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| Stand up against the poison of white supremacy as I did my inaugural address to single out as the most dangerous terrorist threat to our homeland is white supremacy. | ||
| Congress, I'll give you five damn good reasons why the 46th president of the United States, Joe Biden, should be impeached. | ||
| And I'll make it easy. I won't even bring up the fraudulent elections. | ||
| Number one, treason. | ||
| Chinese nationals affiliated with the Bidens created limited liability companies in the United States and then in a short period of time transferred their interest to a Chinese company that sent money to the Bidens. | ||
| Number two, mental fitness. | ||
| According to the 25th Amendment, Joe Biden does not have the mental fitness to be president, and even he knows it. | ||
| You know, you don't have to stand every time I hear hail the chief wonder, where the hell is he? | ||
| It took me a long while to think I'm joking. | ||
| I'm not. I turn around and, where's the president? | ||
| Number three, economic sabotage. | ||
| Joe Biden has single-handedly driven the nation to the brink of a collapse after shutting down our resources, depleting our oil reserves, and bleeding our military dry, all in the name of a foreign globalist agenda. | ||
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Number four. All the kids under the age of 15, come on up here. | |
| Heinous felonies. | ||
| There may be compromising evidence that Joe Biden is a hardcore pedophile behind closed doors while overseeing a global sex trafficking operation. | ||
| And five, national security breach. | ||
| Aside from allowing the Chinese to gather key information on our military installations via spy balloons... | ||
| The idea that there was a dereliction of duty, I think, is a bizarre notion. | ||
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Biden told the crowd at a private fundraiser in New York, we have not faced the prospect of Armageddon since Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis. | |
| Don't think there is any such thing as the ability to easily use a tactical nuclear weapon and not end up with Armageddon. | ||
| Since Joe Biden took office, 5 million illegal border crossers encountered, 2 million illegal aliens released into the country, another 2 million. | ||
| Over 370,000 unaccompanied alien children have been encountered on the border. | ||
| And the Biden administration has lost track of 85,000 kids. | ||
| 85,000 of that number. | ||
| And nearly 200 on the terrorist watch list have been encountered on our border. | ||
| Here's the kicker. It's all been done intentionally. | ||
| Day one, January 20th, 2021, Joe Biden said, no more wall, no more remain in Mexico. | ||
| You get to the border, you get released into the country. | ||
| Of course, Joe Biden is merely the current visage of a cabal caught with their pants down by the Durham investigation, a treasonous bureaucratic media monstrosity that knowingly lied to the American people, yet faces no repercussions. | ||
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Do you have direct evidence of collusion with Russia? | |
| I think there is direct evidence. | ||
| While there is abundant evidence of collusion, but as I've said along, there's plenty of evidence of collusion. | ||
| Donald Trump engaged in perverted acts with prostitutes. | ||
| In reality, A, a bunch of the dossier has proven to be true. | ||
| B, the FBI and the CIA have reportedly validated parts of it as true. | ||
| Investigators have corroborated part of the dossier. | ||
| The dossier has been corroborated by the intelligence community. | ||
| U.S. investigators have corroborated some of the allegations in that dossier. | ||
| We do know that parts of it have been corroborated. | ||
| Some of it, we did corroborate in the ICA. And of course it appears that more of it has been corroborated. | ||
| Many of the things represented in the Steele reports were in fact true. | ||
| So Andrew, in the Durham report it says the FBI never had evidence of collusion, that's not a legal term we should note, between the Trump campaign and Russia in 2016, should never have launched a full investigation. | ||
| What's your response? Yeah, I vehemently disagree with Mr. | ||
| Durham's characterizations of what we did in the report. | ||
| The time for weaponizing the Department of Justice needs to come to an end. | ||
| And because you refuse to prosecute real criminals that are violating all the crimes here in Washington, D.C., and you want to talk about D.C. residents, they are victims of your abuse of power. | ||
| And because of that, I am introducing articles of impeachment on you, Mr. | ||
| Graves. Immediately, the thoughts of impeachment bring up the nightmare of a Kamala Harris presidency. | ||
| My mother used to, she would give us a hard time sometimes and she would say to us, I don't know what's wrong with you young people. | ||
| You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? | ||
| You exist in the context. | ||
| But isn't that the very reason she is there? | ||
| Impeach Joe Biden now or suffer the consequences before irreversible damage is done. | ||
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All right, welcome back folks. | |
| This is the American Journal taking a record. | ||
| Really a warfront broadcast here coming to you live from the front lines of the information war. | ||
| We've had some interesting developments in that regard. | ||
| First, a happy anniversary to El Salvador. | ||
| El Salvador enjoys 365 murder-free days after Bukele's crackdown on MS-13 and other gangs. | ||
| El Salvador has accumulated 365 murder-free days. | ||
| Since President Nayib Bukele took office in 2019, the Salvadorian leader has announced... | ||
| He announces on Thursday having enjoyed just a single day without a registered homicide in the 15 years prior. | ||
| So for 15 years they only have one day without a murder a A person who actually wants to fight back against the criminals gets into office. | ||
| And since 2019, they've had 365 days without a murder. | ||
| Absolutely incredible. | ||
| The precipitous drop in homicide rates in one of the world's most crime-ridden countries has been impressive and has been particularly prominent in the first five months of this year. | ||
| There have been 97 murder-free days so far this year up until May 13th, up significantly from the 27 days recorded in the same period in 2022 and three days in 2021. | ||
| So making noticeable, measurable progress year over year in their war against the criminal cartels. | ||
| It's important to note that the government is not claiming these days were consecutive, but it still represents an unprecedented feat for a country that many experts said had the highest murder rate in the world before Bukele took power. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Now the question is, why is Bukele not being celebrated around the world? | ||
| Why is he not on a whirlwind international tour explaining to other world leaders his massive success? | ||
| Why instead do you have the New York Times and others writing articles about how dangerous this is, saying, yes, he's stopped murder, but at what cost? | ||
| Well, at the cost of locking up criminals, you weirdos. | ||
| Why is that not happening? | ||
| Because the powers that be find crisis and suffering and innocent people being murdered very convenient to their manufactured crises that they use to gain more power. | ||
| They don't want you to know how easy it is. | ||
| They don't want you to know how simple the solutions are. | ||
| They would much rather you go down the tangled rabbit hole nest warren of... | ||
| Well, it's financial incentives and the means of production and mental illness. | ||
| And we have to have social workers as police. | ||
| It's just like you just lock up the criminals. | ||
| It really is that simple. | ||
| It really, really is as easy as just putting the criminals away or to death. | ||
| And then it's over. And then nobody's committing crimes anymore. | ||
| Then children can play at the parks again. | ||
| And families can go to the market and not be in fear for their lives. | ||
| And small businesses can operate without having to pay a portion of their proceeds to some criminal gang so they aren't murdered in their sleep. | ||
| Life can go on as normal in a peaceful, beautiful, lovely way without the constant threat of violent murder hanging over their head at every second. | ||
| It really is that simple. | ||
| It really is that easy. | ||
| And when you understand that and you understand that the people in power understand that, you start to realize that not just the open border, not just the huge number of things you can point to as obviously by design and a part of a wider agenda, but just everything. | ||
| Everything that we see as failures in this country, the chaos, the madness, the insanity that we are constantly confronted with every single day in our headlines is all a choice. | ||
| It's all a choice being made by the people in power to willfully disregard the obvious solutions to these problems in favor of whatever gives them more power and more control, whatever inspires more chaos. | ||
| So they can use that to carry out even more of their despicable schemes. | ||
| When you understand that just putting somebody in charge who actually prioritizes crime fighting, the problem goes away. | ||
| And the only issue is that the people in power now are the criminals. | ||
| They are the ones doing this to us. | ||
| They might have the foot soldiers, the thugs on the street actually committing the crimes, but the real beneficiaries at the end of the day are the people in the halls of power. | ||
| And they don't want you to realize how easy it is to replace them with somebody who actually cares and to solve all of the issues that they continually take advantage of in order to enslave humanity. | ||
| It's the best example you can possibly point to. | ||
| El Salvador. I mean, when you go from, not like, yeah, murder was kind of bad to it's not so bad, but from the worst in the world to the best in the world. | ||
| I mean, that is revolutionary change. | ||
| That's a revolutionary transition. | ||
| And it was done without the revolutionary impulse to tear down the old systems in order to try to fabricate new ones and to have the revolution roll into authoritarian control where you're just using the powers that you have ostensibly to fight crime to go after your political enemies. | ||
| You can just be a good person. | ||
| You can just hire and elect good people with decent morals and a positive agenda, and they can just go after the criminals, eradicate them from public life, and allow the country to return to some sense of normalcy. | ||
| It really is that simple. | ||
| It really is a solution as easy as that, and they are desperate to cover this up and act like what's happening with Bukele is some sort of authoritarian, dangerous trend that we have to stop in its tracks. | ||
| I mean, can you imagine? Can you imagine being a writer for something like the New York Times, seeing this massive precipitous drop in murder rates, seeing people in El Salvador literally weeping, saying, we have our neighborhood back, we have our park back, I can go with my son and play soccer at the park without being confronted by some tattooed demons who want to scalp us for 50 cents. | ||
| I mean, can you imagine seeing the huge success, the just solely positive developments in El Salvador and going, how do I make this look bad? | ||
| How do I scare the rest of the countries in the southern hemisphere or in the northern hemisphere, for that matter? | ||
| How do I scare them away from this obvious solution? | ||
| You know, how do I how do I bury this cure for cancer? | ||
| How do I disguise this miraculous transition so that nobody else tries to copy this? | ||
| I mean, can you imagine how despicable, how evil, how fallen these people are and how the rest of America just goes along with it? | ||
| Probably doesn't even know that what's happening in El Salvador is even happening. | ||
| And if only they knew. If only they knew how simple all of this was. | ||
| When you see the rising crime rates, when you see the falling birth rates, when you see the overwhelming corruption at the very top of our government that's gone on unchecked for decade upon decade being laid out in black and white, whether it's the Durham report or the whistleblower exposés or just the things that these people whether it's the Durham report or the whistleblower exposés or just the things that these people say themselves on tape, on camera, like | ||
| Now, when you understand just how coordinated, just how purposeful, just how on purpose all of this suffering is, you realize none of this is just a natural part of modernity. | ||
| Well, it's the modern world. | ||
| Well, the modern world is so crazy. | ||
| We've got murder and chaos and division and racial strife and all this stuff. | ||
| It's not the modern world. | ||
| There's nothing about the modern world that requires we live in chaos and violence. | ||
| Absolutely nothing. With a change of leadership, with people in charge that actually value and love the American people rather than seeing them as, you know, economic fruits to be squeezed of their juices until they're husks and then, you know, discarded as waste. | ||
| Like when you have people that actually value the citizens and put them first and put in place common sense policies to stop the endless suffering of innocence, then the problems get solved. | ||
| They get cleaned up. So these people that run our country want the chaos. | ||
| They want the violence. | ||
| It's on purpose. We have to get rid of them. | ||
| And then the problems will be over. | ||
| All right, welcome back, folks. | ||
| This is the American Journal. | ||
| We'll be joined in the next hour by Laura Loomer. | ||
| Talk about some new information she has about Ron DeSantis. | ||
| And we'll be joined by David Pine in the third hour, expert on nuclear warfare, to discuss the latest saber-rattling with China and Russia. | ||
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| And of course, as we talked about yesterday, we're in this weird situation of like, we're doing a victory lap at the same time as still running the race. | ||
| Like, we've been proven right about pretty much everything. | ||
