And then I get people commenting going, no, but healthcare is corrupt. | ||
And it's like, that's true, but that doesn't justify it. | ||
It's not an either-or thing. | ||
It's not like you either love the healthcare system and think it's totally legit and good, or you want to see CEOs gunned down in the street. | ||
Like, what's the solution, Jordan? | ||
Because I totally agree with you. | ||
I have some idea of how corrupt and nonsensical it is, the healthcare system. | ||
What can we do to claim it, to claw it back? | ||
Because... | ||
Shooting CEOs in the street is not strategically viable, right? | ||
So what do we do? | ||
We have to really circle around this whole Trump thing and clean up our legal system. | ||
I started a nonprofit, slow to get off the ground, because I've done a million other things. | ||
I've called into the show numerous times on other issues, but I'm an attorney as well. | ||
But the thing is, is that we have to clean up the legal system and the system that's supposed to be watchdogs over these people. | ||
It's so corrupt, as we saw with the judges. | ||
The federal court system needs to be cleaned up immensely, all right? | ||
Because you have not only groups like UnitedHealthcare going nuts because they own all the federal courts and the state courts in some instances, but you have law enforcement agencies that are completely off the rails, as we've seen, you know? | ||
Like Alvin Bragg and all these other people. | ||
And what you used to be able to do is go file something in federal court and hold them accountable. | ||
But guess what? | ||
That ain't happening right now. | ||
So let me tell you this story. | ||
When I was up to federal court in 2018, when Trump first got in, they weren't appointing any judges. | ||
They wouldn't convene a jury for you, and they said, oh, you're going to sit here for months because we can't get judges. | ||
The reason being, they didn't want Trump to appoint any judges because they would actually do their job. | ||
And we need to have him come in, fire all the federal attorneys because they don't do crap either. | ||
And so they need to be handled, and we need to clean up this system for the sake of our civilization. | ||
Now, I just want to make one extra point here that I think is very alarming that isn't really being covered here. | ||
I know what you're talking about with the CEOs now saying, oh, I need security, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
I think that this environment is going to lead to, guess what? | ||
These big decisions aren't going to be made by CEOs anymore, and there's going to be a push to have an AI system pump out these decisions. | ||
You know, I didn't even think about that. | ||
That's such a brilliant point. | ||
And that's what I fear the most out of this, is you're taking humans out of it. | ||
And that's what's going on, too, with the Army, the military, and everything like that. | ||
And then you lose this whole thing of what's a moral code, right? | ||
Because we have the value of life. | ||
Right? | ||
And that's the thing that people have to maybe take a look at, too. | ||
So I want to thank you for your time, and I have other callers. | ||
And you're doing a great job, and I really hope you guys stay on the air. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Now, that was an excellent call. | ||
Brought up a bunch of good points. | ||
I didn't even think about the AI thing, but that's brilliant. | ||
I think it was IBM used to have a thing that said, you know, computers are not allowed to make management decisions because you can't hold a computer accountable. | ||
And I didn't think about that. | ||
That is going to contribute to CEOs going, hey, don't blame me. | ||
Don't shoot me in the back. | ||
I'm just doing what the computer tells me. | ||
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Hmm. | |
Interesting stuff. | ||
We'll be back on the other side to take your phone calls. | ||
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We're going to go back out to your calls this hour from Patriot Beekeeper on X. According to real Candace, according to Candace Owens, Mr. Thompson, the CEO, had security detail who was traveling with him from Minnesota and I guess wasn't there with him that day. | ||
Another wrinkle of suspicion in this whole official story. | ||
Thanks for that, Patriot Beekeeper. | ||
Let's go back out to your phone calls. | ||
Jacob in Wisconsin wants to talk about the shooter related to COVID. Go ahead, Jacob, you're on the air. | ||
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Hey, thanks for taking my call. | |
Yeah, I think the whole thing stinks, right? | ||
The official story just doesn't really make sense. | ||
He still has his mask on when they find him. | ||
It's like he's trying to get caught. | ||
He's got this manifesto on him. | ||
I mean, I think the fact that it stinks is obvious. | ||
I think the... | ||
The thing you have to think about is why or what the plan is. | ||
And I think it's either a message to the other CEOs, you know, to talk about the COVID stuff. | ||
I mean, we all know this is going to be coming out, you know, in a big way with the vaccines and, you know, the number of, like, injured people. | ||
And, you know, I think it's also kind of a... | ||
Part of the bigger plan is just showing chaos. | ||
You see that with the recent ruling. | ||
BLM has now been activated. | ||
It's just going to be a lead-up of more and more violence until the 20th. | ||
It's serving, I think, maybe multiple purposes, but it's just to cause chaos. | ||
The deep state's threatened, and they're just, for sure, sending a message to the other CEOs saying, hey, we can get you whenever we want, and we're doing it not in a subtle way. | ||
He's on camera. | ||
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They had him on camera the whole time, and then he shows up five days later, still has the gun, still has his mask on, and he's like, okay, really? | |
Yeah, they're not even trying to be sneaky. | ||
Yeah, it's, and you know, my first interpretation of it was like, I thought it was a professional hit because of how sort of calm the guy was. | ||
And I thought it was a, you know, just send a message to other CEOs. | ||
