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unidentified
I think we need to push back on this.
There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy.
There's no guarantee to free speech.
There's no guarantee to free speech.
alex jones
It's not like they're Boss Hogg, you can make a deal with him.
unidentified
If Sheriff Roscoe runs the county, Boss Hogg runs Roscoe.
alex jones
Look, if they were Boss Hogg, I wouldn't fight him as hard.
I wouldn't sell out to him, but I wouldn't, you know, risk my life constantly and go head up against him if they just wanted to run things and skim off the top.
We're not in, good old boy.
unidentified
Boss Hogg just wants to have the biggest house in the town.
Uh, boss, about the election.
Well, you just better win.
That honest John Ledbetter, who's running against you, can't be bought.
You mean tell me he's honest?
He's so crooked, he makes you look straight.
alex jones
I live in a town with Boss Hogg, I just leave.
I'm not gonna risk my life over Boss Hogg.
Because Boss Hogg doesn't want to cut your son's genitals off.
Boss Hogg doesn't want a nuclear war with the Russians.
Boss Hogg ain't dumping chemicals in the water to make your son, uh, you know, feminine.
unidentified
We want to do internship programs and fellowship programs with Children's Minnesota and other places where people can learn gender-affirming care.
I mean, the guy literally wants to assist in transition surgeries for children.
So I don't know any hunter, fisherman, conservative that would even think that that's okay and want to hypersexualize children like that.
So I think he's a freak.
alex jones
This is not a joking matter, ladies and gentlemen.
This is not like, oh, we're calling them communists because that hurts them.
No, they are.
They are totalitarians using communist tactics.
kamala harris
He has lost his privileges and it should be taken down.
And the bottom line is that you can't say that you have one rule for Facebook and you have a different rule for Twitter.
The same rule has to apply, which is that there has to be a responsibility that is placed on these social media sites to understand their power.
They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation.
And that has to stop.
unidentified
The man who actually funded her and financed her was a man called Stephen Phillips.
He was an open Marxist-Leninist very closely affiliated with a pro-Chinese communist group called the League of Revolutionary Struggle.
And he was very good friends of a young radical named Maya Harris.
He knew Maya Harris's family very well.
And, of course, Maya was the sister of Kamala Harris.
Well, Steve Phillips, in the early 90s, he led much of the League of Revolutionary Struggle into the Democratic Party.
They changed the name of the organisation, they became a group called the Unity Organising Centre, and many of them moved into the Democratic Party, as did Steve Phillips.
So they understood, and I've been saying this for several years now, that Kamala Harris would be the candidate for the Democrats in 2020, because she's part of the Steve Phillips stable.
She is one of his proteges.
I have seen the work of PowerPack around the country.
It really is the work that inspires a lot of people to even consider the fact that they could be leaders.
And know that if they choose to take that step, there will be support in them.
And the support will be broad, and it will be deep, and it will be significant.
kamala harris
We can see what is possible unburdened by what has been.
dr james lindsey
So you can see the possibility of a world that's unburdened from its own history, which is exactly what Mao Zedong did when he launched the campaign of Smash the Four Olds, the four old characteristics of Chinese society.
They're gonna make the new man, as a matter of fact.
People could become unburdened by what has been so that they could see what could possibly be in the terms of a socialist utopia.
unidentified
There has never been a full accounting for the chaos of the Cultural Revolution or for Mao's most disastrous policy of all, the Great Leap Forward, his attempt to modernize China's economy that led to famine and, say some historians, the deaths of at least 45 million people.
Yeah, I think it's a great idea, but I mean, listen, I don't think we lack for great ideas.
As I've said many times, we've been having great ideas for decades.
The problem is that Congress does not have the courage to act.
alex jones
And that is why, from the beginning, I have said my agenda includes attempting to get Congress to act, but if they don't within the first 100 days of my administration, I'm going to take It is an anti-human, post-human, looking forward to the end of humans, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, I've been in grocery stores and seen magazines at the checkout saying the world without humans would be great!
It's all over the place!
It's on Fox News!
Don't have kids, they're bad for the earth!
It's a damn death cult!
unidentified
It's Wednesday, September 4th, in the year of our Lord, 2020.
In the year by Lord.
And you're listening to the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch it live right now at band.video.
I think it's time to blow this thing.
harrison smith
Get everybody and the stuff together.
dr james lindsey
Okay, three, two, one, let's jam.
harrison smith
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to the American Journal.
I'm your host, Harrison Smith, coming to you live this Wednesday, the 4th of September, 2024.
Very big show we have for you today.
Very exciting stuff coming up.
Of course, I don't know if you fine folks have been on the internet recently.
It's a bit of a firestorm.
No pun intended.
It's a bit of a firestorm.
Over the Holocaust, over Winston Churchill and Adolf Hitler.
Yes, they're back.
They're back and fighting it out once again, this time on Twitter.
We're going to talk about it, we're going to get into it, we're going to prove yet again Bizarrely enough, as contrary as this would seem, should you believe the lies about us, InfoWars is, has been, and will continue to be, the most nuanced, historically literate, loving, and unbowed media outlet in existence.
It's pretty amazing to see how quickly people choose one extreme or the other.
We, uh, as always, we'll give you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
So stay tuned for that.
We'll take your calls as well.
We'll be taking your calls.
We'll be showing videos.
We have guest Jennifer Hicks in the third, or the second hour rather,
speaking on behalf of Jeremy Brown, who is a whistleblower,
exposing that the FBI tried to recruit him to commit a false flag attack on January 6th
and has been imprisoned for his trouble.
Very interested to speak for him.
So a lot coming up, stay tuned.
But we'll begin today as we do every day with our Daily Dispatch.
All right, here it is, folks, your Daily Dispatch for Wednesday, the 4th of September, 2024.
U.S.
prepares to provide Ukraine with long-range cruise missiles to target deep into Russian territory.
The United States is close to an agreement, but to provide Ukraine with long-range cruise missiles that could reach deep into Russia.
But Kiev will have to wait several months as the United States works through technical issues before delivery, said U.S.
officials.
The incursion of Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missiles, JASSM, in the weapons package is expected to be announced this autumn, three sources told Reuters news agency.
Although no final decision has been made, the sources declined to be named.
Sending JASSMs to Ukraine could significantly alter the strategic balance of the conflict by putting more of Russia within range of precise munitions.
Precision munitions, a major concern for the Biden administration now.
I mean, previously, it was if we were to provide these weapons, that would be World War Three.
And that's a red line we're not prepared to cross.
But having crossed it, we're going all in now, I guess.
I guess that's the case.
Meanwhile, Kathy Hochul aide charged with acting as agent for Chinese Communist Party.
Do I look shocked folks?
I tell you I'm shocked.
Federal prosecutors disclosed in a comprehensive indictment on Tuesday that a former deputy chief of staff to New York Governor Kathy Hochul has been allegedly acting as an undisclosed agent of the Chinese government, the United States Attorney's Office of Eastern District New York said in a press release.
Maybe a little bit misleading when they say aid.
No, this was the deputy chief of staff.
This was number two at the state government of New York State.
Was a Chinese spy.
But I'm a little bit confused here.
I'm getting mixed signals from the powers that be.
What's wrong with being a Chinese spy?
Isn't that, I mean, isn't that what America is now?
I mean, isn't that the point?
Don't we have congresspeople and senators whose entire career is very deliberately and openly and blatantly dedicated to serving their own ethnic interest or home country?
I thought that's what you're supposed to do in America.
You're supposed to come to America, you're supposed to bring all of your ethnic grievances with you, and you're supposed to use the wealth and power of the American people to get stuff for your people.
That's the point, isn't it?
I don't understand.
What's wrong with being a Chinese spy if Ilhan Omar can be a Somali representative?
You know, she can tell her Somali constituents that she's there to serve the interest of Somalia as a congresswoman.
I don't understand.
Isn't that the point?
If Chuck Schumer can say he's the guardian of Israel and that's his purpose of being a senator, what's wrong with being a Chinese spy?
I think this whole charging people for being a spy, it's sort of passe.
It's sort of a traditional view of nationalism.
It's all very passe.
I think this is perfectly in line with the modern Democrat Party.
It's supposed to be nothing but various foreign groups vying for themselves and against everybody else.
I'm a little bit confused, but hey, they got her.
I wonder what gave it away.
I wonder what gave away the fact that she was a Chinese agent.
Meanwhile, U.S.
charges Hamas leaders over October 7th massacre in Israel.
See, this is what I'm talking about.
This is what I'm talking about.
unidentified
Isn't this the proper function of the Justice Department?
harrison smith
I mean, forget the out-of-control crime wave caused by the open borders and migration.
Isn't America supposed to be here to serve the overseas interests of foreign people like Israelis?
I mean, that's what we're here for.
I don't understand.
The Justice Department announced criminal charges Tuesday against Hamas leader Yahweh Sinwar and other senior militants in connection with the October 7, 2023 rampage in Israel, marking the first effort by American law enforcement to formally call out the masterminds of the attack.
In a different country.
But apparently, we're charging them now.
Okay.
The seven-count criminal complaint filed in federal court in New York City includes charges such as conspiracy to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization resulting in death, conspiracy to murder U.S.
nationals, and conspiracy to finance terrorism.
It also accuses Iran and Lebanon's Hezbollah of providing financial support, weapons including rockets and military supplies for Hamas to use in attacks.
The impact of the case may mostly be symbolic given that Sinoir is believed to be hiding in
tunnels in Gaza and the Justice Department says three of the six defendants are believed now to
be dead. Well that's called rapid justice. It's called justice at the speed of science.
Sure you can charge them and hold a case here in America for what they did overseas or you can just
bomb them at their safe house in Tehran. Either way it's the international rule of law that we
must go to war to uphold.
Meanwhile, Nashville Covenant shooter Audrey Hale's manifesto has been released by the Tennessee Star on Tuesday, over a year after the fatal Covenant school shooting in Nashville.
The Tennessee Star and editor-in-chief Michael Patrick Leahy released 90 pages of writings left behind by Audrey Hale.
The writings were done between January and March of 2023, leading up to the March 27, 2023 shooting that saw three nine-year-old children and three staff members killed.
Hale was fatally shot by police in the school.
The star said that the journal was legally obtained from a source familiar with the investigation in June 2024, and the notebook was recovered from Hale's vehicle by the Metro Nashville Police Department alongside a spiral-bound notebook following the shooting.
The red-lined page notebook features name Aiden written on the cover.
Aiden was the name that the trans-identifying school shooter went by.
We can get into this a little bit later but suffice it to say that there's a reason that they wanted it hidden.
same reason that they will so rapidly show you the manifesto from shooters who represent
a demographic they want to demonize.
They released that quickly to make sure that everybody knows that it was the ideas, the
media, the websites they went to, it was, you know, they really are desperate to drive
home the underlying cause of the violence as being the free speech of people not associated
with the shooting.
But when it's ideas that are left wing and ideas that are all about DEI or transgenderism,
those inspiring a mass shooting, those have to be concealed and hidden and buried, hoping
that the media landscape will shift and people just won't be interested in it anymore.
So it's taken them a while, but they finally released it and we'll get more into that later.
Elon Musk deletes post promoting Tucker Carlson video following backlash.
Elon Musk has deleted a post on X, formerly Twitter, promoting former Fox News host Tucker Carlson's latest interview after receiving heavy backlash.
On September 3rd, Musk shared a post from Carlson which included his interview with Daryl Cooper, a podcaster who hosts the history show Martyr Made.
The pair discussed the Holocaust and events of World War II with Cooper making comments that have been widely called out for appearing sympathetic towards Hitler.
And that is...
Unacceptable.
It's unacceptable and thus the firestorm and thus the absolute cacophonous chaotic madness that has reigned supreme on Twitter for the last 24 hours or so.
We're going to get into it.
We're going to talk about it.
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So yes, folks, we're going to do it.
We are going to question the Holocaust.
Be prepared, folks.
I hope everybody's ready.
We'll show you some clips from the interview, some of the more outrageous, objectionable statements from this thinly cloaked Nazi apologist.
And this is the thing, it's extremism on both sides that services nobody.
And this is the point I've been making for years, that when you only tell half the story, if you think that World War II or World War I, all of the various contributing factors to these just absolute tragedies of the human race.
If you think that they're black and white, if you think that your History Channel documentary is telling you the full story, you're Maybe a little simple-minded.
You may be a little simple-minded because when you're only hearing half the story, intelligent, skeptical people will ask what they're missing and they'll go looking for it.
And what they'll find is not You know, the whole story, what they'll find is the opposite half of the story.