| Pretty much everything at this point. | ||
| Just everything we've talked about for decades, finally, people are coming around to understanding at least the independent, the singular aspects of what we talk about. | ||
| Not everybody's ready for the true awakening where you actually put it all together. | ||
| We're seeing the stars. | ||
| We haven't yet connected them to draw the constellation of global government. | ||
| You know, just human slavery and how it all plays into each other. | ||
| But like independently, everybody realizes that the so-called conspiracy theories were right all along. | ||
| And yet we have so much more to do. | ||
| And yet that's just the beginning. | ||
| That's just the beachfront, the landing force. | ||
| In this, what promises to be, massive campaign to reclaim our stolen land, that is, the entire Earth. | ||
| Now, Elon Musk is proving to be just an increasingly valuable and... | ||
| I don't know what you'd say. | ||
| Awake, an increasingly powerful proponent for... | ||
| The so-called conspiracy theorist for the free speech that allows us to actually discuss what's going on in the world. | ||
| Really, Twitter has undergone a massive transformation. | ||
| And man, the people in charge are just so, so not happy with any of this. | ||
| He gave an interview with just bombshell after bombshell. | ||
| I'm wondering where to even begin. | ||
| I guess we'll just begin with Elon Musk trashing Biden in a very... | ||
| Sort of calm and deliberate way. | ||
| He's not going crazy. | ||
| He's not going off the rails. But he is expressing what I think a lot of us can relate to. | ||
| Clip number 13 here. Elon Musk expresses Biden-Grette. | ||
| Saying, I wish we could just have a normal human being as president. | ||
| Wouldn't it be nice? Wouldn't it be nice if the most powerful person in the entire world, the president of these United States, was just like not a despicable old creepy pervert? | ||
| Wouldn't that be something? Let's watch. | ||
| You voted for him. I did, actually. | ||
| Do you regret that? I mean... | ||
| Man... | ||
| I wish we could have just a normal human being as president. | ||
| That's what I want. You know, there's that old saying of, like, we're better off being run by people picked at random from the phone book than the faculty of Harvard. | ||
| I don't know who said that, but of someone who was very wise. | ||
| And I would say if we could do that for the president, that would be great. | ||
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You think that would be beneficial? Obviously you're not happy with Biden. | |
| Don't we all just want a normal human being to be president? | ||
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Whatever that means. I'm not even sure anymore what normal means. | |
| You're not even sure what normal means? | ||
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I don't understand. You want somebody who's competent. | |
| That's helpful. Yes, I think definitely somebody's executive ability is underrated. | ||
| Since the president is effectively the chief executive officer of the country, it actually matters if they are a good executive officer. | ||
| It's not simply a matter of, do they share your beliefs? | ||
| But are they good at Getting things done. | ||
| There's a lot of decisions that need to be made every day. | ||
| Many of them are unrelated to moral beliefs. | ||
| Right. And you just want a good executive. | ||
| Because they're CEO of America. | ||
| They are. What is normal anymore, you know? | ||
| I mean, maybe it is normal to have a president who takes orders from a person dressed up like the Easter Bunny and then immediately does what they say. | ||
| Maybe it's normal to have a president whose own daughter's diary describes how he used to take showers with her that made her so uncomfortable she stopped taking showers when he was still awake. | ||
| I mean, maybe that's normal. Maybe it's normal. | ||
| To have a first family that is, for all intents and purposes, a mob family continually using their positions of power in the American government to enrich themselves and sell out the American people. | ||
| Maybe that's just normal now. | ||
| Maybe it's normal to have a president of the United States whose business partners with his son who is a crack-addled whoremonger, lifelong criminal, and pervert himself. | ||
| I mean, maybe this is just normal now. | ||
| Maybe if we just do this enough to you, You'll start to just think this is the way things are supposed to be rather than awakening from this enforced nightmare sleep state that we've been indoctrinated into and understand that it's not normal. | ||
| The normal thing is to have decent people with intelligence and honor and morality, not to have decrepit old psychopaths and their criminal cabal running this country. | ||
| That's not normal and you understand that, interviewer dude. | ||
| I mean, this guy has to, like, pretend to be so stupid. | ||
| It's really kind of annoying. | ||
| Let's go to clip number 14 here. | ||
| Elon Musk, schools in CNBC, gives lessons on media psyops in this remarkable exchange. | ||
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Let's watch. When you link to somebody who's talking about the guy who killed children in a mall in Allen, Texas, you say something like it might be a bad psyop. | |
| I'm not quite sure what you meant, but... | ||
| It was, I think, incorrectly ascribed to be a white supremacist action. | ||
| And the evidence for that was some obscure Russian website that no one's ever heard of, that had no followers. | ||
| And the... The company that found this is Bellingcat. | ||
| Right. Do you know what Bellingcat does? | ||
| Psyops. Right. | ||
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I couldn't really even follow exactly what it was you were trying to express there, so that's in part why I was curious. | |
| I'm saying that I thought ascribing it to white supremacy was bullshit. | ||
| Okay. And that the information for that came from an obscure Russian website and was somehow magically found by Bellingcat, which is a company that does psyops. | ||
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And there's no proof, by the way, that he was not. | |
| I would say that there's no proof that he is. | ||
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And that's a debate you want to get into on Twitter? | |
| Yes. Because we should not be ascribing things to white supremacy if it's false. | ||
| Whoa, man. Whoa. | ||
| That's not the way things work, okay? | ||
| We call things white supremacy, and then you apologize for it, okay? | ||
| That's the way this works. | ||
| You don't look into whether or not it's the actual thing. | ||
| You don't actually, you know, take our words for what they mean and actually try to come to it. | ||
| You just—it's blood libel on white people, and you're supposed to feel bad about it, okay? | ||
| Of course, you know, in this—in that exchange— He says, I don't think there's any proof that he wasn't a white supremacist, which, like, that statement alone is retarded. | ||
| Okay, is there any proof that you're not a white supremacist? | ||
| Oh, oh, got you now, idiot. | ||
| But also, there is absolutely proof he's not a white supremacist. | ||
| He literally wrote, in those same posts that they used for proof he was a white supremacist, he wrote, quote, I don't like white people. | ||
| He didn't like white people. | ||
| He was an edgy dumbass who thought that Hitler was cool because he thought evil things were cool. | ||
| It's not that complicated. | ||
| All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is the American Journal. | ||
| First hour is flying by. | ||
| We're going to go to more videos of Elon Musk as he's been making waves recently, not just with this latest interview on CNBC, but also some of his comments on Twitter that come up as questions in this CNBC interview. | ||
| We'll take a look at all of it. | ||
| Again, Elon, he is... | ||
| I think he's Batman. I think he might be the hero that we need right now. | ||
| Videos on Infowars.com. | ||
| Elon Musk educates NBC hack that some conspiracy theories turned out to be true. | ||
| What? I know, and the CNBC willful idiot pretends that he doesn't know this, just like he pretends not to know what Elon Musk is saying when he's like, that Hispanic guy who didn't like white people maybe wasn't a white supremacist. | ||
| He's like, what are you? What? | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| But a CIA propaganda outlet said that he was a white supremacist because of... | ||
| Defunct user on a Russian website said so. | ||
| So, what? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| What do you mean questioning the statements of our propaganda outlets? | ||
| I don't understand. You understand. | ||
| You understand. You're just a despicable liar. | ||
| Here's the article from Infowars. | ||
| Hispanic, quote, white supremacist mass shooter Mauricio Garcias said white people are, quote, a race I don't like. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| Can it get any more clear than that? | ||
| White people are a race I don't like. | ||
| Wow, classic white supremacist sentiment right there. | ||
| Just completely insane. | ||
| And they get into George Soros as well. | ||
| Elon Musk's school's reporter on conspiracy theories by pointing out that the Hunter Biden laptop was real. | ||
| I believe that might be in this next one. | ||
| Let's go now to clip number 22 here. | ||
| Powerful statement by Elon Musk. | ||
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But how do you make a choice in terms of when you're going to engage? | |
| I mean, for example, even today, Elon, you tweeted this thing about George Soros. | ||
| Well, I'm looking for it because I want to make sure I quote it properly. | ||
| But, I mean, you know what you wrote, but you basically... | ||
| I said it reminds me of my veto. | ||
| This is like, you know, calm down, people. | ||
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This is not, like, made a federal case out of it. | |
| You said he wants to erode the very fabric of civilization and Soros hates humanity. | ||
| Like, when you do something like that, do you think about... | ||
| Yeah, I think that's true. That's my opinion. | ||
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Okay. But why share it? | |
| Why share it? Hold on. | ||
| There's a pause right there. There's a pause right there. | ||
| That exchange right there sort of sums up everything. | ||
| That's my opinion, the other guy says, but why share it? | ||
| Why share it? | ||
| Why not silence yourself? | ||
| Why have an opinion that we, your enemies, don't like? | ||
| And then why express that opinion? | ||
| It's my opinion. But why share it? | ||
| That alone. You think this guy ever lies in bed at night and just wonders, like, what the hell am I doing with my life? | ||
| I'm sitting here asking the richest man in the world, At least one of them. | ||
| Definitely one of the most powerful men in the world. | ||
| Like, why do you feel the right to express opinions that you know I don't like? | ||
| These people, man. Sorry, let's go back to the interrogation here. | ||
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When people who buy Teslas may not agree with you, advertisers on Twitter may not agree with you, why not just say, hey, I think this. | |
| You can tell me. We can talk about it over there. | ||
| Yeah, you can be quiet about it. | ||
| I mean, you can whisper it. | ||
| You can write it in your secret journal. | ||
| But why tell other human beings about it? | ||
| And again, there's this double standard of like, well, what if people who buy Teslas don't like it? | ||
| In other words, you know, what if we punish you financially for your opinions? | ||
| Are you still going to have them? To which you look at like Bud Light or any of these things where it's like, okay, the vast majority of their customers vehemently disagree with their approach to advertising or the opinions they express. | ||
| Vast majority, just huge amount of people. | ||
| How is it treated when those customers go, hey, why is this corporation forcing views down our throat that we don't agree with? | ||
| It's Bud Light comes under attack from the latest outrage in the rights culture war nonsense, right? | ||
| It's just like if you don't like what the corporations are saying, because that's not even an individual. | ||
| It's different when it's an individual just going, look, this is my opinion. | ||
| This is what I'm saying. | ||
| When you have an entire executive board and the advertising agencies and millions of dollars into an ad campaign to push an idea on the American people and they go, hey, we don't like this. | ||
| Well, then suddenly it's right-wing culture war attacks on the transgender community. | ||
| He's allowed to say what he thinks. | ||
| He's allowed to say opinions, especially about despicable, world-destroying, lifelong criminal Nazi collaborators, scumbags like George Soros. | ||
| Do people disagree with that? | ||
| Then they're bad people also. | ||
| Why would you want them as customers in the first place? | ||
| Anybody who loves George Soros should be prevented from owning anything ever. | ||
| They should be in jail. Let's go back to, again, the interrogation as he, and of course it's always couched and we'll show you more. | ||
| It's always couched and like, this is for your own sake. | ||
| You know, I'm looking out for you. | ||
| I want your company to do well. | ||
| So shut up. | ||
| Stop sharing your opinions. | ||
| Be silent. On the topics we tell you to be silent about. | ||
| Because we love you and we want what's best for you. | ||
| It's worse than just like, shut up or I'll beat you up. | ||
| It's worse than a jackboot on your neck. | ||
| This smiling Dolores Umbridge. | ||
| It's for your own good. | ||
| You need to be quiet now. | ||
| In fact, I have a thing here from Joey Politano where he tweets the Elon Musk exchange about Soros. | ||
| And he says, Elon's going down a very, very dark place. | ||
| He's going down to a dark place. | ||
| And he's criticizing George Soros. | ||
| He's not descending into some sort of realm of hatred that you have to rescue him from. | ||
| We get it. We get it. You want him to shut up about the Jewish guy. | ||
| We understand. We understand. | ||
