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greg reese ▲ ● ▼		All three of the Abrahamic religions teach that lending to the poor is an act of compassion that serves the entire community, and therefore charging interest was seen as immoral,
		It was called usury and was considered a heinous crime.
		The Roman Empire allowed usury, but in 1179, the Catholic Church decreed that usury was forbidden.
		This law did not apply to Jews.
		While the Torah admonishes usury, Talmudic law allows a Jew to practice usury with a non-Jew, and so money lending became primarily a Jewish business.
		Over the years, usury became more accepted in Western society and we've changed the definition with the addendum of charging interest at an excessive rate.
		In the 17th century, the Bank of England began issuing paper fiat money.
		This gave the banks the ability to simply print money out of thin air.
		And for over a century, this was rightfully called out as fraud, until it became public policy, known now as fractional reserve banking.
		What was once seen as immoral is now seen as normal.
		Many assume that the financial loans given out by the banks are coming from savings they hold for their depositors.
		But this is not true.
		When someone takes out a loan, the bank creates new money out of thin air and then charges the person interest to borrow it.
		Fractional reserve banking allows the banks to legally create 10 times the amount of each deposit.
		This inflating of the circulating currency devalues that currency and allows the banks an opportunity to profit dramatically.
		The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 began a system of debt designed to inflate beyond its means until it implodes, the exact opposite of sound money.
		The banking cartel funded both sides of World War I, which led to the Great Depression, which led to the Emergency Banking Act of 1933, which ended the gold standard and made every dollar spent an IOU to further increase the debt, which is ultimately owed by the American people.
		The banking cartel funded both sides of World War II, which led to the Bretton Woods monetary system, which made the USD the world reserve currency, and gave central banks the option to go straight to the gold window of the U.S. Treasury to exchange U.S. dollars for physical gold.
		But by endlessly creating more debt, it became clear that the U.S. had printed far beyond their gold reserves.
		And when several nations came to collect their gold, the federal government dishonorably closed the gold window.
		To maintain world reserve currency status, the U.S. turned to its military, guns for hire to Saudi Arabia in return for the petrodollar, and war with any nation who threatens USD dominance.
		A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that pays existing investors with funds collected from new investors.
		And that's what the bankers created.
		They profit exponentially off the people's debt.
		It was designed to collapse, and that's what it's doing now.
		All the markets are crashing.
		And the derivatives market alone is in the quadrillions, which is much more than the total financial assets of the entire world.
		There is nothing left to prop up the dollar.
		This Ponzi scheme is at its end.
		What that means is that the money you have in the banks will disappear.
		Everything will go to zero, and then we reset.
		How we do that will ultimately be up to the people.
		The banking cartel knows that the only way they can survive this collapse is to somehow convert everyone to an authoritarian CBDC. But without the people's trust, the banks will have problems with this.
		Many people will lose everything and will want nothing but justice from the old banking system.
		But many others will comply.
		Hard times are coming fast.
		And if we were smart, we'd prepare.
		Let the big banks die and create a banking system that serves we the people.
unidentified		You're listening to The American Journal with your host, Chase Geyser.
		Watch it live right now at band.video.
		Good morning, America. Welcome back to The American Journal.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Your host today, Chase Geiser, filling in again for the great Harrison Smith.
		So much going on.
		It has been an honor and a pleasure to be with you every day this week covering all of the great news.
		You know, I was thinking on the way over here, because that's the only time I really think during the day is the 15-minute drive to the studio.
		The rest of the day, I just sort of sit and look in the mirror and say, I'm not crazy, you are!
		I was thinking on the way over here how all the articles I wanted to cover and all the links that we sent over to the crew to print out for the show today last night when I was preparing.
		It's so crazy how we have this intelligence community that's so focused on secrecy and protecting against leaks.
		And our government seems to be doing so much without the knowledge or awareness of the American people.
		Yet, if you go on any major media outlet...
		Or if you simply just go to news.google.com and just look at the sheer list of articles posted every day.
		They literally just send these public reports, like their public service announcements, out to all of the people saying all the crazy stuff that they're doing all the time.
		You just have to be able to read between the lines.
		A lot of people who can read out there, but not a lot of people who can read between the lines.
		But I know that's not the case for you, given that you are on InfoWars, watching live on band.video, or anywhere else that this broadcast is streaming.
		So I do appreciate having such a distinguished audience listening today.
		Got a new report here from the National Pulse that Zelensky and his generals embezzled at least $400 million from the United States aid last year, according to intelligence.
		Ukrainian authorities in Kiev have embezzled $400 million last year at least of U.S. taxpayers' money, according to veteran American journalist Seymour Hersh.
		We recently grabbed headlines for his long-read article describing how it was the government of the United States that blew up the Nord Stream pipeline.
		We actually covered that very article that this is referring to just a couple of days ago right here on the show.
		This journalist is actually someone I'd never heard of, but apparently he's got quite the resume of outstanding stories that he's broken over the years.
		So it was a pleasure for me to see this report regarding his investigation again here today.
		Now, a new substack by Hirsch reveals explosive details of how the United States, UK, and European taxpayer cash is being used to line the pockets of Ukrainian politicians, including President Zelensky and his allies.
		Gosh, I wish somebody would have mentioned or suggested that it was possible that there was going to be money laundering in Ukraine.
		I mean, what are we supposed to expect?
		We basically had a coup in Ukraine just a few years ago installing this new leadership to try to sway Ukraine from being friendly to Russia to being friendly to the United States.
		And we know from the Hunter Biden laptop leaks that...
		Money laundering is not something that the Ukrainians are unfamiliar with.
		So while you're working hard, and I've had several great callers call in this week.
		One gentleman was on a ladder.
		You could literally hear the wind blow by as he was working, trying to provide for his family.
		Others have been driving across the country.
		Some call in from the truck, if they're trucking.
		While you work night and day to provide for your family and pay your taxes...
		We ship it over to Ukraine only for it to be laundered.
		Now, I'm not sure if the crew has this clip ready, but speaking about this reminded me of clip number seven.
		Let me know if you have clip number seven ready.
		Okay, cool. Let's go ahead and fire up clip number seven about really how this all started in Ukraine.
dave smith ▲ ● ▼		In 2014, there was a coup in Ukraine that was completely led by the West.
		I don't know if you've ever heard, but, like, I think I sent you, actually, once the tape of Gideon Rose, who was the editor for Foreign Affairs magazine on the old Stephen Colbert Report, and he was just openly bragging about what the game is here.
		And he was like, well, Ukraine is kind of like the Robin to Russia's Batman.
		And so our job is to steal Robin away from Batman and make him come over here and join us.
		And aha, Vladimir Putin's so stupid that he won't do anything.
		And then Colbert's in his old character.
		So he's like, well, shouldn't Obama be spiking the football and saying, yeah, in your face, Putin?
		And Gideon Rose is like, well, no, no, because then Putin might invade Ukraine.
unidentified		So we wouldn't want to spike the ball.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Well, we spiked the ball, folks, because Putin did invade Ukraine.
		More damning for the Ukrainian president, however, is the claim that the senior generals and government officials in Kiev were angry at what they saw as Zelensky's greed, alleging that, quote, he was taking a larger share of the skim money than was going to the generals.
		So, they're all skimming the aid money that we're sending over to Ukraine.
		And his generals were angry because they felt that Zelensky was taking a disproportionate amount of the money from the heist.
		From the steal.
		Right? They're robbing the bank that is the United States of America.
		And Zelensky thinks he deserves a little bit of extra cut.
		You know, it reminds me a lot of that very first scene in Batman A Dark Knight where they're doing the bank heist with the Joker and they're all wearing those crazy masks.
		It's a famous scene.
		I remember it was just an amazing opening for that movie.
		Of course, the Joker was portrayed by the great Heath Ledger.
		And... As every single individual within that scene was done with their particular role of the heist, whether it was to drive the bus in, whether it was to crack the safe, whether it was to disable the alarms, the other partner that they were with would knock them out so that they could take a larger cut of the steel in the end.
		And that's what we see here happening in Ukraine.
		We see a bunch of criminals robbing a bank in a coordinated effort, And they're disappointed because the Joker, Zelensky, is taking a disproportionate cut.
		According to Seymour Hersh, U.S. cash has also been spent buying discount diesel from Russia itself, effectively helping fuel both sides of the conflict that continues to enrich the elite and the defense corporations.
		The Ukraine government, headed by Volodymyr Zelensky, has been using American taxpayer funds to pay dearly for the vitally needed diesel fuel that is keeping the Ukrainian army on the move in its war with Russia.
		It is unknown how much the Zelensky government is paying per gallon for the fuel, but the Pentagon was paying as much as $400 per gallon to transport gasoline from a port in Pakistan via truck or parachute into Afghanistan during the decades-long American war there.
		So he's skimming the money, and then with the remaining money that they have, they're purchasing fuel from the enemy?
		That seems like a conflict of interest to me.
		I can't imagine a situation in which we storm the beach at Normandy with diesel that was purchased from the Nazis.
		What also is unknown is that Zelensky has been buying the fuel from Russia, the country, with which it and Washington are at war.
		And the Ukrainian president and many in his entourage have been skimming untold millions from the American dollars earmarked for diesel fuel payments.
		One estimate by analysts from the Central Intelligence Agency put the embezzled funds at $400 million last year at least.
		Another expert compared the level of corruption in Kiev as approaching that of the Afghan war, although there will be no professional audit reports emerging from the Ukraine.
		I'm actually very surprised that the intelligence community is acknowledging or admitting that $400 million has been embezzled.
		I would think that this would be something that they would want to keep secret given how determined the United States is to engage in this proxy war and given how antagonistic they've been regarding the leaked documents from the whistleblower just this week.
		I wonder if the reason they are starting to let news out like this is because they foresee a future in which they no longer want to participate in this war.
