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greg reese
The British royal family, who own over 16% of the entire planet, seems to be falling apart, which is nothing who own over 16% of the entire planet, seems to be falling apart, which is nothing to mourn, for they are one of In 1964, the Queen and Prince Philip visited a school in British Columbia.
Former resident William Coombs claims that ten of his classmates were taken by the Queen and Prince Philip, never to be seen again.
The notorious pedophile and necrophiliac Jimmy Savile was close friends with the royal family.
Charles wanted him to be Prince Harry's godfather.
He was awarded the most excellent order of the British Empire in 1971 and knighted by the Queen in 1990.
Prince Andrew has been a regular at Jeffrey Epstein's Pedophile Island.
King Charles was close friends with a bishop who was convicted of raping over a dozen boys.
A former student of Aldenam School claims that students were routinely raped and tortured by members of the Worshipful Company of Brewers, which was frequented by Jimmy Savile, King Charles, and Lord Mountbatten, who has been accused of raping an 11-year-old boy.
Jeanette Archer says she was abused by the royals as a young child and says that they are reptilians.
According to Princess Diana's friend, Christine Fitzgerald, Diana's nickname for the Windsors was the reptiles and used to say that they are not human.
While this may sound strange, most royal bloodlines in history were said to be the offspring of reptilians, often described as dragon or serpent people.
In an interview with David Icke, Arizona Wilder told her story of being bred for the express purpose of conducting rituals for the royal family.
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Was bred for this role that I fulfill.
I was being abused and traumatized and on purpose for the mind control that they need someone to go through to do whatever they say.
greg reese
She explained the importance of blood rituals.
unidentified
What it's all about is that the blood and the menstrual blood It contains something that is important for the propagation of this race that is controlling things on this planet.
greg reese
She explained the infamous adrenochrome.
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For it to be secreted in the blood is they need terrorization of their victims.
They are killed at that moment as they are staring into their eyes.
greg reese
She said when the royals and others smelled blood, they would shape-shift into reptilians.
unidentified
When the victims are starting to be sacrificed, it's the scent of the blood.
They start shape-shifting at that point in time.
They can't hold their shape when this happens.
The human shape. The human shape they cannot hold.
They go back into reptilian shape as this is happening because it's a Type of excitement of the kill.
I have seen at Rituals, I have seen George Bush.
I have seen the two sons when they were young.
Are these the sons that have become governors?
Yes. One is in Florida and one is in Texas.
Madeleine Albright. I have seen Henry Kissinger.
I've seen the Queen Mother there.
And I have seen Princess Margaret there.
I've seen Charles there.
What have you seen the Queen or any of the royal family do in relation to that?
Have you seen them sacrifice and consume human flesh?
I've seen all of them drink human blood and consume human flesh.
There are certain times when there will have been someone doing a sacrifice and it's not happening fast enough for them.
So they will step in and finish it themselves.
These reptilians live Hundreds of years.
And so they have to have taken more than one human body to live in.
greg reese
David Icke predicted years ago that the royal family would be removed to make way for a one-world government.
And Dr. Michael Sala, who has been researching exo-politics for 20 years, has a different theory which could explain the fading of the royal family.
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The ousting of the Saqqara reptilians.
You're listening to The American Journal with your host, Chase Geyser.
Watch it live right now at band.video.
Welcome back to the American Journal, folks.
chase geiser
I am Chase Geiser, your host today.
Harrison Smith will be back in the studio on Monday morning.
I'm actually going to reach out to him today and see if he wants to come on with me on Sunday night for the Sunday night live show because I miss him.
And I want to give him a chance to come back in the studio and I want to change things up a little bit on the Sunday night show after the Alex Jones show from 4 to 6 p.m.
Central Time. I don't know if you had a chance to watch or not, but I did watch one and a half times Harrison's appearance on the TimCast podcast last night.
I was very excited about it.
I know that over the last several days since I'm substituting here for Harrison on the American Journal, filling those big shoes, hard shoes to fill.
I've mentioned it to you. I was excited about it.
I've been on TimCast once.
This is Harrison's second time on the show.
And we're going to be going through some clips from the show and analyzing some of the back and forth between Harrison and Tim Pool.
And I'm trying to be very careful about how I talk about this because my goal is to defend and back up and honor Harrison while simultaneously not saying anything rude or insulting about Tim Pool.
And I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it, but it is my genuine goal because I like Tim Pool.
And there are a number of reasons why I like Tim Pool.
Before I go into these clips, before we dive in and just look at this bizarre exchange, the bizarre treatment from Tim on Harrison Smith, I want to provide a little context.
So when Tim Pool books you on his show...
Typically, a member of his team reaches out to you via Twitter, and it is incredibly awesome.
The way that they treat their guests in terms of logistics, organization, is top-notch, professional.
I felt like a celebrity, and I'm nowhere close to a celebrity.
They make you feel very special.
They reach out to you.
They ask you if you want to come on.
Depending on why they want you to come on, they might want you to come on sooner, or they might just let you pick a day that you want to come on in the next month.
And then once you pick the day that you want to come, they'll ask you what your preferred flight times are.
Then they will book your flight and pay for it for you.
You will fly into D.C. and they will provide a full-time driver to pick you up at the airport.
They will take you to a quaint hotel.
They will pay for your hotel.
Then they will drive you from the hotel to the show, whether that night or the next day.
I think they try to fly you in the day before the show just in case there's an issue with travel.
Then they will drive you back to the hotel and pick you up in the morning and take you to the airport before your departure.
Everything paid for, the only thing you have to pay for are the meals that you eat while you're waiting to come on the show.
Then when they drive you in, it's a beautiful compound.
It's an amazingly impressive compound.
Everybody is so nice.
And I specifically remember the driver telling me stories about what it was like to work at TimCast.
And just singing Tim's praises, he's such a good employer, he treats us so generously, he really takes care of the people that are close to him.
I mean, I am convinced, even now, I am convinced that Tim Poole, despite what you may think based on his attitude or his approach, I am convinced that he is a genuinely good human being and he takes care of his own.
Absolutely. I think that he's just got a little bit of an abrasive personality.
He comes off colder than he really is.
He comes off more aloof than he really is.
Maybe even more narcissistic or self-righteous than he actually is.
For some reason, he just seems to come off that way.
And maybe that just goes along with being a personality for the show that he's developed.
And you have to keep in mind that regardless of what you think of Timcast and the crew and the co-hosts and the guests and the way they do their show every single night...
His accomplishment as the host of TimCast, building this brand, is incredibly, incredibly impressive.
I can tell you this from experience.
I was in the social media advertising space.
I've worked with countless people trying to be influencers, countless businesses trying to build audiences.
I've tried to build audiences on YouTube, Rumble, every social media platform, some with better luck than others.
And the amount of attention to detail and discipline and just pureness The pure determination that that man puts into his operation is some of the most impressive work that I've ever seen in this space.
I also want to tell you that I believe that he believes what he says.
I don't believe that he's a grifter at all.
I think he's an honest person.
I think he says what he means and he means what he says.
Okay, so having given you this disclaimer with my experience with Tim Pool, I hope to go back on the show sometime.
I really enjoyed it. Having told you what his employees and his team say about him, what I know from my own personal experience about him, I just want to make it abundantly clear that I'm a fan of Tim Pool.
I don't watch every episode, but when there's a guest, I like some more to Joe Rogan.
I'll tune in and watch it. But when I was watching Harrison's appearance last night, I was flabbergasted.
Frankly, I don't think appalled is the right word because it wasn't so bad that it was appalling.
But I could not believe the amount of disrespect that was cast upon Harrison over the course of 30 or 45 minutes or so as they debated this rather minute issue.
And I told you either yesterday or the day before that Harrison is one of the most talented people that I've ever met.
And having seen the way he handled the situation last night on Timcast, I am reaffirmed in that conviction.
I think he maintained his composure and his poise, and I was so impressed that he was able to handle that situation the way he did, having been basically ambushed.
Keep in mind, when somebody flies you to come onto their show, and then they pay for your hotel, they pay for your driver, they're exposing you to their audience, it's an incredible opportunity.
They bring you into their home.
This compound that they operate out of is where many of them live, as I understand it.
It is incredibly awkward to unexpectedly be ambushed in such an aggressive way while you're the guest in someone else's home.
I'm a firm believer in the claim that every man is king in his own castle.
I think I stole it from the Robin Hood movie with Russell Crowe.
I think he says that. That's like the only good line from that whole movie.
And I can't imagine what it would be like to sit there as a guest and be torn between how you should defend yourself while you're being disrespected and simultaneously having the desire not to disrespect your host.
And I could not believe how impressive and mature and adult-like...
matt infowars
And also not walk off the set.
chase geiser
And also not walk off the set.
I think Ye might be the only person to ever have walked off TimCast.
Is that right, Matt?
matt infowars
Do you know? I don't know the stats on that, but I can see where it's an easy out, right?
When you have to put up with stuff.
And for people who don't understand that, you know what I mean?
I'm probably the worst person in front of the camera.
I just tend to not be good in front of the camera.
But for people who are on camera, you do have to maintain a level of composure.
And when you're put on the spot like that, there is a huge temptation to say, Hey, you know what?
Thanks for the opportunity.
Because you don't want to be rude to other people.
You don't want to burn bridges. There are a lot of things that...
And this also, you know, it does mirror the way that I think a lot of people have discourse in their own lives, right, at the dinner table and stuff like that.
Whereas, you know, you can tell a family member to, hey, you know, shut up for a second, you know.
You can say things in the heat of the moment that will be forgiven, typically, if you don't go too overboard.
But you can't even really reach that level here because how well do you know these people?
Like you said, he's got a team of people that reaches out to you.
It's not like Tim Pool reaches out to you.
chase geiser
He's got a team of people. He doesn't even follow me on Twitter.
I don't have his phone number. He doesn't have my phone number.
matt infowars
It's not his personal relationship.
It's not as personal. It's more of a professional relationship.
And ultimately, I guess for people who haven't done TV, it's a little bit like going into a job interview that everybody's viewing.
I agree.
chase geiser
Well, and the other tempting thing about it is you know that if you walk off like a tough guy, it's immediately going to go viral and you're going to look awesome.
In the back of your mind, you're like, oh, if I walk off right now, this might actually pay off more than if this episode just went swimmingly.
You know, like, yeah, it went viral for walking off is the reason I know.
And even some hosts, I believe, based on some recent videos that I've seen, actually plan the walk-offs.
What was the host of some podcasts recently with the UFC guy?
I forget his name, Dana White. It was like a fake walk-off.
He said he was sick of doing podcasts.
He walked off. It was clearly staged.
There is a marketing incentive as well.
And I just thought Harrison behaved astoundingly.
Now, we've only got about 13 minutes left or so of this segment particularly, but I've got six clips dialed in ready for us to go over.
We're going to watch them one at a time and then review, but I'm going to give you a little bit of context.
So basically what was happening is I understand it and feel free to correct me in the third hour when we either take calls or do a space we haven't decided yet.
As I understand it, there was a little bit of disagreement between Harrison and Tim about the nature of revolution.
And how governments collapse and civilizations collapse.
And Tim Pool was saying, as I understand it, that if there are many countless spots of small uprisings simultaneously within a very rapid short period of time, our government doesn't have the capacity to handle that level of crisis.
Insurrection or uprising.
Uprising is a better word than insurrection.
So if small pockets of 15 people in thousands of different rural communities all over the United States decide to take matters into their own hands, that would catalyze the collapse of our civilization, our government.
And Harrison was simply making the point that he doesn't believe or didn't believe or doubted at least that That critical mass could be reached in a quick enough timeframe.
Enough people in enough different locations could rise up in a quick enough timeline, timeframe, that our government wouldn't have a chance to respond.
He was simply saying, I think that it would catch on and they would stop it one spot at a time.
And they were just disputing this.
You'll see how ridiculous it got.
Let's go ahead and start with clip number nine.
This is At the beginning of this conversation, comparing the United States to Rome and then throwing a curveball to Harrison about a clown with a gun.
tim pool
And a lot of people like to say what's happening in the US right now is so much like the Roman Empire.
It's the barbarians storming the gates.
And then I end up talking to these guys and they're like, which period in the thousands of years of Rome are you talking about?
Because people like to mix and match different parts of Rome to make it seem like we're in Rome right now.
And it turns out we're actually not.
It's their similarities to some parts of it, but it's not very much like it at all.
What you end up seeing with the fall of the Roman Empire is a guard in the eastern portion, which eventually breaks away into the Eastern Roman Empire, which became the Byzantine Empire later.
Right. It's because a soldier walks up to someone and says, I am a soldier.
And they go, yeah, yeah, yeah, buddy, get in line like everybody else.
And they say, did you hear what I said?
I am the soldier. I represent Rome.
And they go, Rome who? And then all of a sudden it matters not what you think your enforcement is.
The way I've described it before is actually much simpler.
If you got a knock on your door and you looked in your people and there was a guy in a clown costume and you said, can I help you?
And he held up a war and said, I'm from the clown police and you need to open your door.
You'd be like, okay, buddy, you need to get off my property now or else.
Right now, we are in a country where when law enforcement shows up to your house, you recognize the law enforcement.
You say, okay. Or a lot of people actually now are calling cops.
We've seen this with federal law enforcement.
It happened in Ohio a couple years ago when an ATF guy showed up to some lady's house.
She called the police. The police detained the ATF guy.
You get to this point where people laugh and say, when was the last time your agency actually did anything to anybody?