| It's not that complicated. | ||
| You're not tricking anybody. But they have to do this. | ||
| They have to couch it in like the, he's going to a dark place and we want to rescue him from himself. | ||
| You know, all these little soft words and these little twinkie weirdos with their limp wrists saying how much they care about you. | ||
| You know, just picture the jackbooted thug putting a bayonet to your forehead and pulling the trigger. | ||
| That's who they are. For real, that's who they are. | ||
| Don't let their soft NPR voice fool you. | ||
| These people are despicable tyrants who are trying to weaponize your own empathy to silence you. | ||
| So, do what Elon does. | ||
| Tell them to stuff it. Let's go back. | ||
| I mean, this is freedom of speech, and I'm allowed to say what I want to say. | ||
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You absolutely are, but I'm trying to understand why you do, because you have to know it's got a... | |
| It puts you in the middle of the partisan divide in the country. | ||
| It makes you a lightning rod for criticism. | ||
| You're the one who's at fault. | ||
| We attack you, and it's your fault. | ||
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People today say he's an anti-Semite. | |
| I don't think you are. No, I'm definitely not. | ||
| I'm like a pro-Semite, if anything. | ||
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I believe that probably is the case. | |
| Why would you even introduce the idea? | ||
| Why would you introduce that? Pause real quick. | ||
| Why would you introduce that idea? | ||
| In other words, let me just rephrase this real quick. | ||
| Why would you risk us attacking you, right? | ||
| We're attacking you. We're calling you an anti-Semite. | ||
| I'm going to couch it in language that sounds like I'm not. | ||
| But a lot of people do think you're an anti-Semite. | ||
| Why? Because you criticize George Soros. | ||
| Why would you open yourself up to that? | ||
| Translation here, why would you criticize a Jewish person when you know they're going to attack you for it? | ||
| George Soros is not the Jews. | ||
| He is not representative of, I would argue, even a sizable percentage of the Jews. | ||
| The man literally loaded Jews onto train cars to send them to camps in Germany. | ||
| Oh, but this is the guy that you can't criticize or else the media will attack you. | ||
| So why even risk that? | ||
| Why risk criticizing one of us when you know that we're going to attack you for it? | ||
| Why put yourself at that risk of us attacking you? | ||
| Let's see what Elon says. | ||
| I mean, look, we don't want to make this a George Soros interview. | ||
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No, God, no. I don't want it at all. | |
| But what I'm trying... | ||
| It even came up, though, in the annual meeting. | ||
| I mean, you know, do your tweets hurt the company? | ||
| Are there Tesla owners who say, I don't agree with his political position because... | ||
| And I know it because he shares so much of it. | ||
| Or are there advertisers on Twitter that Linda Iaccarina will come and say, you got to stop, man. | ||
| Or you know, I can't get these ads because of some of the things you tweet I'm reminded of There's a scene in The Princess Bride. | ||
| Great movie. Great movie. | ||
| Where he confronts the person who killed his father. | ||
| And he says... | ||
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Offer me money. | |
| Offer me power. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
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See, you just don't care. | |
| You want to share what you have to say. | ||
| I'll say what I want to say, and if the consequence of that is losing money, he doesn't care. | ||
| Prepare to die! | ||
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No! Offer me money. | |
| Yes. Power, too. | ||
| Promise me that. All that I have and more. | ||
| Please, offer me everything I ask for. | ||
| Anything you want. | ||
| I want my father back, you son of a bitch. | ||
| One of the best scenes to ever be put to film, in my opinion. | ||
| I feel like that guy, right? | ||
| I want my country back, you sons of bitches. | ||
| Welcome back, folks. It really is a most interesting time to be alive. | ||
| You've got revelations about the full-spectrum conspiracy that took place at the top of the Biden administration with cooperation from the CIA, the FBI, and others to frame Donald Trump for a Russian hoax. | ||
| It's been just laid out perfectly clear, black and white, undeniable at this point. | ||
| Of course, the liars and the schemers and the scumbags are still lying about it, obviously. | ||
| Same time you have the open treason taking place with the coordinated invasion of this country. | ||
| Cooperation of international bodies such as the UN and other various NGOs. | ||
| Now is the time for somebody like Elon Musk to rise. | ||
| To his purpose. And he seems to be doing just that. | ||
| We've gone out of clip number 31. | ||
| Here's another clip from his CNBC interview, which I may have to interrupt partway through this. | ||
| So be prepared. Here's Elon Musk being asked about conspiracy theories. | ||
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You know, you do some tweets that seem to be, or at least give support to some who would call others conspiracy theories. | |
| Well... Yes, but I mean, honestly, you know, some of these conspiracy theories have turned out to be true. | ||
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Which ones? Well, like the Hunter Biden laptop. | |
| Oh, that was my cue. | ||
| That was my cue. Hunter Biden laptop, absolutely proven beyond any reasonable doubt. | ||
| We were told for years it was a Russian fabrication. | ||
| This was a letter signed by 55 of the intelligence agencies. | ||
| That is a conspiracy theory. | ||
| They conspired together to tell a lie to the American people to rig an election to cover up for the criminal activity for their preferred candidate. | ||
| That's a conspiracy that took place. | ||
| And that was proven beyond any reasonable doubt because Hunter Biden himself sued over the laptop confirming its reality once and for all, just like what happened with the Ashley Biden diary where she said, I'm scared to take a shower because my dad comes in every time I do. | ||
| So now I have to take showers in the middle of the night so he can't sneak in and molest me, basically. | ||
| You know, I'm not verbatim, but that's essentially what she says. | ||
| And she sued over that diary, again, confirming its factuality. | ||
| But that's not the only ones, of course, just off the top of my head. | ||
| The brief list would go something like the Trump-Russia witch hunt conspiracy theory, the vaccine damage and efficacy of masks and the effect of lockdowns and the COVID origin source. | ||
| And, of course, Jeffrey Epstein having a sex trafficking intelligence operation, JFK assassination, the misuse of the Patriot Act, the Iraq War, the weapons of mass destruction, the war in Ukraine, the bombing of the Nord Stream Pipeline, the open border migration caravans, the climate change scam, chemtrails and HAARP and 9-11 the open border migration caravans, the climate change scam, chemtrails and HAARP and 9-11 being an inside job and the Internet of Things surveillance grid and PFAs and chemicals in the water turning everyone gay and the 2020 election being stolen and January 6th being filled with undercover feds and Bilderberg and Bohemian Grove and global government, not to mention gain-of-function research and the threat chemtrails and HAARP and 9-11 being an inside job and the Internet of Things surveillance grid and PFAs and chemicals in the water turning everyone gay and the 2020 election being stolen and | ||
| I mean, so a few of them. | ||
| I guess a couple of them have been true. | ||
| I guess, you know, except for, like... | ||
| Flat Earth and aliens, I guess all of them, like all of them, have been proven true at this point. | ||
| So why are you still calling them conspiracy theories? | ||
| Why are you not calling them what they are? | ||
| Conspiracies. They are lies told by a huge number of people who know the truth but spread the lie because they intend to use the lie to get themselves more power, more money, destroy their enemies, whatever it is. | ||
| It's a conspiracy. And the big secret about all of this is it's all one conspiracy. | ||
| These aren't separate events by different people. | ||
| It's all the same people doing the same thing over and over and over again. | ||
| The same people that got us into Iraq got us into Ukraine. | ||
| The same people that overthrew Ukraine in a coup got us into war with Russia and are spending hundreds of billions of our dollars to perpetuate that. | ||
| The same people over and over and over again. | ||
| The same person that crashed the British pound and made billions is now opening the border and funding our DAs to the tunes of tens of millions and driving our murder rates into the stratosphere. | ||
| It's the same people over and over again every time. | ||
| Conspiracy theories aren't true. | ||
| The conspiracy exists. | ||
| And the more these scumbags like this interviewer cover it up, the longer it's going to take to fix. | ||
| Alright folks, again, you know, I know we have other stuff to talk about here, but this Elon conversation just runs the gamut. | ||
| I mean, it spans the whole spectrum from censorship and free speech and, you know, Twitter and, you know, the ability for us to have a public square where we can actually express ourselves to George Soros, to anti-Semitism, to, I mean, just all of these things are, like, encapsulated in... | ||
| This conversation. So I do want to spend just a few more minutes on it before we welcome Laura Loomer to talk about what she's discovered about Ron DeSantis. | ||
| I mean, there are some other big stories that we'll have to get to, so I'll try to finish up here quickly, because more and more reactions to the Durham report are coming out, and they're kind of hilarious. | ||
| Oh yeah, by the way, when you're talking about George Soros, well, let's start with this. | ||
| David Sachs says this, George Soros has been so uniquely destructive to law and order in American cities that there's a name for the carnage he's wrought, Soros DAs. | ||
| His organization described his Strategy to Politico in a 2016 article saying it would change the law not by going through legislatures, as you're supposed to, but rather by buying underfunded DA elections. | ||
| His DAs would then change the law through the abuse of prosecutorial discretion. | ||
| That lays it out perfectly. | ||
| That's exactly what's happening. | ||
| We've talked about this on Infowars since before it even got started. | ||
| As soon as he announced it, we were on this telling people this is what he was going to do. | ||
| There's a problem though in that you can't counteract it without either making what he's doing illegal by, I don't know, Kicking him out of the country, that would be an easy... | ||
| He's not American in any way, shape, or form. | ||
| Doesn't believe in America. Doesn't contribute anything to America. | ||
| Wasn't born in America. | ||
| Doesn't even consider himself American. | ||
| Why is he allowed to micromanage our elections? | ||
| It's insane, absurd, ridiculous, and an actual existential threat to our entire governmental system. | ||
| Why we allow it to continue is a very anti-Semitic question. | ||
| But the only way you can stop this is with an equal and opposite force, right? | ||
| What are you going to do if George Soros comes into your small town, your little county in wherever, Iowa, Idaho, Illinois, and he drops $2 million into your DA race? | ||
| What are you going to do? I mean, he buys up all the ads. | ||
| He's got posters. He's got street teams. | ||
| He buses in people from outside to work as volunteers to go door knocking. | ||
| The only way to combat that is by spending another $2 million because if you're in a small town, you think you can scrape together $2 million from people who are just struggling to get by? | ||
| Think if everybody dug into their pockets and gave $1,000, maybe it would reach up to George Soros' level and they can't afford that. | ||
| They can't afford it. Like, what are they supposed to do? | ||
| So, you know, maybe... | ||
| I love what Elon's doing with Twitter, but if he wants to combat George Soros, he's got to become George Soros, but for the good guys. | ||
| He's got to take the same strategy and form massive non-governmental organizations to counteract. | ||
| Like he needs an open society foundation of his own where you're paying the salaries of tens of thousands of people to work endlessly eight hours a day, five days a week to combat this attack. | ||
| Because they have people working five days a week, eight hours a day, paid high salaries with very deep connections to the media and the intelligence agencies and everything else. | ||
| They get paid to work exclusively on perpetuating his agenda. | ||
| So to combat that, you need an equal and opposite force to combat that. | ||
| Now, Elon Musk's response to this was perfectly said. | ||
| Among other things, Soros astutely identified a massive arbitrage point opportunity in district attorney's elections where a relatively small amount of money has outsized influence. | ||
| Soros' instructions to his pet prosecutors were essentially to minimize prosecuting even violent criminals. | ||
| That's why a criminal, somebody who's already stabbed his roommate, could brutally assault Dave Chappelle on stage with that same deadly weapon and yet receive merely a misdemeanor. | ||
| So there he explains exactly how it goes and he backs it up with a real-life example of this. | ||
| And just, you know... | ||
| Obviously, in response to this, again, I'll say it again, right? | ||
| George Soros doing evil things doesn't make anybody anti-Semitic. | ||
| Talking about George Soros doing evil things doesn't make anybody anti-Semitic because we all understand that one person of an ethnicity or a race is not representative of the entire race or ethnicity. | ||
| We aren't that petulant or, you know... | ||
| Group-minded, identitarian kind of ideas. | ||
| Other people are. A lot of other people are. | ||
| I mean, they do it all the time, right? | ||