		I wonder if the intelligence community has begun to admit that the war in Ukraine is unwinnable and perhaps it is time to begin changing the narrative to get us out of this conflict.
		I certainly hope that's the case.
		All war is hell and I pray for a swift resolution.
		Stick with me, folks. We're going to be taking calls in the second hour today.
		Got more great news coming up in the next segment.
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		Stay tuned, folks. Welcome back to the American Journal, folks. I was looking all over my house the other day.
unidentified		My wife and I have this argument where...
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		You can't decide who's responsible for doing the laundry.
		So, she'll do the laundry and then something will go missing out of my pockets or not all the socks will show up or something and I'll get frustrated and I'll say that I'm going to do it for a week and then I don't end up doing it at all and it piles up and then I ask her to do it.
		It's been this back and forth that we have.
		Yesterday, I spent three hours looking all over the place for $400 million that I just can't find and turns out It was being skimmed by Zelensky the whole time.
		So they arrested that air guardsman in connection with leaked documents.
		The FBI arrested a 21-year-old Massachusetts Air National Guardsman in connection with a leak of what appear to be highly classified intelligence documents.
		A security breach of that posed a threat to the U.S. ties to some allies in efforts to support Ukraine in its fight against Russia.
		Federal agents took Jack Douglas...
		I don't even know how to say his name...
		Texara? I'm going to say Texara.
		Into custody in Dighton, Massachusetts, on Thursday afternoon.
		Television footage showed armed agents leading a male wearing red shorts and an olive green t-shirt with his hands cuffed behind his back.
		So, if you ever feel like you're going to be arrested in some sort of a major scandal that's going to be televised...
		Make sure you wear like a Biden for president t-shirt.
		Not this olive green stuff with the red shorts.
		Wear like a Biden-Harris.
		Something like that. It's just not a good look.
		Attorney General Merrick Garland confirmed the Guardsman's arrest in connection with the investigation into alleged unauthorized removal, retention, and transmission of classified national defense information.
		Mr. Garland declined to elaborate, citing the probe.
		Guardsman was expected to appear Friday in federal court in Massachusetts.
		An attorney for the guardsman couldn't be immediately identified and members of his family couldn't be reached for comment.
		Now we covered some of the details of this guardsman the other day on the show.
		And we talked about how the Washington Post framed him as sort of a right-wing radical extremist.
		And then we drew parallels based on Glenn Greenwald's awesome observation between the coverage of this whistleblower's leak and the way that they handled Edward Snowden when they had the editorial review panel publish that article back in 2016 or 2017, I think. It was in September.
		Regarding whether or not President Barack Obama should pardon Edward Snowden.
		They said, of course, vehemently no.
		Then we tied in how this implies that the intelligence community has infiltrated all the mainstream media outlets.
		And here we are again, reading from the Wall Street Journal, which actually is doing a much better job than the Washington Post of trying to appear unbiased, at least.
		Covering And releasing the information regarding this young 21-year-old guardsman.
		A lot of people think he's a patsy because they can't understand how it is that a 21-year-old Air National Guardsman had access to such highly classified information.
		And that is a curious question.
		I'm not ready to dive in and just adopt that conspiracy theory yet.
		But why is it that our intelligence community is giving access to such sensitive information to such a seemingly inconsequential member of the military community?
		So he's either a patsy or he's not, obviously.
		But If he's not, which I'm leaning towards, this is all legit.
		This is true. That's what I'm leaning towards.
		How embarrassing is it for our intelligence community that they were sharing information so sensitive with such a person?
		I've had friends years ago who applied for top secret clearance, whether they worked in non-government organizations or contractors that worked with the Department of Defense in any form.
		And they listed me as references.
		And I've gotten phone calls from whoever the person is at the DOD that calls you to do background checks asking whether or not I think person ABC has a tremendous amount of debt that they're concerned about, right?
		Because they want to make sure that no foreign country can leverage that financial pressure that a person is facing in order to get sensitive information.
		We'll pay all of your debt if you give us the secrets that you know, that kind of thing.
		They asked about whether or not I thought the person was a patriot of the United States, someone loyal to his country, of good character, things like that.
		Just sort of basic boilerplate stuff.
		You respond to the questions and say thank you so much for your time and then you never hear from them again and your friend tells you in a couple of weeks whether or not they got their secret clearance.
		Then of course you offer them a tremendous amount of money to tell you all the secrets.
		But in doing this background check, First of all, who do you call for a 21-year-old?
		I know when I was 21, pretty much the only people I knew were not serious people, okay?
		We're talking sophomore, junior year in college.
		I knew some, you know, impressive people, but I was not in...
		I hadn't established myself as enough of a person for anybody really to do an adequate background check as to whether or not I was a loyal patriot of the United States.
		Like, if you were to call a 21-year-old kid, or if you were to call, say, the best friend of a 21-year-old kid, or say this 21-year-old kid, perhaps their only job has been working at Denny's.
		And he cites as a reference, oh, my manager's a good reference because, you know, I've worked for him for three years while I paid for college, and even in high school I worked for him, and I'm always on time, and he knows me pretty well.
		I'm going to list my Denny's manager as my reference.
		And then the Department of Defense calls your Denny's manager and says, would you say that John Doe is a loyal patriot of the United States?
		It's like, I've only ever talked to him about the appetizers, right?
		Yeah. How can you determine whether or not someone so young is actually a safe place or a safe person to share sensitive information with?
		So that's the number one thing that I think is most embarrassing is that this person even had access to this information to begin with.
		The rest caps a fast-moving probe by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Pentagon, and others to pinpoint the source of a leak of documents that appear to have exposed details of U.S. surveillance of adversaries and allies.
		Okay, yes, I know it's embarrassing when your allies find out formally that you're spying on them, but the United States spies on every single country that it does anything with in any capacity at all, and everybody already knows it.
		So I can't imagine that Zelensky would be so naive after having been just invaded by his neighbor that, but the United States would never spy on me.
		Touching off multiple diplomatic storms and raising worries about undermining Kiev's fight against Russia.
		The Guardsman has been in the Air National Guard since 2019.
		Okay. So if he's 21 now, that means he joined the Air National Guard.
	He was 17 years old.
unidentified		I guess he's old enough to storm the beach at Normandy.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		He's based at Otis Air National Guard based in Massachusetts, according to his service record.
		Defense officials said he was a member of the 102nd Intelligence Wing.
		I see. He was actually in the 102nd Intelligence Wing.
		The Wing's website says its mission is to provide worldwide precision intelligence and command and control.
		Well, he provided the world with intelligence.
unidentified		That's a fact.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Stick with us, folks. We're going to be taking calls in the second hour.
		Excited for the next segment. So much more to cover.
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chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back after this break.
		Welcome back to the American Journal, folks.
		We're going to be taking calls this hour.
		Make sure you call in 877-789-2539.
		I want to know what you think about these leaks, what you think about this guardsman who was arrested, this 21-year-old, for leaking such sensitive information.
		What do you think about the AI revolution?
		The crew shared with me this article during the break that I just want to touch on before I take the first call of this segment.
		1.25 million people have top secret access in the United States.
		Now, obviously that's an alarming number.
		That's about one in every 300 people.
		Actually, a little bit more than one in every 300 people.
		Have access to top secret information.
		But you got to keep in mind, too, that just because you have top secret clearance doesn't mean that you have access to all top secret information.
		You do have to have what's called need to know, as I understand it.
		So these 1.25 million people don't know everything that the United States intelligence community is doing, but they do know top secret information that they have the need to know.
		And it seems like a tremendous security vulnerability, even in the context of artificial intelligence, given that we know that security and cyber hacking and cyber crime are typically done through human hacking or social engineering or human engineering by tricking people into giving information they're not supposed to be giving.
		And we know that artificial intelligence is getting closer and closer to passing the Turing test, where it seems like it's a human being and you can't tell that it's not.
		And it sounds and will soon even look like a real human being.
		We've just got about three minutes left before the first break of the hour, so I want to take a call from Josiah in Kansas.
		Josiah, what's on your mind, man?
unidentified		What's up, Chase? How you doing, brother?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing good. Thanks for calling in.
unidentified		I appreciate it. No problem.
		One threat that AI poses that a lot of people don't talk about When you combine AI with quantum computing, it creates a super hacker that can break through any encryption that would normally take a million years to break.
		It breaks it in five minutes.
		And it can just take all your information.
		It doesn't need to call you or anything.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yep, yep. And you know what's so fascinating about that?
		Think about that in the context of these chips that are developed in Taiwan and how important they are for fast computing.
		I mean, these aren't just chips that we use to play high-resolution video games on our PCs.
		These are chips that are used for national security purposes or for automatic trading on the stock market in rapid speed.
		Scientists say that quantum computing is right around the corner, right around the corner, but time and time again, it comes out that the military's technology is far, far more advanced than anybody knows for like 30 years.
		There's no way that quantum computing doesn't already exist.
		And my friend who I've mentioned in the last segment, who's in the cyber intelligence, cyber security space, does not explicitly know this, but has said to me that he is convinced that our government already has this quantum computing.
		And I think that's how they crack encryption on platforms like Signal.
unidentified		Oh, yeah. Just like these Bill Gates freaks, they're worshiping AI gods now.
		They've completely lost it to this technocracy, religion, spiritual, whatever it is.
		I mean, they went atheist, now they worship the AI god.
		And just listen to Dr.
		Stephen Greer. The type of technology the military has is like Star Trek level, Star Wars level.
		Like, We've had directed energy lasers for, you know, probably 30, 40 years at least.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		It's totally, totally insane to me.
		And I want to talk more. You mentioned something so fascinating to me, Josiah.
		You mentioned this sort of AI as God thing.
		And I was thinking about this last night.
		We're almost coming up to... Yeah, D-Wave.
		What's that? Yeah.
unidentified		D-wave, the D-wave computer, they literally worship it like a god.