And they view the uniform no different than they would view a clown costume as something unrecognizable, silly, and a joke.
That's how Rome breaks.
When confidence no longer exists, the badge means anything.
harrison smith
Well, but the badge doesn't have to mean anything if the gun means something.
I mean, you're going to do what they say, and you're going to treat them like an armed person.
tim pool
Maybe the uniform doesn't matter, but it wouldn't matter if— So what would you do if a clown showed up to your house with a gun, banging, saying, let me in?
harrison smith
Well, it's, I mean, yeah, that's a very silly example, but if it's a group of clowns that kick down my door in the middle of the night and point them in my face and say, hands up, I would have to put my hands up and go with them.
tim pool
I feel like you're making excuses to try and justify why you think confidence can't break in government, because we all know what happened, because we've all seen it happen in this country, and it happens very, very often.
When plainclothes police officers kick doors in without announcing themselves, armed homeowners fire back.
chase geiser
What do you think about that, Matt, when you see that clip?
matt infowars
Okay, so I do think that they're arguing for two different things and they're maybe not seeing eye to eye.
I, a couple years ago, read Annie Jacobson's book about Afghanistan.
Where she details our diplomatic mission and says that from the very outset, our civilizations between the West and the rural Afghan populations, which we were trying to control...
We had a difference, and that difference was in terms of what is a civil society.
Ultimately, it's how we carried out justice, right?
In the West, we do consider a civilized society, a society that tries people who are accused of a crime.
There's no vigilante justice, right?
And we also defer authority, right?
That's the hugest thing, and that's what Tim is talking about.
Tim is talking about people saying, okay, I no longer respect your authority.
That's like some Cartman-level stuff, right?
So I do see, you know, with the defund the police movements and the attitudes towards police, right, being so radicalized, That, yeah, people are losing respect for the law.
It's easier nowadays.
I think that this has always been an issue.
We get more of it now that there's YouTube and there's body cams that are being published on YouTube.
But to see how people treat the police on a day-to-day basis, I mean, it is a very thankless job.
But, you know, to Harrison's point, yeah, at the end of the day, power is wielded by those who have the arms.
chase geiser
Absolutely, and...
You're going to love this.
I can't wait to get your reactions throughout these clips.
And I don't want to throw you on the show if you're working on other things.
Not all the time. But I always love your insight in this stuff because it's so different from my approach.
But then every time you say it, I resonate with it.
I'm like, yeah, that's right on the money.
So in this next clip, I believe that Harrison meant to use the term spontaneous, but used the term magical.
Basically interchangeably, he meant magical in the sense of spontaneous.
It appears to me that this is where Tim took offense because I think he felt the term magical was patronizing.
So let's run clip 12 here.
Here it's just about 30 seconds and you'll see where it begins to go downhill.
harrison smith
My question is how would the mass breakout of this happen without coordination?
I mean, unless it just magically happens in a bunch of different places at once.
Well, yeah.
What would be the absurd word to use?
Well, but that's what it would take because.
tim pool
Well, first you have you have a couple of different concepts surrounding the you have the ideas of mass formation.
Psychosis is something we use in a negative context where people begin to adopt rapid behaviors through mass media.
So certainly I wouldn't call it magic that the wokeness mind, mind virus emerges and infects all of our media.
chase geiser
So let's go straight into clip 13 because it ties into this next point about vigilante justice and how this unravels.
But I just wanted to show that clip because that use of the word magically seems to have come off triggering for Tim because you'll see in the rest of these clips, it gets more and more heated.
Harrison the entire time maintains his cool.
He never says anything rude or insulting, but Tim gets more and more irritated.
Let's watch clip number 13 here.
tim pool
It's not about a magical organization.
Organization doesn't need to happen.
It's a guy calling his son.
It's a guy calling his brother. It's a guy sending out a mass text from his phone right now to all his buddies who live within 30 miles, being like, there's a group of criminal aliens, and they're sitting at my property, and they've got guns, and they're threatening to shoot me.
harrison smith
Help. I need help. Right, but the instant he sends that message, the instant he goes online to try to coordinate this, he's getting a knock on the door by the FBI. I mean, the thing is, it is spot cleaning, but unless it all erupts at once and there's too many spots for them to deal with, they will individually— My fear is we get to the point where there are too many criminal alien invaders.
tim pool
You've got millions now in the country.
You've got people posting videos saying seize their homes.
Vigilantes in New York successfully evicted some squatters.
We know what happens next when law enforcement breaks down and nobody wants to live that way.
chase geiser
So it starts to heat up a little bit.
As you can see, this debate is unfolding.
It seems to me that the main disagreement is whether or not enough spontaneous Rebellions, uprisings could happen in a short enough period of time to actually result in the downfall of order on a national scale, on a national level.
Seems like Harrison makes some good points.
There's massive surveillance around.
So as these uprisings would begin, there would be an immediate crackdown with the overwhelming force of our federal government that would likely stop it in time to scare the rest of people away from doing this.
So the issue here...
With this debate, it's not who's right or wrong.
I think it's an interesting topic to discuss whether or not it's possible for enough spontaneous conflicts to manifest out of thin air, I don't want to say magically, in a short enough period of time to make a difference.
But the issue becomes the treatment.
Let's go straight into clip number four here, where Tim starts with the ad hominems, I think.
Excuse me, clip number eight.
harrison smith
Yeah, I just—I don't see that happening.
I mean, this is all deliberate, right?
They're collapsing America on purpose.
They don't have to let a million people in.
They don't have to fly 300,000 people in.
They're doing this on purpose.
This is sort of the desired outcome, because what is the normal person who's not going to pick up a gun and go, you know, join a militia?
They want more government when things start to collapse.
The more it collapses, the more they cling to daddy government to empower them more.
And that's why we have people in the subways in New York.
I mean, that's not a lack of government participation.
It's an upgrade of government participation.
tim pool
The logical line that you are following is that civil wars never have happened before, cannot happen.
Rome never collapsed.
As if confidence in – like the Roman Empire decided one day we would just cease to exist.
chase geiser
So obviously a straw man argument there.
You mischaracterize what the person you're debating says.
And then you attack that mischaracterization.
It's a straw man. You're attacking the fake argument.
Obviously Harrison is intimately familiar with Civil War.
Obviously he's intimately familiar with the history of Rome.
This is a person who is among the most knowledgeable people I know about American history and world history, specifically anything that falls into the realm of anything that would be connected to Lord of the Rings.
So he's interested in that fantasy stuff.
He understands Roman history, Civil War.
And you've heard this man on air for years talk about the problems with the government, the corruption, holding his tongue when he's worried that he might say something technically illegal about what he thinks needs to be done next.
This is somebody who is aware of these problems, does understand civil war and uprisings and conflict on a scale that's not matched by your average person, even of the same intelligence, just unmatched.
And so the fact that Tim immediately goes in and says, oh, you're saying civil war could never happen.
You're saying Rome could never fall is just mind boggling to me.
Let's see what happens here in clip 10.
This is short enough for us to get to.
harrison smith
Watch what he says next. Now, what level do you think it'll get to that this spontaneous, non-magical uprising will take place?
tim pool
The fact that you called it magical, I think, shows that you haven't read enough about historical conflict.
harrison smith
I'm pretty well-read in history.
tim pool
But you said magically happened.
What do you mean? In tons of countries throughout history, there have been pockets where confidence is shattered and people begin to assert autonomy.
chase geiser
So at that point, it seems to me, and I haven't spoken to Harrison about this, that Harrison realizes that Tim has an issue with the term magical.
And so he explicitly states non-magical, as if I didn't mean the term magical in the patronizing sense that you're interpreting it, Tim.
And he uses the word spontaneous.
I mean, spontaneous, not magical.
Literally, Tim hangs on to this magical thing and then insults Harrison by saying that he hasn't read enough history.
This guy's read so much history.
It's almost an autistic level of history reading.
Every time I go into his office, he's reading some bizarre document about some historical thing that's absolutely fascinating.
Even... The names he gives to his family and his dogs are all based in mythology.
This guy understands history.
I don't know why Tim is being so combative.
We've only got 15 seconds left.
I've got one more clip I want to show you in the next segment.
We'll wrap up this conversation and then we'll get into the news.
I just wanted to spend some time today defending Harrison because I was so impressed with his composure in that combative environment.
Stick with us, folks, for more on the other side.
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chase geiser
Welcome back to The American Journal, folks.
unidentified
I am Chase Geyser, your host this morning.
chase geiser
It's an honor and a pleasure to be with you.
We are about ready to wrap up the conversation, analyzing several key clips from the TimCast episode last night with Harrison Smith.
I thought Harrison did a great job. He may or may not be calling in to chime in a little bit later in the show.
I know he's on the way to the airport now to come back to Austin, Texas.
I've got one more clip I want to show you.
It's about two and a half minutes long. So just to sum up for those who may just be tuning in now...
We've shown a clip where Tim Pool says that Harrison doesn't believe that civil wars are real or that Rome fell, that they're possible.
We've shown a clip where Tim Pool says that Harrison obviously hasn't read enough history.
Now, look at this clip.
Listen carefully to what Tim says to Harrison here.
This is clip number 11.
tim pool
Go ahead. We've got to stop real quick.
I think you live in Hollywood.
You live in this world where there has to be armies marching down the street.
I'm talking about a neighborhood watch.
Does neighborhood watch exist?
What happens if 500 neighborhood watches pop up all throughout various rural parts of the country and they say, we don't take orders from federal law enforcement?
None of them have to talk to each other at all.
harrison smith
Yeah, well, they have to talk to each other individually.
tim pool
Oh, like three guys who live next door to each other have to talk to each other.
harrison smith
Gee, that sounds very hard. No, but they already have done a very good job of systematically, I mean, January 6th was like the biggest honey trap ever, and they said, right, it was a shock and awe campaign to take out the leadership that would be able to organize.
tim pool
But this proves that January 6th was disorganized nothing.
It proves that there was no plan, that people just should have been bumbled about.
Some people got angry and fought with cops, and now they're being chased down.
And I think there's like 1,300 people so far.
And some people showed up after the fact and walked in confused, proving there was no organization and no plan, yet you still managed to get hundreds of thousands of people to show up down there.
Now, spot removal.
When you have a few thousand people, three years on, they're still tracking people down and going after them.
And if your argument is they want to get every single one, well, they've only gotten about 1,000.
Out of hundreds of thousands that were in D.C. and thousands of people that were there and a thousand that went in the building, they certainly haven't gotten everybody.
Nor could they. It's not possible.
harrison smith
Yeah, I'm just saying that we've already had an influx of God knows how many, you know, 10 million maybe illegal immigrants over the last just couple years since Biden was in office.
I don't think the vast majority of Americans care or even notice any change in their personal lives.
And they're not going to take a risk, which they would see as a risk, which would be to go against the federal government without something being very compelling for them to do so.
tim pool
I mean, the thing about the taxes— We've got to stop because you've gone all the way back to the beginning of the conversation, which started with— Criminal aliens just set fire to barricades and attacked our country.
Right. And that is the precipice which I described.
When people start getting killed by these people is when, I said, sometime in the next year, people will say, I no longer have confidence.
To go back to now, reset the whole conversation to, there would have to be a catalyst.
I think we should move on.
Let's jump to this story from the New York Post.
chase geiser
Yeah. You don't get to finish your point.
We're going to move on to another story.
Even though you can see where Harrison was going with it, it was a really reasonable point that he was about to make.
Matt, what do you garner from that last clip?
matt infowars
Well, again, I do think both of them are making very, very good points.
If we were to take, for example, social media's role, Twitter's role in the Arab Spring, which I think would have probably been the most recent example of an uprising that was perhaps decentralized but used technology to coordinate for some type of spontaneous uprising.
We have to recognize a couple of realities.
Number one, there was government involvement, right?
Our government and people who worked in technology spaces, who partner with our government, whether it be overtly or clandestinely, helped to organize and facilitate the communication backbone, which a lot of people use in the Arab Spring.
So the conversation that Harrison and Tim have just had on Timcast, people on high level, seventh floor group type people, right, have had that conversation talking about, oh, OK, you know, how feasible is a spontaneous have had that conversation talking about, oh, OK, you know, how feasible is a spontaneous uprising, right, in multiple different You've got a George Floyd incident, something that is extremely triggering, something that could be misconveyed.
It can go viral very quickly and it can lead to all these different things.
Well, BLM was manufactured, right?
There was an element of coordination and support there that came from other groups.
What I'm saying, and I think the point that Harrison is making, is that Social media and all of the outlets that we can fathom, right?
If there's gonna be a technology that's gonna hit critical mass to where at least 20% of the population adopts that technology, you better believe it's on the FBI's radar.
You better believe it's being monitored.
People think, oh, WhatsApp, it's encrypted.
chase geiser
Well... They thought Tor Browser was safe, too.
matt infowars
Right, exactly.
So there's a lot that is a gray zone for people, especially for discussion fodder.
How involved is the government in these uprisings, I think, is what people need to say.
And I think people need to be realistic and We're good to go.
There was some government support with Black Lives Matter.
There were some outside groups, people who participate with government, right, with NGOs and things like that, like let's say George Soros, right, who it's in his best interest.
He profits off of chaos.
Right? There are many ways in which he does that.
There are people with social agendas that, if they want to spark an uprising, sure, but there's going to be a good degree of coordination behind the scenes.
chase geiser
Absolutely. And I think the mistake that Tim is making in this debate, other than being repeatedly rude...
matt infowars
Triggered by the M word?
chase geiser
Yeah, triggered by the M word, is I think he's dramatically...
