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greg reese
The mind control media has been spotlighting recent reports on UFOs being spotted and even shot down out of the sky.
And many suspect it's laying the groundwork for the so-called fake alien invasion that has been reported on now for decades.
A false flag event wherein the public is tricked into believing that aliens from outer space are invading the Earth.
In his 1991 book, Behold a Pale Horse, William Cooper claimed that secret groups within the U.S. government have designed their own flying saucer technology and are planning to launch a staged alien invasion in order to create a one-world government.
bill cooper
What I discovered was amazing.
What I discovered, ladies and gentlemen, is that there has been a plan in existence Since about 1917 and probably before that to create an artificial extraterrestrial threat to this earth in order to create a one world totalitarian socialist government.
greg reese
Nazi scientist and former head of NASA, Werner von Braun, reportedly told his assistant, Carol Rosen, that a fake alien invasion will be the final gambit of an ongoing plan to create a one-world government.
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And we have to prevent the weaponization of space because there is a lie being told to everyone.
That the weaponization of space is now first being based upon the evil empire, the Russians.
There are many enemies, he said, against whom we're going to build this space-based weapon system.
The first of whom was the Russians, which was existing at that time.
Then there would be terrorists.
Then there would be third world countries.
Now we call them rogue nations or nations of concern.
Then there would be asteroids, and then he would repeat to me over and over, and the last card, the last card, the last card would be the extraterrestrial threat.
greg reese
The fake alien invasion is only possible if there are advanced technologies being hidden from the public capable of pulling it off.
And there is plenty of evidence supporting this, from the stolen and censored work of Nikola Tesla to that of John Hutchison and thousands more.
According to some sources, these technologies were discovered by back-engineering alien spacecraft.
But the word alien implies extraterrestrial, not from this Earth.
And that's the fake part, because humanity's historical record is replete with non-human species that ruled over mankind as gods.
This story is the most prolific story on Earth.
The Sumerian texts, officially the oldest written documents we have, describe a non-human species that created a unique species of human via genetic modification.
These non-humans then began mating with human women and created a new race of giants.
This story is prevalent throughout our entire historical record and is found in practically every religious scripture on earth.
Nearly every culture on this planet claims to have been created by a race of god-like reptilians, most often described as serpent gods or dragons.
David Icke has compiled scores of personal accounts describing an interdimensional reptilian-like species that hides in the shadows by shape-shifting and taking possession of a human's body.
William Bramley's book, Gods of Eden, provides a comprehensive history of a secret brotherhood that works as an intermediary for a reptilian-like species that has been manipulating mankind for millennia.
And in all these ancient accounts, we not only read about these godlike species, we read about their flying ships.
In the ancient Vedas, they are called Vimanas.
These ancient Vimanas were described in great detail a hundred years ago.
harrison smith
Very interesting stuff, folks. You can find and share this video.
The latest from Greg Reese, the non-human element and plans for a fake alien invasion.
They aren't aliens, they're demons.
Folks, we'll be back on the other side to talk about that and more.
unidentified
Don't go anywhere. It's Thursday, February 16th, year of our Lord, 2023.
And you're listening to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch it live right now at band.video.
harrison smith
All right, good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to The American Journal. I'm your host, Harrison Smith.
Very glad you're here today.
We... We really do have a big show for you today.
We'll be opening up the phone lines. Of course, as always, we will be joined in the third hour by David Pine.
He is an expert in nuclear warfare.
Just in time.
And of course, I believe the last time he was on with us was about a year ago, just before the invasion of Russia, where he laid out pretty much exactly what was going to happen, and we've just been living it since then.
So very excited to talk to him. Very excited to take your calls as well.
And I have a ton of videos, everything from the World Government Summit to...
Very interesting video from Ukraine that may expose more than the AP intended when they published it.
We'll show you that in the next segment.
Before we do that, let's get into it with your daily dispatch.
All right, here it is, folks, your daily dispatch for Thursday, the 16th of February, 2023.
Four people shot at Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso, Texas.
This is a mall directly next to the Walmart where a previous mass shooting had taken place.
Yes, folks, another day, another mass shooting in the United States.
Questions abound, of course, but none of them matter because the people in charge don't care.
They've decided who the bad guys are and what needs to be targeted by law, and evidence of the effectiveness of these laws is not exactly a major concern.
They're coming after assault rifles, even though those hardly even make a dent in the percentage of gun violence.
They're going after white Christian men, regardless of the fact that they're also an extreme minority in cases of mass shootings.
None of that matters because they're not actually trying to stop mass shootings.
They're trying to use mass shootings to get what they're going to get anyway, politically.
The incident happened around 5.10 p.m.
on Wednesday when gunfire erupted in or near the food court at the Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso near the U.S.-Mexico border.
The circumstances of the shooting were not immediately known.
A spokesperson for the El Paso Police Department confirmed that four people had been shot, including one person who died at the scene.
Two of the victims were taken to the university medical center in critical condition.
The mall was put on lockdown.
There were two suspects last time I checked.
One of them, at least, was in custody.
We have one person in custody.
El Paso Police Department spokesperson Sergeant Robert Gomez said at a news conference one more person might be involved as well, but he's not been detained.
He added no description of the outstanding suspect was available, but they knew they didn't have any active shooters at that time, and it was isolated to Cielo Visto Mall.
But, of course, the fact that there is absolutely no...
He said the shooting suspect was taken into custody soon after attack, but did not know the suspect's gender or age.
Or race, apparently, or anything of the sort.
Which, that makes me think it's probably had a little, maybe something to do with the cartels.
Maybe something to do with the rampant cartel violence that is increasingly making its way across our border.
And again, you know, we can get into it later, but I was thinking about it yesterday.
And, uh... Yeah, it seems to me like America is just like a troubled youth, you know, that occasionally just like lashes out in some horrific, violent activity.
And as soon as that happens, you know, all the authorities come around and the parents get called in and they get a lot of attention and they get told, you know, you can't be doing this.
You can't be acting out of this. It's unacceptable, but we're here for you.
And if you ever have trouble, you don't have to act out.
You know... We gotta know what's going on.
But they punish him and they, you know, wag their finger.
And then they send him home where, like, his mom's just, like, throwing dishes at the dad.
And the daughter's sister's just, like, strung out on heroin.
And there's just, like, drugs and paraphernalia everywhere.
And if he ever does actually try to talk about concerns that he has, they're just like, you think you have it bad?
You're the worst one of this bunch!
And they just, like, abuse him and, like, beat him.
And then he goes off and does something violent again.
They're like, what? Whatever could it be, right?
There's just, like, no support at all until the massive violent event.
And then there's, like, blame and, you know, occasional pretending to care about what's going on.
But the instant that the event fades to memory, it just goes back to abuse and neglect.
And you wonder why this keeps happening.
Because you're not addressing the root issue of the problem, which is the fact that our entire civilization is crumbling under the weight of fabricated leftist nonsense causes that make everything worse, infuriate everybody, like, you know, infuriates everybody at everybody else and divides infuriates everybody at everybody else and divides everybody.
And makes everybody feel hopeless and neglected and violent, like a troubled kids.
So, you know, this is what happens when you ignore the root causes and try to put a Band-Aid on a cancer diagnosis.
And that's what gun control is, of course, and that's exactly what they're doing.
We'll get more into it later. Meanwhile...
The WHO has convened an urgent meeting on a deadly Marburg virus outbreak.
If you remember, this was one of the various diseases we tagged as the next big thing in destroying the Earth.
WHO emergency meeting.
As of Monday, nine people have succumbed to the Marburg virus, and there are 16 other suspected cases.
The virus, which is considered to be a cousin of the Ebola virus, is highly virulent and causes hemorrhagic fever, along with many other symptoms, including fever, fatigue, and blood-stained vomit and diarrhea.
Good Lord. And of course, Marburg is, unlike COVID, actually extremely deadly with something like a 90% death rate for those infected.
The question is, what will the WHO do?
What will the WHO do?
Will they do what is the obvious appropriate measure, which is immediately, without hesitation, seal off in a hermetic fashion the entire area around this outbreak to, at the very least, stop its spread from there?
Or will they do what they did before, which is allow the virus to spread all over the entire world before accurately spreading?
I guess we'll just wait and see.
Just insane.
Meanwhile, the Ohio train derailment...
is getting more and more attention.
The rail firm has pulled out of a meeting with the residents, a public meeting that was meant to ease fears about a toxic chemical spill in an Ohio town, only heightened anger when the rail firm, at the heart of the disaster, failed to show up.
Representatives of the Norfolk Southern Railway Company, whose train carrying the chemicals derailed 13 days ago, causing a huge fire, cited security concerns when they pulled out.
They're like, have you seen the chemical?
No, the air is poison.
We're not going there.
No, I'm kidding. It did kind of make me wonder.
Remember last year when they passed the anti-lynching bill?
This was predicated on the rash, the uncontrolled trend of lynchings of black men by white people.
They're passing laws for something that literally hasn't happened in 100 years or so, but...
They passed it anyway. And then you see like a mob of angry citizens trying to get answers from a massive international corporation that has poisoned their entire town and the surrounding several...
100 miles. Is this why they passed that?
Is this why they passed that anti-lynching bill?
It wasn't about black people, was it?
It was because you're about to launch a destabilization campaign that's going to piss people off and you need the government to protect you from the consequences of your own action.
I don't know. Just a theory. Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal report says that you should stop eating to save money.
Stop eating to save money.
The Wall Street Journal published a report today that suggests Americans could combat economic strife by only eating two meals per day.
It's kind of like what preceded the French Revolution.
Instead of let them eat cake, it's let them starve.
It's like even worse.
It's worse than what it was.
But it's like the French Revolution mixed with the Irish famine where there could be plenty of food.
There's plenty of farmland.
There's plenty of people to work it.
There's plenty of food to go around.
But it's purposefully withheld from those that need it as a control mechanism by the most evil people in the world, the imperialist jackasses that are trying to destroy us.
Hey, speaking of... There is the World Government Summit happening right now.
We'll show you videos from that later in the show.
Stay with us, and we'll show you a very interesting video from the Ukraine war on the other side.
We're going to play a little iSpy.
We're going to play a little game. All right, welcome back, folks. Just crazy things happening right now.
We're going to talk about all of it.
The World Economic...
It's not the World Economic Forum, actually.
It's the World Government Summit in the United Arab Emirates is meeting right now and saying just everything.
They're just saying it. They're just telling you what they're doing.
We'll get into that in just a little bit.
Don't you worry. We're also going to follow up and continue our coverage on the Ohio chemical attack.
That is poisoned. God only knows how many people from now long, long into the future.
We'll get to that as well.
We'll talk about how all these things intertwine and play against each other to set the stage for total domination of humanity from the cellular level up.
And of course, several virus potential or actual or fabricated or manufactured viral outbreaks from the World Health Organization.
Now we probably should worry about just a little bit.
Also, I may have to save it for tomorrow, but clearly over the last couple days, the This overabundance of black-on-white crime, of just black people beating the crap out of white people, little children getting choked and slammed and smashed and, you know, forced under the threat of violence to pledge allegiance to Black Lives Matter.
It's going crazy, folks, but I really want to lay it out in a comprehensive way to really get to the bottom of the issue.
I may have to save that for tomorrow, but it's...
It's getting a little impossible to ignore.
But I want to start with something different. I want to start with the Ukraine war.
A video one day ago posted by the Associated Press.
It's called Ukrainian Soldiers Call for More Western Weapons.
It's clip number one for us. It's only a minute and 30 seconds long.
The description says, 14th February 2023, as Russia increases its attacks in Ukraine's south and east, soldiers defending the front lines say they urgently need more ammunition and planes to win the war.
That's what they're just desperately trying to do.
Yeah, they don't have enough weapons.