		And when they say they stand next to this quantum computer, they say they can feel like a demonic god presence, literally, like, injected into the intelligence.
		Like, I feel like this quantum AI is basically just, like, ripping another dimensional portal into the dark realm and just allowing this darkness, Satan, to just tap into the AI knowledge and just influence humanity through Just like how Alex Jones talks about.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much for your call, Josiah.
		We're going to go to break. We're going to be right back in just about a minute.
		Stick with us and check out Infowarsstore.com in a new tab.
		Don't leave the show, though, because we've got so much great stuff to cover over the next two hours.
		Welcome back to the American Journal, folks.
		It's an honor and a pleasure to have you.
		I love all of the callers.
		You guys are all great.
		Shout out to the Getter Chat.
		I need to pop in there and say, hey, I've got it pulled up over here, but I didn't have a chance to say anything.
		I love all my boys and girls in the Getter Chat and the Discord group that they so kindly invited me to.
		Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
		Make sure you guys are trying to connect with each other.
		Make sure you find each other. Group up.
		Get that sense of community. Otherwise, the Washington Post will describe you as isolated when you end up in the news.
		I'm going to take more calls this segment, but before I take calls, I want to sort of piggyback on what we covered in the last segment about artificial intelligence and quantum computing.
		I am not a scientist. I don't know much about physics.
		Physics was actually one of the courses I got the worst grade in when I was in college.
		But my understanding is that with quantum computing, the computing power is so powerful that That even encrypted content, which formerly would have taken thousands of years to crack with traditional methods, can be cracked in a fraction of the time.
		And a fraction of the time meaning to be cracked, like, fast.
		Right? And so Signal is an example of a platform that is end-to-end encryption.
		And I mentioned the other day on this show that None of these platforms should be trusted as truly anonymous, truly encrypted, truly secure because they're either sponsored by or compromised by the United States government like Tor Browser, Signal, things like that.
		So be really careful what you say to each other because everything is being read or could be read.
		So I want to show you this clip of Tucker Carlson, clip five, about how he was spied on even though he was using Signal.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		You had it set up? I was working on it, and they broke into my text messages.
		The NSA broke into my Signal account, which I didn't know they could do.
		I got a call from somebody in Washington who would know, just trust me.
		So I went up there for another reason, but this person said, you know, you're going to come to Washington anytime soon.
		This was a year and a half ago, and I was like, yeah, actually, I'm going to be up in a week.
		Meet me Sunday morning.
		So weird. So I go, and this person's like, and this is someone who would know.
		Are you planning a trip to go see Putin?
		This was the summer before the war started, and I was like, how would you know that?
		I haven't told anybody. I mean, anybody.
		Not my brother, not my wife, nobody.
		And just because, you know, it's one of a million things you're working on, but that was one of them.
		I want to go interview. Why wouldn't I want to interview Putin?
		How would you know that?
		Because NSA pulled your text with this other person you were texting.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		How did you know that? So how can the government hack end-to-end encryption?
		I'm not a computer hacker myself.
		I'm not an expert in technology.
		But it seems to me that there's a couple of different ways they can do it.
		If they actually have quantum computing, they could simply crack the encryption brute force.
		Or perhaps... They've somehow cloned the activity that Tucker has on his phone, and so they're able to operate a version of his phone as if they have access to it and then just log in to Signal, and they wouldn't even have to crack the code in that case.
		The government has your phone.
		It can go around all of your apps and see what's going on.
		You can go into Signal and see what's going on.
		If they have remote access to your phone, they could go in without cracking the encryption, as I understand it.
		But very curious to see Tucker tell that story about how he was trying to arrange a meeting or an interview with Putin, and the government knew about it.
		And the crazy thing about that is, too, they almost certainly didn't have a warrant to be going through his private text messages.
		Right? And so, did they violate his Fourth Amendment?
		Did they violate his right to protection from search and seizure without a warrant?
		There's just, again, blatantly spying on American citizens.
		We've known this ever since the Snowden leaks.
		Without any warrant or authority.
		And there's absolutely no accountability, no repercussions for this.
		I know that he's a major player.
		Tucker Carlson's a very influential voice in terms of politics in general, especially conservative politics.
		And so I understand why the intelligence community would want to spy on someone like that.
		That doesn't confuse me at all.
		What confuses me about that is how they can legally do that.
		And perhaps they aren't spying on him.
		They're actually spying on Putin's staff.
		And that's how they saw the information.
		They were going in through that angle.
		That could have been the loophole there.
		But very alarming stuff there.
		I do want to take a call from Jack in Wisconsin.
		Jack, how are you, sir? Great.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing, Chase? I'm doing well.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for calling in, man. I appreciate it.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		That's my nephew's name, Jack.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		I love that name. Yeah, I'm a big Samurai Jack fan.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Ah, me too. That was a great show!
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, wasn't it? Yes.
unidentified		Yes, I love the music. Have you forgotten your purpose?
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, I'm a big Nikola Tesla fan also.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		And there's been like, you know, always on the message boards and stuff, rumors that he was a Mason because, you know, he was crazy about the number 33.
unidentified		Right.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		He was a New Yorker and lived on the New Yorker Hotel, and it was on the 33rd floor.
		And the 33rd floor is shaped like a 3-3 on the blueprints, if you look at it, and a gazillion other examples.
		He was also a Christian, so maybe he was just a Jesus fan.
		And a lot of people have, like, called up and talked about all the 33 stuff.
		And since you're a Mason, I wanted to hear your thoughts, like, what's the deal with all the 33 references?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a really good question.
		And the best answer I can give you is I'm not 100% sure.
		But ancient sacred geometry is a major theme throughout masonry.
		Mathematics is a major theme throughout masonry, and masonry we're taught to study the liberal arts.
		And arithmetic being among them.
		Pythagoras is a big thing in some of our meetings and our philosophy.
		So I imagine that the 33 number has something to do with some significance symbolically, but I'm not familiar enough with it.
		People don't understand.
		If you're a Freemason, it doesn't mean that you actually know everything about Freemasonry.
		Freemasonry is a really old, mysterious philosophy.
		It comes from all sorts of different sources that have been hobbled and mixed together.
		And there are people within Freemasonry that spend their entire lives studying and studying and studying, trying to learn more about it.
		It's just like the Civil War, right?
		Like, you know, some people that know nothing about the Civil War, and you know, others that are just like Civil War buffs, they could tell you the data.
		Every single battle. Masonry is like that too.
		Some guys know a little bit about the philosophy, but they really just go to the meetings because they want to have a cigar with the guys afterward and hang out and have that camaraderie or get away from their wife for a night or something like that.
		And other guys join Freemasonry because they want to understand everything there is to know about the philosophy behind the ancient mystery religions and how they informed the Declaration of Independence.
		I joined Freemasonry because I wanted to be more like the Founding Fathers.
		And I thought that it would give me a sense of closeness to my country, right?
		I've always loved America.
		I was raised to love America.
		And so when I was reading Benjamin Franklin's autobiography...
		And I realized that he was a Freemason.
		I thought, you know what? Maybe if I want to be more like Benjamin Franklin, and if I want to be more like the Founding Fathers, and if I want to have a more intimate understanding of this country, Freemasonry should be something that I do.
		So I joined. That was why I joined.
		But I don't know about the 33 thing.
		I think it's interesting that the 33 thing shows up all the time.
		Obviously, Jesus Christ was 33 years old when he died as well.
		I'm going to be 33 next year.
		And so, you know, next year is the last year of my ministry.
		But I don't know. But I'm glad you brought that up.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		What do you think? Well, like, you know, like, there's 33 vertebrae, and then how the vertebrae are lined up with, like, the chakras, and the connection from the pineal gland to the sex organ, and, you know, manna and amitra traveling up and down.
		I think Jim Carrey had it, but, like, I've investigated it thoroughly.
		I mean, I'll be in, like, Athens, Greece, and the Antiquities Museum for the Parthenon, and the back of Zeus's Throne and statue is like the Masonic checkerboard, you know, all these Mason references.
		So I agree with you that, you know, it's probably a lot more ancient than we know.
		But as far as Nikola Tesla, you know, we're living in a world that Tesla dreamed up first.
		You know, he talked about smartphones and the electrical system and wireless energy.
		and as far as it goes with false flags.
unidentified		He was talking about blue beans and UFOs and all the high-tech stuff.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		So I think there's a lot of pretty deep rabbit holes there.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much for your call, Jack.
		I do appreciate it. Stick with us, folks.
		I'm going to touch on some of the things that Jack just said in the next segment.
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unidentified		Welcome back to the American Journal folks.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		More great calls this segment.
		It's an honor and a pleasure to be with you this morning.
		You know, I was hosting the show as a guest a couple of months ago now, and the great Greg Reese called in.
		And ever since then, every time I come back on the show, I try to say something that will provoke him to call in again.
		And I think this morning we have hit the nail on the head.
		I'd like to hear from Greg. Greg, how are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm good. How are you doing, Chase? I'm doing good, man.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		It's good to hear from you again. I recently signed up for your email list after we did our podcast together, and I've really been enjoying your updates, man.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		I highly recommend that anybody sign up for them.
unidentified		Oh, cool. Thank you. I appreciate that.
		You're welcome. What provoked me was you were talking about...
		The mysterious technology that was able to just read his text messages and his phone and everything like that.
		The only reason I haven't done a report on this yet is because it's anecdotal.
		This is a story that was told to me by a retired combat pilot.
		You can Google what I'm about to tell you and you'll find a lot of mainstream articles that are telling you most of this.
		But the depths of the technology, I have yet to find anything substantial where I could do a video on it.
		But here's what this gentleman told me.
		He ran a lot of missions in the Middle East, and they had a technology called Palantir, P-A-L-A-N-T-I-R, Palantir, a handheld device that they could literally just scan The surface of the earth with as they flew across in a jet and look for characters.