We're underestimating the amount of discomfort necessary among a people in order for them to rise up, especially spontaneously.
I mean, if you look at the history of the United States, the amount of pressure that was on the colonial Americans before the Revolutionary War was astoundingly high.
And it even says in the Declaration of Independence, and I'm going to butcher it, I'm just going to paraphrase the general message that basically the principle that people are more inclined to tolerate great injustice and suffering and pain from a government than to stand up to that government.
And if we look at this clip, and this is the clip that started the conversation, this is clip number six.
If these Border Patrol employees, soldiers, whatever you want to call them, guards...
If these people in uniform did not open fire on this mob, then why is Tim expecting that within the next year, our rural communities are going to just start rising up against our government?
Run clip six, please. These soldiers could open fire at any point.
There's a mob there.
It's terrifying.
Literally overrun like something from Helm's Deep.
Nobody opens fire.
Why is it that we would have a civil uprising?
Spontaneously all over the country in the United States in the next year if those soldiers whose lives were actually threatened didn't do anything in that event.
That's what's perplexing to me.
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Welcome back to the American Journal, folks.
chase geiser
I'm your host today, Chase Geiser.
We're going to get into the real news now that we've offended our own in the face of tyranny and pending civil war.
I got this stack right here, and at first glance, you might think it's a stack of studies supporting nascent iodine, because there are at least this many studies.
But nope, this is a stack that is one bill, the Republican spending bill that was released late last night or yesterday evening.
And I believe it's got to be voted on.
I could be mistaken about this.
I believe it's got to be voted on by midnight.
So you see the problem.
You think anybody has enough time to read 1,000 pages of this spending bill before midnight tonight?
This is like the criticism that Republicans had for the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare, was that it was so many pages they didn't have time to read it all in order to choose whether or not to vote on it.
And then they come out with stuff like this with 24 hours left to vote, 30 hours left to vote.
It's insane.
And I've done an analysis of the stack, which I'm going to get into.
But in the meantime, I want you to see this two-minute clip from Jesse Waters last night analyzing the bill early on.
jesse watters
This is clip number seven. There's an old saying, nothing good happens after 2 a.m.
Well, this morning at 2.23, Congress released a monster 1,012-page bill with a trillion-dollar price tag.
They're rushing to pass the bill before you have a chance to read it.
Why? Well, because it's full of pork.
And we've been digging through it.
And here's what you're paying for.
Liz Warren is spending $850,000 on a gay senior citizen home in Boston.
Florida has the villages.
Massachusetts has the village people.
We're spending 15 million to pay for Egyptians college tuition.
Egyptian tuition. Not Egyptians who live in America.
Egyptians in Egypt.
Egyptian tuition. So we pay for illegals to go to college here and now we're paying for the tuition before I guess they even cross the border.
Speaking of Egypt, Goldbar bobs sending $400,000 to a gay activist group that teaches elementary school kids about being trans.
Not enough to keep you out of jail, Goldbar.
Sorry. Another $400,000 goes to a group that gives clothes to teens that help them hide their gender, like chest binders and tuckums.
Parental permission not required.
Even Dianne Feinstein, who unfortunately passed away long before the bill was written, has an earmark from the grave.
Half a million dollars for a DEI zoo.
The San Diego Zoo is getting a half a million dollars for an anti-racist nature appreciation program where high school kids from diverse backgrounds can observe wildlife.
Why do they need a half a million dollars to go to the zoo?
Tickets are like 15 bucks.
That should be enough for every congressman, especially the Republicans, to vote no.
But this massive bill will probably be on Biden's desk this weekend.
And it'll just sign your money away.
chase geiser
Poof! When you're looking at a document like this that's longer than Atlas Shrugged, I don't know how it compares to the Bible.
Obviously the Bible, very tiny print, very thin pages.
When you're looking at this, there's just not enough time to read it all.
Not to mention the fact that it's absolutely atrociously boring, let alone offensive, to read some of the details.
So I did something a little controversial.
Some of you may love it. Some of you may hate it.
I used artificial intelligence.
So I ripped this PDF, I don't know, 5 a.m.
this morning as I'm in the office preparing for the show.
I ripped this PDF off of the internet and I upload it to ChatGPT.
And I say, analyze this document, create a list of bullet points summarizing some of the details.
And I had a little bit of a back and forth with ChatGPT.
ChatGPT did create a bullet list of the different things that are being funded in this piece of legislation, as well as the monetary amount being allocated.
Now keep in mind, ChatGPT is not perfect and can sometimes give inaccurate information, though I believe this information is accurate because...
I asked questions specifically about a document that I provided.
It is possible that some of these numbers are not accurate.
However, I am 99% confident that everything I'm about ready to share with you is accurate.
So we're going to go through this bullet list here.
Scholarships and fellowships for students pursuing careers related to the environment as well as Native American and Alaska Native students pursuing healthcare and tribal public policy careers.
Seems absolutely necessary.
The Udall Center for Studies in Public Policy, apparently this is some center that's existed since 1992, which conducts research, public service, and educational programs on the environment, public lands, and Native American affairs.
The U.S. Institute for Environmental Conflict Resolution, this is proposed by Republicans, which aims to resolve environmental conflicts involving federal agencies by providing mediation and conflict resolution services.
And here's when we get into the specific numbers.
Office of Management and Budget is allocated $129 million for necessary expenses.
Amtrak and over-the-road bus security, $9 million for Amtrak security and $1.8 million for bus security.
You know, Amtrak, I believe, has gone bankrupt before.
Our railroads are literally in shambles.
How many times have I mentioned derailments on this show, specifically?
Port security grants, $90 million in accordance with Section 70107 of Title 46 United States Code.
Firefighter grants, $648 million available until September 30th of 2025, equally divided between assistance to firefighters grants and staffing for adequate fire and emergency response grants.
$648 million for firefighters from the federal government.
Emergency Management Performance Grants $319.5 million for various disaster preparedness.
Flood hazard mapping and risk analysis $281.475 million.
Regional catastrophic preparedness grants, $10.8 million.
It sounds like they are really preparing for an apocalypse based on what's being funded here.
Emergency food and shelter programs, $117 million.
Next generation warning system, $40 million, you know, so we can warn people.
Can't you just send out a mass text?
Community project funding and congressionally directed spending grants, $293 million for homeland security purposes, whatever that means.
Federal Buildings Fund.
$9.4 billion.
Small Business Administration Disaster Loans, remember those from COVID-19, $175 million.
Refugee and Entrant Assistance, $6.3 billion.
Refugee and Entrant Assistance.
House of Representatives Modernization Initiative account, $10 million to modernize the House of Representatives.
And finally, Student Financial Assistance, $24.6 billion allocated for various parts of the Higher Education Act, ensuring the maximum Pell Grant for 2024 and 2025 is $6,335.
At this point, I don't even know what to say.
I know it's tedious for me to read all those bullet points, but I think everybody needed to hear.
I needed to read it, frankly.
The amount of money that is being spent on ambiguous and silly things and the fact that our Republican Party, which seems to advocate lowering spending time and time again, they're coming out saying that we should raise the retirement age because...
Social Security is about ready to go bankrupt and people are living longer so they should stay in the workforce.
And I don't have a problem with people staying in the workforce or talking or revisiting retirement ages given that people are living longer.
I have no problem with that. But when you're talking about that as a way to cut spending or earn more tax revenue for the federal government while simultaneously allowing funding for things like this, It seems astounding to me.
It seems abundantly obvious to me that our Republican Party is just as much of a problem as our Democratic Party.
It seems to me that the only difference between Republicans and Democrats in our federal government, I'm not talking about the people of America, but in our federal government, is that one party says all the things that make us incredibly angry, while the other party says all the things that we want to hear.
But in practice, in policy, in votes, they both do the exact same thing, which is exploit and screw the American people so they can spend literally trillions of dollars that go out in these ambiguous, bizarre ways to these bizarre programs just because there must be some sort of kickback going straight into the pockets of our politicians both right and left.
And how many times have we heard Republicans come out and talk about the Green New Deal being a climate hoax?
And every single Republican seems to come out and say, we should take care of our planet, just be good stewards of it.
But this climate change is all a myth.
And then we see that they're giving billions upon billions of dollars to several environmental and climate initiatives.
Is this if they believe it too?
Why are Republicans always conceding to Democrats?
Why is it that both parties have totally abandoned the notion that they should represent the interests or needs or wishes of the American people altogether?
We had the Democrats advocate for democracy, yet time and time again refused to represent their constituents, which is what's supposed to happen in a democracy, though it never seems to.
And then we have Republicans coming out saying that the Democrats spend too much money, and then this is what they propose as their spending bill?
I think the whole thing should shut down.
Why is it that our Republican Party is not just allowing the federal government to shut down?
Obviously, it's a terrorist organization.
Obviously, it's a mafia. Obviously, it's spending all of our money.
The more it spends, the less value our money has, the more our people suffer, particularly the poor people.
This is asinine, corrupt, and evil, folks.
unidentified
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candace owens
First off, trillions of dollars.
You're signing these omnibus bills.
If you read into it where that money is going, it's insane.
It's literally going to museums, boards of museums.
They're quite literally money laundering is what's happening when they sign these bills.
But they keep it so that the information level is so low for...
For Americans, it's like, oh, COVID's so bad, like, we're going to give you a check that's like, you know, $300.
This basically describes welfarism, right?
Like, despite the fact that there's been trillions of dollars since the establishment of welfare, black Americans are poorer today than we were before it.
People don't know this, but during the time of Jim Crow, before welfare was established in the 1950s, black Americans were actually outpacing white Americans in this country in terms of economic growth.
And the reason for that was because our families were together.
We had good values.
The government only wants to give you the bare minimum.
But where's the rest of the money?
Where is it going?
They sign these bills making you think that this money is going to you.
It's not. They are stealing from the American people.
And you look at your congressman, whoever it is that you guys sent down to D.C., and you realize that they're all just puppets.
I feel like we're watching a performance, you know?
And who can say the most outrageous thing?
You know, the Republicans don't want to sign this because they want, you know, slavery.
And they want you back in change.
And the Democrats don't want to sign this because they want grandma to die.
Whatever it is, you're watching just...
unidentified
To me, it's a play. That's why I think if you're black, you shouldn't be beholden to any political party.
candace owens
Democrat or Republican. Right.
I mean, I think that any concept of saying that I am a Republican forever, a Democrat forever is a nonsense.
You know, you should always look at the candidates that are running and any person that is running saying that they want to grow government is your enemy.
unidentified
Why do you think people give you a lot of backlash for questioning people and having questions?
I see it all the time with Charlemagne, if we question something that Kamala Harris did or question something that Joe Biden did or question somebody that's Democrat, why do you think our people have so much backlash when you ask so many questions?
candace owens
Well, because I think that they don't realize that they've been manipulated against their own interests.
And a lot of it is, you know, when you start telling the truth, you become a problem to the establishment, right?
So if you're the military industrial complex and you want people to just kind of sleepwalk into another war, and I'm sitting here telling you that, you know, Pentagon just can't keep finding the trillions of dollars that they send overseas.
They've got this budget and they're sending all this money to Ukraine.
And then they say, oh, we don't know where all the money went.
It's being laundered and it's being sent back to a very small group of powerful people.
And so when you have someone like me who's cutting through all of the emotional arguments, you have to turn that person into persona non grata, right?
And what better way to do it than to have their own community attacking them and saying that they're, you know, pro-white or anti-black.
I mean, it's a nonsense things that they say about me.
If you listen to what I'm actually saying, I'm sitting here providing a blueprint for black Americans to get ahead because it's time, okay?
It's time. We've been doing this for a very long time in this country.
Black America, wake up, okay?
They don't like you.
They don't like us, okay?
So you're not anti. The American government, why would you think the American government wants to help you?
At what point in history has that proven to be right?
And I'll challenge that and I'll make it wider to all Americans.
When has it ever been the circumstance that you felt that the government really just was out for your own best interests?
Think of them as a corporation.
They want to grow themselves.
They want new departments, bigger departments, larger budgets like any other corporation would want.
And they never want to leave D.C. because we don't have term limits, which we should have, right?
If we had term limits and said, you can only serve for four years, well then guess what they would be doing for those four years?
Trying to shrink government because they'd have to come back out and be us, right?
When you look at the way that your tax dollars are being spent, you should be outraged.
You should be angry. But stop thinking that the enemy is, you know, they constantly have us arguing against each other.
Women versus men. Black versus white.
You know, it's a nonsense.
The reason why they want us constantly warring is because it distracts from all of us coming together and taking a look at who the real criminals are.
And the real criminals are this small group, this small cadre of powerful people that I think we're virtually all still on a plantation.
They just made it look nice.
You know, you got a nice chair. We got nice chairs here.
But I think we're all still on a plantation.
chase geiser
We've got some breaking news about Candace Owens that we're going to get into after this break.
This break's coming up in about 20 seconds.
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unidentified
You're watching The American Journal with your host, Chase Geiser.
Watch live right now at band.video.
Get some motor running Head out on the highway Looking for adventure Welcome back to the American Journal, folks.
chase geiser
I am Chase Geiser, your host this morning.
Harrison Smith will be back in studio on Monday morning, if not Sunday night.
unidentified
I am going to invite him to join me on Sunday night for the Sunday Night Live show.
chase geiser
So, breaking news. Apparently, Candace Owens is out at Daily Wire, the CEO of Daily Wire says.
Controversial conservative commentator Candace Owens and the Daily Wire have parted ways.