| Some psychopath shoots up a grocery store in Buffalo, New York, and suddenly all white people are to blame. | ||
| It's insane and ridiculous. | ||
| Dictator of Germany 70 years ago gets defeated by us, the Americans, and now we're to blame for what that guy did. | ||
| I mean, we get it. | ||
| You love collectivizing people. | ||
| Typically Americans don't do that. | ||
| We don't see somebody criticizing George Soros and think, ah, Soros did this, therefore all Jews are guilty of it. | ||
| That's not the way America operates, at least not how it used to operate. | ||
| That's changing very rapidly because of people like Jonathan Greenblatt. | ||
| And so then when Jonathan Greenblatt, the ADL, and by the way, the finance minister of Israel also come out in defense of George Soros, then maybe we're dealing with a bigger problem than we realized. | ||
| Israel FM blasts Musk over Twitter anti-Semitism after Soros' tweet. | ||
| So again, so he just loves George Soros? | ||
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| What? I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. Maybe it's true. | ||
| Jonathan Greenblatt says, This, again, is like, okay, you're trying to make us look ridiculous. | ||
| You're trying to... Expand what we're saying into something we're not saying and then pointing to that and saying what a ridiculous idea. | ||
| Yeah, we never said he's the source of all the world's problems. | ||
| You look at the problems that he is the direct source of and you say this is a problem, right? | ||
| You go, Soros donates to DAs who don't Solve the crime problem. | ||
| Crime gets worse. This is George Soros' fault. | ||
| And they go, oh wow, so George Soros is just the source of all of your problems all over the world? | ||
| No. We said he is the one who is the finance power behind the total and absolute destruction of the judicial system in this country because he is. | ||
| You write articles about it yourself. | ||
| You just celebrate it. | ||
| You like it. See, that's the way this works. | ||
| If you talk about what George Soros does in a positive light, You're good to go. | ||
| You're fine. You're great. | ||
| If you talk about what George Soros does in the exact same words but say you don't like it, now you're an anti-Semite and the ADL is going to come after you for it. | ||
| Regardless of intent, feed this segment comparing him to a Jewish supervillain claiming Soros, quote, hates humanity is not just distressing, it's dangerous. | ||
| It's dangerous. It will embolden extremists who already contrive anti-Jewish conspiracies and have tried to attack Soros and Jewish communities as a result. | ||
| Oh no, poor George Soros. | ||
| Poor George Soros. | ||
| He just, you know... | ||
| He's had such a hard life from his childhood, loading Jews into trains to gas them in Germany, to crashing the British pound and making billions of dollars. | ||
| Won't you just leave him alone? | ||
| Now, again, you look at the DA stuff, and that's the stuff everybody's talking about. | ||
| Obviously, because that's what he is proudly responsible for. | ||
| You don't even have to go back that far. | ||
| I mean, you can go back to the 90s where he is... | ||
| Well, hell, you can go back to the 40s when he's a literal Nazi collaborator. | ||
| Unrepentant, by the way. Unrepentant Nazi collaborator. | ||
| This is the 60 Minutes interview that I'm sure you've all seen. | ||
| Where they say, so do you regret being a Nazi collaborator? | ||
| And he's like, no. | ||
| Nope. I'm not. | ||
| Not in the slightest. It was fun. | ||
| It's just completely insane that this is the guy. | ||
| Again, you've got Jews. I guarantee you, you have Jews today whose family members... | ||
| We're loaded onto trains by George Soros, probably being told they're anti-Semitic for criticizing George Soros. | ||
| It is the most backwards, ridiculous thing you can possibly imagine. | ||
| But let's just take a look back at, I don't know, three years ago when George Soros on April 20th, 2020, says the EU should issue perpetual bonds. | ||
| See, when COVID-19 swept across the globe and the manufactured gain-of-function bioengineered weapon was released on the people of the world, And even though it was hardly worse than the flu, the entire economy shut down and people were suffering and jobs were being lost and taxes were being raised and money was being printed to make up for the policies that these people implemented. | ||
| People were worried about the economic situation. | ||
| George Soros came along with a brilliant idea. | ||
| Perpetual bondage. | ||
| Hey, I know. How about we give you the money that we invented and made up out of thin air and then you never repay the money. | ||
| You just pay us percentages on what we lent you forever without ever paying off the main part of the debt. | ||
| Perpetual bonds. | ||
| He suggested that back in 2020. | ||
| He literally aimed them perpetual bonds, like perpetual bondage, like you'll never pay this off. | ||
| How about you just enslave yourselves to us forever? | ||
| We're the good guys, and if you criticize us, you hate Jews. | ||
| Anybody falling for this anymore? | ||
| Welcome back, folks. | ||
| We'll be welcoming Laura Loomer very shortly to talk about Ron DeSantis. | ||
| We'll move on. We'll move on from Elon Musk. | ||
| I mean, I know it's just the biggest story in the world right now. | ||
| I know it's just the richest man in the world, you know, setting himself up as an alternative to the current power structure and talking about everything from George Soros to the ADL and there's articles and everything from the ruling. | ||
| But we'll move on. We'll move on. | ||
| Don't worry. There's other stuff to talk about, too. | ||
| This story, I think, is sort of a perfect encapsulation of... | ||
| The modern media landscape dishonest and just on its face ridiculous way it covers especially things that Republicans care about or things that they claim Republicans care about. | ||
| I mean you saw it in the Elon Musk interview when it's just like It's always portrayed. | ||
| There's only one way these things are portrayed, right? | ||
| If Republicans care about something, it's an attack. | ||
| It's Republicans. It's an attack. | ||
| It's a conspiracy theory. | ||
| It's another conspiracy theory. | ||
| You know, cult leader nonsense when it's just normal people being like, my child is suffering because of your policy. | ||
| Please stop it. And it becomes, what's behind the rise of Republicans? | ||
| Where's the dark money coming from that's inspiring mothers to care about their children? | ||
| Ridiculous, but it's continuous, and I don't know how people can't see through it. | ||
| Honestly, it makes me lose faith in humanity when they can be this blatant and obvious about their subversive backwards coverage, but they just do it. | ||
| This is the headline. Just get a load of this. | ||
| New Jersey. We can't let GOP weaponize New Jersey's dead whales. | ||
| I mean, that alone, you should understand everything you need to know about this story, right? | ||
| Whales are washing up dead on New Jersey Shore in massive numbers. | ||
| Numbers unseen in all of history. | ||
| So what happens? You go, wow, why are all these whales dying? | ||
| This is a unique event that probably has a cause of some sort. | ||
| Let's take a look at changes that have been made. | ||
| It turns out the only major change that's occurred in recent history is the fact that you started building wind farms in the places where these whales lived and swam. | ||
| And now they're washing up dead. | ||
| Hey, maybe it's the wind farms. | ||
| Maybe we should double check and make sure that something's not killing these whales. | ||
| As a consequence of your building the wind farms. | ||
| So, we don't want the whales to die. | ||
| Let's maybe take a look at what is looking to be the biggest cause of killing them. | ||
| And maybe let's not do the thing that's killing them. | ||
| This, according to the liberals, is the GOP's weaponizing dead whales. | ||
| They're weaponizing them now. | ||
| Right? So... We're good to go. | ||
| Because you don't like windmills for no reason. | ||
| See, they have to make your position absurd. | ||
| They have to make your position some just nonsense, absurd position that makes no sense. | ||
| They just throw that. They put that on you. | ||
| They go, you don't actually care about whales dying. | ||
| You just needlessly hate windmills for no reason. | ||
| And so you've come up with this idea that whales are dying in order to stop the windmills that you don't like because they literally picture Republicans as the bad guys from 80s movies who just do things that are mean because they like being mean. | ||
| And they constantly, constantly project that image and people actually believe it and buy it. | ||
| What's killing the whales? | ||
| And can we stop it, please? | ||
| Is this that complicated? | ||
| This is from Coastal News Today. | ||
| New Jersey summers always include the pods of dolphins and whales jumping out of the water together. | ||
| Now they're returning deceased on our shorelines. | ||
| These events are devastating, but since have morphed into a ploy against new offshore wind development. | ||
| That's killing them, I should add. | ||
| Yes, it does appear to be the offshore wind farm development that is killing these animals. | ||
| Is it a ploy when we say this is killing whales? | ||
| Stop doing this? | ||
| I mean, it's just ridiculous. | ||
| But they say the biggest threat to Wales is climate change, so we have to build the windmills that are killing them to fight the climate change. | ||
| Just like we have to save the earth because burning coal is destroying nature and destroying the earth. | ||
| So we have to stop burning coal. | ||
| We're going to cut down old-growth forests in British Columbia instead, burn the trees after we ship them across the Atlantic Ocean in gas-powered ships. | ||
| We're going to burn those in the coal plants and then say we've had zero-emission electricity generation because we burned the trees instead of the coals. | ||
| This is how utterly and completely ridiculous every single one of these climate change But they say you're engaged in a ploy and a scheme and you're a liar and you're weaponizing the damage that they're doing. | ||
| The GOP is weaponizing forests by saying don't cut them down. | ||
| New Jersey, here's the actual story from New York Post. | ||
| New Jersey Republicans want wind farm construction halted for 60 days amid surge in whale deaths. | ||
| This is the actual story. | ||
| How it's interpreted is Republicans weaponize dead whales to fight wind farms. | ||
| What it actually is, is people like, we think these wind farms are killing whales. | ||
| Maybe we should look into it. | ||
| Brief pause on construction while we investigate what's going on. | ||
| But this is absurd to them. | ||
| This is ridiculous. The GOP, just with a very reasonable, calm, normal suggestion of, like, you started doing something, whales started dying, let's double-check to make sure it wasn't your fault you're not killing these whales. | ||
| You know, they can't just tell you what Republicans are actually doing. | ||
| They need to make it sound ridiculous and absurd. | ||
| New Jersey Republicans want wind farm construction off the Garden State's coast halted for up to two months, citing concerns over a growing number of whale deaths. | ||
| GOP lawmakers said during a Wednesday hearing that the state should stop efforts to build offshore wind turbines and track whether the number of So the question is, | ||
| like, why? Don't they care? | ||
| Like, why don't they care? | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| It makes no damn sense at all. | ||
| Just every single time. | ||
| It's like, it's so obvious, it's hard to express. | ||
| It's one of those things, right? It's so obvious, it's so overt, it's so in your face that it's hard to, like, explain because if you don't get it, I'm not sure there's anything I can say to make you get it. | ||
| They do something that causes damage. | ||
| You say let's not do that thing. | ||
| They say you're weaponizing. | ||
| So what they're doing is weaponizing the climate change agenda to do things that have hugely negative consequences, whether it's spraying sulfur dioxide into the air and giant weather balloons to block out the sun or chopping down entire forests to burn them so they don't have to use coal or shutting down nuclear whether it's spraying sulfur dioxide into the air and giant weather balloons to block out the sun Nothing they do make any sense at all, even in the slightest. | ||
| Why are they so insistent on it? | ||
| Why do they insist on doing things that have negative consequences? | ||
| And why do they then have to lie in order to try to frame the people who are combating these negative outcomes as somehow dishonest and working for the oil companies who are so scared of windmills on the ocean? | ||
| Nobody cares about windmills. | ||
| They don't actually produce that much electricity. | ||
| Even to create them costs significantly more carbon than they will ever produce in their lifetime. | ||
| Windmills themselves are a crock of crap when it comes to whether they actually affect the CO2 emissions. | ||
| And on top of that, the CO2 emissions aren't the thing causing global warming if global warming is even happening, which isn't sure. | ||
| So it's just lie upon lie with these people and they do not care what damage they cause in pursuit of their madness. | ||
| They will continue doing it and they'll call you crazy for trying to stop them. | ||
| Welcome back. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the American Journal. | ||
| I'm your host, Harrison Smith. | ||
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| I am joined by Laura Loomer, well-known independent investigative journalist. | ||
| You can find it at Loomerd.com and on Substack at lauraloomer.substack.com. | ||
| She also has a YouTube, Laura Loomerd, and a Twitter, of course, at Laura Loomerd. | ||
| Thanks so much for coming on today, Laura. | ||
| Yeah, thanks so much for having me. | ||
| Very happy to have you. | ||
| I mean, you have to be one of the hardest-working people in the right-wing media sphere that I've ever met. | ||
| I know it from firsthand, from, you know, coming and documenting your Twitter protest years ago and just seeing you work behind the scenes. | ||