So you've got stories that portray Nazi Germany as just like senselessly, baselessly, but mystically evil, right?
And that story doesn't really make much sense.
There's got to be something else behind it.
I mean, Germany is this highly intelligent, highly modern state with millions of free thinking people.
Just to suggest that this guy Hitler got up and hypnotized all of them.
They all started just hating the Jews for no reason and wanted to kill all of them because they were tricked.
Like it just doesn't make any sense.
There's something missing there.
So you go to find out what that is and you're greeted with another documentary that'll tell you Hitler was amazing and he did nothing wrong and everything that he did was economic policy and everyone was happy and nobody was sad and nobody died.
And it's like, okay, so you've gone from one extreme lie to the other extreme lie.
Where's the truth?
And this, this is the problem is nobody's telling the truth.
Nobody's telling the whole truth.
Nobody's looking at this in a nuanced way, which means everybody is wrong one way or another.
So we're actually going to, uh, look at this from an objective point of view and see that.
Yeah.
Martyr made, made some pretty obvious points.
And even the outrage about this is just nonsensical.
And I'll tell you how I, I think of it in sort of two ways.
That you've got the Lower Age Holocaust and the Capital Age Holocaust.
The Lower Age Holocaust is the historical reality.
is the fact that millions upon millions of innocent people were targeted for who they were
or who they were associated with and were murdered by a sickening machine of death
that just shattered the lives of uncountable millions over the course of several years.
And this is history.
This is just reality.
It's just what actually happened.
And you can debate about it and you can research into it.
You can question the numbers.
You can learn new things and fold the new revelations into your understanding.
And it's all very simple.
That's the lowercase holocaust, the actual just historical events that occurred in and around World War II.
Then there's the Capital H Holocaust, which is a religious institution.
Which is a matter of faith, which is less reliant on historical reality and more imposed by fiat.
You're not supposed to question any aspect of it.
You're not even supposed to suggest that questioning it is a possibility.
And in this way, it is far, far more similar to some sort of religious dogma than it is history.
These are two different things.
And I'm against treating the past like a religious imperative.
You have to be able to question what happened.
You have to be able to ask questions.
And if you allow people to do that, and you just explain what actually happened, what's the harm?
Like, who cares?
I mean, some people were bad, some people were good, some people thought they were doing good.
Their intentions ended up counter to the reality.
I mean, this is history we're talking about.
It's not black and white as much as people want to pretend it is.
So, when people say that, as Martyr Maid Cooper, Daryl Cooper, does, that Winston Churchill was the primary villain of World War II, well, there's a lot of points to make in that regard.
There's a lot of Things that he did and whether they were, you know, made in sober judgment and intended for a good result and ended up backfiring or whether they were deliberate provocations.
It's kind of hard to say at this point, but we're looking back with the benefit of hindsight in a way that the people of the time didn't have.
Now, the irony of all of this, of course, is that by questioning Winston Churchill, Daryl Cooper has kicked the bee's nest here.
He has inspired outrage from every side saying, how dare you?
How dare you question the heroism of Hitler?
How dare you question the heroism of Churchill?
How dare you?
If he's not a hero, nobody is.
Which is interesting because, correct me if I'm wrong, are they not tearing down statues of Winston Churchill as we speak?
Has there not been an arrest made in the UK of somebody quoting Winston Churchill?
I mean, would it be legal these days to quote Winston Churchill in regards to defending our island nation?
We'll fight on the beaches, we'll fight in the land, we'll fight, I mean...
Really?
Against invaders?
You're calling on regular Britons to rise up and fight in the streets against invaders?
I mean, is that really something you want to do?
So it doesn't really make any sense.
I mean, if you quote Churchill... Yeah, Churchill was a racist.
Like, I thought we were supposed to be against Churchill now.
I'm a little bit confused.
See, it's all a little bit convoluted, isn't it?
Not if it really makes that much sense.
Let's go to these videos.
Let's go to a few videos of Martyr Made on Tucker Carlson.
I'll comment on the other side.
I got a couple here.
I won't be able to go to the full video, but we'll go to clip 12 because I think this is where he says the things that's making everybody very angry.
But you gotta listen to it yourself, because you can hear as he tells this story, he's like, yeah, I'm being a little bit provocative.
You know, maybe I'm being a little bit hyperbolic here when I say this, but all of that nuance gets thrown out the window and it becomes, Martyr Maid, Nazi apologist says Churchill was evil.
And it's like, all right, why don't you listen to what he actually said?
So let's listen to what he actually said, shall we?
Clip number 12, Martyr Maid, let's listen.
darryl cooper
You know, if you go to 1939, When the Germans and the Soviet Union invade Poland.
As soon as that war's wrapped up on the German side, Hitler starts firing off peace proposals to Britain, France, because they had already declared war.
He didn't expect them to declare war, actually.
There's a famous scene where he kind of throws a fit when he finds out that they actually did do that.
And so he doesn't want to fight France.
He doesn't want to fight Britain.
He feels that's going to weaken Europe when we've got this huge threat to the east, the communist threat over there.
And he starts firing off peace proposals.
He says, let's not do this.
Like, we can't do this.
And of course, you know, a year goes by, 1940 comes around and they're still at war.
And so he launches his invasion to the West, takes over France, takes over Western and Northern Europe.
Once that's done, the British have, you know, escaped at Dunkirk.
There's no British force left on the continent.
There's no opposing force left on the continent.
In other words, the war is over and the Germans won.
tucker carlson
But by what point?
darryl cooper
Fall of 1940.
So there's literally no opposing force on the continent.
And throughout that summer, Adolf Hitler is firing off radio broadcasts, giving speeches, literally sending planes over to drop leaflets over London and other British cities, trying to get the message to these people that Germany does not want to fight you.
Like, we don't want to fight you.
Offering peace proposals that, you know, said you keep all your overseas colonies.
We don't want any of that.
We want Britain to be strong.
The world needs Britain to be strong, you know, especially as we face this communist threat and so forth.
Like, this is what's going on.
harrison smith
So what he's saying there is more or less true.
He had Rudolph Hess actually airdropped into Scotland with a peace proposal that they were under the understanding that this would be seriously considered by Britain and Britain simply imprisoned him and lied about it until after the war.
Pretty troubling stuff.
We'll go now to clip number five here.
This is where he says what he says about Winston Churchill being a villain.
darryl cooper
Uh, I got in trouble with my podcast partner, Jocko Willink, one time because he's a New England Dutchman who's his family.
It's near and dear to their Dutch, but very near and dear to their heart that Winston Churchill is a hero, right?
tucker carlson
Everyone thinks that.
darryl cooper
He really thinks that.
And I told him that I think, and maybe I'm being a little hyperbolic, maybe, but I told him, maybe trying to provoke him a little bit, that I thought Churchill was the chief villain of the Second World War.
Now, he didn't kill the most people.
He didn't commit the most atrocities.
But I believe, and I don't really think, I think when you really get into it and tell the story right and don't leave anything out, you see that he was primarily responsible for that war becoming what it did, becoming something other than an invasion of Poland or Just, I mean, at every step of the way, like, people are very often, I find, surprised to learn.
There's a two-step process.
tucker carlson
Well, why don't you just make the case for that?
Okay, so you've made your statement.
A lot of people are thinking, well, wait a second.
You said, Churchill, my childhood hero, the guy with the cigar.
darryl cooper
Yeah.
Well, and the next thought that comes into their head is that, oh, you're saying Churchill was the chief villain, therefore his enemies, you know, Adolf Hitler and so forth, were the protagonists, right?
They're the good guys.
If you think he's a villain, that's not the case.
That's not what I'm saying.
You know, Germany, Look, they put themselves into a position and Adolf Hitler is chiefly responsible for this.
harrison smith
Hitler did nothing wrong.
A Nazi apologist clearly on the side of Adolf Hitler.
If that's what you heard in that little clip right there, you need your hearing checked.
Look, it's not just World War II.
Winston Churchill had a huge part to play in the run-up and catastrophe of World War I. And it was his blockade of Germany that starved them after the war, that forced them to take the terms that indebted and impoverished them to the point that the Nazis could rise in the first place.
They had help with that, by the way, with the likes of John Foster Dulles being the one to put in the guilt clause into the Treaty of Versailles.
That has, again, led to the rise of Hitler.
It's a complicated issue, folks.
Welcome back.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's go to another clip here of Tucker Carlson and Daryl Cooper, a.k.a.
Martyr Maid, in their podcast, where they dared a question Historical events, which is illegal, I remind you.
Or it will be soon.
Or it will be soon, because it turns out the Holocaust is an extremely useful tool to guilt people into doing things they wouldn't otherwise do.
And again, nothing about this is new from us, from before.
I mean, this is what we've talked about forever.
The dishonest and cynical way that bad actors will use things like the Holocaust to browbeat Americans into submission.
It's an insult to people who died in the Holocaust.
It's an insult to the people who risk and lost their lives to stop the Holocaust.
And it might not be going on for too much longer.
It might not be as effective soon as it is now.
And again, it's not like I have to speculate or even say my own thoughts.
Just listen to the people that are doing bad things in this world right now.
Alejandro Mayorkas, when questioned about why we have an open border, says, well, my grandparents were killed in the Holocaust, okay?
So the Holocaust is why we have to have open borders.
Why does Anthony Blinken go to Israel and say, I come to you, you know, not as an American, but as a Jew and Israel must exist because, you know, hashtag never again, we can't have another Holocaust.
So our support of Israel to an absurd degree, destroying our own reputation overseas, killing tens of thousands of innocent people, all of that also predicated on the Holocaust and preventing another one from happening.
Free speech on campuses, protesting the war overseas.
That can't be countenanced because, of course, the Holocaust.
Why did the German government give little boys to pedophiles for decades?
Well, if you look at the main designer of that little experiment, he said it was because sexual morality and You know, lack of permissiveness was a prerequisite for fascism.
So to fight fascism and prevent another holocaust, you have to, you know, let the pedophiles rape the orphans.
There's a lot of bad stuff that's predicated on the holocaust and it ain't good.
At the same time, you have to have sympathy for the people that actually went through the holocaust.
And the people, the descendants of the people who went through the holocaust.
And there's nothing, you know, dishonest or manipulative about a, you know, Jewish grandparent telling their grandchild about their life in Poland when they were happy and free.
And then one day the Nazis kicked in the door and dragged their whole family away.
I mean, that really happened to people that are living right now in America.
And of course it would be absurd to, you know, tell those people or their descendants, yeah, whatever, stop worrying.
That's never gonna happen.
Who cares?
It's like, well, it happened to them, so I don't exactly blame them for being a little bit hesitant and wary about that happening again, perhaps.
At the same time, on the flip side of that, you've got people like Sarah Silverman, noted comedian, saying that the American flag scares her because, you know, nationalism is a threat to Jews.
And it's just a little convoluted that you've got the symbol of America, the symbol of the American flag, which was a symbol, a unalloyed symbol of freedom to the people in the camps who saw the American flag, you know, come over the gates.
And that was their, you know, that was like, like a descending angel freeing them from bondage.
Only for two generations later, those same people's granddaughters say it's an evil symbol of nationalism.
It's all very convoluted and mixed up and nonsensical.
And that's what happens when you remove truth from being able to be appropriately discussed.
Because that's all that's happening here, is there are lines being drawn down that are saying what you can and can't believe, what you can and can't question, what you can and can't listen to.
But we're Americans and we reject those limitations to the Overton window.
And we'll talk about the history and we'll talk about the outcome in a sober and clear eyed way.
So let's go again to this video of Tucker Carlson and Martyr Maid.
I think it's clip number eight here.
Is that the two minute one?
Yeah, let's go now to clip number eight.
Here's a Tucker Carlson and Darryl Cooper asking the question, did Britain win the Second World War?
Because it doesn't seem like it.
Let's watch.
tucker carlson
But from a Western perspective, I think it's fair to say, our leaders make the case implicitly, that it's really only when Europeans have a sense of themselves as Europeans that the world is in peril, but everyone else is fine to do that.
darryl cooper
Yeah, I mean, you know, they don't see those other people as a threat.
You know, either because the people who formulate these narratives don't live in those places, or they don't have historical experience with those people, and so they don't see them as the same kind of threat.
tucker carlson
Totally self-hating place.
It's a husk.
Yeah.
It's depressing as hell, though also wonderful in a way, but it's going away.
But they lost.
At least you could say they lost two world wars in a row.
darryl cooper
Yeah.
tucker carlson
Britain won two world wars in a row.
And if anything, it's more degraded than Germany.