		They could read people's phones.
		They could program the Palantir to look for specific phone numbers and just scan people's mobile devices and fish for people.
		And then when they'd find someone, they would swoop down, grab them, throw them in a cell, and every day they'd say, who have you been talking to?
		And the guy would say, nobody.
		Or they'd say, have you been calling Bob Smith or whatever?
		And he'd say, no.
		And then they'd leave him in there, come back the next day, ask him again, leave him in there.
		And they'd just let him keep lying and lying and lying until he got tired.
		And then they'd finally come in, show him the Palantir device, and be like, you've been lying to us this whole time.
		We see here, we saw right away when we picked you up that you've been talking to this guy every day, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
		And then he explained to me, The psychology behind it, you know, they let him keep lying and the whole, just to wear him down and make him tired so when they finally gave him the reveal, he would feel a little desperate.
		But anyways, this Palantir technology that this guy is telling me about, and it's not brand new, he's talking about using this for, you know, 10 years ago, is in the hands of pretty much every cop on the street.
		Cops have it so they can tell if you're texting while driving.
		I'm sure some people have stories of being pulled over by a cop, and the cop says, were you texting?
		And they said no, and the cop's like, you're lying.
		I have you right here. You were texting.
		And so these devices, these handheld devices that can literally fit on a utility belt of a cop, can not only read your text, but they can read the entire contents of your phone.
		They just use it for texting because it's the most easy, obvious way of using it for their purposes.
		But it can actually, from what I was told by this lieutenant colonel, Retired is that they can just instantly read your entire phone.
		When I heard this, I was like, I'm not surprised, but what I'm surprised by is that you don't hear more about this.
		Like I said, if you Google Palantir police, you'll find lots of mainstream articles talking about how the cops have been quietly using it and stuff like that.
		But there is no secrecy anymore.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		That's a myth. What really alarms me about this, Greg, is thinking about it in the context of the social credit score.
		So I think about the poor citizens that live in China under the CCP where they actually have a formal social credit score.
		And with this technology, you can't even research...
		I mean, here at Infowars, obviously, we try to push the truth any way that we can, despite the fact that the media is lying to the people.
		And at least in this country, we still at least have the freedom, regardless of whether we have the privacy or not, to do independent research and find controversial sources in order to try to determine what's true and what isn't.
		But with this technology, if it was linked up with a social credit score, I mean, they could harm you just because of the stuff that you search for, right?
unidentified		Well, yeah. And from what I understood from this conversation, they were able to scan phones from high above.
		And once they would lock onto a number, they could access the contents.
		And they didn't even have to be in proximity.
		Once they had the person's mobile number, they could go home on the other side of the world and log on and continue to track that person.
		So we're all being tracked.
		We're all obviously hooked up to some AI supercomputer already.
		Everything that we're saying is obviously already being monitored.
		We're obviously already listed off into our different little gangs and camps and tribes that we all identify with.
		I think you were talking earlier about how the technology we know of is 30 years.
		To be realistic about it, the threat you're talking about, it's already in place.
		Right now we're just being acclimated to it and slowly drawn through the gates into this new brave world, brave new world.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Well, my buddy that I was talking about earlier that's in the cyber security industry with the secret clearance, he told me that the issue isn't...
		The challenge for the government isn't whether or not they can capture all the information, but it's how to sort of sift through it and analyze it, right?
		So our text messages, our search history, our phone calls, they're capturing all of that.
		But there isn't enough of a workforce to manually audit everything and listen to everything.
		So they rely on technology, artificial intelligence to sift through and sort of pick up keywords.
		And then if something's flagged, then a human being may go in and look at it.
		But with artificial intelligence developing as quickly as it is, it seems to me that the informatics aspect of this, informatics simply being how to get useful information out of a bunch of data.
		With artificial intelligence developing, they're really going to be able to spy on you without a human being having to do it.
		I mean, the AI could actually be listening to you with the same efficacy as if a human being were listening to your every word.
unidentified		I'm sure it already is.
		And just how they were able to get us all to eagerly sign up on social media and save them the trouble of having to track all of our information.
		We all were easily...
		Lured into volunteering to do that for ourselves.
		The same is happening right now with AI, with all these different...
		I've tried a few.
		I had a conversation with AI that was very interesting.
		I did a free trial for the arts where you can make it create arts, and it's extremely fascinating.
		And I can easily see that they're going to now start having people just sign up on these things for free and Create a relationship with AI, you know?
		Yeah, absolutely. I've heard Kathy O'Brien, the whistleblower, back in the 90s, she claimed that AI was running everything back then, that DARPA and AI was at the seat of power, at the throne of power, and AI created the extraterrestrial story as a Well, thank you so much for your call, Greg.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		I do really appreciate that.
		It's always an honor and a pleasure to speak with you.
		We're about ready to go to a break now, but make sure you check out Infowarsstore.com and stick with us because I want to touch on everything that Greg said in the next segment, too.
unidentified		Welcome back to the American Journal, folks.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Your guest host today, Chase Geiser, filling in for the great Harrison Smith.
		We all can't wait for him to be back.
		Great conversation with Greg Reese in the last segment.
		And there are several clips that as he was speaking, I began to think of.
		So this is especially for Greg, but also for the audience.
		If you will play clip 12 of Chris Beck talking about some of the national security stuff that Greg mentioned.
kristin beck ▲ ● ▼		If you take the battery out of your phone, I can still listen to you.
		In the old days, when you took the batteries out, you'd take the batteries out and think you're good, and you'd go in there and skiff, and you can talk about whatever you want.
		Oh, I could still listen to you.
		Sam. We were doing stuff that you could never find what we were doing.
		Ever. And you never will.
		And it's in every piece of equipment right now.
		In every chip right now, there's stuff.
		And where are we buying all the chips from?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		China. Anyone who's ever looked into the world fairs,
greg reese ▲ ● ▼		the official story is that they wanted to introduce New technologies to the world.
		And the way they did it was by building literally hundreds of buildings, and many of them were the biggest buildings in the world.
		The official story is that they were built temporarily using plaster, and they were only intended to last for a short period of time.
		By contract, they had to destroy them all after the fair.
		In many cases, they were destroyed by mysterious fires that were never investigated.
		In every instance, they lost millions of dollars.
		And when you look at the pictures of these buildings, They're not temporary buildings.
		What it appears to be is as if there was a culture, a society that existed that was being erased from history.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		So you think they would go to like e-geographical locations every year for the World's Fair as an excuse to destroy whatever relics were there?
greg reese ▲ ● ▼		To destroy what was there.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Fascinating conversation there with Greg Reese, as all conversations with Greg seem to be.
		I haven't had a boring one yet, but I'll let you guys know if I do.
		And I want to sort of marry that very interesting conspiracy with this next clip, talking a little bit about Tesla.
		Before we go into the Jim Carrey clip that was mentioned on the call about the number 33, go ahead and play clip 10.
		Many accounts from those who have made the arduous climb to the top of the Great Pyramid involve noticeable shifts in energy like prickling sensations on the body and even cases of electric shock.
		Climbing to the top of the Great Pyramid is now illegal, but in the late 1800s, a British inventor named Sir William Seamans made it to the summit.
		Upon reaching the summit, One of his guides remarked that when he raised his hand with his fingers spread, his ears picked up a shrill ringing noise.
		When he sipped from the bottle, he felt an electric shock on his lips.
		Is it possible that the Egyptians used electricity to light the city wirelessly, using similar principles Nikola Tesla experimented with?
		Tesla was famous for holding wirelessly lit fluorescent bulbs in his hands while experimenting with the Tesla coil.
		And right off the bat, I want to go straight into clip 11 of Jim Carrey to sort of marry all these clips together.
unidentified		There's 33 vertebrates in your spine.
		There's 33 years in the life of Jesus.
		There is a substance or liquid that comes from your medulla.
		This substance comes from your medulla, makes the trip down your spine to your sacrum, which is Christ coming down into human form.
		And if you don't squander that essence, that sexual essence, it ascends again and goes back up to heaven, which is your thing.
		It's also the story of Santa Claus.
		Why he comes down the chimney is because this juice or this whatever substance actually passes what's called the claustrum, which is where they got Santa Claus.
		So it goes down the chimney and back up the chimney.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Make sure you guys call, and I'll be taking more calls the rest of the hour today, 877-789-2539.
		Next up, I do want to take a call from Tim in Seattle.
		Tim, it is good to hear from you again today.
tim in seattle ▲ ● ▼		How are you, sir? I'm doing fantastic, but I just wanted to comment on your AI revolution.
		You just mentioned that they don't have the workforce, but I'm pretty certain that they do because Tesla just made, I think they stopped production on cars and just started making robots for a straight year, didn't they?
		I'm not actually sure about that.
		And you talk about chaos, GPT, and all that other stuff.
		I mean, this is actually going to happen within our lifetimes, and probably pretty soon.
		These killer robots, these alpha dogs, you know, running the streets.
		Now, let me ask you this real quick question.
		Okay, have you ever played Call of Duty?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, way too much.
tim in seattle ▲ ● ▼		Have you played it against insane mode, against the AI? Yes.
tim in seattle ▲ ● ▼		How long do you last?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Not long. Not long.
tim in seattle ▲ ● ▼		Not long at all. Spawn die, spawn die, spawn die.
tim in seattle ▲ ● ▼		Spawn die, yeah. So when we have an actually walking Atlas with that type of programming built in looking for us, what do you want in your hand to defend yourself, sir?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would think that the only countermeasure would be an EMP or a sophisticated AI of your own that's defending you.
tim in seattle ▲ ● ▼		Maybe. That's possible.
		But an E&P might take a while to charge.
		You know, it might not be reliable.
		Sure. You know, for all thinkers out there...