Daily Wire and Candace Owens have ended their relationship, Daily Wire CEO Jeremy Boring wrote in a post on X, formerly Twitter, Friday.
He did not elaborate on the circumstances behind the move.
Owens, who joined the Daily Wire in 2021, could not immediately be reached for comment.
Owens' departure from the outlet comes after months of tensions between her and Daily Wire co-founder Ben Shapiro over her promotion of various...
Variety speaking. Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories according to Mediate.
So the first I heard of this rumor was actually from this tweet from Gavin McInnes last night.
It was 9.11 p.m.
when he tweeted this. As soon as he tweeted it, I tried to verify whether or not it was true, and I searched X, I Googled.
I couldn't find any corroborating sources about this news until this morning when the crew was kind enough to look into this for me and find that Variety had reported on it, and Jeremy Boring had made a statement.
So, it seems to me likely, though, I don't know for sure.
I haven't talked to Gavin about this.
I haven't texted him or bothered him about it.
It seems to me likely that he was among the first to know of this news.
9-11 p.m., potentially.
Even heard this news directly from Candace.
I don't know.
That's all speculation.
But this is what he says.
Being associated with Nick, referring to Nick Fuentes, just got Candace fired from the Daily Wire.
She doesn't even know him.
It's guilt by association.
For the umpteenth time, all dogs are mammals.
All cats are mammals.
All dogs are not cats.
And I know what it's like to be associated with Nick Fuentes because one fine morning I came in to substitute the American Journal.
And I was surprised to learn that I would be speaking for an hour with Nick Fuentes in the final hour of the show.
Obviously, Nick Fuentes is an incredibly bright young man.
He's an incredibly controversial young man, and he harbors some positions, views, perspectives, beliefs that I vehemently disagree with.
I don't think he's a bad person.
I would say that he's probably anti-Semitic, to say the least.
Actually anti-Semitic in the true term.
And I'm not even disparaging for it.
I like Nick. I text him every once in a while.
He always says encouraging things to me.
We're friends. I disagree with him about this issue.
But I am a tolerant person of other views because I'm not a leftist.
Okay? And immediately after...
This interview with Nick that I did, I had all sorts of messages in my inbox.
And keep in mind, if you want to debate Nick Fuentes about antisemitism, the Jewish question, for lack of a better expression, you You need to prepare because this man is following his career on this highly controversial issue.
He's done the research. He's looked into it.
Regardless of whether he's right or wrong, good or evil, he's certainly not a low IQ person.
This is not somebody that you attack head on, unprepared.
Never fight a stronger enemy head on.
So I knew when I learned that I would be speaking with him in two hours and I would have no time to prepare to debate him on any of these issues, I knew that the only tenable approach that I could go without embarrassing myself was to simply ask him questions and get clarity on all of his positions and views.
I didn't want to debate him or attack him or fight back because I knew that if I did that even if I was right he would make me look like a fool because he is abundantly more prepared.
And he was so polite.
Nice to be around. I genuinely like the guy, to be honest with you, even though I despise the political position that there's something inherently wrong with all Jewish people.
Maybe he would contest that characterization of himself.
So forgive me, Nick, if I'm mischaracterizing your position.
But that is definitely what I gathered from my interaction.
And since I took that approach where I simply asked questions and listened to his answers, I received a litany of messages in my inbox on texts, direct messages on Twitter, Instagram from my wife, from friends who aren't Jewish, from friends who are Jewish, from different Jewish influencers saying, I can't believe...
That you supported this guy, that you gave him a platform, that you made him look so good.
And the clips that they would send me would literally be me just asking a question and then Nick responding to the question for a minute or a minute and a half.
I never stated that I agreed with him.
I even pushed back a little bit on some things.
I never conceded.
I never celebrated anything that he said.
I literally just asked him questions like a journalist because I knew I didn't want to debate him and lose and make myself look like a fool and perpetuate his position, a position I'm not comfortable with, frankly.
And I didn't want to be competitive to this guy that I just met.
He comes in, he flies in to have a debate with Alex Jones.
I wanted him to warm up and feel friendly and comfortable here before he...
It's nerve-wracking to go on the Alex Jones show.
There's hundreds of thousands of listeners, if not millions of listeners.
I just wanted to ask him and get an understanding of what he believed about these issues.
And just by speaking with him and not smashing his head into the table, I proved to several people in my network that I was an intolerant, anti-Semitic Nazi sympathizer for some reason.
And so when I saw this post from Gavin McInnes, it did not surprise me that Candace Owens may have been fired.
It might have been the straw that broke the camel's back, this clip that we're going to show you some of.
This association might have been enough to just push Ben Shapiro over the edge, to just make minds and brains explode.
No, no, no. Go ahead. Go ahead, Matt.
matt infowars
Okay. Well, let's take a look at the clip and then let's get into how Mediate has kind of summed this up.
I've got a good summary of events here.
chase geiser
Sounds good. Can you please run the clip?
unidentified
I can't remember what number it is. If he is attacking you on any personal way, that doesn't mean it's okay for you to attack him.
You know better than that. Wow, wow.
chase geiser
They're so evil.
She goes, yeah, he's been attacking me for two years.
unidentified
Yeah, but you can't attack him back.
You know better than that.
You know better than that, you dumb boy.
tim pool
You don't know anything about our religion.
unidentified
If he was attacking you, then, well, that's something.
But you can't attack him back.
matt infowars
They're so rotten.
candace owens
No, I actually, everything I'm saying about it, I'm like, if this is holy, like, you know, selling butt plugs with your daughter, I don't know.
You're right. I think it's gross.
I think it's disgusting. And I do not, it's not the definition of holy in the Christian faith, is what I would say.
It's weird to me.
It's very weird. And this can be a difference in our religions, but by the way, your religion does not trump my religion.
So I think that you should respect the fact that when I say it's unholy, I am referring to my religion.
His relationship between him and his daughter is very creepy to me.
The sex podcast is very creepy to me.
The idea of sitting down and talking to your father about, you know...
Topics of sex in any regard is creepy to me.
And I do think that part of it, and this is where we get to the topic of where people perceive this, and they say, is this a form of Jew supremacy?
To say, suspend your Christianity because my Judaism matters more, is the feeling that I get when you say, you don't get to say it's an unholy rabbi.
Pornography is unholy, in my view.
You might disagree with that.
It is unholy. To Christians, the topic of pornography, peddling pornography, selling butt plugs, you know, the commercialization of pornography is unholy.
And I'm going to continue to call him unholy because that is what I deem him to be.
And I say that as a Christian.
chase geiser
So just to give you a little bit of context out there, there's been this ongoing dispute between Candace Owens and this rabbi who sells butt plugs with his daughter, apparently, online.
And there's been some audio that's been released of him using racial slurs.
I don't know if they're real or not, but it's been ongoing for at least a week now, back and forth.
And obviously, anytime you criticize someone who is Jewish on social media, especially in this current climate with this war going on between Israel and Gaza...
There is an army of people that will call you antisemitic.
There are organizations like the ADL which will do everything they can to undermine your integrity and your character.
And this is her having a conversation with another Jewish gentleman about the controversy between that rabbi who is selling butt plugs with his daughter.
Matt, you had a couple of things you wanted to mention?
matt infowars
Yeah, that's really exactly it.
On March 8th, Candace basically kind of had a rant where she is talking about a ring of basically powerful people in Hollywood who are Jewish.
And the rabbi that you're alluding to is Rabbi Shmuley Botich.
chase geiser
Botich? Botich?
matt infowars
Botich? Botich? Yeah, yeah.
Honestly, like, shame on his parents for naming him that, but, you know, whatever.
Anyway, that all goes down on the 8th, and then...
Last Wednesday, Rabbi Shmuley accused Owens of being an arch-anti-Semite who's inciting her Jew-hating followers to threaten and murder Jews and especially I mean, that is his misspelling, but maybe that's the way he says it.
And there's a nasty quote that, you know, he publishes some hate mail that he most likely got in his DMs, but it's a screenshot of someone threatening to knock him the F out and to, you know...
Make him cry like a B and they call him a J. Yeah.
chase geiser
So let me ask you this, man.
What is the deal with everyone using death threats as an excuse or a leverage to somehow hold someone else culpable?
Obviously, this is an issue that we're familiar with.
This is something that happens all the time, most notably recently with the lady behind libs of TikTok being accused of being culpable for bomb threats in schools or institutions because of her raping.
rhetoric about the trans community why is it that they can just use the crimes or sins or threats of one person as ammunition to attack a completely unrelated person who would explicitly not advocate any violence on behalf of the words or opinions that they share like this seems totally unfair to me i get death threats all the time i'm not blaming joe biden Thank you.
matt infowars
Sure, I would say that it's just the use of leveraging moral outrage.
This guy Rabbi Shmuley is connected enough to where he can use that leverage with people who are Candace Owens' superiors.
chase geiser
Yeah. Yeah.
So, let me ask you this.
matt infowars
Seems like a ring of really powerful guys.
chase geiser
Do you think that she was let go because Ben Shapiro is appalled with her political views?
Or do you think that they used that as an excuse to let her go because her show wasn't performing very well?
matt infowars
What I'm sure of is...
I don't think that that's the reason.
I don't think it'll ever be touted.
I mean, I know there'll be some people who tout it.
I would say it's like whenever you get rid of an employee who...
Uh, you know, you don't necessarily like him, right?
Uh, you did something bad that's a fireable offense, and therefore it's like, uh, okay, yeah.
You know, it makes the trigger that much easier to pull, I would say, her beef with Ben Shapiro.
But again, I would say that the Daily Wire, again, does, they were overt in saying, and Candace has had a beef with Ben for a while now.
chase geiser
And basically ever since October 7th.
matt infowars
Right. And I would say that the Daily Wire understands that they make money off of Candace's opinions.
And if there is something controversial, it may seem bad to people from the outside looking in.
But from the inside, that controversy generates traffic.
Mm-hmm. Right. So she was useful until perhaps traffic has died off and now she's just kind of annoying and she's picking fights with people.
I would have to say, like, you know...
Hey, let's take, for example, segments two and three today, right?
You weren't picking fights with Tim Pool, right?
Candace Owens has no problems picking fights.
So if you're the head of a company and you've got a subordinate who's picking fights without, you know, external people, at some point you probably do have to kind of say, hey, listen, this is, you know, bad for business.
But, you know, it probably went on for a certain amount of time.
unidentified
It was good for business until it wasn't.
chase geiser
Then she's gone. You know, I've got mixed feelings about Ben Shapiro.
Obviously, he's a very bright guy.
I don't like some of the things he said about Steve Bannon or Breitbart.
I don't like his position. High dislikeability factor.
Yeah, I don't like some of the things he says about Trump.
He's somebody I agree with probably 70% of the time.
Maybe less. I don't know.
But generally, I respect what he has to say, especially around the legal issues, because I think he is an astute attorney, constitutional attorney, knowledgeable in that realm.
But what's so funny to me, I believe his first book, I could be wrong about this, but I believe his first book was about the problems of pornography.
And so for Candace Owens to be let go in the context of this conflict with this Rabbi who's selling butt plugs with his daughter.
matt infowars
But she's also again...
She's alleging that...
I think that she's not doing a good enough job of saying that it's not all Jews, right?
Like, you have to... If you're in the media and you're in her position, you have to probably preface everything, every type of criticism, not all Jews, not all Jews, not all...
chase geiser
Maybe she has, and those clips just don't show up.
matt infowars
It could be. It could be.
But what I would say is, yeah, somewhere it's getting personal for someone.
chase geiser
It's so funny to me being faced with these things because this is a topic that's come up a number of times among a number of different friends and coworkers for me.
How growing up in the 90s, granted I lived in a 95% white community.
There was never any talk about race or stereotypes or anti-Semitism, except maybe an inappropriate joke because we watched an R-rated movie when we were only 13 years old and we just thought it was fun.
I don't know. There was no serious racism that I ever encountered.
And it's odd to me how...
Come to the age of 25 having experienced virtually no racism whatsoever, either instilled in me toward other people or upon me by other people.
And now we're at this place as a culture, nation, civilization, whatever you want to call it, where anti-Semitism is a hot-button issue again?
As if it's 1933 where there's racial tension again between white people and every other minority and there's...
Tension among genders and sexual orientations again for the first time in my entire life.
I just don't understand how it is that these issues, these problems that seemed, at least maybe I was being naive, seemed to me to have been solved problems, have resurfaced out of nowhere.
And maybe we can take calls in the third hour and callers can say, but I don't harbor any Any judgment or prejudice about people because of their immutable characteristics.
Obviously there are stereotypes associated and maybe there would be assumptions that I would make about a different person based on the way they look or what religion they are or the way that they carry themselves just because our minds as human beings are designed to put things and people in categories so we can navigate through information in an efficient way rapidly.
But I'm not a person who just thinks that there's something inherently wrong with all people of any given race or immutable characteristic.
I guess I have a problem with certain religions inherently, but that's not really an immutable characteristic because you can change religions.
You can't change the immutable characteristic.
That's the definition. You can't mute it.
And I just don't understand...
Why this is back?
It's mind-boggling to me that any criticism of Israel is automatically labeled as anti-Semitism generally on a wide scale.
It's just simply not true.
No nation or government or organization is inherently representative of every individual in a race.
Why is it that this conversation about white privilege has come up?
And as I was leaving college, they were starting to make us, if we were any sort of a student leadership organization, like student government or others, they were making us go to diversity training and hear these conversations about microaggressions and how it might be inappropriate to assume that the Asian kid sitting next to you knows the answer to the math problem.