So like, just to take it back to the first thing I said, and I'll shut up and let you answer, but if Churchill is a hero, How come there are British girls begging for drugs on the street of London?
And the place is, you know, it's just there.
London is not majority English now.
Like, what?
darryl cooper
Well, the people who formulated the version of history that considers Churchill a hero, they like London the way it is now, you know?
tucker carlson
But that's not victory.
That's like the worst kind of defeat, is it not?
I mean, I'm just confused.
darryl cooper
If you're an English person who cares about England, then yeah, absolutely it is.
I mean, it's Forget about victory and defeat.
It's the worst thing that can happen.
You know, if you look at what's going on over lately in in England, where you're having riots, you're having these, you know, sort of budding violent confrontations between nationalists and the police and so forth, which, you know, I think our natural We like order, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
darryl cooper
Like, Europeans, we like order, and we see things like that, and we have a natural aversion to disorder, to street violence.
tucker carlson
Yes, for sure.
darryl cooper
We might be, you know, war might be necessary, but disorderly mob violence, things like that, like, immediately make us kind of take a step back, because most of our experience with those things is really bad.
And at the end of the day, like, it is an unleashing of evil spirits, no matter what the cause or the reason is.
Um, and yet when I look over there at what the British people, some of them are trying to do, I, I, I kind of, I refuse to judge them for, uh, whatever, for doing whatever it is that they feel they have to do as their homeland, their ancient homeland is being taken from them.
Because that is not something that can be walked back.
That is permanent.
That is something that ends your existence as a people.
harrison smith
Can't say I disagree.
Can't say I disagree with any of that.
And of course, again, you know, just to say it again, the irony is that if you brought Winston Churchill back right now, you think he'd be okay with what's going on in Britain?
Or do you think he'd be arrested for You know, calling for an expulsion of the foreign invaders.
I mean, again, this is the this is the irony is that in any other situation, somebody like Winston Churchill and the things that he believed in, the things that he wrote in the events that he was involved in from colonization of Africa to I mean, it just goes on and on.
He would be reviled.
He would be he would be Hitler, you know, in the absence of Hitler.
But because he is the the, you know, chief Warfighter against Hitler, then I guess he's given a pass on everything and you can't question him for anything?
Again, it's like, you know, part of me goes, well, you know, Winston Churchill made a lot of really bad decisions, a lot of really extreme decisions.
A lot of, you know, bad things that happened during the war were responses to what Churchill did.
You know, Hitler didn't start bombing British cities until Winston Churchill started saturation bombing places like Dresden.
and others the home front right the fact that now uh you know innocent people working in factories well they're the ones who create the ammunition so they're valid targets i mean that was a winston churchill provocation in many ways Then at the same time, you know, you've got Black Lives Matter writing, Churchill's a racist on a statue.
And it's like, all right, well, screw you then.
I mean, it's a nuanced thing, folks.
We're going to continue this on the other side and we're going to solve the Holocaust question once and for all.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the American Journal.
We have a lot of news to get to.
That has absolutely nothing to do with War 80 years ago.
And I'm going to get to that.
I'm just going to open up the phone lines for your calls in the third hour.
We're going to be welcoming a guest in the next hour.
talk about January 6th and the mistreatment of the January 6th prisoners and the just
absolutely unconscionable treatment that innocent patriots are receiving at the hands of our
despotic leadership these days.
And we'll open up the phone calls for your input on this topic.
I mean, this is like, this is like the topic online right now.
I mean, it's pretty much the only thing anybody's really talking about.
And for good reason, for good reason.
The Holocaust plays such an outsized role in our modern understanding of the world and
geopolitics and morality itself.
I mean, it is in many ways the founding myth of the modern world.
And it's a negative myth to begin on.
And somehow the people responsible for stopping the Holocaust are now the ones being blamed for it.
In other words, the white people in Britain and America and Canada and Australia and Everywhere else around the world who put a stop to Hitler's shenanigans are now apparently, you know, they're going to do it themselves.
I mean, white people are going to holocaust everybody unless they're, you know, continuously battered down and bastardized and humiliated.
Which is, which is nonsense, which is insanity.
A couple important, you know, things to remind people, because when you talk about historic illiteracy in this country, oh boy, I mean, if you ask the average high schooler, you know, college kid about history, you're likely going to get two events.
They probably know two things about history.
They know slavery and the Holocaust.
And both of these things, of course, used to demonize white people.
Slavery and the Holocaust.
That's what they know.
Now, They don't give credit to the people who put a stop to the Holocaust, and they don't give credit to the white people who ended slavery as a practice around the world once and for all.
No, they have to be saddled with the guilt while receiving none of the praise for what they actually did, which was ending these abominable practices.
But a couple important things to note that people might slash I definitely know they don't realize.
Nobody had heard of the death camps.
Nobody had heard of the Holocaust by the time the war was over.
We did not go to war in Europe to stop a Holocaust.
We didn't know what was happening.
In books about the war, Winston Churchill wrote like a seven-volume recollection of the Second World War.
He never mentions the Holocaust.
He never mentions death camps.
So why did we go to war?
Now, if you ask people, why'd we go to World War II?
They'd say, oh, because the Jews were being killed in Europe.
Well, that was certainly part of it.
But, not really.
But honestly, not really.
And, you know, Hitler did offer to export the Jews to any other European country.
Something like 32 countries.
He said, do you want the Jews?
We got them here.
We can ship them to you.
And everybody said no.
Everybody said no.
So why'd we go to war with the Nazis?
Well, because their worldview, their ideology is anathema to the Christian West and American or British ideals.
I'm against Israel right now because they practice collective punishment on the Palestinians.
What did the Nazis do?
I mean, were the Nazis Christian?
Or did they practice collective punishment and punish innocent people for the crimes of others?
Again, it's not it's not as black and white.
It's not as clear cut as you'd like to believe.
And you have to take it back to at least World War One, in which again, Churchill played an outsized role in the lead up to and execution of World War One.
He was the Secretary of the Navy at the time.
And if you want to read some, you know, good books about this, read Patrick Buchanan's The Unnecessary War.
Or the biography of Winston Churchill by David Irving.
Again, it's it's hard to it's hard to say whether he just loved war like he just because he did.
He certainly genuinely loved war.
Which I find sort of sickening.
But he loved it.
He was very into war.
And in his worldview and in his mindset and his strategic interpretation of the landscape, he did what was necessary to maintain Britain's supremacy over the high seas.
And he used that to viciously punish Germany for World War I.
But there's so many aspects of this to get into, and again, that's why we're going to have to continue it, you know, in the third hour and take your calls on it, just as a guide for me personally to know where to even begin with this, because, you know, you could go back over Churchill's entire biography where he was fighting in the Boer War.
He likely killed somebody with a spear.
That's the other thing you have to understand.
The changes that came about in Churchill's lifetime are, like, unimaginable.
Like, he was born into a world with, like, knights and cavalry charges with spears against the savage enemies, the Zulus.
Like, and then he ends his life with... You know, he may have been dead by the time people landed on the moon, but it was close.
It was close, right?
So, you take this old-world style of thinking, and you talk about World War I and the completely unnecessary Development of that war spurred on primarily by Britain and with with Winston Churchill at the head Then you have the crushing punishment against Germany with the Treaty of Versailles and again the founder of the CIA Dulles was the person he went to the negotiations of the Treaty of Versailles and his Input his you know
contribution to that treaty was the guilt clause.
It said the German people were 100% in charge, you know, responsible for the war and they had to pay it, which saddled them with unsustainable debt, crushed their industry and, you know, prosperity to the point that, you know, paved the way for somebody like Hitler to come along and just promise to undo that.
And the German people ushered him into power.
And that was only possible because of the starvation blockade that Churchill was leveling on Germany, which inspired Hitler to think that Germany needed Lebensraum, you know, living space.
Because he saw that places like Britain, with all of their overseas colonies, they couldn't really be boxed in and starved.
But Germany could be, because it didn't have overseas colonies, it didn't have, you know, Resources they could tap into in the way that Britain could and they wanted that for themselves And it was the starvation blockade that You know Germany surrendered entered in to go into negotiations Thinking they would get a fair shake thinking that by surrendering the blockade would be lifted and they would negotiate a fair settlement but instead the blockade remained the Germans disarmed while the Allies didn't this is all following World War one I remind you and
And all of that led the way and paved the way for World War II, in which again, you had Winston Churchill doing things that would come back to bite him in the butt, like bombing industrial areas of Germany and entire cities, which then led to the Battle of Britain and the bombing by the Luftwaffe.
of England day in and day out.
And again, it's not even like there's anything particular, like to me, looking back, I just see cynical,
warmongering politicians on all sides, America included.
America has a huge role to play in not just the buildup and devastation of World War I, but of World War II as well.
And that we didn't just, you know, fund and arm, the British war effort, which saddled them with debts
that were unsustainable and led to the eradication, essentially, of the British empire to pay us back.
you But we essentially built the Soviet Union from the ground up.
We supplied them not just with all the weapons they needed to fight the Nazis, but all the factories and railroads they needed to be a industrial nation in the first place.
I mean, you look at the past hundred years, By almost any metric, the communists are by far and away the most evil force on the planet.
Hundreds of millions dead, starvation, massacres.
I mean, it is relentless, but we're on their side.
If you want to talk about a chief villain, I might go with Stalin on this one.
Why don't Churchill and Hitler share blame?
War is evil.
Is this complicated?
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Second Hour of American Journal is on.
I'm going to be joined by Jennifer Hicks this hour.
She's speaking on behalf of Jeremy Brown, a decorated Special Forces veteran who attended January 6th and just prior to that had been approached by the FBI and asked to, uh...
Serve undercover for them inside the Oath Keepers for some uncertain, unstated reason.
He filmed their offer and released it and drew their ire and is now, for the last several years, been sitting behind bars, refusing to take a plea deal, refusing to plead guilty, and he will have his day in court very soon.
Here's a Reese report on the topic.
You can find and share this at Infowars.com and Band.video.
greg reese
In December of 2020, federal agents knocked on military veteran Jeremy Brown's door and
asked him to be a paid informant for the government.
They asked him to infiltrate some groups involving a January event.
Mr. Brown recorded this conversation, went public with it, and the feds have been after him ever since.
After an illegal search of his home three years ago, the same federal agents who Jeremy exposed on video allegedly found unregistered explosive grenades and national defense documents.
As a result, Jeremy Brown was sentenced to federal prison.
While there, he filed for an appeal.
Which included evidence proving that federal agents planted the unregistered explosive grenades and national defense documents during their search.
Last January, he went public with this information.
The grenades were tested for DNA, and the FBI's own experts found two male specimen DNAs on the grenades, none of which were from Jeremy Brown.
They found a dog hair underneath one of the grenades.
Mr. Brown has two dogs, so the FBI got a search warrant, took over 50 samples from his dogs, and determined that the hair on the grenade was not from his dogs.
They found a carpet fiber on the tape around one of the grenades, so they get another search warrant, cut out pieces of Jeremy's carpet, and compare the fibers to the one that was found with the grenade.
And they determine it was not a match.
Criminal counts 6, 7, 8, and 9 were allegedly found on a compact disc that they claim Mr. Brown carried with him through the deserts of Kuwait and Afghanistan for 17 years.
And yet, there isn't a scratch or a hint of discoloration on it.
His appeal was granted, but Jeremy has been kept from his lawyer, and the crooked U.S.
justice system hopes to silence him in the D.C.
Gulag.
His trial is tomorrow morning at 9.30 a.m.
in Washington, D.C.
Go there if you can, and support Jeremy Brown as he exposes the truth about January 6th.
unidentified
What I'm going to do is I'm going to testify to the truth and the reality of January 6th and my involvement not only with the Oath Keepers but also my involvement with the federal government as they attempted to recruit me prior to the January 6th event unbeknownst to me at the time but of course it became very clear after the events of January 6th what had happened.
They know this.
They know that I have a recording of this and they do not want my story to get out there.
And I've made it very widely known that I'm utilizing this opportunity to get on the stand in a misdemeanor trial to, you know, to make the truth known to the American people on the record under oath.
All right.
So the government is doing everything that they possibly can to prevent me from doing that.
And their main Their main thing is to interrupt my ability to prepare for trial, to move me into a controlled environment known as the D.C.
Gulag, or what's also known as the D.C.
Federal Jail.
greg reese
Support Jeremy Brown in Washington, D.C., tomorrow, September 4th, at 9.30 a.m.
Reporting for InfoWars, this is Greg Reese.
harrison smith
That is, of course, today.
It is September 4th, and Jeremy Brown will be Speaking for himself for the first time in years, he will be allowed to actually defend himself.