No, it's $200 billion.
Not nearly enough.
They're right on the cusp of winning while also, of course, continually suffering defeats at the hands of the Russians.
But none of that really matters.
I want to play a little game here.
We're going to play this video. It's a minute, 30 seconds.
Keep your eyes peeled. Look for what's out of place.
Look for something that's just not quite right in this video.
I don't know if you ever, you know, like the highlights magazines will have two pictures.
They'll say what's changed.
The old Drew Carey show used to do this, right?
They'd have one episode where everything was a little bit off.
You would try to keep track of all the different things that weren't normal anymore.
That's kind of like what we're doing. We're playing a little game here.
See if you can identify something that's just not quite right in this video.
Look at the details. Let's watch clip number one.
It says, Ukrainian soldiers, call for more Western weapons.
We have a drone shot.
Let's keep it full screen. We've got to give people a fair chance to see this stuff.
Okay. Now, you just saw it.
You just saw it. If you may have missed it, but that was it.
We'll keep the thing going because it pops up a couple more times.
I don't know if you notice what's not quite right.
As Russia ramps up its military attacks in Ryuken south and east, soldiers on the front lines say more ammunition and planes are needed to win the war.
Or just lose it in a more expensive fashion.
You see some shots, yeah.
All this valuable ammo.
It's going to such good use.
20th leave. They're aiming at us.
Keep your eyes peeled now.
What's not right here?
What's out of place on the eve of NATO Defense Minister?
Blah, blah, blah. Ammunition far faster than allies can provide it.
We're just using the ammunition faster than we're getting it.
This is your fault. Give us more.
Well, more NATO allies.
Something, something. Blah, blah. War, war.
unidentified
In order for us to win soon, we need fighter jets, rockets.
Sure you do. Sure you do, Kurt.
harrison smith
so the Ukrainian servicemen will not be killed, as is happening now.
A truck-mounted missile launcher.
And they don't want you to have assault rifles, right?
Did you notice it? Anybody see what it was?
Did any of the crew catch it?
You probably know because you saw the spoiler alert from before.
Okay. If you didn't notice, let's go back and play it again.
If you can scroll me to when they're walking towards the truck when they say, we have to leave.
Right after they say, you know, they're firing it as we have to leave.
Let's scroll back to that.
And let it roll, and we'll pause it.
See if you can't identify what seems to be a little bit out of place.
Okay, there. They're walking towards the truck.
Get ready. Get ready.
And pause.
Do you see what that patch is?
Can we zoom in?
Can we zoom? I'm really, really putting...
Oh, look at this. Wizards at the controls.
What is that? Is that an ISIS patch?
Is that a patch of the ISIS flag right there?
That's right, folks.
The AP has published a video showing Ukrainian soldiers with the ISIS flag as a patch on their arm.
Just in case you were wondering who's really coordinating all of this.
Am I suggesting that ISIS is somehow behind Ukraine?
No, of course not. The CIA is behind both the Ukrainian forces and ISIS. They are one in the same.
This is what the CIA does.
It travels around the world to destabilized countries and it funds and trains and arms radical violent terrorists.
That's what it does.
I didn't actually find this myself, so credit where it's due to Syrian girl.
Who posted this on Twitter. She says, Ukraine ran out of terrorist foreign fighters, had to reuse old stock.
And she identifies that this is, in fact, the ISIS flag on a patch on the Ukrainian soldier's arm.
And this is what's really happening here.
There's the flag.
Like, why is he wearing that? Is he literally a member of ISIS? Maybe he's just a fan of theirs.
Maybe he's just a big fan of theirs.
Do you think they didn't realize this?
Do you think the AP guy filming this didn't notice?
Or do you think they're letting this out on purpose?
As a little hint as to what's really going on.
Again, this is what the CIA does.
This is what it has been doing.
This is what the intelligence agencies do, right?
You say the CIA, what you're really referencing is the international intelligence community that consists of MI5 and Mossad and the CIA all working together, not for the interest of the countries that empower them and that they ostensibly work for, but rather for themselves and against them.
Everybody who would oppose their participation in the globalist grand plan to enslave the world.
So, again, we've known this for a while, right?
That ISIS didn't just crop up out of nowhere.
It cropped up right where the CIA had training bases in and around Syria.
And they're the one, and they false flag chemical attacks and attempt to You know, create military intervention by America in Syria.
They were the primary attack vector against Bashar al-Assad and against Lebanon, I remind you.
But Lebanon, the people of Lebanon were protected from ISIS by Hezbollah of all people.
unidentified
What? What?
harrison smith
So you've got CIA creating a terrorist group.
To fight another group that the CIA deems as a terrorist group.
And when they're done there, when that plan kind of fizzles out because Russia comes and steps in, and they shift the weapons and the personnel and the training to Ukraine, they just do it all again.
And you're paying for it.
unidentified
You're allowing it to happen. You're listening to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch it live right now at band.video.
harrison smith
All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm going to move on to some videos from the World Government Summit in just a second.
Before I do that, I actually want to play another video here, clip number two, as we are on the topic of the Russia-Ukraine war.
I mean, the... It's all pretty much coming clear at this point.
The Russians mean business.
They know what they're doing. And you see reports echoing what I've said this whole week and for a while actually, which is that Putin is ready for a long, drawn-out conflict because he knows that the longer it goes, the...
Less willing to participate, the Western countries will be because the people are getting fed up with it.
You had a major protest in France on the 13th of February where they were actually burning the NATO flag and demanding that France not get involved to an even greater degree in the conflict in Ukraine.
It was recently revealed by Seymour Hersh That it was in fact America that blew up the Nord Stream pipeline.
A terrorist attack from our own government.
A false flag without even bothering to falsify the flag.
They're just doing it and hoping that either A, nobody can actually investigate, or B, you can intimidate those who investigated into silence.
Also, of course, poisoning the entire ocean with natural gas and attacking our actual allies.
Begging the question, should Article 5 be invoked?
After all, this was critical infrastructure for NATO countries, and it was attacked.
Would that not spark Article 5 and...
Actually compel the rest of NATO to go to war with us.
I think it would if it was any other country, but this is America where the international rule of law is whatever the hell you want it to be.
It applies when you want it to and doesn't when you don't.
It's as simple as that. It's anarcho-tyranny, as we're seeing on the streets of America and the international stage.
You also have Putin at this point almost openly threatening Russia.
Western countries with nuclear disaster sending out fleets of nuclear-armed ships and submarines.
Just as a warning while simultaneously saying that if you continue to give weapons, including planes, to Ukraine, there's going to be dire consequences for all of you.
Ukraine continually loses despite the hundreds of billions of dollars we've poured in there.
The people running Ukraine are busy ousting each other from government and doing fake corruption investigations to depose their Rivals in the government while they spend millions of dollars on Swiss chateaus and Israeli compounds.
And also, of course, are out there thanking BlackRock and Goldman Sachs and other international banking combines for the investment that they'll soon be making to rebuild Ukraine, you know, once all the Ukrainian men are dead.
Because, of course, they're running out of Ukrainian men.
They're actually having to force 16- and 17-year-olds...
into vans to take them to the front lines and have them die in a pointless conflict that was started by their president.
As, of course, yesterday was admitted by the former Prime Minister of Italy, Berlusconi, who said this is all Zelensky's fault.
All he had to do was stop bombing innocent people in the Donbass, and none of this would have happened, as we've all known.
But of course, that wasn't the plan.
The plan wasn't to have peace or some sort of friendly relationship with your international neighbors.
It was to be a thorn in the side of Russia and essentially do the...
I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you.
I'm not touching you until Russia lashes out so you can claim that Russia is the aggressor and launch a full-scale world war against them.
That's why the alliances between Iran, Russia, and China are shoring up because they're not idiots and they can see exactly what's happening.
So all of this is sort of coming to a head at this point.
But how did it all start?
Well, AP journalist Matt Lee...
Actually did his job, a rare and surprising event, holding John Kirby's feet to the fire on NATO's encroachment onto Russia, which of course started this whole thing, in addition to the color revolution sponsored by George Soros,
coordinated by the CIA with militias, trained by deep state Actors, just like they did with ISIS, just like they did for Saddam before turning on him and declaring he's our enemy.
So this is just the cycle. They just manufacture conflict, create war, profit from it, allow it to collapse, and then we have to go to war with our own weapons once again in 15, 20 years from now.
It's A choice that we're making every single day, that these people remain in power.
But for now, let's go to this video.
AP journalist Matt Lee holds John Kirby's feet to the fire on NATO's encroachment of Russia.
unidentified
To look at this and say the reason that the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep is because NATO has expanded Rather than the Russians expanding?
In other words, NATO has moved closer to Russia rather than Russia moving closer to NATO. Is that not an accurate way to look at this?
john kirby
I think that's the way President Putin probably looks at it.
unidentified
You don't think that NATO has expanded eastward toward Russia?
NATO has expanded. And the expansion has been a good thing for...
So the reason that the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep is not the fault of the Russian army, not the...
It's not the Russian army that's done it.
It's NATO has moved closer to, move east.
john kirby
I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who was ordering, you know, upwards of 15 battalion tactical groups to within 10 kilometers of the border with Ukraine.
And I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who put little green men inside Ukraine to destabilize eastern states.
unidentified
Well, I'm pretty sure that Ukraine is not a member of NATO. Exactly what we did.
It's not changed, but I'm pretty sure the movement by Russia...
If NATO has moved east, the reason that the Russian army is closer or on NATO's doorstep is because NATO moved.
john kirby
NATO is not an anti-Russia alliance.
NATO is a security alliance.
unidentified
For 50 years, it was an anti-Soviet alliance.
So do you not understand how, or can you not even see how the Russians perceive it as a threat?
And the fact that it keeps getting closer to their border, while their troops, I mean, the places where their troops are, you say their troops are, and they may have been in Ukraine and Georgia, are not made up.
john kirby
I'm not going to pretend to know what goes in President Putin's mind or Russian military commanders.
unidentified
I mean, I barely got a history degree at the University of South Florida.
john kirby
What I can tell you is that NATO is a defensive alliance.
It remains a defensive alliance.
unidentified
Fair enough, but it has moved east.
Correct? I mean, that's just a fact.
It has expanded, absolutely. Right, exactly.
john kirby
But there's no reason for anybody to think the expansion is a hostile or threatening move.
unidentified
And we've been saying that throughout the last 15 years, Matt.
You're moving closer to Russia.
You're blaming the Russians for being close to NATO. No, no, no.
That's exactly what Hagel said.
john kirby
We're blaming the Russians for violating the territorial integrity of Ukraine and destabilizing the security situation inside Europe.
unidentified
Which is not a NATO member. Other countries feel threatened.
harrison smith
My god, folks.
They can't even come up with a good reason as to why they're lying.
Like... He's literally just like, well, look, I'm an idiot.
Look, I barely even got a degree.
Why are you asking me this?
Like, what?
What? It's like, so NATO's been moving closer to Russia, right?
Russia hasn't been moving closer to NATO. He's like, I know that's what Putin believes.
It's like, yeah, because that's real?
Because apparently Putin tells the truth, and you people are just...
Shameless liars, even when your lies are just laid out bare in front of you.
Like, they have nothing. They have no excuse.
They have absolutely no excuse for their actions.
And he says Russia, it's, you know, Russia, not NATO, sending little green men in to destabilize Ukraine as if 2014 didn't exist, as if that didn't happen, as if it isn't a well-known and acknowledged thing that we have CIA training operations in Ukraine to arm and train militias.
Just like we did with ISIS. To destabilize the country.
That we were behind the coup that ousted a duly elected president and installed one ourselves.
Like, do they really think you're this stupid?
And again, it's just, you know, it goes back to like the vaccine thing of just like...