Then when you learn sort of about The way he went about it, my eventual interpretation was like, alright, this is probably a disgruntled person whose family member had died or something because the insurance company withheld whatever. | ||
Had some personal vengeance. | ||
But originally, yeah, it was so out in the open, right in front of it, almost perfectly framed by this camera. | ||
It was almost like, alright, was this a signal? | ||
And again, if you look at You know, mysterious murders surrounding the pharmaceutical industry or the healthcare industry in general. | ||
There's a lot. | ||
And you're talking about billions of dollars at play here. | ||
And, you know, who knows? | ||
Maybe this Brian Thompson guy was a whistleblower and was about to testify to Congress or something. | ||
And we don't know. | ||
We don't know. | ||
There's still not a lot of information out about this. | ||
So far, everything being put forward is Makes general sense, right? | ||
The narrative sort of tracks in general, but you've got these big gaps of information that are very suspicious. | ||
Thanks for that call, Jacob. | ||
Let's go to, I know somebody else wanted to talk about his, the bullets. | ||
Yeah, Infowarrior on line three. | ||
Go ahead, you're on the air. | ||
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All right, Harrison. | |
Hey, yeah, where are the bullets? | ||
I mean, he engraved three of them. | ||
Where are the rest of them? | ||
That's a good question. | ||
You know, we haven't heard much about that. | ||
And, of course, the bullets were, you know, carved with deny, delay, depose, or whatever it was. | ||
Again, pointing to, again, I mean, you know, maybe this is just my conspiracy theorist suspicion creeping in, but it's like, hmm, that's obvious. | ||
Almost too obvious. | ||
It's almost like a red herring. | ||
It's almost like he wanted us to think that. | ||
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Welcome back, folks. | |
We're going to finish up with phone calls here and we'll be joined by Cody Wilson in the next segment. | ||
We also want to get into some other stories and we have a caller and callers called in about the same topic people on X are asking me about. | ||
Just the drones in New Jersey, so we'll cover that here a little bit as well. | ||
But let's just quickly get through. | ||
I want to go first to the callers who called in about the CEO shooting. | ||
Guys, we can just keep our comments to about a minute, and we'll get through as many as possible. | ||
Let's go to who's been on the longest. | ||
Looks like Jay in Vancouver. | ||
Go ahead, Jay, you're on the air. | ||
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Hey, yeah. | |
So let's make it as quick as possible. | ||
I think that the comments on X and everywhere else are indicative of the society that we have overall. | ||
I think it's terrible. | ||
Obviously, we don't really value life at all. | ||
But the more important thing, aside from the weird conspiracy stuff surrounding all this that's now popping out, is at the end of the day, the biggest issue is the health crisis. | ||
When you commoditize or when you insure a commodity, rather, it leads to higher prices on the commodity and it lowers the quality of the services. | ||
Anybody that's curious, they can look up President Nixon talks with John Ehrlichman of Kaiser Permanente prior to the HMO Act. | ||
And that right there, when you do that, you make everything way, way, way more expensive. | ||
For instance, if you have state, for instance, and insurance that pays for fuel in your car, when you go to the pump to get fuel, are you going to choose to get five gallons, which is just what you need, or are you going to go ahead and fill up? | ||
Most people will fill up. | ||
Are you going to get the 87, or are you going to get the 91? | ||
Most people are going to choose 91. So you're Paying a premium for stuff that you're going to be receiving more benefit than you would be paying out. | ||
And the system itself overall really... | ||
It's the biggest issue and problem. | ||
It needs revamping. | ||
I completely agree with you. | ||
You know, the problem is, and I, you know, clearly socialized medicine is not the right way to go. | ||
Just look at Canada or the UK right now. | ||
the NHS like totally collapsing and their solution is to bring in suicide pods and to pass the you know assisted death made program like they have in Canada which became the number one cause of death in certain provinces that because they're just offing so many people to save money for the health care system so obviously socialized medicine is not the answer but clearly something has gone wrong | ||
and you know ensure your company offering insurance used to be like when it first started it was like a an extra benefit because there were you know so many jobs trying to get workers that some companies started going oh if you come with us we'll provide you insurance so So it was just like a bonus after World War II. Companies started offering this. | ||
It became standard. | ||
So now everybody gets their insurance through their company. | ||
So it's sort of like just this legacy system that we're operating under that was never intended to operate like this, but it just sort of got established piecemeal. | ||
It needs to be rehauled. | ||
I totally agree with it. | ||
The way you rehaul it is you have smart, intelligent people that go to Ivy League schools, get jobs in the insurance company and work to fix it, not shoot the CEO and then go on the run until you're caught in the McDonald's. | ||
That's just me, though. | ||
Thank you for that call, Jay. | ||
Let's go to QC in Virginia. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
You want to talk about this shooter? | ||
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Oh, yes, sir. | |
Thank you very much for taking this call. | ||
I really love you guys and appreciate the work that you're doing. | ||
Thank you. | ||
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Mangione. | |
Well, I want to question the event. | ||
You know, these events have happened in the past, many times before. | ||
And what's different is our awareness of these events and the ability to share it. | ||
You see, Infowars poses a threat to them because we offer both sides. | ||
Of the event. | ||
So in other words, they know that the more the information... | ||
If you start something, you want to finish it like a boomerang. | ||