But you can share that link at Band.Video.
Jeremy Brown exposes the feds in D.C.
unidentified
court.
harrison smith
Back in today, we'll speak to somebody speaking on his behalf on the other side.
Who is JeremyBrown.com?
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
This is the American Journal.
I'm your host, Harrison Smith.
And fullwords.com, Band.Video.
A very important segment we have here with my guest, Jennifer Hicks.
Jennifer Hicks is speaking on behalf of Jeremy Brown, a decorated Special Forces veteran who attended the January 6th protest and is now on trial for fictitious crimes after he exposed the FBI's plot to frame and round up other January 6th political prisoners.
You can find their website at whoisjeremybrown.com.
You can also go to givesindgo.com slash jeremybrowndefense.
Jennifer, thank you so much for joining us today.
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
harrison smith
Well, I don't want to say it's my pleasure to have you, but I'm honored to be an outlet and a voice for Mr. Brown, Jeremy Brown.
It still is shocking and frightening to me that friends of mine are sitting in jail as political prisoners Uh, just completely abused by their own government.
Can you tell us what, what is happening today, uh, with, with Jeremy and, um, and what can people be looking out for, um, today?
unidentified
Well, I do know that there were some, um, can you hear me okay?
There's a long delay.
harrison smith
I do hear you.
unidentified
Yeah.
harrison smith
There's a, there's a little bit of an echo, but I hear you fine.
unidentified
Okay.
So, Jeremy was expected to defend himself.
And there has been a delay in his trial.
There has, okay.
Yeah, there was a problem with his attorney acting as his intermediary.
Jennifer, let me let me just pause you right there.
harrison smith
I'm sorry.
We're having a little bit of trouble connecting with you.
You're fading in and out.
So we're going to my producer is going to reconnect with you on a different phone line.
But I think I heard there's that there's been a delay in that his chance to speak in front of the federal court.
May not be happening today, but again, we'll reconnect with Jennifer Hicks on the other side.
Go to whoisjeremybrown.com to learn his story.
And again, you can donate to his defense by going to givesendgo.com slash Jeremy Brown defense.
And I can just tell you in case you're not familiar with this story, Jeremy Brown was an outspoken patriot.
You know, an active Member of, uh, well, I don't know if I want to say he was an active member.
I don't even think he was an active member of the Oath Keepers.
I think he just was associated with them a little bit.
He's a former Green Beret, which is like the best of the best in terms of special forces.
And if you've ever read anything about the training that they go through or the You know, the weeding out process that they have to survive to become a Green Beret, you know, the person you're dealing with is not your average human being.
You do not become a Green Beret.
You certainly don't survive multiple deployments as a Green Beret without being exceptional mentally, physically, and spiritually.
And the FBI approached him before January 6th.
And wanted him to act as an operative of theirs and to infiltrate the Oath Keepers for some nefarious purpose.
Jeremy Brown caught this on tape, their approach and pitch to him and he released it.
He released the video and he came here on InfoWars and we interviewed him and talked to him about it.
Again, he was very open about his beliefs, much in the same way Stuart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers was.
U.S.
government has now held Jeremy Brown in prison for 1,000 days for leaking video of FBI trying to recruit him for January 6th.
And in my interpretation, it's very clearly as retribution for that.
He did not do anything wrong.
He's not, you know, charged with attacking police or anything of the sort.
But he was in D.C.
on January 6th, so that's been enough for them to uses a launching pad to go after him in a variety of different ways.
So I believe we have Miss Hicks back now.
Jennifer, can you hear me?
unidentified
I can.
Yes, this is much better, I think.
harrison smith
Yes, yes, much, much better.
Okay, so I'm sorry, if you could just start over.
You were saying that there's a delay.
So will he be able to speak in front of the federal court today?
Or will that be moved to a different day?
unidentified
I believe they're continuing on Monday, is what I've been told.
And so, yes.
And this is due to a health condition that suddenly arose.
I believe his attorney, who was acting as intermediary between him and the court, had gone to the hospital.
And I'm not really sure of the circumstances of that, but it's in the, it's in the motion that was filed is that she had an aggravated heart condition, which was known.
And actually this was something that, um, you, you would talk about the, uh, the things that he is being charged with.
It's two misdemeanors.
That's, that's it.
Two misdemeanors.
And so he was serving a sentence in Citrus County, Florida that was stemming from, um, charges resulting from, The five and a half hour raid of his home, which took place on September 30th, 2021.
And it was at that time that grenades were found on his property in the exact same way that a pipe bomb was found on January 6th.
harrison smith
Right.
unidentified
So it was put there and then found.
And Jeremy Brown says he's never seen these grenades.
They're not his grenades.
Forensic analysis of the grenades, as was in the video that you were playing before.
The forensic analysis shows DNA of two males on these grenades.
The pet hair, the carpet fibers, none of these are a match to Jeremy Brown, his pets, or any of the fibers from his home or his RV that were searched.
So, um, what, what has, you know, been interesting is that we do have grenades that the government says were found on his property.
We also have a pipe bomber who is unidentified, we're told.
You know, from January 6th.
So you kind of have to wonder why it is that they're not asking some of the questions that you would think would be reasonable to ask.
If you're searching for a pipe bomber and you're saying that Jeremy Brown is, you know, too dangerous to have been granted bond, you know, he was denied bond from the moment that he was arrested on September 30th.
He has been behind bars ever since.
And, um, I want to say that that is 1,070 days today, I think.
And so I have a sign behind me actually that was on his door.
It was posted on his door.
And if you go to whoisjeremybrown.com, you can read the rest of that sign.
And I'm sitting in front of it because it's got some words there that maybe, you know, the TFY.
But here's the thing, is that this message was used to detain him and deny him bond.
They used this to say that you're threatening the government, that you are a threat because of this sign right here.
It's actually part of the legal documents in his docket.
And this is something that I want people to understand, is that there is no one anywhere who would have ever seen this message unless they came to the front door of Jeremy Brown's home.
You understand?
This is the kind of suppression of our speech and expression that is taking place.
And I would encourage everyone to put a sign like this on their front door, you know, because this is, this is your, the door of your home.
If you go to whoisjeremybrown.com, I posted an article today that includes the,
you can read that sign that was there, and you can also listen to the audio recording
of the conversation that Jeremy recorded of the two federal, the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force
agents who came to his home, and they did this under the guise
of saying that we're just here to clear your name of things that you had posted on social media.
Now that alone, so you don't have to have the background that Jeremy Brown has as a 20 year Special Forces
Master Sergeant, you know, former Green Beret.
You don't have to have that kind of background to relate to the censorship and the suppression of speech
that's taking place by our US government.
So that, you know, in the recording, you'll hear Jeremy say,
what would bring two federal agents to your door, you know, over something that you posted on social media.
And, and that's a fear that all of us should have is that, you know, we have government right now that believes that it's okay to send two federal agents to your door to clear your name.
I mean, that is actually what they say in this audio recording, which means that they've made a judgment of you before they even arrived to your door.
harrison smith
Right.
And we've seen the way that they're trying to portray things like the Episcopalian flag as Nazi, white supremacist, you know, the Gadsden flag that we're seeing in some of the videos here or the, you know, appeal to heaven flag, just a classic Americanos, George Washington's flag.
And yet they're saying that makes you a terrorist now.
And we've seen videos of Of average citizens, clearly Jeremy Brown is an above average citizen as a Green Beret.
You don't become that without being spectacular in a lot of different ways.
But we've seen people in Oklahoma, just mothers posting things on Facebook.
Suddenly the FBI is knocking on their door.
It's a very disturbing trend.
If you could bring up the sign again, I would like to read it.
It's a very good sign.
It's a very appropriate sentiment to be expressing to the likes of the FBI and the DOJ.
And again, it's very similar to what Stuart Rhodes first wrote when he said, you know, 10 orders you are not allowed to follow as a member of the military.
He says, Dear FBI, DHS, USMS, reread your oath.
You are being used as a pawn by the enemies of this republic and your liberties.
Reread your oath.
And he's imploring people to read and stick by their oath.
And this has been used as a excuse to throw him in prison.
It says, if you don't care and say to yourself, I'm just following orders, then go jump in a lake, I'll say.
I'll edit that a little bit.
So this sign is actually used to prove that he's a threat by telling American law enforcement, re-read your oath and do not follow illegal orders.
Despite the fact that, and you know, World War II is a big topic today.
I mean, since World War II, we've known and heard over and over, I was just following orders is not an excuse for committing a crime.
Just brutal treatment of Jeremy Brown.
And I'm shocked.
So many people I talked to, but Jeremy Brown, especially.
How they're not beaten down, how they're not despondent over the fact that they've been in prison.
And in fact, they're almost reinvigorated.
Every time I talk to these guys, they're like, no, this is proof that I'm right about everything.
The way they're treating me means I'm right and I have to keep going.
Does he still have that attitude?
I mean, how do you maintain such a righteous attitude for a thousand plus days unfairly in prison by your own government?
Is he still able to maintain that?
That, um, you know, mental strength in the face of this oppression?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, um, it's, it's not easy to be clear.
It is not easy.
Um, and, and the conditions that he has described that he is in now in the DC Gulag are filthy.
He said that it's like a dungeon.
I know that, um, when he tried to have a video conference, uh, meeting with his girlfriend, Um, you know, there was pepper spray near him because there was an altercation.
So he had to choke, you know, and cough his way through the visit that he had with his girlfriend via video conference because you had, she had to go actually physically to the jail to have a video conference, um, a visitation that way.
And so, you know, I want to say, yes, I mean, the fight is not given up.
That's still there.
But to be clear, the conditions that these American heroes, you know, who have served our country honorably are being put through is, I mean, it is a mustering of strength and, you know, a testament to their strength that they have, that they're holding up under this.
Yeah.
I mean, we do it because it's, it's the truth.
And this is why I would encourage people.
And this is why I actually posted this today on the website.
There's who is Jeremy Brown.
I have posted this sign, which you can go and read.
And, um, and I want people to not be afraid of this.
This is what they want is for us to be silenced.
And this is, this is why they want you to look at Jeremy Brown and say, this is what we do to Jeremy Brown.
the Special Forces Master Sergeant who dared to tell you the truth when Christopher Wray said in
March of 2021 that the FBI was not involved on January 6th.
Well, that is what prompted Jeremy Brown to release the recording that he had. And I'll
also say that, you know, September 29th, 2021 was actually a day when two FBI whistleblowers were
targeted for saying the same thing.
And perhaps it's just coincidental.
But it was only a few months ago that Marcus Allen was talking about getting his security clearance back.
He's a former FBI agent.
So he worked within the Department of the FBI, and he was sending out emails, I think within the agency, Of reporting from Darren Beatty of Revolver News.
And, and, and he was saying the same thing that, um, that Jeremy Brownwood said is that, you know, Christopher Wray, uh, maybe, maybe the people in our country are not being told the truth, right?
Um, that there was evidence that, that, um, that there were other narratives that weren't being pursued or looked at that, um, were reflective of, of what actually happened that day.
Absolutely.
And, and when, and when this FBI, he's a former FBI agent now, But they pulled his security clearance.
They called him disloyal to the United States.
And he was deprived of his pay for, I want to say, 27 or 28 months.
I don't recall.
He has since had his security clearance reinstated.
He's since been given his back pay.
But it was for saying the same thing, you know, basically that we're not being told the truth about January 6.
We have congressmen who tell us that they have proof.
that FBI agents were involved in January 6th.
So, you know, we should not be at the point that we are at right now with all that is known factually about the events of that day.
And so, and I will go back to that pipe bomb too.
So if we have a pipe bomber out there that they don't have the identity known, we have two sets of mail, you know, mail DNA, not fingerprints, but it's DNA.
On these grenades that were supposedly found on the property of Jeremy Brown, maybe someone should start looking at whose fingerprints are on those grenades, right?
Maybe that's where you get back to, you know, because these are instances in where there are setups there, you know.
They're choreographed instances where evidence is planted to be found for the purpose of creating a narrative
that our government wants to have out there instead of the truth.
harrison smith
Right, well, when the person that you want to imprison hasn't done anything wrong,
you gotta come up with a different reason.
And it's heroism on the part of these guys and Jeremy Brown especially to not give in
and to know that they're in the right and that even if that means that our corrupt
and fallen system is gonna punish them for it, they refused to give in and.
I can only imagine how difficult it is to be told, you know, hey, just admit you did wrong, just plead guilty, and you'll only spend this long, but if you go against us, we're going to lock you in jail for the rest of your life.