Are they all in on it? And the answer is yes.
They have to all be in on it.
Because it's so obvious.
It's so in-your-face and absurd what they're trying to claim.
The claims that they're making or the things they're omitting.
Everybody in that room knows it.
Every editor of every newsroom knows exactly what's really going on.
They know exactly how this all started and where it's all going.
And that the Russians... I have not done anything that the Americans are claiming that they have in order to, you know, create this war.
So, they're all in on it.
Like, they have to all be in on it.
These people are murderous psychopaths.
Like, there is no word too strong, there is no measure too strong to oust these people from power.
It is the fate of the world we're dealing with, and they have their finger on the self-destruct button.
Music Keep your hand on your guns, ladies and gentlemen.
Do not let it out of your sight.
It's so obvious where all of these various threads are leading.
Where all of the manipulation is leading.
Where all of the world government...
Policies are leading.
They're destroying farmland.
They're destroying the farmers themselves economically.
They're attempting to replace the very natural order of the world with a technocratic imposition that they themselves control.
So very simple. And all of their policies, while doing absolutely nothing to fight the problems that they supposedly are designed to fight, do happen to all align in that they destroy anything that makes you able to defend yourself against them.
There's a reason that they want to target white guys with assault rifles, right?
And it's not because they're the ones doing the mass shootings.
It's because they're the ones that might actually resist the takeover when it enters its kinetic phase.
But, you know, they're having a coming out party.
And I'm going to try not to comment on this too much because I do want to go to all three of these videos in this segment today.
These are three videos that came out of the World Government Summit 2023 that they are having at this point.
But it's worth reminding you that this is simply the public face of what has been going on in the background for decades, if not centuries, in the world.
In other words, the very same interests that control the World Economic Forum and the World Government Summit, the world government itself, the body that convenes every couple of years or every couple of months at this point to set policy and then distribute it to their actuaries in the national governments for implementation, They're the same people that have been doing this for a long time.
They've just been doing it in the shadows because prior to the open and free internet, they were able to maintain complete secrecy about this.
I don't know if you remember this, but 10 years ago, if you talked about the Bilderberg Group or the World Economic Forum, they would have called you a conspiracy theorist and said there's no way that's happening.
What? World leaders gathering together in secret to discuss policy?
That's illegal. We would never do that.
And of course they were doing it and they still are.
So now they've decided that because they can't maintain total secrecy, the better tactic is to come out and manage the You know, exposure, manage the reaction to what they're proposing.
They've been planning this for a very long time.
They're simply implementing it now, and they're doing it in a way that they are getting everybody to come along with it.
I'll explain it a little bit more on the other side, but let's go to just some of what they're talking about.
Clip number nine here. This is Ian Brimmer, president and founder of the Eurasia Group at the World Government Summit 2023 in Dubai yesterday.
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Let's watch. We see that misalignment playing out, and all of them are challenging globalization.
They're all creating some of the crises that we see in our headlines around the world and in this region today.
Is that those crises create the seeds of a new order.
And that's all of this nationalism, all the protectionism we see around the world.
My country's been doing it.
Donald Trump said, America first!
Now, that is not meant to appeal to people outside the US. It's globalization adrift.
It's globalization constrained.
But it's also globalization continuing.
And I think that's really critical.
A few takeaways from that.
The EU will be politically stronger in a more challenging environment.
Economically and from a security perspective, you will see the EU with stronger energy policy, fiscal policy, health policy, defense policy, and tech policy than at any point since the EU was created.
Because of these crises, because of the geopolitical concerns, because of the pandemic, heck, because of Brexit, we see NATO stronger too.
harrison smith
Again, I don't think I have to elaborate on this too much.
They're actually just telling you this.
They're telling you that nationalism is an impediment to the implementation of their globalist policies.
And they're blaming the crises that we're experiencing on nationalism.
As if you're that stupid.
As if you don't have a brain and can't comprehend for yourself what's causing these crises.
I mean, you can just go down the list.
The energy crisis, partly as a consequence of the pandemic response, which was a globalized singular response dictated by an unelected international body, the WHO, the opposite of nationalism, but exacerbated and maximized by the war in Ukraine.
Also a globalist plan, a globalist scheme, a globalist endeavor that they've set out upon.
The violence and chaos across the board all has to do with globalism.
But they're also telling you they're blaming these crises on nationalism just without even trying to provide evidence for how nationalism could have possibly caused these.
It doesn't matter, right? So they cause the problems.
And then he literally said, these crises are creating the seeds of a new world order.
In his words, the crises that we're facing right now are the seeds for the new world order.
Now, he wants you to believe nationalism caused them, which is retarded.
And if you believe that, you are too.
This is globalist cause.
All of these are being caused by globalism.
All of these are being caused by globalist forces or by the literal implementation of globalism itself.
He blames Brexit.
Brexit never even happened.
Brexit was a vote that basically just got bureaucratized away into nothingness.
So what the hell did Brexit do?
When Trump was president, we didn't start any new wars.
There was no catastrophe.
There was no major collapse of the economy, quite the opposite, until, of course, the globalists from you know the peter dasik from eco health alliance from the uk and the scientists from uh the cia and the nih in america cooperating with the government with the chinese government in wuhan to create a virus to then release it around the world and coordinate the response with the world heck uh the world health organization to then manufacture a vaccine by pfizer that again was spread all over the world
What part of that was nationalistic again?
Or is all of this...
By definition, globalism.
I mean, how thick do you have to be?
Or how thick do these people think that you are?
That they think they can pull this over on you?
It's people the most murderous group of psychopaths the world has ever seen.
Let's go down to clip number 19.
World Government Summit panel says they need a shock to create the new world order transformation.
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Let's watch. How is this transition going to happen?
I mean, I totally agree that the world order, the way it is built today, doesn't make any sense.
That is, it's not in line with the economic powers like India, Brazil or Germany, you know, that they don't have a massive role in the international order.
But to me the big question is, so how are we going to go through this transformation?
It has to be, it cannot be gradual.
It has to be driven by a certain shock that will happen.
So now we will reconsider this entire transformation.
So if your question is that this period could be turbulent, could have violence, could have conflicts, we are already living it.
I think the last five or six years tell us that we are going through a rather turbulent phase.
We have lost a large part of humankind.
To the pandemic, because we were all selfish, we were not willing to share, we were not willing to use the global institutions to deliver responses to different parts of the world, we have lost people.
Now how much more bloodshed do we need to understand that the transition is upon us?
harrison smith
The transition is upon us.
We created the transition.
World Government Summit panel discusses the shock needed for the New World Order transformation.
To quote him exactly, quote, it cannot be gradual, it must be a shock.
Cannot be gradual, it must be a shock.
So what we're experiencing now with the helicopters falling out of the sky and the planes almost wrecking into each other on the tarmac and the...
Daily example of some massive explosion.
Did you know there was another fire at a chemical place?
I can't remember where it was this time, but it's just another one, right?
On top of the truck falling over yesterday, on top of the trains falling over the day before, on top of the massive nuclear-level explosion in Ohio.
These are the... This is the build-up.
This is destabilization.
This is where they create the panic and the fear that when the real shock comes, everybody's so out of their minds that they're able to be controlled in the exact same way that they did with COVID. This is all a plan.
It's all on purpose. These are psychopathic, anti-human genocidists that are telling you this, okay?
Let's go to clip number 11 to finish it out.
The man in charge himself, Klaus Schwab, addressing the 2023 World Government Summit in Dubai.
klaus schwab
Our life, in ten years from now, will be completely different, very much affected, and who masters those technologies in some way will be the master of the world.
harrison smith
The master of the world.
So just to solidify, here's why I wanted to play all three videos.
You've got, in one day at the World Government Summit...
You've got Klaus Schwab saying we are going to be the masters of the world by dominating the technologies that will emerge in the next 10 years.
You have them saying that a shock is necessary.
It can't be a gradual change.
It has to be a shock to bring about globalism.
That nationalism is standing in the way.
And that the crises that are being created right now are the seeds for the New World Order.
They're telling you exactly what they're doing.
They are announcing what they're doing.
If you let them do it, we really do deserve to be slaves under their yoke.
If they're telling you what they're doing and you can't stop them from doing it, well, that's why they justify their actions.
The world government is already in charge.
They're using their unquestionable and unelected power to bring about total destruction.
Now, we'll start with this.
But, like, they're telling us what they're going to do.
We can predict everything because it's obvious.
Because they're telling us what they're going to do.
So, it's not that difficult.
I wish more people would pay attention.
But here's what I said on Twitter yesterday.
The World Economic Forum, or the World Government Summit, is just the public-facing version of what has existed for decades.
It's their coming out party.
And I corrected it to centuries, because after all, it's been a while that these same interests have been at the helm.
I said the same interests have coordinated economic and geopolitical activities for a while but they kept their influence hidden because if people knew there would be hell to pay now people are docile enough that they can safely reveal their intentions and manage the reaction also the advent of the free internet meant that total secrecy was no longer a feasible policy so they cloaked their tyrannical schemes in pleasant phrases such as climate change or equity while simultaneously pumping out propaganda to manufacture consent and censoring their more vocal critics This isn't hard to understand.
This isn't some sort of occult conspiracy theory.
This is just what they're doing.
I'm just observing reality for what it is.
And also having some memory of recent history and some knowledge of the history before I was born.
Like, that's all it takes. And just the pattern recognition ability to project an obvious continuation into the future and looking at what that might look like.
These people are at war with us.
And it really is as simple as that.
And as much as I'm kind of frustrated at this point because, you know, on Sunday or whatever, with the UFOs and the Ohio train derailment, it's people like, are we being attacked?
Are we at war? It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, we are.
Yeah, we are at war right now.
We are being subjected to warfare on a chemical, psychological, physical level.
It's happening all around you.
You're just not fighting. You're just not fighting back.
You're just the villager being massacred by the helicopter floating above you, just, you know, pumping 50-millimeter shells into your hut.
Like, this is, yeah, you're under attack.
You should stand up for yourself.
But everybody recognized the lockstep document during COVID. It's a big thing, right?
Oh my God, it predicted COVID exactly.
Everybody references it.
Talk to anybody just minutely aware of what's going on in the world.
Nobody knows the lockstep document.
They all know it was made by the Rockefeller Foundation.
They all know it predicted not just the virus outbreak, exactly how and where it would originate, but also what the consequences would be.
Why is nobody talking about hack attack?
Why is nobody talking about the new situation that also falls directly in line with everything we're talking about?
I've talked about it like ten times.
I'm sure the audience is sick of it.
I'm sick of saying it, but nobody cares apparently.
Nobody else has read the rest of this document.
It's so frustrating. Like, you need to get this information.
You need to share this information.
You need to spread this information because nobody else is finding it, apparently.
Hack attack. An economically unstable and shock-prone world in which governments weaken, criminals thrive, and dangerous innovations emerge.
We've been over this over and over, but all of the earthquakes, all of the...
Migrant crises that are being created.
In 2015, it says, I mean...
It's all laid out here.
What they're gonna do, what they're planning.
This is the beginning of the global earthquake.
It will culminate in either the release of an actual 90% deadly virus like Marburg, or in a cyber attack that will shut down all the infrastructure, only to be rebuilt in a more controlled fashion.
All right, folks, welcome back.
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This is the Infowar.
We're quite literally at war with these people.
harrison smith
They're poisoning the water and the food supply.
They are consolidating their control over national governments.
They are eliminating dissidents, imprisoning peaceful protesters, opening the borders.
In Europe, it's because of the war in Syria that they started.
In America, it's the southern border and all of the states in South and Central America that the CIA has ruthlessly destabilized and is being run by the cartels that are in cooperation with the spy agencies and the non-governmental agencies that are coordinating with the UN to fund, instruct, and carry the migrants over the border and then instructing them on how to circumvent American laws.