| It's like an extremely small team. | ||
| It's basically just you, just dominating headlines across the world. | ||
| It really is incredible. Last week, you were on about the George Soros and Mark Zuckerberg election-stealing conference. | ||
| What's the latest that you have for us? | ||
| Yeah, well, it ties right in with what you're talking about, right? | ||
| It's no secret that George Soros is playing an overwhelming influence in our elections here in the United States, but also elections abroad. | ||
| And one of the ways that they do this is through various different organizations that like to disguise themselves as nonprofit organizations. | ||
| That, you know, focus on either voting rights research or elections research, and they claim to be nonpartisan. | ||
| But, obviously, we know from looking at the founders of these organizations and their board members and the people who associate with them that they aren't, you know, the furthest thing from being nonpartisan, and they're actually radical leftist activists. | ||
| And the conference that I exposed last week in Washington, D.C., was hosted by a group called CEIR. And that, of course, was founded by David Becker, who is a radical leftist activist who once worked with Pew Charitable Trust, which of course is tied in with George Soros. | ||
| So I bring this up because this organization received $69.5 million from Mark Zuckerberg in the 2020 election season to influence our elections in key states. | ||
| And they did this, of course, by influencing Dropbox locations. | ||
| And so at this conference, we just released a lot of videos. | ||
| I have a new one coming out today. | ||
| We confronted some of the most notorious elections officials in the country who were attending this conference, some of which claim to be Republicans themselves, like Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, his attorney Ryan Germany, who, of course, is known for being on the infamous phone call that was illegally recorded. | ||
| I'm referring to the phone call with President Trump and the Georgia Secretary of State's office. | ||
| We know that Florida is a Two-party consent state. | ||
| But, of course, nobody has faced any ramifications or consequences for what they've done because, you know, we live in an unjust society. | ||
| You had an amazing show yesterday where you were talking about this. | ||
| I watched your show, and you were just talking about how, you know, we have treason that's being committed in our country by these elected officials and our law enforcement agencies, and yet nobody's going to jail. | ||
| And the same can be said of our elections officials literally committing acts of treason out in the open Attending a conference funded by Zuckerberg, whose Chinese wife—and I mentioned the fact that she's Chinese because, of course, all these other countries, our adversaries, have a stake in watching our elections become manipulated. | ||
| Because they benefit from our weak foreign policy and weak national security and open borders. | ||
| So you can play some of those clips for your audience. | ||
| Again, people can also watch the videos on my site and on my Twitter. | ||
| But you see they run away. | ||
| They're cowards. Because once you confront them, they have nothing to say. | ||
| They talk a big talk when they're on CNN, you know, talking a bunch of crap about Donald Trump. | ||
| But they run scared when you put a camera in their face. | ||
| No, 100%. I'm honestly surprised more people didn't pick up your story about the election conference. | ||
| I think I saw one article on, I believe it was Epoch Times covered it, but that's basically the only coverage I've seen other than on Infowars and from you at Lumard.com of this massive just open conspiracy taking place as they come together. | ||
| Like, what could they even be talking about that would be not remote, like, at least seemingly treasonous? | ||
| Like, what are they getting together to discuss about elections that isn't them manipulating elections? | ||
| Like, that's the only purpose they could possibly getting together for, and yet nobody's covering it. | ||
| Where is Fox News on this? | ||
| Where is Daily Wire on this? | ||
| Like, why are they not concerned about what happened in 2020, happening again in 2024? | ||
| Well, of course, Republicans benefit from voter fraud just as much as Democrats. | ||
| And we know that, in order to carry out the biggest crime of the century and the election heist of 2020, there was Republican participation as two. | ||
| So these Republican officials and the mainstream media elitists at Fox News who have openly stated that—and this is a direct quote. | ||
| You can see it yourself. I made an entire video about it on my channel. | ||
| Rupert Murdoch, who owns Fox News, who owns Wall Street Journal, who owns New York Post and HarperCollins Publishing, said that he wants to make Donald Trump a non-person. | ||
| So why would they highlight this when they have specifically said that they're going to be campaigning against Donald Trump and making sure that they sabotage his 2024 election chances? | ||
| So, you know, like the conservatives are really dropping the ball. | ||
| You don't see any initiative or any lawsuits, for that matter, filed by the GOP to combat big tech. | ||
| This is now also a violation of Georgia law. | ||
| Four days prior to this conference, Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, who's a Republican and also anti-Trump, he signed a law which bans Zuckerberg for use. | ||
| So if taxpayer funds were used to then send Brad Raffensperger and the general counsel for the Georgia Secretary of State's office to this conference, this election fortification conference funded by Zuckerberg four days later, then technically speaking, Georgia taxpayers' money is being used to, you know, Yeah, coordinate with Zuckerberg. | ||
| And it's technically going to be funded by Mark Zuckerberg. | ||
| So is anybody going to be held accountable? | ||
| Is there going to be an ethics violation filed against Raffensperger? | ||
| You know, these are the things that the Republican Party and all these local GOPs in these various states should be addressing. | ||
| You have Carrie Lake's trial that's ongoing right now. | ||
| We confronted Adrian Fontes, the Arizona Secretary of State. | ||
| This is a guy who refers to Trump supporters as MAGA fascists. | ||
| If you were a Trump supporter in Arizona, where I was born and raised actually, would you really trust your vote to be counted or your election to be fair with Trump being on the ballot in 2024 knowing that the Secretary of State calls Trump supporters MAGA fascists? | ||
| This is the same Arizona Secretary of State who was a lawyer for the cartels involved in the Fast and Furious operation that resulted in the death of Border Patrol Officer Brian Terry. | ||
| So these are bad people. | ||
| These are unethical people. | ||
| And I'm waiting right now for the video to load because it just finished exporting right before I hopped on this interview. | ||
| But you'll be able to watch that video of us confronting Adrian Fontes. | ||
| Make sure you're following me on Twitter at Laura Loomer because that's, like I said right now, it's literally uploading as we speak. | ||
| And the rest of the videos, you need to see these. | ||
| Trump! President Trump even shared my video confronting Brad Raffensperger. | ||
| So, President Trump is a fan of this work. | ||
| He's seen it himself. It was the topic of conversation at the CNN Town Hall in New Hampshire last week. | ||
| And, of course, That's a conflict of interest. | ||
| CNN, Harrison, never disclosed the fact that just two days prior to ambushing Donald Trump on stage with a question about Brad Raffensperger and the infamous phone call in Georgia in January 2021, that they were actually with Brad Raffensperger two days at this CEIR summit. | ||
| They weren't reporting on the summit. | ||
| were actively participating in a panel with Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger and the Trump impeachment manager, Jamie Raskin. | ||
| It's just so absurd. | ||
| I mean, you talk about a tangled web. | ||
| It just gets worse and worse as we move forward. | ||
| And as you're pointing out and as I pointed out yesterday, I mean, the biggest struggle about this is that like we don't even we don't need new laws. | ||
| We don't need like a revolution to set things right. | ||
| It's like if they would just enforce the laws as they're written when it comes to the election, the mail-in ballots were all imposed completely outside of the rule of law. | ||
| They were not voted on by the legislature. | ||
| The Secretary of State across the board did not have a right to say we now have mail-in ballot elections without any safety precautions whatsoever. | ||
| And as you point out, going to this conference may have very well been illegal for the Georgia officials. | ||
| So what do we have to do to just get the laws that are on the books enforced? | ||
| That would save the country, wouldn't it, Laura? | ||
| It would, but we've been screaming that from the rooftops forever, right? | ||
| So they could have addressed this years ago with Big Tech. | ||
| You know, look, I'm in favor of repealing Section 230, but the fact of the matter is that these companies have been carrying out acts of treason and aiding and abetting terrorist organizations and breaking other laws that could have otherwise been enforced by lawmakers and our Justice Department here in this country. | ||
| 100%. Used to. | ||
| I mean, yeah, sure, we could always create new legislation, but there's enough on the books already to put these criminals in prison. | ||
| Yeah, more laws that won't get enforced. | ||
| We'll be right back. More with Laura Loomer. | ||
| We'll get into DeSantis on the other side. | ||
| All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Laura Loomer is with me on Twitter at Laura Loomer. | ||
| Same on YouTube, except there's an ED at the end, Laura Loomerd. | ||
| And that's her website as well, Loomerd.com. | ||
| Loomerd.com is where you can go to support her. | ||
| She's also on Substack at... | ||
| We're going to talk about a video that you dug up of Ron DeSantis and talk about your work sort of opposing Ron DeSantis and where some of that's gone. | ||
| I want to get into that shortly, but I do want to just touch on the topic that we've been discussing for the first half of this program, which is George Soros and anti-Semitism. | ||
| Elon Musk really kicked the hornet's nest by saying, Soros reminds me of Magneto. | ||
| That statement has now been condemned by the ADL to the Finance Minister of Israel. | ||
| There's articles on every site calling him an anti-Semite. | ||
| I just want to get your take on this. | ||
| Is he a virulent Nazi for saying that Soros hates humanity and is trying to destroy America? | ||
| No, and look, I'll go a step further and say I'm Jewish myself, and George Soros is a Jewish Nazi, by his own admission, okay? | ||
| So maybe these, you know, self-hating leftist Jews over at the ADL, they should just watch the video himself. | ||
| I'm sure you guys can find it. | ||
| There's a video of Soros—I think it's on 60 Minutes or one of the shows on CBS—where he says one of the best times of his life is when he was a young boy and he helped the Nazis confiscate property from the Jews. | ||
| And he said he doesn't even believe in God. | ||
| So he's not even a practicing Jew. | ||
| He's an atheist, first of all. | ||
| And he is a Nazi sympathizer. | ||
| He's a kapo. | ||
| So I think that Elon Musk's analysis of it is spot on. | ||
| And look, we know that the ADL is a ridiculous organization. | ||
| I personally think they should be designated as a terrorist organization because of the way that they carry out terroristic actions against the First Amendment and people's free speech rights. | ||
| But these are the same people that have no problem with You know, groups like CARE or, for example, people like Linda Sarsour and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, who they run cover for because they're Democrats. | ||
| And so the ADL doesn't care about anti-Semitism. | ||
| In fact, I would say that the ADL is one of the largest exporters of anti-Semitism because of their actions against free speech. | ||
| And so, of course, people are going to be critical of Jews when they see this Jewish organization that is trying to strip everybody of their free speech rights. | ||
| I don't think that there's any issue with saying that. | ||
| They attacked Elon Musk even prior to his comments about George Soros when he was first giving accounts back, and they were trying to blame what they call a rise in anti-Semitism on Elon Musk. | ||
| But when you look at it, You only see these spikes in so-called anti-Semitism when you have groups like the ADL announcing, hey, look over here, we just formed this partnership with YouTube, and we just formed this partnership with Google and Facebook, and we're going to be cracking down as fact-checkers to silence you and destroy your livelihood and call you a white supremacist, even if you're a Jew yourself. | ||
| So we can't really take anything the ADL says seriously. | ||
| They have a serious credibility issue, and like I said, I think that their actions are terroristic. | ||
| I completely agree. | ||
| Could not agree more. I mean, they just, they use anti-Semitism, I guess, to like scare normal Jews into going along with them. | ||
| I mean, they're just, they're weaponizing this claim in the most perverse way you can imagine to actually run cover for somebody who was literally a Nazi collaborator. | ||
| I mean, it is beyond description how they use this. | ||
| But would you agree with that, that they basically use anti-Semitism as a weapon to bludgeon people into submission to their democratic, liberal nonsense policies? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. And there's another clip that we're going to be releasing this coming week. | ||
| There's just so much footage of me actually chasing Becker down the street. | ||
| I literally chased him down the street for an entire mile, just followed him across the street. | ||
| And it's like a marathon. | ||
| My God. That's David Becker during the election conference. | ||
| Leftist was an Olympic sport. | ||
| I'd be a gold medalist. | ||
| But David Becker in his book said, oh yeah, like it's anti-Semitic. | ||