And yet, you know, he goes, Look, I didn't do anything wrong.
So I cannot plead guilty.
I'm not guilty.
So I will not plead guilty.
And he has maintained that and he suffered for it.
So what so it was supposed to be today, you know, unfortunately, and luckily, it's not it's not his health emergency was a health emergency with his lawyer.
So he's He's as healthy as you can be, you know, living in a dank dungeon that the federal government locks you in for a thousand days.
But what was supposed to happen today and what's going to happen on Monday?
What is the purpose of this hearing and what's the, you know, potential outcomes of it?
unidentified
Yeah, the purpose of the trial that was set for September 4th was To address the two misdemeanor charges.
And so what's really significant here is that if you go and look at the article that I have posted on who is Jeremy Brown, you'll see quotes from an attorney who is assisting with Jeremy's case and also from a cop who said a man who served as a law enforcement officer for 26 years.
And they said, this is this is unprecedented kind of stuff that's happening in our country right now.
And Jeremy Brown is an example of the weaponization of our government and the weaponization of our judicial system, that they extradited him from Florida to Washington, D.C.
over two misdemeanors.
And so it was Judge Mehta who denied Jeremy's right to elect to, per Rule 43b2 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, He because these were two misdemeanor charges, punishable by one year or less.
As the defendant, Jeremy Brown, had the right to elect to not appear at all for Rule 43 B-2 or to attend his hearing by Zoom.
And that is what he requested was to have a trial by Zoom.
And the government's response to that was, no, we need you here so that your demeanor can be assessed.
So government resources, you know, all of this flies in the face of judicial economy, which our government will allude to when it's to their benefit.
You know, when, when they don't want things to, to play out a certain way, then they'll cite judicial economy that, you know, we can't do that because of the costs of it.
But when the cost comes to you, um, you know, the American citizen who's being targeted and, and the taxpayers who have to pay for this circus and this theater, they don't care.
So, um, Judge Mehta denied His, his, his right to elect to not appear and said, no, you have to come.
And, and here's what's the real kicker here is that there is, this is not a jury trial.
This is a bench trial.
So the only reason he was taken from where he was being held at the Citrus County detention facility to Washington, DC at the cost of, you know, government resources.
And also at the cost of putting his life in peril, you know?
I mean, because now they have him in conditions that are far worse than what he was in.
This was all done for the purpose so that Jeremy Brown could stand face-to-face in front of Judge Mehta when this case is made.
You know, that this couldn't possibly have been done by him.
And to the point of, you know, what actually happened last night when this motion was filed that resulted in the delay of this trial.
When Judge Mehta denied and said, no, you have to come to Washington, D.C.
and stand right in front of me so that we can assess your demeanor when you make your case, the health of his attorney was actually, you know, they listed this as a reason for why he shouldn't be moved at all, that he would be separated from his attorney and not have access to her at the time.
This was before he had decided to represent himself.
But also, um, but her health, I mean, she had health issues that had been, they had granted delays in the past for different things related to her known health conditions.
harrison smith
And so, you know, It's just whatever angle they can screw over patriots, they do.
And of course, Judge Mehta is the same judge that sentenced Stuart Rhodes to 18 years for an unspoken conspiracy.
I guess he somehow telepathically got people to do something and all of that case was predicated
on false testimony that's now been disproven by video evidence and yet they remain in
prison.
It is unimaginable and brutal what's being done to these people.
I mean it violates so many aspects of our constitution including cruel and unusual punishment
or letting the punishment fit the crime.
It also just doesn't make sense on the face of it that they're claiming he was a part
of some insurrection against the United States and then they claim he has grenades but he
didn't use the grenades during the insurrection.
He left those at home and they only found nine months.
I mean just none of it makes any sense.
It's all convoluted and when you get right down to it they're punishing him for his free
speech activity.
They're punishing him almost like spiking the cannon because they know that he is somebody
that's highly trained and if he actually wanted to go against the government he could be very
effective in that.
The proof that he never wanted to do that is he never did and he never wanted to and
he went on our show and he's been on many shows where he always expresses the same patriotic
ideals that made him a powerful soldier in the field and a powerful patriot at home.
Whoisjeremybrown.com.
You got to go to whoisjeremybrown.com because if you search it on Google, it will not show up.
Not to anyone's surprise.
And go to gibsongo.com slash jeremybrowndefense.
Thank you so much for being here with us, Jennifer Hicks, and we await the outcome.
unidentified
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
harrison smith
We're going to take your calls for the second half of the show.
We're going to cover a lot of other news happening around the world here in America.
Savannah Hernandez did the thing that you're supposed to do.
As a reporter, she went to Aurora and found out what's going on there instead of just speculating about it from afar.
So we'll show you some of those videos.
But I do want to take her calls and I imagine most If Twitter discussion is anything to go by, it'll be about
the Martyr Made podcast and the historical validity of the Holocaust, etc.
So we'll take your calls on that.
Any and all viewpoints welcome.
Give us a call at 1-877-789-2539.
And we'll use those calls and we'll gather those up.
And as they come in, we'll use those to guide our conversation about that topic into the future.
Of course, it does pervade everything, doesn't it?
Hard to get away from the influence of the Second World War on the current political milieu, including the fact that our border has to be open because the Holocaust happened, apparently.
Apparently that's the argument that's made.
Okay.
I guess.
And again, it's funny because like I said this on Twitter, people are being like, you're anti-Semitic.
And it's like, I'm just quoting Jews here.
I'm just telling you what they say and pointing out a little bit nonsensical.
It's a little bit, uh, Dishonest When they do this, but hey apparently we have to have open borders because Alejandro Mayorkas says He had grandparents had almost died in the Holocaust.
So So you don't get to have national sovereignty anymore.
It doesn't make any sense.
Trust me It doesn't but that's where we are and we're feeling it the effects We're feeling the effects.
Let's go to clip number 14 here.
This is Savannah Hernandez in Aurora at the apartment complex, where Trin de Aragua have taken over and are terrorizing the locals.
Let's go to clip number 14 now.
unidentified
All right, y'all, so we are outside of that apartment complex that has been in the news all week for allegedly being overrun by Tren de Agua.
Now, the East Colfax Community Collective, which is a communist-aligned group, was saying that actually this area is completely safe, that there's no gang members.
This, of course, comes after the city is calling to evict people out of this building and shut it down because of the violence.
Now, the migrants are saying the area is safe, that there's no gang members at all, the communist group saying the exact same thing, but we're surveilling the area and as you guys can see, the actual building has bullet holes.
Okay, this bullet hole actually goes all the way through to the other side.
We were able to tour the area.
There's multiple broken windows as well, so it seems like the building is telling a different story and we are going to try to talk to residents in the area because I have seen differing narratives surrounding this specific apartment complex and Tren de Aragua.
harrison smith
I love it.
It's like, well, the communist group says that the violence is a lie, but as you see here, there's bullet holes riddling the wall where there has clearly been violence.
Don't you hate it when the physical evidence of your eyes contradicts the lies you're being told by the, well, both the communist foot soldiers protesting law and order and the government authorities agreeing with them.
It's all a lot of nonsense, but good on Savannah for actually going there and finding out for herself what's going on.
We can go to clip number 16 as B-roll.
This is a look inside the migrant hotel in Aurora, Colorado that has allegedly been overrun by Tren de Aragua.
And yeah, it's filthy.
It certainly is filthy.
Newsweek has this story.
Colorado paper hits back at Venezuela gang claims, quote, enough.
An op-ed in a Colorado newspaper hit back at what it called Venezuelan gang hysteria perpetrated by dodgy politicians.
Foreign President Donald Trump and local politicians, including Aurora Mayor Mike Kaufman, recently said that apartment buildings in the city of Aurora had been taken over by migrants.
Last Thursday, a video reportedly showing armed members of the Venezuelan gang inside an apartment complex circulated on social media.
The clip shows a group armed with rifles and hand signs inside The Edge at Lowry Apartments in Aurora.
Fox 31 in Denver reported it was captured shortly before a shooting in that complex that left one person seriously injured, the owner of the video said.
Multiple politicians have since called out Venezuelan gang activity, which the newspaper The Sentinel called a grisly attempt at terrorizing Aurora residents in hopes of swaying voters back to back anti-immigrant candidates and causes, which is...
What we constantly describe, I mean this is again just a rehash of this cyclical strategy of the media to cause a problem and then say that anybody trying to solve that problem is just taking advantage of people.
They're just taking advantage and trying to cause fear and anti-immigrant sentiment as if this isn't happening.
But it is happening.
And the anti-immigrant sentiment that comes with your neighborhood being overrun by foreign gangs is a natural consequence of the situation that you've created.
This is not that complicated at all.
It's actually very, very simple.
But don't worry.
The mainstream media is here to tell you that it's all imaginary.
Pay no heed.
And anybody attempting to solve the problems they're creating are actually just bad actors that baselessly hate immigrants for no reason and want you to, too.
And that's why they're reporting on the thing that's happening.
I guess that's the argument they're making.
They actually say, don't buy it, Aurora.
It's a demented and dangerous deception that's only meant to invoke fear and turn voters towards a failed political clan of liars, cheaters, and election deniers practically driven from the entire state.
Which is incredible.
Which is absolutely incredible, considering that, again, the people saying this are the people on the ground actually affected by this.
It's a city councilor from Aurora, Colorado.
It's the mayor of that city.
It's the people that own the apartment buildings and the people that live around the apartment buildings.
They're the ones saying this.
But to believe Newsweek, to believe the mainstream media, apparently none of this is happening.
They're letting in tens of millions of migrants, but every single one of them is an upstanding, law-abiding American citizen, apparently.
There's no gangs even though there obviously are and even though there's news report after news
report even though the authorities actually in charge of this are issuing bulletins warning
that Trinidad and Orogua are issuing you know green lights to kill police and so many other things it's
I mean like treason maybe?
Is it treason?
Is it sedition?
It's worse than just like not telling the truth.
They're gaslighting Americans to a degree that is evil and should be illegal if it isn't already.
Because this is clearly happening.
It's on video.
The people there are documenting it and explaining what it's like.
To be there and to feel this.
And then they're being told, just like when you have Don Lemon telling the person he's interviewing in a man on the street interview, and the guy says, I'm making a lot less now than I was when Trump was president.
And Don Lemon says, you might think that, but that's not true.
It's like, who the hell do you think you are?
These people think they can tell you what your life experience is.
And they think that you actually just expressing your own personal observation, you're actually the victim of propaganda by people that just, they just hate immigrants for no reason, right?
It's not that immigrants actually commit crimes, not that anything bad actually comes about from it.
It's just, they just hate immigrants.
And so they're lying about all of this and just making up a story about Venezuelan gangs.
rating and apartment building.
It's this claim is absurd.
This claim is is beyond absurd.
unidentified
It's a it's evil.
harrison smith
It's just evil.
Not really all that complicated.
We're going to show you some more videos on the other side.
Because obviously it's not just Colorado.
I mean, we covered the story yesterday 75% of the arrests in midtown New York City.
Migrants.
75% of the arrests are migrants.
And now the migrants have the U.S.
military protecting their colonies inside the United States.
open treason on our shores.
unidentified
Welcome back.
harrison smith
Welcome back.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the American Journal.
I got another shocking video to show you about the invasion Going on and I can't get away from the Holocaust.
I just can't.
Because we've got this headline from Bloomberg, I think, right?
U.S.
immigration court system falls to politics, failing asylum seekers.
What is an asylum seeker?
What does that even mean?
What does that mean?
What does that designation entail?
And why does this magic word mean that you don't have to follow American laws anymore?
Well, of course, this came about during World War II, in which the stringent requirements for immigration into America were relaxed and lessened, and in some cases outright ignored, because of the emergency situation on the continent of Europe.
In other words, it was the, it was like, well, the Nazis are rounding up all the Jews and we want to bring them in here.
But if we make them go through the immigration process, like they'll be excluded, they'll be kept out and they'll be killed.
So we, you know, we got to just temporarily for the time being, we're just gonna, gonna give them a pass.
All right.
And maybe we'll, Once this disaster is over, once the emergency situation is finished, then we'll get back to just immigration as normal.
But for now, it's like we just don't have time.
We just don't have time.
Millions of lives at stake.
We can't be going through the, you know, we can't be killing people for bureaucracy's sake, right?
Somehow, somehow over the last 60 years, that has morphed, transmogrified, 80 years I guess at this point, into being just a thing that you can say to become a citizen of the United States.
It just means that if you're a Guatemalan person that's scared of your boyfriend, you're an asylum seeker now.
You're a refugee.
It makes no sense.