I mean, it's so simple.
It's so obvious what's going on.
They're just doing it out in the open.
It's just, it's not being spoon-fed to the American people.
And so they have no interest in actually finding out any of this.
No interest in discovering what's actually going on.
Because if they're not spoon-fed, it just doesn't exist.
It's just everything's normal.
Everything's normal, I guess. Everything's fine.
It's just, you know, hey, maybe you just get shot going out to eat one day.
You know, maybe the guy that murders you gets let out because of equitable justice and goes on to murder somebody else the next day.
Do these things just happen? We just have to live with this?
We just have to accept this is a part of modern life?
Or can we actually...
Can we enforce the laws that are on the books?
Can we actually stick to the plan that was laid out for us by our ancestors, knowing exactly what was real and what was right, what was natural, what was good?
I mean, it's just completely absurd.
And I've got to find this clip from the Vietnam documentary.
Problem is I watched the whole damn documentary in one sitting.
It's like 15 episodes.
But I think it was 1969.
Because these people are talking about what happened in 1969.
Again, as if it was just like a wonderful...
It was a movement.
It was a popular movement.
We all just did this. There's one girl.
She's describing her all-female college in New York.
And she describes that in a single year...
Everything changed. In one year, like at the beginning of the year, it was like all the rules were strictly enforced.
It was like you had to be back in your dorm by 12 midnight.
No boys were even allowed on campus or in the building, certainly not at night.
There was very strict, you know, no smoking, no drinking.
And, you know, these laws, these rules, these strictures were in place because...
Well, you had families that are still very traditional and they're sending off their young daughter to a strange big city and you want to know that there are authorities there looking out for her and her best interest and keeping track of, you know, what's going on in the same way that you would as a caring parent.
And then in that one year, it was like, she's just like, it just all went away.
You could come and go whenever you wanted.
There were boys everywhere. It was parties all the time.
It was weed. It was booze.
It was sex and birth control.
And we used to have a uniform, but we didn't have a uniform anymore.
All of this happened in one year.
Yeah, because this was a plan.
This was societal engineering that took place.
This didn't just happen organically.
You don't have a system that's been in place for 100 years go away in a single year just out of some shared mental revelation that everybody just happens to have at the same time.
It was because of the media.
It was because of the propaganda.
It was because of the agitation of coordinated activists who just caused a nuisance and wouldn't shut up until they got their way.
And the authorities just didn't know how to deal with this influx and to deal with it.
And it's like that's what we're going through right now.
That's exactly what we're going through.
And it's like when you're going through it, you can't see that it's happening somehow or you think it's somehow natural or good or occurring because it's just like the force of the societal change has been held back for so long.
And finally, the dam has broken and the truth has come out.
It's like it couldn't be farther from the truth.
Five years ago, No such thing as transgender movement and putting girls in boys' bathrooms.
That never existed. Now, half of all girls in middle school say they're transgender.
You think that's natural? You think it was going to be that way and it was the restrictive fascist society that was holding it back?
No, it's that an unnatural...
Artificial, imposed ideology has been injected into our society, forcibly, and has forcibly changed things for a purpose in a program of social engineering.
It happened in 1969.
We're still dealing with the effects of that today.
It's happening again, and the ultimate effects will be the total abolishment of all things natural and good.
Like... It's not like marriage was made up in the 1950s, right?
It's literally as old as humanity itself.
It is the oldest institution you could possibly find, marriage.
Maybe changes form here or there.
The occasional one will have multiple wives for one husband or the other way around.
Like, it occasionally moves a little bit, but...
The idea of a man and a woman coming together for life to raise kids and the next generation, and then those kids doing that same thing and all being part of the same lineage and living together and passing on your knowledge and your traditions.
This is humanity.
That's what being a human is.
That's what they're destroying.
That's what they're abolishing forcibly with their propaganda, with their psychological campaigns, with their intimidation and physical campaigns of assault and terrorism against anybody that would stand up against them.
This is happening at a supranational coordinated level.
And the purpose of it is to strip you of all things natural and good that tie you to reality so they can dislocate you and do with you what they will.
They don't want you being able to throw seeds on the ground, grow food, eat the food, feed your food to your chickens, eat the chickens' eggs, slaughter the chickens, raise more chickens.
They aren't involved in that process because it's natural, because the earth is bountiful, and you can take advantage of that because God gave it to us.
They are at war with God.
They're at war with nature. They're doing everything they can to usurp him and place themselves in his place to be the subjects of your worship because that's what you have to do.
If they say you worship us or we turn your food cart off, you're going to worship these people because you want to eat.
You're going to worship them or die.
And once they've destroyed you spiritually, it won't even be that big of an issue for you.
I mean, I don't know how people don't get this.
They're just doing it.
They're telling you they're doing it.
They're not hiding it. The effects are evident in your personal life.
You're probably paying twice as much for food this year as you were two years ago.
I don't have to tell you this.
You should be able to see this for yourself.
I don't know how people don't get it.
I think it might just be too much for some people.
But why? Why is this too much?
Why is this too intense for some people to understand and recognize and fight?
Because you have to fight back? Yeah, you have to fight back.
I don't get it.
If you're underwater, you have to try to swim.
If you're being choked, you have to punch your assaulter in the face and breathe.
Like... Literally, these are just people being choked to death or like somebody's coming at them with a knife and they're like, if I have to fight them, I don't want to fight them.
I'll just die. It's just like, okay, all right.
I guess we'll just die. I guess we'll just die.
They're just like, well, but it's so hard to fight.
It's so hard to fight.
It's so easy to just close my eyes and drift off into darkness.
It's just like, I don't know.
And, you know, the big thing here, because it's like, Obviously, I'm, like, frantic right now because, like, it's all coming down.
But at the same time, it's because it's frustration in the fact that it's so easy to cast these people off.
It's so easy to identify and eliminate our enemies.
It's not hard at all.
And so it's frustrating that just nobody's doing it.
It's frustrating that it's just not being done.
It's not frustrating because it's impossible or it's hard or it's, you know, anything of the sort.
So... The fact that they are unleashing all of these things all at once.
The UFO crisis.
The China invasion.
Russia is about to take over all the world.
Nukes on the horizon.
We've got, you know, chemical explosions.
And, you know, there's a meteorite.
Like, there's a meteorite over Texas yesterday.
But the reporting on it wasn't like, oh, what?
A meteorite lit up the night sky.
It was like, you know, flashing alarms, like alert, explosion, sighted over, you know.
So everybody's like on edge.
Everybody's like looking around the corner of like, what's the next big disaster?
And that's the energy that they're going to captivate and utilize for themselves.
It's that like, oh my God, everything's coming down.
What do I do? I need an authority figure to tell me what to do.
I need somebody to protect me.
That's the opening that they're looking for.
So we don't need them. And you don't need to be panicked at all of this.
You need to be You should be certain in what's coming next.
You shouldn't be frightened by all these little tricks they're playing and all this little fear-mongering they're doing.
You should laugh at their fear-mongering and go right at the heart of the thing.
Grab the bull by its horns, take it to the ground, cut its throat, politically, metaphorically, or whatever.
I just want to survive, and I want my kid to live in a world where he's not a despised minority.
unidentified
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
harrison smith
Now, almost halfway through today's show...
I don't think I've mentioned InfoWars store once.
I don't know what to tell you folks.
Everything that we're laying out here, again, it's not new.
It's not unexpected.
Alex Jones at InfoWars has been talking about this for the last two decades.
Why do you think they targeted us, right?
Why do you think they've slated us for destruction?
It's not because we're wrong.
It's because we're right. And we've survived.
I mean, frankly, it's a miracle that we've been here this long.
And we're still ahead of the curve.
We're still ahead of what everybody else is reacting to.
I keep bringing it up, but it's just so shocking to me that people are like, are we under attack?
Are we under attack right now?
A train just exploded in Ohio.
Are we under attack? They're just like...
They're walking around the completely gutted remains of, like, Dresden after a firestorm bombing.
And there's just, like, nothing but the stone-crumbling facades of what was once a great city.
And they're like, is this... Is this normal?
Are we under attack?
Yes, you're under attack. Yes, you've been under attack.
Yes, you and your children and your mind, your psychology, your spirit, your body, your hormones, your fertility, your history.
It's all under attack.
It's all under concerted, unified, coordinated attack.
Please, for the love of God, wake up.
That's all it takes. All it takes is your awareness.
All it takes is your being awake to fend this off.
That's it. You wake up, you realize what they're doing, you reject it outright.
You put this knowledge into action through activism, through engagement, through getting elected to public office or holding your public office holders to account.
To avoiding, ignoring, or mocking the propaganda that they come out with.
To telling your friends and getting them on board against this movement.
Because they might be rolling all of this out.
They might have the facade or the appearance of total control.
They still have to contend with humanity.
If it was up to them, the World Economic Forum and the World Government Summit wouldn't be public things with YouTube videos where you can see what they're saying.
They would much prefer to be behind a veil of secrecy.
To be behind that Wizard of Oz curtain hiding who they really are.
That wasn't possible because people like Alex Jones battered that curtain down, set fire to it with a bullhorn and exposed these people for what they were.
So they had to respond to that.
They had to take strategic measures to continue their operation outside of the shield of secrecy.
So that's what they're doing now.
But they've had to do that because of our activism, because of our engagement, because we are battering this down with everything that we've got.
So they still have to contend with humanity.
They still don't have everybody.
And their grip is loosening.
They're losing grip on humanity as more and more people realize what they're doing and know they don't have their best interest in mind, these people at the top.
So they're accelerating because they're in a panic, because the awakening is happening.
And InfoWars has had a huge, if not primary role in this discovery by humanity.
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We're going to open up the phone lines now for the remainder of this hour.
We'll be joined by David Pine, the director at the National EMP Task Force.
As that will be the next stage, or it very well likely will be, an EMP, a cyber attack of some sort.
That's what hack attack is all about.
That's what the cyber pandemic rhetoric has been about the last couple of years.
That's what the big shock, they say, is necessary to deal with the crises that are being created by them.
So that's what's happening next. Whether it's an EMP or a cyber pandemic style attack, the collapse is likely around the corner.
And again, I don't say that to fear monger.
I say that to make you aware of what's coming, right?
If you're standing in the road and you don't know there's a car driving at you, it's like it's not fear mongering to go, jump out of the way!
There's a car coming, right?
Right? What they want you is to be in a state of fear where you're like, somebody save me.
What I'm trying to say is you have legs.
Get up and move. Get out of the way of the car.
Find out who's driving it.
We're going to go to some videos and some more stories about the Ohio...
Derailment soon. Did I give out the number?
1-877-789-2539.
1-877-789-2539.
Give us a call here at American Journal.
Taking your calls for the next several segments.
It'll be hundreds of seconds, trust me.
I wanted to read this story. I was looking for it yesterday because we were talking about some of the migrant...
Crimes being committed in Europe, which again is exploding right now.
Again, as a consequence of the open border policies that are a key aspect of globalism that themselves are being taken advantage of because of the wars that were started in Syria by the globalists.
So again, the globalists start a policy.
They create a solution that creates a whole bunch of other problems.
And again, I don't even like reading this, but...
I will because you do know what's going on and because, you know, while we talk about this happening at a global level, things sort of get lost in the mix, right?
One death is a tragedy, a thousand is a statistic.
Well, this is just one example of one of the victims of these policies who will never receive true justice.
This is back from 2014.
One girl was sexually exploited after a local authority outside Bristol set her up alone in a flat at the age of 16 in a deprived inner-city neighborhood, although she had been described as having the emotional development of a three-year-old.
Within hours of arriving, she was spotted by drug dealers who set up a base in her new home and forced her to work as a prostitute.