| It's an anti-Semitic trope to say that Soros and Zuckerberg stole the election. | ||
| That's really anti-Semitic. | ||
| And anybody who says this should be condemned. | ||
| So I have his book in my hand and I'm chasing him down the street and I'm like, hey, so you said that it's anti-Semitic for me to call out these Jewish leftists for stealing our election. | ||
| So am I some Nazi Jew? | ||
| Because I'm Jewish myself, and I'm telling you that these Jews, these Jewish billionaires, influenced our elections. | ||
| And he had nothing to say. | ||
| because when you have actual Jews who agree with that sentiment, and trust me, there's a lot of them like, yeah, the ADL is the loudest one out there because they're the ones being amplified by these big tech executives. | ||
| But if you speak to people in ZOA or you speak to people at Chabad, or you talk to some of these more right-wing Jews in America, and even Israel, they'll tell you that these leftists are self-hating Jewish Nazis. | ||
| So this is not some kind of anti-Semitic trope. | ||
| This is rhetoric that is widely used and agreed upon within the Jewish community itself. | ||
| It's so ironic, it's hard to even fathom that by you criticizing George Soros, who was an actual Jewish Nazi, they call you a Jewish person, a Nazi. | ||
| It's as backwards as you can possibly imagine. | ||
| I wish we had more time with you. I know we don't have too much time now, so I want to get into Ron DeSantis, because you've been working very diligently to prevent Ron DeSantis from portraying himself falsely as the inheritor of the MAGA movement and as Donald Trump's superior. | ||
| I have never seen this as a legitimate claim of his. | ||
| I think he is a plant of the Bush's and the establishment to try to co-opt Trump's positions back into the establishment. | ||
| What's the latest from Ron DeSantis that you've uncovered? | ||
| Yeah, look, I would agree with you. | ||
| And, you know, it's very effective. | ||
| That's what, you know, caught President Trump's attention. | ||
| It's why President Trump wanted to hire me originally, is because of my exposés into Ron DeSantis. | ||
| And look, there's this issue in Florida where the media is scared of losing access. | ||
| So you see a lot of Florida reporters are too scared to actually hold Ron DeSantis accountable because his staff are so vindictive. | ||
| They will literally strip you of your press credential if you ask a critical question or you bring light or attention to something unethical that the governor has said or an inconsistency. | ||
| There's countless examples of that happening so far on the shadow presidential campaign book tour, as he wants to call it. | ||
| So yesterday and the day before, obviously, we know that Trump was vindicated and everybody who became a victim of the Russia collusion hoax like Roger Stone and General Flynn were vindicated as well because John Durham said it's essentially a hoax that was concocted by our crooked FBI. | ||
| He didn't say it in those words. | ||
| but you read between the lines and we all see what happens. | ||
| What we've all been saying, right? | ||
| The conspiracy theorists aren't right again. | ||
| I found this clip of Ron DeSantis on CNN from several years ago actually agreeing with CNN and saying that General Flynn should be investigated over these, you know, Russia collusion accusations. | ||
| So, you know, Ron DeSantis likes to present himself as this America First fighter and the heir apparent to Donald Trump and, I guess, the answer to our country's crisis right now. | ||
| But he's a deep state plant. | ||
| This is a guy who's a product of the military-industrial complex. | ||
| He got his political career started as a federal and military prosecutor under the Bush administration in the Navy where he oversaw torture at Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| And this is, of course, when the Patriot Act was first being I think we've been introduced to our society and our country, and we know that the Patriot Act, which they said was going to be used to combat terrorists and jihadists and Islamic terrorists all around our country and around the world, has been weaponized against conservative Americans. | ||
| It's not the Patriot Act in the sense that it was used to combat terrorism. | ||
| It's the Patriot Act in the sense that it's established to go after and hunt down American patriots. | ||
| And I think it's really interesting that the FBI has even said, oh, people who call themselves patriots or base, those are terms that you need to watch out for being extremists. | ||
| Right. They've said, you know, they've said these are the new white supremacy icons, the new symbols of white supremacy, and it's like the Gadsden flag and, like, the Betsy Ross flag. | ||
| I mean, it's absurd. I want to go quickly to the video that you just referenced. | ||
| It can be found on your Twitter and at lumered.com and, of course, on your substack, lauralumered.substack.com. | ||
| Let's go to this quick clip. | ||
| It's about 30 seconds long of Ron DeSantis on CNN years ago. | ||
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Nunez is calling for an investigation into the leaking, but not into the Russia connections here. | |
| I wonder if you're in agreement with Senator Rand Paul, who came out yesterday and said, I don't think it's useful to do investigation after investigation, particularly of your own party. | ||
| He went on to say you're not going to get anything done like Obamacare, etc. | ||
| Do you agree that, regardless of party, do you agree that that is a good frame of mind that is helpful to the American people to say maybe it's not the best thing to investigate our own party? | ||
| No, our job is to investigate facts, and when there are legitimate issues like Flynn's conversations, we should get the truth for the American people. | ||
| That's our job. Yes, very reasonable-sounding conclusion there. | ||
| So yeah, endorsing the investigation of General Flynn. | ||
| Don't have a lot of time, but what's your final words on this, Laura? | ||
| Yeah, look, Ron DeSantis is definitely a plant for the Bushes in the deep state, and this is why we have to resist aggressively this Trojan horse operation that's being carried out against the American people in the MAGA base. | ||
| So just be sure that you're following me. | ||
| I drop stories every single week, breaking a lot of election coverage and stories about DeSantis hoping to bring his poll numbers to zero. | ||
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| It's free, lauraloomer.com. | ||
| Keep up the great work, Laura. | ||
| We'd love to have you on more often and for longer. | ||
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| We've always had the same position of fighting for humanity, for nature, for God, for Earth against the despicable scumbags at the top who are engaged in a very sophisticated and decades-long program to destroy that which makes... | ||
| Life worth living. The community, the family, the friends, the heritage, the prosperity. | ||
| I mean, all of this stuff is what is being directly targeted by the globalists, and we've been fighting it the entire time, and we've been illuminating you as to their program this entire time, because for a long time it was totally secret. | ||
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| We busted down that door. | ||
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| Mr. Pine previously served as National Security Policy Director for United States Senator Mike Lee of Utah. | ||
| As an international programs manager on the Department of Army Headquarters staff, responsible for countries of the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, the Americas, and Africa from 2000 to 2003. | ||
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| Thank you so much for joining us once again, Mr. | ||
| Pine. Thanks for having me back on the show. | ||
| Well, it's my pleasure and, you know, what a time to have you on. | ||
| I mean, it seems like so many things are happening right now in the international sphere, whether it's China and Taiwan and obviously Russia, the story we covered yesterday, moving many of their strategic nuclear bombers to the border of Finland. | ||
| I mean, what stands out to you as the top story internationally when it comes to nuclear warfare right now? | ||
| What's the biggest threat we're facing? | ||
| Well, I mean, there's so many. | ||
| I mean, I still think probably one of the biggest stories is the massive Chinese nuclear buildup, where, you know, reportedly they only had like 300, maybe 250 nuclear weapons. | ||
| In fact, it's—I mean, I think they had 1,000 before this buildup even began in 2020. | ||
| But they are building 360 DF-41 silos. | ||
| The silos are totally complete, and they now have, admittedly, by U.S. intelligence, they have more strategic missile launchers than the U.S. has that are land-based. | ||
| But they're going to have probably in excess of 4,000 total nuclear weapons when this is completed, and probably closer to 5,000. | ||
| And, you know, Russia, of course, has broken out of the New START treaty. | ||
| They've announced that they've suspended adherence to that treaty, leaving, you know, the world with no arms control treaties at the nuclear level at all for the first time in the last 50-plus years since SALT 1 was first signed in 1972. | ||
| Meanwhile, the U.S. has some recent hearings exposed the fact that the U.S. doesn't even defend the U.S. against Russian or Chinese nuclear missile attack as a matter of policy. | ||
| The U.S. government is deliberately leaving us vulnerable to both nuclear missile and EMP attack and to cyber attack as well to a large extent. | ||
| And it seems like it's getting more in that direction, and of course Russia and China are teaming up right now, and there's been developments in the Chinese front. | ||
| The latest is that Lloyd Austin, and I guess the Biden administration has almost a... | ||
| I guess schizophrenic approach to China where you've got a few days ago Anthony Blinken saying we don't want to do anything to increase pressure with China. | ||
| We don't want to do anything to drive us more towards conflict with China. | ||
| And then a few days later you have Lloyd Austin confirming a significant military aid package to Taiwan. | ||
| I mean, what is America's approach to China when it comes to Taiwan? | ||
| And what is this latest development of a massive military package to Taiwan? | ||
| What does that portend for the near future in regards of that conflict? | ||
| Well, I think our objective is to keep the status quo, which is that Taiwan is a de facto independent state. | ||
| We want it to remain so. | ||
| China, of course, is planning to invade Taiwan in the very near term, most likely by the end of next year. | ||
| But what we have in the Biden administration is a president who's very pro-China. | ||
| Yes, there have been a couple of things that he's done, such as the chip war, which are You know, good from the U.S. national security standpoint. | ||
| But, I mean, we, despite this recent Taiwan aid package announcement, I mean, the average time it takes to get, you know, Military assistance to Taiwan, I think, is several years. | ||
| So I'm skeptical that this aid package will ever reach Taiwan. | ||
| We still have a backlog of $14 billion in weapons that we haven't sent Taiwan, some of which was approved during the Obama administration. | ||
| I'm not at all optimistic about getting this critical aid to Taiwan. | ||
| I'm a supporter of military aid to Taiwan. | ||
| But, of course, if we send too much, we could trigger a Chinese invasion, because they may view that as a Something of a red line, not a nuclear red line, but a red line in terms of giving the go-ahead to begin their invasion that they've been mobilizing for over the last year or so, | ||
| with hundreds of thousands of additional army reservists mobilized, including draftees, which, interestingly, they haven't done for many decades. | ||
| They've had an all-volunteer army up until last year or so. | ||
| They're clearly preparing for a major military operation, and that's most likely going to include an invasion of Taiwan. | ||
| It could also include an invasion of other smaller Pacific Island nations is what I'm predicting, but also a potential war, a direct war with the U.S., with Russia as their allies. | ||
| So I think it's critical that the U.S. pursue a policy designed to disrupt the Sino-Russian The way to do that, of course, is to pursue, I guess, kind of a reverse Nixon maneuver And to normalize our ties with Russia, to end the war in Ukraine with a Korean-style ceasefire and armistice agreement, such as I proposed back in September and October in the National Interest magazine. | ||
| And then to normalize trade and diplomatic relations, which have really deteriorated to the lowest level, even arguably during the Cold War. | ||
| So, you know, we have a lot of work to do, and it's going to require a lot of bold diplomatic initiatives that we haven't seen at all from the Biden administration, given that they've only spent about 10 minutes talking with their, you know, high-level Russian counterparts about the Ukraine war since the war began, because they've thrown a massive diplomatic temper tantrum, you know, saying, you know, we'll refuse to talk to Russia about ending the war in Ukraine. | ||
| To prolong unnecessarily this war in Ukraine and massively increase the death and destruction in Ukraine in the process. | ||
| And, you know, before the Ukraine war ever even began, I remember you were on this show. | ||
| I remember it so distinctly. Anthony Blinken was in Ukraine. | ||
| The war had not started, but Russia was already massing along the border. | ||
| I think this was in January before the war began in February of 2021. | ||
| And you really laid out, you were like, here's what they have to do to avoid war. | ||
| And if they don't do these things... | ||
| You know, Russia's going to invade within a month. | ||
| That exact same thing happened. | ||
| What's your read now on Taiwan? | ||
| Is it a similar situation where if we take the right diplomatic moves, we could avoid conflict? | ||
| I mean, what's your next? | ||
| Your last prediction was so accurate. | ||
| What's your next one, this time in terms of Taiwan? | ||
| Well, I think, unfortunately, a Chinese invasion of Taiwan by the end of next year is undeterrable. | ||