We have to end the asylum program.
The asylum program has to end completely.
It should not exist.
It should not exist.
If, if in the future, there's another, you know, if the fourth Reich rises up, If there's another situation in which a totalitarian government is systematically eliminating a group of people based on their ethnic or religious or racial identity, then sure, maybe asylum can come back.
Until then, no asylum.
It should not exist.
It doesn't make any sense.
It's not applicable to any of the people that have crossed our border in the last 80 years.
It certainly doesn't account for, you know, apply to people who are going to Ireland from Algeria.
That doesn't make any sense.
The whole point of it was that, yeah, you could, you could get around some of the immigration restrictions, but only for very specific purposes and, and you know, situations.
In other words, you're not allowed to just cross like 10 different Peaceful countries to get to the one that has the most welfare and say, I'm claiming asylum here.
Asylum has to end.
It has to end.
We can't have it anymore.
Because you got people like this that are just like, oh, the politicals, the politics is destroying the US asylum system.
The asylum system isn't applicable here.
It should not exist.
Should not have existed for the last 60 80 years and you know, maybe Cuba, right?
Maybe if you are escaping communism on a raft through shark infested waters Yeah, okay.
All right.
We're not gonna send you back to Those people But now you've got tens of millions people wandering across Mexican desert after being dropped off by China from China And they're just like, yeah, you know, I just, I, I want to come to America.
I mean, we had, there's video.
The one that always sticks out to me is the kid from Morocco is like a 20 year old.
Who's like, Oh, I'm a live streamer from Morocco.
It costs me $5,000 to get here.
And I'm claiming asylum.
Okay.
If you're in a, if you're a live streamer as a profession, if you play video games as your career, you don't get to claim asylum.
I mean, this is absurd.
This was ridiculous.
But not only do these people, you know, want the asylum system to apply to literally everybody, they're mad that it's not being applied more to more people.
Absurd.
Ridiculous.
Treasonous.
Openly treasonous.
U.S.
Army allegedly caught protecting foreign invaders at New York City Hotel.
Citizen confronts military presence and demand answers.
And of course gets the cold shoulder from the NPCs who act like they are deaf and blind to this man.
So we'll go to this video now.
This is in New York City.
Where is it?
I just saw it.
Clip number four, this is crowdsource the truth on Twitter at JGCSTT.
Here he is at the Hotel Wolcott, where the military is there to protect the invaders, I guess.
Let's watch.
unidentified
Now what's this?
Ah, look at this.
We've got a Wolcott Hotel vehicle of some kind.
It says employee parking permit.
So they're moving people.
Ah, here's the Army again.
So what is the Army doing here, gentlemen?
What is the U.S.
Army doing at this hotel, gentlemen?
Can you tell me?
harrison smith
Chairman in fatigue, standing on the sidewalk.
unidentified
Mr. Rodriguez, can you tell me what the Army is doing here?
Why don't you guys tell me what the Army is doing here?
harrison smith
You guys can talk to my chain of command.
unidentified
Who?
My chain of command.
Who's the commanding officer in this hotel?
Excuse me, Marine?
I demand to speak to your commanding officer.
Why are you walking away from me?
You are in violation of the law, sir.
You're in violation of the United States Constitution and the Posse Comitatus Act.
Who is the commanding officer at this facility?
I demand that you tell me.
Who is the commanding officer at this facility?
I demand to know!
Who is in charge?
Who is the military person in charge here?
Who is the military?
Call the cops.
Call them now.
Who is the military person in charge?
Who is the military person in charge of this facility?
Get them here now.
Don't tell me bye.
Don't tell me.
Call the cops.
All right.
Call the cops.
Get them here right now.
I want to know who is in charge.
What's your name?
Yeah.
What's your name, kiddo?
Flip that around.
Flip that tag around.
Neighborhood Association for Intercultural Affairs.
You're breaking the law, bro.
Okay.
you.
So now we got some more information about what's going on over there.
You live in that hotel?
Este hotel está para tú?
See, it is.
Uh-huh, he lives in there.
That guy lives there.
Okay.
So now, we've got the military protecting foreign invaders.
Three out of four arrests by the NYPD are being made by these people.
So we've got individual members of the United States military facilitating and participating in an invasion.
And that guy calls the cops on me.
Pretty messed up.
harrison smith
Powerful stuff.
Story of Gateway Pundit, U.S.
Army allegedly caught protecting foreign invaders in New York City hotel.
Last week, citizen journalist Jason Goodman, founder of Crowdsource The Truth, captured footage revealing a U.S.
Army presence at the Wolcott Hotel in New York City, which has been controversially converted into a mega shelter for migrants, again costing the American people, specifically the New Yorkers, billions of dollars to house literal colonies of foreigners on their own land, now protected by the United States military.
Wolcott Hotel, a historic establishment on West 31st Street, closed its doors to regular guests in 2023 due to the ongoing migrant crisis and concerns related to COVID-19.
Delta variant.
Uh-huh, sure.
unidentified
Yeah, it's the Delta variant.
We gotta shut down and fill it up with migrants.
harrison smith
Ridiculous.
In footage captured by Goodman, he can be heard confronting the soldiers, questioning, is your army turning this thing into a migrant shelter?
Why are you guys here?
The tension escalated when one soldier bluntly responded, we're here at the request of the state of New York.
Goodman returned to the Wolcott only to find the military personnel had vacated the premises, but then upon his return we saw this video.
More military personnel stationed there once again.
He confronted the soldiers, identified as Rodriguez, demanding to know who their commanding officer was.
They of course ignore him and walk away.
And Goodman cites the Posse Comitatus Act, accusing the military of violating the law by participating in what he perceived as civilian law enforcement activities.
The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies unless expressly authorized by Congress or the Constitution.
While National Guard members reporting to their state governors are generally exempt, Goodman's concerns centered on whether this deployment crossed legal boundaries.
And here's the kicker.
The COO of the company housing the migrants had previously pled guilty to embezzling and looks to be a criminal himself.
So criminal enterprise all around.
Every one of these people needs to be arrested.
Welcome back, folks.
We're gonna go out to your phone calls this hour.
Still some lines open.
I expected to be flooded with calls today, since people want to talk about this topic anyway, now that it's the focus of the show.
I expected more, but hey, there's lines open.
Give us a call.
1-877-789-2539.
unidentified
1-877-789-2539.
harrison smith
Taking your calls live this Wednesday morning.
William in Arkansas has called in about January Sixers, including Jeremy Brown, who is jeremybrown.com.
His long-awaited chance to speak in front of the federal court has been delayed until Monday, but William in Arkansas, go ahead.
You're on the air.
william in arkansas
Oh, good morning, everybody.
Survival.
Survival of humanity, myself, you.
I don't want to get in trouble.
It's easy to get in trouble these days.
The same thing that's keeping the January 6thers locked up is the same reason that we have Venezuelan gangs taking over our nation.
It's because people are not standing up in the right way.
It's going to take sacrifice.
Rock of Golgotha, Calvary.
Uh, you know, that was sacrifice.
It was blood.
I'm sorry.
Um, if we think that 30 million people are just going to go back home because Trump says, well, we're going to round them up.
Uh, you know, good luck.
I mean, look at, you just showed a video of our own military possibly protecting, uh, absolute undescribable situation.
I'm blown away by it.
Um, the Hells Angels, the Bandidos, the Crips, the Bloods, uh, Latin Kings, the Mongols, These are the guys that have said, hey, I got a different brand of tobacco than you do, and kiss my ass.
These are the type of backbone that we need to go free the January Sixers and to stop this stuff by the Venezuelan gang.
You know, it's just unreal what has been happening the last, since World War II especially, the Dulles brothers and the Family Fortunes and all these Shell companies and front companies by people like this, these fortunes need to be absconded.
They need, the families need to be shut down.
Once again, I'll say it, you know, you want the two world order, but it's run by old world aristocracy and greed and corruption.
You're not going to blackmail me.
I don't care what I've done.
My sins, my lack of absolute perfect behavior in an imperfect world.
You want to know about the warts on my butt?
No problem.
You know, so you're not blackmailing me.
I will do my business right out in the middle of the football field where everybody can see true transparency.
You know, it's just absolutely unreal what's going on.
We talk about honor, faith, hope and integrity of character, which is the mantra of the Masonic Order.
I got nothing against them.
They've been infiltrated.
But show me some real honor and integrity coming out of the lodges these days.
They shouldn't have gone to football games and basketball games.
Look at the knuckleheads that we just saw in military uniform.
I'm infuriated right now, if you can't tell.
dr james lindsey
I can tell.
william in arkansas
You know?
I'm right there with you.
These young people, these young guys, these two or three soldiers, did they look like they were, you know, border agents?
Anchor babies?
I bet they spoke two languages.
You know?
I've been 23 years in the military.
These guys are trained not to speak to any kind of press.
And that's just the way they are.
You know, but my God, how much more do you need, America?
I've been a nurse almost 40 years.
The other day, we got a great big new shipment of some kind of vaccines in a refrigerator.
I saw yesterday.
I'm not giving them out.
I will quit this job.
I will raise 10 tons of hell just going around.
You know, my property is still open to you.
It's worth almost a couple hundred grand.
If I can offer half of what I've almost earned in life, which I'm cash poor, land rich, Right?
Why can't the rest of you that like InfoWars or even don't like me, why can't you help build a situation where all people that want open free press will have a free place to go?
We can put this in a trust fund and do something.
I'm pissed off my brain ain't working in a way that I can articulate this in a way it's going to be received.
But if I can offer so much, why can't the rest of you buy a few products or send in 5 or 10 or 20 bucks?
Why can't we come up with enough funds in the next two or three weeks with all the millions of listeners?
Because, William, if we had a million people like you, we wouldn't even be in this situation.
unidentified
I am forward to give it to the crew and Alex Jones for a dollar.
harrison smith
Because William, if we had a million people like you, we wouldn't even be in this situation.
That's the problem.
unidentified
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And we're again, and it is, it's very funny.
It's just very funny the way that we're portrayed versus How we actually are.
And then you compare your respectable dissident right-wing organizations and they're just like, you know, flipping their lid.
They're way more extreme than we are about like anything.
It's just, they're also wrong.
They're also wrong about the things that they say.
But especially when it comes to the hysterical overreaction to a very normal historical discussion about the Second World War.
People are just like, you are not allowed to question this person.
He is a hero.
And if you're not with us, you're against us.
And it's like, all right.
All right.
Well, actually it's, it's history and everybody gets to question all of it.
And if it's the truth, it'll stand up to scrutiny.
So what are you so worried about?
With that, we'll go out to your calls.
Let's go to Seminar Caller.
Seminar Caller in Texas.
Let's talk about the severity of the Holocaust.
Go ahead, Seminar, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, thanks for the call.
I sent you a video.
You can watch it later if you're interested.
It's a pastor, Steven Anderson, and he did a video about the Holocaust.
And basically, downplayed how many people actually died.
And he kind of makes a really good argument.
And he talks about basically, in a nutshell, they went to burn in the oven, each person in 15 minutes, this is mathematically impossible.
And so he questioned, I want to be very sensitive.
Hitler's awful.
I'm not like, I'm not Defending anyone, um, in what's happened, and there's all kinds of bad people involved.
But, um, basically, that is just it takes in modern, you know, in a modern crematorium, it takes three hours to cremate one person.
And it's just it would be mathematically impossible to cremate that many people in an oven back then.
I want to hear your thoughts about that.
harrison smith
We're If you could, if you could reframe it as a joke about Cookie Monster, I think I'd feel more comfortable now.
Uh, yeah, look, there's, there's, um, there's lots of questions about it.
And again, the weird thing is like, I'm not even sure what the official number is at this point.
Cause I know historically they've had to go back and revise it multiple times.
And like the plaque at Auschwitz originally said like 4 million people died here and then it was revised down.
And, and you know, now I don't even know what the official, Number is, which is odd, because if you question the official number, you're a Holocaust denier and you can't work in America anymore.
But the official number has changed over the course of history.
And also, the people we're relying on for the numbers were the Soviet Union and the communists.
So that's a little bit questionable as well.
And again, it's, to me, it's like, I guess it's a matter of degrees where it's like, oh no, the Nazis only, you know, they didn't gas people.
They just lined them up next to a ditch and shot them in the head.
So calm down.
It's like, okay, well, all right, well, you're still talking about massacring innocent people in an industrial scale.
I don't know how this is defensible.
Or even like, I don't know man, the whole atmosphere of the discussion around things like Nazism or Hitler just so convoluted and nonsensical in any way that you approach it.
So, I don't know.