The abuse continued for months, even after she told care workers about what was happening.
The girl's 14-year-old sister was subsequently raped during a visit.
This is your daughter or your sister under a globalist regime.
The authorities themselves hand her over to drug dealers to prostitute and rape her despite the fact that she is mentally incapable and has the mentality of a three-year-old.
and then they cover up who did it because they have racial considerations to take into account.
unidentified
All right, welcome back, folks.
All right.
harrison smith
I was maybe gonna go to some videos, but it looks like we've got some very interesting calls.
And I want to go to some of these.
Some dichotomous calls as well.
Patriot in Texas wants to...
Say that American Journal is the best news on earth, but Kelly in Colorado disagrees wholeheartedly with everything I'm saying.
So let's start with Kelly. Kelly in Colorado, you disagree wholeheartedly with what I'm saying?
unidentified
Well, let's say what I mean. Harris, I'm a first-time caller, and I'm the first time to your show.
First of all, I love you.
You have the best show of the three, and I am a total Infowars supporter.
I've been supporting for 20 years.
What I'm trying to say is, dude, what do you want anybody else to do?
We've done everything.
We've gone to the school boards.
We've gone to the local government.
We went to the freaking Washington, and they arrested everybody, and they're still in jail.
The next thing happens, you know, we need a full-on civil war, but that'll never happen because there's nobody to organize it.
I mean, what can possibly happen?
I ran for—I was a Ron Paul delegate, and that didn't go through back in the day.
They— No, you're right.
harrison smith
We're between a rock and a hard place, but that's why our tactic is the info war, that...
You know, as much as we all know this is going on, I've said it a million times, go talk to a random person.
Like, next time you're in a shop and you're next to somebody, just go, have you ever heard of this guy Klaus Schwab?
They've never heard of him. They have no idea who he is.
They've never heard of the World Economic Forum.
So it's not a matter of having to come up with new things.
It's a matter of having a critical mass of humanity awake to what's going on because right now it's a numbers game and people just don't know what's going on or they don't care what's going on.
unidentified
Harrison, wait a minute.
What is the critical mass?
You can have every single person in this freaking country fully awake, and they don't care.
What's going to happen then?
They're going to keep doing what they're doing, and no matter what the critical mass is, everybody's going to go, well, we all know what they're doing.
Now what? Well, wait.
harrison smith
Hold on. You've mentioned taking over the school boards.
Has that not been effective and actually stopped a lot of the progress of the progressivism?
I mean, have we not had tangible effect when it comes to taking over school boards and getting rid of the pornography?
Has Florida not done an incredible job of expelling a lot of that and taking over Disney, if that's what it takes?
I mean, Florida is sort of a great example.
When you have a critical mass that gets people into power, we still have an electoral system.
Yes, it's screwed over.
Yes, it's manipulated.
But a lot of that is done before anybody ever gets to the ballot box through the control of information, like the Hunter Biden laptop, which is being exposed.
And we have more people in Congress now who are investigating that and on committees actually digging into it and issuing subpoenas.
So, I mean, there's not a solution that will happen and everything will be fixed tomorrow.
This is a gradual movement.
We are having an effect and the snowball is starting to roll down the hill, but you can't be satisfied until we have victory.
So as much as some of these things have been effective and we are seeing movement in them, we need to continue to get more people on our side, more people active, more people involved.
I mean, how do you think it got to this point?
It didn't get to this point overnight.
It got to this point through decades of clandestine subversion and infiltration into our systems.
We need to reverse that in an equally powerful way.
So, I mean, some of the things you pointed out, yes, January 6th was a trap, largely, and that's screwed up.
And we are still working very hard to try to expose that and try to get people, you know, into positions of power that they can investigate what really went on there.
And word is, and we'll see if it happens, but the word is that the committee is now, that's in place now and the weaponization of government is going to release all the FBI footage and that'll help to expose a lot of that.
I mean, a lot of these things have been effective, but they haven't solved the problem yet.
So... The things that you're mentioning, the school boards especially, this is evidence of how we can make a change, we can have a positive impact when people are aware and ignited.
Am I wrong?
unidentified
No, I agree.
I think it's going to take way more than a bottom-up.
It's going to take some top-down.
You better pray to God that...
I know you don't like the Q thing.
I'm saying Q's real, but it might not be good.
Trump is... I mean, if you know who Cash Patel is, you know all those guys, they're behind you, right?
Okay, but I'm not saying it's good.
You better pray to God that those guys are actually really doing something behind the scenes, because if they're not, if Trump's not really working with a bunch of dudes like Cash Patel and like he does with his, I can't even say their names right now, but there's this clandestine thing going on in the background.
And we better pray to God, because we're going to need that as well as the bottom-up.
It's going to take both sides, or it'll never happen.
harrison smith
I totally agree. Well, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
If you don't think it'll ever happen, then you're right.
If you take your eye off the ball, then you'll miss it.
I mean, that's just how it goes.
So I... Look at Trump's proposals.
I mean, even just with Trump is coming out with, in the last couple months, with, you know, talking about banning mutilation of children, even if it's under the guise of transgender confirmation care, going to war with the cartels where our military should actually be.
I mean, the U.S. military...
Is collapsing at this point.
I even have a story today from Infowars.
Pentagon admits to overdose epidemic media.
So even if we don't do anything, the American military is not even going to have the power to oppress us in the way that the powers that be would want us to if things just continue as they are.
Especially if we hold steadfast on guns and don't give an inch on gun control.
unidentified
China is right around the corner though.
harrison smith
Oh, China? China, yeah.
So the other thing is that We're already reaching a huge number of people like me, like you, just regular people.
We don't necessarily have—we don't pull the strings of power.
We don't have positions of authority.
What we need are the billionaires and the millionaires and the activists who have all of this money and have all of this power but have no concept of what's actually going on.
I've talked about this before. I was talking about, like, the boomer menace, right?
There's 60 and 80 at this point who are in like, you know, seats of authority that think that they can just do their business over here.
You know, they just do business and make money.
And then over here, maybe they'll do some activism.
They need to understand that their enemies are combining these things and they're using their power to progress their political agenda and that they need to also be doing that.
So it's almost like the critical mass we need to reach is in one part a wide swath of the population.
But to really have change, we need to get some of the people like Elon Musk.
I mean, look at what Elon Musk has been able to do with Twitter.
One dude with enough power and enough chutzpah and enough understanding of what's going on has exposed what's going on at Twitter, has exposed the corruption on the FBI, has given tens of thousands of people their Twitter accounts back and given once again free speech to this national town square.
I mean, that's what we need.
So, and a lot of these guys are just behind the times.
And they hate China, and they're very patriotic, but these are the type of people that will, that will, like...
They'll like work tooth and nail to bring a factory back to America and they'll celebrate.
They're like, we did it. We got a factory back in America.
And then they'll staff the whole thing by H-1B visas from India and Mexico.
And it's like, what are you doing? How do you not comprehend the totality of what we're up against?
It's not all economic.
Just because America has an economic...
Interest in this factory that you're bringing in.
It does nothing for the wider American populace.
And that's what people don't understand that are in positions of power.
So thank you very much for your call, Kelly.
I really thought we'd gotten a liberal.
Patty's the only liberal that calls in.
I really thought somebody had called in who just wanted to disagree with me and I could have just slammed him down.
But instead, me and Kelly are just like...
It's bad and we need to work harder.
No, it's even worse and we need to work even harder.
So it's like we agree.
Maybe we disagree on the level of hope that we have.
But thank you so much for your support and the call.
And look, again, I really do see this as a war.
I really do see myself, weirdly enough, as like a...
I don't know, colonel in this, right?
Alex Jones is the general and I'm like his aide to camp or whatever it is.
And, you know, the primary thing it takes to win a war is high morale.
That's it. That's the key to everything is high morale and knowing that you're not surrendering, you're not giving up, you're going to have victory.
It almost doesn't matter what the other force is.
Look at the Alamo, right?
5,000 people against 180.
Yeah, they may have lost the Battle of the Alamo, but they won the war.
Maybe that's our position. Maybe that's our job here.
sacrificed ourselves for the greater victory to come.
All right, folks, there still have so much to talk about, but we're going to go to your phone calls exclusively this segment.
There's some of the headlines that you want to look into.
You go to my sub stack, harrisonhillsmith.substack.com or go to offlimits.news to find a link.
Israeli security expert behind worldwide election manipulation efforts.
This is from the J-Post, Jerusalem Post.
Israeli security expert and founder of Dimomam International Tal Hanan, found to head a team working to manipulate global politics.
It's a pretty wild story.
It's called AIMS, the software for hire that can control 30,000 fake online profiles.
Pretty incredible stuff.
We have this story. Australia's drug regulator hid child vaccine deaths to, quote, maintain public confidence.
Very similar to the story we saw yesterday, the video that we showed yesterday where they were saying we didn't want to cover the migrant rape crisis because it proved the far right correct, right?
So they're willing to bury reality and let children suffer and die, let little girls be raped systematically by entire hordes of men, rather than admit that we know what we're talking about over here on the right wing.
WHO prepares for bird flu pandemic as U.S. produces new vaccines.
Macron has a new great replacement scheme, sending 40 migrants to a small French village of less than 400 people, even though the locals vehemently oppose it.
This is so-called democracy under the New World Order.
It's also audio of the former CNN anchor Chris Cuomo saying he was, quote, going to kill everybody, including himself, after being fired.
G, sell your soul to an evil organization to spread misery and then they turn on you?
I'm so shocked. I'm so shocked and surprised.
The evil organization didn't have your back?
What? You sold your soul to the devil and then he abused you?
What? I can't believe it, you idiot.
Total moron. And there's even more, and there's more videos as well for the paying subscribers to Off Limits News.
There's a good 20 videos in there today.
But in the meantime, let's go out to the phone calls.
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With that, we go to your phone calls. Let's go to Patriot in Texas.
Since I invoked your name earlier, even though I usually don't go to things that are just compliments.
But go ahead, Patriot from Texas.
You're on the air. How's it going, Harrison?
unidentified
Can you hear me okay? Yeah, I hear you fine.
All right. I just heard Kelly on the line, and I had a differing answer to his question than you did.
I thought you had probably the biggest beta answer to his question.
His question was...
What can we do? And you said, in a grocery store, we can talk to an old lady in line and tell them about Klaus Schwab.
harrison smith
No, no, no. I wasn't saying you should do that and that'll fix everything.
I was saying that you can't, like, you have to understand how few people actually understand this stuff.
And I was saying that as an example.
unidentified
Overall, that was your answer to his question.
But, you know, every time I tune into this show, I feel like I'm listening to the biggest beta performance.
Yeah. Out of all the right-wing podcasts.
Because all you do is complain about the other side and how much nonsense they're talking.
But that doesn't solve anything.
Okay. Every day it's whining, your voice, your image.
I think you've got to be more alpha when you're trying to combat these things at hand.
You live in Austin.
We're trying to change the world.
But my question to you is, What have you done to change your own backyard?
Last time I checked, Austin's the most liberal city in the U.S. What have you done to change your city?
And if you can't change your own town, how do you expect to change the whole world?
harrison smith
Okay, I made a commercial and got a city councilwoman elected who has been a thorn in the side of the liberals the entire time.
I did that. I also have two kids, and I actually own a home here, and I live next door to my family, and we're sort of building a compound.
I mean, what are you getting at here, Patriot?
I'm so confused.
I went to one call I thought was going to be opposing me, and it was pretty complimentary, and then I went to this one, and he's calling me a beta.
Tell you what. Here's my alpha move.
Let's hang up on Patriot and go to Tim in California.
Oh, it feels good to be an alpha.
That was fun. Tim in California.