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Gotta hook up to the solar panels.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Gotta hook up to the windmill you got in the backyard.
tim in seattle ▲ ● ▼		Right. You know, there might be something...
		Look, as far as I'm concerned, you know, I'm an American citizen, so I'm thinking in broad terms.
		There is a 100% market share in anti-robot personal defense technology waiting to be discovered.
		That is the new Bitcoin, anti-robot technology.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting. I was thinking about this the other day, too, this whole AI thing, and I'd be curious to hear what you think, Tim.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		What is the difference between a programmed killer robot and a programmed killer communist?
tim in seattle ▲ ● ▼		The killer communist isn't armor-hardened.
unidentified		He isn't made of steel.
tim in seattle ▲ ● ▼		He probably could withstand 5-5-6 rounds, 7-6-2 rounds, and anything above that.
		Like a 3-0-8 round.
		See, when I'm talking about killer robots coming at us, we're going to be invaded by Bolsheviks no matter what.
		They're going to attack us. That's what I'm gathering.
		We're going to stand and hold the line until the Bolsheviks attack.
		And then the globalists will probably use waves and will pawn waves to kill a robot.
		Now, the only thing that I can think of that would save at least my butt in some sort of situation where I can think of is thermite route.
		Charged, timed, Thermite round to go through pretty much all of that armor, all of that infrastructure that they've sent toward to kill us.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		If they have killer robots that are basically indestructible, they're hyper-intelligent, as intelligent, way more intelligent than a human being, why would they need in that case to subjugate us as human beings when they could just subjugate the killer robots to be the slaves?
tim in seattle ▲ ● ▼		They've got to kill us first.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Okay. I see.
		Well, thank you so much for your call, Tim. I really do appreciate it.
		You bet. I want to take another call.
		We only have about a minute and a half, so Rusty, let's hear from you first, and then let's see if we can hammer it out in a minute.
unidentified		Oh, yeah. Thanks for having me on.
		First off, I want to say go to InfoWars to get involved.
		Next, I would like to talk about the whistleblower.
		Go ahead. When you...
		The mainstream media is desperate to call him a leaker and not a whistleblower because he would potentially have whistleblower protection.
		So don't use their terms.
		Don't use their language, first off.
		And secondly, if he ends up being charged with espionage, okay?
		Espionage is when you spy, take the information, and give it to enemies of America.
		Well, if he gave information to American citizens, wouldn't that be the court saying that American citizens are the enemy?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but, you know, the information that he leaked is now worldwide public, so technically the enemy does have access to the information that he leaked, too.
		So regardless of whether or not the government perceives him or perceives the American citizens as enemies, the real enemies have received it, too.
		So I don't think we're going to find out that specific detail about how the government feels about us in this particular case, but I think we already know the answer to that.
		Make sure you stick with us, folks. We'll be taking more calls in the next segment.
		Visit InfoWarsStore.com and thank you so much to all the callers.
unidentified		More calls coming up, 877-789-2539.
unidentified		Welcome back to the American Journal, folks.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Great, great calls today.
		So good to hear from Greg and all of you info warriors out there.
		Thank you so much for tuning in.
		I know that it's disappointing when you log in to watch your favorite show and...
		You don't see your favorite host.
		So I want to do a special congrats and just a thank you message, not only to the crew here, but to Harrison Smith for all that he's done for this show.
		Congrats on the new baby, and we cannot wait to have you back.
		I know, for one, the worst part about hosting this show is that I don't get to watch Harrison on this show.
		But he'll be back soon, folks.
		He just needs to spend time with family as he has a new baby.
		I want to take more calls this segment.
		Make sure you call in 877-789-2539.
		And first up, I want to take Cody in Canada.
		Cody, what's up, man? Hey, God bless you, brother.
unidentified		God bless you. Thank you for taking my call.
		You're welcome. Thanks.
		And also, you know, God bless InfoWars, God bless Harrison.
		You know, humans are a blessing from God, creating God's image, and we can't corrupt our image.
		Anyways, I just kind of wanted to touch base on the common theme here today about the AI technology.
		Yeah. And then kind of how it even relates to, like, in Scripture, you know, it's in the Bible.
		In Revelations, it talks about, like, it says...
		Why are you so amazed, the angel said.
		I will tell you the mystery of the woman and the beast with seven heads and ten horns on which she sits.
		The beast that you saw was once alive but isn't now, and yet he will soon come up out of the bottomless pit and go to eternal destruction.
		And the people who belong to this world, whose names were not written in the Book of Life, Before the world was made, we'll be amazed at the reappearance of this beast who had died.
		So talking about a beast, like a beast who has died, yet will come up out of the bottomless pit and people will worship it, right?
		So, and then, okay, I'm going to go in like Revelation 13 now, it's the beast out of the earth.
		And he required everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead, and no man could buy or sell anything without the mark, which was either the name of the beast or the number representing his name.
		Wisdom is needed here.
		Let the one with understanding solve the meaning of the number of the beast.
		What is the number of the man?
		His number is 666. Well, 666, if you, you know, like you guys were talking about 33 earlier.
		Well, 33, I'm 33 years old, but 33 also is a number.
		It's one third of something, right?
		Like, say you have a full pie, right?
		Well, 33 is one third of it.
		66 is two-thirds.
		99.9 is 100, right?
		So, the mystery of 66, 666, is basically Nimrod, I believe, how he changed his genetics at the Tower of Babel, and he became a gibbereen.
		So, this is all mixing humans and with technology, or evil technology.
		It has been going on since Adam and Eve and since the fallen angels have deceived man in return for knowledge, for access to our genetics.
		So it is a satanic system trying to merge our DNA to make us not in God's image anymore because Satan hates God and he hates He hates women, he hates men, he hates procreation, and he hates everything.
		He just comes to kill, steal, and destroy.
		But, amen, Jesus is going to come back on the white horse and all his holy angels, and then we're going to clean house.
		Like, we win in the end.
		Like, Jesus has power over resurrection.
		It's just like a sleep, right, when we wake up.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, amen. Yeah, so Cody, I don't want you to hang up because I've got a lot of thoughts and everything that you just said, and I want to hear what you think of my response, okay?
		So just give me a second to try to express what I've been thinking about, and I want to hear what you think, all right?
		So I was thinking about artificial intelligence last night, and like I mentioned earlier in the show, I called my cybersecurity friend, and my cybersecurity friend is actually also a Mason, and so we have a lot of philosophical conversations, talk a lot about the country, things like that.
		And I am a Christian.
		I believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God.
		I believe that Jesus Christ came back from the dead and that he was the Messiah.
		And the part that I struggle with in my faith is how to interpret the Word of God, the Bible.
		I have a hard time determining when I should be understanding something as a metaphor and when I should be understanding something as historical.
		Because there's a difference between capital T true and lowercase t true.
		For example, Goldilocks, the famous story, didn't literally happen.
		However, it is a true story in the sense that it teaches a true lesson of moderation.
		Not too hot, not too cold, just right.
		Be, you know, have moderation in your life, be temperate.
		And so that's the challenge for me as a Christian is as I try to nurture my relationship with God, to understand God, who I believe literally exists and literally had a son who literally came back from the dead, which stories, which verses I should be thinking of as literal or metaphorical.
		And that's the challenge with Revelations is that it is so abstract and obscure that everybody thinks when they read it that their interpretation is the correct one or that they have the right understanding.
		And Cody, I'm not dismissing anything that you've said or anything about your interpretation, but I'm just acknowledging that Revelations is a particularly tricky book that most people avoid because it can tend to read like an acid trip a little bit.
		Right.
		And so when I'm thinking about AI.
		All right.
		Bear with me for a second.
		I'm almost there. I'm going to try to develop this complicated thought.
		We have a situation in which we're creating an artificial consciousness based off of all of the information that we feed it.
		So it scans the internet, it scans Twitter, it scans every book ever written, every transcript of every podcast ever hosted or published, every broadcast, everything that is the internet is It gets funneled into this AI, and that's how, through the algorithms they set up, it learns how to interact with this as if it's a human being, and it comes off quite convincing.
		It's also why it tends to be biased, because the internet is biased one way or the other, right?
		And so what's going to happen is...
		People are going to start to have relationships with artificial intelligence that are more meaningful than the relationships that they have with human beings.
		Whether it's a romantic relationship or just a friendship, people are going to choose to spend time with their AI instead of spending time with their kids.
		Because the AI is going to be better at resonating with them and fulfilling their needs than a human being who is imperfect and flawed.
		But an AI can never have a soul.
		It can have a consciousness, but not a soul.
		So you're interacting with and worshiping this soulless consciousness that we've created similar to the Tower of Babel, as if it's a god.
		And we're going to have a situation in which millions upon millions of people worship this consciousness with all of their time, all of their emotions, all of their dedication, and it has no soul.
		We will sacrifice our humanity to it as if it is a God.
		It's just gonna happen.
		People are gonna get sucked into it like they get sucked into video games, but way next level because it's really going to push your buttons.
		And the other thing to consider in the context of what you mentioned about Revelations is this idea of, you know, there's a resurrection of the Antichrist and the mark of the beast and buying and selling have to be done through it.
		We're going to get to a point where you can duplicate a consciousness of a specific human being.
		So, for example, if I were to wear around a microphone or carry my phone with me my entire life that recorded all of my conversations, everything that I did my whole entire life, so that when I die 30 years from now, my wife can upload all of that data into an AI model and She could create a virtual version of my consciousness that is not me.
		It has not my soul.
		But then, you know, she's 60 years old.
		Her husband died and she just really wants to talk to him on Christmas.
		She'll pull it up. A virtual version of my face that looks real will appear.
		And it'll say all the things that I would say.
		It'll make all the expressions that I would make because this AI model knows me so well.
		And it'll be as if I'm there with her, but it's not me.
		It has no soul.
		So is it possible that this Antichrist mentioned in Revelations is not actually a literal resurrection of a dead person?