I haven't done the math.
I haven't done the math personally, but I've seen all of the arguments and Frankly, it doesn't really impact how I view the situation all that much, to be honest with you.
Although I understand how it's different and people point to, as I did earlier in the show, the massively outsized and greater number of deaths from communism.
But I also understand why it's more chilling and disturbing and evil to have like a systematic elimination through murder than it is just like letting people starve because your bureaucracy is crap, right?
It's got a little bit of a different vibe to it.
It impacts you differently, the different methods that are used.
You know, the other thing is that When anybody tries to research this or question it or, you know, get evidence for an alternative theory, they're so brutally shut down.
It is really shocking.
There's a story of a guy, and I'm blanking on his name right now, but he is the foremost expert of gas chambers and executions in America.
He had no interest in the Holocaust, no interest whatsoever.
But during a trial it may have been it was either Ernst Zundel or David Irving called him as an expert witness and this guy who's just like a dude from the Midwest who is I think his father worked in a prison so he sort of grew up around prisons and his whole thing was just like Okay we need to execute people because that's the appropriate punishment for certain crimes but it doesn't need to be but it shouldn't be uncertain it shouldn't be like oh we had to electrocute him five times before he died like that's that's brutal that's unnecessary we should have you know execution systems that are flawless and painless and just they just do what's necessary and that was his whole thing um and and he basically provided expert testimony that the gas chambers in Auschwitz
Could not function as gas chambers there.
It was, you know, would have killed the people operating the gas chambers, right?
And gas chambers in America are just these giant like steel contraptions with big, you know, locking doors.
And he's just like, you know, he looked at the gas chambers in Auschwitz and his professional assessment was that, yeah, Leichter report.
And they destroyed this guy's life.
So, You know, it's one of those things where you just go, well, all right, he wasn't motivated by hate.
He, he didn't even, this wasn't even his thing.
He was asked by somebody, Hey, you're an expert.
Will you come testify about this?
And he's like, yeah, sure.
I'll, I'll do what I can for truth.
And, uh, gave his expert opinion and they destroyed his life over it.
And you see those types of tactics and you go, all right, well, why, why is some guy who has no interest politically Religiously, he's just providing his expert opinion, but you destroy his life over it?
That's not what, you know, people telling the truth do.
So I see why people would question that.
Again, I don't even know if his report was legitimate or not, but everything I've seen about it, He's just like, I don't care.
I just was trying to tell the truth.
I'm just an expert here.
But yeah, he never worked again after doing that.
So unfortunate, I guess, for him to participate in that lawsuit in Canada.
And there's lots of stories like that.
So, you know, people know it's dangerous to question this.
And it's funny that you asked that question, because if you remember, if you remember, this is how far this goes.
I've talked about this many times, but When we went to CPAC and Sebastian Gorka, you know, said InfoWars shouldn't be there and insulted us in all this variety of ways.
Remember that was predicated on the fact that we were friends with Nick Fuentes and Nick Fuentes one time read a super chat that basically asked the question you just asked seminar caller about the mathematical impossibility of, you know, 6 million cremations taking place.
But as Cookie Monster, And so it was like, this is the, this is the degrees of separation away you have to be to still like receive backlash to this.
So we didn't question anything.
We didn't, you know, say anything about this, but because we were associated with somebody who once read a super chat from somebody else that made a joke about the Holocaust, well, now we aren't allowed to be Republicans anymore, I guess.
And it's like, well, this, this is nonsense.
This is not the way you conduct conversation in a free society to get to the truth.
You don't shut people out for even merely being associated with somebody who once asked a question.
This is not a healthy environment for conversation.
And so of course you're going to drive people to the extremes, which is what we're against
because that's not American.
It's American to discuss these things and try to come to the truth while maintaining
a pretty solid foundation of genuine acceptance and love of all of humanity.
But that's just me.
Let's go to more calls now.
We've got Ryan in Oregon.
Go ahead, Ryan.
You are on the air.
On line number six.
Sorry, hold on.
Go ahead, Ryan.
Now you're on the air.
unidentified
You can hear me?
Okay, great.
I've been a longtime listener.
I appreciate what you do.
Being there every morning for us.
Helping us get our day started off right with updates and everything going on in the world.
And one of the things that you showed this morning was the video of the reporter in New York at the hotel, saw a military service member in a U.S.
Army uniform, and there was two military service members in that video.
And if you pay attention to the uniforms they're wearing, the U.S.
Army uniform could also be a National Guard member, okay?
But the other uniform that was worn with the rolled up sleeves, if you put that back on the screen so everybody can see, that's a U.S.
Marine Corps uniform.
They don't have a National Guard, so they're only funded federally.
So a National Guard service member could be on Title 32 orders, okay?
Title 32 orders are state-funded, so you're working for the governor.
Title 10 orders is you're working for the federal government.
The Marine Corps only works for the federal government, so they have to be on federal orders, which the Posse Comitatus Act, I believe is the name he referred, where the military cannot do police work.
harrison smith
Correct.
unidentified
That could very well be at play there, but I don't hear anybody talking about it.
I've seen this video all day yesterday and again this morning.
I don't see anybody talking about there's a Marine.
Why is there a Marine?
The cutting edge of our fighting force is in New York at a hotel doing what?
What is he doing?
harrison smith
Right?
No, it's it's he's definitely not staying there, right?
That's the other thing is that this hotel is not accepting guests.
It is only operating for migrant families.
So if these guys military uniform are there, they're there as part of an operation for the migrants.
They're not there as guests that that's impossible.
So yeah, what you're pointing out, and as we noted this in the article, it says, yes,
the National Guard can perform police functions under certain situations with the agreement
of the local government there.
The governor can call them out, but that doesn't apply to the Marines.
So you have a Marine there.
That is pretty much has to be a violation.
There's not any other explanation for that.
Yeah.
Thank you for for that point.
And again, it's troubling regardless, but it's illegal if they're, you know, doing this with anybody other than the National Guard.
And it's sort of, you know, it's it's sort of toe in the line, like not quite crossing it, but still not good if it is just the National Guard doing this in the first place.
But thank you for that call, Ryan.
Let's go now to We'll go to Jeremy in Michigan first.
Jeremy in Michigan, go ahead.
You've called in about the Holocaust.
unidentified
Yeah, Harrison, I really appreciate it.
You bring up so many subjects that are kind of taboo, and you do it on your show with a little bit more of a long form.
So I really appreciate that, because Alex is so rapid-fire, and then, of course, Owen gets spicy on his stuff, too.
But you tend to bring these up.
And I woke up this morning and, of course, kicked you guys out.
I listened all day.
I love the products.
bodies, nitro, nitroglycerine, brain force, turbo force, you gotta have those to play
hockey.
And I'm from Howell, Michigan, where Trump came and visited and it was all of that, you
know, hoopla about us being white supremacists, which we had one guy, a grand wizard, and
it was so stupid.
harrison smith
Four years ago, yeah.
unidentified
But the whole, yeah, exactly.
And I love Trump's response.
Like, who was here in 2021?
Oh, yeah, Biden.
Okay, thank you.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
But that's hilarious.
But I didn't know about this interview with Tucker and was it Daryl Cooper?
And it's this whole taboo that you can't touch the Holocaust.
You can't even approach it.
You know, the previous caller talked about, was there really six million?
Could they have the capacity to even do that amount of gassing and burning up the bodies and stuff?
And no matter what, it's this hype, and then when you take it and you attach it to one of these things like AOC attaching global warming or climate change to immigrants, and now they're going to attach it while they're refugee seekers, just like the Holocaust.
We're going to have another Holocaust if we don't see this whole thing.
It's this whole gaslighting and hype, and it's so taboo, you're not allowed to question it at all.
And it's amazing to me that it's so ingrained.
Even on my show, I have a show that I do at least once a week, and My co-hosts, we got into an argument, and I had my producer cut the feed at about an hour in.
We usually do three hours.
Because they were arguing with me, and all I was doing was trying to say this whole conflict between Gaza and Israeli conflict was, there's two sides to this.
This is not just a cut and dried, Israel has a right to defend itself.
And that's what they were shouting back at me, and I said, guys, Israel has a history of provoking people around them.
And they were, you know, it was just all this garbage around it.
And so I love the fact that you brought it up.
There's a whole bunch of stuff that I want to bring up.
And you brought up Nick Fuentes.
And I bring up Gina Carino, that she got kicked off of Star Wars because she just made an inference, like the Holocaust.
And they were so up in arms they fired her off the show and she didn't even know about it.
It was in a tweet that she got notified.
Right.
And so this whole sacred cow that we can't touch is ridiculous.
We have to have open discussions.
We have to be able to say, you know what?
The Holocaust happened.
People died.
It was horrific.
But there's also a whole bunch of hype that's over-magnified it.
And then you're attaching it to these other incidences within society and within our history that don't
really apply and then you're trying to say I can't talk about any of those subjects
Because we've attached this issue to it. It's ridiculous, right? I agree
harrison smith
And that's why I made it at the beginning of the show sort of the point to separate like the historical reality, which is history and has to be able to question.
And then the way it's portrayed in, you know, conversation in politics today, which is it has all the elements of a religious dogma.
And, you know, you've got essentially an inquisition out there saying, like, if you dare to question, you know, the dogma of our religion, you are a heretic, a blasphemer, and you must be destroyed.
That's not America.
We don't have a state religion.
You're allowed to question.
You're allowed to even be openly insulting and, you know, derogative of people's firmly held beliefs.
It's a very small price to pay for what we get in return, which is the ability to know the truth, tell the truth and think for ourselves.
So, you know, some people have to be offended for that to be the case.
It's it's it's a small price to pay for a For freedom itself, for literally being able to think our own thoughts.
Some people get offended, and that's just the case.
It's just how it has to be.
Thank you for your input, Jeremy.
I can come up here and talk about the most verboten subjects in the world because I start with a very simple, resolute, foundational premise which is loving everybody and wanting to know the truth.
And so why shouldn't I talk about anything and everything?
Why should I be afraid of touching some third rail and getting shocked?
There's no reason to avoid any of these topics.
It's especially, especially when these topics are invoked in the modern day to do things like opening the border.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
You're going to use it to justify political decisions today, but I can't question the foundation of that political decision.
This is, this is not right.
So, um, I'm an American.
I get to question or talk about whatever the hell I want.
And, uh, of course recognize that that also is an obligation
to not be flippant or nonsensical about any of this, which again is the danger,
is that if the only story you're telling is an incomplete one,
that people are gonna be looking for what they're not being told.
And if the only people out there who are willing to engage in this topic
are the ones who go, yes, the Holocaust wasn't real, but it should have been.
We don't wanna be on either one of these extremes.
You get to talk about it, but you have to understand that people died
and people that are alive now saw their family die.
And so, you just treat it with, I think the respect and seriousness it deserves.
So that doesn't mean you're scared of it.
I refuse to be scared of it.
And I have to ask myself, am I not talking about this because I'm scared?
And if so, time to get over that.
Thank you for the call, Jeremy.
Let's go to... Yeah, and by the way... I don't know.
This is the funny thing.
People are like, Alex Jones hates Hitler, and it's like, yeah.
Yeah, we hate Hitler.
Yeah, we probably would be in jail if we were in Nazi Germany.
Like, we're not exactly the whole, like, trust the experts, obey the state.
Type of people.
That's not what we're into.
So it shouldn't be a surprise that we're not big fans of the Nazis.
They sort of are everything that we stand against.
On the flip side, that also doesn't mean that we think white people are inherently evil and deserve to be displaced in their own homelands.
It's a nuanced stance, but it's actually not.
It's actually just consistent.
It's actually just saying everybody has a right to their own land, and that includes Palestinians, it includes Germans, it includes Jews and Israelis.
So it's very simple, actually, at the end of the day.
Let's go to Greg in Philly now.
Go ahead, Greg, on line number eight.
unidentified
Hey Harrison, how's it going?
harrison smith
Good, thank you.
unidentified
I'm calling about the, you know, the big uproar about the Aurora buildings being taken over by migrants.
You know, there's a company like, you know, that is related to BlackRock called Home Partners of America.
They do is they rent to own for a lot of these immigrants.
And the money that is being dished out by California and other states is a direct lobbying from these companies.
The block profit is associated with this whole debacle.
So what they do is pretty much they, you know, tell you to find a house that you want to buy and you rent to own.
And then you're never able to buy it because what happened is the maintenance fees, the taxes, everything gets accumulated.
And by the end, When you're ready to buy it, as you agreed on $300,000, it becomes $450,000 or $490,000, and these people can never buy it, and they get kicked out, and the next victim comes in.