You want to talk about a verboten secret city flyover by China.
tim in california
Go ahead. Yeah, we saw the last day before the shoot-down of the first balloon that right at sunset the residents of St.
Louis, Missouri were seeing it.
And then darkness fell.
And then at first light, It was seen over Charlotte, North Carolina.
And all you need to do is draw a line between those two, and you're going to see where it spent the night.
It spent the night over America's secret city, and that's Oak Ridge, Tennessee.
We know that back in the day it was where the Manhattan Project, it was also known as the Atomic City, and they basically put 60,000 people out of thin air there for multiple years, and nobody knew nothing about nothing.
And today it's the home of the United States Department of Energy's largest multidisciplinary laboratory, and they admit on their website that it's the Oak Ridge National Laboratory, so it's O-R-N-L.gov, There's more than 5,800 scientists there from more than 60 countries, and God only knows what they're really doing.
But a couple of things I picked up was that they, on May 30th of last year, they admitted we've, from scratch, created the number one largest supercomputer on the planet Earth, the Frontier supercomputer, and we broke exascale, or a quintillion, calculations per second.
And you lay a dollar bill down at a crime scene for scale.
This would be if each person on Earth completed one calculation per second, it would take more than four years to do what an exascale computer can do in one second.
So I'm guessing they might have some curiosity about that.
But also, they are the Fusion and Fission Energy and Science Directorate, the FFESD. And this is where they're leading the Transformational Challenge Reactor Program and the Material Plasma Exposure Experiment, a future world-leading capability that will produce the extreme plasma environment.
To test materials for use in fusion energy devices.
So there's untold numbers of secrets, and these clowns flew over in the cover of darkness, and I don't know if they could have absorbed info or hacked info or some of both.
unidentified
I don't know, but I know it was a waypoint and nobody's talking about it.
harrison smith
Yeah, I did not know that at all.
So I thank you for that call.
That was extremely informative.
Yeah, you just threw a bunch of information at us, gave us a bunch of rabbit trails to follow.
Yeah, that was a lot, Tim.
Thank you for that. I do want to get to another call here, but yeah, I got nothing to add to that.
You're exactly right. I will ask David Pine about that because I know he's been...
Really writing a lot about the geopolitical implications of the Chinese balloon flyover, and he has expertise in this matter.
So I'll make sure to ask him about Oak Ridge, Tennessee, and the balloon flyover.
Thanks for that call, Tim. Brilliant stuff.
You should call in more. Let's go to Brett in Pennsylvania.
You're sort of echoing what we've heard from callers today.
It takes more than awareness to get the action that we need.
It is the first start, though, Brett, but go ahead.
You're on the air. Hey, Harrison.
unidentified
How you doing? Good. Keep up the good work.
And that kind of segues into the point.
But people like myself, I've been awake since young childhood in the 90s, my family even earlier, so partly thanks to people like Alex.
I actually went to school thinking that everybody knew about Bill Gates and his vaccine.
And it was in first grade when I started mentioning that stuff that they started subsequently drugging me with amphetamines and SSRIs.
Oh, no. But I kind of thought of that while I was waiting in the call.
Forgive me, but to get to the point, being awake is great, but it actually takes conscious awareness and participation.
Because, again, over the decades, I've seen plenty of people be awake But they either, like, they have their off-grid properties and whatever, or they kind of just get so terrified they go into a cocoon and go, I don't want to know.
I don't want to know anymore.
I know it's bad. I know, but I just can't deal with it.
So it takes more than awareness.
It takes participation, active participation in some form or another.
You can be aware, and still, like, just curled up in a ball, rolling back and forth, just streaking in fear, you know?
harrison smith
Yeah, so, I mean, what do you think, what's the action that we need to take?
unidentified
I just think people just need to pay attention.
I mean, not you guys.
Not you guys, obviously.
Not myself.
But, like, so many people I know, most of the people I know know what's going on, but they don't want to know what's going on now.
I think they have to be paying attention to current events, what's actually happening, and actually inform others of what's going on to wake more people up.
harrison smith
I'll tell you what.
Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you so much for the call, Brett.
The vaccine's a great example. Once you're aware of the vaccine, you just don't get the vaccine.
The vaccine defeated, personally at least.
All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Third hour of American Journal has begun.
We'll be joined by David Pine momentarily for this first little short five-minute segment.
I wanted to show you a couple videos just to reinvigorate all of us.
You know, there's that classic quote...
We hear a lot on this show and elsewhere.
If the situation was hopeless, their propaganda would be unnecessary.
Another way of putting that, when it comes to info wars, if the info war was ineffective, their censorship would be pointless.
They wouldn't censor us. They wouldn't attack us.
They wouldn't demonize us if what we were doing wasn't an existential threat to what they're trying to pull off.
There's a reason that they...
Right articles about us every day that they're constantly watching us desperately trying to find something they can take out of context to portray us as something other than what we are There's a reason that the lawsuits and the attacks Financial or otherwise are coming down on us continuously.
It's because they know that we hold the secret to their destruction the awareness of their actions the Opposition to their actions And the knowledge that the American people, unified together, en masse, can overcome their manipulation with ease.
That's what they fear. That's what they hate.
That's why they try to destroy us.
And let's see how some of this is coming about.
Because again, we do find ourselves in a strange position where we don't want anything brand new.
We aren't communists.
We aren't coming up with something new.
Totally original that is untested and that we want to impose on unwilling people.
We just want to go back to a time when things made sense.
And we don't have to sell you on Americanism because history should sell you on Americanism.
The idea of America and the Republic in a law-abiding citizenry has proven to be the most successful, the most prosperous, the most free, the most open, the most joyful country the world has ever seen.
It's been destroyed over the last several decades, but we're not offering you anything new and we're not offering you anything extreme.
We aren't the ones calling for the blood of our enemies because they think differently than us because we can't convince them to become communists.
We want to destroy them. Like, that's the other side.
All we want It's for people to treat others as they like to be treated, to take on the ethos that created, founded, and empowered America throughout all of its history and has, in the last several decades, been forcibly removed from our culture.
And so this is already having effect.
We're going to go down to clip number 20.
This is a protest that was carried out by students in a high school who, again, they aren't asking for anything extreme.
They are simply asking...
For girls to go in the girls' bathroom and boys to go in the boys'.
unidentified
Let's watch. Nelford High School students staging a walkout Friday in response to the school board's bathroom restrictions that limit the number of students who can use the facilities to the number of stalls available.
Nobody asked for this.
Nobody but the few parents who complained to the school board asked for this.
The board voted on the measure on Monday after a proposal was brought forth that would change the district's bathroom policy, which allows students to use whichever bathroom aligns with their gender identity.
The proposal would require students to use the bathroom associated with their biological sex, male or female.
While students agreed they do not like the current bathroom restrictions...
We're all a high school, and the fact that you see this many people out here right now ready to kind of stand against the school board just kind of signifies that.
Some have different opinions about what should be done to address the larger issue.
As a female, I don't think that it's safe to have males in our bathroom.
This is creating just a complex system of inequality within our LGBTQ plus students.
Teachers, parents, and administrators tell News 9 their happy students were able to come together peacefully.
I'm so proud of our students.
I really am. This is what gets the attention needed to make a decision that's best for everybody.
And I've reached out to every board member and the ones who've responded say that they hear students' concerns and that this is an issue that will have to be brought up again.
The next board meeting is scheduled for February 20th.
harrison smith
You can make a change. You can organize a protest in your area.
You can inform people that believing in gender or public safety is not racist or hateful in any way.
It's a demand for basic humanity that I'm willing to give to anybody but I demand for myself.
It's as simple as that. That's all we're pushing.
We'll be back on the other side with David Pine, expert in geopolitical warfare.
unidentified
We'll be right back. Welcome back.
harrison smith
Ladies and gentlemen, third hour of American Journal has begun.
My guest this hour is David Pine.
He's the director at the National EMP Task Force.
He currently serves as the Utah director of that task force on national and homeland security and as the member of the Secure the Grid Coalition.
Mr. Pine previously served as National Security Policy Director for the United States Senator Mike Lee of Utah.
He served as United States Army officer and worked in David, is it davidpine.substack.com?
unidentified
Did I have that right? It's dpyne.substack.com.
harrison smith
D-P-Y-N-E. So dpine.substack.com.
You can go there to get all the latest.
And of course, I have several of those stories pulled up that I'm eager to get into with you.
Thanks so much for calling in today.
david pyne
Thanks for having me on the show.
harrison smith
Very, very glad to have you.
And I know you've written a lot about the balloons, and I want to get into that with you.
But what's on my mind right now is this conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
I think the last time you were on, if I'm not mistaken, was just before this conflict broke out.
You laid out exactly what was going to happen.
You said exactly how we could have avoided all of this.
Obviously, they didn't listen to you.
And here we are now. I guess that's my question.
Where are we now? And where are we headed?
david pyne
Yeah, it's been over 11 months.
Last time was March 4th that you had me on the show.
So that was just a week, week and a half after the invasion.
So a lot's happened, obviously, since then.
I think the main thing that your viewers need to understand is Putin badly under-resourced his invasion of Ukraine in the first eight months of the war.
And then he made a decision in late September, after Zelensky and Biden refused all of his peace offers from day two of the war, including a very reasonable one that began in early March, and actually had a tentative agreement that was torpedoed in late March by Biden and Boris Johnson.
That he decided to annex for Ukrainian oblasts.
And he decided to mobilize, to engage not in a partial mobilization of the Russian army, but a full mobilization, without limits.
And a lot of people didn't realize that.
It was widely reported at the time that it was about 300,000 troops, Russian troops, Russian reservists.
Now we're finding out it was at least 500,000, perhaps as high as 700,000.
And we have right now half a million Russian troops that are massed on the Ukrainian border, mostly in the Kursk vicinity, which is what I predicted, that they would make a move just west of Kharkiv with their main offensive to try to encircle Ukrainian forces in the southeast region.
Ukraine area that would give them control of not only Kharkiv oblast, but also all of the Donbas.
Of course, Western Donetsk oblast being the prime objective for that.
harrison smith
Yeah, we've heard some rumor of that.
We've covered it a little bit. I think some estimates were saying up to 700,000 troops waiting on the border, but at least half a million.
And of course, this comes right as Putin has announced he's giving a big speech.
And I guess Biden is giving a dueling speech on the same day.
Do you think the offensive rollout is going to correspond or coincide with that speech?
david pyne
Yeah, so I think it's possible that the offensive will not begin until after the speech.
But the significance of that date, on February 21st, Putin gave a speech on February 21st of 2022, in which he announced Independence—recognition of independence for the Donbass Republic, something he delayed doing for seven years.
He essentially said, you know, because the West was unwilling to pressure Ukraine to implement the Minsk II agreement, that he was going to proceed for a military solution.
And, of course, he ordered—in that speech, he ordered Russian troops to enter Ukraine, the Donbass Republic.
Independent republics, the Separatist republics.
And then, of course, three days later, Russian troops began what they referred to as their special military operation in Ukraine, invading not only southern and eastern Ukraine, but northern Ukraine as well.
harrison smith
And we've been seeing, I mean, I've been seeing sort of contradictory claims, but, you know, half the people are saying Trump, or keep calling him the wrong name, Putin, is sort of making slow but steady gains, and, you know, he's slowly encircling Bakhmut, and things are sort of going to plan.
The other half is saying, oh, Ukraine's on the verge of victory, Putin is panicking.
I mean, what's the truth here?
It seems to me like that slow and steady gain is what's actually happening.
Is that what Putin intends, or is this evidence that it's not going as smoothly as he would want?
david pyne
Yeah, so Russia's been fighting a war of attrition the last 11 and a half months of the war.
We're coming up on the 12-month mark or one-year mark on the 24th of this month.
But... As I said, he under-resourced the Russian military for most of the war.