So don't ask him if he knows the answer to the math problem.
That was literally one of the examples that was brought up in one of these diversity trainings that I had to go to as a student, a 23-year-old man about ready to graduate from college, never really having a racist thought in my life.
And so, is it just because it's politically convenient to sow this division?
It's confusing to me how evil and reckless and harmful it is.
It seems to me that it ties directly into one of the points that I was trying to make earlier about this Republican spending proposal, where we have these two parties that act like they're completely different things.
But really what they want to do is exploit us and screw us over.
We have these two political parties that act like they're trying to solve racial issues or systemic injustice.
But really, they have every incentive from a power standpoint to catalyze these problems as much as possible.
The Democrats have to perpetuate the notion, regardless of whether it's true or not, that there is a serious racial problem or bigotry problem in this country because that's how they get their support.
That's how they get their votes.
And if they can convince people that because of their race or gender or religion or culture or ethnicity, that that is the reason for all of their ails, then those people will rally behind this political group.
And this political group, namely the Democratic Party, has no incentive to actually solve the problem because if they solve the problem, then they de-platform themselves.
It's like with NATO.
NATO didn't actually have an incentive to end the Cold War because they knew that ending the Cold War was a risk to the very existence of NATO altogether.
And when the USSR collapsed and the Cold War ended and Russia became Russia again instead of the USSR, for some reason, NATO found reasons to continue to exist and it exists to this day, drawing in new members, trying to wage war in a more explicit way with Russia than ever, even trying to wage war in a more explicit way with Russia than ever, even since the purpose of its very founding was manifested in the world, it seems to me that what we're experiencing, maybe this is an epiphany, maybe this is
It seems to me that what we're experiencing is an entire political class that always promises that it's going to solve a problem.
That is the source of its power, this promise.
And once the problem is solved, all their power goes away.
They know that so they can never solve the problem or they have to make it up.
I mean... Every time the Democrats have solved a problem or addressed a platform issue in a major way whether it was abortion rights that they pushed through for so long whether it was gay marriage that they pushed through on the federal level every time they solve a major problem That is a major part of their platform for their constituents, a major policy point.
They always have to go to the next extreme.
So it was gay rights, then gay people in this country were given the right at the federal level to get married, and then it's trans rights.
So nobody was really talking about trans rights 10 years ago when they were fighting for gay rights, but oh no, we solved that problem.
Now we have to create another issue and add another letter to this community so this community still supports us even though we solved their problem.
And then now that they're going to start solving this trans rights issue, that's why you start hearing murmurings and rumors around maps, minor attracted persons, and you see presentations and you read dissertations from these leftist academics about how minor attracted persons are simply people who are unfortunately A different sexual orientation and it's not a mental illness and it's not a perversion and it's not evil and cruel and immoral and unlawful.
This is just how they are.
It's an immutable characteristic.
So every time they solve a problem, they have to create or manufacture a more extreme problem to rally behind and perpetuate in order to sustain their power.
And so there's never going to be a solution to any of these issues.
There's always got to be racism.
There's always got to be bigotry.
There's always got to be this right and left fight.
That's why our politicians just sell us out.
And that's why they've had to team up.
Because frankly, the job is so difficult that if they actually fought against each other, then how would they guarantee their continued power forever?
The Republicans and the Democrats have conspired together to perpetuate our problems indefinitely, make them worse so they can get as much power as possible, and there's nothing we can do to stop it until we realize it and stand up against it.
More on the other side, folks.
Great segment. Fascinating to talk about this.
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Check it out, please. Now, I know that immigration has been a topic of conversation since the Biden administration has ceased to acknowledge that there's such a thing as illegal immigration and allowed the invasion of our country by armed people, unarmed people, people from all over the world alike.
No problem. And if they get arrested for doing crimes here, oftentimes they are just released and back into the public with a court date 10 years from now.
And they're committing these crimes multiple times.
But the other more insidious aspect of this illegal immigration is the democratic strategy to create a one-party state here in the United States of America.
Now, a lot of people on the surface simply think, okay, what's happening is these illegal migrants are coming into the United States and these lefty states and cities are passing these laws and making it possible for these illegal immigrants to register to vote and participate in our elections.
Now, that may be a problem, but that is not the greatest risk to our republic.
The greatest strength, the long-term strategy among the Democrats, among the leftists regarding this mass invasion of our country, is that the Republican states like Texas and others, in representing their constituents who do not like this invasion, We'll ship these illegal immigrants to blue states, blue cities, sanctuary cities.
Now, on the surface, that sounds great because, hey, coming to Texas, you're not staying here.
Get out of my state. I'm going to send you to San Francisco or Los Angeles or Seattle or Portland or New York or Chicago.
What you have to keep in mind is regardless of whether these illegal immigrants are Vote or not, they will be counted in the census in 2030.
They were counted in 2020 in many states as well.
It was a major topic of controversy.
And if they are counted in the census, that means that blue states will have a disproportionate representation in both the Electoral College, which determines who the President of the United States will be, And in the House of Representatives, the more people who live in your state, the more representatives you get.
And it doesn't matter if you're a citizen or not.
It's just based on the number of people breathing in the state.
That's why shipping them to these sanctuary cities is actually conducive to the democratic strategy to create a one-party state because we are disproportionately empowering blue states in our House of Representatives and in the White House when we do this because of the way they're going to be counted.
So let's see this clip here. This is clip number two.
Benny Johnson talking about this insidious immigration electoral college strategy.
benny johnson
Do you agree, Elon Musk made huge news this week posting a video about effectively the scheme to create a new political class for the Democrat Party through illegal immigration and to allow these criminal aliens to vote then in the 2024 election.
That's part of the plan.
You agree with that. That's baked in.
stephen miller
There's broadly construed, there are three immediate We're good to go.
It's because of illegal immigration.
Two, there's no citizenship verification to vote in American elections.
Very few people realize this.
If you ask for it, you get a form, and it says, are you a citizen, yes or no?
If you check the yes box, that is it.
Every state that has tried to validate that, and the federal government does zero validation, has been blocked successfully in court now going on for more than 20 years.
This is a true statement without exaggeration.
There's not a single state in this country Where illegal aliens cannot vote simply by checking a box.
And as you can imagine, the potential for massive fraud there is increased exponentially with mass mail-in voting.
So if even a small percentage of Biden's illegal aliens fill out mail-in ballots, fill out ballots that go into the drop boxes, etc., that would be outcome determinative in races up and down the ballot.
Now, all it would take to stop this would be for the House To attach to a must-pass bill, legislation requiring citizenship verification to vote in 2024.
And the third thing is that as soon as they have the power and ability to do so, they would pass a law making all illegal aliens into full voting citizens.
Had it not been for the fact that Joe Manchin Joe Manchin is indeed a hardcore liberal.
He's voted against us on almost everything of importance, but he did one thing that was noteworthy, which is that he refused to eliminate the filibuster.
If he had voted to end the filibuster, They would have, in the first month of Biden's presidency, passed a full Citizenship and Voting Rights Act for all illegal aliens in the country.
And they had the votes to do it, but for the fact that Manchin didn't agree to waive the filibuster.
Manchin, by the way, he supports amnesty.
He would have voted for the bill.
He just didn't vote to get rid of the filibuster.
So those three things are the primary reasons why Democrats won an open border.
There are many others. We don't have time to go into them all, but those are the three big ones.
chase geiser
Absolutely crazy what's happening to our country.
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mika brzezinski
The play for Democrats and for the Biden campaign...
I mean, I thought the, you know, family picture with the candidates was pretty funny and powerful.
I still don't understand.
I'm wondering if you have any insight into what RFK thinks he's doing or does he know what he's doing and is that what he wants to do?
But back to what the Biden campaign should be doing.
jen psaki
Well, I don't want to be in RFK Jr.'s brain where he doesn't believe in science and all sorts of other things.
But I will say, Mika, I was nodding along as Tom was just talking.
I think this is the biggest challenge.
There is, unquestionably, Trump has broad support in his base, as we've just been discussing, and we've seen that play out in the primary.
That's the only piece, though, we know at this point.
He has problems among independents and problems with an expanded electorate.
But these third-party candidates are a huge, huge, huge problem, and there's a number of them.
If you look at RFK Jr., it's the name recognition issue, as Tom was just talking about.
And there are still states in this country — obviously, I mean, Georgia is one of them, I will name — where the Kennedy name is beloved, right?
Right? Where people may just not still.
Where they may just not know a lot about the fact that he is an anti-vaxxer who's a conspiracy theorist.
They don't know that yet.
So this is something...
There is an aggressive effort that the campaign has been working with the Democratic National Committee on to run on this.
But it needs to be broad.
People need to be shouting it from the rooftops.
Because this is one of the biggest threats to Joe Biden being re-elected, is these third-party candidates.
If you look at Michigan, Mika, and I know Alyssa Slotkin is going to be on Later, I almost called her senator.
Congresswoman Alyssa Slotkin is going to be on later.
Michigan is a state where RFK, I think, is polling at 10%, right?
And so this is a place where Joe Biden needs to win, and RFK Jr.
is making a real threat to that.
So it's good we're talking about it.
It is a real threat. They're aware of it, but more needs to be done, and more people need to be talking about it and aware.
chase geiser
Interesting that she would say that.
Now, I could be mistaken.
It has been some time since I have looked at the data, but the last time I did a deep dive into this issue of RFK was around the time that it was discovered that he would be unable to be the Democratic candidate on several of the ballots.
So his campaign made the decision...
To run him as an independent.
And when I did a deep dive and looked into the details of his campaign at the time, and I believe this is still true, though I could be mistaken, so let me know in the X space once we get started if you know something different or updated.
The majority of his donors were former Trump supporters, not former Biden donors or voters.
And it seems to me very likely, for a number of reasons, That RFK is a much greater threat to Donald Trump than he is to Joe Biden.
Now, I know he's traditionally considered to be a Democrat, but he is an anti-vaxxer.
And I don't think he even likes that term, so I don't want to mischaracterize him.
But he's somebody who's branded as an anti-vaxxer.
At least in the mind of the voters, he is what you would call a, quote, anti-vaxxer.
Done a lot of research on the issue, has a lot of problems with a lot of the vaccines.
Not necessarily all vaccines, but a lot of the major ones, even way before the COVID issue.
And you have to keep in mind that many Republicans or former Trump supporters or former Trump voters are wary about voting for him again, not only because of his creation of the vaccines through Operation Warp Speed, but because of his doubling down on the vaccines through Operation Warp Speed.
And I know that he isn't responsible for the mandates that happened.
And I know that there are all sorts of ways to poke holes in that problem that people have with Trump.
But if you're considering who is pro-vaccine versus who is anti-vaccine in today's climate...
The pro-vaxxers are the Democrats.
The anti-vaxxers are a significant portion of the Republicans and the Trump voters.
And so those who are most adamantly opposed and disgusted by what happened with these COVID vaccines...
Are going to be former Trump voters that are going to be likely to vote for RFK because he's an alternative to both Biden and Trump and he is vehemently opposed to the vaccines and the mandates and aware of all the health repercussions and problems and symptoms and frankly the lethality seemingly of these vaccines.
And so when Saki comes out, keep in mind, she is a professional liar.
She is very good at lying.
She was so much better than Karine Jean-Pierre.
It's like the NBA versus Little League or something.
It's astounding how good she is at what she does.
She's coming out and saying that RFK may be a threat to Biden.
I think she knows better.
I think it's almost as if she's running cover for the fact that RFK is a plant by the Democrats to divide and split the Trump vote to ensure that either Joe Biden or whoever the official Democratic candidate is will be ushered in and swoop in.
Keep in mind that RFK doesn't have to win any states at all.
He just has to pull enough votes away from Trump to ensure that the Democratic candidate...
Wins these states and these electoral votes.
It's as simple as that.
And the other thing that's so bizarre about him to me is...
You can get into all the details about the birthday parties and the holiday parties that he had where he was checking people for vaccinations at the door or...
Testing them for COVID at the door because his wife wanted them to.
You can get into all the details about the bizarre behavior around his former wife's funeral and moving her body a day after the photo shoot on the family plot and how she hung herself, hanged herself, excuse me, in the barn.
You can get into all these weird details, but the super bizarre thing to me about this is you have a Kennedy who knows that JFK was assassinated by the deep state, knows that the CIA was involved, And then he hires his son's wife, his brand new daughter-in-law, I believe, my memory serves, to manage his campaign.
She's former CIA. She got married to his son, I think after a year of knowing each other, it was like a one-year engagement.
So why is RFK checking people for vaccination at his holiday parties?
Why is he moving bodies around in cemeteries after photo shoots?
Why is he constantly perpetuating this anti-vax mentality, this anti-CIA mentality vocally, but then hiring somebody who worked for the CIA to manage his campaign?
And not only hiring this woman to do this, but having her married into the family.
It just seems like he himself is the deep state, that he's a plant that is intentionally, strategically being run in this election for the sole purpose of splitting the vote against Donald Trump among former Trump supporters who are wary about supporting Trump again after what happened with the strategically being run in this election for the sole purpose of And the fact that Donald Trump won't admit that there's a problem with the vaccine. - Yes.
I love Donald Trump.
I'm voting for him. I'm happy to vote for him.
He's by far and away a better candidate than any of the other options.
I think he was a great president for the first three years of his last term.
And I think that he has the potential, maybe our only hope, in fact, to save America itself from the New World Order, from the globalists, from the one state, deep state, uniparty mechanism in place.