So they start the narrative. | ||
They know that there are going to be people out there who are going to shoot. | ||
This guy was an amateur. | ||
Period. | ||
He was an amateur. | ||
They know there are people out there who are going to do these things for them. | ||
And they manipulate the events. | ||
I mean, this isn't a new technology. | ||
This is a science of the mind. | ||
They manipulate. | ||
They started the event. | ||
They know it's going to come back to them. | ||
What's going to happen? | ||
So Infowars lets people know about their scheme. | ||
You're letting people know, yes, the scheme exists, but you're also letting them know it. | ||
I completely agree, and yeah, I'm sure if you turn on mainstream media, there maybe is some discussion about the way that people are responding positively to this, but no one's going to give you the full-spectrum strategic breakdown of what's going on. | ||
Thank you for that call, QC. Let's go to Max in Milwaukee, our final CEO shooter. | ||
Go ahead, Max. | ||
The crew wrote what you said. | ||
I can't believe this. | ||
Go ahead, Max. | ||
You're on the air. | ||
Yo, yo, Harrison. | ||
Yeah, I always look for things like this that are spoon-fed to us and pushed at us, like the booster, the vaccine, like Peter, all over the news, all over the internet. | ||
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Everybody sees it. | |
As, like, naturally suspicious. | ||
Everyone's gut feeling is suspicious. | ||
So, you know, I was looking into the details, you know, the devil's in the details. | ||
And this guy, Luigi's fake ID from New Jersey that was posted, he has Mario in his name. | ||
So it's like Mario and Luigi. | ||
His name on his fake ID is Rosario Mark, as in Mark, as in a Mark person. | ||
And then if you take the last of the first name, Mario, and the first of the last name, Mario, so just more word games, and I thought it was just another suspicious coincidence. | ||
Mario and Luigi. | ||
energy. | ||
Yeah, I'm telling you, there's something not quite right about this. | ||
I don't know what it is. | ||
But it's very, very odd. | ||
And I'm glad I'm not the only one recognizing this. | ||
Thank you for that call, Max. | ||
Now I want to go to Tim in California. | ||
You're talking about the drones in New Jersey. | ||
Somebody on X was just asking me why we're not talking about that as well. | ||
Go ahead, Tim. | ||
I got a video about this that it's very strange out of New Jersey. | ||
Go ahead and give me your thoughts first. | ||
This has been going on for like a week at this point. | ||
And it's gone on for so long that... | ||
People are able to set up tripods with high-zoom cameras to get images. | ||
Usually if you have a UFO sighting, by the time it's over, nobody was able to capture it really. | ||
But this has been going on daily for like a week, so now you've got people in New Jersey able to set up telescopes with cameras on them capturing really high-def images of these so-called drones in New Jersey. | ||
Tim, what's your take on this? | ||
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Well, and don't forget that prior to all these sightings in New Jersey, we had a bunch of them over Langley in Virginia, right? | |
Right. | ||
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So this has been going on for a little while now, but the reason I called in yesterday, but I'm glad I didn't get on. | |
As it turns out, 21 New Jersey mayors Turned in a letter to the governor of New Jersey yesterday saying, hey man, we just can't keep ignoring this. | ||
You got to do something, okay? | ||
You got to figure out what it is. | ||
But as you probably suspect, and as I suspect, I think they already know what it is. | ||
Just like when Joe Biden would not shoot down the balloon that kept going over our country, it's like, well, wait a minute, what's going on with that? | ||
Why won't you do it or whatever? | ||
That's a little weird, but here's what I'm thinking. | ||
The government's willing to admit that we had more than 152,000, 152,000 individuals that came across our border from China. | ||
And they all kind of look like NASA scientists. | ||
The only thing that was lacking from the picture was pocket protectors. | ||
If they'd had that, they would have fit the mold perfectly. | ||
But Out of those 152,000 or more, surely some of those know how to fly drones. | ||
And you're going to need some drones, but who controls our ports? | ||
Well, it's China. | ||
And who brings more container ships into our country other than anybody else on Earth? | ||
And it's China. | ||
So I don't have any proof that this is China. | ||
But as a guy, if I'm going to be gambling, I'm going to bet you, hey, man, I almost guarantee it. | ||
But there's 78,000 that also crossed in the same period of time from Russia, so I suppose I shouldn't be discriminatory. | ||
But yeah, I got a funny feeling this is China. | ||
They got plenty of bucks to spend, they got plenty of reason to be motivated, and they got no fear on account of they sent a balloon all the way across the country and nobody did nothing. | ||
Yeah, yeah, no, that's interesting. | ||
And I think that's a... | ||
Perfectly valid, you know, supposition. | ||
I think the way I'm seeing the government react to it, I think it has to be a government program. | ||
I think this is the government testing out, maybe testing out the psychological reaction, testing out how quickly, you know, how fast it is that you put one of these drones up in the sky, how fast does he get on social media, testing response times in that way. | ||
I'm not sure exactly why, but... | ||
It seems to me like either the government would come up with a fake story to try to cover it up or they would not let this happen and would be out there taking down these drones if they were really Russian or Chinese. | ||
It just doesn't seem to me like the government is responding to this in any natural or normal way. | ||
It seems like they're kind of trying to ignore it while kind of admitting that it's happening. | ||
And it just seems to me like It's just not normal. | ||
Nothing about this is... | ||
I don't think they're UAPs. | ||
I don't think they're UFOs. | ||
I think they're military technology. | ||
I think the military knows exactly what they are. | ||