Well, that worked for Americans for a long time, but people stopped doing that.
Did they just straight own or straight rent?
Now they need more customers, and that's what's happening.
All these people are being financed by A bigger umbrella than people think is there, and they can't grasp.
harrison smith
So many people are making billions off of this.
I mean, we've covered the way the hotels will jack up their prices and the government will guarantee they'll rent out every room for the next year.
So the hotels are like, hell yeah, this is this is awesome.
We'll just we'll provide minimal service.
We don't have to advertise, we don't have to worry about customers coming in.
The federal government will just pay us in lump sums and they'll take up every room.
And we're set and we get to charge extra because there's so many people that need places to
stay and they're desperate, so they'll pay whatever we say and they don't care.
The government doesn't care because it's not their money, it's taxpayer money.
And then you've got, in that video you saw, there's some worker there at some organization
I've never heard of, but clearly they're helping to facilitate this.
We've got taxpayer money flowing into these organizations that are like the...
you know, National Refugee Resettlement Organization.
I mean, they're getting taxpayer money.
And, you know, the, I'm sure the landlords are making bank.
I'm sure BlackRock is there to snatch up the properties once the value goes down,
so they can turn the previously owned houses into rental properties.
I mean, it is a gigantic scam.
It's all a gigantic scam, and people are getting very, very rich
off the destruction of America.
unidentified
Let me show you how this works.
harrison smith
Let me show you how we do Twitter.
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Jason in California, first time caller, wants to talk about tyranny and what the Bible says about it.
Go ahead, Jason, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, thanks for taking my call, Harrison.
harrison smith
Sure.
unidentified
So I've been listening for a long time.
I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying, and it's great.
InfoWars is the best.
Here's my issue with life, I guess.
That's what you could say.
People give in so easily, and they're so easily guided in whatever direction the powers that be want to guide people.
You know, I think it's been happening since the beginning of time, people using, whether it be religion or fear or knowledge to gain To gain some type of power over their fellow man.
And, you know, it's like Jesus.
That's who I look to.
Now, granted, I haven't always been a believer, but in the recent, you know, 12 or 14 years or whatever, I have become quite faithful in Jesus, and I do try to live the way that He has outlined for us.
You know, as human beings, we need to be willing to risk persecution, poverty, basically everything.
You know, you got to be willing to risk everything you own when you're comfortable.
It's so easy just to go with the flow.
But that comfortableness and going with the flow is what's gotten us into this position as a world, as a country, as a world.
harrison smith
And the tyrants learned that, right?
They learned that if you, you know, make it really easy for people to give in, people are likely to give in.
I mean, they don't, you know, that's why it's the whole like Huxley versus Orwell thing where Orwell's full conception was like the boot on the neck.
But like, that takes a lot of effort.
That's hard to do.
It's a lot easier to go Hey, just surrender your sovereignty and we have a really comfortable bed for you, and you can have sex with beautiful women, you can eat all this delicious food.
Just give in.
You know, it's the classic, hey, you'll be king of all of Sparta if you just give us some dirt and some water.
I mean, how easy is that?
It's so much harder to go to war against us.
So absolutely, the tyrants have learned this paradigm and employ it very effectively to lure people into submission rather than forcing them into it.
unidentified
Pirates have learned to do that.
So we, as the good people, need to learn how to counter that.
And if you want to learn how to counter it, you know, read the New Testament.
Look how Jesus was treated, and look how He treated others.
And, you know, and that's why they hated Him, and they wanted to kill Him so bad.
And that's why, if you love Jesus, and you support Jesus, and you live the way Jesus did, or you try to at least, because of course, you know, it's impossible to be Him.
But that's why you're hated.
That's why they're Killing Christians all over the world.
That's why the government is so against us.
Because, you know, we know exactly how to counter this, and we're willing, we're willing to lose everything we have to live properly.
Because if we do that, and when we do that, we are entitled to, not entitled, but we are, you know, we're going to be part of eternal life with Jesus.
So what happens on this earth, It matters how you live and what you stand for.
And I think that's the main thing.
Everyone is so upset these days because nothing's working out.
Prices are huge on trying to get a loan to buy a house.
You go to the grocery store, and here in California, it's $400 or $500 to fill a cart full of groceries.
You know, and that's not even the best stuff ever.
harrison smith
Right.
And that's what you'll find.
You'll find it's incredibly easy to give in to tyranny until it becomes incredibly difficult
to live under it.
And that's just the way that it is.
So yeah, they'll lure you in, you know, making you think it's easy to give in now.
But as soon as you do, the cage door shuts and getting out is going to be a hell of a
lot harder than resistance was in the first place.
unidentified
We'll go directly out to your calls.
harrison smith
Good.
I'm doing good as well.
Mr. Process in Wisconsin.
I'm going to hold him the longest.
Thank you for calling.
Thank you for holding Mr. Process.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, how are you doing this morning, Harrison?
harrison smith
Good.
icarus in wisconsin
I'm doing good as well.
Yeah, I wanted to...
During this current controversy, and I think in light of the news of what's going on
with the Israeli-Gaza conflict and the brutality and lack of morals
and ethics by the IDF, Israeli Defense Force, that I personally don't want to hear
about the Holocaust anymore because Hitler never sodomized any French people
or Russians with sticks.
They didn't use Apache.
He didn't use Apache attack helicopters at a music festival.
You know, my family Grandfather fought the Nazis.
Obviously, you know, I have a graveyard full of family members that were killed by the Nazis.
I don't like Hitler by any means.
But they said, never again.
And then they ended up in Israel, turning into the monster that they were fighting against.
So I kind of had trouble dotting that I or crossing that T. You know what I mean?
harrison smith
What do you think?
Yeah, I think there's a lot of similarities.
Stephen Hughes has a great series of jokes about that, a stand-up comedian.
You gotta look up Stephen Hughes to get the full sense.
This is what I was saying earlier.
Collective punishment.
I'm against it.
Alright?
You're not gonna, you know, hurt my Jewish friends because George Soros did something wrong.
Like, this doesn't make any sense.
Just because you're the same ethnicity or the same religion doesn't mean you're guilty of crimes committed.
By people similar to you, this is nonsense, but that's the way that the Nazis treated people, that's the way that Israel treats people, that's the way a lot of people, that's the way, you know, people here treat Americans, white people in particular, men as well.
This is anti-American, this is wrong, this is anti-Christian, you don't do collective punishment.
That's bad.
I don't, you know, you don't, you don't kill a baby because they might potentially grow up to be a terrorist.
Like this is, this is evil.
So I'm against it.
So I'm against it when it's Nazis.
I'm against it.
If it's Israel, I'm against the thing that they're doing, uh, which is, uh, unique, I guess in the world today on that topic, since this is a big topic today, we have a story, uh, about the, the hostages and all of the, There have been six more hostages killed.
There's a giant protest in Israel about this.
And I do want to go back to this article from the Times of Israel.
This was published a little while ago.
No doubt Netanyahu prevented hostage deal charges ex spokesman of the Families Forum.
This is Chaim Rubinstein.
He heard the sirens go off at his home on October 7th.
He turned on the television and saw Hamas terrorists getting off a white pickup truck in Sirat and watched social media footage of Israelis being kidnapped.
And so Rubenstein, an experienced media advisor who previously served as spokesperson for former Yesh Atid MK Ofer Shella as a member of the party's media team in four election campaigns, said, I can no longer sit around.
I have to be involved.
But what he says is that essentially there was no concern about the abductions.
There's no concern about the hostages from Netanyahu whatsoever.
And in fact, they were simply interested in using the hostages as an excuse to go after Gaza.
He says this in fairly certain terms.
Prime Minister Netanyahu appointed Hirsch to act as a coordinator between the families and the government.
Rubinstein contends that at the time Hirsch's team didn't have comprehensive information regarding the number of hostages.
And he says, uh, so he's working to get the hostages freed.
And they say, do you feel like the government was ignoring you?
Absolutely no representative of the government or the IDF has updated the, had updated the families of the hostages that the IDF was beginning the ground offensive in Gaza strip.
We couldn't understand how it could be that families weren't getting updated on the ramifications of this.
And it just, it really just goes on and on.
What was the atmosphere like?
He says, we left the meeting very disappointed because Netanyahu talked about regarding the demands to return hostages.
He merely said that a military operation in Gaza was needed to serve as leverage for the hostages release.
We later found out that Hamas had offered on October 9th or 10th to release all civilian hostages
in exchange for the IDF not entering the strip, but the government rejected that offer.
So all of the comments about the hostages and the desperation to reclaim them,
they were not interested in reclaiming the hostages.
They were interested in using the hostages to carry out their long-planned conquering of Gaza.
It's not like there's anything unique about this.
This is warfare.
All's fair in love and war.
The Israelis use false flags, the Americans use false flags, the British use false flags, and the Nazis use false flags.
It's evil.
It's bad.
It's war.
It needs to stop.
It needs to end.
And the people responsible for this shouldn't be able to get away with it by, you know, hearkening back to a historical event to shield themselves from criticism.
That's not how it works.
And we've got evil going on right now that needs to be stopped.
And we have to be able to talk about how to stop it and what's behind it.
Thank you for the call, Mr. Process.
Let's go to Michael in Virginia.
Michael in Virginia, go ahead.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Yes.
Thank you, Mr. Smith, for taking this call.
You know, these people have always been about one thing, allowing war constantly.
That's who they are.
Murder.
But they also are moments where they stop it.
And there are also moments when they prevent it.
But eventually, it always comes back to more murder, more war.
That's who they are.
And you started the process of the information war.
And it's inevitable that the victory will come back to you.
The information war, you know, as far as us gathering information, that's who we are.
This is the point.
This is who they are.
They just are monstrous, murderous, uh...
harrison smith
See, psychotic anti-human psychopaths?
I think I get where you're going with this, Michael.
No.
Look, I completely agree, and that's... I mean, there's so many absurd things to say about this.
I mean, maybe the most absurd is the fact that you can get called anti-Semitic for criticizing
George Soros, a man who himself personally participated in the eradication of Jews during
the Holocaust and decades later said he had no regrets about it.
So I mean, this is absurd.
You can actually, Klaus Schwab, Klaus Schwab's father, ran a factory that used Jewish slave
labor during the Holocaust.
But you're an anti-Semite if you criticize him.
I mean, this is how convoluted, nonsensical and demented all of this is.
A lot of bad people use a lot of historical situations to justify their evil behavior
now and we don't want to let them get away with it.
And we'll get called names for that, but at the end of the day, we are desperate, desperate for peace, and we'll go after whoever's standing up against it, regardless of their identities.
Thank you for the call, Michael.
Let's go to Matt in Missouri.
Go ahead, Matt.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Harrison.
Morning.
First, I wanted to thank you for covering such a taboo subject.
Personally, myself, I haven't even decided, you know, which narrative I believe.
I just wanted to say, you know, I'm willing to question it.
And five or six years ago, I wouldn't have been.
You know, our government and media screamed Russia 24 hours a day for four years, and the whole entire thing was fake.
So, I'm willing to entertain a different narrative.
harrison smith
Remember, today's fake news becomes tomorrow's unquestionable history.
unidentified
Right, right.
And then one last thing I wanted to say, there's a lot of people on Twitter or Rx or whatever you want to call it, calling everybody that even listens to Tucker's broadcast a Nazi sympathizer.
And if you notice, a lot of those accounts have Ukrainian flags in their bio.
harrison smith
Who literally have Nazi battalions fighting right now.
unidentified
Right.
harrison smith
That's amazing.
unidentified
If I'm a Nazi for just questioning it, you know, what are those people?
harrison smith
Right.
I'm telling you, it's just absurd, folks.
It's absurd from every angle.
No, I really appreciate it, Matt.
I do want to get to one more call because Dave in Arizona apparently wants to quote C.S.
Lewis, who is my eternal pope, C.S.
Lewis.
Go ahead, Dave.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm inspired by...
Yeah, thanks.
I'm inspired by C.S.
Lewis.
So I came up with this one.
If you're unwilling to sacrifice for what you love, what you love becomes your sacrifice.
And C.S.
Lewis told us, he predicted that we would become men without chests.
And of course, the first step in regaining our republic is to regain our language.
We need to call people what they are illegal invaders
Performing rape because children are not able to consent.
It's not sex trafficking those people never consent to sex Even if they're I get exactly you're saying
harrison smith
We have to be able to speak truthfully and forthrightly and in words that we all understand.
Otherwise, evil can be done in the confusion when words fall short.
Thank you everybody for being here with us.
Stay tuned.
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