It's trying to manifest itself and just create total world tyranny and dominance.
I think Donald Trump's our hero there.
But it's certainly a vulnerability that he's doubling down on these vaccines.
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And it seems to me that in the face of this info war, this new world order, and this race for the presidency, which the election is definitely going to be, they're going to try to steal it again.
This is just another one of those shenanigans with RFK where he's actually working for them and they have to pretend that he's not because it's starting to get a little too obvious that maybe he is.
That's just, that's what I think.
So we're coming up with a break in about 50 seconds here.
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Welcome back to the American Journal-Altice.
chase geiser
I am your host this morning, Chase Geiser, filling in for the great Harrison Smith.
I've spent a lot of time talking about Harrison.
This morning, in light of the episode of Timcast last night, Harrison, I am told that you are on the line from the airport.
Are you able to hear me, sir? Yes, yeah, I'm here in the airport, man.
harrison smith
Thanks for filling in for me.
Thank you so much for the... The kind words this morning.
It was fun to wake up and flip on American Journal and hear you praising me perhaps more than I deserve.
But yeah, I really appreciate it.
And I just wanted to call in.
It's been weird to me because I think I have this strange kind of super confidence where I don't even notice that I'm being insulted.
We did the show yesterday.
Tim got a little bit heated, but it just didn't even really...
I didn't even really notice it that much, really.
And then afterwards, I'm looking at all the comments, and I walked all over Harrison and all this stuff, and I start feeling my pride, start to get a little bit wounded.
And I was just sort of torn of wanting to, like, obviously I don't want to burn a bridge, but at the same time, again, my pride's kind of hurting.
unidentified
I'm like, what? Screw that.
I didn't get walked all over.
I'd let him do that.
But anyway, I just wanted to address it.
harrison smith
And really, the thing that it's made me think about is the strength of Infowars is not necessarily in that we are just the best at predicting things, although we are absolutely, or that we have super secret sources.
unidentified
We just reason things out.
harrison smith
In a way that anybody could if they have a clear-eyed vision of things.
I think the strength of InfoWars is that we're all very normal dudes.
unidentified
This is what I was thinking about.
harrison smith
Alex Jones, very normal dude.
unidentified
Owen Troyer, very normal.
Probably the normalest out of all of us.
Just like, love sports, hanging out.
You and I, I mean, we just have kids.
We hang out with normies.
harrison smith
We're just, we're a lot more connected to just the average person than I think a lot of people in this sphere are.
And I think There's a danger of someone like Tim who sort of works all the time and sort of has a compound where he does everything and spends all this time.
And he gets this concept of America that's just off-kilter.
It's just not in line with what the reality is on the ground when you just go to a sports game or go to a restaurant and talk to people that you don't know.
And I think when you do that, you realize how much work we have to do.
In that there's not going to be a spontaneous nationwide uprising.
Most of the people that we see in our daily lives still have no concept of how far things have gone, how bad things are getting.
The New World Order does a very good job of keeping the effects of their policies concealed from the masses for the most part.
And then when they're affected, they divert the cause of the effect to something else, right?
So people might realize that the economy is Not doing well, but they think it's because capitalism bad, not because it's a deliberate policy of dismantling the economy on purpose to replace it with something better.
unidentified
So yeah, I don't know.
harrison smith
I just wanted to call in and say thank you for your coverage this morning.
And there was one clip that I posted last night, but again, I just sort of, after thinking about it, I was sort of rude on Twitter, and I just deleted those tweets because I just didn't want to You know, come off like that.
But it was just funny because, you know, we have this long argument, which again, I don't even really see as an argument.
You know, Tim is sort of presenting a conditional hypothetical that I get.
I get the hypothetical. I'm just like, yeah, but that's not going to happen.
Because the way that I tend to look at things is through the eyes of the people that are doing it.
I like to imagine things as if I'm the man behind the curtain.
And when you do that, you know, you just sort of laugh at this idea that, oh, there's going to be seven dudes in Oklahoma that are going to do an area of denial against the federal government.
And so that was my whole point.
unidentified
About 20 minutes after the argument sort of settles...
There's a clip of Tim basically coming to the exact same conclusion I was going for in the first place.
chase geiser
Stick with us, Harrison. We're going to break in eight seconds.
Hang on for 60 seconds because I want to follow this up on the other side Ain't got time A perfect song to bring in this segment as Harrison is waiting in the airport to come back to the InfoWars headquarters here in Austin, Texas.
Harrison, you know, I didn't even take a position until the second time I watched the interaction between you and Tim on the actual debate that you were having because the first time, and maybe it's because we're buddies, I was so focused on just the ad hominem and the rudeness.
And like I said at the very beginning of the show today, I liked him.
I think that he's a genuinely good person.
I don't think he's a grifter.
And I don't necessarily even believe that he means to be rude.
But it just came off that way to me.
And so my question for you is, was I the only one that was blowing up your texts while you were on air?
Or were you met with a litany of messages when the show was over?
harrison smith
Yeah, I was getting a lot of stuff during the show and after as well.
And I don't really have anything against him either.
I just think, you know, he's been predicting imminent civil war for the last six years.
So, you know, he's doing that again, which, again, it would honestly be great if what he was predicting came to pass.
But I'm just trying to look at reality and, again, look at things from the perspective of the people that are doing all of this and understanding that all of it is on purpose, more or less, right?
Yesterday, you know, saying something about Basically insinuating that the federal government couldn't control the border.
It's like, of course they could control the border.
It's a choice they're making not to control the border.
chase geiser
It used to be a lot smaller and under control, the federal government and the border.
unidentified
Yeah. Yeah.
harrison smith
And, you know, again, I really am trying not to be rude, but it's like, I guess, you know, I didn't even notice he was like insulting my intelligence or like he said I'm like not well read or don't know history.
It's like, You know, what am I going to get insulted by that?
It's like a midget calling me short.
unidentified
It's like, okay, great.
I'm not going to be offended by that.
chase geiser
I'm just going to laugh it off. Yeah, I don't think he could have handled it any better.
Your composure was just all there.
He was the one that came off unhinged, and the live chat reflected that.
And I don't want to be rude either, because I liked him, and we're on the same team when push comes to shove.
But I totally agree with your analysis that...
Things have to get a lot worse before civil war happens.
There are countries all over the world where things are way worse and there's not uprisings.
People don't understand how much a people will tolerate from a government before they decide that the pains of civil war are less painful than the pains of tyranny.
harrison smith
Exactly. And again, he had this hypothetical where it's like, If enough spontaneous uprisings take place, the federal government can't handle them all.
Magical uprisings.
I wish it would, honestly.
unidentified
I mean, it would be great if everybody just decided all of a sudden to do an area of denial for the federal government.
harrison smith
And I even talked about ways to do that for sheriffs.
There are constitutional mechanisms by which that can happen, and I encourage people to do more to keep the feds out of their lives.
But again, it's about understanding reality and understanding what normal people are.
Are seeing in their day-to-day life how the actions of the federal government are affecting them and where they put that blame.
And, you know, again, he goes in.
It's an hour and 24 minutes exactly into the video where, you know, I mentioned the thing about them shutting down farms in Europe, even though everybody's against it, but they're still doing it.
When the farmers protest, they send out police with rubber bullets to shoot them and shut the whole thing down.
And, you know, Tim goes, okay, so, you know, it sounds like all this is being done on purpose, and the collapse is happening by design, so they can, you know, just destroy the current order.
And it's like, yeah, dude, you just spent an hour yelling at me for saying that, and now you suddenly come to exactly the same conclusion I was trying to express the whole time.
So, again, I didn't, you know, I didn't even feel insulted.
You know, Chase, I don't argue.
I just say what reality is and try to get it through to people.
You know, when people disagree with me, I don't like to take it personally or like, well, no, no, that's not true.
What I'm saying is true. I'm just like, look, dude, this is the way it is.
This is, you know, the state of current affairs.
It's not about you doing area of denial services in some rural town in Oklahoma that's going to fix things.
It's about taking over the mechanisms of the government and turning it towards its intended purpose, which is to serve the people of the United States.
And I think if that doesn't happen, then we've got a long...
Painful road ahead in the mode of something like South Africa, where things just get worse and worse incrementally, but never enough personally to, like you said, have people go through the pain and suffering and risk of going up against the federal government, which is extremely powerful, whether you like it or not.
That's not to say the government is all-powerful, it's God, there's no point in resisting it.
The point is that the average person It has to take the power of the federal government into consideration, especially in the light of things like January 6th, where you can see how effective they can not only round up the people that peacefully stood up against them, but do it in a way where 50% of the country is cheering them on in the process.
We're still in the information war phase of this conflict, and until we either achieve victory in that, or Again, spontaneously and magically, everybody realizes what's going on all of a sudden.
We've got to continue to try to tell people what's going on because the average person you talk to is watching sports and watching Netflix and don't know or don't care about the things that we talk about on a daily basis on InfoWars.
chase geiser
Well, let's take a look at this from a historical perspective, because I actually do understand that you are well-versed in history.
And let's look at just examples of when internal uprisings in the context of an operating government were successful, namely the Russian Revolution and the Chinese Communist Revolution.
So there was already a fairly well-functioning government in place in both those instances.
The people successfully rose up against that government and established a new form of government internally.
This isn't a revolution of independence where we're breaking up with an existing government.
It's not a civil war where we're going to have our own government and they're going to have their own government, the original country, like our American Civil War.
Instances where there was enough of an uprising within a country to overthrow the same government while maintaining the same people and culture was just a different institution in place.
I mean, how is what happened in those two instances, namely Russia and China, what does that say about this debate that you and Tim had regarding the nature of spontaneous uprising in America and how it would play out?
harrison smith
Well, again, especially if you look at the Russian Revolution, there's nothing really spontaneous about it.
And also all of these instances, and I know Matt brought this up as well, if you talk about the Arab Spring, have massive external international input and help and coordination.
I mean, heck, did Germany sent Lenin in an armored train car into Russia to help coordinate and lead the revolution there?
Without that, I doubt you have the same outcome.
In the same way, there were years of sort of underground plotting and organizing and workers' riots and unionizing, and then the unions were taken over.
I mean, these things happen over time.
And then in the case of the Arab Spring, obviously, you have massive coordination by the CIA and others.
Same thing in Syria, right, where you've got the rebels, the...
chase geiser
I'll just call them what they are, ISIS, being trained and armed by the CIA. That was a state-backed revolution, not grassroots.
It was just our state-backing.
harrison smith
Right. Right. None of that.
And so the point is that as it exists now, Tim keeps using the term spot-cleaning to reference a little flare-up here and the government goes and shuts it down, a little flare-up here and the government goes and shuts it down.
Well, that's exactly what's happening.
Now, again, if you could...
If you get everybody to rise up at once, then the federal government wouldn't have the ability to handle it all at once, but that's not the way things work without outside intervention and coordination.
It would be like maybe a militia starts up and Does what he was talking about, an area of denial thing where they don't let feds into a county in Oklahoma.
And that county gets Waco-ed, I hate to let you know.
Like, that's just the situation that we're in.
unidentified
Again, it's not to say, oh, nobody should ever stand up against the federal government.
harrison smith
I think you should do it in a way that is intelligent and smart and planning for the long term and legal as much as possible and political above all else.
And I think if we can take control of these mechanisms of government and stop the people that currently have them And are using them to destroy the United States, if instead we could have people in there that are using them for, again, their intended purpose of serving the people of the United States,
then there's no need to fantasize about this mass uprising area of denial, rural militia concept that, again, I think he underestimates how most people feel about that type of stuff.
And I think most people, if they heard That there was some extreme...
You know, the way it would be portrayed is extremist racist militia attempts to take over Oklahoma town, and the U.S. government heroically puts it down.
I mean, the fact that they got away with Waco 30 years ago, and still to this day, most people, even with the Netflix documentary, even with the Netflix series...
chase geiser
Or the JFK assassination.
Everybody knows the CIA was in some way involved.
harrison smith
Exactly. Exactly.
So if you ask a normal person today, like, Was Waco warranted?
They'll just be like, oh, that crazy pedophile guy that burned himself?
unidentified
They still buy that story.
harrison smith
Again, you've got to simply recognize the coordinated, deliberate fashion of what's going on in America right now from the border to the crime wave.
All these things are interconnected, intertwined, deliberate, and with a goal in mind, which is to collapse Americans' confidence in their own government in order to impose a new form of government that does not even pay lip service to the electoral will of the American people.
And again, I think maybe Infowars, we have a better view of this because we...
Sort of either just because we naturally do or because we make a point to you.
I know I make a point to you. Just go out into normal life and talk to normal people and just get a gauge on what the average person is seeing in the world.
And when you do that, it can be, for one thing, kind of blackpilling because you realize how, and again, I hate to be rude, but how ignorant most people are to the reality of the situation.
And you realize how much work we have to do.
Again, that's not to say that The government's all-powerful.
unidentified
Resistance is futile.
harrison smith
Resistance is necessary, but it's necessary in an organized, coordinated, intelligent, and long-term fashion.
So, anyway, I had a good time, and I left the show sort of being like, yeah, he was kind of rude, but, you know, whatever.
It was just a conversation. And then, I don't know, seeing how everybody...
chase geiser
I think he thought you were patronizing him when you used the word magical, and he was compensating for that until he realized that you didn't mean to patronize him, that you really meant magical in the spontaneous sense, not magical in the ridiculous sense.
unidentified
Well, to be honest, I sort of meant it in both.
harrison smith
The thing that he's suggesting happen is nonsensical.