| The only way we could endure it would be through some kind of peaceful diplomatic initiative to negotiate an end to the conflict between Chinese and Taiwan, essentially a reunification agreement on the best terms possible. | ||
| But most importantly, for U.S. national security, we need to stay out of that war. | ||
| And there's a best way to do that, and that is for President Biden to do the exact same thing he did with regards to Russia and Ukraine, which is to say, under no circumstances will the U.S. Intervene militarily in any Chinese military conflict with Taiwan. | ||
| And he can do that at the same time by saying, you know, we absolutely will defend all of our treaty allies or formal treaty allies, such as Japan, the Philippines, South Korea, and Australia in the Pacific region. | ||
| So, you know, he can speak from a position of strength But also provide that needed strategic clarity, because if not, what he's doing right now in deploying nuclear missile submarines to the Korean Peninsula, and perhaps nuclear bombers as well, it's a very provocative action that invites A Chinese first strike, even if it's just a conventional hypersonic attack, that could, you know, quickly escalate to the nuclear level. | ||
| We're playing with fire, folks. | ||
| More with David Pine on the other side. | ||
| I'm sorry, we've got to go to commercial break. | ||
| We'll be right back with more. | ||
| Don't go anywhere. All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| David Pine is my guest. | ||
| He's the deputy director of the National EMP Task Force. | ||
| EMPtaskforce.us is their website, but you can find his Substack, where he posts a lot of his groundbreaking writing, at dpine.substack.com. | ||
| That's D-P-Y-N-E.substack.com. | ||
| And he also has a new book out called Catastrophe Now, America's Last Chance to Prevent an EMP Disaster. | ||
| Catastrophe Now, and it's available on Amazon where you can get the paper back there. | ||
| That's the best place to get it. Tell us about this book. | ||
| Summarize it for us. Let us know what people are going to find if they go to purchase your new book, Catastrophe Now. | ||
| Yeah, Catastrophe Now, this book right here, it's a great book. | ||
| I was one of the two main co-authors of the book. | ||
| It was a collaborative effort. | ||
| And we published it in the name of our late executive director, who sadly passed away from cancer late last summer, Dr. | ||
| Peter Prye. And, you know, it talks about—it really outlines the threat, I think, really effectively, you know, mainly from EMP, but also from nuclear missile attack and cyber attack. | ||
| And then it provides, you know, real-world solutions. | ||
| That's, I think, what distinguishes it from a lot of our prior books and most books out today, is it doesn't just outline the threat. | ||
| It provides, you know— Clear, insightful recommendations for how to quickly strengthen our nuclear deterrent in a matter of weeks, and also long-term steps, | ||
| as well as a strategy to We're good to counter the Chinese threat without war, because that's what's so critical, is to avoid an unnecessary world war with Russia and China, which are allies that could quickly escalate to the nuclear level. | ||
| Because if we were to begin fighting a direct war against Russia, I think China would join the fight against us. | ||
| Either sending military forces directly to Ukraine or more likely to invade Taiwan and take out U.S. military bases in the Pacific region and attack our allies as well. | ||
| So it gives a multi-step approach. | ||
| I think we're good to go. | ||
| I think we're good to go. | ||
| For ending the war and normalizing relations with Russia really could end the war and save a lot of Ukrainian lives and bring peace and stability to Europe, while also providing for Ukraine's security against a potential Russian follow-on attack. | ||
| I guess my question is, is it a matter of ability or will? | ||
| I mean, are they trying to do that and just not capable of it? | ||
| Because it seems to me like they're drawing fault lines across the world, whether it's by visiting South Korea and Japan and what's happening in the Middle East right now with the big reorganization going on there. | ||
| I mean, it seems like the fault lines are being drawn. | ||
| It seems like the people in power are pushing us towards war willfully, not because they're trying to prevent it and not capable, Because they have no interest in preventing the war. | ||
| I mean, what you're reading on this, are we driving towards war because we can't help it? | ||
| We're trying to stop and we just can't put our foot on the brakes? | ||
| Or, you know, is our leadership pressing the accelerator on purpose? | ||
| They're pressing the accelerator on purpose. | ||
| So we've been pursuing, you know, since the end of the Cold War, we've been pursuing a failed strategy of liberal hegemony in which we, you know, we've tried to expand NATO eastward all the way to Russia's border, which is something we never did during the Cold War. | ||
| You know, which we won. | ||
| We won the Cold War without having to do that. | ||
| So I should tell you how unnecessary this really was. | ||
| And Eastern Europe was—we were happy to leave Eastern Europe under Russian control for half a century. | ||
| And, of course, Ukraine. | ||
| So the idea that Ukraine has magically become a national security interest in the United States is really absurd. | ||
| The area of Ukraine that's being fought over is the size of Lithuania. | ||
| And if that were to become permanently part of Russia from now until forever, it wouldn't affect U.S. or even NATO security at all. | ||
| It's not a Western security matter. | ||
| It's really It's just a matter of hubris, that we can poke the Russian bear as much as we want, poke them in the eye, and they're not going to do anything back. | ||
| Well, I can almost guarantee you that Putin's planning with Xi to retaliate. | ||
| He's been very restrained thus far and has been kind of planning long-term as we've been blowing up Russian infrastructure, most especially the Nord Stream pipeline. | ||
| But yeah, it's a Cold War mentality. | ||
| And I'm an old Cold Warrior, so I kind of think that way. | ||
| But I also think in a more original and innovative way as a foreign policy realist to try to come up with a new strategy, which could actually work to divide the Sino-Russian alliance. | ||
| And to ensure peaceful coexistence with Russia and China, because they're not going anywhere. | ||
| You know, Putin's going to outlast Biden, you know, by over a decade easily. | ||
| And that's assuming he gets reelected, which, you know, I mean, I think he probably will. | ||
| But it's kind of a joke, because, you know, having an 86-year-old president is something we only see in communist countries. | ||
| And unfortunately, that's We're seeing Marxism come to the U.S., and not only the U.S., but every other major country in the Western Hemisphere is now under far-left or Marxist control. | ||
| So that's really a sad thing to see happen. | ||
| It is, and it's so frustrating. | ||
| I think I may have said this last time you were on, but, you know, you look back in history and you see, like, the run-up to World War I, and you think, how did people not know what was going to happen? | ||
| How was nobody standing up to stop this before it really started going, before the trenches were dug and the bombs started falling? | ||
| How could they not see what a catastrophe this would have been? | ||
| I feel like we're in the same position now, where you see us moving headlong towards World War, and we're here Why is nobody stopping this? | ||
| Hopefully your book can give people an idea of what can actually be done to prevent this and put the brakes on it and stop another historical disaster from happening. | ||
| So again, the book is Catastrophe Now, America's Last Chance to Prevent an EMP Disaster. | ||
| I mean, is that what your book provides a way out of this mess before it really becomes something that we have to look back in history and go, how did people fall into this nuclear conflict? | ||
| Is that what your book does? | ||
| That's exactly what it does, yeah. | ||
| You know, like you said, World War I and World War II were eminently foreseeable, and there were a lot of leaders, including Kaiser Wilhelm and, to a lesser extent, British leaders, that were trying to avoid war, you know, unlike France and Austria and Russia. | ||
| You know, France is the only country that really wanted a world war because they wanted to take back Alsace-Lorraine. | ||
| So they kind of—I think they were involved in the assassination of the Archduke. | ||
| World War II, you know, another case where Hitler's claims were limited to the Polish quarter at Danzig, which were German-majority regions when they were annexed by Poland. | ||
| And in fact, according to my recent research and article, Missed Opportunities for Peace, The Secret Diplomatic History of World War II, I showed with lots of links and resources that Britain actually wanted to give that territory back to Germany because they thought it was unjust for a 25-year period before the war began. | ||
| I missed that article. | ||
| I'm going to have to read that on your Substack, dpine.substack.com. | ||
| We'll be back with more. We'll get into the latest from Ukraine. | ||
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Stay with us. You're tuned in to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith. | |
| Watch it live right now at band.video. | ||
| Hi! All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| My guest is David Pine. | ||
| The Substack is dpine.substack.com. | ||
| His new book is called Catastrophe Now, America's Last Chance to Prevent an EMP Disaster. | ||
| I mean, now is the time we're rapidly running out of time to prevent this world war that seems to be coming down the pipe. | ||
| It's almost impossible to even lay out in a list just how many things are happening right now across the world. | ||
| These are all just from the last day or two. | ||
| Putin participates in ceremony of signing agreement on the construction of a railway together with the Iranian president. | ||
| So we're seeing Russia and Iran and the Middle East and Syria being welcomed back in the Middle East camp. | ||
| You've got another meeting going on talking about how China is posing a lot of threats to the transatlantic cooperation, NATO and all that. | ||
| Top military leaders from U.S., Japan, India and Australia take part in Quad Meeting for Indo-Pacific Security. | ||
| Faced with an increasingly assertive China-Washington-led alliance poised to deepen security and defense cooperation in the region. | ||
| You've got Lloyd Austin yesterday confirming a significant military aid package to Taiwan. | ||
| Russia creating unstoppable submarine nuclear missiles. | ||
| That story was from two days ago. | ||
| Russia's nuclear-capable Tu-95, Tu-160 bombers deployed near NATO border as tensions escalate with Ukraine-China. | ||
| Just a smattering of headlines for you, really illustrating the worldwide fault lines being drawn that seem to be pushing us towards world war. | ||
| And you have a very interesting article on your substack. | ||
| D-P-Y-N-E.substack.com Missed Opportunities for Peace The Secret Diplomatic History of the Second World War and you try to take lessons from the Second World War and the lead-up to that massive detrimental conflict and try to apply them to the current status of... | ||
| You know, the countries of the world, the Ukraine conflict and others. | ||
| Is that right? So you're taking what happened in the 1930s and 40s and going, how does that compare to what's going on today? | ||
| What conclusions did you draw from that comparison? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think it was Prince Audubon Bismarck that stated, those who refuse to lurk the mistakes of history are condemned to repeat them. | ||
| And we're seeing that play out right before our very eyes. | ||
| There were two unnecessary—so great power alliances transformed two regional wars in Eastern Europe into unnecessary world wars, World War I and II, that cost the lives of about 110 million. | ||
| You know, we now have a conflict in Eastern Europe that NATO, our Great Power Alliance, as a member of NATO, is transformed into a potential third world war that could cost 700 million, maybe even a billion lives. | ||
| And the Biden administration is really doing little to nothing to try to resolve it. | ||
| They're just trying to prolong what's essentially a modern-day Cuban missile crisis, bringing us to the brink of a nuclear war with Russia and China. | ||
| I mean, the chances of that, I think, with regards to Ukraine, are no greater than 30 percent. | ||
| But, I mean, that's a huge percent. | ||
| And, you know, we just can't take that kind of chance when it comes to losing the lives of over 200 million Americans. | ||
| So, yeah, what I try to do in this article is to show the historical analogies. | ||
| And, you know, we had— The greatest misconception we hear is that the Munich Pact is what led to World War II. In fact, the Munich Pact actually delayed the outbreak of World War II and had a British policy of a combination of Germany, a limited strategic accommodation of Nazi Germany in areas that were not a vital interest to Britain or France, | ||
| that policy would have succeeded in avoiding World War II entirely and getting Hitler and Stalin to fight each other that policy would have succeeded in avoiding World War II entirely and getting And that's really the whole strategic concept. | ||
| We read about Sun Tzu and this ancient Chinese military strategist. | ||
| And, you know, I mean, one of the greatest ways to win wars is to get your enemies to fight each other so you don't have to. | ||
| You know, so that was really. | ||
| There were both British and, to a lesser extent, French conservatives who actually had that mentality, especially Prime Minister Baldwin and, to a lesser extent, Chamberlain. | ||
| They both supported a policy of Getting Hitler to drive east, you know, and, you know, Hitler really had renounced any plans to move west. | ||
| You know, he was really kind of fearful of war with Britain and France. | ||