What they're doing with them, I don't know. | ||
But it could be a psychological operation of some sort. | ||
Now, speaking of the mayors reaching out to the New Jersey governor, the governor, Phil Murphy... | ||
Made a statement about this and said some very strange things. | ||
Let's go now to the statement of New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy on the drones above his state. | ||
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The drones in New Jersey and Morris County. | |
Twenty — I don't know how many mayors sent a letter to you this morning. | ||
Ask for a clarification. | ||
What can you tell us? | ||
What is going on, and why has it taken so long to come up with an explanation? | ||
Yeah, it's a good — I don't blame people for being frustrated. | ||
Let me say, most importantly, right up front, we see no evidence. | ||
And I say we — this includes Homeland Security, FBI, Secret Service, our state police. | ||
Authorities at all levels of government. | ||
The most important point to say is we don't see any concern for public safety. | ||
That's number one. | ||
Number two, having said that, it's really frustrating that we don't have more answers as to where they're coming from and why they're doing what they're doing. | ||
We had last night 49 sightings. | ||
I think 20 of them were over 100. Now, those include, I think I saw one, mistaken, a fixed-wing aircraft, a plane, a small Piper Cub, for instance, for a drone, or you saw one and that counts, and then I saw the same one and that counts. | ||
So we think these are overstated, but it's a non-zero number. | ||
I was on with the White House and Homeland Security leadership literally at the very top yesterday, I'm hoping we'll get answers sooner than later. | ||
I would just ask folks to continue to let the FBI or their local law enforcement know when they see something, and we'll continue to do everything we can with our federal partners to get clearer answers. | ||
Why is it so hard to get answers? | ||
These are apparently very, as I understand it, very sophisticated. | ||
The minute you get eyes on them, they go dark. | ||
And, you know, we're obviously most concerned about sensitive targets and sensitive critical infrastructure. | ||
So we've got military assets, we've got utility assets, we've got the president-elects one of his homes here. | ||
This is something we're taking deadly seriously. | ||
We've gotten good cooperation out of the feds, but we need more. | ||
And that was my plea. | ||
I don't know, but if we have news, I'll let you know. | ||
The minute we know something, I'm not going to hide it under a bushel. | ||
Governor, you're going to have people saying, you know, I saw a drone and it was spraying something, or I saw a drone crash in my yard and it set off an alarm when I tried to go near it. | ||
There's a lot of fear. | ||
Yeah. | ||
What is your message? | ||
Well, the message I just gave. | ||
But by the way, we're not aware of any nefarious drone that has crashed. | ||
Or if there is one that's crashed, could someone please call me and let me know where that is? | ||
There are a couple of rumored downings for one reason or another. | ||
One of them was a toy. | ||
The other one was never found. | ||
But having something, having our hands on equipment that's on the ground would be helpful. | ||
No question about it. | ||
That's weird. | ||
I was the governor of New Jersey. | ||
Two things stand out to me. | ||
One, he is apparently in communication with the president about this. | ||
He said, you know, we've had a meeting with the White House and this goes all the way to the top. | ||
Something along those lines. | ||
So apparently you've got... | ||
Someone in the federal government at a very high level in the White House, maybe the Pentagon, he's a little vague on terms, but they're in contact with the governor managing this, whatever this is. | ||
He says, as soon as we get eyes on them, they go black. | ||
Well, that's very strange. | ||
Very, very strange. | ||
The behavior of some of these things is very strange. | ||
In fact, if the crew just wants to pull up my screen here, I can just sort of scroll through some of these. | ||
These are all from mostly from the last 24 hours, but I just searched NJ drones. | ||
Some of them just straight up look like planes. | ||
Like to me, this one looks an awful lot like a plane, but apparently isn't. | ||
These are some of the 300 millimeter lens photos taken. | ||
Like I was saying, people have had time to set up Telescopes. | ||
Try to get these shots. | ||
Some very clear shots. | ||
I believe we put this one in the show folder so you can blow that one up large if you want. | ||
I mean, they look like just drones to me. | ||
This is an interesting one from TruthPoll. | ||
Truth Pull X. This is something I would say is close to the biblical Ezekiel's wheel, wheel within wheel, rotating on its own axis, full of eyes, optic-like lights. | ||
This ain't no drone. | ||
And again, this reports to be one of the UFOs flying over New Jersey, and it does seem to look like sort of wheels within wheels spinning as these lights go. | ||
Here's a very strange one. | ||
This guy points a laser pointer, a green light, Color laser pointer at the... | ||
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Also, for those of you at home, don't do that. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you probably shouldn't do this. | ||
But apparently, this guy points the laser at the UFO, and more UFOs pop out of the darkness around them. | ||
So that's interesting. | ||
Again, my guess is military technology, some sort of... | ||
I mean, New Jersey has big military fields, and really they're all pretty close. | ||
And again, I think if the government genuinely didn't know what this was, they would not be handling it in the way that they are. | ||
The way they're handling it is like you just saw Phil Murphy, where he's like, we don't know, and they're very mysterious, and you just report them, and there's lots of sightings. | ||
We can't really keep our head around them. | ||
Like, If the government is admitting it doesn't know what's going on, it does know what's going on. | ||
If you pay attention to government announcements from school shootings to major corruption investigations, their number one concern is getting across the message that they are competent and in charge and everything's under control. | ||