They fought, outnumbered about three to one by Ukrainian forces for the first seven, eight months of the war.
Currently, the manpower issues have been resolved by this Russian full mobilization.
And once Putin unleashes this half-million-man army, which has not yet been deployed into Ukraine, the Russians will enjoy large-scale troop superiority, numerical superiority in military forces.
And that's going to—you know, Ukraine is really on the verge of collapse, or it will be, due to the fact that they have no more troops to mobilize.
The recent mobilization had a goal of 200,000 troops, but they had to—you know, given the fact that there were 8 million Ukrainians that have left the country, they were having to mobilize 16- and 17-year-olds and men in their 50s or above.
So they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
And reportedly, the Ukrainian political and military leaders believe that there is a serious risk that This massive Russian force will break through the Ukrainian lines and encircle Kyiv.
And if so, I think it would force Zelensky to capitulate or simply flee the country, and then there would have to be some kind of political settlement.
harrison smith
I mean, is that even a feasible outcome?
And I'm not disagreeing with what you said because I think you're right, but then I think of what the people who run America are thinking and how much we've invested in this and how we refuse to be cowed in the face of Russia.
I mean, it seems like once you get to that situation, they might ramp it up to an even more dangerous level.
I mean, what do you think happens if what you just laid out comes to pass and you have Russia really dominating over the immediate future?
david pyne
Well, that's an excellent question, and I've thought through that a lot.
I think Biden would have a few different options.
You know, there's been a no-fly zone over Western Ukraine that's been discussed.
There's another option.
There's the 101st Airborne.
We have one brigade in place just a few miles from the Ukrainian border in Romania.
And there's been discussion that they could, you know, enter Ukraine and occupy Odessa as kind of a blocking force.
But those are really—you know, those aren't going to accomplish anything.
And, obviously, the no-fly zone carries a very substantial risk of direct military conflict with Russia, which would be World War III, as Biden has said.
So I think those options are unlikely to materialize.
Yet another extreme option would be for the U.S. and NATO to conduct massive military airstrikes to try to blunt the Russian offensive.
I think the chances of that happening are pretty low.
Biden has been pretty clear he doesn't want to direct war with Russia.
He's trying to try to wage this proxy war on the cheap without suffering U.S. losses, military, let alone civilian, which he would be, you know, we'd be at high risk of suffering because, you know, the Russians would retaliate very strongly against this minimally, you know, massive cyber attack.
And then the last thought.
harrison smith
Well, hold that.
We'll get to the last option.
We'll pick that up on the other side.
We do have to take a commercial break here.
We'll be back with David Pine, director of the National EMP Task Force.
You can actually subscribe to him on Substack, dpine.substack.com, and Pine is spelled with a Y, so d-p-y-n-e.substack.com to get the latest from David Pine.
We'll be back on the other side with more answers.
We actually get answers about this, which is sort of a rare occurrence for us.
unidentified
I'm very excited. Welcome back to American Journal.
harrison smith
I'm your host, Harrison Smith. My guest is David Pine, director of the National EMP Task Force.
You can find their website at emptaskforce.us.
You can also find David's work at dpyne.substack.com.
And, of course, your articles are carried in things like nationalinterest.org, recent articles about the balloon flyovers and things like that.
Definitely want to get into it. That type of stuff with you here.
We have a lot to talk about, but let's pick up where we left off.
You were laying out sort of the final option beyond troops in Ukraine or a no-fly zone, which I agree that would be World War III. I couldn't see any other.
That would be really spiraling out of control.
What would be another option for the Biden administration?
david pyne
Well, there's actually two other options.
I forgot to mention one of them.
So the other main option would be kind of a cyber tit-for-tat for Ukraine.
We're already waging a cyberoffensive against Russia.
I think we have been admittedly by the Committee General of U.S. Cyber Command since April.
And then we've also been engaging in kinetic sabotage operations, including, of course, the Nord Stream attack, which was, as Seymour Hersh revealed, was in fact carried out at the behest of the United States, actually most likely by U.S. military special operations forces.
And we're also attacking Russian targets inside Russia.
So, I mean, we could ramp those up.
But ultimately, none of these options are going to make a difference in terms of saving Ukraine from military defeat and collapse.
There's only one option that could save Ukraine, and that's the diplomatic option.
It's one that I've been advocating since way back in March, actually, since before the war began.
I wrote articles about how we needed to use diplomacy to get the Russians to withdraw as quickly as possible.
And, you know, of course, they were offering to do that, to withdraw from all of Ukrainian territory except for the Donbas, up until September.
Since then, they've had a ceasefire offer on the table In which they would agree to a ceasefire along the current lines of control, essentially in exchange for NATO and Ukrainian recognition of permanent Russian control of the territory they occupy in the next Ukrainian oblasts.
So I think the problem is, you know, the more time elapses and the better off the The Russian military offensive is going, the greater the chance that Putin's minimum peace terms will go up.
I suspect that, you know, if the Russians surround, for example, the Ukrainian forces in southeast Ukraine, we'll see their demands go up from—instead of 20 percent of Ukraine, including Crimea, perhaps to 33 percent as kind of their minimum terms.
harrison smith
Wow. And of course, we did have you on shortly after the war began, but we also had you on, I believe, in the end of January 2022, where you laid out this exact same thing.
You said, you know, they're going to go to war unless they come to a diplomatic solution.
And of course, I believe you were on while Anthony Blinken was actually either en route or in Ukraine to ostensibly try to come to some diplomatic solution.
But of course they didn't follow your suggestion and here we are a year later with everything looking worse than you could imagine for Ukraine.
And of course there was also, you know, been revealed now that there were peace terms on the table that they say even Zelensky was ready to agree with until the West people from the UK and America sort of stopped him from doing that.
I mean, do you think... Do you think that's true, that Zelensky wanted to take the peace offering but was stopped by the West?
Do you have any knowledge of what happened almost a year ago at this point?
david pyne
I do, yes. So there was, as I mentioned, the Russians offered peace terms on the 25th of February, the day after they invaded.
Then, the following day, Zelenskyy accepted immediate diplomatic peace negotiations.
And then those negotiations continued through the end of March, and some would say perhaps early April.
It culminated in a March 31 meeting between Ukrainian and Russian negotiators in Istanbul, in which they reportedly reached a tentative diplomatic agreement.
Which would essentially call for the Russian withdrawal of all their troops from Ukraine, except for the Donbas region, as well as Ukrainian permanent neutrality outside of NATO. So that was a pretty good deal for Ukraine, because, you know, Russian troops would have to withdraw from six different Ukrainian oblasts they'd occupied since the invasion.
And then the Russians proceeded to withdraw as a sign of peace in a pre-announced withdrawal from three Ukrainian oblasts in the north, including, of course, Kyiv and Sumy and one other oblast.
At that point, you know, we had a 180 in terms of the Biden administration.
They went from—they actually supported peace negotiations, reportedly, according to former—or rather retired Lieutenant General Keith Killock, right up until mid-March.
And then as they came to believe that the Ukrainians were somehow responsible for getting the Russians to make this unilateral military withdrawal from northern Ukraine, it really emboldened U.S. leaders.
And then we had these crazy announcements by Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin You know, we were going to fight—help the Ukrainians fight to the last Ukrainian, you know, to the bitter end, and we could, you know—until they defeated Russia and pushed back Russian forces out of Ukraine's internationally recognized territory.
But in terms of Zelenskyy, I think that Zelensky was sincerely interested in peace.
But then he too, once the Russians withdrew from their attempted encirclement of Kyiv in particular, I think it did embolden him.
And I think his natural inclination was to keep fighting the war.
He was enjoying his Churchillian celebrity status.
He was getting on the front page with his wife of Vogue magazine.
He was like this international media superstar.
And, you know, there's kind of an ego trip, I think, that goes with that, in which he's really put his own self-interest above the interests of his own country, and I think that's really despicable.
harrison smith
I completely agree. I think that may be the first time I've heard the word Churchillian in association with Zielinski correctly.
His celebrity is Churchillian.
The lavish praise is of the level of Churchill.
His actions, not so much.
Wow, yeah. Incredible stuff.
And, you know, this also makes me worry that, you know, you said earlier, it doesn't seem like Biden wants to do things like send troops in because that would be World War III. But if you look in the history, I mean...
I don't want to give them that wiggle room because it seems like so far they've done everything they can to exacerbate this issue and make the problem worse.
To me, it seems like they're going to keep doing that in the future.
I really don't see why they wouldn't unless, of course, the population really gets involved and really demands that we withdraw from this.
And I've heard that that...
It might be part of Putin's plan.
Putin is trying to sort of draw this out because he knows the longer it goes on, the less popular it will be amongst the population.
Do you think there's any truth to that?
30 seconds left in the segment. No, I don't.
david pyne
I think Putin has been trying to end the war as quickly as possible since, really, February and March.
You know, this is a special military operation.
He's wanted to, you know, get a political settlement and, you know, limited gains.
But his prime goal the entire time has been neutrality for Ukraine outside of NATO. That's what the whole—that's the whole reason that this invasion occurred and had a written military guarantee that Ukraine never joined NATO. It never would have happened.
harrison smith
All right. Well, very interesting.
Maybe I'm wrong about that.
We'll get into the nuclear saber rattling from Russia on the other side.
David Pine is an expert.
Welcome back, folks. This is Harrison Smith.
My guest is David Pine, and I really can't express how much I appreciate, David, you coming on and really giving us what I consider to be like a full strategic breakdown of exactly what's happening in Ukraine from...
The beginning to where we are now, to where we might head in the future.
Already, this interview we've done so far has had more information than you'd find in a month's worth of reporting from mainstream media.
So, just thank you for coming on.
If you want to find more of what Mr.
Pine does, go to dpynedpine.substack.com.
You can find all of his writings.
It's published in various outlets.
Just fantastic stuff.
Really incredible. And of course, you can go to emptaskforce.us.
That's the website of the National EMP Task Force, of which David Pine is director.
And let's go to the nuclear aspect of this.
Here's the headline from today on The Independent.
Russia deploys ships armed with tactical nuclear weapons for the first time in 30 years, says Norway.
I mean, that is a major development, is it not?
david pyne
Well, I think this article is a little bit misleading because, to my knowledge, the Russians have never not had nuclear warheads deployed on their ships.
You may recall back in 1991, then-President George H.W. Bush gave the order that U.S. warships all be disarmed of their nuclear weapons, with the exception, of course, of our nuclear missile submarines, the Ohio-class subs with our SLBMs, our strategic warheads.
But in the case of Russia and China, I mean, to my knowledge, all of their ships from the size of frigates on up, including attack submarines, have all been deployed with nuclear weapons.
So I don't know if that's quite accurate.
But the point—the article is a good one, because it kind of ramps home the point that Russia is absolutely willing to escalate to the nuclear level, if necessary, to win the war in Ukraine.
I think Putin's made a cold calculation that that won't be necessary.
But certainly that—he has that option in his back pocket.
I mean, there's—I wrote an article back in April, which was called Putin's Trump card to win the war in Ukraine, and it was essentially—it essentially said he could use one or more nuclear demonstration attacks I think we're good to go.
That would essentially force the government to relocate the capital or else simply surrender conditionally.
So I think that's still an option.
Certainly, if Biden were to respond militarily, if you were to do a no-fly zone over central and western Ukraine, of course, That could provoke—most likely, I don't think nuclear is really the main threat.
I think EMP is certainly the most devastating weapon they could use against us.
But more likely, it would start with a cyberattack, a massive cyberattack in the U.S., which would be really devastating and would likely cause our government to collapse.
And that would likely—prior to that being done, most likely, Russia would take out our satellites, all of our satellites that were Both military and civilian that are helping Ukrainian military forces.
harrison smith
Yeah, pretty horrifying.