| But probably one of the most interesting and little-known facts about the war is on day two of the war, Hitler offered to stop and to withdraw all German troops from Poland except for the Polish quarter, which was 4.3 percent of Polish territory at the time. which was 4.3 percent of Polish territory at the time. | ||
| And we had a very similar offer by President Putin. | ||
| Day two of the war, he offered to withdraw from all but 6.4 percent of Ukraine's pre-war controlled territory. | ||
| And sadly, his offer was rejected. | ||
| You know, initially, Ukraine entertained that and, you know, kind of made this tentative peace agreement with Russia on March 31st in Istanbul, which would have seen the Russian withdrawal of From six of Russian-occupied—six of eight out of eight Russian-occupied Ukrainian oblasts, four of which have since been annexed. | ||
| So that would have been a far greater peace in terms for Ukraine, a much bigger victory than they could possibly achieve now, with Russia saying that their minimum peace terms are now Russian retention of control of the four annexed Ukrainian oblasts. | ||
| But, yeah, with regards to the outbreak of World War II, you know, it's—I mean, the true history of the war as it began was, you know, Chamberlain offered to mediate peace talks between Germany and Poland over the Polish quarter issue in Danzig. | ||
| And then, actually, that same day, Mussolini, the Italian dictator Mussolini, proposed a four-power conference in which those issues would be decided by the great powers of Britain, France, | ||
| Germany, and Italy. And the following day, September 2nd, is when Hitler accepted this armistice offer, but he requested a one-day delay to implement a ceasefire and armistice, which France supported, Italy supported it, but Britain rejected it. | ||
| Chamberlain was under tremendous pressure from Churchill and other war monarchs to We're good to go. | ||
| But because, you know, that was almost inevitable. | ||
| Yeah, very similar to World War I and their agreement with Belgium that, you know, it's again Britain sort of causing these things to spiral out of control. | ||
| It seems like the only lesson that our leadership has learned from World War II is the opposite of From what you just said, I mean, it's the inverse. | ||
| It's that appeasement, it was the appeasement that caused the war to happen. | ||
| And so, you know, they bring that up to say we cannot appease Russia in any way at all or else it's going to be World War II. I mean, that's the exact wrong lesson to be learning, isn't it? | ||
| That's right, yeah. I mean, the lesson to be learned is, you know, it wasn't appeasement that started the war, it was the abandonment of appeasement. | ||
| Now, appeasement has become a dirty word, and certainly, you know, you can accommodate an enemy power too much without getting enough in return. | ||
| But, you know, that's not what we're talking about. | ||
| We're talking about, you know, ending the war with essentially along the line of control, is what I proposed in a Korean-style armistice agreement between Russia and Ukraine, and then leave, you know, leave the final peace agreement to be negotiated at a later date. | ||
| And that could be implemented within days. | ||
| I mean, you know, Putin has been Very sincere about wanting peace since he invaded. | ||
| You know, it's ironic, of course, because he was the aggressor. | ||
| He's the one who invaded Ukraine. | ||
| And yet from day two of the war, he's been offering a Russian military withdrawal or, in this case, just a ceasefire to end the conflict without any additional Russian territorial acquisitions. | ||
| War's over if you want it. | ||
| We'll be right back. We've got to get a break. | ||
| We'll be right back. Alright folks, welcome back. | ||
| This is the American Journal. | ||
| Harrison Smith, your host. | ||
| I am here with David Pine. | ||
| He's the Deputy Director of National Operations for the EMP Task Force on National and Homeland Security. | ||
| An expert in Nuclear warfare and the effects of it, especially how those weapons can be used to create an EMP to knock out electronics across the entire country if our enemies choose to. | ||
| And there will be very little we can do about it because the people in office haven't prioritized defense in that regard. | ||
| But a man with really great foresight has been proven with his interviews here on American Journal and elsewhere. | ||
| Where he's made predictions that have later been proven true. | ||
| I mean, that's a track record you really can't deny. | ||
| And I'm going to ask you, Mr. | ||
| Pine, about a couple things here. | ||
| Oh, and of course you can find his new book, I should mention, Catastrophe Now, America's Last Chance to Prevent an EMP Disaster, which really lays out the threat that we're in and how to avoid it. | ||
| You can find that at... | ||
| It's called Catastrophe Now. | ||
| And his sub stack is dpine.substack.com. | ||
| And I want to play a video real quick. | ||
| I want you to get your opinion on this. | ||
| It's from conservative Tobias Elwood from the UK. Now just to remind everybody, we are not at war with Russia. | ||
| There's been no declaration of war. | ||
| NATO is not at war with Russia. | ||
| UK is not at war with Russia. | ||
| And yet our politicians are constantly making comments like this. | ||
| And I want to play the comment and get your response to it on the other side. | ||
| Here is Tobias Elwood telling the UK that they're at war with Russia even though they're not. | ||
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We are now at war in Europe. | |
| We need to move to a war footing. | ||
| We are involved in that. | ||
| We've mobilized our procurement processes. | ||
| We're gifting equipment. | ||
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We need to face Russia directly rather than leaving Ukraine to do all the work. | |
| So there he is advocating for directly confronting Russia over Ukraine. | ||
| I mean, talk about World War. | ||
| I mean, that's what it would take, right? | ||
| What's your take on this, Mr. | ||
| Pine? Well, first let me say that in no way was I defending Hitler in the previous segment. | ||
| You know, Hitler was a mass-murdering monster, a genocidal maniac. | ||
| But he really was quite sincere about wanting peace with Britain and France. | ||
| So that was where I was going with that. | ||
| But in terms of this, I mean, this is just crazy talk. | ||
| The idea that, you know, Britain used to be the premier global power on the planet. | ||
| You know, that, of course, ended perhaps in the 1920s or so. | ||
| But they no longer are. | ||
| They're a second-rate nuclear power. | ||
| I mean, they're a great power. | ||
| Let's be clear. They're a great power. | ||
| Any country with nuclear weapons is a great power. | ||
| But their nuclear arsenal is massively smaller than Russia. | ||
| So they really—I mean, of all the countries that shouldn't be messing with Russia, other than Poland and the Baltic states, I would argue that Britain is— It's really, you know, being unwise and doing what Dr. | ||
| Peter Price warned against, and that is playing with nuclear fire, as you stated as well. | ||
| So we've seen this kind of rhetoric. | ||
| The German foreign minister was caught in a video statement to, I think, the EU, saying that we, as in the EU, were fighting a war against Russia. | ||
| And that's a fact. | ||
| We are fighting kind of a low-grade proxy war against Russia. | ||
| It's an undeclared war. | ||
| We don't want—I mean, there are very few people other than hotheads like the British minister or MP that you played just now that want a direct war with Russia, because they understand that a direct war with Russia would inevitably escalate to the cyber and likely EMP and nuclear level as well. | ||
| You know, the U.S. and NATO would not survive a war with Russia. | ||
| Just wouldn't. You know, we would not be the victors. | ||
| You know, Russia has really—you know, Putin has forced the Russian military to fight almost with kind of a Vietnam War, a limited military, you know, action situation where, you know, the full might of the Russian military is not being allowed to be unleashed. | ||
| There's not—you're not seeing any large-scale offensives. | ||
| Really, since, I think, March or April, you know, in which they occupied, at one point or another, 30 percent of Ukrainian territory, including Crimea. | ||
| So we really need to avoid this crazy talk about a direct war with Russia, because, you know, that's going to lead to a nuclear apocalypse or an EMP apocalypse, I think. | ||
| I don't see any other way that it goes. | ||
| I mean, maybe it's just – maybe it's overconfidence. | ||
| In fact, maybe that's a good transition to this next story I want to ask you about because there seems like an overconfidence that almost leads to a willful blindness to our actions. | ||
| As you point out, whether it was the 1930s or happening with Putin now, it's like you've got to – You've got to at least be able to, like, look from their point of view and go, now why are they doing this? | ||
| What do they want here? How does our actions appear to them? | ||
| Because it appears as though our intelligence agency hasn't even considered that. | ||
| This is from a story from Harper's Magazine. | ||
| Why are we in Ukraine? | ||
| And I just want to read this paragraph and get your response to it. | ||
| Typifying the egocentrism that governs the U.S. approach to the world in general and relations with Russia in particular, not one of these future... | ||
| Military and intelligence leaders has thought to connect, even in the past year, what they believe would be Washington's response to the hypothetical situation in Mexico with Moscow's reaction to NATO's expansion and policy towards Ukraine. | ||
| In other words, this author asked them, what if Moscow was doing in Mexico what we're doing in Ukraine? | ||
| Put yourself in Russia's shoes. | ||
| And the response that they got... | ||
| When the analysts had drawn these connections, the military and intelligence officers have been taken aback, in many cases admitting, as the analyst reports, damn, I never thought out what we're doing to Russia in that light. | ||
| So they haven't even considered how our actions by encroaching on Russia, by putting missiles in Ukraine, by weaponizing Ukraine and carrying out coups in Ukraine— How does Russia feel about that? | ||
| Just like how would we feel if Russia was doing that in Mexico? | ||
| It's never even considered to them. | ||
| I mean, is it that type of egocentrism, solipsism that's really driving us towards world war? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's neoconservative and neoliberal war propaganda that really prevents us from being able to think through our enemy's eyes, to see through our enemy's eyes. | ||
| And I say enemy. Russia shouldn't be an enemy. | ||
| It's only an enemy because we've made it one. | ||
| Unlike China, which will always be an enemy of the U.S. by virtue of its communist government, there's no reason for us to be at war with Russia or to really have any... | ||
| You know, I mean, we were at peace with Russia for quite a long time. | ||
| This is a relatively new occurrence where we're risking an unnecessary world war with them. | ||
| But, yeah, that article is absolutely right. | ||
| And I would go much farther than that. | ||
| As I wrote in my article in The National Interest on July 8th of last year, You know, my article is entitled, U.S. leaders need more strategic empathy for Russia. | ||
| And the correct analogy isn't Mexico, it's Texas. | ||
| If Texas were to have succeeded, because Ukraine, of course, was part of the Soviet Union, you know, was essentially almost part of Russia— If Texas had seceded three decades ago, had allied with Russia and China, | ||
| and imported 1,000 troops from Russia and China, and tens of thousands of weapons systems, including ballistic and cruise missiles, we would have invaded Texas, bombed and invaded Texas, And annexed all of Texas without any—with little regard to civilian casualties, and we would have called it a defensive war. | ||
| And that's essentially—that's the best analogy of what Russia has done, except they have no intention to annex all of Ukraine, just the 18 or perhaps 20 percent at most of Ukrainian internationally recognized territory. | ||
| So they're actually behaving in a way that I would argue is a little bit less You know, kind of warlike than U.S. would under similar or the same circumstances. | ||
| And if we could understand that, then I think we would forget this absolutist mentality, which caused two previous world wars, which there can be no concessions, no territorial concessions, even if In the case of the Donbass, nearly half the population are ethnic Russians, 75 percent Russian-speaking. | ||
| I think at this point, if a non-fraudulent referendum were held in the Donbass, it would likely vote for union with Russia. | ||
| I wouldn't say that's the case with the other two oblasts that Russia annexed. | ||
| But we just—we have to get back to, you know, a foreign policy realist mentality that, you know, every president of the United States up until George H.W. Bush were foreign policy realists willing to negotiate with Russia in terms of reciprocal concessions. | ||
| I mean, Reagan was one of the best examples. | ||
| The Cold War wouldn't have ended. | ||
| It wouldn't have ended peacefully without Reagan's willingness to engage in reciprocal arms control agreements in which we gave up a lot and the Russians gave up a lot in return. | ||
| At a time, as you note, we actually had much more ideological difference with Russia than we do now. | ||
| We could do it then but can't do it now is so absurd. | ||
| I love that phrase, strategic empathy. | ||
| That's the perfect phrase. | ||
| And of course, just to bring up Sun Tzu again, that's his number one law, right? | ||
| Is if you understand yourself and understand your enemy, then you can't be defeated. | ||
| It seems like our warriors are operating with a complete ignorance of the position of their enemies, which guarantees defeat, according to Sun Tzu. | ||
| And it's a... It's a truth that has persisted throughout the ages. | ||
| David Pine, dpine.substack.com. | ||
| The book is Catastrophe Now, America's Last Chance to Prevent an EMP Disaster. | ||
| Thank you so much for being with us, sir. | ||
| Thank you. All right, folks, that's going to do it for us. | ||
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