They'll literally be standing out of an elementary school with 15 dead children inside going, the police did our jobs perfectly. | ||
We are amazing and we are fantastic and you can't complain about what we did because everything we did was by the book and correct. | ||
So next question, right? | ||
It's always like, we are awesome. | ||
We are the best. | ||
Everything is under control. | ||
Don't ask questions. | ||
Don't look into it. | ||
We are in charge. | ||
Go to Sleep Citizen. | ||
That's always the message. | ||
So when they're not saying that, when they're going, oh gee, we don't know. | ||
It could be one thing, could be another. | ||
The White House is in on it, so it's definitely important, but we don't know what it is. | ||
It's like, nah, you know exactly what it is. | ||
I have a feeling you know exactly what it is. | ||
I have a feeling if you didn't, either... | ||
These videos would never make the light of day. | ||
It wouldn't be commented on. | ||
It wouldn't be reported on by mainstream media. | ||
It would be totally covered up. | ||
People still post things on social media. | ||
That's our workaround to their control system. | ||
But certainly mainstream media wouldn't be touching it. | ||
Or they would just identify these things and find out where they're going. | ||
I mean, it really can't be that hard. | ||
I genuinely do not believe that the American government doesn't have the satellites or the night vision or the drone technology themselves when the same thing is happening over and over when you have 49 sightings in one area in one night. | ||
Yeah, I don't think that's something the American government is incapable of handling and is just totally confused and can't figure it out. | ||
No, I don't think so. | ||
So, we just don't know. | ||
We just don't know, but I... I think it's the government. | ||
If I had to guess, they're up to something. | ||
Now, there are some strange aspects to this. | ||
A New Jersey resident has reported his fringe drone was somehow disabled, trying to intercept a rogue UFO drone. | ||
The video account was disabled, and the FBI apparently came to his home to interrogate him. | ||
So that's very strange. | ||
So according to people there, they say they have a drone, they fly the drone up. | ||
To meet the other drone, and it just shuts off midair. | ||
Which is a technology they have. | ||
Although typically the drones now, the technology is built in to where if you're within a mile of an airport, the drone just won't fly. | ||
Could it be Russia? | ||
Could it be China? | ||
Maybe if it was, I doubt we'd be seeing the response out of the government that we're seeing right now. | ||
I don't think I'm going to have time to go to any more videos, but we may be able to get to a phone call or two. | ||
Let's go to Chad in Minnesota, because I haven't talked about this much, but it was on my list. | ||
Disease X. What do you know about Disease X? This mysterious disease cropping up in the Congo. | ||
Chad in Minnesota. | ||
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Good morning, Harrison. | |
Go ahead. | ||
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Yeah, just calling in regards to, there's a lot of information. | |
I know you don't have much time, but Yeah, this Disease X play, there's some information that I stumbled upon going through the HHS site, and there's an article there that talks about Project Next Gen awards over $1.4 billion to develop the future of COVID-19 vaccines and therapeutics. | ||
And from there, this kind of opened up, and the information that I found is just ridiculous. | ||
They talk about BARDA, and I don't know if you're familiar with BARDA or the history of BARDA. Vaguely. | ||
Yeah, it's a group that's the Biomedical Advanced Research Envelopment Authority. | ||
It's like DARPA, but for... | ||
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Yes. | |
Yeah, yeah. | ||
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And it has... | |
There are two key players that I would like to put out as kind of an ATB, so to speak, to say, I think these guys might come up. | ||
Later on, there's former Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina. | ||
Oh, geez. | ||
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And there's also a gentleman, he's the doctor that was, it's Dr. Robert Kadlec, K-A-D-L-E-C. If people have time, look up the history in behind BARDA and all that information. | |
Well, What I was getting at is that all this money that's been approved through Congress and our taxpayers' money that's being put into this, I'm concerned that they might have some type of play with an EUA, | ||
or worse yet, it gets into final clinical trials and it gets through without having any information, kind of like what happened with Operation Warp Speed. - Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | ||
We're about to go to break. | ||
I wish I had more time with you. | ||
Please call back in tomorrow, Chad, and we'll try to look into it. | ||
Even what you've told me, I've already found headlines. | ||
Bardo Awards $500 million, Project Next Gen funding. | ||
So yeah, something's going on here, and I hope you were taking notes during that call. | ||
We'll be back on the other side with Cody Wilson. | ||
Don't go anywhere. | ||
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Welcome back, folks. | |
We, again, I was hoping to kind of move on from this, but we've got some very interesting developments in the story of Luigi Mangione, the person accused of killing Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare's insurance division. | ||
Chase Geiser just put this out on X. I just retweeted it. | ||
Newly discovered connection between Nancy Pelosi and Luigi Mangione raises questions in the UnitedHealth CEO murder investigation. | ||
There was a major cyber attack on UnitedHealth Group in February of 2024, which coincided with Paul Pelosi's $4 million investment in Palo Alto Networks, which later investigated the breach. | ||
Brian Thompson was murdered shortly before he was set to testify in a DOJ case that could have implicated Nancy Pelosi in insider trading. | ||
Luigi Mangione was a tech-savvy scion of a wealthy Maryland family with historic ties to the D'Alessandro family that Nancy Pelosi hails from. | ||