Of course, that would be perfectly in line with what we see signaling out of some of the international groups.
They all seem to be waiting for a major cyber attack to take place.
They're essentially saying it's just around the corner.
How they know that or where they think it's coming from, they won't really say, but that certainly falls in line with what they're predicting.
I do want to Return to that in a second.
But just again, some of these headlines just from today.
Of course, the Independent says they've, you know, releasing these or, you know, issuing these ships.
And maybe it's the first time in the Baltic Sea they've been come out.
But whatever the intricacies there are, there's these other headlines from the Hill.
U.S. intercepts four Russian airplanes near Alaska.
The Mirror reports Vladimir Putin deploys supersonic nuclear jet bombers over the sea just north of U.K., So, I mean, you talk about saber rattling.
It's practically deafening at this point.
Do you think the authorities in the West are taking this seriously?
It seems to me like they sort of laugh off the idea that Vladimir Putin would use nuclear weapons.
That, to me, doesn't seem like the wisest thing to do.
david pyne
Yeah, that's probably what's most disturbing.
During the Cuban Missile Crisis, John F. Kennedy was our president, and he really handled that really masterfully in a way that Biden should have copied, really, in that even though we enjoyed nuclear supremacy over the Soviet Union at the time,
With at least five to nine times as many nuclear warheads as they do, he assessed that if there was a nuclear—a full-scale nuclear exchange, up to 100 million Americans could have died.
And so what he did is he decided to negotiate a diplomatic solution and get the missiles withdrawn from Cuba.
And he did so—he actually gave up more than he got back from Russia.
He actually did withdraw all of our nuclear missiles, both from Italy and from Turkey.
And then he also essentially repudiated the Monroe Doctrine and said we would never invade Cuba and liberate it from communist control.
But that may have—I don't think it would have saved 100 million lives, perhaps maybe 50 million.
But regardless, it saved the country from a nuclear holocaust.
I think the Biden administration has really become dead end to the nuclear threats.
I assessed, I think it was back in November, that Russia had already made 40 nuclear threats up at that time.
It's probably well over 50 at this point.
And so I think it's almost as if the more that Russia threatens, no matter how credible their threats, the more Biden essentially brushes them off.
The Biden administration really is very anti-nuke.
They aren't even willing to put our nuclear forces on high alert.
When the Russians put their forces on high alert, every Cold War president would have matched their alert status level to get them to back down.
But Biden, he's left us at DEFCON 5 in terms of U.S. strategic forces, essentially totally Vulnerable to a nuclear surprise attack.
harrison smith
So it's very disturbing. And if I'm not mistaken, JFK was opposed by a lot of his military apparatus during that maneuver.
I mean, they sort of thought what JFK was doing was a sign of weakness.
And so it sort of shows you the importance of having a civilian oversight person that can make these decisions that turned out in the long run to be the right one.
unidentified
Do I have that right? Yeah, you're absolutely correct.
david pyne
You know, some of our joint The Joint Chiefs of Staff actually recommended bombing strikes on those nuclear missiles, perhaps even the use of nuclear weapons to take them out, tactical nukes.
And, I mean, that might have worked, but it very well could have sparked World War III and a full nuclear exchange.
So, I mean, we had nuclear—again, superiority at the time, very pronounced superiority.
So I really think if we had to fight a nuclear war against Russia, we would have won.
That situation is completely reversed now.
Instead of having five times more nukes than Russia, Russia has nearly four and a half times as many nukes as we do.
So if we had to fight a nuclear war today, they would win.
And they would win not only because they have nuclear superiority along with China, which has been engaging in massive nuclear buildup, Which is due to be completed next year, in which they'll have about 2.7 times as many nicks as we do, but also because they have a massive national missile defense system that consists of about 10,000 to 12,000 SAM ABMs, which, even if only they had a 10 percent intercept rate, could still take out at least 1,000 of our reentry vehicles.
harrison smith
Wow. Wow.
And of course, you know, it also begs the question, who really wins at the end of a full-out nuclear exchange?
I mean, you know, who loses the less, I guess, is the better option.
So, you know, thank God we avoided that in the 60s.
It seems like it was much more tense and much more, you know, imminent back then.
And yet we seem actually, you know, legitimately more close to that today.
We'll be back on the other side of this commercial break with David Pine.
We're going to finish up our final segment with him.
We are going to talk about the balloon since I know you've done a lot of expert research into that.
And I want to get your input and read on that situation.
And, of course, what an EMP would look like since that probably would, I agree, be the first deployment of a nuclear weapon.
It wouldn't be to destroy a city.
It would be to knock out an entire country of power.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
We'll be right back.
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Again, he is the director of the National EMP Task Force.
And I want to talk about EMPs specifically here.
You brought them up before.
In your understanding, that would probably be the first deployment, if there was going to be deployment of a nuclear weapon.
The nuclear weapons themselves are actually used to spark an EMP. Is that right that you think, you know, that's sort of the first in the list of worries we have, that would be the top one?
david pyne
Absolutely, yeah. So, in terms of the greatest threats that could destroy, you know, kill the most Americans, EMP is at the top of the list, Super EMP. Super EMP, of course, being a nuclear weapon that's specially enhanced to maximize its EMP effects.
As, you know, the Russians developed Super EMP technology in the 1990s and shared it with North Korea and, of course, China.
And as few as one of these weapons exploded high above the center of the United States could really, you know, take out all of our electronics—you know, water, food distribution systems, transportation systems, internet communications— It really just blasts us back into the pre-electronic age in many senses.
You know, there'd be some limited things that would work.
You know, cell phones would still work, but, you know, there'd be no Internet and no cell phone service.
So, you know, small electronics might still work, cars that are, you know, 1980 or before.
But ultimately, you know, we might be back in the horse and buggy age.
That's something I'm not looking forward to.
harrison smith
No, me neither. But, you know, it's better be safe than sorry, right?
And you better prepare now because if it does happen, it's too late to prepare at that point.
And, you know, God forbid it actually gets to that point, but it is a possibility.
So why not be prepared with, you know, whatever you need?
And by what I mean, you know, get with your friends and family now and go, hey, if something ever happens, here's where we're going to meet.
Here's at what time we're going to meet.
Just bare bones, basic stuff that, you know, I and my family sort of have in plans because, again, God forbid, but who knows.
Every time I turn my phone on and it has trouble connecting the Internet, I think this is it.
Something's happened.
Maybe I'm paranoid, but maybe true one day.
Now, moving over a little bit, because, again, I just want to thank you for giving us this really full strategic review of what's going on in Ukraine and, That's not the only thing that you've been focusing on.
You also have written several articles about the UFO phenomenon that we're seeing, the balloons or whatever they are being shot down over American airspace.
There's an article on nationalinterest.org from the 7th of February.
It says Biden's failure to shoot down balloon over U.S. was a major win for China.
What's your reading on this whole situation?
david pyne
Well, I think, I mean, the balloon, the military balloon that was the size of a Goodyear blimp, you know, 200 feet in size, with a massive payload of at least 2,000 pounds, it had multiple purposes.
One of the purposes was strategic signaling to the Biden administration that they better not keep their pledge of defending Taiwan militarily, because we know that a Chinese attack and blockade of On and against Taiwan is imminent.
It could happen as early as this spring, more likely later in the fall of this year or perhaps early next year.
But certainly by the end of the Biden administration, there's a huge window of vulnerability that the Chinese are really anxious and excited to take advantage of to finally conquer what they view as the last legitimate counter to communist rule over China.
But the balloon actually was dismissed by the Biden administration as not a real threat.
I mean, it flew over all of our most sensitive nuclear military sites, including our nuclear missile base, Malmstrom Air Force Base, yeah, Malmstrom in Montana.
It also overflew the U.S., We have a STRATCOM command, which controls all of our nuclear missiles.
If that were to be wiped out, we have an alternate command base at Cheyenne Mountain.
So those two bases are absolutely critical in our ability to deter a nuclear attack, but also to respond to a nuclear first strike.
And then also Whitman Air Force Base in Missouri, which is our stealth nuclear bomber base.
All 21 of our B-2 nuclear bombers are based there.
So really, you know, they overflue our most strategic sites.
And what it looked like is they were—this was kind of a, you know, kind of a signals intercept and— And also other intelligence reconnaissance for a Chinese nuclear first strike.
So I think they're keeping—like Russia, they're keeping their options open.
If they feel they need to escalate to the nuclear level, if the U.S. dares to defend Taiwan, I think they're willing to do that.
I do think there's kind of an escalation ladder.
And the escalation ladder, I think they would pretty much go through the runs.
Cyber and space warfare attacks would be first on their list, and then perhaps either tactical nuclear weapons or EMP weapons.
But, you know, in an EMP attack scenario, it's very likely that it would involve at least a decapitation strike, which would take out D.C. and perhaps, you know, try to take out our nuclear C-3 capabilities to prevent any presidential launch order or, you know, National try to take out our nuclear C-3 capabilities to prevent any presidential launch order or, you know, National Command
And it probably also would take out our nuclear submarine bases because, you know, we have 10 to 12 nuclear, let's see, 10, yeah, 10 nuclear submarines, which are sitting ducks in port at any given time.
And, you know, they're not fully manned, so they're not capable of launching their missiles against Russia or China from port.
We really only have, in our entire fleet, we only have four nuclear missile submarines that could, you know, have nuclear capabilities.
And that's two in the Pacific and two in the Atlantic And the Russians have recently deployed a Belgorod nuclear missile submarine that has six Poseidon underwater Wow.
harrison smith
Wow. Sort of a bleak picture you're paying there, David.
I mean, it doesn't sound like we're hyper-prepared for this.
And of course, as you point out, it was also just sort of, it was like they did it to let us know they were doing it.
I mean, it's almost like they could have done it in secret, but almost by sitting a balloon of this size at this altitude, it's almost like they wanted us to know they were doing this.
And actually, I had a caller earlier who wanted me to point out that overnight it trans it transisted.
And where if you draw a line from where it disappeared in the evening to where it reappeared in the morning, right in the middle of that was Oak Ridge, Tennessee, which is where the Manhattan Project was based, known as Atomic City or the Secret City, which I assume is must still have some sort of infrastructure in place.
since the town was literally built from the ground up to house that secret project.
So just yet another site that it likely overpassed.
Troubling stuff. I mean, is it really as bleak as all that?
And is there anything we can do here to get back on top?
david pyne
Well, there is. And ultimately, our last line of defense is, it's almost too late to rebuild our nuclear forces or deploy missile defenses or even harden the grid against the EMP attack.
Right now, I mean, the biggest need for the American people is to rally their senators and members of Congress and any presidential candidates they might be supporting for peace with Russia in Ukraine and then, of course, with China over Taiwan.
And, you know, we have—the good news is that help is on the way.
President Trump is very much committed to peace with Russia in particular.
He's offered to serve as a special envoy to Lead peace negotiations with Russia to accomplish a ceasefire in Ukraine that would really de-escalate the Russian nuclear threat and cyber and EMP threat as well.
And then Governor Ron DeSantis, a lot of people don't realize, he's been a little silent on the issue.
But in a questionnaire which he published, I think, just last year, he was asked whether he supported military aid to Ukraine.
He said, absolutely not. He said, Ukraine's not a national interest to the U.S., We have no business getting involved in the Russo-Ukrainian War.
So that's very encouraging.
That's not going to happen until early 2025.
We have this massive window of vulnerability before then.
harrison smith
Incredible. And, of course, you look back in history and you look at things of devastation like World War I, you think, couldn't they have stopped it sometime before it got to that point?
Well, now's the time. We have that option still available.
We need to take it because we know what comes next, and it's nothing good.
David Pine, D-P-Y-N-E.substack.com.
Thank you so much for being on with us, sir.
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