It's magical. It's not something that's actually going to happen, so why I mean, again, the dude was trying to buy a van to go around documenting the Civil War in 2020.
So, you know, that was four years ago.
It hasn't happened yet.
I get the sort of magical thinking, wishful thinking type of idea that he thinks, okay, everybody is seeing what I'm seeing.
unidentified
So everybody gets how big of a deal this is.
harrison smith
Everybody's going to rise up against this.
And the reality is one out of 100 people feel that way.
chase geiser
Well, the thing that blew my mind, Harrison, was when I was watching that clip of the migrants rushing over the Border Patrol people, that was the crux of your conversation.
That was the story that started this debate between you and Tim.
My thought today as I was watching it, covering your conversation in this mob in El Paso, is if the Border Patrol agents aren't going to shoot those people, then why would rural Americans just rise up and shoot illegal immigrants all over the world at the same time?
I mean, you would think after what we know from the Stanford prison experiments and these other...
Psychological test, MKUltra, everything we know about psychology in a uniform, you'd think of all people that it would have been Border Patrol that would have opened fire on those people.
And if they're not standing up against them, in the face of it, when their lives are actually under threat, then why would anybody think that a civil war is going to start over?
Things have to get so much harder.
harrison smith
Well, exactly. It has to affect you and your family in particular.
And even then, you know, there's the guy in Arizona who shot an illegal immigrant that was on his land, crossed the border, and had a gun pointed at him.
And he's being charged with second-degree murder and is on trial right now.
So it's like, you know, until this affects people in their personal life, They're not going to react.
And the thing is that the globalists understand that.
The people in charge understand that.
That's why they're, you know, doing everything they can to provide for the illegal immigrants so the average person doesn't experience the pressure of having 10 million people suddenly living on their streets.
There's a reason why they're building the camps just outside of town or in big parks.
It's so that, you know, the pressure...
They're very good at sort of containing that pressure.
And directing that pressure and keeping the pressure at a certain level to where people are sort of maybe mad and uncomfortable and pissed off, but not enough to actually do something about it.
Because, yeah, again, you know, everybody recognizes at this point, you've got the Capitol Police with new offices all over the country.
unidentified
You've got the FBI and the DHS and the NSA and the CIA and the da-da-da.
harrison smith
You know, you've got this massive array of organizations that will hunt you ruthlessly down if you dare to even suggest, you know, something like January 6th or, you know, vigilante justice or whatever's.
So everybody sort of recognizes that.
And it's not going to happen spontaneously.
And right now, we still have the political option available.
And as long as that's the case, and that, hey, that may be something that's dangled in front of us to stop us from doing anything extra political.
But for now, the political option is still there.
We still have a chance to regain control of this country, to reestablish just sensible governance, and to put a stop to all of this until it gets significantly worse.
You're not going to see spontaneous uprisings.
And anyway, man, I don't want to take up any more time of the show on this.
I just wanted to call and say thank you for your support.
And thank you to all the viewers and listeners and commenters.
This was really fun.
And, you know, I've Love to do it again.
Maybe I'll be more aggressive next time.
Thank you so much for letting me sort of air this out because it was, again, sort of a weird experience the way I experienced it and then getting out and seeing the way everybody else seems to have interpreted what had happened.
So I really appreciate it and keep up the great work.
I've been loving the show so far.
chase geiser
Absolutely, Harrison. Always an honor and a pleasure to speak with you, particularly an honor to sit in this chair while you're out.
I thank you so much.
I'm so honored and privileged that you trust me with the show while you're gone.
And frankly, man, and I'm not just saying this because we're buddies and we know each other.
I'm so proud of you, the way you handled that last night.
You held your composer in a high-speed chase, and it was awesome.
So I'm looking forward to seeing you when you get back.
Travel safely. I know it's nerve-wracking to be traveling.
We're going to go straight to the X Spaces.
I don't know if anybody has lined up or requested to speak.
matt infowars
Hey, okay, so I've been hanging out in the space here.
Looks like we've got one of our other great guest hosts here, Christan T. Harris.
chase geiser
Oh, awesome. Christan, always a pleasure to speak with you, man.
matt infowars
Christan, I just added you as a speaker.
Go ahead and unmute your mic and let's hear what's on your radar.
kristan t harris
Hey, thanks for taking my call, Chase.
Always great to talk to you here on the show.
I appreciate you taking my call.
And Harrison Smith, man, what a rock star.
I always felt ridicule and best defense for those not clever enough to defend their own opinion.
And I've never had a quality conversation with somebody that uses that hominins.
Nothing against Tim Pool because, you know, we're all in this fight together.
But having a civil debate and a civil conversation and trying to listen to both points and letting listeners make the best decision for them is the way to handle things.
You're not going to Or, you know, ridicule your way into convincing people that your way is right or anything like that.
But I wanted to basically call and bring a viewpoint on the Civil War.
I think this is going to be fought way differently.
The way we're seeing it is economically.
We're seeing it through the food.
We're seeing it through information because they've learned throughout history that if they take it to the streets, there's a lot more of us.
There's a lot more of us who are well-armed and a lot more of us That understand what's happening now due to the permeation of information and the ability for us to access it very easily.
And Harrison Smith did a wonderful job last night maintaining his composure and showing what information is really about and providing that information.
And I just wanted to say that kudos to him.
And if anything, I think that Harrison looked great on the broadcast and it's a great representation of what you guys are and what we are here at Infowars as listeners.
chase geiser
Absolutely. Absolutely. He held his composure.
He acted like an adult and a professional.
And I know that sounds like we're bashing Tim Pool this whole time.
Just because I think that he could have handled things better yesterday doesn't mean I disrespect the guy as old.
His accomplishments are astounding.
I think nine times out of ten he's right on most issues.
And I know that he's a good person because I know enough people that know him personally that I believe in Tim Pool.
But I got to stand up for my boy Harrison when he gets treated like that.
I mean, that was just uncalled for. Well, right.
kristan t harris
And listen, we all have those shows where we want to get defensive or play the what-if game.
And I think Harrison was right also.
The what-if game is playing imaginary world.
It's like we don't know. There's no facts.
It could happen. Anything could happen for that matter.
And what we're doing when we play the what-if game is kind of projecting.
And that's where we make We're good to go.
You know, I don't know why it happened.
It just seemed real bizarre and it was a unique experience.
And, you know, who knows what the YouTube gods do over there.
But it's interesting.
It's interesting nonetheless.
So I just wanted to call in and give Harrison some support and say that I was really proud of that experience.
And, you know, Tim puts on a great show.
But, you know, there's a lot of shows that are growing.
And American Journal is one of them.
And thank you for taking my call.
chase geiser
Appreciate it. Absolutely, Christon.
Thank you so much for chiming in. Always a pleasure to speak with you.
Matt, do we have anybody else lined up?
We have a couple minutes left before we go to break.
matt infowars
Of course. Looks like...
Adding a speaker right now.
chase geiser
No problem. I understand.
matt infowars
Sometimes it takes a minute. Ben Weinberg.
Oh, great. Ben Weinberg is another new Spaces participant who is new here.
Go ahead and unmute your mic, Ben.
unidentified
Welcome, Ben. Yeah, thank you very much.
By the way, I just want to first listen so I know what subjects you're talking about.
And then I want to also engage in the space.
chase geiser
Absolutely. Well, it says on your X profile that you're living in the heart of a volcano.
unidentified
What is that like? He's gone.
chase geiser
Ben Weinberg is gone. It's very hot.
unidentified
It's hot? No, no, no.
I'm here. No, I was searching. No.
No, it's very hot.
But it's very nice, though. I mean, I'm living there without all those, you know, people that are Sort of annoying.
I try not to be, how do you say, negative, but when you live in a city, you have all those weird groups of people that seem to be very NPC-like.
You probably know what I'm talking about.
Oh, yeah. So, when you're in the heart of the volcano, you really get this sort of rest.
And, of course, it's a metaphor.
I mean, there's this tale when some guy was throwing himself in the heart of the volcano to, you know...
How do you say it? It's a sort of going through the heat to...
I tried to find a word.
I can't find a word. English is my native tongue, so I'm sorry.
chase geiser
Well, Ben, thank you for chiming in with that explosive information.
I appreciate that. Let's hear from somebody else in the space, Matt, if anybody else is ready to speak.
matt infowars
Sure. It looks like Daniel has his mic unmuted.
Daniel, let's go ahead and hear from you next.
chase geiser
You know what? Before we go to Daniel, let's keep him until after this break because we only have about 45 seconds left.
We do have to go to a commercial break for four minutes here because we are broadcasting simultaneously on the radio.
We do honor those commercial breaks with our network partners.
And so in about 30 seconds, we're going to cut to this break for four minutes.
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unidentified
You're watching The American Journal with your host, Chase Geyser.
Watch live right now at band.video.
Welcome back to the American Journal.
chase geiser
I'm your host today, Chase Geiser, filling in for the great Harrison Smith, who will be back in studio on schedule next week, starting Monday morning.
I miss him so much. Excited to have him back at the helm, in the chair, on the throne.
We do have an ex-space that is live right now as we speak.
And speaking of speaking, let's have a speaker.
Who did we have lined up from the last segment, Matt?
unidentified
Got Daniel Price here.
chase geiser
Daniel, what is on your mind, sir?
Violence prevails. Is Daniel connecting?
matt infowars
Dan Price. Dan Price.
Oh, you know what? He lost his speaker privileges.
Let's go ahead and invite...
unidentified
I just lost you for a second.
chase geiser
Oh, there we go. I hear the chime.
matt infowars
Daniel is free to speak about the show.
chase geiser
What's up, man? I can hear you.
unidentified
So, hey, man.
Good show today.
And, you know, I just want to go back to the Harrison Smith situation with Tim Pool.
Tim Pool is a very angry little guy.
And he doesn't like when people push back at him.
But more importantly, Harrison has a beautiful head of hair.
Tim Pool is very jealous of that hair.
I think that's clear, considering he's been bald since he's 14 years old.
chase geiser
You know, I think it was the stache that threw him off.
Kaylee and I were watching, and when we were watching, my wife's Kaylee, by the way, when we were watching last night, I said to her, you know, no one looks less guilty in a mugshot if they have a mustache.
I think that Tim was just feeling intimidated by the mustache.
I agree. Thank you so much, Daniel.
I appreciate you, man. Who else do we have lined up that wants to speak before the show is over today?
matt infowars
Next up, it looks like we've got Monty.
Monty, you just had your mic unmuted.
Go ahead and unmute yourself again.
Hey, Monty. How are you feeling out there?
harrison smith
You're in the middle of the night.
chase geiser
I had him for a second, then I lost him.
matt infowars
Hey, okay. You know what, Monty?
We're not able to hear you in this space right now, so we're going to go ahead and it sounds like it may be a technical problem, but Monty, stay in the space and hopefully we can circle right back around to you.
How about Henry Facey?
Henry Facey, there we go.
What's on your mind today?
unidentified
Hey, what's going on, guys?
What's up, Chase? Hey, Henry.
Thanks for chiming in. Yeah, so I'll talk about last night.
I made a few comments about it.
I'll just keep my mouth as zipped as I can.
I'll open the corner of it here.
Okay, you can say whatever you want, just no bad words.
Okay, absolutely not.
Horrible interview, and I don't think he walked all over anybody.
I think... I think the way that Harrison handled it was borderline genius.
He's obviously a professional.
He gave me my first interview.
It's not about me. It's about the fact that he's number one in the business right now at 9 a.m.
And it's insane. I'm sitting here, and that's at Eastern Standard Time, by the way, 8 a.m.
Central. Unbelievable.
And I'm sitting here watching this, and I'm going, I can't even believe how Tim Pool is treating him right now.
And walking all over, I think is the wrong way to word it.
I think he was... Terrible.
I think he gave a terrible interview.
I think he treated him horribly, and I would probably maybe not go back to him, but that's just me personally.
I blocked him.
I'm just making a stand right now.
chase geiser
You blocked him over this, or you already had him blocked?
unidentified
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I actually pinned that on my page, too.
Yeah, no, I did. And I just wasn't a big fan of it.
No, that was horrible. I thought the way he handled it was terrible.
And, you know, it's...
And again, I don't think it should hurt his pride.
I think Harrison Smith is the best at 8 a.m.
Central, 9 a.m. Standard.
It's just... Eastern Standard. It's just unbelievable.
He's number one at the cutting edge of the knife.
So... Beyond that, Candace Owens, I don't know what to say.
It's looking weird, right?
I mean, isn't that crazy, Chase?
chase geiser
Yeah, that news astounded me.
Obviously, I knew that there was tension between Ben Shapiro and Candace ever since October 7th.
But even, you know, in hindsight, I guess it's obvious that it was inevitable that it would happen.
But it's funny how you never expect the obvious things until they happen.
And then you're like, oh, I guess that does make sense.
But I wonder what the details are going to be or if we're going to realize what's going on.
Is she bought out of her contract?
Is she terminated? This could be really complicated.
unidentified
No, absolutely. It could be super complicated.
You know, and last time I went on her page earlier, she had the banner of the Daily Wire still, but she unpinned the post about the Daily Wire she made.
So, not to get overly into it, but she's obviously making a move away, but it's just kind of, I'm kind of wondering how far away.
And again, not to be an over-skeptic, but who's the talent agency that got Candace going?
What's going on? I put that on my page.
Sorry I was shadowbanned X. Sorry you did that.