Nicholas Mangione, Luigi's grandfather, had ties to Thomas D'Alessandro Jr., Nancy Pelosi's grandfather, or her father rather, raising questions about longstanding family connections. | ||
So the shooter's grandfather was friends and partners with Nancy Pelosi's father. | ||
So in February 2024, which I wonder if that was about the time that his friends and family were saying that he went off the grid and lost contact with them. | ||
In February of 2024, UnitedHealth Group, one of the largest private insurers in the United States, suffered a catastrophic cyber attack. | ||
On the exact same day, Paul Pelosi and Nancy Pelosi's husband made a curious financial move, purchasing $4 million in call options for Palo Alto Networks, a leading cybersecurity firm. | ||
Shortly after, Palo Alto Networks was chosen to investigate the breach. | ||
Coincidence, perhaps, but the timing is eyebrow-raising, to say the least. | ||
As the fallout unfolded, UnitedHealth Group was left grappling with a $3.2 billion response bill, a tarnished reputation and data breaches impacting one-third of Americans. | ||
Apparently, Brian Thomas was scheduled to testify before the Department of Justice regarding potential insider trading allegations that could have implicated Pelosi. | ||
There's a couple stories about this. | ||
Let me find the headline here from CoinDesk. | ||
Slain UnitedHealthcare CEO was accused of insider trading amid DOJ probe. | ||
Brian Thompson was facing a lawsuit accusing him and other executives of insider trading related to an ongoing Justice Department investigation before he was fatally shot outside a New York City hotel on Wednesday. | ||
Again, you know, this was one of the One of the possibilities that we speculated about, saying, you know, maybe this guy was about to testify for something. | ||
Because again, it's like, okay, all of the evidence points towards this being a lone shooter disgruntled about his insurance coverage, taking it out on the CEO as some sort of revolutionary Ted Kaczynski-esque act. | ||
But that's also what you would want if you were doing a mob hit of some sort. | ||
But it just wasn't clean enough to be professional. | ||
I have the feeling if this was a professional hit, it kind of happens all the time. | ||
It's another sort of condemnation of American society. | ||
Unless you go look for it, you won't see a lot of the stories. | ||
Or unless it's local to you and you see it on the local news, you're not going to see stories that happen practically every week of, you know, just murder-suicide. | ||
Father kills whole family, kills himself. | ||
That's just like a quick news story. | ||
Maybe the guy was important, maybe he wasn't, but it doesn't really go anywhere. | ||
Like if this... | ||
If they wanted this to be professional, they easily could have framed this up as a suicide or a murder-suicide, ruin the guy's reputation while you're at it. | ||
What were you going to say, Matt? | ||
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Oh, no. | |
Yeah, I understand the fact of, you know, this being a public execution, right, to, like, make a statement, right, if you were to kind of go along those lines. | ||
But if you also think about the other aspect of, we cover this all the time, this notion of, like, the bystander effect or whatever, where, like, you know, if you're in a densely populated area, right, it... | ||
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Stands to reason that, you know, a bunch of other people are going to think, oh, someone else is calling the cops when, you know, no one really actually does, right? | |
Whereas like a sparsely populated area, most people, you know, their inhibitions are, you know, a little different. | ||
And so therefore, they're going to call the cops and, you know, they're going to try to help. | ||
Whereas, you know, in a city, you know, all these people said, oh, wow, this guy just... | ||
Went that way on a bike. | ||
Someone called the cops. | ||
So, you know, maybe it's like an amateur who got lucky or, you know, this person was really a PhD and really had a lot of education. | ||
Maybe they've come across that because, you know, people know about the bystander effect. | ||
Yeah, yeah, it could be. | ||
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I mean, look, he doesn't seem like a professional. | |
No, he doesn't. | ||
He doesn't seem like a professional. | ||
Again, you know, again, it's just all the evidence can point in both directions. | ||
He doesn't seem like a professional, but he was very calm. | ||
He executed the guy. | ||
The guy, I guess, had security, but wasn't with him at that point. | ||
He knew where to wait. | ||
You know, he knew where the guy would be. | ||
He knew that he'd be vulnerable. | ||
He had a getaway plan. | ||
He lasted longer than I thought. | ||
I was pretty sure this guy was going to be caught within 72 hours of the shooting going down. | ||
It's New York City and the... | ||
And it was embarrassing to them, right? | ||
This is a major thing. | ||
If you're the New York Police Department, you don't want people voiding your city for their big CEO gatherings, their investor meetings and stuff. | ||
That's a big source of revenue and prestige in your city. | ||
You're going to put a lot more effort into this than you are into... | ||
All of the other ridiculous crimes that are roiling your city. | ||
This one's different because it's the CEO and it was a daylight murder. | ||
So they had a lot of incentive to go after this guy. | ||
I thought he was going to be caught right away. | ||
The fact that he made it to Pennsylvania is impressive. | ||
The fact that he got caught with the gun and the manifesto and $10,000 in cash means he's kind of an idiot. | ||
I don't know. | ||
He could have scheduled a plane trip that afternoon, and before his picture had even been published, he could have been in the Bahamas, right? | ||
Then again, we have seen from his writing, he's not actually the brightest, in my opinion. | ||
So some interesting wrinkles there, some interesting associations. | ||
Let's see, what else did... | ||
This is what Chase said to me. | ||
He said, it's weird that Nancy Pelosi's dad knew Luigi Mangione's grandfather so well and that Luigi was a cyber expert and UnitedHealth was a victim of a major cyber attack. | ||