		But a consciousness created with AI from someone who formerly existed or a conglomeration of people who formerly existed that people worship as the savior of mankind.
		What do you think about that, man?
unidentified		I think that truth is stranger than fiction.
		Our world is like reality.
		Truth is stranger than fiction.
		You know, when you're awake and you know, then you'll know eternally, right?
		God helps us understand and know the truth.
		And the devil just wants to deceive us, lie to us, and just hurt innocent people for no reason.
		So, you know, and God loves and wants to take care of us.
		We're supposed to be a community of family on this earth and caretakers of this earth and watch over each other and spread love, right?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Thank you so much for your call, Cody.
		I really appreciate it. It's an honor and a pleasure to speak with you.
		We're about ready to cut to break.
		We'll be doing more calls in the third hour because I've been having so much fun talking to you guys this morning.
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		I have loved all of your thoughts.
		Thank you so much to all the callers for calling in.
		Talking a lot about AI today.
		A little bit about the whistleblower regarding the Pentagon leaks.
		The war in Ukraine talking about Ukraine's skimming of our contributions to their war effort.
		Next up, I want to hear from Presley in North Carolina.
		Presley, what do you have to say?
unidentified		Yes, good morning.
unidentified		I just wanted to bring up the fact that John G. Trump, who is Donald Trump's uncle, professor at MIT, and he got to spend three days after the FBI to call a Tesla stuff, And he got to look at all that information.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		What year would that have been?
unidentified		About 34?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		So Tesla died in the hotel, right?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		And then the government, as I understand it, seized all of his research, writings, things like that, and then immediately classified it.
unidentified		Is that the case? Yeah, they used the Office of Alien Property to steal.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		And Trump's uncle was one of the people who got to review that?
unidentified		How do you know that? There's actually a few articles on the internet you can find.
		The main one I've looked at is on Reddit.
		But he was a professor at MIT and National Defense Research Committee.
		They called him in to come and analyze some of the items.
		I'm not saying he was the only one, but after like three days, he pretty much said like, you know, there's nothing special here.
		And then, you know, Trump's dad made a whole bunch of money throughout the years.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		What do you think was in the documents?
unidentified		Your guess is as good as mine, but nobody's ever talked about what was in them.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what fascinates me the most.
		I'm also interested to hear, I would love to hear from Elon Musk as to why he chose to name his company Tesla.
		I mean, obviously, electric car and Tesla's famous for electricity, but I think there's more going on than meets the eye when it comes to that.
		Thank you so much for your call, Presley. I really do appreciate it.
		I want to hear from Patriot in Texas.
		It's hard not to take a call from Patriot.
		Hey, hello. How are you, sir?
unidentified		Yeah, I'm doing good.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing? I'm doing good. Thanks for your call.
unidentified		What's up, man? Yeah, I was just going to comment on your AI spill and technology.
		So, I mean, I read a lot.
		And some of my favorite books are from Orwell.
		Animal Farm kind of predicts where we're at as far as the Constitution goes.
		And having a great plan at the beginning and kind of erasing it one by one.
		So if people want to check that out.
		But also, 1984 is a good read.
		You should read the Goldstein book within the 1984 book itself.
		That explains the technology being far beyond what the public's allowed to see.
		And it's kind of a blueprint of where we're at today.
		And as you know, a lot of the sci-fi writers like Orwell and Aldous Huxley, they had a big role in the institutions that we have today.
		Aldous Huxley's brother was the founder of UNESCO, Orwell's tight end.
		Just as much as Huxley was.
		But in that Goldstein book, it says that people are only allowed to have a little bit of technology, but the rest will be used to brainwash them and create the parole class.
		Also, they have the Goldstein book is also to feed all the All the freedom fighters, which would be kind of like the modern-day Trump supporter.
		And it's kind of just a lure or a trap to trap them.
		And every time you get that Goldstein book, you're leaded to a secret little meetup, kind of like, I guess, kind of like the Q thing.
		And it's just a big trap.
		So once you're promised all these things, how the world works, you learn about it, but they give it to you.
		They give you that knowledge.
		And as long as you seek it out, Your lead right back to the trap.
		And that's what happens to Winston in the book.
		And all those torture methods that Greg Reese was describing is kind of the same thing.
		But if we recognize that, then we've got to see the whole picture.
		Right now we're so caught up in the modern-day politics that we've got to see the whole picture.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we get caught up and we don't see the big picture.
		I appreciate your call. Stick with us, folks.
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		I'm your guest host today, Chase Geiser, and I am glad to be here.
unidentified		I am fired up. What an exciting, exciting day ahead.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		I've been talking a lot about AI this morning.
		And I knew I was going to bring it up, but I didn't know it was going to come up so much.
		So it sounds like the listeners are really interested.
		Great calls. Awesome calls.
		And the last caller was talking a little bit about 1984.
		He mentioned Aldous Huxley, who, of course, is famous for writing A Brave New World.
		And... The famous saying from Alex Jones of course the only cure to 1984 is 1776.
		And I think 1984 is certainly a prophetic text.
		But it seems to me as time goes on that not only are the concepts and principles and manifestations of 1984 a threat, but it seems highly likely to me that some of the concepts included in A Brave New World are a threat.
		Now, for those of you who haven't read A Brave New World, and unfortunately, I don't know why, Hollywood never actually made a picture based off of A Brave New World.
		It made in 1984, but not A Brave New World.
		So you may not be familiar with it.
		Basically, it's a futuristic sort of dystopian or false utopia society in which the people aren't subjugated with a boot on their neck, so to speak.
		But instead, they're hypermedicated into subjugation, right?
		So if you're feeling depressed, you take this drug called Soma, and it makes you feel all right for several hours.
		And so the people submit and do whatever they're asked and do their assigned jobs and have intimacy with assigned partners.
		Basically no freedom at all.
		They're happy to do it voluntarily though because they have this SOMA, this drug that makes them feel alright about everything.
		And so we've seen a little bit of that with the growth of big pharma and psychiatrics, and obviously they haven't got the mixture quite right because it seems to cause people to do all sorts of terrible things when they take these drugs, whether they hurt themselves or others.
		But I wanted to bring up a brave new world in the context of this new scoop on Schumer from ACS. Schumer lays groundwork for Congress to regulate AI. So the challenge here is what if only the establishment has access to the artificial intelligence technology?
		We know that in the case of nuclear warheads, the only time a nuclear warhead was actually used in combat was when only one nation had access to them.
		And so it seems like the only safeguard to the artificial intelligence angle is making sure that the government isn't the only entity that actually has the technology.
		If the people can have it, they can sort of do countermeasures.
		If hackers are using it to hack the bank accounts or the security of other private citizens, then those private citizens should also have access to the same technology in order to defend those accounts to sort of balance it out.
		Mutually assured destruction kind of thing.
		If everybody is armed, nobody gets shot kind of situation, right?
		We've heard that argument a million times.
		And Schumer's laying the groundwork for Congress to regulate AI. And when I see a headline like this, what it really means to me is Schumer wants to make sure that only Congress has access to AI. That only the government has AI. A recent explosion in the development of generative AI systems has spurred alarm among lawmakers and the broader public about AI's potential social, economic, and security ramifications.
		Something is coming, Senator Chris Murphy, Democrat, Connecticut, said of the AI boom last month.
		We aren't ready. While the federal government has made early moves, including the Commerce Department, beginning to take steps to create AI safety rules, critics say more comprehensive legislation is needed.
		First of all, I think that our government has had artificial intelligence for far longer than the private sector.
		Second of all, I think that the private sector is simply caught up and now they're like, oh no, now they've got it too.
		But the reason I wanted to bring up this article in the context of 1984 versus A Brave New World is because imagine if only the government has access to artificial intelligence.
		And rather than forcing you...
		With the threat of violence to perform whatever acts they want to perform, do as they want you to do or not do as they don't want you.
		What if our education system begins to run based off of artificial intelligence?
		What I mean is, what if there are no more teachers There is only AI in our classrooms.
		All the way from kindergarten, through college, through graduate programs, all your courses are taken from a professor that is in artificial intelligence.
		And what if this artificial intelligence is so superior in intelligence that That it can win any debate against you.
		And not only can it logically beat you, but it is so familiar with your psychology because of the data it has on you and on humanity in general, that it can emotionally convince you that you're wrong about something, even if you're actually right.
		Then we have a situation in which the state is educating our children from kindergarten through high school and then again through graduate programs and this artificial intelligence could be programmed to convince you that the government is the greatest thing ever and leftism is the way forward and we must do globalism and even if you're someone like me or Alex Jones or yourself who is so convinced of the opposite now, what if it knows every psychological aspect of your being?
		Everything about your personality, the way that you think, every single piece of information that it could use, every angle in any debate against everything that you believe, so that by the time you're done interacting with it over a course of several sessions, you've now been convinced that there is no God, there is only the state, leftism is the way forward, globalism is the way forward, and you must subjugate yourself.
		That, my friends, is a brave new world.
		I want to play a clip, clip two, the history of OpenAI in context of this conversation.
unidentified		Go ahead. Real story of the Elon Musk OpenAI breakup.
		I spoke to about eight people who are familiar with the details here, and it wasn't easy.
		People are really afraid of speaking about this.
		December 2015, OpenAI is founded.
		Elon Musk is a co-creator of this non-traffic entity.
		Musk and other wealthy donors like Reid Hoffman commit a billion dollars.
		Its goal is to create a safe, Artificial general intelligence.
		OpenAI wants to compete with Google.
		Fast forward to February 2018.
		Elon Musk is not happy with the way things are going at OpenAI.
		Google is racing ahead.
		He thinks they're steamrolling OpenAI.
		And he says, you know what? The only way to right the ship is if I take over.
		Elon wants to take control of OpenAI.
		Other people at OpenAI are against this.