But then it didn't work out, did it?
We got everything around. It's all over TikTok.
It's everywhere now. It was all over everywhere.
So, you know what?
It's doing great. Thank you, everybody, for all your help, including Harrison.
Infowars has just been amazing.
We're at the cutting edge of the knife, guys.
We are destroying the New World Order.
Do you feel the energy yet?
It's game on.
These people are done.
They're done. But Candace Owens, I don't know.
We'll see what happens. I hope she's on our side.
chase geiser
Yeah, I think she's on our side.
I think she's going to be fine. I don't think she's somebody who sells out.
I don't always agree with her.
Sometimes she says things that irk me, but that's to be expected of any two people who follow each other and see each other's content.
So I don't expect her to agree with me all the time.
I don't expect to agree with her all the time, but I certainly respect her.
This is somebody who has built a brand for themselves very well.
She's very articulate. She's obviously very bright and it's obvious that she doesn't sell out because if she was the type of person that would sell out, it's a pretty cush thing to have a contract with The Daily Wire.
You can easily just put a smile on and nod your head at a place like that and coast for years and make literally millions of dollars.
But she refused to do that, not because she's arrogant or she wants attention or she's just trying to garner controversy for the sake of controversy.
I just think that she's genuinely a talented person who is sometimes irritating, sometimes amazing.
And I hope the best for her.
I think she's going to be just fine. I think the Daily Wire is going to be fine, too.
I mean, there's dynamos involved in both those organizations.
unidentified
Oh, I think the Daily Wire is going to be perfectly fine.
They get boosted like crazy on Twitter, on X, and everybody knows that.
But they'll be fine.
But yeah, no, everything's good for them.
Ben Shapiro's been great.
He's always been great. He's also always been blocked on my page, too, by the way.
chase geiser
He's so great. I blocked him.
unidentified
Yeah, no, he's been blocked.
By the way, the whole Daily Wire has been blocked.
Even Jordan Peterson? And I actually, I didn't block all of Tim Pool's crew.
I love Tim Pool's crew. I told that to Ian last night.
I just retweeted Ian Crossland.
Listen, they're great.
I just think that was a horrible interview.
I think the way he handled it was terrible.
And respect to Harrison Smith.
Let me let somebody else speak.
Info Uncensored on X. We're getting this...
Ask the shiz out there, and we're making it happen.
All right, guys? Thank you, InfoWars.
Thank you, Chase. I respect you so much, man.
chase geiser
Thank you so much for chiming in.
I really appreciate that you did that.
unidentified
Who do we have up next, guys? Up next, we have Matthias.
matt infowars
Matthias Cash. Everything seems to be fine in his neck of the woods.
Matthias, what do you got going on?
unidentified
Well, thank you for having me on Infowars.
This is a great day for me.
First time ever calling in through spaces.
I just wanted to point out that Tim was going through a crisis on air last night.
I feel like he was seeing things that he didn't quite understand.
I feel like he was truly understanding how much danger the nation actually is in.
And so he needed that safe space in himself just to say, oh my gosh, this is really happening.
We need to rise up and do something.
So he's been so married to YouTube.
I mean, even back when he was just a young lad doing YouTube.
And to me, it just seems like why hasn't he taken that plunge into the rumble sphere?
Why hasn't he gone to that actual parallel economy yet?
And I think it's because he's not in the same space we are.
He's a great guy, but he's not there yet.
And I feel like that was the only time that we were going to see him actually be like, oh, I don't know what's going on anymore.
He didn't have a good handle on the situation.
I feel like Candace Owens, she was a rock star.
And I think the establishment hates people who are unfiltered and ready to fight against them.
And that's the biggest thing about InfoWars is you guys are ready to go.
And I'm so glad to be talking to you today, Chase.
This is just amazing.
And one more thing I just wanted to say, Stephen Crowder was right about Big Con because Candace Owens was committed to the idea of her mission at Daily Wire until they crushed her and And once they crushed her, then she realized she had to speak out and get out of there before she was sold or sold.
So thank you so much for the opportunity to speak.
And this is just a great show.
Thank you for everything you guys do.
chase geiser
So awesome. Thanks. Absolutely.
Matthias, it's an honor and pleasure to have you speak.
I hope you chime in again as we do these spaces more often in the future.
Stick with us, folks.
We're gonna go to another four-minute break, and we'll be back with the final segment.
unidentified
Welcome back to the American Journal, folks.
chase geiser
We have a very special, spontaneous surprise guest.
I would say magical, but spontaneous is the word that I'm going for.
Rob Aguero is a member of the InfoWars crew here.
He is truly an info warrior, and he has launched a new podcast on Band.Video called Toxic Culture.
We've run the promo a couple of times.
He does an absolutely outstanding time of catalyzing amazing conversations with interesting people, myself included.
Rob, what's going on, man?
rob agueros
What's up, brother? Thank you for having me, man.
Absolutely. Great to be here.
chase geiser
Hey, man, you were at Infowars way before I was, so thank you for having me.
rob agueros
Yeah, man, it's been a long and fun ride so far.
Time is flying. It's like being in a wormhole or a black hole here and literally coming out on the other side has just been amazing.
chase geiser
Yeah, absolutely. So what made you decide to start a podcast?
Obviously, everybody and their mother has a podcast.
Yours is genuinely special.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
But what made you say, you know what, I'm going to add my name to the hat of podcasting.
rob agueros
Man, covering everything here every day, you get so tossed into the mix that when you get out, when you're on your way home, you just realize you have so much in you to say, so much in you to vent.
And it was like that with the crew as well.
So basically, the idea started where I wanted to have the crew, a place where the crew could just come on and say whatever they wanted.
And the conversations just were magical.
They really were. It was crazy just to see how many articulate people who are well-versed in so many different areas just vent and just come off like an Alex Jones rant.
I'm like, man, there's some more to this.
So, you know, kind of taking the Rogan approach at the same time, Alex's approach of bringing the news to you, but in a different fashion.
I feel like our fans really, really need a...
A different way to receive news sometimes.
A different message.
At the same time, I want to have fun.
We have to be able to make fun of all these people who are trying to, you know, infringe on all of our rights.
And it's so easy. Like, the comedic material is there.
It writes itself. Absolutely.
So, you've been my first repeat guest so far.
chase geiser
Are you even going to air the first one?
I am. Maybe played at my funeral.
unidentified
Right. Only I have this video.
rob agueros
How did you like it?
chase geiser
I love it. I love sitting around and hanging out.
I live for conversation. You know, I don't know if you had this experience in high school, but We're good to go.
It has that vibe.
You record after the sun goes down.
It's in the evening. It feels like you're hanging out with like-minded friends to have a deep conversation.
There's no timeline. There are no commercial breaks.
You sit down in the classic InfoWars podcast room that you retrofitted.
You redid the whole thing.
It's nostalgic and new at the same time.
rob agueros
It's awesome, man. Dude, and once you get into that, you feel the energy, you feel the nostalgia, you feel just so connected to everything there.
I'm so glad that everybody who's come on so far has loved it and everybody, you know, they can't wait for the episodes to drop.
And I'm truly blessed to be able to be able to do this at all.
And it wouldn't be, I wouldn't be able to do anything if it wasn't for you fans.
shopping at infowarsstory.com getting x3 dna force all the products that we sell if it wasn't for you guys supporting us none of this would be able to none of this would happen chase wouldn't be sitting in this chair you know i wouldn't be going on the battle tank with owen or you know us being able to go to stop the steal there's so many things so many epic things that we've been able to do here at infowars and it's all thanks to you fans and chase i mean you're prime example like you You've been here for, what, six months now?
In July. You said that earlier.
I was like, man, this time flies.
And look at you. You're the guest host, the number one Sunday night live, man.
chase geiser
How does it feel? Man, it's amazing.
The thing that's really amazing about it is I've had a number of different jobs.
I've worked for myself and owned a small business.
I've worked for other employers and cubicles.
And this is the first time in my life that I feel like I'm doing something genuinely fulfilling.
I look forward to...
When I go to sleep at night, I'm excited because I know that when I wake up, I'm going to be on my way back to work.
When I look at the clock at the end of the day, I'm not excited to leave.
I'm disappointed that I have to leave most days.
So it's magical. And speaking of that, I wanted to ask you, what was your first day at InfoWars like?
rob agueros
My first day...
Oh, man. It was crazy.
I was kind of filling in, shadowing, and just seeing all the moving parts...
For the first time, it was a little overwhelming.
I will never forget the first time Alex got mad.
You know, seeing that in person, it's great, man.
I was like, all right, coach, put me in.
I'm ready to play. And I've always kept that mentality.
You know, I've got nothing but great advice from Alex my entire time here.
Especially, I mean, same thing for Harrison and for Owen.
Everybody here is always on your side, wanting you to do more, and it's fully supported.
And that's why I decided to do what I'm doing.
chase geiser
Absolutely. So, how many episodes have you recorded so far?
rob agueros
So far, I have about, probably about 13 to 15 in the can.
chase geiser
I didn't realize you did that many.
rob agueros
Yeah, yeah, it's been, I've been, and I wanted to go through the process the right way to make sure everything was, would be successful.
I don't want to step on anybody's toes.
At the same time, I wanted to put out a quality product the right way.
And I think, you know, the fact that we're finally, you know, we're doing skits now, like we did, you know.
Yeah, it's so good. Dude, Harrison was great in that.
Thomas was great. Rachel, Owen, and Reese, like, we had a great time.
There's going to be a lot more skits coming. You had to reparate that toilet paper?
I had to reparate that toilet paper.
Yeah, dude, and there's more of those coming, and that's another reason why I started doing what I'm doing, is so we have a platform just to try things and do things, and hopefully it grows into, you know, Honestly, the goal is to just be better than Saturday Night Live.
I mean, it's not that hard anymore.
chase geiser
Right. But better than like the old school SNL when it was really funny.
Chris Farley falling into coffee tables.
rob agueros
That's where I want us to get to, too.
Because our fans deserve, need, and love that kind of comedy content.
So that's basically what I want to bring to the table.
chase geiser
Absolutely. So, what are your goals long-term for the podcast?
Obviously, it's not a live show.
It's recorded.
It can be as long as you want.
It's uploaded to band.video.
Are you going to integrate the audience at all with X Spaces?
rob agueros
Or what do you think? Yeah, definitely.
I think we've talked about this.
We kind of... I want to do a Friday night spaces with you.
I think that'd be fun every Friday and just get, you know, the fans to be able to be as toxic as us, you know, when we're off air.
Just, you know, because they created this toxic environment.
We didn't. We just have to live in it.
And then they blame us for creating it.
So it doesn't make any sense.
And we have to fight fire with fire and throw all this back in their face comedically.
And what's the truth? The truth will always prevail.
So I want toxic culture on the Saturday night show to be what it is.
And I want other things to branch off of this.
You know, we could go into Wednesdays or we have a midweek breakdown of everything that's going on.
And I think that's really what is going to come to fruition is having that Saturday and then during the week have where people have more questions about current events instead of just the actual conversation.
So I think, you know, this is just one step, but I want things to branch off of it and other people to feel comfortable being able to be themselves on air.
And, you know, getting other people on air is kind of like pulling teeth sometimes, but there's so many articulate people here.
We need more of...
The Infowars voices to be heard.
chase geiser
Absolutely. Well, we're always trying to activate the audience, and it's not just by having them go to Infowarsstore.com and invite any of our awesome supplements, but we're always encouraging the audience to rip the full broadcasts, download the videos and the segments, cut them into viral clips, and share the words, spread the message.
So my question for you... Absolutely.
And one of the reasons I want to ask this question is because this was something that I was struggling with years ago before I started speaking out vocally in the politics space online.
What advice would you have or suggestion would you have for members of our audience who are trying to figure out how they can be a real player in the Infowar who are big fans and just don't know what to do next to make a bigger impact than just listening?
rob agueros
I would suggest to do what Alex told me to do.
He told everybody to do.
Go and do it. Whatever you want to do, pick up the phone, pick up that camera, the recorder, whatever you want to, however you want to do it, just go out and do it.
You want to edit videos? Start ripping them.
Start with the free programs until you get good enough.
Oh, you know what? I've outgrown this.
I need to buy something. And that's all it took.
I remember, dude, I started AMO, A-A-M-O, America's Alternative Media Organization, on Instagram, just so I could get content to send to InfoWars.
I started with the vertical phone, and I remember my first two videos I sent, Rob Dew was like, don't ever send a vertical video ever again.
Yes, sir! And I never did, ever since.
So, it's literally just taking that step of doing what you really want to do, and then focusing your energy and harnessing that positive energy behind it.
I was yelling at Beto, talking about, you know, Beto's going to take her guns in 2019, and literally, this is where I've been able to land, just because I took advice from Alex, and he told me to do it, and I did everything I could to try to get here.
So that's what I would say, just people, get off your ass and do it.
chase geiser
He's really a great leader in that respect.
So we've got 30 seconds left before the end of the show, and the great Alex Jones hosts the Alex Jones Show today at 11 o'clock a.m.
Central Time, just in a... 30 seconds or so, a few minutes now.
So, on a final message, where can people find you, follow you, and watch the broadcast?
rob agueros
Yes, band out video.
My channel is Toxic Culture.
Be on InfoWars.com forward to that show every Saturday.
And we're just going to bring you to that content.
You can find me on Twitter, InfoWarsRob at Toxic Cult.
But that's right. Thank you very much, brother.
chase geiser
Thanks, guys.
Stay tuned for The Alex Jones Show.
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