In the same day, Paul Pelosi bought $4 million in stock in a cyber company that happened to be the one that was contracted to investigate the cyber attack and that Brian Thompson was supposedly going to testify to the DOJ. Seems like it could have been a mob hit of some sort. | ||
A little sloppy for a mop head in my opinion. | ||
The stuff is worth considering. | ||
Thompson 50 was one of three United Health Group executives named in a class action lawsuit filed in May that accused them of dumping millions of dollars for the stock while the company was the subject of federal antitrust investigations, which investors say was not immediately disclosed to shareholders. | ||
United Health was aware of the DOJ investigation since at least October 2023. | ||
Instead of disclosing the material investigation to investors or the public, United Health insiders sold more than $120 million of personally held United Health shares. | ||
So that would be the insider trading accusation that Mr. Thompson was apparently going to testify about. | ||
Nearly $25 billion in shareholder value was erased once the investigation was publicly revealed in February. | ||
Thompson was able to sell off more than $15 million of his own UnitedHealth shares before the value dropped, however, suit states. | ||
Very interesting. | ||
Very interesting. | ||
Again, we'll have to wait as more is revealed. | ||
There's so many strange wrinkles to this. | ||
And even if it's exactly what it seems like, again, I think it's worth it to spend a lot of time and discussion on it because of what it represents in the arc of our National story and where we go from here. | ||
Now apparently he was found with what they're calling a ghost gun. | ||
We'll be joined by Cody Wilson, founder and director of Defense Distributed, really the forerunner and the premier ghost gun operation. | ||
The man arrested in Monday in connection with the fatal shooting of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is alleged to have a type of homemade weapon known as a ghost gun. | ||
Luigi Mangione, 26, whom police named as a strong person of interest, had a ghost gun that had the capability of firing at 9mm rounds and a suppressor when he was arrested on weapons charges in Altoona, Pennsylvania. | ||
Senior law enforcement officials told NBC News the weapon found in Mangione's possession appears to be similar to the weapon used in the Manhattan murder. | ||
Kenny said the weapon may have been made on a 3D printer. | ||
The thing about ghost guns is they don't do you very good if you carry them on you after the murder. | ||
I don't want to be giving hints as to how to pull this off even better, but I'm just saying I wouldn't have been caught. | ||
All I'm saying is I could have pulled it off if I'd wanted. | ||
That is the point of ghost guns, right? | ||
If you get rid of the gun, it doesn't have serial number, they can't trace it. | ||
Isn't that the point? | ||
But I guess he carried it with him. | ||
So we'll talk to Cody Wilson about the ghost gun aspect of this story as soon as he joins us here momentarily. | ||
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It's just very interesting. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Again, there's a lot of other stories that I'm going to have to save for tomorrow. | ||
They aren't exactly super time sensitive. | ||
In fact, I want to gather some of the videos that I have and some of the articles that I have. | ||
Because one thing I'm seeing... | ||
In the signals constantly is the push for this new set of anti-Semitism laws. | ||
And I really think we should be dedicating a lot of time to stopping this. | ||
It's a major, major incursion on the First Amendment. | ||
As Matt Gaetz pointed out when it was first suggested, the definition of antisemitism that they're trying to establish in America will make portions of the Christian gospel illegal because they blame the Jews for killing Jesus. | ||
And that's one of the things that's considered antisemitism. | ||
They want to make antisemitism illegal. | ||
And it's very disturbing to see so many on the so-called right going along with censorship in this one case. | ||
They would never do it if it was Muslims. | ||
They would never do it if it was Christians. | ||
Even if they're Christian, they would never say, you know, you're not allowed to question Christians. | ||
This is un-American. | ||
It's against the Constitution. | ||
It's against the First Amendment. | ||
And I'm seeing so many signals that this is like A major component of destroying our rights. | ||
They have found that the anti-Semitism angle is maybe the only way they can get conservative Americans to go along with censorship. | ||
So that's what they're going with, with everything they've got. | ||
And I've got videos from Pam Bondi and Mike Huckabee and Matt Gaetz and Alex Karp and Donald Trump himself seemingly going along with this. | ||
And it's extremely disturbing. | ||
And I can see so many of the organizations that hate us, the ADL, the SPLC, they are wholly dedicated to getting this law passed. | ||
So I think just out of sheer strategic defense, we should be putting everything we've got into stopping them from passing this. | ||
And explaining to people how exactly this will be implemented. | ||
I think I'm going to save that for tomorrow so I can really do it justice. | ||
But it's just a part of the encroachment, ever-accelerating encroachment on our God-given rights. | ||
This from the Daily Mail. | ||
Bombshell Report details exactly how banks worked with Biden officials who spy on pro-Trump Americans. | ||
The Biden administration worked with banks to spy on Americans without a warrant, a stunning new congressional report charges. | ||
The House Judiciary Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of Federal Government released its damning findings that banks targeted Americans supportive of President Elect Donald Trump. | ||
The federal government is spying on your bank account, the Republican-led panel posted in a video on X summarizing its 47-page report. | ||
The federal government has conditioned financial institutions to work for them. | ||
Another alarming slide on the video reads, What the video seeks to explain is the complex and convoluted process in which financial firms like Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chase, and more have all handed over their customers' data to the government for free. | ||