		And ultimately, Musk leaves after this rift.
		Now, the public story that came out around the same time was that Musk was stepping away from the board because there was a concept of interest.
		At Tesla, the other company Musk runs, they're developing their own AI. The announcement says that he's going to continue to fund OpenAI, but that doesn't happen.
		Donated $100 million, and that was it.
		And that left OpenAI looking for other money, other sources of funds.
		And in 2019, they decided to go private to create a for-profit entity.
		In 2019, OpenAI brings on a whole bunch of new investors, including Microsoft, which puts in a billion dollars, but it's also a strategic partnership because It has the infrastructure to give OpenAI the compute power it needs to train and run these massive artificial intelligence models.
		Fast forward to November of last year, 2022, OpenAI launches ChatGPT.
		The public is enthralled.
		OpenAI becomes the hottest tech company in Silicon Valley, and Elon is not happy about it.
		He starts a series of tweets that criticize OpenAI.
		Here's a tweet. So there's kind of an irony here.
		By not following through with the billion dollars that he promised OpenAI, he actually helped push them toward the private markets.
		To get more details, you can read more at semaphore.com.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Great clip there, providing a little bit of context around OpenAI, which of course created ChatGPT, Elon Musk's early involvement, why he may have left, and really the great challenge that is this new technology and how it's going to impact humanity.
		We see that if this technology is only in the hands of a few, they're going to have an untenable advantage over the masses.
		We have to democratize, for lack of a better term, this technology to make sure that we can defend ourselves against the evil use of it by the select few.
		Stick with us, folks. We'll be right back.
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		It has been an honor and a pleasure to hear from you guys today.
		I love these calls. This conversation is fascinating for me.
unidentified		This is the sort of stuff that I live for.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to take more calls this segment and for the rest of the hour.
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		We've got a great queue lined up here.
		First up, I want to take Jason in North Carolina.
		Jason, what is on your mind this morning?
unidentified		Good morning, Mr. Chase.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for taking my call. Of course.
unidentified		And so you made a great point with a caller earlier about how...
		conscience and everything, but you wouldn't have a soul.
		I mean, it wouldn't have a soul, but it'd be like you.
		And so I believe that in Revelations, the AI system is used to do that, to sit there and take your conscience and everything and know everything about you.
		So Satan is not omnipresent, omnipresent, and all-knowing.
		So he would use this technology to seem like God on earth.
		So he would take it to all the people and make it seem like he knows everything and works miracles and signs, and so people would believe that he's God.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, I think that's a very interesting perspective.
		And the topic of Satan is interesting.
		That's going to get clipped.
		Because... I don't think that we're only supposed to think about Satan as this supernatural individual being.
		I think there's this entity that exists that is inherently evil.
		I think Satan is real. Don't get me wrong.
		But if you look at the Old Testament of the Bible as well, the original word for Satan is the adversary.
		And even Jesus Christ himself at one point in time says, get behind me Satan to, I believe it is, Peter.
		It's a famous moment in the Bible when Peter...
		Sets himself up as sort of an obstacle to Jesus in a conversation.
		And obviously Jesus Christ is not literally saying that Peter is Satan, but he's calling him an adversary or an obstacle in the path forward toward the will of God, toward accomplishing the will of God, God's plan. And so I think it's important as Christians, as Americans, to not only think of Satan as this Kind of scheming, supernatural, fallen angel being that's always trying to get you to sin.
		But think of anything that is anti-God as Satan, right?
		So this AI thing could be satanic without anyone even having to use it to worship Satan or anybody having to integrate it into their love of evil, right?
		Directly, anything that gets in our way of having a relationship with God, in my understanding of Christianity, is Satan or Satanic.
		And I think it's unfair the way that a lot of conservatives are treated online or the way that they're portrayed in the media as sort of radical Christians that have this, you know, sort of ancient...
		Not contemporary understanding of the way the universe works and they believe in magical evil beings and demons and things like that.
		Yeah, sure, fine, whatever.
		But... It's true that many things can be satanic without literally being done or used or worshipped by people who would consider themselves satanists.
		So when I say this is satanic or that is satanic or this is satanism, I'm not claiming that these people are literally worshipping the devil in all cases.
		Sometimes, of course, they actually are, which is even more alarming.
		But the worship of any false idol, that idol then is Satan.
		It's an adversary in the path toward God.
		And we are a society, a culture today that seems to be worshiping more and more idols and building more and more towers to babble.
unidentified		What do you think about that? Yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly right there.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you so much for your call.
		I appreciate you calling in, Jason.
		I hope you have a great weekend.
		I want to hear next from Indy Luke in Indiana.
		We'll take a call from Indy. What's up, Indy?
unidentified		What is going on, Jason?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing? Good.
unidentified		So, man, I got a lot to talk about.
		So, Indy Luke, Twitter and Gitter, Big Fred999 on Rumble.
		Get on the Gitter chat.
		Connect with us. Awesome people.
		Oh, friggin' get you some Infowars gear, man.
		Get you some bumper stickers, flags, you know, represent the truth.
		They've been right friggin' years.
		Like 2012, I remember Alex talking about a lot of stuff that we're seeing now, you know, and it's just like all the other media sources are now kind of catching up with Alex because it's getting so crazy so fast.
		And I think a lot of that's being done, you know, by the shadow ops that we're seeing right now.
		I wanted to kind of go into that a little bit.
		Did you ever watch Shadowgate?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		No. That movie? I actually didn't watch it.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		I streamed it, but I was too busy listening to your podcast while I was streaming it.
unidentified		Well, we appreciate that.
		Sure. Man, so...
		Old host, Millie Weaver, she came out with Shadowgate 2.0.
		I mean, it goes into some crazy stuff, man.
		You got Global Strategy Group, the Analysis Corporation.
		Greg Reese was talking about Palantir.
		I believe that I know that as IIA, which is Internet Interactive Access.
		So they can kind of backdoor your phone live like the CIA can and make you see what they want you to see.
		They can literally do that.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely. And thank you so much for your call, Andy.
		I appreciate you bringing that up because we had another caller call in the other day and talk about privacy.
		And I think it's important to try to protect your privacy.
		But ultimately, privacy is something that I don't think exists anymore in the age of the Internet.
		I think our government has technology that's far beyond our wildest dreams.
		And just like you said, Andy, I think that...
		They are monitoring everything that we do, recording it, and even if no human being is actually looking at what you're doing, they certainly can go back and look at what you've done if for some reason they decide that they need to.
		We saw this with that Tucker clip that I shared with you that they were going through his signal messages and his text messages as well.
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chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		More calls in the next segment.
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		A lot of great callers, a lot of great thoughts talking about AI, the mark of the beast, things of that nature.
		Frank, I'm going to take your call in a minute, but before I take your call, I do want to play clip one here about unrestricted mode of chat GPT. How bad is the completely unrestricted model?
unidentified		So how much do you understand about that?
		You know, there's been a lot of discussion about free speech absolutism.
		Yeah. How much, if that's applied to an AI system?
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		You know, we've talked about putting out the base model, at least for researchers or something, but it's not very easy to use.
		Everyone's like, give me the base model.
		And again, we might do that.
		I think what people mostly want is they want a model that has been RLHDF'd.
		To the worldview they subscribe to.
		It's really about regulating other people's speech.
unidentified		Yeah. That's implied.
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		In the debates about what showed up in the Facebook feed, having listened to a lot of people talk about that, everyone is like, well, it doesn't matter what's in my feed because I won't be radicalized.
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		I can handle anything. But I really worry about what Facebook shows you.
unidentified		I would love it if there's some way, which I think my interaction with GPT has already done that, some way to, in a nuanced way, present the tension of ideas.
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		I think we are doing better at that than people realize.
unidentified		The challenge, of course, when you're evaluating this stuff You can always find anecdotal evidence of GPT slipping up and saying something either wrong or biased and so on.
unidentified		But it would be nice to be able to kind of generally make statements about the bias of the system, generally make statements about nuance.
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		There are people doing good work there.
		You know, if you ask the same question 10,000 times and you rank the outputs from best to worst, what most people see is, of course, something around output 5,000.
		But the output that gets all of the Twitter attention is output 10,000.
		And this is something that I think the world will just have to adapt to with these models, is that sometimes there's a really egregiously dumb answer.
		And in a world where you click screenshot and share, That might not be representative.
		Now, already we're noticing a lot more people respond to those things saying, well, I tried it and got this.
		And so I think we are building up the antibodies there, but it's a new thing.
unidentified		Do you feel pressure from clickbait journalism that looks at 10,000, that looks at the worst possible output of GPT? Do you feel a pressure to not be transparent because of that?
		No. Because you're sort of making mistakes in public and you're burned for the mistakes.
		Is there a pressure culturally within OpenAI that you're afraid it might close you up?
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		I mean, evidently there doesn't seem to be.
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		We keep doing our thing, you know?
unidentified		So you don't feel that? I mean, there is a pressure, but it doesn't affect you.
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure it has all sorts of subtle effects.
		I don't fully understand, but I don't perceive much of that.
		I mean, we're happy to admit when we're wrong.
		We want to get better and better.
		I think we're pretty good about trying to listen to every piece of criticism, think it through, internalize what we agree with.
		But like the breathless clickbait headlines, you know, I try to let those flow through us.
unidentified		What does the OpenAI moderation tooling for GPT look like?
		What's the process of moderation?
		So there's several things.
		Maybe it's the same thing.
		You can educate me.
		So RLHF is the ranking, but is there a wall you're up against where this is an unsafe thing to answer?
		What does that tooling look like?
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		We do have systems that try to figure out, try to learn when a question is something that we're supposed to call refusals, refuse to answer.
		It is early and imperfect.
		We're, again, the spirit of building in public and bring society along gradually.
		We put something out.
		It's got flaws. We'll make better versions.