Saying, quote, next time you swipe your bank or credit card, know that somebody may be watching the subcommittee video eerily ads. | ||
And this, of course, is just, this is the neo-fascism that we've described, where they're finding workarounds to the Constitution by implementing tyrannical measures through corporations. | ||
It's the ultimate goal of so many of the programs that we see coming down the pipe. | ||
Even things like DEI and ESG and all this sort of stuff. | ||
It's all about using and weaponizing the power of corporations to enslave the people. | ||
It's very simple. | ||
You can't censor somebody. | ||
Well, you can reach out to Twitter and ask them politely to do it, and they will. | ||
Very... | ||
Effective, their method of doing this. | ||
And so they're accelerating it. | ||
To the point that they don't even have to ask. | ||
I'll have to look into this a little bit more. | ||
But when this first happened, I remember they... | ||
Acted like the banks just provided this information and were never asked for it. | ||
Now, I doubt that's true, but that was the story they told. | ||
They were just like, yeah, Bank of America just felt like giving this to us. | ||
And again, it's more insight into the fact that there are so many people in positions of power, in corporations, governmental organizations, NGOs, that are conspiring in the open. | ||
This is the advancement of the so-called conspiracy theory. | ||
It used to be that you had to hide that sort of stuff. | ||
You had to do things in shadowy rooms and get things passed without anybody knowing. | ||
Now they're just open about it and they feel justified in doing what they're doing. | ||
Alright, we were able to get Cody Wilson on here in the last three minutes. | ||
We'll have to have him on later, maybe for a longer segment. | ||
But just quickly, Cody Wilson, founder and director of Defense Distributed, a non-profit organization that develops and publishes open-source gun designs suitable for 3D printing and digital manufacture. | ||
You can follow him on X at radomysysky.com. | ||
I don't know how I'm supposed to pronounce that. | ||
And the website is defdist.org. | ||
That's defdist. | ||
D-E-F-D-I-S-T dot O-R-G. Cody Wilson, thanks for joining us. | ||
We only have a few minutes. | ||
What is your take on this CEO killing and the fact that they're saying he allegedly used a ghost gun? | ||
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I think he did. | |
I've seen the evidence photos, and I've evaluated the video like everyone else has. | ||
It does... | ||
It does seem that he used a printed Glock-type frame, and it in fact seems like he used a printed suppressor. | ||
I can recognize these designs. | ||
They've been online for many years. | ||
Do you think this will be used to, you know, put more legislation forward, try to go after 3D-printed guns even more? | ||
Is it even possible to stop it now that these designs are out there? | ||
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Well, definitely my original position is you can't stop this. | |
This is why this happened. | ||
New York City is one of the most gun-controlled places in the world, and yet this guy slips in and out with 3D printed guns and suppressors. | ||
Yes, I do think there will be attempted regulation. | ||
In fact, we seem to have been previewed with this attempt back in September, where Kamala's Office of Gun Violence Prevention says, you know, we're going to study the 3D printed gun question and the files question, see what we can do. | ||
I find this event suspicious in that it happened at the very end of this presidency. | ||
I do too. | ||
There's a lot of suspicious things about this and more and more suspicious stuff coming out almost daily. | ||
What would your argument be when they say, look, this is proof 3D printed guns are very dangerous. | ||
You know, if you can have this random guy shot, I mean, this is why we got to get rid of him. | ||
What's your response to that? | ||
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Well, they will say that, and people like Senator Mark Kelly have said, fine, maybe we can't stop the distribution, but we can, at the state or federal level, criminalize possession, or we can further criminalize the stuff without acts of Congress. | |
I don't know that that's true, but I do think the State Department and the Commerce Department are still involved here in a way that people have not accounted for, they have not appreciated, and we may see executive action, if not from this president, then from the next, trying to restrict how this stuff is shared online. | ||
Isn't it strange that he had it with him? | ||
I mean, again, there's so many suspicious things about this. | ||
If you pull off this murder, you're free for three days, you get out of the city, and yet he's carrying around the gun, cash, and the manifesto. | ||
I mean, again, the suspicious things about this. | ||
I mean, what do you think is actually behind this shooting? | ||
You have any... | ||
Theories. | ||
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It's bizarre. | |
If I read the manifesto and when I read it, I go, okay, that's not, that can't be right. | ||
That can't be real. | ||
This must not be the real manifesto. | ||
And again, what, he's sitting in a McDonald's with it? | ||
Like, what? | ||
I just don't. | ||
And yet there's something about it. | ||
There's an absurd quality to it, which is like, well, this must be real. | ||
But this guy must have been ill, right? | ||
This guy must have been experiencing pain or illness in a way that I can't take this as a credible political act. | ||
And at the same time, gosh, it was effective. | ||
Yeah, and it's concerning to see so many people celebrating it when they really don't know the details of any of it. | ||
It speaks to a spirit alive in America right now of people just want violence. | ||
They want something to happen, and I'm worried where that goes. | ||
We'll have to have you on again later. | ||
I'm sorry we tried to get you on last minute. | ||
I'd love to have you on for an extended conversation about this and just ghost guns in general. | ||
Cody Wilson, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
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