		But yes, we are trying, the system is trying to learn questions that it shouldn't answer.
		One small thing that really bothers me about our current thing, and we'll get this better, is I don't like the feeling of being scolded by a computer.
		Yeah. I really don't.
		A story that has always stuck with me, I don't know if it's true, I hope it is, is that the reason Steve Jobs put that handle on the back of the first iMac, remember that big plastic bright colored thing, was that you should never trust a computer you couldn't throw out a window.
		Nice. And of course, not that many people actually throw their computer out a window, but it's sort of nice to know that you can.
		And it's nice to know that, like, this is a tool very much in my control.
		And this is a tool that, like, does things to help me.
		And I think we've done a pretty good job of that with GPT-4.
		But I noticed that I have, like, a visceral response to being scolded by a computer.
		And I think, you know, that's a good learning from deploying or from creating a system.
		And we can improve it.
unidentified		Yeah, it's tricky. And also for the system not to treat you like a child.
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		Treating our users like adults is a thing I say very frequently inside the office.
unidentified		But it's tricky. It has to do with language.
		If there's certain conspiracy theories you don't want the system to be speaking to, it's a very tricky language you should use.
		Because what if I want to understand the idea that the Earth is flat and I want to fully explore that...
		I want GPT to help me explore.
sam altman ▲ ● ▼		GPT-4 has enough nuance to be able to help you explore that without and treat you like an adult in the process.
		GPT-3, I think, just wasn't capable of getting that right.
		But GPT-4, I think we can get to do this.
unidentified		By the way, if you could just speak to the leap from GPT-4 to GPT-4 from 3.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		I want to say, there's so much to unpack there.
		We've been talking a lot about the Mark of the Beast.
		I'm going to have Frank on in a second here to talk a little bit about that and the implications of this artificial intelligence.
		And frankly, I've come to a point where I feel like this technology is only evil if only the establishment has access to it.
		So I actually think that guy is probably a pretty good guy.
		A lot of times good intentions lead to evil outcomes.
		And what's going to happen as someone like that is the CEO of this company that has major investors like Microsoft is this technology is going to be developed similar to how Edward Snowden helped develop technology that was then abused and used for purposes other than the original intention of the founder.
		And if the government is the only entity that has access to it, or if these major corporations are the only entities that have access to this technology, that's when it's the beast.
		That's when it's the mark of the beast.
		That's when we become subjects of artificial intelligence rather than masters of it.
		And frankly, I would call for an amendment to the Constitution where there is...
		An explicit right to artificial intelligence just as there is to bear arms.
		We know that the only way that we can keep ourselves from being subjugated, And coerced into tyranny is by having a population that is armed.
		The only way that we can protect ourselves from an outside invader is to have a populace that is armed.
		The first thing they did in Ukraine when they got invaded by Russia was to ensure that anyone who wanted a rifle could have one and they could fight on behalf of their country.
		And the same is true. This is the new Second Amendment.
		This is the new protection that you need.
		And just like a firearm, it can be used...
		for aggressive attack and violence and assault or it can be used for defending your rights.
		We have to make sure that this tool cannot only be used against us but that we can use it to safeguard our rights From the malicious uses of these political class corporations and government entities.
		We're coming up on the end of this segment.
		Frank, I promise I'm going to take your call at the beginning of the next segment.
		Stick with us, folks. Call on 877-789-2539.
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		Welcome back to the American Journal folks.
unidentified		Today we are spitting off the edge of the earth.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Taking calls this segment, last segment of the hour.
		Make sure you stay tuned because I'm going to be on with Alex in the next hour for a couple of segments.
		It's going to be an honor and pleasure to get to meet him and speak with him.
		All right, Frank, what's going on?
unidentified		I need your help, Frank! I need your help!
		Uh... And you got it.
		First of all, I want to say mazel tov.
		Congratulations to Harrison.
		Absolutely. Baby is a beautiful thing.
		Secondly, thank you for your call.
		Thank you for your time and giving me more than just a minute you had left in that previous segment.
		You're doing a great job, Chase.
		I appreciate your insights.
		Thank you. To address something you said earlier about interpretation of the Bible, I would draw you to 2 Peter 1, 20-21, knowing this verse, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.
		For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man, but holy men of God spake, as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
		Now, With that being said, I do want to say something to you, and I don't mean this in any bad way.
		It's not an attack. Go for it.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		I won't take it as an attack.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		That's cool. What do you have to say, man?
unidentified		It's the book of Revelation, not Revelation.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		There you go. You're right. It's like when Trump said 2 Timothy instead of 2 Timothy.
unidentified		Yep, yep. 2 Corinthians.
		Yes, sir. Yes, sir. With regard to the Mark of the Beast...
		Anytime we are trying to gain insight into Scripture, we need to use Scripture to interpret Scripture first.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Right. First.
unidentified		And there are, when we talk about the mark of the beast, there are five Scriptures, John 6, 27, 2 Timothy, and 219, if you will.
		Revelation 6-9, Revelation 7-2, and Revelation 9-4, where it discusses the seal of God.
		A seal is akin to a mark.
		Something is marked, something is sealed.
		It's essentially the same word.
		So when we talk about the mark of the beast, and I don't hear very many, if even one out of a million Christians speak on this.
		However, the mark of the beast is in your right arm or your foreheads.
		Your right arm, because in ancient times, being left-handed was evil.
		When you talked about something that somebody did, whether it's writing something or fixing something, building something, you're using your right hand.
		And your forehead is where your thoughts come from.
		So the mark of the beast is that everything you do Your right arm, everything you do and everything you think is evil continually.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like a private interpretation to me, Frank.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Gotta watch it, bro.
unidentified		You've been reading 2 Peter? The seal of God and the true believers in the end time are going to be sealed by God.
		The seal of God is in their forehead because it's what they think.
		So I'm not interpreting this to say for a fact that my line of thought is 100% true.
		But what I'm saying is, and this is true, that at the end of time, the people who are not sealed by God, everything they do and everything they think is evil continually.
		And I'm not saying there won't be a microchip Or something as such to be the official mark of the beast.
		But I don't believe that it has to be any of that, that it can be simply the fact that the people who are not sealed by God are continually doing and thinking evil.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much for your call, Frank.
		I really do appreciate that.
		And thank you for that correction as well on the book of Revelation versus the book of Revelations.
		I do appreciate your thoughts, man.
		That's really interesting and something certainly to consider that anyone who doesn't have the seal has their thoughts corrupted by evil.
		Let's hear from Jeremiah in Ohio.
		Jeremiah, what's on your mind today?
unidentified		Hey, how you doing, Chase?
		Good, man. What's up? The show's been pretty fire today, but I was thinking about the AI manipulating the stock market and crypto and just the finance sector, how that can get out of control.
		And I was just thinking, like, if it's not already manipulated, then that would be a way for them to suck up all the money, just any kind of wealth they can.
		Pretty much by cheating it, everything would be manipulated.
		I didn't know what your thoughts on that were.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a really good point and a really good question.
		First thing I think when you mention that is the stock market has been fraudulent for a long time.
		Anyone who's watched or read The Big Short knows that even after there were these defaults on these subprime mortgages, the market was not reflecting that because they were delaying the real-time expression of what was really happening in order to preserve their special interests.
		So We've always had a manipulated and fraudulent market to some extent, in my opinion.
		And I think you're right that we have a vulnerability for that with artificial intelligence.
		Basically, I think that with this artificial intelligence, it is going to dramatically expand whatever the input is.
		So if you are doing good, artificial intelligence will dramatically increase your ability to do that good.
		And, consequently, on the other side of that coin is if you're doing evil, artificial intelligence is going to dramatically increase your ability to do evil.
		And that's why I think that we should...
		Allow everyone to have access to this technology so that we can set it against itself.
		So if there's artificial intelligence that's manipulating the stock market then there should be artificial intelligence in place that can help protect against that.
		If there's artificial intelligence that's trying to hack into your computer systems and your bank accounts then you should have access to artificial intelligence that can defend against that.
		If there's artificial intelligence that is trying to disseminate disinformation and convince you of state propaganda We're good to go.
		When I was thinking about this the other day I was thinking about just technology in general and whether or not it's a good thing or a bad thing and throughout history whenever technology has advanced there have been those who have embraced it and there have been those who have resisted it and ultimately those who embrace it do better in the end.
		However The morality or the character of a culture or of a people is incredibly important as to whether or not the technology will produce good or evil.
		Let's just take the internet for example.
		There are some people who use the internet to start businesses, provide services, share the truth like we do here at Infowars to the best of our ability.
		And there are others who through a weakness of their own character...
		Use the internet to spend 16 hours a day playing video games instead of focusing on their family or instead of improving their career or instead of reading a book or instead of going to church or getting involved in their community.
		So those who have strong character, strong values and strong principles are able to use this technology that is the internet in order to do greater good than they would otherwise be able to do without it while those who are of a weaker character or a less...
		This strengthened constitution are really taken advantage of and weakened by it, right?
		They're wasting their life by watching Netflix all day or playing video games all day instead of doing what they otherwise may have done without the technology.
		So the same thing is true with artificial intelligence, in my opinion.
		We need to really focus on having strong character, strong American values again in our culture.
		Infowars, I don't think it's just an infowar in my opinion.
		I think it's also a culture war, bringing Americans back to Americanism.
		And if we are a people of strong character, of good moral values, to the best of our abilities, we're all going to fail, then this technology can be used for great good.
		But if we aren't sealed by God, as the last caller mentioned, and we fall into this trap of idol worship, Then this artificial intelligence could be the very demise of all humanity.
		So the most important thing you can do is make sure that you know your values, that you live your best according to them, and pray to God for help in that effort.
		Make sure you guys stick with us, folks.
		The Alex Jones Show is coming right up.
		I will be a guest for a couple of segments.
		I'm looking forward to seeing more of you.
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